Widen the Trail Wrist

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Craig
When using the right wrist to "cast" the club, do you still do the clockwise wrist?
April 26, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Yep, all movement is clockwise for a rightie
April 26, 2024
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dave
Chuck Wonderful series. I bought a book 25 years ago (published in 1994) - Natural Golf the Hit written by Peter Croker and Jeffery Johnson. Gave it a try and occasionally would go back and take a look. After viewing your GOAT series it resonated with the Hit premise. Recommend you try to get a copy (hard to find). You would very much enjoy comparing your GOAT theories with their approach. I pulled the book off the shelf and have committed to the GOAT swing concept. It works. Thank you Dave
April 21, 2024
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Will
Chuck, I remember David Duval talking about this back in the day…and by this, I think he’s referring to the same concept as what you’re teaching in the Goat Code…have you seen this video? https://youtu.be/Uync0tNe-28?si=4wG_zx3-aSZU28DM. He describes the release more like Mike Austin…but the casting from the top looks like it lines up pretty well with what you’re teaching bro!
April 17, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
I have seen David talk about something similar before. He is a member at Castle Pines where I used to teach and it was fun watching him hit balls, but his pattern is a bit unique in many ways. I like it, but what I see in Tiger and Jack is significantly less body rotation as the new video (still uploading, should be up in about an hour) talks about. David's motion is complex. He's super collapsed at the top, rotates his body a ton and if he allowed the face to rotate he'd hook it off the planet. Instead, I've watched him a million balls that only work left to right on the range and on the course. Perfectly fine, but limiting. Tiger's pattern is much more neutral allowing for far greater control over the ball rather than being fixed to a single shot shape - not that I mind that.
April 17, 2024
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Will
Yeah, I can agree with that. Just interesting that he also feels the “cast” if you will, from the top. Appreciate the reply!
April 17, 2024
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MIGUEL
Hi Chuck, I joined rotaryswing.com in 2007. Took me 6 months to learn how to rotate correctly and pulling instead of pushing was key. (18 to 4 hci). Yesterday I watched the Goat Code video series and decided to give it a try today. I hit the ball crispier, longer and straighter in one range session ( Also played 6 holes really well) but I needed to feel I was pulling from GDP into the release. GREAT results. I COULD NOT release the club with the right wrist move ( pull hooked all shots due to an active right wrist throw). Any Idea on what I could be doing wrong? Thank you in advance!!
April 9, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Miguel, most likely a shut face in the backswing or rotating your shoulders too much in the downswing.
April 10, 2024
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Jeff
I began by practicing this on video while hitting an impact bag so I could see my impact position. What a difference being solely focused on this widen/cast/throw move makes. The body just magically turns out of the way and my impact position is almost perfect. Rory talks about moving hard from the top into the GDP (split hand drill is his fav). This widening concept really chelped me feel what Rory was talking about and helps explain how he gets so much power from a relatively small frame. I played last night and while there were a few bad shots, I was way longer off the tee than normal. Well done Chuck
March 11, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Awesome! Nothing wrong with being way longer off the tee!
March 11, 2024
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James
Great stuff. When synced up just right, I hit my best shots. A little clarification though : I feel throwing the club from the top to be a slightly different feel than the “throw the golf ball” out in front of you. Are they different techniques or feels? Do they accomplish the same thing? Thanks.
February 29, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
The same thing, just more specific here with the wrists after my study of the GOATs. I find that trying to "throw" leads to too much trail arm activation and leads to elbow pain when adding speed. Here, the wrist is doing the work and the arm/elbow are far less involved which is how the greats swung the club.
March 1, 2024
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Kade
I have a question for you regarding the trail wrist and the latest release "the two things you must do with your hands...". You mention in one of the GOAT Code videos to take away with the left and widen with the right from the top. I understand the left is just a guide and the right is the feel, BUT, in the latest video there is a lot of "hands" (plural) mentioned to widen. I've had really great success with left/right, but would I get more speed and better contact / connection if I added in a little lead wrist also? As an example 80/20 right vs left (making that up)? Or should I stick with what's working? Don't know if this is too much to feel and then bow the wrist on the way down at the same time. Thank you again!
February 21, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
HI Kade, both hands are working to widen the angle and accelerate the club for sure, one just is in a more powerful position than the other, but you definitely use both.
February 22, 2024
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Kade
Thank you Chuck! Just want you to know this feel gets better and better and harder to make mistakes... When you do have a mishit, it's also very easy to diagnose what you did wrong, i.e. too much body rotation to start, not enough glide to the lead side etc. Using just the right hand and wrist added speed, better swing path and flight. I just tried a few incorporating some lead wrist and hand with the trail and the contact was twice as solid and "different" in a good way. The contact felt more solid / stable and the hiss of the ball off the face is intoxicating! What I like about this is you are giving us the simple tools to be our own swing coach, so that if a shot goes bad, you know exactly what feel you missed and you can rehearse and not repeat it on the next shot. There is no "mid-round downward spiral". Again, can't thank you enough!
February 22, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
You nailed it Kade, that's always been my goal - to teach you how to teach yourself! I'm working on some new members videos to cover impact and the downswing for the Refining the GOAT Code section that will cover these nuances in more detail, but as you've seen, it's not rocket science, just need the right info and you can compress the ball just like any pro out there.
February 22, 2024
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Michael
Chuck, I would recommend furthering your studies; by watching "Austinology" you can buy it at hititlonger.com
February 19, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
I'm not very familiar with Mike's stuff, mostly because I didn't care for the complexity introduced by his huge hip turn and inside takeaway. I'm much more interested in how to make the swing as simple as possible.
February 21, 2024
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Michael
Chuck, you are already teaching the basic Austin teachings. I just thought you might be interested in his philosophy since you have a technical mind. Mike was all about the step and throw with the right hand. The content you started sending last November attracted you to me because of the right hand throw. I hope it is OK I am using the Austin pivot with the throw?
February 21, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Sure Michael, million ways to skin the cat. A throw absolutely works. Using more just the hands works. I'm simply headed down the simplest pathway I can possibly find because for most golfers, the swing is an enigma and I'm trying to make it simple for everyone to be able to truly properly strike the ball. The fewer movements, the closer this is to reality for most golfers.
February 21, 2024
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Michael
Thank you, Chuck for answering my questions. I know your busy guy, I love going through each phase and they have sharpened my skills. Thanks again for making my membership affordable, money has been tight these last few years since COVID. Thanks again, Michael
February 22, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
You're very welcome Michael! Now go play some great golf this summer - that's all the thanks I need!
February 22, 2024
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Earl
How do we shape the ball (draws and fades)?
February 10, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Earl! Try the search function and type in fade or draw.
February 10, 2024
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Tassos
Hi Chuck - This is an extremely interesting concept. I tried it in my garage swinging a club without a ball and it feels amazing. I am generating tremendous speed while feeling that I am doing nothing. It is the first time that I can swing a club without having 100 swing thoughts. I can't wait to try it next time I go to the range and see the results. If it works, it will be amazing. Is the concept (and the motions) exactly the same when you use a driver or other woods vs an iron?
February 5, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Yes, same with every club in the bag
February 5, 2024
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Tausif
Hi Chuck. Thank you for yet another wonderful way of looking at the golf swing and probably the best one yet. I just need you to spell it out once for me for clarification. From the top, as I let gravity increase the angle in the wrists and let it fall past the balance point, should I eventually add to that with active trail wrist for more speed? Or should it always be passive like the initial feels. Sorry if this sounds silly even after you've explained it so well.
February 3, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
No, you will definitely speed it up with the trail wrist, the "fall" is just to get a feel for the widening without much force so you can learn what it feels like
February 4, 2024
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Ken
Hey there Chuck, Great stuff as always. Question: With this method of swinging the club, do you make a complete backswing (before transitioning to the lead leg) then throw? Or, do you start the transition to the lead leg early ( say just past the take away) in the backswing then when your arms get to the top start throwing? Or does it even matter? Hope this makes sense.
February 3, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Ken, check out the 4 pressure shifts video. The downswing always starts before the backswing is finished.
February 3, 2024
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Jeff
What a great video. I'm just practicing inside but this flows seems to make turning the club head easier on follow through.
February 2, 2024
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Joel
hi Chuck, congratulation for youre swing concept i just try a couple swing thinking wrist action first to widening angle and it s feel great speed and so simple. Do you try to feel the same way for 1/2 and 3/4 swing, shorter swing? Thanks best regards!
February 2, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Joel! Yes take a look at the video i just posted on YouTube with max homa and he’s hitting short shots with the same casting motion
February 2, 2024
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Rich
Hey Chuck. As always, love your stuff and I hope I'll be able to the correct feel to implement. I did have a question. You talk about working to get the club back in front of your body. I'm a little confused as to what that means. It would seem that even if you come over the top, which we don't want to do, the club gets in front of your body, or doesn't it. So, I guess I'm just not understanding what you're trying to explain with this. Hope you can help.
February 2, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Often over the top starts with some initial body rotation that directs the hands out toward the ball. This prevents the arms and club from getting back in front of the body. By the body staying shut to start down the hands get a head start to start working the club back in front of the body like it was at address.
February 2, 2024
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Rich
I think I get it. So would it be that the club gets in front relative to my chest and shoulders if I let my body just follow along? Club gets in front, shoulders initially are closed and start to follow along and end up square at impact, hips just naturally open more and quicker? Not sure I'm explaining it right.
February 2, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Yes I think we are saying the same thing.
February 2, 2024
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Rich
Yes. Just finished watching the Body Movement video. Should have watched that before asking the question. Makes perfect sense now. And, thanks for all the hard work you put into this. Nobody does it better.
February 2, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks! Ya these videos all need to be watched together for you to have the complete picture
February 2, 2024
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Robert
This is slightly shocking, as it sounds as if it contradicts everything you have been saying for years. I remember you have frequently said you do NOTHING with the upper half of the body while doing the squat to square, etc. I wonder if another way of looking at these new ideas are that you are simply pausing at the top of the swing and ALLOWING the club to start to release the tension in the wrist caused by the wrist cock?
February 2, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
No one has ever swung the club like Tiger Woods - until now. To learn how to swing like him, it would require me to do something different than what I and everyone else has been doing. As for the pause, none of the GOATs I studied had anything resembling a pause in their swings.
February 2, 2024
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Robert
Well, it may not be a pause as such, but I see a smoothness in the transition which many amateurs do not have, and this causes hitting from the top and coming out and across. And your idea of losing the lag earlier is not something I see in the swings of Ben Hogan, Annika Sorenstam, Jimmy Demaret, Sam Snead, Ernie Els, Sergio Garcia, Fred Couples, Rory Mcilroy, etc. I do see it in some modern players, but I don't think it is universal. Maybe a factor is the strength and fitness of modern professionals, which means that, unlike amateurs, they can use their superior body speed and flexibility to power the ball with less hand action, which gives them more consistency (I remember you saying the small muscles of the hands and arms are twitchy and unreliable). Having said that, Tiger was one of the first to get fit, but he's had 4 back operations, I believe! I'm interested too in your advocacy of the interlocking grip. There's not much talk of this, but many modern pros use it. If anything I would have thought this grip lessens the action of the trail hand, and allows more lag?
February 3, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
That's the problem with just looking at video. You see an illusion. You have to either see 3D capture or video from multiple angles to understand what's really happening. Looking at the swing just face on and down the line can be wildly misleading. In Hogan's case, like Sergio, they both shallow the club with a bit of lead arm internal rotation to start down. This creates the look of increasing lag when in fact the opposite is true and 3D capture shows this clearly. Ernie Els HUCKS the club from the top with a huge cast. 3D capture of hundreds of tour pros proves this undoubtedly. From what I've seen, only a tiny handful of pros actually downcock although many look like they do. Take a look at some of the trail arm vids that AMG has done with all their tour data https://youtu.be/4wNXv-ple4I?si=GuR0eqmBo0GCC6lv As for Tiger's back surgery, surely you realize that was all due to Foley, no? Even Tiger has said this privately many times and it was obvious it was going to happen as I predicted on youtube in December 2010.
February 3, 2024
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James
Chuck, after viewing your 5 videos, I tried "throwing the club"on the course this past Wednesday. I have been fighting the tension in my hands and arms for years but your clear and concise explanation of the wrist position at the top of the swing was a true eye opener to gaining true speed. My arms and hands haven't felt that loose and fast ever!. That small correction has totally reduced my arm tension and allowed me to swing freely with accuracy and consistency. I have been one of your disciples for over 4 years. Thank you for all the work you have done to continue to make this evolving golf learning process such a joy in clear, easy to understand language. I look forward to completing my reps and continuing to lower my scores to well below my 79 age.
February 1, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
You’re welcome!
February 2, 2024
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Christopher
Hi Chuck, I’ve been watching your new GOAT Theory and plan on trying to have my teenage daughter try it this weekend. I also have been watching a lot of fitting videos on Youtube recently as I’m going to have my girls fitted for new clubs. I saw this one video where the lady was telling the fitter about a round she played with Jon Rahm and she explains the tip he gave her about throwing the club and keeping it in front just as you explain in the new series. Check this video around mins 6:00 to 7:00 to see what I’m talking about. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4K4W7wjQY. Thanks for all you have offered me as a dad to help my girls become great golfer since 2021. ???? Chris
February 1, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Ha! Wild! I have always thought of Rahm as a thrower for sure. Hard to produce that much speed with such a short swing without an aggressive throw.
February 2, 2024
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John
This really does work. It’s strange but when you focus on the action of the trail hand and that balance point of the club, the body just moves the way it’s supposed to without any thought at all.
January 31, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
The irony in golf is beyond the absurd! Stop trying to move ur body and ur body moves the right way!
January 31, 2024
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Jeremiah
This is so strange. Over the last 6 months I’ve also been obsessed with the hands. As you’ve also mentioned: I’ve heard Pete Cowen, Sean Foley, Tiger, etc., all obsessing and talking about hands. After watching A LOT of footage (which you and Craig beat into my head lol) of my own swing, I’ve had way too much lag myself. I’ve been a RST guy for about 2yrs, and this is by far the most “EUREKA” project I’ve watched you do dude. Thank you for organizing this, and making it a complete, coherent concept. My coach saw my PW go 155yds with a RANGE BALL l and he couldn’t believe it. (neither could I tbh) Wasn’t trying super hard, not a long-drive jerky swing style; just an effortless, smooth and quick clubhead speed that compresses the cat piss out of every ball. Feels like a damn super-power. And I’d say you’re 100% right on with your point about needing the Dead drill, clamshell, necktie and everything else you’ve done for this to make sense. Just really bizarre I’ve been studying this and then BOOM, you have a 5-video series explaining this exact thing. Thank you again sir, this is the Rosetta Stone of golf.
January 30, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Ya, this is 30+ years boiled into 60 minutes! Definitely a eureka moment for me too! The speed you get with this is truly addicting and as you noted, it's so easy to compress the ball because so much timing has been taking out of the release, it's very easy to hit it solid. "Feels like a damn super-power" - couldn't have said it better myself! Now that you've got that level of speed, start flighting that puppy. 115 yard pw 70' high, that's where the money is made...
January 30, 2024
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Jeremiah
Duly noted, that’s my next goal. Make some dough Thank you again sir!
January 30, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Chuck, What a superb 5 video serie to understand feel vs. real. It gave me so much info, not only for myself but also for my students. Here are a few questions that came to me while watching, probably more to come when working with this: 1. Are all golfers, in the same amount, able to learn by feel or does it remain dependent on what a golfers "natural' way of learning is? 2. This question is related to this second video where both hands work together. Would you agree with this next thought I got: if at the moment of starting the "throwing" of the club by only using the wrists, you throw the club just a little more in the direction of the right shoulder that the swingpath would be a little more inside out and when you throw more in direction of the target line the path would be more square. If this is so would that also be a way to produce different ball flights? Thanks for helping, your brilliant! Marcel
January 30, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Thank you Marcel! for #1, there are different "learning styles", at least that's what the "books" will tell you. To me, everyone needs a combination of all things. You need an intellectual understanding. You need to be able to visualize the solution in your mind. And you need to be able to feel it in your body. One avenue is not enough in my experience for learning a movement. In math, sure. But the golf swing requires you to eventually translate everything into feel and that's exactly what the GOATs had going for them - they learned it all by feel first. Today, we try to use technology to short cut the learning process and it can help, but if you don't translate it to feel, it's useless. Technology will tell you what the problem is, but it doesn't tell you how to feel the solution. #2 You can experiment with directing the throw. I did this as well but it felt pretty unnatural. If I want to shape a shot I focus more on the feeling of the club face not the direction of the force I'm applying.
January 30, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks for your answers Chuck, it helps me to develope as an instructor! I need to keep learning even at age 73 Marcel
January 30, 2024
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David
Pure Gold! Your ability to translate to simply concepts is Einstein like. Can't thank you enough!!! Keep it coming!!!!
January 29, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Oh man you have no idea how much that means! Thank you! This project damn near drove me nuts!
January 29, 2024
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Kenneth
This is absolute dynamite information which has made my swing feel effortless. Thank you !
January 29, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Thank god! I have been working so hard on this I was pretty sure I was losing my mind!
January 29, 2024
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Kenneth
Not one bit Chuck. I am a recent member who has had life time troubles of hooks and slices and everything in-between. Following you has changed everything and this is so powerful so I really do thank you
January 29, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
You’re very welcome. Your appreciation means a lot.
January 29, 2024

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