DEAD Drill Step 3 - The Post-Up

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The Post Up move is where all the magic happens in the golf downswing. If you've never released the club properly, you're likely not posting up properly.


The final core movement of the dead drill is the post-up move. And this is where all the magic happens. If you've done everything correct in the backswing and transition, the up move is so simple and so subtle. You'll wonder how you did it wrong all these years. So as we start going back, we've done our squat. We've done our backswing. We're squatting the square. We know we're at least 50, 50, or more on the lead side. You can go up to about 65 or even 70% during the squat to square, move in the transition and whatever you have left. If you've won 50%, you now need to finish and get 90% on to that lead side for the post up move. That's why some golfers like to focus on making sure that during the transition, they get a little bit more on the lead side.

There is no magic formula for this. The key is that at some point before, in fact, you need to have at least 80 to 90, the percent of your weight back on that lead side, on the left foot at impact, before we get to impact, that's critical. So right shoulder back transition, and I'm, as I'm transitioning, I'm going to keep shifting weight over to the lead side, getting my left hip into neutral joint alignment. As you remember, if you just draw a straight line down from your hip socket, it should go straight to the center of your knee, straight through the center of your ankle. You should never move past neutral joint alignment. If you did, you're pushing way too hard off the right leg, and it's going to really hurt your back and your hip. So remember you can, the way that you use your right leg and the transition is counter steering, counter torque here, not just driving laterally, that's going to hurt your hip and back.

So I'm transitioning. Now notice that my shoulder left shoulder is still lower than my right. My head still is right where it started. And as I keep shifting my hips to the left, getting that left hip in a neutral. Now, all I need to do is push that foot into the ground to help open up my hips while using my obliques to help pull my hips open. And I'll show you this from several different angles so that you can see what it looks like. And again, the biggest mistake is going to be getting shoulders turned through the hitting area. Your shoulders get turned during the down swing by your hips and core and legs. So as you're starting back, remember, keep your shoulders pointed at the top or behind the back behind you. Shifting over to the left, keep shifting as you straighten that leg.

It's very important that you get that leg straight. You're not snapping it straight or hyperextending. It imagine that it's the same amount of straightness that you would have standing here talking to somebody it's not locked out and you're not trying to snap it there. You're just gradually driving force into that ground to straighten it in that neutral joint alignment position. Your key checkpoint here apart from making sure that that leg is straight. You can't have it. That address. You won't get a powerful release, but once it's straight in your hips in neutral joint alignment and your hips are about 30 to 40 degrees, open up to 45 degrees open. You want to make sure that your shoulders are still dead square to the target. Your chest should never ever be open while you're doing this drill. That means you moved them and that's going to cause all kinds of issues in your swing.

So remember your shoulders are getting moved by your hips. Now you can see that my shoulders, because I don't have a club in my hands. My shoulders are pretty close to level. You don't need this deep shoulder tilt. That's also going to cause all kinds of issues in your swing, plane, and path, and possibly injure your back. So make sure as you start down, your left shoulder stays lower than your right, just because you're not moving it. If your left shoulder starts doing stuff like this, or your chest ends up open to the target, you moved them. That's as simple as it gets. Don't move your shoulders, move your lower body. Post-up left hip and neutral shoulder square, right? Heel down. That's important if you're pushing too hard off the right leg, your right foot is going to come up in the air. Again, you're going to change all the angles in your swing.

So now let's look at it from down the line. As I turned back, my chest is pointing at you. And now as I squat to square left shoulder lower than the right, I'm going to now keep shifting to the left, straighten that leg. As I pushed my hip up and back, because remember, you're always trying to move your body in the opposite direction. The club's going. So the club during the downswing is going down because that's where the ball is and out cause the balls out away from you, which means your hips should be moving up and back. And that's what you're doing with your legs and your core to shift and move your hips out of the way. Notice the right heel is still down, but it will tend to roll slightly to the inside. And the outside of my shoe will lift up, but my heel will still be on the ground left shoulder lower than the right, because I'm not moving my shoulders at all.

My legs are doing all the work. My core is doing all the work and that brings me back to a square position where my shoulders and feet are parallel with the target line. The up move is really, really simple and it may, it's made way easier. If you do everything in the back, swing hit all your checkpoints in the back, swing and transition. Then the post-it move is just shifting a little bit further to the left and posting up straightening that leg to open up the hip. You do that. Then once we add the arms and club in, you're going to have more power and more consistency than you ever dreamed because the dead drill makes everything that's simple.

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Vinil
I couldn't tell clearly from the video. Does the left shoulder end up higher than the right shoulder once the postup move is complete?
August 12, 2024
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Chuck
It does
August 12, 2024
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Michael
Do these movements in the DEAD Drill apply only to a lead side dominant player, and they do not apply to a trail side dominant player. And does the AXIOM also apply to only the lead side dominant player, or is it also used by the trail side dominant player. Thanks.
June 19, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Michael, the body movements are much the same or very similar for both, it's more in how power is applied that is the difference.
June 20, 2024
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Maggie
Hi guys, somehow I always end up with my shoulder line being slightly open after the post-up. My hips are at 45* and shoulders at around 15*-ish. Any ideas what I can focus on to fix this? I suspect it all starts with inability to fully turn back and then losing the hip line angle and the shoulder-line angle on the Sit-to-Squat step of the drill.... But I'm trying and trying to maintain my posture and it keeps happening which is driving me crazy....????
March 17, 2024
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Maggie
Oh, and apologies for seemingly angry tone of the message - I wasn't shouting, just emojis got formatted into multiple punctuation marks, haha well, technically I was angry but it was earlier at the range, when the balls were flying to the left ;P
March 17, 2024
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Alex
I’ve been practicing the dead drill at least 50-75 times per day for over a week. I’m definitely maintaining my tush line, and getting my weight transfer on my left glute before I post up. However, I’m now starting to feel some lower left back pain during/after the post up… Any idea what could be causing this? Or is it just muscles building?
January 24, 2024
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alex. Soreness is expected for using new muscles, but pain may be a signal from your body. Have you checked how much secondary axis tilt you have during post/finish?
January 24, 2024
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Vikram
Does the left shoulder ever end up higher than the right shoulder?
November 28, 2023
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Chuck
Oh yes for sure!
November 28, 2023
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Bob
Squat to Square is mentioned as an available video, however, when I search for that title, nothing is found
August 7, 2023
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bob. Squat to Square was replaced as some students found it a little confusing. The Magic Box video will be a good substitute.
August 7, 2023
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Robert
Craig, Will/should correctly performing the DD "automatically" shallow the club? Thx, Robert
April 15, 2023
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. If you move the body correctly all you have to do is make sure the arms stay chilled out. Club will follow the motion and shallow nicely.
April 16, 2023
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Christopher
I´m having a problem with the post-up phase. I can turn my hips towards the target OK and I can extend (reduce the flex) in my left leg but when my shoulders are lined up with the target line my left leg is not straight. I suspect that I would have to turn my hips more in order to straighten my left leg but then the shoulders will have moved too far towards the target line. My shoulders seem to be in the correct position at the transition so I don´t understand what I need to do to correct the post-up.
January 16, 2023
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Christopher. The hips only need to be 35/45 degrees open with the lead leg straight during post up. Most players are either spinning the shoulders too much, or in transition shift too far towards the heel on the lead foot and they can't move from the ball of the lead foot towards the heel to complete posting. Take a look at the Tour Pro Downswing Drill Video.
January 16, 2023
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Tyler
Hi Craig! When I took my lesson with you, we talked about transitioning directly to the lead heel. In this comment you talk about going from the center of the foot to the heel. How do I get that feeling? I know I am missing a bit on the toe of the club right now, is that a direct result of not getting my weight transfer centered? How do I go from the center of my foot to the heel in a split second of time?
September 19, 2023
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tyler. It moves from the balls of the foot to the heel very quickly after transition. This is how you are able to post up the lead side. The movement to going in the opposite direction of the golf ball. I would take a look at the Tour Pro Downswing Drill or Phase 3 Videos. Both will talk about how the pressure moves in transition to post up.
September 20, 2023
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Tyler
Thank you, I will check it out.
September 20, 2023
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bob
Im a little lost and confused here. I am trying very hard to get my footwork and weight transfer corrected after years of being a scratch player with a right hand dominate swing and early extension issues. Im working through the phases in the C4 program and just starting Phase 2. My difficulty is watching the DD Transition video which emphasises getting weight to the left side using a pulling of the lead knee- leg- oblique with a widening of the gap in the knees and the Axiom focusing on the trail knee coming through to point generally down the target line to get the left side to clear without thinking about it but I have no gap in transition. Im finally getting the left cheek to show itself a little at impact in the current Phase 2 drill by using the Axiom method. It is a very slow process but Im getting no gap with my knees in transition and Im not retaining the tush line. With the season ending here in Canada this week for me I'm determined to get this fixed once and for all this off season. where should I go in this process?
October 18, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bob. The gap is a byproduct of the proper shift. DEAD Drill will be easier to feel the squat so to speak when pulling your weight into the lead side. The Axiom the pressure shift around the foot shouldn't have the trail knee pointing towards the target until you start getting off the foot around the 9 O'Clock position. My suggestion. If you are having luck with Axiom. Perform the movement body only against a chair (Clamshell Video). Film the movement. If all is correct. Then, start to stack arms followed by club.
October 18, 2022
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Roger
An add-on to my last post. My wife has told me not to practice squeezing my glutes in the check-out queue at the grocery store. Apparently this can get you into trouble!
September 16, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
More sound advice!
September 16, 2022
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Roger
Strewth! RSG affects body parts I didn’t even know I had! Squeezing glutes at impact. I tried. Didn’t feel a thing! Then my wife, who exercises a lot due to significant osteoporosis, advised my to try squeezing my butt cheeks whilst standing up straight as a beginner stage . And there they were! I wonder how long it will take me to get to feel my glutes whilst in a posture position let alone squeeze them sufficiently to impact the quality of strike? Other aspects of the dead drill make a lot of sense and I sense are going to be influential. I have a lot to learn! And practice. And here’s another thing. Squeezing my glutes is the first time my wife has taken an interest in my golf drills carried out at home. One up to RSG!
September 16, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Haha. Nice! Glad to hear you have a new partner in your golf journey. It may take a few reps to get the squeeze feeling. Take a look at Squeeze the Cheeks for Consistency Video for some added help. Nevertheless, she is very wise. Try a beginner posture then work your way to more advanced.
September 16, 2022
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James
Big change for me is keeping the right foot down throught the Post up. Shifting to the right instep is a new feel/movement. I can see how it’s important to keep the consistency in the transition.
August 24, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great James. Pressure moving to the inside of the trail foot and letting the outer edge come up is very important.
August 24, 2022
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Shane
Hello, I'm working to understand the chain of muscles I need to contract to swing with the left side and successfully post up. Would I be technically correct in saying that the hips are rotated/opened by the legs and ground. And simultaneously the lead oblique and trapezius pull the left shoulder toward the lead hip? And if I don't activate my lead oblique and trap then my hips just sort of swing open and my upper body gets no power unless I recruit other stuff like trail oblique or pecs to push and cast. Thanks!
August 5, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Shane. The swing will be generated from the ground. As you external rotate the lead knee/inner thigh adduction to pull weight/lead oblique start to open the hips the lat will aid in pulling the arms in front. If you don't use the sequence above or as you mentioned. you will tend to just spin and push more with trail side arm/chest.
August 5, 2022
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Thomas
Its saying player.vimeo did not send data? Sorry 1st day newbie here, videos were working earlier..
July 13, 2022
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Chuck
I have never seen that error before but sometimes vimeo has a temporary glitch in the matrix that resolves itself after a couple minutes
July 13, 2022
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Thomas
Thanks Chuck. It was a temporary glitch! But it has just returned! Can you get your techy to have a look at it please?
July 20, 2022
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Tony
Hi Craig, I'm sorry if this comment is in the wrong place. I have a question about how the post-up, squat to square and release are sequenced. I don't know the best place to put this question, so I put it here. Hope that is OK. I am finding that I can hit the ball just as far doing the release drills as when I add in squat to square and post up etc. So, I figured something wasn't right. I looked at videos of my swing and could see how my lead leg isn't posting up until impact. I have thought of the squat to square and post-up as two moves, but looking at the video again, the post up seems to be almost an extension of the squat to square. I am doing the squat to square and I've worked really hard to take my arms out of the swing, other than for the release. It seems that my release starts after I have done squat to square but before post up, hence, impact is happening simultaneously with post-up., or just after. I remembered chuck saying that the post up got the club into the almost parallel to the ground 3 o clock position, it seems like squat to square is doing that for me. I'm not sure what to do. I was thinking of going back to this stage and building the post up back in as that second and continuous part of squat to square. Does this sound OK to you? Like I said, I've been working on the release and I think it is getting much better, plus, I can send the ball just as far with only a release, as I can by adding squat to square etc. I've been following the best golf in your life videos, flip vs release and the Vijay release, I think the release is OK or getting there. But, it can't be right that adding in the rest of the swing doesn't add anything. Could you offer any advice please?
July 9, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tony. Plenty fine to go back to these drills to help sequence. However, think about it as shift (sq to sq), post and then release. If you are still posting or finishing to much of the post up and impact you are losing the power transfer. I would take a look at this Live Lesson and Drill Video. It should help the blend and clear things up for you. Put these in the search box: "How to Decelerate Your Hips for Effortless Power" and "Tour Pro Downswing Sequence Drill".
July 10, 2021
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Nicholas.
Hello, Realizing I struggle with the post up likely more than any other part of the swing (releasing the club a close second). Is there a recommendation for number of slow or segmented reps (back swing pause squat to square pause post up) to do on the post up?
April 19, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nicholas. DEAD 3 (above) is a really good way to go. We usually recommend 300-400, but you stack as many as needed. Take a look at How to Use the Hips and Tour Pro Downswing Sequence Drill for aids in getting the lead hip cleared.
April 19, 2021
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Nicholas.
Thanks Craig, Follow up question, watching the Tour Pro Downswing Sequence Drill video Chuck mentions how he really likes to sit into the right side (lateral, rotational, post up), what, if anything is lost if you go from lateral to posting up? Perhaps the initiation of posting up leads to the rotation automatically, but I am struggling to put together the need for the rotation piece as separate step when working through the drill.
April 19, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nicholas. That would be squat too square. The sit helps get the glute engaged to fully fire from in posting. You can see same demonstration in Learn Perfect Weight Shift in Your Socks Video.
April 19, 2021
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Merrick
Hi. Several questions. 1. I'm having trouble keeping my head from moving back on the backswing and forward on the downswing, particularly when I make a good weight shift. I've been doing the wall drill which is great until I put a club in my hand. Do you have any drills or suggestions to quiet the movement of my upper body? 2. So far, the only way I've found to keep my head from moving forward on the downswing is to lean back as I post up, which makes it a bit more difficult to keep my weight on my left leg and I also feel a bit of strain on my lower back. That doesn't appear to be the move to make. How would you suggest I approach this? Thanks
March 7, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Merrick. The head will have to move a slight bit. Excessive will mean that you are pushing. Take a look at Pushing with the Left Side and Body Rotation in Golf Backswing - Chair Drill Videos. Make sure you are rotating from the proper muscles. The head will have to move a little coming down. Take a look at Preventing Hip Pain Video to understand the issue with the secondary tilt that is stressing the spine.
March 7, 2021
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Merrick
Hi. How important is it to have your shoulders level at post-up? As I straighten my left leg, my left shoulder elevates at a significant angle. Thanks
March 6, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Merrick. The lead shoulder will be slightly higher at impact. The feeling is level. You just don't want to be pushing from trail side excessively getting a high lead shoulder from too much secondary axis tilt.
March 6, 2021
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Gary C
At the end of the post up/impact, should my lead foot remain planted squarely on the ground with weight over the ankle/heel or is it okay for the inside of the foot to become lighter and lift off the ground slightly (such that the big toe is off the ground at impact). When I watch the pros it seems that at impact their weight is on their lead heel with the big toe off the ground and all weight on the outside and back edge of the foot. In chuck’s video it seems the I side of the foot remains planted. My shoulders end up square either way but I feel like I get slightly more weight shift and separation/lag between shoulders and lower body when allowing the foot to roll to the outside edge slightly. When the inside edge stays planted I feel like my left foot must splay more or it sometimes creates tension in my lead knee as if it’s trying to rotate further that it naturally is designed too with the lead inside edge staying planted. This may be subtle but I suspect it is significant.
January 29, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. For a stock shot it will be firmly planted in the ground. However, the more dynamic you make the hips (going for extra yardage). It will tend to have the same roll you see in the pros as described. You want to shy away from anything excessive.
January 30, 2021
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Paul
Does the right knee straighten along with the left knee or does it keep a little flex from the squat to square move?
January 26, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. As you move into the post up the trail knee should not straighten completely out. It will retain some of the flexion. Very easy to see in the Clamshell Drill.
January 26, 2021
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Steven
So how much do the hips shift? I've seen that "swaying" is bad, so is that different than lateral movement? It seems like hips don't move laterally too much in back swing and they move more behind, but definitely looks like hips move a few inches to the left during the post up. I think maybe I'm focused too much on not allowing my hips to move laterally because I constantly feel like I don't have 90% on my left at impact, and sometimes even have a lot of pressure on a pretty flexed trail knee. When I "feel" like I shift my hips more to the left, I can feel more weight go there, but want to make sure I'm not losing posture and such.
January 22, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steven. Swaying would be more equivalent to solely moving laterally in the swing. During the weight shift you are moving laterally and rotationally. Most amateur's underdo weight shift because they are afraid of swaying. You need to move. You will shift roughly the width of the pelvis.
January 22, 2021
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Steven
Awesome! Thanks for the reply. That makes sense. Will work on that and not be afraid to move laterally, but make sure there is rotation and stacking of joints on post up.
January 22, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steven. Take a look at this video to help: Learn Perfect Weight Shift in Your Socks.
January 22, 2021
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Gary C
Does the right leg straighten as part of the post up. After drilling this a bit, focusing on my hips rotating in a tight circle and really getting deep into my lead side hip with weight over the heel, I’ve noticed that as I straighten/push of the ground with the lead leg my right leg straightens a bit too. Kinda feels like I am pushing up with my right foot/toes a bit when this happens. I watched some slow motion tiger swings and it looks like he does this with irons and driver. Is this a good thing or a bad thing for me to be doing and if it’s okay is there anything I need to watch out for?
December 30, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. The trail leg doesn't need to straighten during post. You don't want to actively push too much unless you are older (aiding the hip rotation), or doing more a trail push release. But, standard protocol is it won't change too much.
December 30, 2020
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Gary C
I suppose I am somewhat naturally doing a push release but I am not familiar with it. I do feel that doing it that way both aids me in clearing my hip (I am not overly flexible though I understand that doesn’t really matter for RST) and more I feel it is more powerful than when my right leg doesn’t straighten. In your experience, if this seems to be a naturally tendency will it benefit me to change it to a more conventional way? Are there disadvantages (or advantages to the push release)? Now I am curious but ultimately want to do what will be easiest for me to achieve consistency.
December 30, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. There are advantages and disadvantages. Chuck has a few videos on this topic. Tough to cover all in this section. If you take a look at Throw the Ball Drill Part 2 you will see how the trail hip can aid. Also, the Overview of the Push Release and Tape Drill to understand the difference through the strike. Hard for me to say which would be best for you. If you have trained your lead release well already. I wouldn't see much reason to change.
December 31, 2020
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Gary C
Is it possible to move past NJA at the end of the post up if my right heel stays planted on the ground with the right foot rolled inwards slightly and with my weight 85% or so on the lead leg centered over the left heel with the weight slightly on the outside of the left foot such that the left big toe begins to lift? I am feeling like I am hitting all the points in this but occasionally feel a bit of discomfort in my left knee. On the mirror when I reach this position it looks like all my joints are stacked properly and it seems that the right heel staying on the ground helps prevent too much lateral movement but just want to make sure I am understanding everything properly.
December 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Sounds like you are adding some type of slide/push/lack of proper clearing. You can only move into neutral with the lead side. Your lead side can't pull you beyond lead without additional factors pushing you outside.
December 15, 2020
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Gary C
Craig, I took your comments and re-examined what I was doing. It seems I hadn’t quite gotten the transition right which was leading to something else wrong as I tried to post up. Went back and drilled the Clamshell drill and things in the transition have clicked. I am getting back to DD3 but I am still curious if my lead foot should remain flat at the end of the post-up. When I watch tiger and other pros their lead foot starts to lift off the ground from the big toe until all their weight seems to be on the outside of the heel at impact. Can you clarify what I see there with what I should be practicing. Obviously, they are going for maximum power and have the consistency to achieve that. I am just going for easy power and consistency so what is the difference for the amateur as it applies to RST. I know my weight will move toward the outside of the foot as I proceed through follow through so my real point of clarification is just at impact should my foot be flat or is it okay if it feels like my big toe becomes lighter?
December 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. It is okay to the toes to life a little, but also fine for you to stay planted like squishing a bug. The more aggressive you are with the post the weight will be moving back pretty quickly. Most iron shots for good consistency and power the foot will stay planted. A little curling of the toes will be fine when adding more pop.
December 29, 2020
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Gary C
So, keep it planted for more control. Let the toe lift and the weight shift back quicker for a bit more power?
December 29, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. The toes will tend to lift if aggressive. Don't use those as the gauge. But, if they lift because you are making a dynamic post. Don't be worried.
December 29, 2020
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ryan
hi guys, hope all is well.. I have a timing question. I've been practising the transition as such. When my hands are on the backswing at about 9 o'clock, that's when I begin to transition back the other way. then the squat to square is finished at about 9 o'clock on the downswing.. then from there, immediately begin the post up move from the 9 o'clock position, to allow time for the post up to be done, by the time my hand is in front of my right leg.. is that about right? thank you in advance.
November 30, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. The transition back will happen just after the lead arm parallel to the ground spot. SQ to SQ done at parallel arm to ground position and post up done by hand in front of trail thigh. You are pretty close.
November 30, 2020
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Alan
Let’s say you can hit all the check points for the post up drill with one or two swing thoughts. Should these swing thoughts be your only focus going forward as you add the lead arm, arm and club, both arms and club etc.?
November 20, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. Ideally, I don't want you thinking anything by the time you add other components. But, if you know the 1 or 2 major pitfalls. I would drill more to make them a little more consistent before stacking.
November 20, 2020
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Adam
If you take this drill and add both arms but no club (e.g. holding the thumb of your left hand with your right hand), what do the arms, hands, and wrists do between Dead Drill #2 and Dead Drill #3? I believe that from #1 to #2, the arms, hands, and wrists basically do nothing, but if they still do nothing all the way to the post up (#3), I end up with what would be the butt end of the club pointing at the target. So, is it just some forearm rotation that occurs here, or do the ams also have to pull down towards the belt buckle?
November 11, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Adam. The arms will be moved by the weight shift, torso and gravity. They will get pulled in front of the trail thigh where all you need to do now is release (forearms rotate over).
November 12, 2020
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James
First of all Craig, doing this indoors is not going to be a problem for it is so damn wet and windy out over here for the next week I'll not be going out anywhere! Interested where Chuck refers to the part at 5.45 talking about a certain amount of pushing with the right side but not to keen to introduce this into my swing. At the 7.10 mark I have worked on that part of the video often in the DEAD Drill Step 3 - Post Up. When Chuck says about feeling the right heel turning towards target at post up, I find for me, the move of feeling my right knee and inner right thigh being pulled towards target a much better feel to achieve this. My only concern here is not to lose my tush line. However, with that new move I have adopted of feeling my left hip pulling into a sit (squat) position prior to completing my backswing has helped me maintain that tush line for the first time ever. Don't want to lose that .
October 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. Yes, the Snead Squat combined with letting the trail leg get pulled. That will help you maintain the line as its the polar opposite of pushing towards the ball.
October 29, 2020
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James
It is something I have worked on now for about 2/3 weeks and for me it holds my trail leg and knee much more on the line I want to travel, plus, as opposing where the trail knee bends to towards the ball I find this tends to hold my weight on the right side back a bit and puts more strain on that femur. Another bonus I find it tends to pull my right shoulder under my chin maintaining the should tilt through impact or right side bend. I find doing this creates very little torque on that femur, so it is a plus, plus for me.
October 29, 2020
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Andrew
After reviewing my swing (From about 2 months ago) with a pro i noticed that in my post up i press off the front of my feet which sometimes puts me off balance and throws my left shoulder up high / i lean back into it. When practicing this movement should it feel like i'm using the back of my foot to push up which results in my left glute going backwards? This seems to put me in the correct position but I am not sure if that is the feeling i should be having? I have been able to get the rest of the movement down pat really easily (feels natural) but the post up seems to be alluding me.
September 30, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andrew. You will start pushing into the back of the foot and posting up. The motion will originate a little more towards the front of the foot. You don't want to transition straight into the back of the heel, or you can't post correctly. Take a look at the Clamshell Drill.
September 30, 2020
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Peter
Chuck talks about, at 11:37 of the video, the counter steering or counter torque with regards to the right heel. During my practicing of the the post up drill, during the squat to square move, I can feel the slight shift of the right heel. Is it reasonable to consider that as a check point for that stage of the move? it seems to coincide with the lateral move of the left knee, rotation of the let hip, and driving down(sitting of the left side) of the left foot. Thanks
September 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Peter. See if the feeling/checkpoint is similar to what Chuck references in the Sam Snead Squat Video. You should be pretty planted at squat to square, but the counter torque feeling is perfectly fine.
September 28, 2020
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Duc
In the post up am I suppose to push straight down and turn my left hip thereby keeping the hip/knee/ankle in the same plane? Or am I suppose to push the left hip back where it is no longer in the same plane as knee and ankle. I'm assuming you actually try and push it back, as I've seen videos where Chuck has folks pushing back a chair behind them with their left buttocks during post up and follow through.
September 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Duc. You use the lead leg to help push the hip back. Even though you clear/push back the hip. The hip socket, lead knee, and ankle joint should still be stacked.
September 18, 2020
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Duc
I think I understand. When I push the hip back, all three are still in alignment, but if a drew a line though them, i'm prob just under 90 degrees to the floor. They are all straight just not perpendicular to the floor as if I were just standing straight up. The weight is more on my ankle and heal than evenly spread out over the foot as if I were standing straight. May just be trivial, but trying to picture my vector of force as I do the post up move.
September 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Duc. The weight will be to ankle/heel, but you should be pretty closed to perpendicular to the ground. The line shouldn't be slanted. Take a look at Lydia Ko - 3 Steps to Better Impact Video.
September 18, 2020
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Russell
Normal to feel a good muscle soreness in butt and obliques after doing 200 reps?
August 30, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Russell. Pain is bad. Soreness is expected. Activating new muscles you aren't used to using in the swing.
August 31, 2020
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Martin
Does the left knee actually stop before you post up. Some times it feels like it just makes a circle when I post up.
August 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Martin. The lead knee will get stacked during transition. The key is to not let it go outside neutral positioning. It may feel circular to some players. But, confirm with video you are hitting the correct spots.
August 28, 2020
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Martin
Now all I have to do is get rid of the chicken wing. 5 minutes to a perfect release. Any other suggestions? Thx
August 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Martin. Cure Chicken Wing in the Golf Swing and RST Student Cures the Chicken Wing Videos.
August 28, 2020
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John
Where do we lose the initial axis tilt?? With hips slightly open, shoulders square and level, and left leg straightened at post up, it seems to have disappeared?
August 20, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. You will lose a degree or two in the backswing due to weight shift. But, it will actually increase slightly in the downswing and what we call secondary axis tilt.
August 20, 2020
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Kyaw Thet
Hi Craig, After working on the DEAD drill for 94 days without even going to the practice range, finally I went to the practice range and hit the real balls. I just was just focusing on my body movements without thinking about arms and club, hitting great shots when I let go of my right hand at post up. But when I tried to put my right hand on the club longer, my right heel would come off the ground before impact. Any suggestions to fix this? Thanks again for helping me own a new golf swing.
August 17, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kyaw. You've put in some great work into the swing! Sadly, the trail foot takes time to train. When doing 9 to 3 with some authority does the trail foot behave (both hands)?
August 17, 2020
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Kyaw Thet
Hi Craig, Thanks for your reply; today I did 200 reps of 9 to 3 only with normal swing speed focusing on my lower body. I feel some muscle tension (bottom of my right shoulder) when releasing with both hands. But when I let go of my right hand, I don't feel any muscle tension; may be I am not used to putting the right hand longer on the club yet.
August 17, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kyaw. Sounds like it is foreign to you to leave the trail hand on the club, but not over use it. As you go through the shoulder plane will tend to steepen slightly and you may feel a little more tension/side bend.
August 17, 2020
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Veasna
Is this “hard” or “soft” post up?
August 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Veasna. You don't need to hyper extend the lead need. But, the post needs to be dynamic to trigger a powerful release.
August 16, 2020
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Mikko-Pekka
Hello Craig. Thank you for the review. I seem to struggle with this post up move. Do I fire the arms too quickly or something else? I feel that I can't post up any sooner. Do I have the same issue as in this RoadShow episode? https://youtu.be/OvUOLqgTlto
July 29, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mikko. Yes. You can see around 16:00 thats the same move we were working on in live lesson. Not necessarily sooner. But, sequence better to not fire the arms/club too soon.
July 29, 2020
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Steven
Almost have it solved with step 1-3 through post up, but my lead shoulder is still too high . I do not feel I am pushing off the right leg anymore. Any suggestions or feel to even out the shoulders at the finish?
July 19, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steven. Take a look at Level Shoulders Drill to find some hints on keeping it lower. Also, when you finish put the shoulder into the correct position. Check to see if you had to undo excess tension to get it back.
July 20, 2020
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James
When posting up after a proper shift to square, I should have most of the pressure in the center of my left heal. In this way, I’ll get proper vertical motion and rotation to clear the hip. Correct?
July 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. After squat to square you will be around the center of the ankle joint feeling the weight closer towards the heel than the toes.
July 18, 2020
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Gordon
question on hip rotation. 45 degrees closed on the backswing. What about at the end of the post up? Should it be 45 degrees open or even more since the lead leg is completely straight?
July 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gordon. The hips will need to be about 35-45 degrees open at post up/impact.
July 15, 2020
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James
I have just watched the YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ss1DQYDrig about hip movement with particular reference to posting up. Craig has been trying to get me to do this more but somehow have not been able to get to it properly. I do have a gammy left leg that I thought was affecting my ability to do this properly but after watching this video I worked on what Chuck showed very explicitly and think I am getting it. I am really feeling the stretch in my left hamstring as I push my left heel into the ground. Done this fine in front of mirror without a club, not enough room for that and it does look good. When the weather is better will try this outside with a club.
July 13, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great James. We've been protecting that lead leg a little. If the stretch and post (drive) into the ground is getting you clearing better I look forward to seeing the positive changes.
July 13, 2020
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bob
So in struggling with posting up I think the problem I have is that once I squat i activate the left quad it seems which means I get stuck and naturally it seems. swing the arms thru which is of course incorrect . This leads to a straightening of the body losing the tush line and added height to the ball flight and a loss of distance. How do I get past this??? I watched the Perfecting Lower Body Stability and I still get stuck. Do I simply tear it apart and rebuild it and watch the summer slide away?
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bob. Take a look at Which Muscles to Feel in Golf Swing Transition. Sounds like you are letting your weight move too much towards your toes and can't get the lead side cleared. The Clamshell Video will help with this as well.
July 8, 2020
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Mike
I don't feel like the post up move opens up my body enough to stop me from early extending my hips. I get stuck and stop rotating my lower body. What is the benefit of doing it this way rather than say... the way George Gankas teaches the transition? He says rotate first then come up to avoid early extension.
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mike. I am unfamiliar with George's process. However, take a look at Eliminating Early Extension, Clamshell, and You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs Videos. You should be able to clear the hips plenty enough to shy away from losing the tush line. EE is solely caused by driving the trail hip towards the ball.
July 7, 2020
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Jon
I read a lot about Jack Nicklaus growing up and how he was taught to roll his ankles, specifically the right ankle being the key on the downswing - is another way to think of the squat and post up to in essence get left and roll that ankle which would prevent you from spinning out that back hip?
June 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jon. The trail foot will react as a byproduct. By just allowing the slight roll in squat and post it will make sure you can get enough weight transfer/clearing of the hips without excessive spin/push.
June 22, 2020
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James
Craig Marrow, thanks for the second video review. What do you mean by left leg narrow? Please explain. Thanks. Jim Pullins
June 19, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. Stance is slightly narrow. Take your left leg. Widen by 1 more inch. No problem for the review.
June 19, 2020
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James
Thanks. I understand that. Great job on the instruction by you and Chris in Boot Camp. We all appreciate your time and efforts for our group.
June 19, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks James. Much thanks for participating.
June 19, 2020
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Rod
I am currently doing Bootcamp with Chris and Craig, and loving it , completing changing my idea of the golf swing, we are up up post up stage. When doing the squeeze the cheeks I find it very difficult to stay in posture, my legs tend to tense up and I loose tush line. Any advice would be greatly appreciated Cheers from Australia Rod
June 18, 2020
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Michael (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Rod Great to hear you like the bootcamp. It is a move that can be difficult to get the right feel if you haven't done it the right way before. Make sure that you pull the left hip back when you post up and do the squeeze the cheeks. Take a look at Clamshell video to see how the hips move correct so you squeeze the cheeks in the right position.
June 18, 2020
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James
Hi coaches. I'm in the Bootcamp right now, and struggling with the post up. When I focus on my legs and hips only, my shoulders end up square with my hips at the end of the post up (35-45 degrees open), instead of square to the ball. Any thoughts?
June 17, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. The shoulders should be square and hips open 35-45 at impact. Means you are manually moving them too much. Take a look at Keep the Rear Shoulder Back Video. Try to exaggerate keeping the shoulders closed as you post.
June 17, 2020
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Don
I’m having trouble with the post op move. My right shoulder seems to dip much lower than my left. As I straighten my left leg, my left shoulder raises up and my right shoulder drops. I feel as this is caused by my lower body movement, but in the video Chuck clearly shows the right shoulder nearly level, perhaps slightly lower. Thanks, Don
June 12, 2020
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Michael (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Don You are using your shoulders to much. Try to keep the should relaxed and faced away from the target as long as possible.
June 12, 2020
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Don
What should the position of the right knee be at post up? I feel that my right knee gets too flexed at post up, which leads to too much secondary axis tilt and a right shoulder that’s too low. Does this make sense?
June 13, 2020
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Michael (Certified RST Instructor)
Take a look at the video "Role of the Right Foot in Downswing".
June 14, 2020
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Michael (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Don The right knee is slightly angled in towards the left knee. It's moved in that position because of the left side is in neutral joint alignment and posted up. Sounds like you still are using your right side to push. Focus on getting the weight on you lead leg and check you are in neutral joint alignment. The right side i passive and moved by pulling from the left side.
June 14, 2020
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Max
Hey Craig- thanks for the swing review on May 7th. i'm starting from DEAD 1 as you suggested and going through the different vids as you recommended. What's your advice on trying to play golf while learning to build the swing the right way? I don't have an issue putting in the practice time, and hit it well at the range, but when i played yesterday, it didn't really transfer. If the target was at 12 O'Clock, i hit a lot of squib shots towards 2 O'Clock. Very frustrating round. Also have been tinkering with the interlock grip vs overlap to stop my left hand from getting too strong. Any guidance would be appreciated.
May 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Max. I recommend overlap to players because it will tend to make you less handsy at the moment of truth. However, playing during a swing change is truly difficult. My suggestion is picking one thing you are working on and stay solely concentrated on achieving that goal. Take a look at Should You Play Golf While Learning Your New Swing? Video.
May 25, 2020
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Bernd
Hi Craig, I am currently working on the Post-up move, but I nearly always post-up a couple of inches too early - meaning: my leg straightens before my hip is over my ankle and knee. Is there some kind of drill that helps with this? Currently, I need each time the mirror and have to re-adjust my position...
May 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bernd. Take a look at Perfecting Lower Body Stability and Which Muscles to in Feel in Golf Swing Transition. Both, will help you focus on better weight pull/sit which will aid in your rushing things.
May 21, 2020
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jane
Craig I am happy to tell you I signed up for the Boot Camp. It is something I have always wanted to do.
May 17, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jane. Love it. Perfect for what we are doing right now with your swing!
May 18, 2020
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Roy
Can posting up too soon cause thin shots? I definitely feel the weight shift during transition and I am using my obliques and post up move to turn my hips but I have a tendency to hit some thin shots. The trajectory is exactly (or pretty close to) where I want the little white devil to go but I'm hitting it thin. Please enlighten me. Thanks.
May 7, 2020
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Justin (Certified RST Instructor)
Roy, When posting up, make sure that doesn't get confused with losing your angles. I've found that when I hit one thin it's because I've come out of posture.
May 7, 2020
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Keith
In the current bootcamp and loving it! Have a question that I felt too lengthy to describe in the live sessions. At the completion of the post-up move, I'm trying to get that feeling of the glutes squeezing together. Really though, what seems to happen is with the straightening of the lead leg as the hip shifts/rotates behind and the trail foot becoming very light, there's no "leverage" for that trailing glute to squeeze against. At completion, my lead side glute feels extremely loaded and attempting to squeeze the glutes together just tightens the left glute further. So my question - is this more of a "feel" versus what's actually happening?
April 29, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Keith. Thanks! Both glutes will activate. You may have more awareness in the lead because of the weight placement. But, both are still stabilizing the hip motion. Take a look at Squeeze the Cheeks Video.
April 30, 2020
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Tony
Another excellent video.
April 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Tony.
April 28, 2020
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Matthew
Hi Craig, I find my big issue right now is once I go to post up, my lead hip flies out and my lead shoulder gets a large amount of verticality. This causes me to block shots as I get a lot of secondary reverse tilt and the club drops way inside. I have nowhere to go with it but right. When I focus more on pulling the oblique behind me in more of a straight lateral type of movement, I get back on top of the ball nicely and cover it well. Any specific videos or tips on this? I seem to always want to naturally overdo the lead hip action which gets things going wrong. Maybe just doing dead drill 3 with arms folded is the best idea.
April 26, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matthew. Arms folded is always a good idea. Also, take a look at the Level Shoulders Video and Play the Best Golf of Your Life in 6 Weeks Video 4 of 6. A great way to sequence the proper position, but do it with a ball. I think you are just adding aggressive hips with a side appetizer of trail side push.
April 27, 2020
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Matthew
Ahhh that’s it. The push from the right side. I had taken a break and forgot about that. I will for sure check out those videos but I think the trail push is exactly what it is. Thanks Craig!
April 27, 2020
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Juan Eduardo
Hi Chris, Craig. My question si how much axis tilt is the maximum tolerable at the post up , because is difficult to keep the left shoulder down in the transition, and I think is the main driver to stay level without a lot of axis tilt at the post up. Thanks!! I am in BootCamp. Amazing job there. Very very useful and recommended
April 25, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Juan. Thanks you for the compliments. The secondary tilt will be just outside the lead knee. So, if you put the club down your sternum that would be the checkpoint. The degree will vary from student to student because of their setup.
April 25, 2020
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Alan
I'm in the current Boot Camp and we are working on the Post Up. I have noticed that when I straighten my left leg in the post up, my left shoulder can go up significantly. To stop this, I have to really push my left cheek up and back which I know is part of the Post Up but is that the way you keep your shoulders level at impact? Seems like its just forcing me to lean forward more.
April 24, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. Pulling the hip back is how you maintain the spine angle/tush line and keeping lead shoulder down.
April 25, 2020
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Jonathan
Hello. No matter how hard I try, during the post up move, my tush line will move forward at least 1-2 inches every time, even more at times. It seems impossible for me to maintain the tush line, no matter if I try hard to keep my tush back or try to pull the left leg out of the way. It seems that the momentum (weight) of the club is always pulling my body forward also. Any tips for this? Thanks.
April 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jonathan. Without seeing it you have to be pushing with trail hip, letting the weight move towards the toe. If I could see the move I would find the culprit. Take a look at Maintain Tush Line - Chair Drill in the meantime. Perform the drill with a club.
April 23, 2020
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Jonathan
Hi Craig, Yes, I do tend to push with the trail hip, however, I am trying to not use it at all, and my right leg kicks in as well. Thanks, I will try the chair drill again, and I will be posting up my swing for a swing review soon.
April 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jonathan. Take a look at the Two Way Miss Video as well. Good way to reign in over usage of legs.
April 24, 2020
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Jonathan
Hi Craig. Wow, you just changed my life, seriously. I've seen Chuck talk about the stuff in that video before but I got it at a crazy new level this time. I am also currently in the bootcamp, so maybe everything is just clicking now. The tush line is much easier to maintain and my right leg isn't kicking in hardly at all!! However, I still struggle with coming under the plane in the hitting area, which causes me to hook it at times pretty severely (but just murders the ball) or hit a weak high ball to the right. When I do get my club on plane, it goes straight, but higher and not quite as far as the 'hook' shot. Any video or tips for this? I'm also trying to use the ground force now as I'm feeling my swing is a bit armsy. Thanks!
April 25, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jonathan. Take a look at Trace the Plane Line Video for your plane/path. Love hearing the good news. No problem for the help.
April 25, 2020
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Saad
Hi. My question is that at the end of the post-up, the shoulder are square and parallel to the ground but because one is maintaining axis tilt from the address position to the post-up, the shoulder would also maintain the same position and left shoulder would be higher than the right one. Is that correct or am I doing something wrong? Thanks.
April 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Saad. Your feel is level to the ground. The shoulder can be slightly higher due to the secondary axis tilt.
April 23, 2020
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Roger
Thanks Chuck. A question... Why dont you have axis tilt at the start?
April 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Roger. Always have axis tilt. It may not be noticeable sometimes during demonstrations. But, you must add hip bump/tilt.
April 22, 2020
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Sultan
While practicing the Post up drill for (step 3) for a few days, I started to get pain behind my knee. Is this normal for first few days. ? Also, what will be the best way to combine practicing both step 2 and 3?
April 14, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Sultan. Pain is a sign something is wrong. Make sure you aren't hyper extending the lead knee during post, or having to come out of an excessive squat position. Chunk and then blend. There really isn't a cheat sheet. If you start doing well sectioning off the movements. Slowly blend together.
April 14, 2020
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Keith
I have two questions about the lead and trail feet. #1 Does the trail foot have to roll toward the target like Chuck's? My trail shoe is still flat to the floor at completion of post up, my foot inside my shoe has rolled slightly and 90% of weight is on the lead foot. I experimented with different stance widths and it doesn't make a difference, my trail shoe doesn't roll off the ground. #2 Where should we feel the weight in our lead foot at completion of post up? I feel it behind the ankle more toward the heel, and 70% on the outside of the lead heel.
April 3, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Keith. If the trail foot is perfectly flat on the ground. More than likely you don't have enough weight and enough freedom to clear the hip properly. The foot needs to roll in slightly. If you are getting a lot on the outside of the foot. Make sure your hips aren't opening too aggressively, or pushing the weight to the outside. The goal is center of the ankle joint trending back towards the heel. From your notes it sounds like you may be hanging back slightly and spinning.
April 4, 2020
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Keith
I'm struggling with the right foot. What movement/muscles are pulling the right foot to roll toward the target? When I'm at impact my right foot is so light someone could easily lift it, and the outside is coming off the ground but definitely not as pronounced as Chuck (not visible with shoes). I can deliberately add a little more lift to roll, is that what we do? Maybe I am trying too hard to keep the right foot dead quiet on the transition/post up?
April 4, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Keith. The foot gets pulled/moved more as a byproduct because you are pulling the weight with the inner lead thigh adductors and clearing the hips. If the foot is light and the outer edge is slightly up. You should be okay. However, take a look at the Role of the Right Foot, Preventing Hip Pain (for pull), and Perfecting Lower Body Stability. The goal is to just make sure you aren't hanging weight back on the foot as you finish the post.
April 5, 2020
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Nick
Hey guys, Is there a drill that can help me keep my shoulders square at post up. I've gotten better at it but it seems my shoulders tend to naturally open a bit towards the target. I'm struggling to bring my shoulders square to target at post up. Any drills??
April 1, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nick. Take a look at Keep the Rear Shoulder Back Video. Sadly, it takes a lot of work to turn off shoulder spin. Also, Moving the Fulcrum Video.
April 2, 2020
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Florian
So my checkpoints at IMPACT: - left leg straight - Cheeks squeezed - Shoulders parallel to target line (but left should of courser higher) ? Thx, Cheers
April 1, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Florian. Yes. Hips open 35-45 degrees. Shoulders roughly parallel to the ground. Lead may be a touch higher. No much since you don't have the arms/club involved.
April 1, 2020
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Brian
Hi Craig, Any specific advice and drills on how you can ensure you reach post up before impact? Many thanks. Brian
March 30, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Brain. Good sequence in this video to practice. Play the Best Golf of Your Life in 6 Weeks 4 of 6 Video.
March 30, 2020
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Simon
Hi, when we post up, should we notice a slight movement of our trail hip forwards towards our lead side? In my back swing, and squat to square, my right hip stays pretty much in the same location, however, in the post up, my right hip moves towards my lead side.
March 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Simon. The trail hip will have to leave the chair a little bit (if behind you like a tush line) because it will be following the rotation of the lead hip.
March 29, 2020
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Beat
Dear Chris , thanks for replay . Which muscles do I need for these initial 35 to 45 degrees of rotation ? Do they take place before neutral joint alignment during posting up and are the quad and the gluts the muscles which bring the front hip out of it‘s way to open up the space ?
March 26, 2020
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Beat, no problem at all. The muscles that rotate the hips open are going to be more from the core and NOT from the legs. The glutes are used for stabilizing the pelvis and are not muscles that actually rotate the hips. Think about the lead side obliques as the muscle group you need to rotate the hips open. When you sit to the lead side, the glutes should activate to help stabilize and keep you from over rotating when you are using the obliques to open things up further.
March 27, 2020
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Beat
Dear Chris , when I post up on my front leg , I straighten it and what shall I do with my hip to bring her out of the way ? Do I push the hip towards my back ? What about the rotation which will take place ? Which muscles do I activate ? The gluts and when come the obliques in action ? Thanks for your answer
March 25, 2020
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Beat, the hips should rotate open during the post up to 35-45 degrees. You want to make sure the lead hip is in NJA and the obliques are the muscles we would like you to use to help rotate the hips open to this position. Let me know if that helps or if you need any further info.
March 26, 2020
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Jens
Craig i've gotten more concerned over my twisting left foot as i get in to the followthrough, feeling i apply pressure to the inside of my left foot as i transition has not helped. I actually can't rotate through even in slowmotion just trying to stack my body in a followthrough position, and i am concerned that all my issues are actually stemming from an incorrect understanding of the post up, feel like i should be able to replicate a finnishing post otherwise. Can you give me any pointers on how the pelvis needs to tilt and rotate through the hitting area and into the followthrough, just my gut feeling but felt reinforced that might be my issue from watching chucks latest video on what made him unable to make a proper backswing. Body is just a mirror over the midline so shouldn't that be what is forcing my left foot to twist?
March 24, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jens. You could be getting too far back on the heel. Explaining pelvic tilt and rotation through the follow through will more than likely bog you down. I haven't needed to explain that to a student ever to achieve. The hip does move back and away during post, so there will be some changes in tilt and direction. Thinking about your swing you are being too aggressive with it and not slamming on the breaks. 35-45 degrees open with the hips and just a straight leg. You tend to drive them to a point they can't decelerate quick enough in sequence.
March 25, 2020
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John
Hello, When I "squat to square" and am shifting weight from my right foot to my left, the remaining weight on my right foot moves from center foot to ball or even toes. And by the time I post up, my right heel comes up off the ground. Should I try to keep more weight back on the right? Won't I lose some of the energy of the weight shift?
March 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. Sounds like you are pushing off the foot. Try the Sam Snead Squat Video. This should help with keeping it planted better during transition.
March 23, 2020
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Chuck
I just sent in videos for analysis and made an error in my commentary. I said R (lead) foot when obviously my R foot is my trail foot! Oops.
March 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chuck. No worries. I'm sure the Instructor will catch it.
March 23, 2020
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Vu
Hi Craig, I have trouble with the post-up as when I try to push my left foot down, I often stand up and lose my spine angle (my head also move up). From the transition to post-up, how do I know which muscle / body part to move first?
March 12, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Vu. Take a look at You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs. Sounds like you are just driving up and not clearing the hip behind you. You should feel the lead glute firing and lead oblique pulling away.
March 12, 2020
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James
Further what I said in the previous comment, it is the area on the left side of my left femur, just above the knee that suffers most, hence the reason I do not straighten the leg as Chuck does when posting up.
March 10, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. No issue. Work through as much as you can without the adding additional stress.
March 11, 2020
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James
It is very frustrating for me Craig, knowing I can get the leg posted up straight and I do start to in the beginning of a round like this, especially after taking pain killers (with the advice of my surgeon). However, as the round wears on I start getting a reaction after about two hours of combined playing and walking in that leg. I feel I must adopt a routine all the time of letting that lead knee stay slightly forward flexed throughout the round and work my swing around that to be able to stay more consistent. I realise it will cost me some distance but feel it will be a price well worth it to stop aggravating that femur, bearing in mind I have already broken off the top screw-head of the eight in the femur!
March 11, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. Agreed. No more damage to the femur. I feel you pain. Not in the leg, but after 9 my trail shoulder really tires from past operations. Hard to commit to making a full turn.
March 11, 2020
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James
Craig I do this drill regularly, however, when you pointed out the review about not posting the lead leg up straight, whereas I have my knee slightly bent, I have to protect my femur and knee with all those pins locking it. I can easily do the dead drill easily but when I use a club and make a swing, the swivelling momentum created by the weight of the club does cause more pressure on that injury area over the course of a round or practice. Basically, the slight bending of my lead knee is a defensive mechanism to protect too much pressure being exerted on the knee and femur. If I try to post up with an almost straight lead leg, I do get a reaction as a round or practice progresses. Even walking without a trolley, I need a stick to protect that leg, which I keep in the bag. The trolley acts as a zimmer frame for me. Basically, yes I can straighten that leg but if I do I will suffer later in the round. So somehow I have to live with a slightly bent knee for consistency or my golfing will end prematurely. I hope you can understand that I need to keep the pressure off that knee and femur as much as I can.
March 10, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. Completely understand and aware of the lead leg issue. The only reason I mentioned it was in your notes it didn't sound like it was aggravating you too much which is why I wanted you to test it. No worries.
March 11, 2020
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Paul
Is there such a thing as an appropriate swing thought? Does the RST even discuss this? I could not find anything in the video search... Thanks.
February 26, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Ideally, we don't want you to have swing thoughts. If you need to have 1 thing with hyper focus while making a change. No issue. But, the point of repping and all the work is to make it pretty brain dead by the time you need to pull the trigger.
February 26, 2020
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Ken
Hi All, When doing the post up (by straitening the front leg), the move seems to throw my center backwards resulting in fat shots. I am posting with various amounts of pressure depending on the length of shot, but the issue happens throughout the bag. Any guidance (or videos) would be greatly appreciated.
February 25, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ken. You may be over-exaggerating the post up move. Take a look at You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs Video and Perfecting Lower Body Stability Video.
February 25, 2020
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Kevin
Hi Craig - somewhat of a two part question. I’ve had some issues with going past NJA - when I watch some videos sometimes my post up move is late - what would be the disadvantage to retiring on posting up earlier in the transition? Second question, I made this video and put lines on each side of my head - my head is sliding laterally quite a bit from setup and I’m wondering if that is related to my past NJA issue
February 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. If your head was on the original white line on the left. It has moved a bit too much. The head won't stay perfectly static, but may have slid out ahead. If you post up too early you can trigger early release and/or not finish your weight transfer.
February 24, 2020
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Ronan
Hey ! Chuck says on the facebook group you need to stack the step up, as soon as you don't mess up When should you do the 3000 reps ? on the very last step with the trail arm ? Thanks !
February 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ronan. If you can get the trail arm on and not mess anything up. Rep as many as humanly possible. For going step by step. It usually take a bout a 1000 to be proficient at a move, but you may have older movement patterns built in that are correct. If you can do DEAD 1/2/3 correctly and when you add the arm those components don't break down. Stack the piece. Go until you break and spend your time there. Chuck wants to make sure you keep pushing for greatness, but not at the cost of other previous components going away.
February 22, 2020
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Ronan
Thanks Craig
February 24, 2020
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William (Certified RST Instructor)
I've been working on keeping the left shoulder lower than the right on the transition and post. My shoulder angle usually stays the same until I start posting. I've noticed that the post up move starts tilting my shoulders no matter what I do.And I haven't been able to keep the shoulders angled down as long as chuck. When I add my lead arm it gets worse. Any idea what's causing this or how to keep my lead shoulder and spine angle from tilting to early. (It's not from pushing with my right side)
February 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. It won't be perfectly parallel. However, I would check 2 things. 1) Stance isn't too wide. 2) You are keeping the tush line and not pushing with the trail hip. Both of these can cause high lead shoulder.
February 22, 2020
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Anders
Hi, when i am doing the post up, my lead shoulder gets higher than my trail shoulder at impact , ,( have axis tilt at setup) does that mean i moved them, or pushed from the trail side? Any advice to fix it ?
February 2, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Anders. The lead shoulder will be slightly higher. When you don't have a club/trail hand out in front. The shoulders will be closer to parallel to the ground. It won't be perfect though. The lead will still be a hair above. This will increase the more you work through the DEAD Drills with the additions of arms/club.
February 3, 2020
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william
I have been releasing the club so late in my swing that now it feels like I am releasing it almost behind me. When I post up with my left leg will that make the release point automatic.... I noticed one video that I believe Chuck did talking about don't let the right shoulder get past the right ear in the downswing and that feels mighty early but I am hitting the ball so much better...
January 20, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. Yes, you have to keep in check that trail shoulder spin/push. When you get more comfortable with the post it will trigger the release. Good release comes from non-spinning shoulders and great post up.
January 20, 2020
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gary
A lot of the new talented young guys are keeping their trail thigh slanted forward on the backswing and their lead thigh slanted backward (at post up) on their downswing. They say they are doing this for additional power. Clay Ballard, (as you know a former Rotary Swing teacher) teaches this as well. Chuck doesn't teach this. Is it because of injury considerations or does he feel it just isn't the way to go?
January 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. There are many methods to try and squeeze out more yardage. However, like you mentioned we try to stick in the injury prevention territory. Too many players end up injured from swinging a golf club. And, we want you to maximize distance the safest and most scientifically proven way possible. The above way can put excessive torque in places that body does not prefer.
January 18, 2020
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ryan
hello, hope all is well.. If i wanted to get an analysis on my dead drill (with no club or left arm), start to finish, would that require usage of 1 of my 5 swing reviews? i don't want to drill it 5 thousand times as i plan to, without knowing its perfect first. if so, . thanks in advance.
January 12, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Yes, that would use one of your swing reviews. However, we prefer to see the drills versus the real swing for that very reason. Drill correctly!
January 13, 2020
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ryan
hello again. ive uploaded a request, but then theres an option to delete that request, (as i wanted to upload a slightly newer one),.. when i uploaded the newer one, it said "once submitted, you cannot delete it, or you will loose a review".. yet under pending reviews, theres an option to cancel pending review.. unless the 'loose a review' was referring to if you delete the original upload.. i hope this question makes sense... as i deleted the first pending request, i dont want to waste a review, by simply cancelling the pending request.. thanks!
January 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Let me ask Customer Service.
January 15, 2020
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ryan
hi Craig. first off thank you for your feedback on my swing review. Very helpful. After re-watching Chuck's videos on the dead drill, it seems like a good checkpoint would be on the transition squat to square move, (for those of us who have a tendency to want to rip our shoulders open), your shoulders go to roughly 45 degree angle.. then on the post up, they are roughly square to the ground..would you say that's accurate? thank you.
January 17, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. No problem for the review. Yes, lead shoulder down and shoulders not open more than 45 degrees. Then, on post up roughly level to the ground and square to the target line.
January 17, 2020
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ryan
hi Craig. im trying to find the shoulders level at impact drill. but can't seem to find it.. for some reason, at the post up move, i cant seem to keep my shoulders level to the ground.. backswing and transition looks good after working on it..
January 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Body only drill shoulders will be roughly parallel to the ground. Not perfect. Adding trail arm and club that will change a little. Go to the search box. Type "Level." First video.
January 18, 2020
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ryan
on the transition, you pretty much keep your shoulders closed, .. they chill out.. should that be the same sensation when you post up? i think thats why my left shoulder pops up, cause theyre not 'chilling out' at this stage..
February 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Shoulders should be chilled out in the entire downswing.
February 15, 2020
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Paul
As you are posting up in the lead side, is there some "magic" drill for the range (i.e. not the head on wall drill) to keep someone (me) from standing or moving torso up out of correct posture at impact? I keep losing my posture at impact...as I press my lead foot into the ground for power...while trying NOT to rotate my hips more than 45 degrees of rotation...my torso moves up and lose my tush line & posture. Please give me "the secret". I PROMISE I am not pushing from the right...but it does kind of look that way because with all the weight on the lead side pressing down the trail foot heal rises slightly. I think the "magic" move is that right foot torque thing you mentioned. If so, I think we need a video on that as it may fix MANY problems with posture loss. Thanks.
January 6, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. The right foot move is in the Sam Snead Squat Video. You need to film your real swing and draw a tush line. If your right hip is going away from that tush line during post up you have to be pushing with that leg. And/or, not clearing by moving the lead hip away properly. Focusing solely on the up move and not the back move. Take a look at You Hit the Golf Ball With Your Legs Video and Eliminating Early Extension. Also, if you send a review we can tell you if you are pushing or not.
January 6, 2020
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Stephen
Hi, when I post up with my left side I am finding I fall out of my posture (raising my head) and hit a lot of tops/thins. Any advice for drilling this into my golf swing whilst keeping in posture? Thanks
January 4, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. Even though you are posting up the hip has to move back. You should actually be able to maintain posture better. Take a look at You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs and Moving the Fulcrum Video.
January 4, 2020
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van
When I post up with club one handed 1) I note that I need to make a conscious effort to straighten my arm as my body goes thru transition to post up in order to achieve the same appearance as in Chucks picture for day 12 :live training. Thus some tension in the arm- is that ok? 2) in order to keep my the inside of my left foot-heel area-rolled to the left but DOWN I find I need to keep my left shoulder forward and slightly visible from down the line. Is that ok?.As I allow the shoulder to move even slightly behind down the line the right heel wants to come up .
December 17, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Van. Are you meaning the arm is bent at the top and then you straighten it to reach the position? Sounds like you are saying with the shoulders you need to keep them slightly more closed while keeping the lead shoulder down. That seems fine like you are deleting shoulder spin which is a good thing.
December 18, 2019
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Alan
I finally figured out a good way think about "post up". I think of it as "post back". I think about my left knee and left hip moving backwards. It seems to keep me from thinking about an upward movement with the left side. Also, I have been keeping my head down longer and then squeezing the butt cheeks through impact. It keeps pressure off my lower back and promotes a better release with the hips stopping the spinout.
December 16, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. Yes, the hip has to work back as you squeeze those cheeks into impact. Exactly what I covered in the last BootCamp. Hip works away as you post up (post back).
December 16, 2019
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Jason
I do understand Chuck when he talks about not too much tilt after you finish a swing with a possibility of hurting your back I noticed one of Rory swings or one of his videos he had injured his right rib and I noticed during the swing I had injured my right rib so I believe I'm putting too much tilt as I finish my swing I will definitely need to send in a review to have you guys look at it thank you so much but I do have soreness on my right rib so I definitely need to correct that before I injure myself any further
December 16, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jason. Christina should email you about your last post below. I deleted it to keep your email address from being worldwide known . Yes, please send in for a review if you are noticing pain. Also, take a look at this: Rory Mcilroy's Injury - How to Prevent It for You! Video.
December 16, 2019
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Matthew
Hi Craig, I totally forgot to register for this past bootcamp live session on 12/14. I was going to watch the replay but did not get it because I did not register. Is there a way to get access to this?
December 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matthew. Email: feedback@rotaryswing.com. I will make sure you get the link.
December 15, 2019
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Andre
I'm going through the boot camp and have submitted a review. Could one of you have a look at it? Thanks
December 11, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andre. I will take a look at the review in the morning for you.
December 11, 2019
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Andre
Great! thank you.
December 11, 2019
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Kim
Back to basics-Setting up for DEAD drill I seem to have much straighter legs than Chuck. He seems to "sit"into his posture with an angle back from the knees to the hips. Dropping a line from tush to the ground about how far should it be behind the heels?
December 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kim. The spacing will vary upon genetics and build. Your goal is to have spacing and not be inline with the back of the heels. You only need a little flex in the knees at setup. I would say I see way too much knee bend at setup more often than not.
December 11, 2019
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Fred
When playing what percent effort do you give an average iron swing? I can stay in total control until I get above about 70%.
December 5, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Fred. Usually about a 75-80% is a stock type swing. You rarely need to be swinging out of your shoes.
December 6, 2019
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Gary
Hello I really struggle with getting my hips to separate from my upper body on the transition. My shoulder seem to want to follow my hips making the shoulders open at impact. When I really concentrate on separating them my mind and or upper body feels like it is too far behind and I panic and accelerate my arms to catch up and then mostly flip at impact. This is extremely frustrating as my mind knows what it should do but the body won't cooperate. Any suggestions or thoughts how I can practice and play to improve this? Thank you
November 25, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Take a look at the Keep the Rear Shoulder Back Video for tips on stopping the shoulders. Also, you may need some drills to help you conquer the issue. I would work through the Play the Best Golf Of Your Life in 6 Weeks Series. Those drills are designed to help you sequence the swing with the emphasis on releasing and not spinning the chest.
November 25, 2019
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Nicholas
So I'm a few hundred reps into the dead drill and I know I am doing the moves correctly. Today when I did my drills I found when I started I was a little slower than I was yesterday. Yesterday I was able to do the move blended together at a slow pace, but smoothly. When I drilled today, I had to go back to breaking it into chunks and checking positions. My feel was a little different and I just seemed to struggle a little. I know Chuck has talked a bit about the learning process in some of the roadshows and how it's not linear progression. Could you maybe give me your thoughts on the process and what you've seen with yourself and students?
November 22, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nicholas. In the simplest terms there are going to be good days and bad. When learning a new movement pattern you are going to have to make the brain work. But, the brain at the end of the day is very lazy when it comes to working. It basically likes the way things are and is stubborn to change. Some days it will feel effortless and others it will feel like work. For myself and students the process is and can be arduous. The feels maybe the same as the day before, but when looking at video they don't match the real. Why all of us constantly have to keep checking the mirror and camera. Sometimes you wake up tired and not as fresh as the day before. Or, had a long day at work. There are so many factors that can play into an easy practice session versus hard. You have to stay committed knowing that if you repeat the same process the brain will have no other choice, but to ingrain the new movement. And, it will fight you tooth and nail.
November 22, 2019
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Nicholas
Perfect, thanks for the reply Craig!
November 23, 2019
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van
I think I am having an ah ha moment. In the post up is there an element of pushing away( Back as opposed to up). I have a tendency to get a little forward and when I try to post up it the movement is mostly up. If as is stated the club goes opposite to the direction it is being pulled am I not pretty much eliminating the move that creates the snap at the moment of contact. When I try to be better centered so that I can get a pull away from the ball it appears that I am getting much more speed after release and I am not fighting head and shoulder movement prior to contact. ?? Before I spend (waste) a lot of time on more incorrect movements I wanted to run this past you.
November 16, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Van. Yes, the post up is (up and back) to trigger the club (down and out). You will always be moving in the opposite direction of the club.
November 16, 2019
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Ryan
My biggest confusion with the post up move is how powerful should the push off the ground be in the post up. After watching the "You hit the ball with your legs" video and seeing some pros pushing aggressively in the upward motion to straighten your lead leg. How much force should be used in the post up? Any cues?
November 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Some pros and players will reach the lift off position with their driver (feet off the ground) because to hit it a long way the legs need to be aggressive. However, for standard or stock shots you don't need the lower half to be jumping of the ground. A standard shot you should be able to be aggressive enough with the legs to generate speed, but not pop off the ground.
November 14, 2019
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Ryan
So basically, you push off the ground as hard as you can to straighten your lead leg while not jumping your feet off of the ground?
November 15, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Yes, but remember there is a tempo and rhyme to these items. You want to let the legs do the heavy lifting for you. But, for stock shots you shouldn't be going crazy. Think shooting a free throw vs half court shot.
November 15, 2019
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Jens
Chuck often talk about how your balancing point becomes the knee if you stay on the balls of your feet. But where does it go when im firmly on my heel? Been testing in my post up to swich between being more centre foot and firm on heel and i cant feel a difference. Is there one?
November 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jens. Yes, if the weight starts moving towards the ball of the foot you primary balancing joint will know become your knee. Center of the ankle joint and towards the heel should still be the hip socket.
November 14, 2019
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Joel
Hi every body, can you tell me how to speed up my swing, i mean, when you want extra speed to try big drive...am i ok to think that the post up move should come as fast as we can? Thankx! Joe
November 13, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joe. Take a look at Proper Tee Height Video. Make sure you adjust for the big drive at setup. Also, You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs and How Swing Speed Affects Compression. Being a little more aggressive with the legs while making sure the mechanics with the upper half don't break down (shoulder spin, release, etc..).
November 14, 2019
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Kenneth
Any suggestions how to minimize/avoid soreness in left shoulder for a right hander?
November 12, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kenneth. Sounds like tension. You will tend to use new muscles when starting out lead arm only. However, you need to make sure you allow for momentum from weight shift and rotation to help you swing the arm to the top. May be over using the arm.
November 12, 2019
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Rich
I have what seems to be a rare issue of closed shoulders at impact. I try and keep them as inactive as possible. Do a need to engage them?
November 6, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. The shoulders do not need to be active at all in the downswing. However, you can restrict them to the point you aren't allowing the to get pulled by the legs/core. Some players have the flexibility to have a large separation of the lower half and the upper half. Nevertheless, check 2 things for me. 1) That you are clearing the hips enough. Lack of hip turn during the post up won't bring the shoulders around enough. 2) You aren't pushing with the trail hip creating more of a slide and adding excessive secondary tilt leaving the shoulders behind.
November 6, 2019
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Rich
Definitely not 2) What happens in the small bit between squatting to square and posting up. Chuck says to "continue shifting the weight to the left", but how? Is the left hip still rotating? Any other muscles doing anything?
November 7, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. As you post you will finish the last little bit of weight transfer needed when leaving squat to square. The lead hip is still rotating as you post and the inner thigh adductors will help you finish the weight. Take a look at Preventing Hip Pain and Which Muscles to Use in Golf Swing Transition .
November 7, 2019
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Rich
So do we not need any axis tilt at set up anymore? I couldn't figure why I still had a slightly higher left shoulder (although square to target) then a realised that chuck never begins this drill with any axis tilt. What gives?
November 5, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. You must always have axis tilt. Chuck when firing off reps may not seem to add it. But, I can promise you that you must have tilt every single time when drilling. You can see at the top he does have his axis if we were to stop at that position.
November 5, 2019
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Rich
Ok cool. So it's ok to have a slightly higher left shoulder at the completion of the post up as he does at the end of the video? Chuck mentions (about 3:20 - 4:00) that the shoulders should be level because he's not holding a club...
November 5, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. Yes, the shoulders will be pretty close to level after the post up because you don't have a club, or trail arm added. If you can upload your picture of yours I would be happy to look. Slight could be a different definition to everyone.
November 5, 2019
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Jens
Hi Craig, find that my shoulders do have a tendensy to open up too early from time to time when i practice the downswing sequence. Is it from me not properly relaxing my upper body or do i need to feel like i actively Strive to maintain the resistance in my core rotation that i built up in the backswing? If so is it then as i release the golf club that i can also feel like i let go of the separation between my core and hips?
November 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jens. If the shoulders are opening too much into impact. You are moving them albeit sometimes sub-conscious. Relaxing needs to happen regardless. But, you may need to feel a little restriction to get you over the hump. When you release the club the forearms will rotate over and the release will happen independently of the body motion. From there you just go into a relaxed follow through after the 3 O Clock position.
November 1, 2019
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Jens
So restrict them slightly for now with the end goal of being able to do it relaxed?
November 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jens. The shoulders need to be pulled in the downswing. If you are noticing you still are active with them and can't keep them from spinning open. You may need to feel some restriction to turn them off. With the end goal of being relaxed and pulled into position.
November 1, 2019
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Jens
Hi Craig, been at it this morning, already 100 reps. This train ain't stopping! One thing i have a difficulty feeling at impact is the full engage of my right glute. When the right foot is slightly rolled in i cant get the full squeeze. It happens first post impact once my heel start leaving the ground, once my right thigh "rolls in" is when i really feel i am crunching those glutes. Is it an activation i should try figure out how to trigger already when i'm just rolled in or is it the same for you?
October 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jens. The end goal is for those glutes to fire. But, if they are firing after impact you are losing out. After the strike you can't do anything about the strike on the ball. Take a look at Squeeze the Cheeks Video. You need to work on getting the feeling during the post up to take full advantage.
October 30, 2019
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John
HI Craig, since I've had issues keeping my chest from spinning open I've gone back to this drill, I was wondering, after my squat to square I now notice I feel like I'm lifting/pushing a good amount of pressure with my lead leg when posting up. This feels good and chest rotates perfectly to square by itself. Does this sound correct? I just don't want to be over doing a wrong move.
October 28, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. The post up is what brings the body around. The pushing of the lead into the ground is a normal feeling for this move. Just make sure you aren't being too aggressive during training.
October 29, 2019
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Jens
Been pondering why certain players such as rory have their right leg very angled in (collapsed) towards their left leg in their finnish. Feels like this isn't a position you can achieve unless your right leg/hip is aiding the lower body rotation in the downswing. Is There another explanation?
October 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jens. You will get pulled into the finish position. Take a look at Golf Swing Follow Through. You don't need to push of the trail to reach that position.
October 26, 2019
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Bill
On completion of step 3 where should you weight be?
October 23, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bill. 80-90% Lead side over the ankle joint at impact.
October 23, 2019
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John
HI Craig, I have been working on these drills extensively and am now noticing I am still early extending because my glutes are firing hard when posting up, and my left leg is snapping straight pretty hard. I've watched the early extending video and feel like Im not pushing from right side.
October 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. EE is caused by trail side push. What I would suggest if you believe push isn't in the equation. As you post keep the focus on pulling the lead oblique to clear the hips. Not so much the snapping, or straightening of the leg. The leg will straighten, but focus on clear vs "up" so much in the post up.
October 14, 2019
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John
Any videos explaining this pulling sensation?
October 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. Make sure you pull the weight correctly. Which Muscles to Use in Golf Swing Transition and Preventing Hip Pain. You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs and Perfecting Lower Body Stability for clearing hip.
October 15, 2019
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John
hi Craig, thanks for those, I have been repping this out and realized that my head was moving forward about a head width, i tried to remedy this but found that keeping the head still caused a high lead shoulder. I notice that Chuck says if this happens it is because i moved the shoulders, but even when i really focus and don't move the shoulders i still get the high lead shoulder
October 16, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. High lead shoulder is from moving the shoulders, or excessive trail push. I hope those videos help you pull better to level out excessive secondary tilt.
October 16, 2019
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Kirkland
I’m struggling with my trail side taking over the swing at post up instead of just releasing the club. I get to the top okay, but right at post up, I feel the urge to swing with arms and trailing side which causes all sorts of horrible shots. Any idea what I may be doing or what drill I should focus on?
October 13, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kirkland. Sounds like you need to work a lot on your release and keeping your trail shoulder back. Take a look at Play the Best Golf Of Your Life in 6 Weeks Video 4 of 6.
October 13, 2019
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Adam
Is it okay for your trail heel to lift off the ground at the end of step 3? The side of the ball of my foot is still on the ground, but my heel is off the ground a bit.
October 7, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Adam. The trail foot may roll onto the instep. Take a look at the Role of the Right Foot Video.
October 7, 2019
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Dimitar
I thought there should noticeable axis tilt. I'm failing to see how that gets implemented. Your shoulders seem fairly level at start and at post up. Can you please explain
October 7, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
You don't want excessive axis tilt at impact. It causes nasty backpain for sure. Take a look at Level Shoulders Drill.
October 7, 2019
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Kirkland
When posting up, 1. should the hands arrive over the trailing thigh at the exact same time as the post-up completes, or 2. it doesn't matter as long as the post-up occurs before the hands don't pass the thigh before post-up, or 3. will posting-up at the same moment the hands are over the thigh help with power?
October 5, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kirkland. After the transition, you want to post up to bring the hands in front of the trail thigh for the drill. You can post up too soon, or late. The idea is when post up completes the hands arrive in the trail thigh position.
October 6, 2019
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Frank
Wow, the timing of post up is much earlier than I though. Thanks for the info. Is there any video lesson that shows the timing of post up and position of hands?
October 17, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frank. Hmmm. Play The Best Golf Of Your Life in 6 weeks | 4 of 6, or Rotary Golf Downswing Overview.
October 17, 2019
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Michael
Despite doing each DEAD drills millions of times, slight exaggeration, I am still having great difficulty over the ball with a club. Mind is full of thoughts of movements and sequencing, so there is no flow or freedom. I seem to have no overall sense or feel of the complete swing happening intuitively and produce some horrendous shots. Should I just focus on the complete swing drill and not the 4 steps?
October 5, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. You first need to be able to do the body drill only without needing to think. For ex. If I was giving a lesson to you and asked you to show me the complete body move. That you could fire it right away without any errors, or thought. Same goes for adding arm, club, and trail side. It sounds like you are still having to think about your drill so with a ball you are going through the same process. By the time you add a ball release should really be the only think you need to focus because the other items are much ingrained.
October 5, 2019
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Russell
I am just beginning the drills in the RST 5 step program. I was delayed due to a physical issue. Should I continue with that or just transition to the Drill To End All Drills?
September 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Russell. Both systems will help you achieve your goal. However, the DEAD Drill will highlight more checkpoints that most golfers tend to mess up on when rebuilding the swing.
September 30, 2019
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Johnny
Is the transition and post up one continuous movement of the hips going across (to lead side) then backwards and up? Hence I only need to think about one movement, not two?
September 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Johnny. The shift and post will be continuous. Not an actual stop in between. We split them into sections for training purposes and the blend into a fluid motion.
September 30, 2019
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Michael
I am 72 yo. I went fro a 150 yd drive to a 210 yd drive before the DEAD Drill. Now I am hitting 230-240 yds with good control. Recently broke 80 for the second time. Exciting golf with less drama! Not near as much stress on the body.
September 28, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. Awesome! Thanks for sharing. Keep up the work and start getting those scores even lower.
September 29, 2019
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Dale
I just signed up for the RST this week and after going through the weight shift section, core rotation and posting up I went out to hit balls trying to incorporate these skills.. My question, should I not be hitting balls and playing rounds until I go through all the repetitions without a club? Dale O
September 27, 2019
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John
Hi, Dale, see the video on the RST website: "Should You Play Golf While Learning Your New Swing?". Welcome to RST, it's been great for me. It's a ton of work, but all the RST "how we learn" material has also been correct for me, giving me proper expectations of what's required to re-form new movement patterns after 40+ years of playing my old way.... also see: "TRUTHS of Instruction - How the Brain Learns" and " How the Brain Learns New Movement Patterns - Part 5". I just a fellow RST member who has found that these videos answered this question nicely for me. Good luck and you'll like RST, I trust.
September 27, 2019
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John
Thanks Chuck Boot camp has been great. I am a 20 handicap for the last 3-4 years, but just shot 4 consecutive rounds in the 70’s. 79,75,74 and 73. JohnE
September 27, 2019
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Chuck
Ya John! That's what it's all about!
September 27, 2019
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Erwin
Hi guys, great work! One question and one remark: if I understand this correctly, al I actively do with my shoulders is turning them in the backswing. After that, everything my shoulders do is a passive result of the weight transition and the rotation of the hips, right? And my remark: you're almost there with the neutral terms of leading and following leg (instead of right and left leg which, as a lefty, are the opposite for me). Keep up the good work! Tomorrow I will be participating in the yearly lefty tournament here in the Netherlands. I can't wait to try al this... Kind regards, Erwin
September 27, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Erwin. Exactly. Shoulders are dead to you in the downswing. Yes. Opposite for you. We apologize for not using lead/trail. Good luck!
September 27, 2019
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Richard
I do fairly well getting to post up on left side if I barely have the right hand on the club. As soon as I use the right arm to fold and move up I have issues. Looking at the extreme side of using the right arm , if you use the right arm to control the club is it possible to achieve this move. I guess I am asking if the left side must be solely in control to do this.
September 27, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. Yes, the lead side must be in control. Lead hand is pull. Trail hand is push. You don't want the trailer over taking the truck going down the highway.
September 27, 2019
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Larry
It would be very helpful if you did the same three videos but now incorporated the club?
September 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Larry. Take a look at Dead Drill 5 Video .
September 26, 2019
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Bob
At what point is the post-up move complete? Where should the club shaft be at this exact moment in the downswing in relation to, say, the clock face, with impact being 6:00? Thanks for the video!
September 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bob. When the glutes are fully contracted, hips 35-45 degrees open and lead leg straight. The post up will clear and stall the hips. Take a look at Dead Drill 4 and 5 for you club visuals. Just goes into hyper details.
September 26, 2019
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Sam
Im sure you have been asked this before but where are is the video being taken. It's absolutely gorgeous
September 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Sam. Just outside Telluride, Co at our Academy in the mountains. Not our Florida location . Glad you enjoy the view!
September 26, 2019
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Shayne
Guys Thankyou for this great series of videos and a rotary swing Today I was practicing and hitting my 7 Iron 180 meters I’ve never hit the ball so accurately and powerfully as I did today it’s taken awhile for me to sync these movements but at last I’m seeing good results I’ve been persistent for the last 4 months doing the drills making so many mistakes swinging then the penny drops and the principles you guys teach starts coming together
September 25, 2019
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Chuck
Awesome Shayne! That's a BIG 7 iron!
September 25, 2019
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Shayne
Cheers will Keep you posted will swing my driver nexted week and will video my swing and forward to you soon
September 25, 2019
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Jack
If I was to stand in front of the mirror without setting up for a swing and then shift to my left side to joint knee alignment is this how far I would have to shift in the swing? It seems just standing and shifting to the left side then setting up for a swing and post up to match the same movement, is this how far we have to travel to post up?
September 25, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jack. If the stance width is matching normal setup then that is how far you would have to move.
September 25, 2019
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Michael
It would be incredibly helpful if all 3 of these DEAD drills were in the "Self Analysis" as models so we can compare our drills to Chuck's.
September 23, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. I will note this to the higher ups.
September 23, 2019
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Gratton
Great suggestion from Michael. This would be an awesome inclusion.
September 26, 2019
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mike
Great idea
September 25, 2019
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Stephen
Very Great Idea!
September 26, 2019
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John
Also agree, great idea.
September 26, 2019

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