Jack Nicklaus Putting - The SECRET

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The SECRET putting change Jack Nicklaus WISHED he had made to his game!

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Joseph
I have just spent three weeks working on the Rotary golf one handed (trail) arm and hand alone with putter, then chipping, etc. Total emphasis on right (trail) hand controlling the club face, including the putter face. Now I see this advising total opposite. No thanks !
November 13, 2024
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Chuck
This is for the lead side pattern, the other is for the trail side pattern
November 13, 2024
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Barbara
When I rock the shoulder blades back and through the putter moves at the end of the movement to the right and left side on a slight bow - but why should I also pull with the left hand, then the movement from the middle to the left sid will be a straight!
July 28, 2024
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Chuck
HI Barbara, that's interesting, I'd have to see it, but if you find that toning the movement down a little for you helps the putter track straighter that's perfectly ok
July 29, 2024
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Asle
When going over to LA low in putting, does that mean that we also should chip this way with an iron or could we keep our old putting style when chipping? Is is better to do this the same way in both cases or is that not so important after all?
March 6, 2024
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Asle. Chipping is optional. Some players switch to lead hand low to maintain same style/feel. But, this is unnecessary as some rotation in the club from standard grip will help keep the chip strike shallow.
March 6, 2024
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Jesse
Yesterday, I tried this new technique yesterday in my garage. It was strange at first, but I think I can get it controlled. I need to improve my putting so I can shoot my age (80) this next season. Question: I note that Jorden Spieth has his lower left hand higher on the club that what Chuck shows. Could you say more about the grip, or is it just a personal choice? I read also that some suggest an overlap of the left pinkie on the right index finger....Just want my set-up to be the correct as I start my 5000-8000 reps.
December 11, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jesse. Good luck with your goals this season to shoot your age! . It will be more a personal choice how far down, or whether you use reverse over lap grip (the pinky-index covering). Players that tend to get overly handsy like the reverse overlap because it take more trail hand interference off the club.
December 12, 2022
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Jesse
Thanks Craig for your quick response. I am also following your recovery series for tips on better execution on these new "pulling" techniques. I need to improve my swing techniques as my physical strength declines. I shot two rounds of 80 this past season and several rounds in the low 80's but couldn't' break through to the 70's. I'm hoping the many videos on the "puling" approach to the swing will help me prevail. One more follow-up question please---are the Rhomboid muscles used primarily in the putting swing? if so, which exercises are best to strengthen these muscles? I am currently doing band-rows and scapular wall stretch's but maybe I need more development for these key muscles?
December 12, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Mainly the rhomboid and lower fibers of the trapezius. If you type in the search RST Fitkit and One Armed Pulldown. Band exercises are great for that section of muscle groups.
December 12, 2022
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stephen
Jack Nicklaus was and is a wristy putter and most of the golfers I see including the pros who do all sorts of weird stuff to avoid being wristy, are very wristy so I agree with Chuck is trying to help them overcome it. However, the left-hand low is an unnecessary adaptation. Why not simply make the putting stroke a mini version of the full swing? Use a conventional putting grip, get putter head in the center of the body, center weight solidly on the left foot, then simply rotate those shoulder blades back and forth with the legs and body supporting and pulling the arms and hand which are passive back and forth and through. Think of a pendulum or grandfather clock tick tock and that's all there is to it. This approach also reinforces all the push v pull and full swing training elsewhee on the site. Why teach a wholly different animal of a swing?
May 9, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. You could take a wholistic approach to putting. But, putting can be finicky because of what really matters to make a put. Take a look at RotarySwing Natural Putting - Intro Video. This will help you understand what is important in the stroke. If the ball was in the center and weight pressed on the lead side I would fear hitting down on it too much. Maybe introducing a lot of movement which would hurt the overall repeatability.
May 10, 2021
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Robert
Do you recommend using a face balanced putter or a putter with toe hang for this type putting stroke?
February 28, 2021
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Manny (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert... Well, we all know by now that putting is the most individualistic aspect of golf in general. As a fitter, I am looking for my players to find a putter that fits them statically and dynamically. In saying that, matching up the stroke with the right putter style can be extremely beneficial. If you like to use a straight back, straight through method, a face-balanced putter would be a great choice. If your stroke works on a slight arc, a putter with moderate toe hang would be ideal, while those with more pronounced arcs in their stroke would benefit from even more toe hang. In most cases, regardless of hand position/ grip style, only through testing will you determine your stroke and matching putter. See a true fitter to help with that. So, a logical answer to your question may be "it depends". You must be open to explore what works best for "YOU". IMHO
February 28, 2021
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Tony
Hi, I tried practising with this left hand low grip on the putting green and found two things. First, on putts over 15 foot, I found that distance control seemed to be a problem and that the putts were short whereas with my 'normal' grip, they were OK. This might be because I just haven't adapted to the new grip yet. I found that I seemed to have less 'power' on longer 'backswing' for longer putts. Second, with a really weak grip for the right hand (I'm a righty), I felt the tendons on the inside of my forearm pulling uncomfortably. Any thoughts on where I may be going wrong?
September 5, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tony. You really have to concentrate of pulling with the shoulders. If you are getting tension excessively in trail, then you might still be over working that hand through the stroke. Distance control is the number one issue people tend to have when switching to lead hand low. It takes time to develop that feel because your dominant side you are so used to gauging distance with is less involved.
September 7, 2020
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Jim
Just put a bigger grip on my putter, flat front, no taper. Reverse now feels much better. Time to give it a go!
July 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. Should definitely minimize over active hands.
July 18, 2020
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Jim
What about the claw variations...I assume designed to do the same thing.? I am finding this easier to learn that left hand low which feels weak and weird thus far.
July 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. Chuck previously used a claw version style of putting. It is trying to achieve the same goal.
July 15, 2020
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Jim
What do you think of Bryson DeChambeau's method...bracing a longer putter against the left arm.. I find left hand low hard to adjust to.
July 14, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. Some players think it takes away a lot of feel. But, it can simplify the moving parts.
July 14, 2020
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Tony
Like the method.
March 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great Tony. Go make some putts!
March 23, 2020
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David
David G. This is awesome.....I have never struggled with putting or distance control, normally average in the high 20s per round, but my buddies always said my ball popped in the air off the face, now I know why, and I don’t make a lot of putts.....I miss a lot of greens and get up and down a lot.........but will love making more putts when I start hitting greens from my studies of the full swing....hope is back
July 15, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. Great David. Start rolling the rock!
July 15, 2019
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John
I'm having an issue putting left hand low with pulled put. One culprit appears to be that as my right wrist is fused from an injury, I can't created the angels as shown, and my right shoulder appears to protrude outside my left, setting up an out to in shoulder path. Any Recommendations? Something more like a claw grip may help?
June 18, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. The claw grip may help with the issue. You are in an awkward situation as the fuse won't let you set the trail arm positioning. I would try claw first to see if it allows your shoulders to square and then report back. You may have to use conventional grip to keep the trail shoulder from protruding as well.
June 18, 2019
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John
I managed to get my right shoulder level by having my right hand more “under” the club, slightly more of a weaker position than you are recommending. It’s working, but I get every other put pulled left. Would this mean the right hand is doing too much coming through?
June 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. It would either mean the trail hand is working too much through, trail shoulder push, or the shoulders are open at impact.
June 21, 2019
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John
Thanks, Craig!
June 19, 2019
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Jason
Hi, so this definitely makes a more consistent straight through and back, what I'm struggling with and I'm not sure if it's just a completely foreign move to by brain and body, but bringing the putter through impact feels extremely weak and unstable, as if my arm has no strength, having a hard time even keeping my left arm straight without wobbling and vibrating from the putter impacting the ball. What can be done to strengthen? Also does the left hand low require a longer backswing than the 25/75 concept? Seems if I only take it back 25% and through 75%, I end up having to stab at it to get distance and a smooth stroke.
April 6, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jason. The stroke length should be a little more balanced back and through. You sound like you need to get the balance a little closer to 50/50. Your method is more like pop putting. I've never had to teach strengthening exercises for the lead arm to make this move work correctly. I would think that you are tending to make it too much arm dominance without letting the shoulders dictate the stroke. The trail may still be interfering into impact.
April 6, 2019
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Jason
I guess the way to describe it is, when the putter makes contact my left arm feels like it's been jolted by the impact and I feel like I cant get through to the follow through smoothly, lots of uncessary movement after impact. could be this because it's so foreign and I'm going against 40yrs of doing it another way. Perhaps I just need to continue stroking putts?
April 6, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jason. It could be years of being used to the older movement pattern. In the beginning, there will be some new struggles and sensations. I would start with making sure you have enough pressure in the last 3 fingers to not lose control and with shorter type putts.
April 6, 2019
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Joel
Hi again! Does it make sense for you guys to invent a putting target that has 3 sensors ( left miss, right miss and dead on) so that it adds up if we miss more to the left or right? Then when we know if we miss more to one side then we can go and search up the causes of it (fixes would be in the fundamentals in putting provided by you guys) Just an idea!
February 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joel. Thanks for the idea. Understanding where your predominant miss is with putting would definitely help with diagnosing some cause/effect with your stroke.
February 21, 2019
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Joel
HI Craig! I read through the comments and haven't seen this question yet so here it goes; I'm having problems feeling my back muscles... should I do specific back exercises to develop those muscle in order to feel them more? Does it just develop over time? Thanks!
February 18, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joel. They will develop over time. You don't need to be Mr. Universe to engage the proper muscles. The more you have hyper focus on using the shoulder blades and core. You will start to gain the proper awareness.
February 19, 2019
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Joel
Thanks Craig!
February 19, 2019
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Ronan
Hi, What about leaning a little bit forward the face of the putter? I've noticed that i roll the ball better this way... Ronan
February 9, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ronan. You would typically want to shy away from forward press as it would tend to make you hit down on the ball at impact. Causing the ball to bounce/rebound off the ground.
February 9, 2019
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David
How many videos about Jack’s way of putting are there? I see the same 3.
November 2, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. There should be 11 Videos in the catalog for you to view.
November 2, 2018
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michael
chuck you have me on another venture with this reverse hand putting.... feels pretty awkward. Just a boat load of pendulum swings? Feels somewhat smooth- considering the radical adjustment, short putting is somewhat working- longer putts seem to feel like there is no strength for the length of the putt... Welcome any in put....
July 13, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. Changing to lead hand low takes an adjustment. Early on I can understand why longer putts would feel challenging regarding pace. Sadly, not a lot of tricks, but proper mechanics and practice. Your pace will get better with time doing the move correctly.
July 13, 2018
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Mike
Since the goal of left hand low seems to be to take the trail hand influence out of the putting stroke, does it matter how you grip the club with the trail hand? Why wouldn't a claw grip or pencil grip be just as effective?
April 13, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mike. You may use those grips if you prefer.
April 13, 2018
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Ken
I suppose if the best golfer ever says so, I can give it a try. I'm a decent putter, but if I can shave 4 or 5 shots off my score, I'll be thrilled. Totally makes sense the way you relate it, Chuck.
January 17, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ken. Thanks for the post. Appreciate the positive comments on Chuck's presentation.
January 17, 2018
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Alan
Interesting, seems putting with a left handed putter (assuming you are right handed), would accomplish the same thing. Is this true?
September 20, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. Yes, the same premise could be applied.
September 21, 2017
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T David
This technique in putting has really helped my putting. One thing that Chuck doesn't discuss in the video is the ball position. Since the left arm and club shaft is as straight as possible (minimal angles), I have followed the natural flow of placing the ball just behind the left toe. Is this correct?
August 5, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. It will be in front of the sternum about the logo of the shirt. The goal is getting the ball placed to allow for the straighter lead arm position.
August 5, 2017
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Diarmuid
What is your grip strength? Is it the same as full swing? 2-4. Also do you use a light grip pressure for chipping?
July 26, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Diarmuid. Yes, around a 2-4. You need enough to hold onto the club, but not allow for over steerage. Light pressure when chipping as well.
July 26, 2017
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William
Chuck, as a fellow left brained person, (analytical,logical) I love RST and for the first time the golf swing make sense to me. So I watched the first 4 videos on putting. Which really is what you teach for the full swing. SOOOO why don't we swing a club left hand low?? If we want the left side to be dominant? Thanks Bill
April 30, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bill. You technically could do that. However, both arms do have a role in the swing. If you were to use that type of setup/grip. It would inhibit some of the power transfer you could add from the trail side into the strike. It would mainly get too passive.
May 1, 2017
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T David
Fantastic! I first listened to this video and thought it to be a bit radical until I tried it last night in my living room. So much better with control in the line. Planning on trying to get out today and try it out on the practice greens. Two questions... How to control distance? Is it with the length of the backstroke or the speed of the stroke? (I usually try to keep an even back and forth stroke by timing it (1,2,3 (back) and 1,2,3 through). Not sure if this is good. Comments? And finally, has Chuck anyone thought about using this stroke for short chips off the fringe? Sorry for all the questions... Just a bit exciting about this new technique (new to me).
April 23, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. Usually, you don't want to start racing or changing the timing too much in the stroke. Good tempo and a little added length. Make sure not to decelerate. A few of our students have used this approach in their short game. It can work with practice. Some have really good success with it.
April 23, 2017
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Marc
Hi I have a question on the grip. I understand that the left grip should be weaker when putting left hand low but what about the position of the grip in the hand itself. Should the grip be more in the fingers like the normal grip (from the base of the little finger to the second phalange of the index finger) or more in the palm (from the base of the index finger to the palm)? Best, Marc
March 15, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marc. It will tend to be weaker and a little more in the lifeline of the palm.
March 15, 2017
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Daniel
If you putt left hand low and connect your hands, would it be ideal to have the lifeline of the left hand on top of the right thumb then (as long as right thumb straight down the shaft)?
November 2, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Daniel. You could use that method. But, you have to watch out for the trail hand becoming too dominant. If you still feel the lead hand can be the dominant force from there. Should be fine.
November 2, 2017
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Billy
Hi there, can I as about the handle of the putter. Do the hands stay in the center of the swing both back and through swing. I have been told that the handle must point to the bellybutton at all times. By the way left hand low is great. Thanks
March 5, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Billy. The butt end won't be pointing exactly to the belly button through the stroke. But, will stay more or less pointed at your body.
March 6, 2017
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Kathy
Wow! What a difference this made! This came very natural to me as I was born to be a "lefty" but the school system would not allow it, when on my own I would continued to be a lefty. So I can golf left or right handed......I decided to golf right handed as there are more equipment options (0:
February 13, 2017
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Caleb
I thought the transition would be difficult; but because I have a Cure putter which is adjustable for lie (and weight), I was able to get it dialed in pretty fast. At one point I made 7 in a row from all distances, from 20 to 5 feet. I was actually amazed how easy it was to adapt. I am left handed, but play right, so maybe that has something to do with it, but I am going to commit to left hand low
November 30, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Caleb. Great. Start rolling the rock!
December 1, 2016
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Curt
This video, with its related videos, has been an instant improvement in the quality, and quantity, of my putting. I almost instantly making solid, firm rolls with more going in or leaving tap-ins. Speed control takes some practice, but seems easier to control, for me, with rocking shoulders rather than moving hands and/or arms. As good as the swing process is, I wish it was as easy as this to see results. Great work.
November 29, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Curt for the compliments. Chuck and the team very much appreciate them.
December 1, 2016
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Tom
Hello Excellent teaching What putter HEAD DESIGN do you recommend What LENGTH of the putter shaft do you recommend Tom Lawson Columbus Ohio thomaswlawson@gmail.com
November 27, 2016
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Chuck
I prefer a face balanced mallet since switching to left hand low
November 29, 2016
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Hans
In Clay's "Golf Putting Grip" video, he goes into detail about aligning the square edges of the grip with the life line that runs through the middle of the palm. I think he also recommends very light pressure on the putter so that the putter can lag a little bit as the swing transitions from backwards to forwards ("flow very freely" in Perfect Putting Technique). It looks like grip setup is similar, but the pressure is more firm with the left/lead and the putter head is not allowed to flow quite a freely (if at all). With those 2 videos in mind, what specifically changes in the grip setup & pressure in this technique? Thanks!
November 26, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hans. The grip setup will be very similar. You will tend to feel more pressure in the lead hand. You shouldn't try to make one hand feel more pressure than the other, but it will have a touch more being the dominant figure. The stroke should flow freely. However, since the lead wrist is more in a locked position you won't have the lag feel as you would in a conventional stroke.
November 29, 2016
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Chuck
You can still be soft with the putting grip, it needn't change
November 29, 2016
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gordon
Based on this new series I am experimenting with left hand low and, so far, the results are impressive. I will therefore continue but to make sure I have not misunderstood something I would appreciate clarification on the left arm. Should this be really as straight as possible (which would require a very upright stance) or is the intention to prevent the bowed elbows which allow, quote, all kinds of goofy things? At the end of the video is a down the line view but unfortunately the all-important left arm is in the background. Nevertheless it did look like the elbow was benr a little, but perpendicular to and not along the target line. In addition to allowing a less upright stance this bending of the left arm would facilitate bringing the arms in towards the chest, emphasising the big muscle power source rather than an arm-driven putt swing, as recommended. By the way Craig, I am really trying to relax, relax, relax to overcome right side dominance in just about all my golf shots! Regards, Gordon.
November 23, 2016
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Chuck
The arm should not be ramrod straight, a little flex is necessary as you noted. In some of the other videos there is video of me hitting a putt face on where you can see this more clearly.
November 23, 2016
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Alan
Where do you play the ball on your stance
November 19, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. It will be in front of the sternum about the logo of the shirt. The goal is getting the ball placed to allow for the straighter lead arm position.
November 20, 2016
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Alan
Thanks
November 20, 2016
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Ian
Many thanks Chuck for the access. Your long time members and supporters appreciate this.
November 19, 2016
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Phil
Chuck, I have been wondering for some time why the lead scapula has not been discussed on the downswing of the full swing???
November 18, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Phil. The Lead Scapula/Arm is discussed briefly in the LADD Video. Since the downswing is mostly lower half dominated. When we start talking about the lead scapula coming down. Most players start over using is and open the shoulders too early.
November 20, 2016
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Ryan
Any good tips/ideas on speed control using Left Hand low?
November 18, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Practice is the best way for speed. I apologize that we don't have a shortcut or better tip.
November 20, 2016
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Charles
This is great video series on putting. I have switched to the left hand low for putting ever since joining RST last year, and finally get rid of my putting yips using the left hand dominant putting stroke. However, one thing I could not explain well is that for normal swing, I hold left hand high, which controls the swing as well, while for putting, left hand low controls the putting stroke. In other words, why it does not make sense to control the putting stroke using left hand high?
November 17, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charles. Making the Lead Hand Low helps eliminate variables. Most amateurs in their full swing and putting stroke tend to over use the trail hand. Making this setup adjustment allows the trail hand variable to almost disappear. Simplifying which one should be dominant.
November 20, 2016
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Charles
Additional comments here. Does it really matter which hand is high or low? What really matters is which hand dominates the swing/stroke. The essence of the RST for most amateurs is to learn and train to be the lead side dominant, even though a golfer grips the club correctly (lead hand high on the grip). If we agree that the lead hand should be in a dominant position in putting, then where the trail hand on the club is may not matter too much, because it remains passive and assistant. Both hands need to coordinate and agree with the dominant and passive roles. That's part of the training process. If we use the same tail hand position for everything we do, I wonder it will benefit all parts of the game. For instance, I use the putting strike motion for some chipping shots. I am not trying to challenge Jack's comment, by the way-
November 19, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charles. You are correct. The essence of RST is to train and be dominant with the lead side. I still use conventional setup, but still dominate with my lead because I have never had the trail side issue. Jack and this series are only trying to simplify the most important aspect of the game. Getting the ball in the hole!
November 20, 2016
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John
Now that you opened this up to annual members I hope I get reimbursed.
November 17, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. If you haven't been reimbursed. Contact Customer Service and we will take care of it.
November 17, 2016
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Phil
Chuck, Thanks for responding to our concerns.
November 17, 2016
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Jesus
Thanks for opening this up to annual members.
November 17, 2016
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