Live Lesson - How to Fix Your Arms by Fixing Your Legs in the Backswing

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Do you struggle with your arms getting too deep or too disconnected during the backswing? Did you know that the problem may not be your arms at all! Watch how I fix this student's arm position at the top of his backswing without focusing on his arms at all! It's RotarySwing magic!

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Diane
Another great lesson. I've also been working on the sequence of movement and in particular the rotation. I focus on moving weight to right while keeping arms straight in the takeaway as in this lesson, this is definitely a hip turn, but I try to keep it passive, more a consequence of loading into the right side. I then think of the rotation travelling up the spine until near the top, the shoulder blade glide completes the shoulder turn as the arms elevate. Is this the correct kinetic sequence for rotation? It feels like it is because it's then much easier to start the transition, and separate the two rotations i.e. lower body squatting to square while shoulders still finishing the backswing. When I get it right, I get a much better strike. Just wanted to check my understanding on this.
May 24, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Diane. The shoulders will be moving more than you think in the takeaway because you want 45 degrees by the time the club is parallel to the ground. So, as long as you still rotate the core and have the upper half rotation off the ball it sounds like you could be on the right track.
May 25, 2020
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john
That posture change really straightened out my shots. I feel I hit the ball better and straighter this morning but lacked distance. I lost some weight over the winter (30 pounds). Could that make a difference? I normally am able to hit my 8-iron 140 yards or so but was at least 10 yards short of that today. It was a bit cool (60) and the course is still soft but still ... I really want that effortless power!
May 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. That shouldn’t make that much difference. More than likely there is a power leak somewhere else.
May 22, 2020
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john
Hi Craig: Yes I realized after the fact that shouldn't be an issue. Any suggestions on how to figure out this power leak? I will try to take video of my latest swing. I'm sure that would help.
May 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. Video will confirm the issue for sure. Diagnose from inside out. Check body positions and then out the to club. I'm sure something simple you are over looking.
May 23, 2020
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Ton
I know my hips doesn't get turned enough to get coiled up correctly but my armes normally don't get deep but my right elbow tends to fly away and I swing too long and across. Does this video apply to this issue the same way? Thanks, Ton
May 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ton. Yes. But, if you are just losing the elbow a bit at the top. Take a look at 2. Overview: Fix Overswing/Across-the-Line Swing Video.
May 22, 2020
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Barry
To my friends that are confused: Jason has a hip turn issue in the back swing is the quite the opposite of most of the rest of us. Most of us way...overturn the hips in the back swing. So, as you've noted, Chuck says to the masses, just rotate your torso during the takeaway and then let your hips get turned....But, Jason's hips were not turning enough. He knows where the club needs to be at the top, so since his hips weren't turning enough, he had trained his arms to swing more up and across his body to get them where he wanted them to be at the top. Chuck is trying to get him to "unlock" his hips by turning them at first so that he will see in the mirror that his arms don't need to swing as much to get the club where he knows he wants it to go. Remember Chuck said to take a look at his FO Facebook swing? It literally looks like Chucks arms, wrists and hands are in a comma. I asked him if he was trying to do less with the arms in the takeaway (i.e., less than tiny bit of wrist cock and tiny bit of elevation). He said, "as little as humanly possible." Try it. The momentum of the club will finally make the trail arm bend (flexion) at the top, just like Chuck. But, you can't get that done if the torso AND the hips aren't turning. That's what Chuck is working on with Jason. HEY JASON, your transition, post up already look awesome!
May 21, 2020
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Chuck
Nailed it! Go to the front of the class!
May 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great post Barry. Appreciate the information to help our members.
May 22, 2020
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Jonathan
Best. Lesson. Ever. Pretty much entire swing in one lesson minus the release. Thank you!!!!
May 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Jonathan. Glad you enjoyed.
May 22, 2020
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Tom
This video was very helpful for me. Although I can easily achieve a good backswing position I never felt coiled and when I would play my backswing was the weak link that would break first. Today, with the idea of moving my hip first to load up on my right side, I played nine excellent holes of golf with a backswing that never failed me. Tomorrow I will be sending my swing in for review by my URG instructor, Craig Morrow. I am confident that he will be pleased. Thank you for sharing this very insightful lesson.
May 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. Great! But, you know I am never satisfied .
May 22, 2020
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David
I think I'm exactly the opposite as William and Kevin. Watching this lesson helped me immensely. I had this massive shoulder turn in my backswing but never felt as if my legs were ever loaded up and ready to unwind or fire. My upper body was over-torqued and so I was not only swinging with my shoulders but my hips were also way too fast in the downswing. When I concentrate on only turning my hips in the backswing and allow my upper body to follow I can FINALLY feel like I'm loaded from the ground up. I can't wait to hit some balls now and see how much my contact improves. I do understand why Kevin and William are confused but for me...this was money!!!
May 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great David.
May 22, 2020
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Kevin
I'm with Bill … a bit confused. Using the hip turn to start/power the takeaway and backswing instead of the hands has helped reduce tension in my arms/hands and keeps my hands in front. Great! But, now it appears that i am not getting a full backswing. And what about shoulder blade glide/pulling back the trail shoulder? I noticed you mentioned the student was not using his hips enough. Should it ideally be a combo of both, hip turn with shoulder blade glide to get to a full backswing? Thanks!
May 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. The core/shoulder blade glide absolutely move the club. The lesson is more player specific about getting too rigid and over using arm swing. Chuck was trying to relay you need to allow the body to move, or you will keep over using arms/hands.
May 22, 2020
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William
I’m a little confused with the takeaway instructions in this video versus the instructions in other videos and the instructor’s manual. In this lesson video you say that the takeaway starts by turning the hips to get the club to parallel with the ground, and other videos (and the book) the hips should barely move (if at all) to get the club to the point where it is parallel to the ground. In these cases, the obliques and right shoulder glide are responsible for taking the club to that point. Can you please clear that up for me? Thank you, Bill
May 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bill. This is more player specific in the video. Jason locks his lower half excessively and can't feel how much he overuses his arms/hands in the backswing. The goal for Chuck was to show him how much he was swinging them too much versus letting the body dictate the motion.
May 22, 2020
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Greg
Hi Craig. I understand that this is player-specific, but if you're properly pulling your right shoulder back, wouldn't your hips go with it? Or is that the tail wagging the dog? I think I tend to keep my hips more rigid too and sometimes bring the arms deep (and stand up). I've lately been very focused on starting everything with the weight shift and then shoulders to keep the arms from coming across/deep, which seems to help. But would focusing on the hips help provide even more ability to sit into the right side and make a fuller turn?
May 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Greg. Absolutely. The trail shoulder will start to pull the hips in the backswing. But, some players really strive for the x factor and kill them too much. Take a look at My Golf Backswing Secrets. You can see how much just some simple weight and rotation will move the club. Focus on letting the hips get pulled and rotate. Not restricting them so much you have to arm the backswing.
May 23, 2020
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