Why You DON'T Pull the Butt of the Club Toward the Ball
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Have you ever heard you should pull the butt of the club toward the golf ball in the downswing? In this lesson, you'll learn why that advice can leave you wanting to quit the game!
Speaker 1:
So for around, I started doing your, you know, the elevation right rotation and flection type thing, seeing where it should be coming over here and rather than try and move the body to get the club there, cause that wasn't working.
I was basically just lifting it up, right.
Definitely much better impact.
You know, it was killing my three-word.
I can hit it to 60 to 70 like that, but sometimes it would get a little crazy, the better I hit it I'd noticed the less I was moving.
It was just literally just kind of pulling this back, getting this up here and letting it fire.
I know that's not the right way to swing, but I can't seem to do it.
And I feel like I'm getting maybe too wide in the back swing and that's where I'm losing it, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:
Cause you don't have a lot of time to accelerate it, right? If you're swinging only to here, that's why you feel like you're chasing the club around, right.
Cause you got to get it going fast.
And so your swing will start to kind of feel a little out of at times where you feel like you're chasing the club head because you're just having to Huck it so hard from the top so soon.
And so that's problem.
Number one, when you, when you're doing that, the swing feels fast and it feels a little out of control, but you know that sometimes you can put the bat on the ball because at least your swing is fewer moving parts, right? That that's part of the key.
But then as you get older too, and you lose some strength and flexibility, which we're all going to do, right?
Speaker 2:
But the reality is with this super important in the swing, because it not only buys you the time to get everything in your body to move correctly in the right sequence.
But it also is free speed, the wider, the swing arc that you create, the faster that club moves, right? So when you start going to being really short, compact, and powerful versus wide and using a lot of, you know, a lot of muscles to do things versus relying on just your arms and hands, the swing will feel different for sure.
But the trick is that's where efficiency really comes in, is learning how to move your body.
Not trying to move the arms, to create with not trying to make the club be wide, but literally width is actually just a matter of not doing hardly anything with your arms at all.
That's the truth of it.
Most people think of trying to create this big wide swing and they start moving their head off the ball or trying to extend their arms and then their arms are disconnected from their rib cage.
And so now, yeah, like I'm really wide, but this feels terrible.
The reality is if I'm going to be really wide, I'm just not going to move my arms at all.
And that's a very wide takeaway, but all I did, literally, if I go back to address, it's almost exactly where it was,
Speaker 1:
What you described making these shorter swings and what you showed me was kind of not really turning and just loading up your arms and your hands are pretty low.
So you lose a lot of leverage, right? That's a really narrow swing.
And so then when you make a narrow swing, you need a lot of muscular force from your arms to try and make up for that lack of width in your swing.
But at the end of the day, students always want to win.
And that wider swing is always going to be more efficient for speed and power.
So,
Speaker 1:
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I promise.
Okay.
Speaker 2:
Out here.
Right.
Right.
Right.
So just the tiniest
Speaker 2:
Yes, yes.
Right.
And it feels it, especially with the driver.
When I, you know, when I get back here, I have no clue where the club faces no clue.
It feels like it's gone all the way behind me pointing back towards that.
Right.
This
Speaker 2:
In trouble.
Okay.
We go for, we do the, the exercise, just one other thing.
So in, in some of the videos that you had, you talk about the, the proper setup, right.
And that being the shoulder blades kind of in and down, right.
More like this, and the problem is right, because I guess a fairly large lats, I used to lift weights when I was younger.
And so that's not happening.
Right.
If I'm in a down I'm crushing my chest to get there.
Yeah.
So what do I do? Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's pretty good there.
Okay.
So let's, let's go
Speaker 2:
Well, if you saw my scores, you would feel very desperate.
Speaker 2:
That's right there.
Okay.
Do you see your right arm is kind of buried? I can't really see.
Yep.
Okay.
So when we look at this from down the line, it'll start to make more sense, but ideally we would see a little gap.
We'd be able to see daylight between those forms.
Now, why does that matter? Because it's understanding how your arms are moving in sync with your body.
So I'll look at this more when we go down the line, but this is just one little indicator.
When we're starting to see a lot of left arm role, that the right arm will disappear very early and you can see there.
It's completely gone.
Yeah, that's right.
So now we're swinging that left arm across the body.
Quite a bit.
You make a good turn, but now we've got the lower body is a little out of whack here.
Speaker 2:
So there the left.
So the logo on your shirt would be completely disappeared at this point.
This is just a little bit of a left arm swing, but again, not nearly as bad as you think, a little loose at the top.
And then the arms fire.
This is very, this is why your scores don't reflect where you should be.
This shaft is very steep.
Keep at this point, it's going to come down a little bit over the top.
I should quite a bit over the top right there.
Yep.
And then yeah, pretty jammed up at impact and then released.
So this swing is not nearly as bad as you think it is.
Speaker 1:
It's going to sound bad at first, but really what you have is some very basic stuff.
If you, if you forgot everything in the golf swing in general for a second, and you just thought about what's going on with the club, the club is coming down a little bit over the, quite a bit over the top and steep.
Okay.
So when you have a steep swing, you need something to shallow that out.
So that's what you need to start with.
What are things that you're doing that are causing you to get steep? Typically when you're steep, it's because the shoulders are turning or the arms are fire and too soon from the top.
And when you do that, the reason is the important thing.
And that's what I want to understand.
If you start swinging steep and over the top in your firing your arms, it's because your body doesn't feel like it's giving you the power that it needs, right?
Speaker 2:
Cause they're doing more than they need to, for sure.
But I don't want to get you caught up in a bunch of like technical stuff with the backswing.
I want you to feel what it feels like to use your body powerfully.
So stand up for me and I want you to start to feel this.
And we're going to focus on using the left side of our body, both our left hip and our left oblique, even your latch, you're going to feel.
And that all I want you to do is as you go back, I want you to take this whole part of your body and use it to pull your hip back and pull your body and arms down into impact.
You're just going to focus on pulling from this left side.
Okay.
So go ahead and make like a little back soon.
Don't think about it.
Good.
Relax the shoulder.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Okay.
So I should feel like very loose.
Don't worry about the left arm and just let the hips do the work.
Exactly.
And I want you to
Speaker 2:
It's still pulling that arm down really fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel it.
Speaker 2:
Alright, watch me for just a second.
Do you have an impact bag by chance? I do.
All right.
So this is going to help us a lot.
So as you're coming down, what you're doing right now is you're doing a great job of turning your hips and shifting, but your arm is being pulled down.
Your arm does not work like that in the golf swing.
You don't try and take your arm and pull it down this way.
That's a death move.
Okay? So down your arm is actually going to stay.
It's going to move.
It's literally going to fall, right? You're not trying to ever move the butt of the club toward the ball.
That's what's good.
Speaker 1:
Okay.
So all that done does is gets the shafts steep, but it also keeps the face open.
The face has to be allowed to rotate and it can't rotate like this, it just deed with the hozzle.
Yes.
Speaker 1:
What you're going to do is as you start to shift to the left, your hands, just going straight back this way, it's just falling down.
And that's what allows you to swing from the inside.
Move that impact bag back to where it would be at impact where the ball would be.
Don't try and pull the club down, let it hang out.
All right.
So let's take a quick look at that.
It's not perfect yet, but it's better.
You'll see a big difference.
So
Speaker 1:
So your shaft before was up here through your trap.
Yep.
And now it's dropped down on plane and you can play golf from there.
All of this was caused by you trying to yank your left arm down to try and produce power.
Surely the opposite is true of what you actually want to do in the swing that left arm is not strong enough to produce any real power.
Anyway.
So even there, like you tried to pull it down a little bit steep, but you still got away with it.
It was better.
Yeah.
Let me show you just a quick example so you can have a good visual in your head.
All right.
Okay.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely.
Cause I'm trying to yank that club out of the way.
Exactly.
Right.
Right.
Speaker 2:
Because that's what I thought I was supposed to do.
I'm sorry.
I've been working on this for a long time.
The good
Speaker 2:
Something about that.
So it feels difficult to, to do what you're saying, but it almost sounds like, so when you come up, it's almost like the handset to stay there.
Be very soft.
And then at the very end, just let it sort of snap.
Speaker 2:
Yes.
Yep.
Understood.
Relax the arm even more
Speaker 2:
You real quick.
Yep.
I know.
I understand.
So it's really about keeping that chest pointed to you as long as possible, relaxed and use the hips
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Mentally, I guess I I think that's where all the power and the speed comes from, but that's not right, right.
It should exactly.
Speaker 2:
I felt it tight up, but yet you felt it.
Yeah.
It's tough.
It's tough when you spend your whole life thinking, that's how you get power, right? Exactly.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely.
That's amazing.
It's way more than you think shoulders are still open there.
You're killing me
Speaker 2:
You're talking like eight miles an hour.
Free speed.
That's less effort by just not trying to muscle it.
So as you come, as you go to the top of your swing, what I want you to start to do is get this shoulder out a little bit so that it's already, you don't want to have this shoulder pulled back in.
Cause then that's going to make you steep.
Okay.
Watch what, as I let my shoulder protract and get wider.
And then as I just use my hips to bring the club down, I'm trying to keep this shoulder out.
I'm trying to keep it protracted this way.
Interesting arc wide.
And then as I come down, watch what happens to the club.
Now my shoulders are nice and closed and my shoulders relaxed.
Speaker 1:
Exactly, this part is turning for sure.
And getting
Speaker 1:
Exactly.
That's why
Speaker 1:
Absolutely is.
It needs now some people, the reason I don't talk a lot about that is because we have most of our golfers who are higher handicap guys who just shoved their left shoulder like this, right? Yeah.
But you have the opposite.
You've got to let that shoulder protract, you've got to let your hips move the shoulders down at impact.
And then as long as the shoulder still out, you'll have all the width in the world and it will shallow out your swing plane.
Speaker 1:
Eat is coming from your arm, the muscles in your arms and shoulders being soft.
They can move way faster when they're soft.
So you're moving them with your hips and your core, these big muscles.
And so you're just trying to get speed.
Right? So if I don't, I don't, I can keep my shoulders totally relaxed the whole time.
Speaker 1:
From my core and my hips.
But my shoulders were totally chilled out.
Got it.
That's all that's going on in your swing, right? So you have to, that's going to be a big change, but it's a huge step in the right.
Cause that's gonna start to adjust your swing plane.
When your swing plane is that steep, you've got no shot.
There's no way you can play consistent golf.
So let's do this first.
You get comfortable with this and then let's stack some more pieces on there.
Cause, but you've got really good stuff going on, but this is going to be a game changer for you to not feel ripping this arm down.
Right.
And start just letting your arms swing and your shoulders stay more relaxed in this left shoulder.
We're being protracted.
Speaker 1:
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