Why You DON'T Pull the Butt of the Club Toward the Ball

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Have you ever heard you should pull the butt of the club toward the golf ball in the downswing? In this lesson, you'll learn why that advice can leave you wanting to quit the game!

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Asle
What is a protracted Left shoulder at impact like? As opposed to what?
December 23, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Asle. A retracted lead shoulder will typically look like open shoulders at impact. You don't want to motor/power the swing by pulling the club hard with lead shoulder/arm.
December 23, 2022
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rickey
Great video but I think a key point in teaching this drill is being missed. Look at Chuck's impact bag hit and then the students. The student's bag is rotating clockwise, he is outside in. Chucks bag is rotating counter clockwise, he is inside out, which is in large part due to the protracted shoulder Trying to get the bag rotating properly would help the student get into the proper impact position.
July 25, 2021
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Jack
Watching this lesson with Mr. Scheinvar was like having my own personal lesson. His initial swings looked exactly like what I've seen on far too many videos. Thank you Chuck and thanks to Mr. Scheinvar. He's very much a younger version of me with regard to size and build. I can completely empathize with him as I've been doing things wrong for 20+ years based on other instruction. Chuck's comment about getting away with an arm swing when you're younger that won't hold up when you're older was dead on for me. I've been down so many rabbit holes it's embarrassing.
July 10, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jack. Great. Keep improving the move and happy you are enjoying the live lessons.
July 11, 2020
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Kevin
I could relate to several shoulder-related issues here, so this was great for me! One question, I have been working on the Left Arm Only drill, and thinking about pulling my left arm down, rather than spinning/ripping my left shoulder open. Does that still apply? Is it a combination of hip/core rotation and pulling the left arm down?
July 9, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. Combination of hip/core/lat and gravity.
July 10, 2020
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Tom
Keep your left shoulder protracted??? Really? This was news to me so I reviewed a bunch of earlier videos and sure enough Chuck's left shoulder is always protracted at impact. I think this concept deserves more press in the RST videos. I have been working to implement it and found that it resolved numerous issues for me. I can now easily arrive at a fully posted position with closed, relaxed shoulders ready to let the club zing through impact. Thank you for this excellent explanation of how to chill out your arms so your body can do the work.
July 9, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. Great. I am glad this was the key to help get you consistently shallow.
July 10, 2020
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Ron
Besides the DEAD drill, the most important information that I have ever received on the golf swing
July 8, 2020
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Ron
Craig, I have always thought about staying “connected” with my lead upper arm pinned to my chest. This upper arm protraction has made a huge difference to me no longer being so steep on the downswing and being “cramped up” at impact. I am now much shallower coming down and I actually have much longer follow through. Love it, keep up the great work
July 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Ron. That means a lot to us here!
July 8, 2020
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Ron
Craig, at one point in the lesson Chuck points out that Tiger’s left arm is protracted from the top just down to impact. When do you start this left arm protraction? After the takeaway? From the very beginning of the takeaway through the end of the backswing? Also, do the arms feel like they are dropping straight down at the beginning of the transition? I think that I really need this piece to shallow and flatten out my downswing plane, which is now too steep.
August 26, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ron. The lead arm start to protract slightly as you finish the backswing when you are finishing your turn. You can see this in the Left Shoulder Push in Backswing Video. Yes. It will feel like the hands are falling vertically straight down.
August 26, 2020
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Ron
Craig, I am pretty ambidextrous and can do things pretty well with both sides of my body. I could never get rid of my over the top move because I believed it was caused by being right side dominate at the beginning of the downswing. Now I can see in watching my videos that I am really ripping the club down with my left arm believing that’s where my speed will come from. Is relaxing the left arm the key to stop this excessive pulling motion? Chuck also mentions letting the arms drop down when starting the transition.
August 3, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ron. For sure that is what you need. Very patient and relaxed with the chest and lead arm in transition.
August 3, 2020
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Bill
Every time I watch one of these "live" lessons, I learn something new...It's so great that Chuck is consistent in his methodology, focusing on the core, and good things will happen. Thank-you! Bill
July 8, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bill. Thanks. No quick tips, or bandaid fixes here.
July 8, 2020
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Gregory
Tiger looks so deep in video. Shouldn’t we keep hands/club in center of chest throughout the backswing? Left arm against chest is only created through weight shift, core rotation, clearing hips?
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gregory. The hands will have to cross centerline a little bit as the trail arm folds (over the trail shoulder with the hands). Spinning too much in the downswing will get the lead arm pressed against the chest coming down.
July 7, 2020
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Thomas
Great video Chuck. I too was taught to bring the butt of the club towards the ball. No wonder I am coming over the top consistently. These lesson videos are so enlightening. Thank you so much for your insights!
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Thomas. Our Pleasure.
July 7, 2020
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Donlee
This lesson struck a chord with me as well. I struggle with timing of dropping my hands straight down and getting back of glove toward ball thru transition into post up and release. I am struggling with consistency and recognize my bad swings always involve tension and/or over active arms, but I feel like I am nailing the positions in my drills. ????
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Donlee. Tension is most definitely a top swing killer. Do less!
July 7, 2020
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David
Chuck i have heard you talk how long people are off golf injured every year. It is very frustrating. Now i think i know why my traps are so sore 2-3 days after playing. I think this might just be what i have been doing wrong.
July 7, 2020
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Chuck
Pretty common to yank down with that left arm
July 7, 2020
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Shayne
Great video guys there where nuggets in this video Thdnks my swing coming good relax those shoulders is key for me and have that feeling of keeping my shoulders closed but relaxed and the Left shoulder Retracted awesome stuff here going to the range know keep you posted
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Shayne. Keep us posted. Great things ahead for you.
July 7, 2020
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James
Wow....I just had an “ah-ha” moment just like he did when Chuck was explaining how the shoulder and arms should work to produce a shallower swing plane. I also was taught to bring the butt of the club to the ball by an instructor awhile ago. These one-on-one instructional videos are the best! Keep posting these Chuck!
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks James. Happy you like!
July 7, 2020
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Bill
Chuck, This video was me; I quit golf weekly and sometimes daily for all the usual reasons. The game changer was watching How The Brain Learns! That was the epiphany! Thousands of dollars on lessons but nothing about why I was not improving. I haven’t done as many repetitions as need to but I do now have as sense of purpose and positive attitude, all thanks to you!!! Thank you!!! Bill Swink
July 7, 2020
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Chuck
Another one saved from fishing!
July 7, 2020
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Ken
Another gem of a lesson. Not sure it's going to be an over night change for Stephen because of how long he's used the "rectangle" instead of the lower box, but it is the answer.
July 7, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ken. Glad you enjoyed the lesson. Lots of gems in there.
July 7, 2020
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Robert James
Chuck, I know this question has nothing to do with this video, but how long do you think Bryson De. can last on tour without a major back problem? He certainly has developed 30# of muscle in his upper body and looks like Popeye.
July 7, 2020
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Chuck
I've never looked much at his swing so I couldn't say. What little I've seen is that he doesn't have much side bend which is a great start, but I'd really have to look at it in slo mo to see
July 7, 2020
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