1.3 The GOAT Grip

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The correct golf grip is perhaps the most important fundamental in all of golf to get right. Gripping the club like the GOAT will make it easier to square the face consistently and allow you to apply more force to the club to hit it farther without losing control.

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Chester
My fingers are very short. I wear small cadet gloves. If I put my my middle finger joint at 10 o'clock, my thumb crease is right of my shoulder. Is there another way to check the proper position of my grip?
December 7, 2024
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Chuck
Quickest way would be to post a quick picture here
December 8, 2024
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Marc-Anthony
Hey Guys, for lefty's would it be 2 o'clock? Appreciate all the work!
November 15, 2024
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Chuck
It’s the same just depends on how you are imagining the clock. Ten oclock or two oclock
November 16, 2024
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Matthew
the supinated trail arm has been huge the past few days! Thanks Chuck
November 5, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome!
November 7, 2024
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Piet
Piet Chuck, in your recent video on the amount of wrist cock, you told us about the grip pressure of the right hand. You stated that contrarily to most instructions that Tiger used a very high pressure of the right hand. You said you would comment on it later on. However, I couldn't find it. Please , comment on it again.
November 1, 2024
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Chuck
I hold the club relatively firm with my right hand to control it. You only have the two middle fingers controlling the club of the right hand really on the club and so they need to grip the club firmly enough to be able to control it
November 3, 2024
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John
Chuck I have to keep signing in over and over again to watch videos. I am asked to prove I am not a BOT and then can only watch the videos on YouTube. Is there a glitch in the system? I know tha my dies are up to date.
October 28, 2024
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Chuck
It is an issue when users are using a VPN we have found. We are switching off of Youtube to work around if you are using a vpn but we won't be able to make the full switch until later this week
October 29, 2024
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Brad
How far up or down the grip should the right hand middle finger be and why? I get 10 o clock, but what is optimal placement up or down for a regular swing?
October 25, 2024
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Chuck
The higher up the right hand is toward the butt the more leverage and free speed you will have.
October 25, 2024
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Brad
OK, but "standard advice" I have gotten from past instructors is that the pad of the left hand should not hang off the butt of the club...do you agree with that? If so, that would set a limit to how far up the club the right hand would go towards the butt.
October 30, 2024
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Chuck
I didn't say hang the pad off but you can and that will give you the most speed. Tiger grips the club on high speed shots to the point that his pinky is near the butt cap of the grip, which hangs part of the pad off.
October 31, 2024
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Jayden
Hi Chuck, Should my left pointer finger interlink fully with the right ring finger? Does it make a difference what is the better grip? Best wishes
October 16, 2024
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Jayden
October 16, 2024
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Chuck
That's just because Tiger has big hands and long fingers., your grip is just fine from this angle
October 16, 2024
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Anthony
I assume that if I use "Mid" size grips, that the finger joint would be lower around 9 O'clock. Does that sound about right?
October 11, 2024
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Chuck
Not necessarily. If you're using mid-size grips, the assumption is you have big hands and longer fingers, so the grip alignment would still be the same.
October 11, 2024
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Anthony
I have reg size hands and use mid size grips to slow down the rate of face closure during the release for better ball direction/control. With that being said, would your original answer stand?
October 11, 2024
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Chuck
No, with regular sized hands the alignment of the fingers will be a little different since the grip is bigger. It shouldn't be a huge difference though
October 11, 2024
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Scott
This was the first time I have ever heard someone explain the grip using a clock face. So much easier for me than the idea of where the V’s point. Thanks
October 7, 2024
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Ronald
Yuck, I decided go back to this basic. Problem is I have short fat fingers, plus a fair about of squeeze flexibility restriction due to arthritis in the hands. It’s almost impossible to wrap around to the 10 o’clock side of the grip and have my nails facing up, and the thump over beyond the 12 o’clock position. I’ve tried various grips in the past a large grip has seemed more comfortable, but with short fingers and large grips makes it hard to wrap fingers that much. Glove size cadet medium. Do You have any experience getting students with arthritis and small grips to this position?
September 24, 2024
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Chuck
Well I have a fair bit of arthritis in both hands so I have some personal experience with it. Can you post a video you taking your grip?
September 25, 2024
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Ronald
So I tried to take a couple grip shots. Both 2 handed on my 7 iron, and a shot on my super large putter grip, and then just my right hand on the 7 iron. On the 7 iron, my grip is middle finger crease maybe a bit past 9 o’clock. I’m going to keep working to stretch that, I have only tried using it on the putting green. Interesting results, using my large grip putt I find it impossible to control it either wildly left or right with only the right hand. Literally missing 80-90% of my short putts one handed. No confidence period. It twitches at impact. Surprisingly, if I take my 7-iron, and just put with it right hand only, I’m drilling 5-7 from 4ft. If I move up to 3ft I was able to hit 10 for 10 after a few tries. Since the putter face should be much easier hit the ball squarely, I’m going back t my club fitter today, and test a few similar putters with regular or smaller grips right Hand only, if I get the same results as I feel I have with the 7-iron, then I will get a new grip on my putter. At that point I can resume training the right hand on the green. I’m hopeful, I think I mentioned my early putting skills came from Dave Pelz, but he never covered this right hand aspect. As for club grips I also trained on one of the Momentus 6.5 lb trainer, which I noticed the contour grip on it seems to have the middle finger crease at the 9 o’clock not 10 position. Hopefully you can see something in the grip pictures to add to this. Ops only 1 photo can upload.
September 25, 2024
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Ronald
Here is a video..

September 25, 2024
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Chuck
Did I read that correctly that you have very thick grips? I can't tell that well from teh video, I need to see a face on of the grip, but it looks very thick from here
September 27, 2024
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Ronald
The biggest grip I had was the super grip on my putter. I just had it changed to a very thin Ping grip. The large putter grip was suppose to “calm” the hands. But I found I lost control and with the right hand drip it was impossible to set the proper grip as you described for trail hand only drills. Absolutely no control at impact. I tried the thinner grip yesterday and it was much improved, I was able to up to 5 of 5,or 8 or 9 of 10 putts in, but still only from 5 ft. It will take some time to perfect the drill, at 3 ft then back at 4 ft, before trying to master the 10 ft. I need to work on over patience and repetition in the set up for each putt and stroke. It’s so easy to casually think ???? I can just groove each putt. There is a discipline to it. Here is a shot of the super grip on the putter. I don’t recommend it. Hopefully this conversation is useful to senior readers particularly with hand arthritis. One aspect that drove me to the larger grip was the difficulty of flexibility hindering my completely closing my fist. Some of that is overcome with grip strengthening exercises. Strange after over 20 years of golf I’m just now really focusing on the grip. Btw, the grips on my irons are more standard, though a bit on the larger size, I did have some very large grips on my wedges for a time, but I got rid of them so now all are the same. If we continue this conversation I will try to take a better photo of the 7-iron grip, maybe a closeup. I’m not exactly sure what you mean by face on? I figured the standard face on view, as opposed to down the line would just show the back of right hand? Anyway thanks greatly for your feedback, this has already resulted in my grip change on the putter.
September 27, 2024
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Chuck
Ya face on meaning just a camera looking straight at the front of your body and then taking your grip. But if you have fatter grips than standard and shorter fingers it's going to be very tough to get a proper grip just as you learned with the putter. I recommend a corded golf pride grip. They are thinnest standard sized grips I have found and you will feel the club much better in your fingers.
September 27, 2024
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Ronald
New movie format…

September 25, 2024
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James
Chuck, you have removed any doubts that you ARE the "supreme golf guru." After only watching the grip test video after the Saturday webinar, that movement of the finger joints to 10 o'clock today resulted in the most consistent, straight, accurate, repetitive and confidence building shots with putter, wedges, mid and long irons and driver I've ever enjoyed. I could have dropped many strokes today if not for the rain and wet conditions. I am now so excited with this positive result, I may have to put in an all nighter to get through more of the video sequence! Thank you and your team for your guidance and making the game so much fun again!
September 2, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome James! Love it!
September 3, 2024
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Priyan
Hi Chuck, I practiced the setup with the trail arm and started with the butt of the club touching my forearm. However, when I put the lead arm, I cannot get the butt of the club touch my forearm. Is this normal?
September 2, 2024
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Chuck
Don't sweat it, it's just a drill to help with the feeling of not setting the wrists too much incorrectly. If you have limited mobility in the wrists that can happen.
September 2, 2024
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Jayden
Could you kindly post a picture from behind your club, there where you interlock. I would like to know how your pinky and left index finger sit in the back.
September 2, 2024
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Chuck
September 2, 2024
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Jayden
Thanks this helped a lot!!
September 3, 2024
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Jayden
Does your right pinky sit on the knuckle of the left index finger?
September 3, 2024
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Chuck
Not sure what you mean there.
September 3, 2024
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Jayden
Is it more understandable, when I ask; does the right pinky sit on the metacarpophalangeal joint of the left index finger with you? And does the left index finger sit on the metacarpophalangeal joint of the pinky?
September 3, 2024
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Chuck
Ahh gotcha, yes it does.
September 3, 2024
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John
I've had some soreness in my left thumb so I checked to make sure my grip was proper using this video. It happened after practicing with the driver. I do see wear on my glove in the left thumb area. Do I need to practice with my left thumb off the grip? Does this also mean I am still pushing way too hard with my left hand/thumb?
September 2, 2024
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Chuck
It means you are pushing way too much with the left thumb, yes. The force is going to come from your trail hand. I will cover it more in this weekends webinar if you can make it
September 2, 2024
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John
Thanks--I appreciate it. Yes, I will definitely attend--Saturday's webinar was really good!!
September 2, 2024
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Chuck
This one is going to be even better!
September 2, 2024
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Jayden
Hi again, I understand why you should pinch together index finger and thumb in both hands, however when I look at Tiger's left hand he leaves a small gap between his index finger and thumb. Do you maybe know why?
September 1, 2024
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Chuck
Here's a video of Tiger taking his grip and you can see that he has that gap to make room for the fingers of his right hand.

September 1, 2024
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Jayden
Hi Chuck, didn't you show a picture in your book instrucktor sertification manual 2 second edition, on page 43, where the club runs threw the proximal phalanges bone and not threw the first joint of the middle finger.?
September 1, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, and both work, but the cert manual was based on a lead side pattern. In a trail side, we want to be able to drive more force into the shaft with the dominant hand and this grip is better suited to delivering force and controlling the face.
September 1, 2024
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Jayden
Ah Ok, understand
September 1, 2024
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Jeff
hey chuck, I really like the cohesiveness of this grip. With my trail hand middle finger joint being at 10 o'clock it allows me to bring my right hand to wrap around my left thumb in its palm crease, where the left thumb is not really visable. I use an interlocking grip and have a question as to whether it makes a difference how deep the fingers interlock? I normally have a bit of space. Not much, just that the webbing is not touching I'm thinking that the more cohesive (webbing touching) the grip is the better.
August 29, 2024
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Chuck
Hogan liked to describe the hands as being "welded together" and I like that idea, too. But, it really depends on hand size and finger length. I wear a large glove, but don't have super long fingers, I have a bigger palm, so my fingers don't wrap around nearly the amount that say Tiger's do who has much bigger hands.
August 30, 2024
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Mark
Doing this, my right hand ring finger overwraps the club and rides on my right hand thumb pad. Does this mean I need fatter grips? I currently use a standard grip with two wraps of tape.
September 2, 2024
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Chuck
I'd have to see it, but Tiger also has big hands and uses standard grips and the fingers do sit pretty high
September 2, 2024
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John
Can you please re-post this video?
August 29, 2024
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Chuck
Back up now, sorry about that!
August 29, 2024
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John
Thanks!
August 30, 2024
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Nick
Hi Chuck, what should our grip pressure be?
August 13, 2024
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Chuck
If 10 was as tight as possible, between a 3-5 is perfect
August 14, 2024
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Christopher
When taking this grip my clubhead is shut at address. Is that normal or am I doing this incorrectly. Please explain why. Thank You
August 11, 2024
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Chuck
It should definitely not be shut, if you gripped it correctly then your setup is off
August 11, 2024
1.1 Introduction to The GOAT Code 1.2 The GOAT Delivery Position (GDP) 1.3 The GOAT Grip 1.4 The GOAT Setup 1.5 GOAT Ball Position 1.6 Trail Hand Putting Drill 1.7 Tiger Woods Tee Drill 1.8 Add Lead Hand to Putting Stroke 1.9 Skills Assessment Challenge: Putting
2.1 Clubface is KING 2.2 Trail Hand Chipping Stroke 2.3 Trail Hand Ripper Chip 2.4 Add Lead Hand to Chipping Stroke 2.5 Progressive Drill to Add Lead Hand 2.6 Add Lead Hand to Ripper Chip 2.7 Skills Assessment Challenge: Chipping
3.1 Transferring Power from the Core to the Hand 3.2 The GOAT Pitch Shot 3.3 Pitch Shot Starting Line Drill 3.4 Fundamentals of Compression 3.5 Skills Assessment Challenge: Pitching
4.1 Core Activation - Chair Drill 4.2 Core Activation - Medicine Ball Throws 4.3 Core Activation - Slam Ball 4.4 Core Activation - Punching Bag Power 4.5 20 Yard Wedge Shot Basics 4.6 Skills Assessment Challenge: 20 Yard Shots 4.7 40 Yard Wedge Shots - The Magic! 4.8 GOAT Power Sequence 4.9 The GOAT Drill 4.10 How to Increase Hand Speed - J Release 4.11 The Importance of the Waggle for Speed 4.12 How the Lead Side Works for Power 4.13 Magic of Supination 4.14 80 Yard Shots - Down the Line 4.15 The GOAT Takeaway 4.16 The GOAT 9 to 3 Drill
Webinar 1: The Core Webinar 2: Core Power & Putting Webinar 3 - Compression & Clubface Control Webinar 4 - Fascia & Effortless Power
Squish the Bug for Effortless Power - Pt 3 of 3 The GOAT Release The GOAT Release Intro - Endless Conveyor Belt GOAT Code Secret to Effortless Power - Pt 1 of 4 GOAT Code Effortless Power - Head Movement - Pt 2 of 4 GOAT Code Effortless Power - Using Your Head - Pt 3 of 4 GOAT Code Effortless Power - Take it to the Course - Pt 4 of 4

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