Q-n-A Webinar 2: May 14
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Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, second webinar, May 14th 2025
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Those things popped up pretty fast.
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Hello, everybody.
Mike, Thomas, James, Bob, Doug.
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Chris B is in the house.
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We got the troublemaker Alex in the house.
That's scary.
Y 'all want to stay away from that one.
All right, everybody.
Welcome to Q &A session two.
I will be your humble swing guide or attempt to be your humble swing guide today.
And thanks for spending your evening with me.
I hope everybody enjoyed.
Session number one, I hope you got a whole lot out of it.
I think that we covered some really good topics.
I think tonight there might be some kind of reruns because questions are the same, but as we all know, further clarification can't hurt.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give it a couple minutes because I see the numbers popping up on my screen right here.
And I'm letting everybody kind of pile in the room before I get started.
Hey, Steve, how are we doing today? Dennis? David, fantastic.
So we all learned something, right? I hope so.
Hopefully we'll learn a little bit more tonight.
And I want to start by saying just a little bit.
Everybody's going to get answered, okay? I'm going to answer everybody.
Remember, this series is going to be going on through this month and next month.
So keep posting your questions.
Keep putting everything in the community.
You're going to get answered.
All right.
I may not be able to get to some people because I had some postings today saying, hey, Craig, can you throw this in tonight's webinar? And I'm like, well, you know, the early bird gets the worm.
I've got a lot of people ahead that I want to get answered that are really eager or that were really eager to get their questions posted.
But fear not.
If you don't get your question answered today, I will answer it.
That's why this series is going on for the next two months is because.
We got time to do it.
So I'm going to get everybody answered, all right? And remember, there are no dumb questions.
If you think it's a silly question, still post it.
I might go ahead and answer it on the community, but it may be something that I want to elaborate on a little bit more because it needs more talking about.
So don't fret.
Don't be scared to post anything.
All right.
Hey, Carver, how are we doing today? All right, I'm going to give it about one more minute and then we will get going because I keep seeing y 'all can't see it.
But on my end, I got these numbers kind of climbing on my screen.
And well, actually, I can talk about this while we're doing that.
We had one question that came in through the first session that I didn't answer.
And I want to let that person know that I do have their question and their question was.
Living in the Northeast with limited indoor space makes working on the swing difficult for roughly half the year and would love a sequential set of drills and exercises that could be used during the downtime with or without club usage that would fit into lessons kind of working on the trail side pattern.
Now, I spoke to Chuck about that one, and that's actually going to be a series that he's going to be working on.
So it's not that I ignored your question.
But that's actually something that he's working on on the back end that will explain it much better than I ever will.
Because I got a really good response on the first webinar where somebody said this was the good cliff notes to Chuck's master literature.
And I was like, all right, just enough to pass the test up here.
It's like that's how I got through school.
Hello, Fred.
Hey Steven, how are we doing today? Brent, how do you view and post on the community? Brent, if you go to the main page or the home screen, you will see up at the top, you'll see a big thing that says community.
When you go to community, when you go there, the very first pinned post, you're going to see a button that says start here, and that'll tell you what each category is for.
Now for these sessions, you must post in the live sessions section.
That's where I'm looking.
If you post in GOAT code, if you post in C4, if you post in 19th hole, I'm going to go ahead and answer those thinking that's just something you kind of want a quick report to.
All right.
Larry.
Now, Larry, you know where to post the questions.
Why is the takeaway so important? Well, it's important.
You don't hit the ball with it, but it's important.
Can you elaborate on eliminating push from the arm or wrist? I can, but I got my list to get through, bud.
Put that up on the community.
It might be in today's.
I think somebody asked somewhat the same question.
But since my ticker is kind of slowing up, let's get started.
So round two.
And remember, when you post a question, I'm like Ron Burgundy up here.
I'm going to read it how it's written.
I'm not going to change anything.
So when you post it, make sure it's how you want it said.
So session number two, let's get started with a good one.
Where I left off was active or passive risk.
So this one's going to be finish, finish, finish.
I can't seem to cover the ball.
And then finish with my weight transfer to my front foot, standing upright, looking at the target.
So I'm taking that, as you can't seem to finish, in a nice full roundabout way.
How can I get the weight transfer to happen naturally? How can I get the weight transfer to happen naturally? Well, that's a little bit of a different question than staying covered over the ball.
But I do have some thoughts on that.
So how can I get the weight transfer to happen naturally? Because that's part of the trail side is really using feel.
So there's two ways that I like to do it in particular.
And for those of you that have been with Rotary and even watched some of my C4 videos back in the day, one great thing that I always do is I get alive with my feet.
That's the easiest way to start understanding weight transfer and getting moving in the swing.
And what I mean by getting alive in the feet, is just start waking them up.
There's nothing wrong with moving a little bit laterally like this when you're trying to waken up your body, when you're trying to feel what natural weight transfer is.
Yeah, I can get a five-year-old to do this.
If you start to make some swings and just take swing out of the equation right now.
Right now, you're trying to feel moving weight.
Allow your feet to lift.
So start to make a swing where you start to go back and you let your left foot lift and then start to let your right foot lift.
Just getting your feet awake like this, this will help you start to feel what it's like to move weight from your trail side to your lead side back and forth.
And like I said, if you take golf out of the equation for a second, just hit a couple shots that way.
We're not going for perfection right now.
You're trying to feel some weight transfer.
So get a club in your hand.
You can do this in small nine to three swings.
You can do this in three quarter swings.
But get a club in your hand.
And I think I actually grabbed the wrong club.
If I hit the ceiling, you'll be in for it.
So as you start to go back, just start to lift your feet a little bit.
Just so you can feel moving from one side to another.
Don't worry about perfection of what's going on with the club head or anything.
But let your feet lift so that one's lightening and the other one's getting a little bit heavier that way.
And then you can actually start to feel how you can ramp up your speed.
All right.
Because you'll start to kind of feel it almost, I call it in my swinger view, it's kind of like a rudder system.
You know, if you think about like, you know, a duck paddling or a rudder moving back and forth like this, if you get the feet alive and moving, you can start to move really fast, but you can feel naturally how to get into your trail side and how to get into your lead side.
Now, the other part of that question.
was can't seem to cover the ball, finish the weight, transfer on the right foot.
Full finish.
If you're transferring your weight, okay, if you're transferring your weight, but you're not finishing, more than likely, and you're not covering the ball, more than likely what's happening is as you're coming down, you're early extending, all right? You're starting to create a little bit of stand-up right here.
which is going to raise your chest okay so if i start to early extend too soon for my trail side my chest is going to raise my head's going to come up and as i come through the strike it's going to be really hard to get to a full finish because look at what happens i'm going to kind of exaggerate a little bit if i really push from that side what happens you can see i'm falling back on my trail foot right now so reading this user's questions I would make sure that you're not early extending and pushing that hip too far towards the ball because what you're missing is the fact that as you start to release the club and your core and your lead leg has posted correctly, that momentum is going to whip you around to a full follow through.
I don't have to try to finish.
It's one of.
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Our kind of pet peeves is working the swing backwards that way.
The finish is a great diagnostic tool.
Looking at somebody's finish can tell you a lot about what they did in their swing.
But it's a byproduct.
It's a safe deceleration of motion.
So you should never have to try to finish.
If you're moving through your core correctly, you're posting up, and you're letting the snap and the whip, you should be able to reach a full finish without any problems.
But what I would check, is i would check to make sure that you're not early extending all right question number two supination exactly when do we do this move i think it has to be at the very end of the backswing when the club has stopped moving momentarily the club kind of never really stops but yes it's at the top of the backswing is this is going to be where we really start to kind of supinate so if i exaggerate right now i'm here, and then I move into supination.
All right.
So as soon as I get to the top and I move into the transition, that's going to be where I'm moving into supination.
Otherwise, you're just trying to steer the club.
Correct.
Because most players, they get here and they get so concerned with the fact that they have to square up the club or they have to power it that they start pushing and throwing too soon.
Now, let me clarify that because this popped in my head literally as I was saying that.
There's a difference between a proper throw and a cast, okay? So as they're up at the top and they start throwing the angle of their wrist too soon, that would be steering the club.
So I need to get this built in as long club shots are tending to go left.
If your long club shots are tending to go left, then more than likely you are pushing and steering from the top.
that as you're starting to drive down, you're taking the trail shoulder, you're taking the trail arm, you're taking the trail hand, and you're starting to steepen the pitch of this shaft early in an attempt to get power or square up the club because that feels like a very powerful motion.
And when you start to do this, you can see that the pitch of the shaft and the club are starting to swing this little bit left.
And so that can definitely bring about the potential of hitting a pole.
What does the lead wrist have to do to support the trail wrist that is supinating? Well, that's a good question.
So what is the lead wrist really doing right here? What is the lead wrist really there for? We know that we use it in the takeaway, just as for those that watch the hand webinar.
We know that it's helping set the club up as we're going down our railroad tracks right here.
But what is the lead wrist really doing as I start to transition? Well, I'm kind of just letting it get out of the way, to be honest with you.
Both arms and hands are still doing something.
Both sides of your body are still doing something.
But my lead wrist, what I'm really trying to do is let it react to what my trail wrist is doing.
So my lead wrist is in a supporting role because of my grip in the fingers, palm, pushing down on the club, supporting the weight.
But as I start to supinate.
and I start to make my motion coming down, I'm trying to let this lead wrist react to the fact that my extension is going to get a little bit greater, that I'm supinating with my trail, because if I let my lead wrist react, then I really don't have to worry about trying to create a massive amount of flexion and impact or a massive amount of bow, because your lead wrist is going to react to your trail wrist.
So if I'm standing right here, if I.
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take my trail wrist and go into extension what does my lead wrist do well my lead wrist goes into flexion right here and vice versa so if i'm at the top and i'm taking my trail wrist this way what was my lead wrist doing my lead wrist is going into flexion i didn't have to make that happen okay as if i get up here and i start to push the button to get a quick supination right here As I make that motion right there, I'm allowing my lead wrist to follow because this is a trail side guided swing.
So if you're struggling with what to do with the lead wrist up there at the top, you don't want to kind of do anything with it.
You don't need to do anything with it.
If you need to do some specialty shots, yeah, you have to add more.
But for a standard stock every day, I'm going to make my golf swing.
I'm going to get up here to the top.
And as I get up here to the top, I'm going to supinate.
I'm letting my lead wrist kind of go along for the ride because my trail side is directing the entire motion so hopefully that helps that member all right let's see number three i would like some clarification on lateral movement and how it works in a trail side pattern i know there has to be lateral movement Correct.
But I don't quite understand how you can have lateral movement and the ideas of pivoting off the trail foot and staying back behind the ball all at the same time.
If you could demystify this tonight, it would be grateful.
Okay.
Let me see if I can demonstrate this or explain it as clearly as I can.
Yes, there is lateral motion in the swing.
All right.
So one thing that you have to realize is that as I start to go throughout the swing and I move up towards the top, I will start to have some recentering and my pelvis will have to start to move laterally.
You're not trying in the golf swing to literally hang back and stay on this trail leg.
So the pelvis right here, there has to be some lateral motion.
It's the same thing even if you think about the old lead side pattern.
As this moves laterally, my spine.
is going to start to tilt back as i move into side bend right here so you can see how my hips and pelvis are moving right now as i move into side bend what are my hips doing okay my hips are shifting laterally right here okay so in a trail side pattern when i move into side bend that's what's shifting my pelvis laterally this way And the ideas of pivoting off the trail foot and staying behind the golf ball.
Well, the ideas of pivoting off the trail foot and staying behind the golf ball isn't that you're trying to stay on this back leg and hit.
Okay, that's not what you're trying to do.
What you're trying to do is not get towards the top and shift all your mass to your lead side to where you get into a position that you can't add any rotational speed.
So if I'm pivoting off my trail leg and I'm trying to get some rotational speed, and I get up to the top and I dump all my mass, okay? And let me kind of clarify this.
Mass, this is mass, all right? This is my weight, like my big body moving from right to left right here.
I'm shifting my mass.
Pressure is what I'm getting from the ground, okay? So pressure.
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Like right now, my pressure is rapidly changing.
Like you can have fun with this on a force plate.
If I'm going like this, I'm changing what my ground force leverage is right now.
I'm changing my vertical force right here.
All right.
That's pressure.
What I'm getting back and from the ground right here.
Mass is me, like my big weight.
And staying behind the ball at the same time.
Well, that's the thing.
As I move up here towards the top and I start to pivot with my trail side, my pressure is going to increase on my lead side.
It has to.
My trail foot's starting to get light right now, so it's got to be going somewhere.
Right now, both my pressure and my mass are on this side, but as my trail foot starts to unweight right here, my pressure is starting to increase here on my lead side.
Chuck is trying to say is if you take your mass and you shift all your mass over in your transition, like literally go like this.
Well, from this position, I've got nothing I can add for my trail side to get any rotational speed flow.
So the feeling to still be able to get rotational speed from here is to allow my pressure is still going to increase on that side, but to get this driving.
to provide juice, but not jump all of my mass over there at once because now I have nothing I can really fire with.
Okay? I think that's all the question.
And so when I do that and I drive from this side and I move into side bend, head behind the ball, at making this motion into side bend and allowing my pelvis to shift over here, I can stay behind the ball this way.
Okay? because i don't want to dive and get out ahead of the golf ball this is what i call like in you know my lessons like a heavy lead leg when you get a heavy lead leg too soon you're never going to get it posted up there's too much mass on it there's too much pressure right here you're never going to get this posted i can't i don't have enough time to try to get that posted up before i get to the golf ball so when i start to shift my pressure over here and might start to move laterally as I move into side bin, that motion's pretty snappy, okay? Because I don't want to get too heavy because I'll never get posted up, and then I will start sliding out ahead of the golf ball.
So hopefully that helps.
All right.
Let's see.
I just wanted to make sure there was nothing going on up here that's.
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Okay.
So hopefully that helps clarify for that member.
and y 'all at home okay let's see number four i'm trying to extend my trail arm into the backswing and you're encouraging me to do so yes so we want the trail arm to maintain its width in the backswing maintaining the extension of that trail arm It takes me back with my core and keeps me from just lifting.
Good.
I'm noticing that Rory and Hogan triggered their backswings by extending their arms before starting their swings.
Does that seem like a good way to initiate the feel? There are other ways.
Well, I can't really say for Hogan, but I have watched Rory enough.
I don't want to per se.
and say that Rory is starting it with his arms? Because when you watch Rory as he starts back, you will see how he kind of gets this kind of extended squeezing of the arms look, a la Hogan, but this really tight and locked in look.
But as he starts to go back, he's not doing this and then starting back with his arms.
Like that's not triggering it and then moving.
If you watch Rory, if you watch Tiger and you watch.
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A lot of the great players, their first move.
Roy right here, in my eyes, as he's getting here and as he gets this locked out, you're going to see that once he sets this into position, he starts to move laterally.
OK, so I don't want the trigger.
Ideally, I don't want the trigger for your golf swing to be arms.
All right, because typically once you get the arms going, they're off to the races is really.
Nothing you can do about the arms once they kind of get going too much and there's kind of nothing involved in the body.
What I see from Roy is that he gets here and he gets the arms locked out tight, really tightens this core right here.
And you'll really see it's not like as dramatic as a Henrik Stenson, but you'll really see that his first move is really getting that lateral motion, getting that weight into this side right here.
So instead of using the arms, to kind of trigger, use that as like the last line before the trigger.
All right, I'm going to get here.
If you like that feeling, get here.
I'm going to get my arms, my trail arm, my lead arm are all locked out.
They're nice and straight.
But to get the train moving off the tracks, I want to see some movement.
I want to see some early load as being a little bit more of the trigger.
Because I'm afraid if you try to do this and then move your arms, that's all you're going to do is sit there and then move your arms.
Because most players you will see started with some type of lateral motion.
So hopefully that helps.
All right.
Number five.
I understand the takeaway.
That's good.
And how important it is to get to the good top position of the backswing.
But after getting to a good position at the top, The transition to transfer the weight to the front leg, shallow the club, is more difficult because it's dynamic, okay? Please explain or maybe give a drill to do a good transition and also explain what the muscles in what order to use, legs, hands, arms during the downswing.
Well, I'll kind of go backwards on that.
So as you're starting to make the transition, as you're starting to go through, the first thing that's going to happen is that as you start to reach the top, you are going to start to recenter and start to shift your pressure back a little bit to the lead side right here.
Now, in what order to use the legs, hands and arms? Well, the first one, I don't really want you using your arms at all.
All right.
I want you to kind of go back and think about some of Chuck's videos where Chuck talks about how, you know, the arms are kind of the spokes on a wheel.
All right.
I don't really want you even kind of trying to do anything with your arms, but legs or hands.
Well, this movement right here, this is all kind of simultaneous right here.
All right.
I'm not trying to move my hand independently of moving my leg, but as I start to move my pressure back right here and my core starts to drive, my inner adductors are going to fire right here to help me start pulling some weight to my lead side as my trail leg.
And for me, I'm kind of in the adage of squishing the bug where I'm really kind of getting that trail toe, trail knee, trail leg, trail side driving.
I'm really trying to pivot off that side so I can make that as fast as possible.
So to me, this motion is a unit.
I don't like segmenting that.
And I think that's part of the problem, especially since we're trying to recruit the fascia and we're trying to make the swing dynamic.
is if you break it off into too many components, then you start to lose a little bit of the force through the trees because that's not how it works.
I mean, you can, if you were to, if we're just going to use like a baseball analogy, now I'm not a major league pitcher.
So anybody out there, but I'm not going to sit here and teach somebody to throw like this.
I'm not going to say, okay, step your foot, get your arm here.
Use your chest, use your arms, use your hand.
I mean, I'm already tongue-tied trying to do that.
I would have the person first start moving.
I'd have the person start trying to develop a little bit of coordination with this, okay? And so what ends up happening is this motion, even though, yes, I'm getting back over this side and I'm starting to pull and my hands are starting to go on, all of this.
is kind of going all at once because that's what I'm trying to get to happen even though everybody's kind of going at a different rate everybody's kind of going at a different distance I'm trying to get all of this to be one motion and I think that if you try to split it up or if you get into your head and you're like okay I've got to do this I've got to do this okay now I've got my shoulder blade going down so I can get that scapula locked right here and I'm going to use my adductors right here to kind of squeeze my knees because I don't want to squat this way and as I start to use that and I drive for my trail The golf swing doesn't work like that.
This movement is supposed to be more of a natural feel.
This movement is supposed to be more of taking the concept of understanding the conveyor belt, where you're getting into the supination, the deviation, and the rotation, and then starting to feel, okay, well, how can I take that motion and make it snappier? How can I take that skipping of the stone analogy or the underhanded softball pitch? So I don't want you to really.
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Think about all that.
That's kind of our job is to figure out like what's kind of going on, but I think that will actually break it.
So maybe give a good drill for the transition.
Well, it kind of depends on what you need because you gave me a lot right there.
So it kind of depends on what you need.
If you're not feeling the body, one of the ones that I really like, like if you're, if you have the tendency to just go to the top and when you get up here towards the top, Every motion is just firing.
That's the first thing that I want to do.
No matter what I do, I can't seem to comprehend moving my body without firing my arms immediately first.
We'll take the arms out of the equation first.
I love kind of taking that and doing the old resting on the shoulder where you get up here and you just rest it on your shoulder right here.
How am I going to get this club to this ball right here? How am I going to get this club to this ground? I don't want you to swing this club or swing your arms.
So if I wasn't allowed to move my arms and hands right now, they're here.
They're dead on my shoulder right here.
The only way I can do that is move my body.
I'm not allowed to do anything with my arms and hands right now.
So the only way I can move this is move my body and then let the club come down and swing.
So you can see.
It's not going to be as pretty as it would be in a normal golf swing.
But what you're going to notice, if you get up here and just kind of rest this, and then you start to just sequence your body down, you can see what's happening.
If I do nothing with my arms and hands and my core starts to lead the way, the club is going to come down from a shallow position and then start getting into the release.
And this is literally me just taking all my arms out of the swing.
And so you can take that same feeling right here.
And then you can start putting your arms here and saying, OK, well, I know what it feels like to not do anything with my arms.
So let me go through that.
Let me feel the same thing of kind of almost leaving my arms there for a second just to get my body going.
If you just really have that hard time of kind of firing arms and hands.
Now, a second drill I really like for that.
which kind of puts them all in perspective, because as you're saying, like what goes first, the hands, the legs, the arms and hands is kind of like the super supinator drill.
And I can actually show you and actually now I'm thinking about it, I can actually show you Chuck doing it.
So that would literally be getting here and then feeling this whole motion.
So I'm getting into this position and I'm feeling the supination, the side bend.
And my hips starting to move a little bit laterally like this because I'm feeling a little bit of kind of, you know, squishing the bug, so to speak.
So I'm right here and just doing this, just getting all these pieces together where I'm feeling kind of the tip of the shaft, the supination or the pushing of the button.
So I'm feeling the supination.
I'm feeling the side bend and I'm letting my trail side and I'm letting my core start to pivot.
Like this is a really good one.
to get the feel of what you're trying to do coming down and i'll show you actually a good one over here let's see well i thought i knew what i was doing but apparently i don't all right there we go all right so hopefully you should be able to see my screen right now okay and if you can see my screen can everybody see my screen i don't don't know back to tab all right you can everybody can see my screen right now now that i just did what i did okay perfect all right so if i let me go to my system right here and we're gonna get to chuck And let's go over here.
Right here.
Okay.
So like what I was just showing you right there, and this is a friendly reminder, if you don't follow us on all socials, it's a good thing to do.
You can learn some stuff there too.
So watch Chuck right here.
What I want you to take notice of, and this is kind of what he's doing is like the super supernator.
So you're going to see he's letting the shaft pitch back, moving into side bent.
And look at how he's allowing his trail side and his core to move through.
And you can see that his pelvis is starting to move a little bit laterally right there.
But his head and his mass aren't diving forward.
So he's going to sit there for a second.
He's going to sit there for a second, do a couple pumps, do a couple pumps.
And then as he gets that feel for it, he's going to blend it all into one motion and take it all the way to the ball.
So you can see now in perfect GDP, getting the impact and letting the club release.
But that all started because he's trying to feel that throw of the hands and he's letting the throw of the hands, the supination, the side bend and the pivoting from the trail side, bring everything into impact.
He really hasn't had to do much of anything to get to that position.
So that's a really good drill.
Hopefully that kind of expands upon a little bit of where we're at with this.
No video, just Demio screen.
Uh-oh.
Wait a minute.
It said it was there.
Let's try this again.
See, I can't see the notes once this happens.
What about now? Nope.
All right.
Well, we'll work on that one.
I'll put it up on the next time.
My apologies.
So we got it to work, but it's not working now, but Essentially the main thing is It's getting this to pitch as this is driving so you can see my head and nothing's going crazy with this and then as I'm doing this Coming down and blending it all into one motion, so I'll figure out Why it's not it started to switch was there for a second Let's see.
I'll give it one more go and then I'm going to go to the other ones because I don't want to waste anybody's time.
All right.
What about now? Anything? All right.
Chris, all right.
Perfect.
Maybe.
Got something? All right, I'm going to minimize this.
Everybody seeing this? We got one, two.
I get three.
Okay, everybody's seeing this.
Perfect.
So we'll try this again.
So here's Chuck, and this is kind of what we call the supination or the super supernator right here.
And so what you'll see is that as he's moving through this, you'll see he's moving into side bend.
The pitch of the shaft is supinating and you'll see how his lower half is starting to move forward because that trail side is getting involved right there.
So as you move into side bend right there, that's going to be how that pelvis kind of starts to move laterally naturally back that way.
So just kind of starting at the top and getting the feel for kind of making all these movements synonymous right here.
Just blending the supination, the side bend, letting the pelvis move.
And so you'll see that after he does that a couple times, now he's going to take that same feeling and let it work into the strike right here and into the release.
So all that is just trying to make all of this just that throwing pattern where we get into the supination, the side mid, and letting that lateral motion and pivoting off of that trail leg right there.
Make sense? Hopefully.
All right.
So I'm glad I got that to work.
Where is that video posted? It's somewhere.
That one is on Instagram.
It's somewhere on the site.
If not, I'll put it on the community for you, David.
But that's a really good way of getting that.
Okay.
I lost my notes.
So hopefully that helps out with kind of getting a good feeling with that.
Because one of the main things is by the time you kind of get down to the ball.
The downswing happens so fast.
And remember, when you're trying to make this downswing, we have to shallow out the club, obviously.
And we've got to get to a point where this club starts to deviate or your wrist starts to deviate and squares up.
So we've got to have this speed component with the squaring.
You can't really think your way through that.
All right.
It's kind of like you think you're dead.
It's got to be a movement.
And that's why, you know, just with Chuck sitting there doing that, he's training the blending of that.
What's the feel of what I'm trying to do? How can I get this faster? How can I speed all this up and make this all this kind of one piece motion? I mean, if you follow to axiom, you can really get that same feel the same way where, you know, we're really focusing on getting this kind of look to the swing.
well as i'm sitting here doing this like if i just sit here and i get the club going like that so i'm staying in pronation then i'm moving into supination all right and if you're doing this at home you can start to put this together yourself so just stand right here and go into pronation and go into supination well if i just did it with my arm right there all right and i just did it right here i'd start to kind of bottom out right here all right But if I wanted to kind of make this into a golf swing, I'd go pronation, supination.
I'd start letting my body react to this motion.
Well, how would I speed all this up? Well, if I move a little bit more in the side bin, I pivot a little bit more off my trail leg, I can start to create a lot more snap that way.
And you can see I'm still sitting here talking to you.
So it's got to be some effortless speed in there.
It's not me trying to force that.
I'm using the combination of the conveyor belt with letting my pivot and my rotational force really help ramp it up.
So I can create a lot of speed that way.
Okay.
Well, after failure number one on screen share, we've learned that.
So I learned something today.
So I'm going to take that.
Number six.
Would you please show proper wrist hand position for the entire swing, especially during the takeaway and the top of the backswing? For the entire swing? Okay.
As a side note, what I would do is I would go watch the hack motion videos.
that Chuck shot, he'll talk about the flexion and extension, and he'll actually has one.
I think it's the day where he shot 66, I think.
But if you just type hack motion in the search box, Chuck will give you much better detail than I can here, but I'll shoot for the stars.
And for posterity, I'll do it from both views.
So from this view, the wrist position from the takeaway on.
All right.
So as I start to move back in my backswing right here, my trail wrist right now, and I'll do it from face off, my trail wrist right now is inflection and my lead wrist is in extension.
And as I start to make my takeaway right here, you can see I start to add just a little bit of setting or a little bit of radial deviation with my lead wrist right here.
Not a whole lot, but that's just getting me.
I can feel a little bit of the weight of the club.
It's what's supporting it.
So to this point right here, I haven't done a whole lot with my wrist.
All right.
My lead wrist is still an extension.
My trail wrist is still inflection.
Now, as I move from the takeaway and I continue to go towards the top, I'm going to continue to add a little bit of setting.
My lead wrist right there as my trail wrist starts to set and I move into a little bit of extension.
But what I really want you to pay close attention to as I'm doing that, my shoulder plane and stuff are changing because I'm.
you know, want to look at y 'all.
But as I'm doing that, my wrist really aren't doing a whole lot.
All right.
And that's usually what I find much more often than not, is that players, especially in their backswing, I was taught this by a well-known instructor.
A lot of other people I know were taught this by certain instructors of really getting those arms and hands active very, very soon to kind of get them out of the way.
But as I'm going through here, I want to maintain a lot of width and I want my arms and hands quiet.
And so as I'm moving this way, my wrists are quiet.
I start to add a little bit of set right here.
My trail wrist is staying in flexion right here.
My lead wrist is staying in extension.
And as the club starts to set up right here, it's not really changing that much.
I'm still in a little bit of extension.
up here at the top and i think that some players try to get this look to it they're like oh i gotta be flat at the top so they end up like this they end up super bowed you have your anomalies david duvall dustin johnson what have you but that's not really how you need to do it you actually want to try to feel like you're maintaining this cupping and this lead wrist all the way to the top which for a trail wrist player that means this trail wrist is still doing very little Okay, now as we get here and I start to supinate, my extension is going to increase a little bit in my trail wrist.
My lead wrist is going to get into a little bit more flexion right here.
As I start to supinate and come down, I start to pivot.
But until about this point right here, still not a whole lot has happened with my wrist.
Still very quiet.
I'm getting into some supination right here.
You're not really going to see.
a whole lot of change in this pattern until you start trying to square up the club and this is where the speed picks up and the squaring of the face happens because now i'm going to start to move into deviation with my wrist in pronation so i got to start to have some rotation right here but that really doesn't happen a whole lot until i'm down here into gdp and that's going to be where i'm really going to see this ramp up as i start to work through here And then for me, my feeling is once I get to here, I almost have that feeling of letting the button of the club point back towards the camera.
And so as I get to here and I let this snap right here, I have that feeling of almost letting this button in the club point back towards the camera where you can see my trail wrist is now in a lot of flexion and my lead wrist is back in a lot of extension right here.
And that's going to be where I kind of have that.
going back the other direction that's going to be that snap right there from face on as i'm setting up here and i'm getting into my grip and this is why you know if you want to exaggerate it a little bit it's a really good way to get the feeling or get the hands out where you really get your goat grip right here but you kind of have that feeling where you've got this cupping right here this is almost feeling bowed right here and as i start to go back i'm rotating loading when I get into this position I haven't done a whole lot my lead wrist my trail wrist haven't done a whole lot I've got a little bit of set and that's just because this is pushing down that's helping keeping that club out as I move from here I'm still feeling like my lead wrist is staying in extension as the club starts to set up now as I move from here I'm moving into supination my lead wrist is starting to move up to a little bit of flexion.
So my trail wrist moves into a little bit more extension.
But as I move into GDP right here, I haven't really done a whole lot.
And then from here, this is going to be where I have that deviation into rotation.
And now I'm down here into impact.
And then I have that feeling of this, where it almost feels like the butt end of the club is working behind me.
Because remember, in a trail side release, I'm not trying to go like this.
I'm not trying to release it like this.
I'm feeling supination, deviation, rotation.
Supination, deviation, rotation.
So as I do that, that's going to be how my lead wrist is bowed right here, or inflection.
And then I let it kind of almost feel like it's almost swatting.
from underneath.
And the beauty about it is it's still de -lofting the club as you're doing that because not only is your lead wrist forward, it's de-lofting, but you're still getting that nice forward lane right there.
So for whoever asked that question, I hope that answers it.
All right.
Number seven.
How do you rate an order of importance What all the hands should be doing in the golf swing.
How do you rate in an order of importance? Also, how do the arms relate to that? Well, the arms should be doing very low.
So you shouldn't really be thinking a whole bunch about your arms.
Also, how low should the hands be in the golf swing, especially during impact? Well, you never want to try to force your hands low.
All right.
And then we could get really crazy on this because we could start getting into like what happens during parametric acceleration and stuff like that.
but you should never be striving to force your hands to be low um how would you define handing having a high handle at impact so a high handle at impact as you start to come down having a high let me put this down for a second having a high handle at impact would be getting into here and being like this that would be kind of having a high handle and i think there was a follow-up to that Why would you not want to be doing this in your golf swing or would you? Well, that's a good question.
What is typically going to cause a high handle? A high handle is typically going to be caused by me early extending and then casting, pushing on the club too soon.
I've got to do something to get out of the way of hitting the ground.
So I'm standing up too soon because I'm pushing this way and I'm still trying to get some speed.
So I'm snapping it in.
this way and also try not to take you know one of those big old divots but that doesn't mean that the hands aren't a little bit higher and I think maybe that's kind of where you're going with that question because if you think about setup right here when I get into my setup and I get into position I've got some angle right here.
So you can see like from my elbow down my forearm to my wrist to the club, I've got some angle right here.
Well, if I'm going to have max speed, it's not going to be returning right back to that same angle.
Okay.
It's going to be the wrist snapping.
So there's going to be some shaft droop and I'm going to be moving into some owner deviation right here.
That's going to be much more powerful.
for me to hit the ball allowing this to have some snap in it right here versus keeping it the handle low like this because typically if you're going to keep the handle low like that through there you're actually going to kind of delete some face rotation because you're going to be holding on to something so there's a difference between having a little bit of normal shaft droop and a little bit of higher hands at impact because you're maxing out on your release because when i'm getting down here i'm trying to throw this as hard as i can This is going to be kind of max position I can get to.
So having the handle a little bit higher and having a little bit of shaft group, that's why if you draw a line on somebody, you're not typically going to see that their hands are perfectly where they were at address.
And since we know that this thing works right now, we will do it that way.
So let's use the master himself.
And so if I, now this is a wedge, so this isn't going to kind of be maxed.
But if I kind of draw a little bit of a line right here, I'll just draw a little bit of a line right there just as a frame of reference.
You'll see as he goes through a swing, where are his hands right now at impact? They're slightly higher and above because he's maxing out.
on that owner deviation right there.
I mean, this one is not maxed out on it, but he has much more here than he did at address.
Okay.
That's different than having a high handle.
Okay.
So hopefully y 'all saw that first thing.
And secondly, that kind of helps answer that question.
All right.
Let's see.
I saw something on the screen.
All right.
Thank you, David.
Okay.
Question number eight.
I've always thought about throwing baseball, passing a football as an action where the throwing arm is not straight, but in the goat swing, I'm learning that I need to keep my trail arm straight in the backswing.
until at least left arm parallel, okay? I thought I could carry over what I knew about other sports to the GOAT method, where a lot is said about throwing the club.
Talk about this and why it's important.
Keeping the width with this or the throw? The width is important because it's free speed.
All right, so I'll answer both of them.
So the first thing is, we don't want to use our arms in the swing.
And so as this trail arm stays straight, All right.
This is going to be what helps allow us to create a wide swing arc because more width is free speed.
Think about the merry-go-round.
You picture a merry-go-round.
You put a kid on the inside and you put a kid on the outside.
A kid on the inside is like, yeah, I'm having a blast.
But the one on the outside is like going whee.
So we want to try to keep our trail arm straight so we can maximize our width going back.
But it also helps.
as in we start to make this backswing motion because we know we kind of have to have that feeling of almost that scapula working up and as this trail arm stays straight it's really easy to get that motion and that feel of that scapula moving correctly so as i do that it's very easy for me to get a full turn and move into extension with my spine right there where i start to kind of see my back shoulder there I can see why he said the GOAT method is more of an underneath softball pitch where the throwing arm is straighter.
But it does relate to the same thing with football and baseball and all that, the throwing action, because you're still moving the body.
You're still pivoting all the same way.
Now, when I'm throwing a football, I don't want my arm and hand way out here because what's going to happen? I'm going to get a strip sack.
it's the same thing where if my arm's right here and i'm throwing a ball what happens with my arm when i start to pivot all right what happens with my arm i start to get a little bit more stretch right here my body starts to pivot it around right here there's a lot of diminishing returns depending on where it is but it's going with my body right there so as you're throwing and you're moving this way i'm able to add this rotational speed to my arm right here okay Now the throw is the same thing as if I were to take, I should have a baller in here somewhere.
Taking this ball, keeping my trail arm straight, and I'm letting this wrist start to set back on itself, getting nice and high and wide.
And as I start to do that, this is still a throw.
If you took a baseball, you wouldn't take a baseball like this and throw it like that.
I don't think.
What you would do if you wanted to throw this harder but with connection is you would have some width up here.
You'd pivot your body and you'd toss it like that.
So it is still a throw.
There are different parameters with the golf club because we want to take advantage of having that width and free speed.
But the throwing pattern is pretty much the same.
The second question to this is when I move to a full swing, I'm chronically hitting behind the ball about an inch.
Okay.
This is a good question.
The divot pattern is a perfect dollar bill.
All right.
So we're hitting behind the ball.
So to clarify what he's saying, he's hitting behind the ball, but he's got a perfect divot.
And on the target line, when I do make crisp contact, it's a perfectly straight shot.
Okay.
So to me, what it sounds like is you're flipping.
your trail hand too soon so it's keeping the face square so you're not kind of seeing this pattern of diving left or pushing right but you're getting this divot pattern where you're kind of throwing your hand a little bit too soon but the face is square because if you think about kind of how the wrist moves okay if you think about how the wrist moves right here it kind of hinges back on itself like this so if i'm doing this my face really isn't doing a whole bunch okay it's not really doing a whole bunch right here so this is what i'm saying that you're doing is you're probably doing this manually too soon which is keeping the face square so you get that perfect dollar bill but you're hitting behind it so what are the common causes fixes for hitting behind the ball well one pushing with your trail hand too soon.
So instead of staying in supination and allowing for proper deviation and rotation right here, you might be starting to supinate and then you're pushing at it with this hand or you're pushing at it with the shoulder this way.
If you stay in supination and your hips and core are pivoting this way, this is going to keep it extremely shallow.
Like almost every single time that I do that too much, I'm bottoming out up here at my lead foot.
So the first thing that I would check is to make sure that you're supinating properly because more than likely you're starting to supinate or you're not supinating at all.
And what's happening is you're just flipping the club.
You're starting to throw this into pronation too soon or into flexion too soon.
Also, what can happen is the fact that you're not moving any weight.
And this kind of goes back to an earlier question with lateral motion and weight and what have you.
if you are just staying back here on your leg like this and you're pushing on the club you're going to hit it fat remember there's still going to be this little bit of recentering and lateral motion as you start to shallow and you start to pivot from this side so if you do hang back and you try to throw it like this that is going to bottom out too soon so i would one check to make sure that you still are getting to your lead side as you're starting to drive right here and also make sure that you're not going into pronation too soon or into collection as well with your wrist because that's why I see players make this mistake all the time where they look at their divot and they're like, oh, I'm swinging perfect.
Look at my divot.
I mean, it gives me some feedback, but it really doesn't tell me everything.
So you can kind of cheat that.
Does ball position change with length of club and goat code? Well, define length of club.
So if you think about kind of going through the whole gambit, as you start with chipping right here, you're going to kind of be going off your back toe.
The same thing with pitching.
So as you're going from a little chip right here and you start to move into a little bit of pitching right here, you're going to kind of be going off that back toe.
And as you start to move into wedge play, you're going to start to be just a little bit more inside this trail foot.
Now, as you move from wedge play and you start hitting a little bit normal shots, I'm just slightly ahead of center right here, so it still kind of has that look of where it's kind of off the lead ear right here.
You want to be careful kind of getting it a little bit too far up, but it's going to kind of be just ahead of center right here.
For all clubs, your 9-iron, your 7-iron, your 5-iron, as you go through your bag and your iron territory, there's no reason to change that ball position.
Because even though the club's getting longer, what adjustment are you going to be making? You're going to be getting taller, okay? Just because you're hitting a seven iron versus a four iron, you didn't grow in between shots.
I mean, if you did, that'd be awesome, but you didn't grow in between shots.
And so as you get a longer club.
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you're going to start to have a little bit of less hinge right here, and you're going to start to get taller.
And that's going to make up for the fact that the club's longer.
But this ball position really doesn't need to vary a lot unless you're trying to do some specialty shots.
And then as you start to get into the woods, and more specifically driver, if you're trying to blast it, I mean, that ball position, when I get here, I'm typically going to be just off this instep right here, just off my lead foot instep.
Because if you look at this position, if you look at my ball, Where is my ball right now? My ball is just slightly ahead of me, and it's almost just slightly ahead of the shoulder right here, which is going to help promote as I start to snap this through here, getting it at a little bit more of a positive angle attack.
All right.
So you can kind of play around with your ball position a little bit, but it doesn't need to vary between each and every club.
You know, that's just going to create a.
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set up nightmare because you're going to be on the course and taking two minutes to try to figure out whether you got a perfect ball position for your seven iron or your six iron.
All right.
Oh, it's already eight o 'clock.
Well, I think that's about all the time that I have.
I see a couple questions on the screen and you'll see a couple pop-ups right now for half off my unlimited during This series right here for the first month and also a live lesson if you want to take it.
I do see some questions popping up right here.
If you can, all right, if you can put those on the community, I promise I will get to you just as every question tonight.
I'm literally just pulling these off the community, clicking the print button and coming out here in front of you guys.
All right.
And gals.
All right.
So if you put them there, I promise you I'll get to you.
But like for me, this screen is like a half a mile away from me.
So it's hard for me.
I don't want to go back and forth.
And when we're talking to players about previous webinars, we kind of get caught up answering questions instead of the presentation.
So if you have it, go get in that community.
I promise I'll get to you.
We've got plenty of time to do it.
I thought I was going to be able to get to 10.
That was my goal.
We will do that in the next session.
And that's actually a fantastic question.
And that might actually take like a 15-minute dissertation, seeing it right now.
So you're in store for a good one on that one.
So thank you for stopping by.
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I appreciate it.
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I don't think it was as good as the first one.
Maybe I'm a little bit more low energy today.
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