1.2 The GOAT Delivery Position (GDP)

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During my study of the GOATs, it kept becoming clear that they deliver and release the club in much the same way, no matter how different their swings may have looked. In this video, I show you how to get into the GOAT Delivery Position (GDP) and how to release the club from there.

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Mark
Which goat video were you referring to please? Also , I can’t open the video now to hear what you said again ?
November 16, 2024
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Chuck
Search for the goat drill. I’m not sure why you can’t open the video. It is opening fine for me.
November 16, 2024
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Mark
forgot to show video

November 16, 2024
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Mark
That’s brilliant thanks so much for your quick reply . Really trying hard to change. I suspected so but it’s been a lifetime 48 yrs of swinging like this and especially too flat and deep coming from inside . Never been able to turn left enough from the top when trying to stay quiet with body . My swing Relies on timing too much. You say that core should rotate automatically when arms swing through . Not sure how to swing core without right shoulder moving like this . Also when you talk about releasing early with wrists , what starts first and what feels like you use to hit ball , core or wrists and arms ?
November 16, 2024
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Chuck
Here you go. Your core isnt firing and that will always force you to shut the face down too soon. Your arms fire too early and core doesnt have a chance to work

November 16, 2024
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Mark
by the way its not a flip adding loft , its a slight shut face as i ofetn hit it too low
November 16, 2024
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Mark
watching this again for the 3rd time. looking at all my swings i have always got in to the GDP well, never over the top, butbfor some reason i nstill keep slightly shutting the face at impact by very slightly rotating my right hand and forearm on the way down and it keeps causing slight pull draws left of target starting left of where aiming. i am off scratch and 61 yrs old and thios is my nemesis, and has been for years, especially i try to release wrists to gain speed from the top. why is this happenning and how can i stop this right forearm and hand rotation to a slight shut face . this is why i find it so hard to fade the ball
November 16, 2024
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Lee
Hello, in trying to get into GDP and hitting shots my right elbow has started to hurt pretty bad. Any ideas on what might be causing this? I know I must be doing something wrong since anything you tell us to do you make sure it isn't injury prone. Thanks for your help!
November 14, 2024
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Chuck
Yep you are “using” your arm. Check out the goat drill in phase 4. Your arms get moved by the core.
November 15, 2024
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Lee
Hmmm ok, don't think I understand exactly but I will check it out and let you know if I do. Thanks!
November 15, 2024
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Chuck
Your elbow hurts because you are pushing the club through with the trail arm. You use your core to move the arms, not the arm by itself. That will always cause elbow pain eventually.
November 15, 2024
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Lee
Oh ok! I was just about to say I watched the video and ask for more clarification. So it's really just the trail wrist that does anything then. Anything I can look for on video specifically to see me doing it wrong? Thanks again Chuck!
November 15, 2024
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Lee
In the GDP video above you talk about using the right arm to push the club through. Did you mean it is used by your core to push the club through or that they work together?
November 15, 2024
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Lee
After rereading your response sounds like you are saying they have to work together. Am I understanding that right? Thanks again for the clarification so I don't hurt myself!
November 15, 2024
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Chuck
The arm itself is not pushing as in “extending from the tricep,” but it is being driven forward by the core
November 15, 2024
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Lee
I just watched the GDP video again and must say it is a bit confusing because it does look like the pros are extending the right arm from GDP to get to the ball. Is that from centrifugal force and throwing with the right wrist? I know I'm the video you say they pushed the left arm with the right arm which is why the left arm is bent but before that did clarify saying it was not really the right arm but right shoulder and core. I am not trying at all to be difficult just having a hard time truly understanding what is happening based on the terminology and what I see but I think I am getting a better understanding of it slowly. It seems like if it is just right shoulder and core that there would be no speed but I guess that is where the right wrist throw comes in to add speed starting from the top to GDP. Sorry I thought I understood until I rewatched the video and got confused again a bit lol. I hope you can understand and thank you so much for your patience with helping me understand. I love all the explanations and videos. It is all extremely helpful!
November 15, 2024
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Chuck
The arm itself isn’t doing much and is being driven by the core as you suggested. Check out the comment from Drew on the goat drill and he describes the feeling of it not feeling powerful but the arms and club whip through with great speed. Efficiency doesn’t FEEL fast. It just IS fast. The fascia stretching and snapping is very efficient
November 16, 2024
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Lee
Ok, thank you!
November 16, 2024
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Tom
You explain really well the reason for my right hand flip. All my playing partners loved the draw I had, but it was from flipping and would result in a pull hook sometimes. Now that I am repping this GDP I no longer have that draw but a slight fade. How do you hit a draw from this position, just release earlier or faster?
November 7, 2024
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Chuck
Yes you just need a tiny amount of release in the hands and the ball will draw no problem
November 8, 2024
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Kalamar
I'm not able to access
November 2, 2024
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Chuck
if you were on a free membership it only allows you access to certain videos, not the full catalog
November 3, 2024
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Chuck
Email cs@rotaryswing.com for support. Are you on a vpn?
November 3, 2024
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Kalamar
Goat code
November 2, 2024
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beybladegen
I'm not able to access this video even though I have got the free trial
November 2, 2024
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Chuck
if you were on a free membership it only allows you access to a small subset of videos. You must become a premium member to access this video.
November 3, 2024
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Chuck
Email cs@rotaryswing.com to get some help
November 3, 2024
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Tom
Chuck this is an aha moment for me; I've been struggling to get the club in this position for years until this video. No matter how many times I tried to "drop" the club in the downswing it just did not happen. It seems so easy after this video and added 15-20 yards on my irons, now I need to rep it.
October 18, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome Tom!
October 18, 2024
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William
I'm confused. In a previous lesson review I was told to keep my left shoulder down and below the right one starting the downswing. For the right elbow to supinate on the downswing Chuck is dropping his right shoulder. Please clarify. Thanks
October 17, 2024
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Chuck
It does down as you start the downswing, it doesn't drop until you get into gdp
October 17, 2024
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Joseph
Yes this all makes sense, I really appreciate the clarity. What I'm concerned about, other than the fact I lose the video image when I hit pause, Is that these golfers DO release the club, they DO pronate that left wrist and the left elbow DOES extend away from the body - ALL of these things happen in the release. The problem I am having is timing the release so that these things do not happen BEFORE contact with the ball. I can tell its going to draw if I'm a bit early I can tell its going to hook like mad if I'm really early but how do you work the timing so that it always happens RIGHT AFTER contact ??
October 14, 2024
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Chuck
You have to use your body first, if you are just using your arms the arm will pronate no matter what you try and do. I'm doing a video that covers this tomorrow for the 60 yd shots so check that out later this week.
October 15, 2024
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Eric
I'm having trouble reconciling the Wide Glide Wide video and how that swing looks, and getting the club into the GOAT delivery position I see in this video. The GOAT delivery position seems to hold the wrist angle while some of the other videos seem to suggest throwing it away before getting into this position. Any clarification would be very helpful as I'm struggling to get this swing working for me. Thanks!!!
October 1, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Eric, as you work your way through the videos in this series it will begin to become more clear as I discuss it more in depth. Working through the new TW GOAT Code in sequence will help tremendously as this question has been asked numerous times and so I cover it in those new videos and webinars. If you start with the smaller strokes as the program lays out, it makes it a 1000x faster to engrain these movements.
October 1, 2024
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Eric
Thanks... will do!
October 1, 2024
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Ryan
Lead-side swings get you into this position too. Is it the same body movement for both?
June 16, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, very similar, just different ways of getting there
June 16, 2024
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Ryan
Is lead side letting the shaft and club fall straight down like Ernie Els says? And Trail side more tucking your elbow into your pocket?
June 16, 2024
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Chuck
Both arrive at the exact same position, it's more a matter of lead side is going to use more body rotation for power and trail side is going to use trail wrist more actively.
June 17, 2024
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Madeleine
How does the GDP video following the Wide video and throwing the club head relate to the very DELIBERATE shoulder down arm move of the right arm for impact?
June 15, 2024
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Chuck
You're not deliberately trying to drop the shoulder, it's dropping as the lower body moves
June 16, 2024
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test
Hello Chuck one thing im really missing out on is the elbows at address. 1. Should the lead elbow point to the target. 2. Should u bend and rotate the trail elbow in. 3. is it okai to have some open shoulder with this setup ?
June 6, 2024
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Chuck
Search for "setup", there are videos that cover this
June 6, 2024
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Michael
Hi, going from the top down to GDP, should it feel like I am actively dropping the trail shoulder like it is one unit with the arms/hands, or should I feel like my hands and arms are dropping into GDP while trying to keep the feeling of trail shoulder higher than lead shoulder? It seems easier to get my hands in front of my body with the first move, but I don't know if that promotes too much secondary axis tilt.
June 3, 2024
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Chuck
The arms should drop into GDP naturally with proper body movement which really has to do with how the hips move like I cover in the wide glide wide drill and the 4 pressure shifts. If you feel like you have to force the trail shoulder low it will unnaturally create too much secondary tilt as you said
June 3, 2024
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Venkatesh
Awesome video. Such a key video for aspiring golfers!!
May 15, 2024
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Mark
This is the piece that confuses me the most! Surely the. delivery position is a result of pulling down keeping the angle . But previously, you told us to widen the arc and release from the top as early as possible. Yet the gDP is hanging on to the angle till late. And if you are swinging at speed and throwing arms away from the top , how can you meet this position?
May 14, 2024
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Patrick
Same question here. I kinda feel there is a contradiction from the previous vids to this one.
June 5, 2024
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Chuck
Your hands are moving faster, so you're not going to lose all your angle as I talked about in the main GOAT Code videos. You're not trying to hold anything, you're getting your hands to accelerate with the clubhead
May 15, 2024
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Anthony
Hi, I want to ask a question about internally rotating the lead/left arm. I totally get the value, it's the timing of when to implement the rotation. I was thinking by the time I hit P2, it should have happened and all I do at the point is maintain the internal rotation until the release has exhausted. Am I close?
May 12, 2024
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Chuck
The arm is gradually internally rotating throughout the swing and more is added during the initial phase of the downswing
May 13, 2024
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Paul
Chuck I find it easy to get into this position without even thinking about. All I do is feel my rt hand wind up in the backswing (max arm external rotation and max rt hand extension/radial deviation. I dont force it but it gives me a hard stop in the backswing. It feels very shallow but on video I’m on the shoulder plane. From there I throw the club like skipping a stone. In video I see my rt arm pretty much stay in same position during the downswing till I get to gdp. My rt elbow simply moves into my side. Only change is my rt wrist is going from radial to ulnar deviation. I’m I doing this right?
May 4, 2024
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Chuck
Sure sounds like it!
May 5, 2024
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Paul
Im sending you a video to review. I finally know what I should be doing in the golf swing. Feels so much more natural. TY
May 5, 2024
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charles
When is your new release video coming?
April 25, 2024
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Chuck
Next week or so
April 25, 2024
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Ronald
Is this for all full shots including wedges
April 20, 2024
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Chuck
yes
April 22, 2024
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Francisco
I just want to post my experience with the goat code so far. It has transformed my swing so much more than I expected. It took me a few weeks of watching the core GOAT code videos and working on what Chuck shows in each video. I've been putting in the reps until i was able to make a proper take away and back swing with little to no tension in my body and then properly throwing the club into it's own orbit. I've been swinging without a ball but I am tracking club head speed. On a good day I used to swing my driver around 95 mph. After training with the GOAT code I can now get up to 120 to 125 mph! And that feels so much easier than what I used to do before! If I swing easier I now average 115 mph with my driver! As good as it feels to swing so easy and get so much club head speed the path and face are so much more consistent than before. I can't wait to hit some balls on the practice range this weekend. Thank you Chuck for all your hard work!
April 12, 2024
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David
What do you feel helped you the most to get a 30 mph increase?
May 15, 2024
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Francisco
Trying to do nothing with the body, and just focusing on throwing from the top the way Chuck talks about in the videos. It wasn't immediate. I first got to 100 from 90, and then got incrementally faster as I got better at it. Throw as fast as you can with the wrists and let your body react. It's no surprise Chuck never talks about the follow thru. When the club goes that fast I feel like it's automatic. I did spend a few weeks with the first few videos getting used to letting the club go into it's own orbit. Big picture is throw the club as fast as you can with the wrists and fingers without using your body to turn.
May 19, 2024
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Chuck
That's incredible! You're going to have to start spotting me strokes! Great job man, going to be a fun summer for you!
April 15, 2024
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Steve
This makes a lot of sense in relation to getting into GDP Can you please put together a video outlining exactly how to get the arms and wrists into position from setup to the top? I struggle with how and when to set the wrists! I can get my Flexion/ Extension numbers in range on HackMotion but Ulnar/ Radial are always too Radial at the top! Would greatly appreciate a Step by step Feeling to get into GTP (Goat Top Position) Thanks Chuck!
April 2, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Steve, it's already in the works. The trick to this is understanding how the trail wrist can fully set without going into a lot of radial deviation with the left - here's a hint, the right wrist has to rotate
April 2, 2024
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Steve
Awesome! I am really excited for that! Without guessing and diving down too many rabbit holes… When I do as you say and take the right arm from GDP and go to the top, if I twist the right wrist clockwise or to the left when looking up at it then place the left that seems to look pretty darn good… I just know that with the HackMotion on, I can’t seem to get any better than +15, which is too radial compared to Thorborne and most pro examples…
April 2, 2024
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Chuck
Ya if the right wrist rotates clockwise it puts it in a position where it can't radially deviate very much and that cuts it down dramatically. Also the backswing needs to happen very very fast and this also prevents the wrist from setting too much as the pressure shift back to the lead side helps shorten the swing. Ask the GOAT Bot these questions - it already knows a lot of these answers
April 2, 2024
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Steve
Hey Chuck, Can you use the HackMotion with this video that you are putting together? I have no issues with hitting my numbers for flexion/extension… I feel this likely holds true for many? However it’s Ulnar/Radial deviation (Excessive wrist cock) where I run into trouble. Can you provide us with the GOAT “FEEL” for takeaway to the top position to help limit wrist cock and maintain a straight wrist? I asked the GOAT Bot… The response pointed to needing what I’m asking for! Thanks to you and the HackMotion, I have come to realize this is my biggest issue! If I can fix this, I think my swing will be pretty damn good! I really want to stay away from swing thoughts! But definitely need a feel to accomplish this as I just wrist cock way too easily, very ingrained… Thanks so much!!! Steve
April 5, 2024
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Chuck
Yep! I just did a lesson today that i'm going to be sharing with how this all fits together, so stay tuned over the next few days...
April 5, 2024
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Steve
That’s great news! Can’t wait to see it, put it to work and tie it all together!!! Thanks Chuck!
April 5, 2024
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Steve
I did try the bot… Real Chuck is still better! My biggest issue is the backswing… When I speed up the backswing, I find I extend and radial deviate a lot… So this next video is a huge game changer for me! I think if I had a solid understanding from set up to top and a simple feel to get there I will see massive improvements! Thanks again!
April 2, 2024
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Staale
How do you combine this move with the throw from the top Chuck? Regards Staale, Norway
March 29, 2024
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Chuck
The throw is happening while you're moving left, which helps move the arms into this position. People seem to interpret the throw as a cast where the hands don't move for some reason, that's not what's happening.
March 29, 2024
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Staale
Ok. This is pretty similar to Mike Austins swing. /Staale
March 29, 2024
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Michael
I'm trying to overcoming the 'chicken wing' issue in my swing. When I practice the 'wide glide wide' drill, my left arm maintains good form. However, as soon as I introduce a ball into my swing, the issue reappears. Could you recommend strategies to help me eliminate this problem?
March 16, 2024
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Chuck
It's likely that you are trying to add too much power with the right side of the body/arm and that's why it shows up when hitting a ball. Try hitting a ball with your trail arm feeling dead and if the problem goes away, there's your culprit. FYI, it's almost always incorrectly using the right arm that causes this issue!
March 17, 2024
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Chris
Getting my lead arm protracted and in a better position in GDP is a big improvement for those of us who early extension / hump the fire hydrant…it’s also helping the impact numbers using the Hackmotion which is a great reinforcement .
March 15, 2024
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Chuck
I'm guessing you're seeing more flexion at impact?
March 15, 2024
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Chris
Correct . My first runs using the Hackmotion pre working on GDP were: 64% Too Extended (36% in range) 59% Too Extended (38% in range) Post working on GDP ( when you spoke about the left shoulder protracted early in the vid , I paused and tested this ) Within a few shots only; 24% Too extended (71% in range) 24% too extended (76% in range) My top position started to be more flexed too but I can sort that with more practice.
March 15, 2024
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Paul
Hi Chuck, I'm loving what your more recent series is giving me. All these years, all the books,all the reasearch and videos - and as you say, it's all about the release. At this stage the only instruction, advise or tips I will even look at is yours and Padraig Harrington - a huge believer that 75-80% of your club-head speed is delivered by your arms, wrists and hands. The fact that he is a fellow countryman is beside the point! This latest move is the icing on the cake I've been looking for - getting the club into that delivery point and how to do it is a real light-bulb moment for me. One question - Driver Vs, irons, Vs Fairway Woods, Vs hybrids - are we looking at exactly the same delivery and swing thoughts & release with the only variation being initial set-up, axis tilt difference etc? Keep up the good work. PS I know you have always struggled with the flat stick - as have I. Back end of last year I started working on actively releasing the club head through impact instead of trying to hold it square to the target line. Massive improvement. Just thought I'd share.
March 12, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Paul, yes always the same with every club in the bag, you only want one swing. Thanks for the tip on the putter but it's not my stroke as much as the read.
March 14, 2024
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David
The whole G.O.A.T. series has been so helpful. This video and the last couple on the GDP have been instrumental in giving me a better understanding of what's going on in my swing. Got a few drives off at lease 260 maybe 270m. It felt effortless. All I did all day was focus on th GDP. I FLEW a 5i 20 past the flag on a 168m pin. [Got up & down anyway) That a super 5i in my book. I have to recalculate all my distances etc again ... good problem to have. I still have a way to go but im confident I'll get the consistency in good time with the certainty that i have a good idea of where im i am needing to focus my practicec and learning. I sooooo appreciate your inquiring mind & curiosity to keep digging so that you could explain all this to us humble golf addicted tragics who also want that extra 1% and want to enjoy the beautiful game. Thanks Chuck!!!
March 11, 2024
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Chuck
That's awesome! You're welcome!
March 11, 2024
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David
You're Welcome Chuck. I'm looking forward to the next instalment.
March 11, 2024
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Asle
I assume the Axiom is still at work here with its clockwise motion? It's worth mentioning, to tie this to what's going on here?
March 11, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, still the same move
March 11, 2024
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Angelo
When I try to get into GDP with the trail shoulder/arm externally rotated, I leave the clubface open and hit pushes and slices. Do I need a stronger grip? I feel like I have to release the club really forcefully to square the face from the GDP. Any thoughts Chuck?
March 10, 2024
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Chuck
The arm is in neutral in gdp not externally rotated. If that’s ok then yes your grip is probably off
March 10, 2024
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Harry
Hi Chuck, I am struggling to understand releasing from the top, widening, with create maintain release lag mantra that you often quote. In these pictures all the golfers have clearly maintained lag? I also struggle with another contradiction, you used to tell us that if we swung with our arms we didn’t have enough muscle mass to generate the required force/speed. You now say we can do it all with just hand speed as that’s most efficient. Is it because you’re trying to teach by feel rather than real? This isn’t criticism as I am a big fan of your Goatcode and it is already improving my golf but I would just like to understand.
March 10, 2024
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Chuck
See my response to this question below
March 10, 2024
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Mike
Working from the widening the wrists video how does that video from the top of the swing widening our wrists get you to the club parallel to the ground position and the impact position show here? Just looking for a more in dept explanation on how to get from top of backswing to impact using the widening thought and the pre impact and impact thoughts. Thanks!
March 9, 2024
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Chuck
See my response to Richard below...
March 9, 2024
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Steve
THANK YOU!!!! Thank you so much for this GOAT Series and for putting it all together with HackMotion!!! I couldn’t have asked for a more perfect program to improve my game, give me a better understanding of how to fix my issues and finally have that FEEL to eliminate swing thoughts!!! I am a bit of a golf nerd when it comes to the swing, mechanics and the history! This was truly amazing Chuck!!! Learning about the swings of the GOATS and how to train and learn what they feel… Incredible sir!!! All I can say is every part of the GOAT Series has truly resonated with me this offseason and my swing is truly feeling more effortless than ever! Numbers on the HackMotion are really improving and starting to match up more and more! Keep up the great work! I will report back when I have a chance to really dial in with some solid practice! ( damn working for a living…lol…) Great work! Steve B Cheers, Steve
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
Thanks for the feedback Steve! Glad you’re enjoying it! I have enjoyed looking deeply at the goats swings and seeing just how similar they are in so many critical ways.
March 8, 2024
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Gary
I've been a fan of your site for many years now but this video in particular shows just how you would never find this GDP by trial and error. I now know it is right but on my own I would never have thought to try it, never mind persevere with it. Thank you for showing us, demonstrating it and proving it with the GOATs I have long thought that there were people who "got it" (the swing) and the vast majority (80%?) who didn't. Those that "got it" played great golf; those that didn't struggled for a lifetime despite diligent efforts. This is probably part of what we don't get. Perhaps with this video you have finally managed to unlock the first "secret" for the rest of us. And it might explain why the majority good/great golfers just can't teach it.....because they "got it" but didn't even know what they had "got"....it was natural for them. [Just think of the earlier video of a 5-year old Tiger]. They were as puzzled as to why everybody didn't get "it" as the rest of us were puzzled that we couldn't get "it". The only thing that saved me was a lot of hard work to get a decent short game (to make up for the lack of "easy" power). Thank You
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
You’re re welcome Gary and I agree 100%. It’s a somewhat strange and unnatural motion that most wont magically stumble upon. It’s interesting to me that the goats all did it and most golfers kind of do the opposite instinctively
March 8, 2024
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Stephen
How do you do this/get that GDP feel without slicing the ball? I'm finding that I can hit that position on video but leave the clubface wide open at impact.
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
First place to check would be your grip. With a proper grip it's really hard NOT to square the face, especially with a proper right hand grip.
March 8, 2024
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Venkatesh
Hi Chuck This arm at GDP is absolutely a fantastic feeling and an awakening. As you know, i have been working so hard at this over the last few months all the way from the feeling of “skimming a rock over the water” to the GOAT code. The GDP rounds out the Goat Code in my opinion and resonates with me so well! I absolutely love the feeling and, everything falls into place so well, automatically without a whole bunch of swing thoughts. The way you explain is great making you the GOATrainers in the world. Over the last few months I have gone from over the top, early extending to some of the best ball striking rounds of my life! Shot a 77 last Wednesday, tee to green and two putts were the norm!! Thanks Chuck. Keep it coming. You are the best!
March 7, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you V! We're slowly getting to the bottom of what the GOATs did and it turns out they were just making their lives easier by doing some things that on the surface don't seem that obvious. It's cool to me how through the hitting area they did things in such a similar way even though other parts of their swings looked so different.
March 8, 2024
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Ron
Chuck, you said the how to was the tricky part. I think your explanation on the how to is incredibly clear and easy to understand. I find your communication skills to be your best attribute, keep up the great work.
March 7, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you Ron!
March 8, 2024
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Tyler
This is awesome. I've been working on dropping my arms into that same position but this provides more clarity. The best part is that it almost automatically transfers your weight and opens your hips because your lower body needs to get the heck out of the way. It's just a natural, athletic motion. Good stuff sir.
March 7, 2024
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Chuck
You got it! The GOATs did these movements naturally so there must be a natural way to do it!
March 7, 2024
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Tyler
I just kind of think in my head......drop and release. Drop and release.
March 7, 2024
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David
Chuck, way to simplify the most important part of the golf swing and give us the key steps and information on how to attain the most allusive parts of the GOAT's swings with EFFORTLESS POWER! I feel like you are delivering the SECRETS to what everyone who plays golf strives for in their swing. Keep it coming as you become more aware of what is important for us Amateurs to focus on in such simplified terms! This is a GOAT MASTERCLASS! Thank you again for your continued passion to pursue this knowledge and then to turn around and deliver it back to us Amateur's on what we need to do to mimic the Pros (who probably don't know what they are doing anyway)!
March 6, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you David, we're making headway...
March 7, 2024
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Richard
Great video. How do we combine this with the “throw from the top” motion and still maintain the “wide” angle of the elbow and wrist in the downswing.
March 6, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Richard thanks! Im not sure I understand the question?
March 6, 2024
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Richard
Sorry. I’m probably just doing this incorrectly. But by using the throwing motion at the top of the swing to start the downswing as you show in another video, that would seem to be straightening the right arm more than you are showing in this video.
March 6, 2024
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Chuck
Ahhh. Go back and watch that one again and pay attention to where i am talking about how this allows the hands to move faster. You dont just straighten your arm. That would be a weak throw and leave you nothing left to hit with at the bottom.
March 6, 2024

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