3.2 The GOAT Takeaway

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Chris
Would you say this takeaway feeling is the same for every club ? in different doses ..
June 25, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chris. Yes. Minor variations depending on shot.
June 25, 2025
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Benjamin
Tiger turns his shoulders relatively flat compared to what you’re showing especially when he was at his best in the first half of the swing getting most of his tilt from his pelvis.. You’re using an example of him showing a young lady the opposite of what she’s doing as how he takes the club away??? It’s confusing because the only time he ever took the club away like this was when he was with Sean Foley and couldn’t hit a fairway with a driver to save his life partially because he had lowered so much in his backswing that it led him to running out of space… I’m confused on how you say he’s left tilting like this so early when in fact if you look at his swing from butch era and when he worked with cuomo he’s absolutely staying taller and not left bending early and hits it a billion times better
June 23, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Benjamin. I believe you are misreading the information. We aren't trying to get your shoulders that steep which had to do with the amount he bent over with Foley. You can even tell from our older videos how we warned Tiger would hurt his back with Foley swing change. Just rotate your shoulders on plane.
June 24, 2025
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Steven
This one is interesting. I’ve been a right hand dominant player my whole life. Have tried the left, but ultimately the right hand is what I like to use that being said. I prefer to feel like my wrists do a lot of bending and this takeaway combined with the grip, among to a “constricted” feeling. I have don’t a lot a lot of work on my takeaway over the years so transitioning to this isn’t the hardest thing. Lucky enough I have been working on the load. So far I am pretty good at getting into the right hip but am struggling but am struggling to feel the satisfaction of the weight shift left. So this isn’t the hardest adjustment to make to my golf swing. That being said I practiced this and my god. The right wrist felt more powerful than any single time I can remember. It really is a testament to your incredible work here. I have been moving my grip to a position where I can hinge the shit out of the club. So this most likely would have taken me years to stumble upon.
June 11, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks for the post Steven and the feedback. Looking forward to hearing about more new discoveries in your move!
June 12, 2025
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Peter
Hi, I have just had my first review with Anthony who recommended this video amongst other. This is very different for me and feels like I am loading. Regarding the glass pane I am seeing my left shoulder run along my toes where before I could not see my toes when I turned too flat. It feels a lot more of a tilt, is this the same feeling as the glass pane?
May 10, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Peter. The backswing is a combo of rotation, side bend and extension. Since you've been rotating too flat it may feel a little tilty at first to maintain the proper glass pane instead of breaking or swing too far underneath it.
May 10, 2025
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Alex
Great video. I've always had issues with this basic but very important aspect of the swing.
April 2, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Alex!
April 2, 2025
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allison
Hey Chuck, I have two questions for you. The first is does this move (left shoulder drop) for the takeaway, apply for all shots: chips, pitches, and full swings? Also, does the left shoulder drop play a bigger role in the takeaway than moving your core, or do they both work hand in hand?
March 29, 2025
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Chuck
The left shoulder is going down because of how your core is moving not the other way around and it applies to all shots
March 30, 2025
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Eddie
Wow getting the lead shoulder down instead of around was eye opening. Ive been playing for a long time rotating the shoulders instead of tilting and I was always timing up everything. This change made my swing feel so much more simple and I could finally feel my trail hip get loaded and push me to my lead side.
March 25, 2025
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Chuck
Very exciting Eddie!
March 26, 2025
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Kendall
Chuck, I’m still filming my swing and every time there is a huge gap between my legs at the top of the backswing. I feel like maybe I’m doing this wrong and making it nearly impossible to get the overall swing right because of it. My lead side knee is pushed forward quite a bit while my trail side is as straight as could be creating a huge gap and no matter what I do I can’t seem to stop doing it. My question is in reference to the full backswing… does most of the rotation/twisting to get from address to the top of the backswing happen from the shoulders or hips? I know the correct answer is the core but even when using the core, it only gets you so far back…so what makes up the difference? I feel like over the years I have incorrectly trained my body to use my hips to get to the top causing this huge gap in my knees and I’m still doing it with the goat program. When I see you or the pros swing, the gap is minimal, almost like you are rotating more with your shoulders and minimal hip turn (though I know it’s all through the core). Thanks for any explanation you can provide.
March 13, 2025
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Kendall

March 13, 2025
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Chuck
Look at how much your head is dropping during the backswing and there is your answer.
March 13, 2025
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Craig
Takeaway looks great …good with left arm sliding down pane of glass with club just outside hands at P2. At that point I’m a little confused as to wrist movement between P2&P3…Does left wrist begin to flatten as it rotates up to finish backswing?
March 10, 2025
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Craig
The takeaway focus to slide on a pane of glass with focus on arm alignment towards back of trail foot is one of the magic moves…. I needed that reminder…. Energy stores against right side with this move just begging to be transferred to downswing… after several repetitions my wrists fell in line…. Great video
March 11, 2025
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Gary
What is the direction of push from the lead foot? I find myself at times with the lead knee collapsing/flexing pass my toe. Thank you.
March 10, 2025
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Chuck
In the takeaway it's getting load to push the lead hip back in the downswing which means it's actually pulling the lead foot away from the target line to get ready to push in the opposite direction
March 10, 2025
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Scott
Great explanation. I nearly dislocated my shoulder trying my old backswing against a wall. Where should we have the camera set up? Is down the target line best of or in line with the hands at setup?
February 25, 2025
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Chuck
in between the ball and your body is good
February 26, 2025
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Tom
Hi Chuck, are you still promoting that rotation of the torso is started by the shoulder glide, left shoulder going down or combo of the two? I had a few reviews that said I was moving my right shoulder up towards my head.
February 24, 2025
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Chuck
Hi Tom, that is a good way to initiate the swing, but I'm doing a new series of videos this week that takes a deeper dive into what is really happening deep in the core to dial this in.
February 24, 2025
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Chris
Can you explain the feeling or movement that finishes the take away?
January 2, 2025
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Chuck
The movement that finishes the Takeaway is the downswing and other words the Takeaway is not some separate move. It is just a point you pass through on the back swing.
January 3, 2025
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Chris
Thank you for the fast response, Chuck. I should have been more descriptive with my question. At what point do I start bending my trail arm, and what are the feels that start the downswing? I have benefited greatly in my golf game when I follow your instruction properly. You have a believer in me on this program, THANKS!
January 3, 2025
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Chuck
The trail arm starts bending right after the takeaway and watch the goat drill and magic of supination as well as the waggle to get the feeling of starting the downswing.
January 3, 2025
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John
Absolutely love this video. It has truly made a huge difference in my swing. It just helped me to discover a feel that I’ve been trying to manufacture. Up till I watched this it felt like I was forcing myself into it but after working through the drills, man, does this feel EASY. Still progressing (dynamically) up in speed as I relearn what my previous coach undid somehow but just feels so much easier. And that’s really the only word I can think of for it. It was 25 degrees at sea level and I wash flushing the ball with every swing (zero distance lost with temp). Also hit my longest drive ever at 307!!!! Super excited to see what happens in normal temps.
December 30, 2024
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Chuck
YES!!! Awesome man!!!
December 30, 2024
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L
How does this go with the 4 pressure shift and goat theory backswing?
September 18, 2024
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Chuck
In what regard?
September 19, 2024
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Ricky
Going back over a lot of these and really focusing on core engagement as I think that was missing with me for some reason the first go around. After doing this take away with the core focus for a number of reps, should it feel like I just got done doing an abb workout?
September 2, 2024
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Chuck
Keep in mind in the swing this is happening very fast, but while you're learning it, you may feel this way, but in the end it shouldn't feel like a workout.
September 3, 2024
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Jeff
You mentioned at time mark 4:40ish that you could "feel as though you were coming over the top" as opposed to dropping or shallowing out the club (which is not natural). Did you mean to say that (over the top)? I'll see you on tonights "Live".
August 29, 2024
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Jeff
Chuck, after reviewing the video again, I discovered that earlier in this video (before the 4:40ish time mark, which I mentioned in the earlier comment) you said that Tiger "feels" like he's coming over the top in the downswing. I understand now, that it's a "feeling". By eliminating the shallowing move it makes the swing simpler with less moving parts.
August 30, 2024
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Chuck
Yep, exactly, Tiger actually does come down steeper than he goes back often, especially when hitting a cut.
August 30, 2024
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Christopher
Played a round today shot 85. Could have been a lot better I had two 3 putt holes and one triple blow up hole. I incorporated the takeaway drill into my pre shot routine. Majority of Driver were left not hooks just a left may have been an alignment issue. What I'm excited about I pured more iron shots than misses. There were a few toe hits but far and few between. I've never broken 80 on my home course (128 Slope Rating) I'm confident this is a possibility which is exciting to think about. Still a lot of work to do though. Thank You Chuck and Craig
August 11, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome man! You are trending in the right direction!
August 11, 2024
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David
Hey Chuck. It seems like there are a couple differences here between this video and the "refining the GOAT backswing" from earlier this year. 1) Rather than taking the hands down the line, the hands now are supposed to go slightly inside with the clubhead remaining outside the hands. 2) As a result of this newer takeaway move, the club will be slightly more toe-down (as opposed to neutral) as we move through the end of the takeaway. This will come close to matching the spine angle. Am I understanding these differences correctly or are they just optical illusions?
August 11, 2024
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Chuck
Hi David, what you guys are working through is how to do it exactly like Tiger
August 11, 2024
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David
Understood. I’m just trying to understand if there are actual differences between the two videos. And if there are, which should I be focused on. Thanks
August 11, 2024
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Chuck
If you're in this group working with me then you should focus on what we're doing and the new videos
August 11, 2024
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Talmadge
I was playing and hitting the ball so far and pure with every stroke of the club that I was asked to please move from the white to the championship tees. Still my aim was pure, long and straight. Par after par with the occasional birdie I played and scored as if I was having an out of body,”Tiger”, experience!!!! Then I woke from my nap , on the couch but still had that feeling inside me. The mental part of the game that will help to put the icing on the cake once I have continued with my perfect practice, working with Chuck and Craig. Letting go of the old, ingraining the new but never forgetting to have fun and dream big! Thanks again , this journey is so fun!!!!
August 10, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome man! So good to get feedback like this!
August 11, 2024

Once you have a proper grip and a proper setup, the takeaway is going to seem very simple.

It's going to start to kind of fall into place and be a very natural movement for you.

And I'm going to give you checkpoints and a very important drill that's going to help walk you through how to get the takeaway.

Exactly like the goat.

So once you're set up correctly, to start the club back, what you're going to feel are a couple things.

I'm going to give you a couple checkpoints first.

The first thing that you're going to start to check is this lead arm.

Once the club shaft is parallel to the ground, at the end of the takeaway, this lead arm should look like it's angling back behind your foot with an iron.

With the driver, it's going to be a little bit more toward the foot, but with a mid iron, like a six iron, like I have here, you're going to find that it's going to go back and angle back behind you.

But the club head has got to stay outside your hands.

That's why getting this arm set up the way that I showed you during the setup video is so important.

Because if it's not, and it's protracted this way, it's going to be so easy for the arm and wrist to do this and dump the club inside.

So instead, what you want to feel is that your shoulders are more or less tilting to start the takeaway.

And the drill that I'm going to show you in the second half of this video is going to show you exactly how to do this, but I'm going to give you the checkpoint first.

So now my arm is angled back behind my foot.

And now I want you to look at the club face, the arm and my spine actually all match.

So all of these angles should look exactly the same.

And what that's going to show me is that I did really nothing with my arms and hands to start the swing.

I'm doing it primarily with getting my body to tilt, my shoulders to tilt and my hip to kick back.

Now, you've no doubt seen Tiger do this really funky looking drill a couple of times, where he's doing this or this and trying to kick his hip out.

What he's trying to do there is trying to load properly.

Like I just showed you during the takeaway, when you look at it from face on, instead of trying to turn, which is going to get the club wanting to go way around and inside, I'm going to, like, I'm going to show you in the drill in just a moment, slide my shoulder down, and that's going to push the club back.

And in order to do that, as my shoulder goes down, my hip needs to feel like it goes this way rather than turning.

And that's a very different concept.

But what Tiger's doing in his swing is getting himself loaded up in such a way that, as the club, feels like it's going more inside on the way down, he gets to feel like he's coming over the top.

And you'll see that the position of his arms is very different from the takeaway to the downswing.

His arms are much more out in front of him.

And the reason that's so important is because it's so difficult for most golfers to go to the top and then wait and shallow out the club.

It's not really a natural movement.

Swinging over the top is very natural.

It's what most all golfers want to do.

By copying Tiger's takeaway move of getting this hip to kick out, which I'll talk more about in a moment, and going back, my trail leg straightening instead of turning, which we see all the time, people trying to rotate their hips and rotate their hips.

It's a very difficult way to try and swing the club.

But if I'm sliding this shoulder, so if you imagine a pane of glass on my arm, which Tiger talks about, I'm going to show you a clip in just a moment, my arm sliding down that pane of glass, rather than going out this way, what that's going to do is my hip is going to go back.

It's going to help me get into this hip and my leg is going to straighten.

Instead of my knee turning out like this, I want my knee to feel like it just goes straight back during the takeaway.

And that makes room for my arms to go more inside.

If this knee is turning and my hip is turning, I create a lot of momentum for the club to going to want to swing out of control behind me.

But as I start thinking about tilting my shoulders this way, that's going to make my hip want to go this way.

And then of course, as I'm tilting and turning that shoulder going down, that creates the look of rotation of the swing, but I'm not really turning my body.

So it's more of what's going to feel like this shoulder going down, which is going to drive the hip back this way, which is going to straighten the knee slightly.

And that's going to make the club feel like it goes more inside with my arm pointing more this way, club, club face, arm and spine are all matching each other.

And from here, as I continue this to the top, I can then feel like I'm swinging more over the top.

I don't have to try and wait for that club to shallow because it's such a difficult, unnatural move.

So now let's go inside.

I'm going to show you a phenomenal drill.

That's going to help you understand how to make this movement super natural.

And then you can feel, instead of trying to feel like you've got a weight at the top and drop it under and shallow, you can feel like you swing straight over the top.

And that's exactly what Tiger feels at his swing.

Here's a quick clip of Tiger helping another golfer understand how to create this proper movement in your swings.

Not to have your hands go up like that.

Try and feel as if there's a plane of glass across your left arm.

And you try and keep that left arm up against that plane of glass that keeps your hands down.

And then she won't have this reroute that she has this way and this way and then a high handle.

That'll get the handle a little bit lower by keeping this connected a little more, club more in front.

And I'll get the handle lower and more stable.

A simple drill just have, just go up on a mirror and just make sure that you look, as you look back on the mirror, that your, your club is not behind your hands.

You know, when your club is all waist high.

It's still, you want to keep it more in line.

If not, maybe just a touch in front for now.

And then it'll kind of even itself out.

But this, this back here, man, that's a, that's just a recipe for having a high handle and having to time a lot of shots.

So as you just heard Tiger talking there, if you just feel that the upper part of your arms slides down this wall, an imaginary glass pane or wall, that will get you the feeling of a proper takeaway.

But just looking at yourself in a mirror, in my experience, most golfers need a little bit more help than that.

You need to feel something.

So in order to feel this, all you need is a wall that's a corner, an outside corner.

So the wall goes like this and then backs in here.

So for a right handed golfer, I want my lead shoulder to be on the flat and I need the corner to go away from me.

Because I'm going to have to put my head down this part of the wall.

So what I'm going to do, what I want you to do is get your eye roughly in line with the corner of the wall with your setup.

So that's about how far you're going to set up away from the wall.

Take your normal setup.

You don't have to do it with a club.

You can do it with or without a club.

But if you do it with just your arms in position and get the wall, the split, the corner of the wall, right about just ahead of the center of your stance.

That's where your, the side of your head is going to be.

That's where the ball would be roughly.

What you want to feel instead of going this way and turning and ramming into that wall with your eye, even with the corner of the wall, You want to feel like your shoulder and your hand slide down that wall, and that your hand path starts to go immediately to the inside.

If you're somebody who's used to doing a lot of rolling with your arms and dumping the club inside, you're going to find that you'd want to go way outside and break that wall.

This imaginary plane of glass here.

You want to feel that as your shoulder slides down this wall and your arm slides down this wall, That it drives your hand inside so that you can get the angle of your arm pointing back behind your foot.

As you start feeling this, you'll start feeling that your hip needs to work like Tiger's doing that exaggerated drill.

Now, of course, you don't want to roll to the outside of your foot.

It's mostly going straight back, but in order to really get into that hip and get into that proper load, you'll see my pants kind of crease like this as I go back into that hip.

As my shoulder slides down that wall, instead of turning really flat, like so many golfers do, that's going to drive that hip this way.

Get me deep into that hip.

Straighten that leg a little bit.

That knee is going to go straight back instead of rotating like this, and so now all that's happening from this guiding motion of sliding my arm down that wall, getting my hands to go inside, and I will have a perfect takeaway.

Now, let's look at this with doing it with a club.

Now that you have the idea of how to move your shoulders to get them steep, and this is very important because most golfers turn, and this gets everything really flat in the swing, but the ball is on the ground, and so we need to get the club to go up to hit the ball down on the ground, and to do that, we need the shoulder to go down.

If you look at Tiger Swing, the first thing that happens is that lead shoulder immediately starts to work down, and most golfers start to work around.

So that's why that wall drill with the corner is so important to help you feel how to load properly in the swing, and if I start to do this with the club, you'll find that the club head will stay outside my hands.

Now, if I start to do something with my wrists and my hands, or I turn flat, it gives the club head too much momentum, and it just kind of flings around inside.

So what you're going to practice is as you're sliding down that imaginary plane of glass with your upper arm, you don't want to be breaking that glass by turning really flat, you're going to feel like you slide down it, now of course your shoulder is going to go forward a little bit, of course it is, but you just don't want to feel like you're turning flat, it's going to feel more of a tilt.

And that's why I had you put the corner of the wall on your eye, because that gives room for your shoulder to naturally go more out toward the ball, even though you feel like you're sliding it straight down.

And as you feel that, you'll find that if you keep your hands and wrists nice and quiet, you'll have no problem keeping the club head outside your hands.

Now also, if you recall, we were talking about that supination that you had it set up, it's very important that you maintain that if you start to pronate, what's going to happen to that club, it's going to dump it inside.

If you start to pronate your trail arm, It's going to start to make it very easy where it wants to bend, and then you're going to have this very kind of narrow, collapse looking golf swing.

In order to load properly, you're going to feel that both arms stay supinated throughout the swing, and that's what helps keep the club in line with your hands as you go back.

And then from there, as you go back to the top, it's such a small move if you get this takeaway right.

And if you're set up correctly and you've got that shoulder protracted, you're going to find that to get to the top of the swing from there, it's just a little bit of extra movement.

And that momentum that you're going to have in the swing is going to take care of that.

But if you can just focus on getting this takeaway right, your hip getting deeper, your trail legs straightening up instead of rotating, don't lock it out and hyperextend it, of course.

It's just going to straighten a little bit.

As you get deeper into this hip and start loading this hip, slide that shoulder and arm down the wall.

Keep both arms supinated, your wrists nice and quiet, and you'll have a perfect takeaway with one simple feel.

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