Drill to Learn Inside Path to Golf Ball

Tired of the over the top slice? This drill and training aid will teach you how to approach the golf ball from the inside.

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Stefan
My practice swing is reasonable, but when the ball comes into play, I throw my arms out in the downswing, even when I look at a second ball close to the ball which I play. Any tips how to improve this?
March 7, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stefan. The issue is your hit instinct wants to take over with the ball. You will tend to revert back to older movement patterns. Not to be simple about it, but you have to take the fear out of what the ball will do and expectation of the upcoming shot. You should be so hyper-focused on the move that even if you whiff it, but the move was correct you are nearer the goal.
March 7, 2021
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Ray
Thanks for the recent review Craig. When doing this drill should you leave the weight preset on the front leg and just do small swings to ingrain inside path? Have continued with the 3-9 drill with lead arm only working on LOADING first then rotating shifting and posting. Have been doing this drill with the bag as i find this also visually helps to ingrain inside path. When i do this I've taken the thumb and index finger off the club as i find it helps chill the arm and the club shallows out on the downswing if that makes sense. Is that okay? I'm doing this drill both with(foam ball) and without the ball.
August 10, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ray. No problem for the review. Perfectly fine to take the thumb/index off. You can do a few from a preset front leg position. But, ideally I would like a little weight because it is one of the biggest contributors in shallowing out the club.
August 10, 2020
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Tom
I have been practicing with a an alignment rod just outside the ball. I have consciously been trying to swing from the inside ("think out to right field") and consistently hit the alignment stick after the ball, So my club is going outside after impact rather than routing back around, either down the line or back to the left. The ball should be the apex of an arc, correct?
May 20, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. The ball placement should be just inside of the lead shoulder socket (logo of the shirt/off of the lead ear).
May 20, 2019
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Chad
so should your impact position be exactly the same whether your hitting a driver or a wedge? What I mean is should I be focusing on releasing the club the same or with a wedge should it be more of a body release for control?
April 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chad. Impact will be different, but the release will be the same. Irons will be more of a negative angle of attack, versus positive with a driver. However, swing and release stay the same, but the setup will vary. Only when you start doing finesse, or penetrating type wedge shots will the release become more body oriented.
April 30, 2019
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Martin
I like this drill and the other 2 on lag and impact position. Also I think they stack very well with the Perfect Your Golf Impact series. I'd suggest updating the description of these to recommend that the first couple of hundred or so of every 1000 reps are coupled with the appropriate impact cube video.
September 21, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Martin for the suggestion. I'm glad that you like the drill as well.
September 21, 2018
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Nathan
I understand this drill and the concept of getting the club to come from the inside path. But my question is if I've gotten to the point where I'm hitting down on the ball with my irons but to hit it straight would I not want to have my club path at impact to hit a straight ball coming from slightly out to in?
July 15, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nathan. The club path must be traveling straight at the time of maximum compression in order for the ball to travel straight down the target line. Your swing direction (measured as roughly knee to knee) must be going slightly out to in, assuming you are hitting down on the ball, in order for the path to be straight . Rotary Swing generally speaking is going to yield a slight draw. Swing direction and club path will only match one another at the exact bottom of the swing arc.
July 15, 2018
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Nathan
Absolutely, I totally understand all of that referencing the D plain, so rotary swing is a draw based system? And I've been having conflict shallowing out the swing plane and hitting the golf ball slightly out to in -4 degrees by using my lower body to start the swing and not come over the top.
July 15, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Nathan. If you follow the program through from the beginning, yes a slight draw is probably close to what you will end up with. I'm understanding you to mean you've struggled coming over the top in the past, is that correct? Check out some of the 'golf swing transition' videos on the site, that part of the swing is where a lot of the shallowing out happens. Usually, a club path consistently within a few degrees of the target line on one side is good, depending of course on your preferences or what type of shot is desired.
July 15, 2018
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Nathan
Oh yea in the past I have, and I have watched alot of the videos in each section and have a very good understanding of the concepts, would it be safe to reference Ben Hogan concept on skipping a rock on the pond or a baseball player throwing a ball sidearm? I have had some sucess with thos concepts and It seems to look like the positions in video like what Chuck is talking about.
July 15, 2018
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Nathan
My biggest fear right now with my lower body is to much hip bump or squat to square and end up getting the shaft stuck behind me, right now I'm working on the belt buckle drill to get back on top of it, ive worked so hard on the over the top for so long I don't want it to ever happen again lol
July 15, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Throw the ball drill is what I had in mind for right hand only, sorry for that.
July 15, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Nathan, given that you described a slightly steep swing plane and -4 degrees (club path?), it doesn't sound like you are moving too far laterally and getting stuck yet. Too much lateral hip movement usually shallows out the plane excessively and would likely result in positive swing directions and thus club paths. I was one of these players in the past and regularly saw more than 4 degrees postive. The sidearm idea is touched upon in a right arm only drill, so yes you may be on the right track there. That and the frisbee drill are great for sequencing the downswing. Keep working and if you have continued access to a radar system, take note of how the numbers are changing, particularly after working these drills.
July 15, 2018
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Nathan
I referenced the right arm only drill after your comment yesterday and went to the driving range affer work and had a fantastic session, I noticed a difference between the iron swings and the 10 shots I hit with the driver after though. Irons I hit down on and they went straight, I used the same swing with the driver and hit a very small pull draw, but noticed it flew straight if I had a slight out to in with the driver and hit up on it, any videos that can explain the difference of the two swings, or any insight in your personal experence?
July 16, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Mostly it comes down to the difference in attack angle with the driver. I will typically plan for a slight "pull" and aim right because of the tendency to catch it a couple degrees positive. The bomb your driver series explains these adjustments well. For consistency, you can take the same stock swing and just plan on hitting very slightly down with the driver. Based on PGA Tour averages, this seems to be the preferred method even though you will not maximize driver distance without a positive attack angle. Again, there's room for personal preference here.
July 16, 2018
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Nathan
Very cool I will give that a look and hit the range, thank you for your help! ill be in touch if I have any more questions
July 16, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Our pleasure Nathan, keep in touch.
July 16, 2018
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GC
is it possible to draw from top (bird angle down) of the ellipse in the takeaway to the ellipse from downswing to release?
December 26, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello GC. The club is traveling on a arc back and through. I will see if we have any options to try an above view video.
December 26, 2017
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James
I have been doing this drill fine but have had a eureka moment that by doing this drill I am practising taking my club back inside in the back-swing which is a problem of mine. So what I am doing now to do this drill is that I must start the drill with my shoulders turned away from target before working on the drill with the club in position to swing forward through the ball. i.e. stop swinging the club back first with the shoulders square to target line and set my shoulders closed to target as they should be when playing the downswing; Chuck actually does swing back with closed shoulders but I am a bit concerned that it is ingraining the bad habit I have of taking the club inside with my my normal swing. Hope this makes sense to what I am trying to get across.
September 30, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. I gather you are presetting the position of closed shoulders as to shy away from throwing the club inside since you already fight that demon. Practicing very small movements as Chuck is describing shouldn't get you in trouble. But, your version still seems like you aren't toying with the drill too much.
September 30, 2017
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James
Craig I do like the drill but as I was saying I was starting this little drill with square shoulders then a small swing back inside turning my shoulders away from target doing as Chuck is saying swinging from in to out with the shoulders slightly closed. The mistake I have been making is starting off with square shoulders, this was ingraining a habit of my taking the club early inside the line on my normal swings. By having my shoulders in the closed position as shown by Chuck to start with with a short swing makes it feel less likely to affect that bad habit I have in my full swing.
September 30, 2017
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Dave
I have watched this video many times, practiced the drills over and over again, and have struggled to crack the code. I do notice in the video you keep your head back and shoulders slightly closed. I'm not looking for a quick fix, trick, or gimmick, I was trying to understand a feeling in my body when I do it properly since the swing happens so fast. I feel like your response was unprofessional.
September 15, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. I believe all Chuck was trying to relay is teaching a feeling is nearly impossible. Certain positions happen as of consequence of proper body sequence and motion. That a shortcut or gimmick will not lead to a permanent and lasting fix. Per you response it seems that you are trying to shy away from a quick fix or gimmick. Great. That's definitely what we want to hear from students. Proper shifting and working the lead side properly in the downswing will help you maintain the head behind the ball. If the upper half is passive and being pulled into impact you will stay away from being steep or sliding ahead. My recommendation would be to for go the club at first and train the body the correct motion (Step 2 - Core Rotation). If you can get the body moving properly. A good set of drills to help to help keep the sequence correct when adding a club would be 2-4 of 6 of the Play the Best Golf of Your Life Series. (Video 2) To help reduce lead arm tension and free swinging. 2) (Video 3 and 4) To combine weight shift, posting, tension free lead arm movement and sequence into impact without letting your head wander into the shot. All of these will promote a better path and sensation of staying behind the ball combined with the shoulders not prematurely opening at impact.
September 15, 2017
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Dave
I have problems coming over the top and I saw a video online talking about focusing on keeping your head behind the ball at impact and have shoulders slightly closed as a fix. Do you agree with this thought and will it promote the inside path?
September 13, 2017
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
we don't do thoughts and tips here, we do fundamentals. If you're coming over the top, take a look at the Stop Coming Over the Top video and fix the problem permanently rather than looking for more band-aid fixes
September 15, 2017

In the last video using the impact cube, I talked about getting the hands into the proper impact position and this time I'm gonna talk about a different drill that you can use that I want you to use to build on the last drill. And this is, you can actually flip the bag upside down and there's a little label here that says inside path on the top of the bag. And you'll notice here, if you remember from the kind of the trapezoidal shape that I described in the first video, that there's kind of an overhang here when you flip it upside down cause this would be the pitching wedge shaft lean side, which I told you I don't really want you to use that unless you're trying to hit 'em really, really low. But when you flip that upside down, it creates an overhang. And if you put the ball right toward the edge, the inside of this bag, you're gonna have a really, really hard time making contact with the golf ball if you're swinging over the top because you're gonna bring the club out toward the bag every single time. And what this is gonna help you do is start developing the feel of the club approaching the ball from the inside because if you don't, you're gonna whack the bag every single time.

                So, if you put the ball just underneath it you'll still be able to see it. But now what I want you to do is take the left hand impact position that you were working on and letting the club release with the left hand and start hitting little one-handed half shots and get used to the club approaching the ball from an inside path. Now as you start putting your right hand back on like you did with the impact position drill, the shaft lean drill, you'll start getting a feel for this right shoulder that I talked about. Remember how I talked about on the first video how if you're used to swinging over the top and being really right side dominate, that your right shoulder starts moving forward to try to get the club into a position of shaft lean but it doesn't work and it changes the path of the club. This is what's gonna happen, is you're gonna swing over the top and whack the bag every time as you're trying to make contact with the ball, the clubs gonna come at the ball like this.

                So, when you start swinging left hand only and you bring your right shoulder down to get the right hand on the club, now you start training your body to make these little half swings to get into this position, where you'll notice that my chest is either square or slightly close to the target instead of this position, which is what helps create the over the top, big banana, ugly, nasty slice. We don't want that shot anymore. So what'll we need to get used to, left hand only, hitting little half shots, bring your right hand under. This is the exact same stuff I cover in the Five Minutes of the Perfect Release videos, my favorite video on the site cause it trains you how to do this. Now having a training aide, a visual reference like this impact cube here, just makes it that much easier to see and feel and experience that inside path. So this impact cube, tons of multiple uses for it. I'm gonna show you another one that's gonna help you learn how to create lag in the next video. 

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