The GOAT Delivery Position (GDP)

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During my study of the GOATs, it kept becoming clear that they deliver and release the club in much the same way, no matter how different their swings may have looked. In this video, I show you how to get into the GOAT Delivery Position (GDP) and how to release the club from there.


On the surface, you may think that Ben Hogan and Tiger Woods don't swing anything alike, but when you get them down into the delivery area, like you see here, they're in almost identical positions.

And you can see this amongst all the greats.

You can see this in Bobby Jones and Jack Nicklaus.

And when you look down the line, you can see this in all modern players as well.

You're going to see this in Rory McIlroy, Dustin Johnson, look at Tiger Woods, Ben Hogan, Bobby Jones.

Look at the position of their arms, the right arm and the left arm.

Notice the internal rotation of the left arm, the right arm being tucked in with the elbow pointing out away from the elbow pit and the wrist.

That's what we're going to talk about, how to understand how to get into this position and why it is so important.

When you look at the swings of the greats, they tended to all do certain things very much the same.

And the delivery position is something that's consistent amongst them all.

And when we talk about the delivery position, what we're really talking about is roughly when the hands start to get back in front of the leg, the trail leg, and the club shaft is roughly parallel to the ground.

That's what I call the delivery position.

Because from there, things are happening much too fast for you to try and control, as Hogan liked to say.

It was a devilish thing to try and control the impact area as the club is releasing through.

But understanding how to get into this delivery position will help you not only get more control and stop flipping, but help you also stop coming over the top.

Because when you move into this goat delivery position, it's basically the opposite of how you would swing over the top.

So let's first look at how to get yourself into this position, what it's going to feel like.

And first, Understand that there's no physical special flexibility or strength or anything like that that's required.

And what I want you to do first is with your trail arm, so if you're a right-handed golfer, your right arm, Simply stand in a normal posture and then get your elbow pit facing straight away from you and turn your palm so that it's also facing straight away from you.

And then just simply bend your wrist and your elbow a little bit.

What I mean by that is just flex the elbow a little bit and bend the wrist back a little bit.

That's it.

That is the goat delivery position as far as the trail arm is concerned.

So once you understand that this is what you're trying to do to get down close to the ball, now you're halfway there to understanding what's really happening in the swings of the greatest.

Because what they're doing is getting into this position with the lead arm in a internally rotated position.

So what we mean by that is the arm, If you just take it and take your whole upper arm and twist it out so that your elbow is pointing straight down the target line and you combine that with the elbow pit pointing away from you.

So you can kind of think of these things as 90 degrees opposing each other.

This elbow pit is pointing straight away.

This elbow pit pointing this way or your elbow pointing straight down the target line.

Your arm has to be internally rotated for this to happen, and your shoulder actually has to be protracted a little bit.

So this would be normal posture where my shoulder is back in neutral posture.

But what you see in the position of the goats is that their arm, their lead arm is protracted and internally rotated while this one is basically close to neutral.

So from here, all I've got to do is release that golf club.

And once I've got this position understood, and I've got this position locked in, when I have the club in my hands, You're starting to be able to very easily square the club face and get yourself into a proper release position.

Now, this delivery position isn't that complicated.

The hard part is how do you get there?

That's the tricky part.

Because what most golfers want to do, and what feels really natural, is to start rotating the shoulders to get that club back to the ball.

From down the line, you can see this immediately starts creating the old over-the-top move.

And so now everything starts to go this way and we're in trouble.

The greats, of course, we saw, we know that none of the greats had a big over-the-top move.

They all came down this way.

Because what they were working on is getting into this delivery position with this trail arm, in a position where it can release that right arm, right hand with some speed.

And that is what you're going to have to feel in order to stop, to break that habit of wanting to swing over the top.

So how do we get there?

I want you to do this with your trail arm only at first.

Go to the top of your swing, not too worried about where you are roughly, just kind of get it in the ballpark to where you're, this part of your arm, Your forearm is kind of pointing straight down at the ground, and your arms roughly in front of your body.

Now from here, the trick is I want you to feel what it would take to get your right arm, your trail arm back into that delivery position.

Well, you wouldn't want to go this way at all, right?

As soon as you start trying to push with your right arm, extend this right arm or push with your right shoulder to move your hand fast, that gets your hand moving out toward the target line, toward the ball and get you steep and over the top.

Instead, what you want to feel is that your right, Your trail, Elbow and your shoulder work down into that position, where your elbow pit can now face away from the target or away from your body.

You'll see that as you start going to go this way, your elbow pit will start wanting to point this way.

And that's when you're really over the top.

So instead, go to the top and bring it into that delivery position where your arm is tucked into your side, your elbow pit's pointing away from you and your palm is facing away from you.

So from there, from the top to here is this motion.

And you can see that it makes sense for me to naturally shift my weight back to the lead side.

Because I've got to make room for this arm to get in close to my body.

If I go this way, then I obviously I don't have to shift and I can do all sorts of things.

But when you move correctly, when you move this arm from that position at the top to going down with the shoulder, down with the elbow, that gets you into this position where it's very easy to have this elbow pit point away from you.

If you go across and high with your trail shoulder, you'll find the opposite.

And that's where you start coming over the top.

So now with a club, do the same thing, turn to the top and now bring your arm down into that delivery position.

My palm is out.

My elbow pit is out.

My arm is close to my body and I'm working this trail shoulder, not across or out toward the ball, but what it's going to feel like down.

And you can see, as I move down, watch what happens to my hip.

You see how my hip gets moved out of the way without me having to think about it.

I don't have to think about pushing really hard or whatever to shift off that trail foot.

Getting my feeling of getting into this delivery position helps me make that weight shift really natural.

So from there, if I put my lead arm back on there, now my back of my hand, or if I had a glove on, the logo of my glove would be pointing away just like the palm of my trail hand is.

Those two should be working in opposites.

So now my elbow, my lead elbow is down the target line.

This one is pointing, pit is pointing away from me.

And right here, from here, if I go back to the top and down, now you understand how simple it is to get into a proper delivery position.

If you do anything different from that, you're going to find that you're going to go over the top, or if you start trying to shallow out the club in an unnatural way, it's going to throw everything off.

Make it simple and first get yourself in this position, your palm out, elbow pit out.

That's it.

Now go to the top and bring it right back down to that position.

Get your shoulder to go down to get that hand closer to the ground.

And if you've struggled with flipping, This is one of the keys to breaking that bad habit is a lot of times when people flip with their hands.

And if you don't know what a flip is, just your wrist breaking down at impact too early, adding loft to the club.

When that happens is because you're running out of extension with this arm and wrist, eventually the club hat, your wrists have to break down.

And if you run out of something to continue to drive that club forward, then you're always going to start flipping because there's nothing left to hit with.

There's nothing left to keep that club moving forward, but you'll see when my shoulder goes down, as long as like, you know, again, I'm not trying to really exaggerate this.

It's a feeling of getting my arm down so that my elbow kind of gets down into my pocket.

And then my palm is facing away from me.

As I do this, this makes it so that this arm can stay bent and this wrist is staying bent, but I'm closer to the ground than I was when I started.

That's why you see good golfers, especially golfers like Tiger and other great players, their head goes down because they're maintaining this angle.

So now as they continue to drive down, I'm not running out of right arm or right wrist to keep the shaft delofted.

If I was up here and my head didn't go down and my body didn't go down, and I started going to release the club, well, eventually I run out of stuff to hit, I run out of stuff to release.

And so the club's going to start releasing and flipping.

But if I go down and get this elbow down and my head down, now it's very easy for me.

I still actually have angle in my wrist to keep that club delofted.

And that's a great way to start feeling.

How to hit balls from here is get into this delivery position.

And then work down to where you can get your hands still staying arched back or your lead wrist flat.

And this one's still arched back.

This would obviously be a very low shot, But this will get you the feeling of how to get your arms into this delivery position and releasing the club without flipping.

You'll see if you stand really tall and you start extending this arm early and the wrist early, you eventually run out of things to hit with here.

Of course, you're going to flip and scoop.

But as soon as I work on getting into this delivery position, palm out, elbow pit out, shoulder down.

Now I'm in a position where I can maintain those angles and have a lot left to release with.

All the greats do this.

Let's take a closer look at both the greats and some modern ball strikers to see this in action.

So you help to visualize it a little bit better and understand exactly what you're trying to do in your downswing.

All right, we'll start with Nellie Korda.

I know many of you are big fans of her swing, me included.

I love her golf swing.

It's amazing.

Take a look, first of all, as she gets into GDP.

Note the external rotation of the left arm and the right elbow pit facing straight at the camera.

So the left elbow is pointing down the target line.

The right elbow is pointing straight at the camera.

Now you can match that with the logo on the glove pointing straight at the camera.

The right palm facing straight at the camera.

This is the delivery position that you'll see all great players get into.

When we look at her from down the line, you're going to see the same thing.

The right elbow in close to the body, the left arm in an internally rotated position where the left shoulder you can see is protracted.

Notice how it's out away from the body.

The right shoulder is in close to neutral position.

And this is what allows her to get into that delivery area to be able to deliver the club, driving it through with that right hand.

You can see an obvious release and strike with the right hand there through the ball.

And that gets her to that full follow -through.

One other thing to note, you'll see this in some golfers.

Tony Finau is an example.

Korda is another example.

Notice how the lead arm is bent.

This is being driven or pushed by the trail arm and hand, really the trail hand and the shoulder body working together.

But that's why that left arm is bent.

It's internally rotated and it's in a bent position because the force, The driving force is coming from the trail hand, that allows it to stay in that more soft position as she comes down into impact.

And again, you see the GDP position right there as the hands get back in front of the thigh, the club roughly parallel to the ground, logo of the glove pointing toward the camera, right palm facing the camera, left elbow down the target line, right elbow pit pointing at the camera, and then continuing to drive that into the release.

As we look at her sister, Jessica, you're going to see the same great technique.

You're going to see that right shoulder starting to work down, the right elbow starting to work down to put the elbow in the pocket, the left arm maintaining that internal rotation.

And now as she gets into GDP, the left elbow is pointing down the target line, globe, logo of the glove and palm facing at the camera, right elbow pit facing out.

And this allows her, notice how much she's maintaining the flexion in that wrist.

Actually, that would be deviation would be the proper term, but you can see how the right wrist is still bent back.

And that's what is allowing her to continue to drive the club forward without flipping.

Is by getting that right shoulder and right elbow down lower to the ground that allows her to maintain those angles.

If her right shoulder was higher, That right wrist would have to be releasing a lot earlier because that would be the only way to get the club back to the ball.

Now let's take a look at Tiger coming down into impact.

Watch first of all, notice how his right shoulder is visible behind his head here.

Watch how quickly it disappears.

You see that?

This is working that right arm and elbow down into GDP.

And that's what gets his right shoulder so much closer to the ground, which allows him to maintain angle a lot longer to avoid a flip.

Now he's driving that wrist forward, that right wrist forward with that right shoulder low.

And that's maintaining the angle until after impact.

But you can again see that this delivery position is consistent amongst all great ball strikers.

The same thing, the left arm internally rotated, right elbow pit out, palm and back of the hand facing toward the camera.

Here's an awesome view of Jack Nicklaus from up above.

Now Jack was famous for having that flying right elbow.

So now would it be harder with that elbow position to be able to get that arm back into GDP?

Nope.

Watch.

Note how that right arm tucks right back into the body, gets him into the perfect delivery position at impact.

Well Sergio Garcia has always had a pretty unique swing, but you can see the exact same motion.

And this is a great angle.

Watch his right shoulder and arm.

Note how that's basically the only thing moving to initiate the downswing.

You see that?

He's getting that right elbow to start to work back down into the pocket and getting ready to get into GDP.

And of course he does, just like every other great ball striker.

Note how his right elbow is actually still back behind his pocket.

He's got it down and now he's going to begin to rotate everything together and start to move that right arm forward to maintain that angle.

And now he's in the perfect delivery position.

The left shoulder is still protracted, left arm internally rotated, gets into the release, And then a tremendous amount of rotation of the right hand, releasing over the left aggressively through the strike.

I mentioned Tony Finau earlier.

Let's take a look at his swing.

First of all, you're going to watch his right elbow drop big time.

He's getting ready to get into GDP, a powerful position to throw that club head from.

So his first thing he's doing is moving that right shoulder, right arm to get down.

And now as he gets into GDP, you're going to see the exact same thing.

Notice how internally rotated that left arm is elbow pointing down the target line, right elbow pit straight at the camera, back of the glove facing straight at the camera.

He's in the exact same position.

And because he's going to continue to drive with that right arm, He's going to be able to maintain that bend in that left arm and keep that club.

Face nice and square for a very long time.

Through the strike and then release in a tremendous amount of hand rotation after the strike.

Last and most certainly not least, one of my favorite swings of all time, Bobby Jones.

From up the line, it gives you a much better view of just the difference of where the lead arm is in the trail arm.

Notice how much lower the trail arm is than the lead arm.

This is a view, if you've studied anybody else like Mo Norman, Mo Norman believed that this was, he described this as his magic move.

And basically it was an oversimplification of it, Is that it's dropping that right elbow below the left so that the club can approach the ball from the inside.

And it also is that right shoulder drops lower.

It allows you to maintain a squarer path with that club longer.

So long story short, I'll get into more into that in a video another time.

But this view helps you understand how much lower that right arm works down into the ball, into the delivery area.

Right here, he's in GDP, right?

Basically there where he's clubs roughly parallel to the ground.

That right elbow is in his pocket, the left shoulder is protracted, and then he's going to be able to release the club with that trail hand from there.

And then you can see the left wrist breaks down so quickly.

In order for that to happen, you have to have very, very little tension in that left wrist.

So a lot of times, golfers who flip start trying to hold on to that club really tight with the left hand.

And this causes you to start to bow the wrist early in the backswing.

And then as I talk about it in the lead wrist extension video regarding the hack motion, you'll find out that you'll run out of wrist.

And then you'll actually start trying, you'll be forced to flip before impact by trying to bow your wrist too much too soon, unless you have a lot of body rotation, which I talk about in that video as well.

But long story short, this is obvious that they are throwing that club head at the ball from this GDP, obviously from the top and into GDP and releasing it very aggressively.

And that left wrist is relatively soft.

And that's why you saw in the swings of like Tony Finau and Nelly Korda that that left arm actually tends to stay really bent.

And it can't do that through tension per se.

The right arm has to be driving it, and the left arm has to be relatively not working super aggressively, super hard in order for you to maintain that position.

So work on visualizing this in your swing, Getting that right arm and shoulder and elbow down so that you can release the club from the inside and stop swinging over the top and start having a powerful position to be able to drive that club head forward, drive that hands forward, drive the handle forward so that you can get rid of your flip.

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Joey
I’m not 100% sure which video I saw this in but I was almost certain I watched another video that said the front arm/shoulder should be retracted. But here it’s saying it should be protracted. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated
June 23, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joey. Protracted into impact. You may be thinking of earlier short game videos and setup position.
June 24, 2025
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Joey
Hey Craig, it was the GOAT set-up where it says lead shoulder retracted at set-up (trail shoulder protracted slightly to get down to the ball). So, lead shoulder should be retracted at set-up and then protracted into impact, is that correct? At what point of the swing does this change happen?
June 24, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joey. Copy that. That is the one. I was picturing the red shirt . The lead shoulder starts to protract as the lead arm gets parallel to the ground. But, the big key Chuck is looking for is to not push with it immediately off the ball.
June 24, 2025
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Joey
Roger that. Thanks for clearing that up, Craig!
June 24, 2025
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Dave
Hi Craig This is my first day on the site and I’m not clear what I have to do regarding the GDP video. Do I have to master the position before I progress to the next video or do I just work on it steadily in parallel with drills from subsequent videos? Also should I be replicating the series of moves demonstrated by Chuck, with and without a club?
June 17, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. Welcome to the site. This position is something to memorize and understand this is what you have to achieve as you work through the system. No need to master this yet, but know this is the goal position in the swing. You will feel more comfortable with this as you get to full swinging. Certainly you can do the drill above though with and without a club to start getting a good sense for GDP.
June 17, 2025
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James
Craig In this video the Goat position looks like the right shoulder is closed not in extension as being taught in 3.1. In the Goat position shouldn’t your shoulder be more extended or when does the extension happen shown in 3.1? Thanks
June 17, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. The shoulder needs to remain in the retracted/open position as you get into GDP. It may not appear to look the same as 3.1. But, protraction doesn't happen until well after impact.
June 17, 2025
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James
Craig I am not getting it through this and 3.1. At 2:20 in this video Chuck says GDP position right shoulder is neutral and left shoulder is pronated. In this position the chest is not in an extended position. Playing racquet sports, baseball etc. it is clearly easy and desirable to supinate both shoulders to extend the chest to create tension across the core to add speed. Once you add the left hand to the swing, you now have a triangle, and if you supinate the right shoulder you need to pronate the left. If you supinate both, the hands need to come up to compensate in the triangle. In 3.1 Chuck instructs supinating the right shoulder at 16:20. He is doing this with one arm, as in a racquet swing and illustrates how to supinate the right shoulder to get in the GDP position. But his chest is wide open because he is only using one hand and can supinate both shoulders. As far as I can see, the GDP is significantly different between the position in this video compared to the desired position in 3.1. How do these instructions relate? If right shoulder is neutral and left shoulder pronated as taught in this video, when does that right shoulder supinate and chest open as shown in 3.1?
June 18, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. That's the difference. With two hands you won't get that chest wide open look. You don't want to try and supinate the lead shoulder down. It needs to be in the pronated position for impact. You are still driving your core and trail side similar to the punching motion. But, there is a small adjustment with two arms. The trail scapula is still retracting/depressing into the spine in transition.

June 19, 2025
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Greg
Hello Craig, I just started on my GDP swing. Is it possible to get your thoughts on my GDP before I start repping? Greg

June 4, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Greg. Start in GDP and hit some smaller shots first. Let's see that version. Now, you still are starting with short game right? Just making sure . Your tendency is to get handsy in the takeaway and a little deep at the top. If we can slow that roll and get the arms working up. We can focus more on getting some space for trail arm to work into GDP. You can see you have to tug the arms a bit in transition versus being able to work into supination and depressed trail shoulder positioning.
June 5, 2025
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Greg
Hi Craig, thank you for reviewing my video. I apologize, I just started golf a couple of years ago so I’m not as familiar as I should be with a lot of the terms that you used, but I think I was able to work thru it. Attached is the full swing (I could send the partial if you’d like). I was using a 7i previously, but used a PW for this one (Callaway Apex MB X-Stiff). I took my arms higher, tried to use less hand & focused on pulling down the right elbow. I also previously purchased the 5 extra lesson package. I appreciate your input and feel free to be as critical as necessary. Thanks, Greg

June 8, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Greg. Swing is better for sure. . A little bit reachy at setup. Arms are better at the top. Take a look at the 160 yard video. This will continue to help the transition where you can get the arms into GDP easier because you still want to rotate the whole body a tad bit too much. The foot work will really help in Chuck's drill.
June 9, 2025
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Chan
I’m trying to find the video where Chuck talks about getting your hand like a hitchhiker and then just goes straight to the top to get the feeling correct. Craig, do you know which video that is?
June 3, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chan. Either GOAT Backswing or GOAT Drill I believe. Don't quote me though.
June 3, 2025
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Chan
Hey Craig, neither of those was it. This video is where he is wearing his red shirt with the mountains in the background. He tells us to take the grip part of the club touching our right forearm and then on the backswing make a hitchhiker thumb. Ivan not find this video for the life of me.
June 4, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chan. I can see the video in my head you are referring too and can't find it. I will have to keep digging. But, I know the one you are talking about.
June 5, 2025
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Chan
Ok. Keep me posted.
June 5, 2025
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Chan
I’ve found snippets of the drill on the YouTube channel under Mastering wrist action put the part of the video I’m looking for is not on there.
June 6, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Roger that. I found that one as well on another platform. Just trying to find the video . Keep you updated.
June 6, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Unfortunately, that video is no longer on the site. Finally figured out why we can't find.
June 9, 2025
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Matthew
I can see with Nelly that she still maintains the shoulder plane like you recommend in the DEAD drill (with the trail shoulder higher from down the line, at first). How does that happen with this move being emphasized? Is it because there is some rotation happening at the same time? Or is it because of lateral movement toward the target? Or is the lead shoulder coming down at roughly the same time? ... I think it's hard to really understand the matter of side bend and lower back safety in this context as well.
April 24, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matthew. That will still remain. You won't see the trail shoulder lower than lead or big side bend until after transition. You don't tilt the head further away from the target immediately and fall back to trail side. Think like a tennis stroke. The core/body are rotating through which in side bend the core protects the back. Perfectly safe.
April 25, 2025
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Matthew
Hmm, okay. Yea, I can imagine I don't wanna hang back for sure. I'll be experimenting with it and see. Gonna give this program and the trail side an honest go. So, we'll see over the next few weeks. Probably send some swing reviews in
April 25, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Good stuff. I think you will grasp it faster than you think
April 26, 2025
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Randy
Finally able to feel the feeling of my right wrist with extension and supination at impact. Dropping my elbow in to my right side really helps with having good lag at impact as well. Great stuff here!
April 23, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Awesome Randy!
April 24, 2025
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Nichlas
First of all, thanks for the great GOAT code course and the way explain things with subsequent drills are just world class. I completed a swing review with Anthony (thanks for great feedback and completed 4 hours after I submitted the video). He noticed (which I agree on), that I have a very arm focused swing. But what I’m unsure about, is that should I almost exclusively use my body to rotate in my backswing, and just let my arm follow along, or have I misunderstood something?
April 16, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nicholas. The core will be the engine. The arms will to very little. They have to move up and down. No major swinging side to side. Core/momentum/little elevation will go a long way.
April 16, 2025
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Tony
does the core pull the trail shoulder and elbow into gdp or are you actively dropping shoulder and elbow down?
April 23, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
As the core starts puling you around you will feel the trail shoulder depress as the arms shallow out. Chuck talks about this motion towards the end of the GOAT Backswing Video.
April 23, 2025
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Nichlas
Thanks for the answer. I guess after power swinging with my arms, my mind haven’t yet really understood, you can get the same power (or likely even more power), through the body and holding the arms more or less still ????
April 16, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
It's not about holding and more retaining the juice. You need snap. You just have to delay it. Think waiting until the last moment to pop the hammer versus doing it first thing. Which is going to deliver more umph into the nail.
April 16, 2025
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Nichlas
Ok so keeping them mostly still in the backswing, and then right before impact, fire them away? Appreciate the quick response
April 16, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Sorta. Watch the GOAT Release Video. More about snap in the wrist. Happens very late in the downswing,
April 16, 2025
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Aman
Hello, What is the drill for GOAT video 1.2 to get 300 reps?
April 13, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Aman. You don't have to worry too much about that at this stage. But, it would be starting in GDP moving into and through impact. Then, making motions from address (9 to 3) length through GDP and full swings. You will tackle GDP as you work through the program.
April 13, 2025
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Aman
Thanks, Craig
April 13, 2025
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Tony
I've struggled with downswing to maintain good lag. So the downswing is just initiated dropping the shoulder and elbow down. Is that a good way to think about it and feel it?
April 2, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tony. You will start to recenter in the transition. But, you are correct the arms will come straight down as the shoulder stays quiet (from pushing) and works down as well.
April 2, 2025
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Tony
Thanks Craig- I'm also not hitting the ball solidly and have a bit of a slice even with strong grip. Could it just be getting used to the adjustments and being a little tense?
April 4, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Could be. But there may be a different issue. Steepness, spin, lack of release. Tough to tell without seeing the motion. Feel free to send a swing in for review, or post on the community page and I will take a quick look.
April 4, 2025
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Tony
and to a smaller degree even with chipping and putting correct?
April 3, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tony. The core is doing the vast majority of work in the short game, but yes to a much smaller degree same with shoulder/arm.
April 3, 2025
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Ronald
Thanks for the awesome insight Chuck! When do you feel the ulnar deviation with the wrist? Is it at beginning of downswing to get club head out in front or at the GDP? I've been doing it at the beginning of downswing as I supinate my trail arm and bring shoulder down.
March 30, 2025
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Chuck
you’re welcome Ronald honestly that all happened so fast that I don’t ever really feel the ulnar deviation
March 30, 2025
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Lucas
Chuck, how is this consistent with the wide glide wide arm movement? They seem like two completely different swing methods to me. What am I missing?
March 15, 2025
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Chuck
Wgw is just a feeling
March 16, 2025
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Kurt
Does it look like Tiger has a greater separation of the left shoulder due to steeper shoulders? Or is it the camer angle?
March 8, 2025
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Chuck
Comparing to Hogan? Their swings were really quite different so there are numerous reasons
March 8, 2025
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Kurt
As well as protraction?
March 8, 2025
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scot
Very instructive and shown a light on many loose ends I have wondered about.
March 5, 2025
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charles
Which video shows in slow motion the right wrist at impact and how far after impact the wrists turn over. Cheers
March 3, 2025
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Edward
Very helpful. I was trying to stop using my right hand and was trying to pull the club with my left side/hand.
January 31, 2025
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Bruce
Chuck your explanation of what will happen to the club head if you come over the top was very helpful...as I was practicing today I observed the early release while I moved the club from top toward the ball....ah ha!... leave the clubhead alone into contact and hold the shoulders still as you head into the GOAT delivery position and suddenly club head speed increased as well as the solidness of contact...good stuff coach!
January 18, 2025
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Chuck
Glad it helped!
January 19, 2025
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Richard
So i am understanding this correctly that when you are at the top of your arc (in your backswing) that you clubface will be facing out from you (90 degrees from desired ball path) and when you bring the club through at impact the face is oriented in the direction of your desired path, following through that motion and remaining in that same direction?
December 19, 2024
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Chuck
if I understand your question correctly yes
December 20, 2024
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James
This is a great video and explanation. Thank you. The feel that you're describing seems analogous to skipping a stone on a lake. Just to clarify, with this release pattern, are we letting the right wrist go from extension right before impact to flexion just after impact with no rotation of the clubface? This seems to differ from your prior teaching of letting the toe of the club turn over the heel of the club through impact.
December 8, 2024
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Chuck
The release pattern is different than the goat code because the goat code is a trail side, dominant pattern and the lead side pattern has a very different release. And yes, the right hand is moving from extension deflection during the release, but it’s more than that as it’s moving through rotation in supination that also creates ulnar deviation. Watch the J release video to have a better understanding of this
December 8, 2024
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ryan
at the risk of sounding stupid, i got a question. this video, has a 3,000 rep tracker thing.. does that mean we're supposed to get into the move 3000 times before advancing to the next video? and if so, how are we to be sure we are doing it correctly? even though it seems simple enough, it would be a shame if someone did 3,000 reps incorrectly. thanks in advance.
November 30, 2024
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Chuck
The rep tracker is there for those who want to track their reps as they are working to master something. You don't have to get that many reps in to move on.
November 30, 2024
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Mark
Which goat video were you referring to please? Also , I can’t open the video now to hear what you said again ?
November 16, 2024
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Chuck
Search for the goat drill. I’m not sure why you can’t open the video. It is opening fine for me.
November 16, 2024
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Mark
forgot to show video

November 16, 2024
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Mark
That’s brilliant thanks so much for your quick reply . Really trying hard to change. I suspected so but it’s been a lifetime 48 yrs of swinging like this and especially too flat and deep coming from inside . Never been able to turn left enough from the top when trying to stay quiet with body . My swing Relies on timing too much. You say that core should rotate automatically when arms swing through . Not sure how to swing core without right shoulder moving like this . Also when you talk about releasing early with wrists , what starts first and what feels like you use to hit ball , core or wrists and arms ?
November 16, 2024
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Chuck
Here you go. Your core isnt firing and that will always force you to shut the face down too soon. Your arms fire too early and core doesnt have a chance to work

November 16, 2024
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Mark
Been practicing keeping the GDP on the way down instead of allowing the shoulder to throw open slightly as you say and now I am hitting 80% shots push fade as clubface must always be slightly open at impact . Stopped the flip left other than the odd shot but can’t hit a proper slight draw starting right . What now please ?
December 6, 2024
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Chuck
Sounds like you are pushing the rt shoulder through. Are your shoulders open at impact?
December 8, 2024
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Mark
by the way its not a flip adding loft , its a slight shut face as i ofetn hit it too low
November 16, 2024
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Mark
watching this again for the 3rd time. looking at all my swings i have always got in to the GDP well, never over the top, butbfor some reason i nstill keep slightly shutting the face at impact by very slightly rotating my right hand and forearm on the way down and it keeps causing slight pull draws left of target starting left of where aiming. i am off scratch and 61 yrs old and thios is my nemesis, and has been for years, especially i try to release wrists to gain speed from the top. why is this happenning and how can i stop this right forearm and hand rotation to a slight shut face . this is why i find it so hard to fade the ball
November 16, 2024
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Lee
Hello, in trying to get into GDP and hitting shots my right elbow has started to hurt pretty bad. Any ideas on what might be causing this? I know I must be doing something wrong since anything you tell us to do you make sure it isn't injury prone. Thanks for your help!
November 14, 2024
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Chuck
Yep you are “using” your arm. Check out the goat drill in phase 4. Your arms get moved by the core.
November 15, 2024
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Lee
Hmmm ok, don't think I understand exactly but I will check it out and let you know if I do. Thanks!
November 15, 2024
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Chuck
Your elbow hurts because you are pushing the club through with the trail arm. You use your core to move the arms, not the arm by itself. That will always cause elbow pain eventually.
November 15, 2024
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Lee
Oh ok! I was just about to say I watched the video and ask for more clarification. So it's really just the trail wrist that does anything then. Anything I can look for on video specifically to see me doing it wrong? Thanks again Chuck!
November 15, 2024
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Lee
In the GDP video above you talk about using the right arm to push the club through. Did you mean it is used by your core to push the club through or that they work together?
November 15, 2024
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Lee
After rereading your response sounds like you are saying they have to work together. Am I understanding that right? Thanks again for the clarification so I don't hurt myself!
November 15, 2024
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Chuck
The arm itself is not pushing as in “extending from the tricep,” but it is being driven forward by the core
November 15, 2024
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Lee
I just watched the GDP video again and must say it is a bit confusing because it does look like the pros are extending the right arm from GDP to get to the ball. Is that from centrifugal force and throwing with the right wrist? I know I'm the video you say they pushed the left arm with the right arm which is why the left arm is bent but before that did clarify saying it was not really the right arm but right shoulder and core. I am not trying at all to be difficult just having a hard time truly understanding what is happening based on the terminology and what I see but I think I am getting a better understanding of it slowly. It seems like if it is just right shoulder and core that there would be no speed but I guess that is where the right wrist throw comes in to add speed starting from the top to GDP. Sorry I thought I understood until I rewatched the video and got confused again a bit lol. I hope you can understand and thank you so much for your patience with helping me understand. I love all the explanations and videos. It is all extremely helpful!
November 15, 2024
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Chuck
The arm itself isn’t doing much and is being driven by the core as you suggested. Check out the comment from Drew on the goat drill and he describes the feeling of it not feeling powerful but the arms and club whip through with great speed. Efficiency doesn’t FEEL fast. It just IS fast. The fascia stretching and snapping is very efficient
November 16, 2024
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Lee
Ok, thank you!
November 16, 2024
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Tom
You explain really well the reason for my right hand flip. All my playing partners loved the draw I had, but it was from flipping and would result in a pull hook sometimes. Now that I am repping this GDP I no longer have that draw but a slight fade. How do you hit a draw from this position, just release earlier or faster?
November 7, 2024
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Chuck
Yes you just need a tiny amount of release in the hands and the ball will draw no problem
November 8, 2024
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Kalamar
I'm not able to access
November 2, 2024
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Chuck
if you were on a free membership it only allows you access to certain videos, not the full catalog
November 3, 2024
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Chuck
Email cs@rotaryswing.com for support. Are you on a vpn?
November 3, 2024
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Kalamar
Goat code
November 2, 2024
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beybladegen
I'm not able to access this video even though I have got the free trial
November 2, 2024
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Chuck
if you were on a free membership it only allows you access to a small subset of videos. You must become a premium member to access this video.
November 3, 2024
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Chuck
Email cs@rotaryswing.com to get some help
November 3, 2024
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Tom
Chuck this is an aha moment for me; I've been struggling to get the club in this position for years until this video. No matter how many times I tried to "drop" the club in the downswing it just did not happen. It seems so easy after this video and added 15-20 yards on my irons, now I need to rep it.
October 18, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome Tom!
October 18, 2024
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William
I'm confused. In a previous lesson review I was told to keep my left shoulder down and below the right one starting the downswing. For the right elbow to supinate on the downswing Chuck is dropping his right shoulder. Please clarify. Thanks
October 17, 2024
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Chuck
It does down as you start the downswing, it doesn't drop until you get into gdp
October 17, 2024
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Joseph
Yes this all makes sense, I really appreciate the clarity. What I'm concerned about, other than the fact I lose the video image when I hit pause, Is that these golfers DO release the club, they DO pronate that left wrist and the left elbow DOES extend away from the body - ALL of these things happen in the release. The problem I am having is timing the release so that these things do not happen BEFORE contact with the ball. I can tell its going to draw if I'm a bit early I can tell its going to hook like mad if I'm really early but how do you work the timing so that it always happens RIGHT AFTER contact ??
October 14, 2024
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Chuck
You have to use your body first, if you are just using your arms the arm will pronate no matter what you try and do. I'm doing a video that covers this tomorrow for the 60 yd shots so check that out later this week.
October 15, 2024
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Eric
I'm having trouble reconciling the Wide Glide Wide video and how that swing looks, and getting the club into the GOAT delivery position I see in this video. The GOAT delivery position seems to hold the wrist angle while some of the other videos seem to suggest throwing it away before getting into this position. Any clarification would be very helpful as I'm struggling to get this swing working for me. Thanks!!!
October 1, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Eric, as you work your way through the videos in this series it will begin to become more clear as I discuss it more in depth. Working through the new TW GOAT Code in sequence will help tremendously as this question has been asked numerous times and so I cover it in those new videos and webinars. If you start with the smaller strokes as the program lays out, it makes it a 1000x faster to engrain these movements.
October 1, 2024
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Eric
Thanks... will do!
October 1, 2024
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Ryan
Lead-side swings get you into this position too. Is it the same body movement for both?
June 16, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, very similar, just different ways of getting there
June 16, 2024
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Ryan
Is lead side letting the shaft and club fall straight down like Ernie Els says? And Trail side more tucking your elbow into your pocket?
June 16, 2024
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Chuck
Both arrive at the exact same position, it's more a matter of lead side is going to use more body rotation for power and trail side is going to use trail wrist more actively.
June 17, 2024
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Madeleine
How does the GDP video following the Wide video and throwing the club head relate to the very DELIBERATE shoulder down arm move of the right arm for impact?
June 15, 2024
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Chuck
You're not deliberately trying to drop the shoulder, it's dropping as the lower body moves
June 16, 2024
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test
Hello Chuck one thing im really missing out on is the elbows at address. 1. Should the lead elbow point to the target. 2. Should u bend and rotate the trail elbow in. 3. is it okai to have some open shoulder with this setup ?
June 6, 2024
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Chuck
Search for "setup", there are videos that cover this
June 6, 2024
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Michael
Hi, going from the top down to GDP, should it feel like I am actively dropping the trail shoulder like it is one unit with the arms/hands, or should I feel like my hands and arms are dropping into GDP while trying to keep the feeling of trail shoulder higher than lead shoulder? It seems easier to get my hands in front of my body with the first move, but I don't know if that promotes too much secondary axis tilt.
June 3, 2024
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Chuck
The arms should drop into GDP naturally with proper body movement which really has to do with how the hips move like I cover in the wide glide wide drill and the 4 pressure shifts. If you feel like you have to force the trail shoulder low it will unnaturally create too much secondary tilt as you said
June 3, 2024
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Venkatesh
Awesome video. Such a key video for aspiring golfers!!
May 15, 2024
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Mark
This is the piece that confuses me the most! Surely the. delivery position is a result of pulling down keeping the angle . But previously, you told us to widen the arc and release from the top as early as possible. Yet the gDP is hanging on to the angle till late. And if you are swinging at speed and throwing arms away from the top , how can you meet this position?
May 14, 2024
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Patrick
Same question here. I kinda feel there is a contradiction from the previous vids to this one.
June 5, 2024
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Chuck
Your hands are moving faster, so you're not going to lose all your angle as I talked about in the main GOAT Code videos. You're not trying to hold anything, you're getting your hands to accelerate with the clubhead
May 15, 2024
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Anthony
Hi, I want to ask a question about internally rotating the lead/left arm. I totally get the value, it's the timing of when to implement the rotation. I was thinking by the time I hit P2, it should have happened and all I do at the point is maintain the internal rotation until the release has exhausted. Am I close?
May 12, 2024
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Chuck
The arm is gradually internally rotating throughout the swing and more is added during the initial phase of the downswing
May 13, 2024
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Paul
Chuck I find it easy to get into this position without even thinking about. All I do is feel my rt hand wind up in the backswing (max arm external rotation and max rt hand extension/radial deviation. I dont force it but it gives me a hard stop in the backswing. It feels very shallow but on video I’m on the shoulder plane. From there I throw the club like skipping a stone. In video I see my rt arm pretty much stay in same position during the downswing till I get to gdp. My rt elbow simply moves into my side. Only change is my rt wrist is going from radial to ulnar deviation. I’m I doing this right?
May 4, 2024
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Chuck
Sure sounds like it!
May 5, 2024
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Paul
Im sending you a video to review. I finally know what I should be doing in the golf swing. Feels so much more natural. TY
May 5, 2024
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charles
When is your new release video coming?
April 25, 2024
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Chuck
Next week or so
April 25, 2024
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Ronald
Is this for all full shots including wedges
April 20, 2024
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Chuck
yes
April 22, 2024
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Francisco
I just want to post my experience with the goat code so far. It has transformed my swing so much more than I expected. It took me a few weeks of watching the core GOAT code videos and working on what Chuck shows in each video. I've been putting in the reps until i was able to make a proper take away and back swing with little to no tension in my body and then properly throwing the club into it's own orbit. I've been swinging without a ball but I am tracking club head speed. On a good day I used to swing my driver around 95 mph. After training with the GOAT code I can now get up to 120 to 125 mph! And that feels so much easier than what I used to do before! If I swing easier I now average 115 mph with my driver! As good as it feels to swing so easy and get so much club head speed the path and face are so much more consistent than before. I can't wait to hit some balls on the practice range this weekend. Thank you Chuck for all your hard work!
April 12, 2024
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David
What do you feel helped you the most to get a 30 mph increase?
May 15, 2024
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Francisco
Trying to do nothing with the body, and just focusing on throwing from the top the way Chuck talks about in the videos. It wasn't immediate. I first got to 100 from 90, and then got incrementally faster as I got better at it. Throw as fast as you can with the wrists and let your body react. It's no surprise Chuck never talks about the follow thru. When the club goes that fast I feel like it's automatic. I did spend a few weeks with the first few videos getting used to letting the club go into it's own orbit. Big picture is throw the club as fast as you can with the wrists and fingers without using your body to turn.
May 19, 2024
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Chuck
That's incredible! You're going to have to start spotting me strokes! Great job man, going to be a fun summer for you!
April 15, 2024
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Steve
This makes a lot of sense in relation to getting into GDP Can you please put together a video outlining exactly how to get the arms and wrists into position from setup to the top? I struggle with how and when to set the wrists! I can get my Flexion/ Extension numbers in range on HackMotion but Ulnar/ Radial are always too Radial at the top! Would greatly appreciate a Step by step Feeling to get into GTP (Goat Top Position) Thanks Chuck!
April 2, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Steve, it's already in the works. The trick to this is understanding how the trail wrist can fully set without going into a lot of radial deviation with the left - here's a hint, the right wrist has to rotate
April 2, 2024
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Steve
Awesome! I am really excited for that! Without guessing and diving down too many rabbit holes… When I do as you say and take the right arm from GDP and go to the top, if I twist the right wrist clockwise or to the left when looking up at it then place the left that seems to look pretty darn good… I just know that with the HackMotion on, I can’t seem to get any better than +15, which is too radial compared to Thorborne and most pro examples…
April 2, 2024
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Chuck
Ya if the right wrist rotates clockwise it puts it in a position where it can't radially deviate very much and that cuts it down dramatically. Also the backswing needs to happen very very fast and this also prevents the wrist from setting too much as the pressure shift back to the lead side helps shorten the swing. Ask the GOAT Bot these questions - it already knows a lot of these answers
April 2, 2024
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Steve
Hey Chuck, Can you use the HackMotion with this video that you are putting together? I have no issues with hitting my numbers for flexion/extension… I feel this likely holds true for many? However it’s Ulnar/Radial deviation (Excessive wrist cock) where I run into trouble. Can you provide us with the GOAT “FEEL” for takeaway to the top position to help limit wrist cock and maintain a straight wrist? I asked the GOAT Bot… The response pointed to needing what I’m asking for! Thanks to you and the HackMotion, I have come to realize this is my biggest issue! If I can fix this, I think my swing will be pretty damn good! I really want to stay away from swing thoughts! But definitely need a feel to accomplish this as I just wrist cock way too easily, very ingrained… Thanks so much!!! Steve
April 5, 2024
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Chuck
Yep! I just did a lesson today that i'm going to be sharing with how this all fits together, so stay tuned over the next few days...
April 5, 2024
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Steve
That’s great news! Can’t wait to see it, put it to work and tie it all together!!! Thanks Chuck!
April 5, 2024
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Steve
I did try the bot… Real Chuck is still better! My biggest issue is the backswing… When I speed up the backswing, I find I extend and radial deviate a lot… So this next video is a huge game changer for me! I think if I had a solid understanding from set up to top and a simple feel to get there I will see massive improvements! Thanks again!
April 2, 2024
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Staale
How do you combine this move with the throw from the top Chuck? Regards Staale, Norway
March 29, 2024
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Chuck
The throw is happening while you're moving left, which helps move the arms into this position. People seem to interpret the throw as a cast where the hands don't move for some reason, that's not what's happening.
March 29, 2024
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Staale
Ok. This is pretty similar to Mike Austins swing. /Staale
March 29, 2024
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Michael
I'm trying to overcoming the 'chicken wing' issue in my swing. When I practice the 'wide glide wide' drill, my left arm maintains good form. However, as soon as I introduce a ball into my swing, the issue reappears. Could you recommend strategies to help me eliminate this problem?
March 16, 2024
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Chuck
It's likely that you are trying to add too much power with the right side of the body/arm and that's why it shows up when hitting a ball. Try hitting a ball with your trail arm feeling dead and if the problem goes away, there's your culprit. FYI, it's almost always incorrectly using the right arm that causes this issue!
March 17, 2024
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Chris
Getting my lead arm protracted and in a better position in GDP is a big improvement for those of us who early extension / hump the fire hydrant…it’s also helping the impact numbers using the Hackmotion which is a great reinforcement .
March 15, 2024
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Chuck
I'm guessing you're seeing more flexion at impact?
March 15, 2024
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Chris
Correct . My first runs using the Hackmotion pre working on GDP were: 64% Too Extended (36% in range) 59% Too Extended (38% in range) Post working on GDP ( when you spoke about the left shoulder protracted early in the vid , I paused and tested this ) Within a few shots only; 24% Too extended (71% in range) 24% too extended (76% in range) My top position started to be more flexed too but I can sort that with more practice.
March 15, 2024
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Paul
Hi Chuck, I'm loving what your more recent series is giving me. All these years, all the books,all the reasearch and videos - and as you say, it's all about the release. At this stage the only instruction, advise or tips I will even look at is yours and Padraig Harrington - a huge believer that 75-80% of your club-head speed is delivered by your arms, wrists and hands. The fact that he is a fellow countryman is beside the point! This latest move is the icing on the cake I've been looking for - getting the club into that delivery point and how to do it is a real light-bulb moment for me. One question - Driver Vs, irons, Vs Fairway Woods, Vs hybrids - are we looking at exactly the same delivery and swing thoughts & release with the only variation being initial set-up, axis tilt difference etc? Keep up the good work. PS I know you have always struggled with the flat stick - as have I. Back end of last year I started working on actively releasing the club head through impact instead of trying to hold it square to the target line. Massive improvement. Just thought I'd share.
March 12, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Paul, yes always the same with every club in the bag, you only want one swing. Thanks for the tip on the putter but it's not my stroke as much as the read.
March 14, 2024
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David
The whole G.O.A.T. series has been so helpful. This video and the last couple on the GDP have been instrumental in giving me a better understanding of what's going on in my swing. Got a few drives off at lease 260 maybe 270m. It felt effortless. All I did all day was focus on th GDP. I FLEW a 5i 20 past the flag on a 168m pin. [Got up & down anyway) That a super 5i in my book. I have to recalculate all my distances etc again ... good problem to have. I still have a way to go but im confident I'll get the consistency in good time with the certainty that i have a good idea of where im i am needing to focus my practicec and learning. I sooooo appreciate your inquiring mind & curiosity to keep digging so that you could explain all this to us humble golf addicted tragics who also want that extra 1% and want to enjoy the beautiful game. Thanks Chuck!!!
March 11, 2024
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Chuck
That's awesome! You're welcome!
March 11, 2024
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David
You're Welcome Chuck. I'm looking forward to the next instalment.
March 11, 2024
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Asle
I assume the Axiom is still at work here with its clockwise motion? It's worth mentioning, to tie this to what's going on here?
March 11, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, still the same move
March 11, 2024
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Dushi
When I try to get into GDP with the trail shoulder/arm externally rotated, I leave the clubface open and hit pushes and slices. Do I need a stronger grip? I feel like I have to release the club really forcefully to square the face from the GDP. Any thoughts Chuck?
March 10, 2024
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Chuck
The arm is in neutral in gdp not externally rotated. If that’s ok then yes your grip is probably off
March 10, 2024
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Harry
Hi Chuck, I am struggling to understand releasing from the top, widening, with create maintain release lag mantra that you often quote. In these pictures all the golfers have clearly maintained lag? I also struggle with another contradiction, you used to tell us that if we swung with our arms we didn’t have enough muscle mass to generate the required force/speed. You now say we can do it all with just hand speed as that’s most efficient. Is it because you’re trying to teach by feel rather than real? This isn’t criticism as I am a big fan of your Goatcode and it is already improving my golf but I would just like to understand.
March 10, 2024
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Chuck
See my response to this question below
March 10, 2024
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Mike
Working from the widening the wrists video how does that video from the top of the swing widening our wrists get you to the club parallel to the ground position and the impact position show here? Just looking for a more in dept explanation on how to get from top of backswing to impact using the widening thought and the pre impact and impact thoughts. Thanks!
March 9, 2024
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Chuck
See my response to Richard below...
March 9, 2024
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Steve
THANK YOU!!!! Thank you so much for this GOAT Series and for putting it all together with HackMotion!!! I couldn’t have asked for a more perfect program to improve my game, give me a better understanding of how to fix my issues and finally have that FEEL to eliminate swing thoughts!!! I am a bit of a golf nerd when it comes to the swing, mechanics and the history! This was truly amazing Chuck!!! Learning about the swings of the GOATS and how to train and learn what they feel… Incredible sir!!! All I can say is every part of the GOAT Series has truly resonated with me this offseason and my swing is truly feeling more effortless than ever! Numbers on the HackMotion are really improving and starting to match up more and more! Keep up the great work! I will report back when I have a chance to really dial in with some solid practice! ( damn working for a living…lol…) Great work! Steve B Cheers, Steve
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
Thanks for the feedback Steve! Glad you’re enjoying it! I have enjoyed looking deeply at the goats swings and seeing just how similar they are in so many critical ways.
March 8, 2024
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Gary
I've been a fan of your site for many years now but this video in particular shows just how you would never find this GDP by trial and error. I now know it is right but on my own I would never have thought to try it, never mind persevere with it. Thank you for showing us, demonstrating it and proving it with the GOATs I have long thought that there were people who "got it" (the swing) and the vast majority (80%?) who didn't. Those that "got it" played great golf; those that didn't struggled for a lifetime despite diligent efforts. This is probably part of what we don't get. Perhaps with this video you have finally managed to unlock the first "secret" for the rest of us. And it might explain why the majority good/great golfers just can't teach it.....because they "got it" but didn't even know what they had "got"....it was natural for them. [Just think of the earlier video of a 5-year old Tiger]. They were as puzzled as to why everybody didn't get "it" as the rest of us were puzzled that we couldn't get "it". The only thing that saved me was a lot of hard work to get a decent short game (to make up for the lack of "easy" power). Thank You
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
You’re re welcome Gary and I agree 100%. It’s a somewhat strange and unnatural motion that most wont magically stumble upon. It’s interesting to me that the goats all did it and most golfers kind of do the opposite instinctively
March 8, 2024
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Stephen
How do you do this/get that GDP feel without slicing the ball? I'm finding that I can hit that position on video but leave the clubface wide open at impact.
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
First place to check would be your grip. With a proper grip it's really hard NOT to square the face, especially with a proper right hand grip.
March 8, 2024
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Venkatesh
Hi Chuck This arm at GDP is absolutely a fantastic feeling and an awakening. As you know, i have been working so hard at this over the last few months all the way from the feeling of “skimming a rock over the water” to the GOAT code. The GDP rounds out the Goat Code in my opinion and resonates with me so well! I absolutely love the feeling and, everything falls into place so well, automatically without a whole bunch of swing thoughts. The way you explain is great making you the GOATrainers in the world. Over the last few months I have gone from over the top, early extending to some of the best ball striking rounds of my life! Shot a 77 last Wednesday, tee to green and two putts were the norm!! Thanks Chuck. Keep it coming. You are the best!
March 7, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you V! We're slowly getting to the bottom of what the GOATs did and it turns out they were just making their lives easier by doing some things that on the surface don't seem that obvious. It's cool to me how through the hitting area they did things in such a similar way even though other parts of their swings looked so different.
March 8, 2024
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Ron
Chuck, you said the how to was the tricky part. I think your explanation on the how to is incredibly clear and easy to understand. I find your communication skills to be your best attribute, keep up the great work.
March 7, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you Ron!
March 8, 2024
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Tyler
This is awesome. I've been working on dropping my arms into that same position but this provides more clarity. The best part is that it almost automatically transfers your weight and opens your hips because your lower body needs to get the heck out of the way. It's just a natural, athletic motion. Good stuff sir.
March 7, 2024
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Chuck
You got it! The GOATs did these movements naturally so there must be a natural way to do it!
March 7, 2024
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Tyler
I just kind of think in my head......drop and release. Drop and release.
March 7, 2024
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David
Chuck, way to simplify the most important part of the golf swing and give us the key steps and information on how to attain the most allusive parts of the GOAT's swings with EFFORTLESS POWER! I feel like you are delivering the SECRETS to what everyone who plays golf strives for in their swing. Keep it coming as you become more aware of what is important for us Amateurs to focus on in such simplified terms! This is a GOAT MASTERCLASS! Thank you again for your continued passion to pursue this knowledge and then to turn around and deliver it back to us Amateur's on what we need to do to mimic the Pros (who probably don't know what they are doing anyway)!
March 6, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you David, we're making headway...
March 7, 2024
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Richard
Great video. How do we combine this with the “throw from the top” motion and still maintain the “wide” angle of the elbow and wrist in the downswing.
March 6, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Richard thanks! Im not sure I understand the question?
March 6, 2024
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Richard
Sorry. I’m probably just doing this incorrectly. But by using the throwing motion at the top of the swing to start the downswing as you show in another video, that would seem to be straightening the right arm more than you are showing in this video.
March 6, 2024
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Chuck
Ahhh. Go back and watch that one again and pay attention to where i am talking about how this allows the hands to move faster. You dont just straighten your arm. That would be a weak throw and leave you nothing left to hit with at the bottom.
March 6, 2024

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