Widen the Trail Wrist

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In step 2, we learn how to start feeling speed in the swing effortlessly


In the first video, I introduced you this concept of widening the angle to start the downswing, or casting or throwing from the top, like the Greats have talked about in their swings.

Now we're going to talk about what this trail hand does.

And for most golfers for throughout the years, the trail hand has always been the one that causes the most trouble.

But the reality is this, when used correctly, is your best friend.

Think of the lead hand, the lead arm, as providing structure and shape and doing some heavy lifting in the swing.

In other words, it helps swing the club up to the top and gives it support and structure.

It's not moving a whole lot and it's not really there to provide a ton of speed.

It helps, of course, But really, What you're trying to do is create this big wide angle and maintain a wide angle all the way to the top of the swing.

Because if you're like this, then you're having a much more difficult time timing this cast, timing this throat in order to get the club to move fast and sync with your body.

So now what you think about, as long as this one's just kind of providing the structure and the shape and maintaining width, then the trail hand becomes your feel hand, your sensitivity, your speed.

And that's how Tiger has always talked about his hand.

He associates all shots with his right hand.

And the reality is most golfers don't know what to do with this thing.

And so sometimes, and you can certainly do all sorts of different stuff with it.

You can leave it completely off the club.

You can have it barely on there.

You can have nothing but right arm.

But the reality is what the greats are doing is really, really simple.

And all it's doing is helping accelerate this widening that I talked about in the first video.

So what I want to do first is just get a feel again with your lead arm only going to the top, maintaining this width.

Remember, don't want to get your wrist like this.

Maintain this width in this wrist.

And then as you start to go tip the shaft, let it swing, come through to a nice balanced, relaxed follow through.

Do that again a couple of times.

Let the club brush the grass, start to feel speed effortlessly as you begin to widen that angle to start the swing.

And that's what you want to feel is you're trying to make this club trace the widest angle possible.

That's going to give you the most time to accelerate the club.

So once you've got a feel for this again, and you've got that feel of the club tipping past that balance point, starting to get cast out into its own orbit and starting to move faster, put your trail hand back on, but don't really think about doing anything with it.

Just focus on the same movement, focus on the same feel that you had with just your lead arm only.

So now we do the same thing.

We'll go to the top.

Same thing.

What do you feel?

Notice how much more speed my hand's barely on there.

I'm holding it really just with the last two fingers and the first knuckle on this right hand.

We'll talk more about this in the grip video.

But note, as I begin to widen the angle, I can use this right hand to move it very fast.

That's all I'm doing to get all of that speed is this.

It's very important.

Look at how much speed I can generate.

Look at my body's not doing anything.

Again, my body, just like the first video, it's just kind of VJ singing it.

It's just chilled out and relaxed right now.

All I'm trying to do is begin to accelerate this widening that I already feel in my lead hand to pitch the shaft and just speed it up.

And now you're starting to understand where speed comes from really in the golf swing.

It's not your trail arm.

It's not your trail shoulder, not the trail side of your body, not that you can't use those things.

You can.

It's your trail hand.

And that's the important distinction.

And that's why we're going through it in this sequence.

Widen with the left first, get the feel.

And then right hand, trail hand, speed it How much stress is that on your body?

None.

My body is just responding to this.

And that's why it's so important to get the feeling of this motion to speed up the widening of the shaft, the widening of the angle between the forearm and the shaft, getting rid of lag.

Now, Hogan and Jones were both very adamant about this right hand and this right arm and this right shoulder.

I said, last thing on earth you want to do is use those things from the top.

But then Hogan at the bottom said, I wish I had three right hands.

This is one of those cases of feel versus real.

First of all, You absolutely do not want to use your right arm and right shoulder that aggressively in the downswing.

Now there's certain swing movements and patterns in which you can do that.

But let me show you what typically happens when you start using this.

The first thing you're going to see is while I'm feeling this to start the downswing, Most golfers trying to feel this because it feels way more powerful, because I'm getting way more powerful muscles involved.

My right shoulder, my right pec muscle, my right tricep, all of these things can start moving this club really fast.

But of course, from down the line, I'm done.

And what did Tiger say in the first video?

He's working to get that club back in front of his body.

So if I go hard like this and I start rotating early, my hands will get stuck.

They'll get thrust out toward the ball and the club will get stuck behind.

And so now all of a sudden I'm in trouble.

Great players want the club back in front of them.

So in other words, if I start to turn, look where my hands go.

Now, You've seen many videos me talk about in the years past where tour pros hands look like they take a very, very steep path back down.

They never look like they're going this way, but most amateurs do.

What causes that?

There's a couple of things.

One could be, I could start pushing the club with my right arm and shoulder because that feels really good.

It feels really powerful, but it just wrecks your golf swing.

And that's what Hogan was talking about when he said they are swing wreckers and they will ruin you.

His literal words in his book, five lessons that the right arm and shoulder and finger will ruin you.

Okay.

So he was pretty serious about this stuff, But what Hogan did was he was already much more shallow and the club dropped right back down as he's doing this.

Of course, it looked like he had tons of lag, but he's also trying to get the club back out in front of him.

That's what all great golfers do.

No great golfer wants the club stuck like this and they definitely don't want the club going this way.

How do you get the club back out in front of you?

Well, the last thing you would want to do is start rotating from the top.

If I start rotating, even the slightest amount, let's just say I go up to the top and instead of doing this with my hands, I start turning my shoulders.

Well, which way did my hands Immediately out toward the ball.

Okay.

Well, that's, that's not ideal.

I know I don't want to turn my shoulders from the top.

You've heard, keep the right shoulder back or keep your back facing the target.

All those things are valid.

What if I start turning my hips?

Wait a second.

No, no.

I know I'm supposed to turn my hips.

I'm supposed to turn my hips as fast as I can.

Well, unless you're Gumby and you turn your hips, your hands are going that way.

And you don't see any tour players doing that.

Their hands all work straight down.

Any great ball striker, their hands are working almost vertically at a much steeper path than amateurs.

So what you'll find is any way that you try and generate what you feel or associate as power in the golf swing, which will come from pushing off your right foot, your right hip, turning your core.

All of those rotational things will cause your hands to start to move out this way.

It's just the way our bodies work, right?

I'm not flexible enough to just twist my hips in any natural way and not have my hands go out that way.

And neither are you.

Maybe if you're a child, you might be able to do that.

But the reality is that's not what great players did in their swing.

They all talk about their hands.

And the hands have kind of been bastardized in the golf swing.

I've taught swings where you're much more body oriented and your hands can feel passive.

That works.

There's all sorts of different ways to hit the golf ball.

But the greats all talk about hands.

Their hands, their hands, their hands.

Their hands speed more than anything.

The clip I posted of Tiger in the intro video is like, I never worry about my body speed.

I'm all worried about hand speed, hand speed, hand speed.

Trying to get their hands to move fast.

And that really comes down to understanding force in the golf swing.

And that's the word I want you to put in your brain.

But I want to give you a different connotation for it.

Because we need speed in the golf swing.

Power is where everything breaks down.

You can make the most beautiful looking backswing, but if you have no idea how to create speed in the downswing, you're always going to fall apart.

You're always going to try and do something to muscle it, to do something you think is right.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

But if you don't understand how to generate force in the golf swing, you're never, ever going to get out of your bad swing faults.

But force is really a simple thing to think about.

It's the technical thing is definitions, mass times acceleration.

Here's the mass that we're trying to accelerate.

That's it.

That's the whole golf swing.

Lots of different ways you can do it.

I can take the mass of my body and try and accelerate it.

Or I can do it with my hands as I'm showing here, which again, throwing the club from the top.

This is a lot more efficient way to create speed.

This is it.

This is all I have to feel.

And if I do that and I relax my body and let my body just move with in response to this club, look at how much speed I have.

I did not try to use my body for power at all.

I literally threw the club.

And as I throw the club, I'm accelerating that mass.

I'm trying to generate force in the swing.

Force to me is speed.

It's not power.

I'm not trying to feel power.

What I'm going to do is the goal in the golf swing.

That has always been my goal with rotary swing.

Because the less effort I put into it, A, the more consistent I'm going to be.

B, the less stress and wear and tear it is on my body.

And C, I'm not going to be as tired after a round of golf.

If I'm working as hard as I can, like I'm doing a deadlift on every shot, I'm going to be exhausted.

I want you to think of force as what you're trying to generate in the swing.

And that's just accelerating mass.

That is your goal.

Now, trust me, I realize this is counter to pretty much everything that's in golf instruction out there today.

Other than what the anecdotal things we have of golfers like Jack Nicklaus saying, he feels like he throws it from the top.

The reality is that in order to produce speed in the golf swing, this thing isn't that heavy.

It's a couple of hundred grams, give or take a little bit.

So as you're swinging this thing, you can use your whole body mass to move it.

And that absolutely works.

Or you can use your hands and that also works.

Now, which one do you think is going to be easier on the body?

Now, of course, the immediate fear that I'm certain many of you have is like, I've been casting the club my whole life.

So, and I don't hit the ball anywhere and I don't hit it consistent.

So how does this help me at all?

It's understanding that first of all, if you're probably casting the way that most amateurs do, it's because you're pushing with your right arm and shoulder, like Ben Hogan warned about in his book.

That's not what it is.

It's this, it's just your wrist.

We need speed.

Remember force, we're trying to generate acceleration and this can accelerate really quickly.

And it doesn't take that much force to get good club head speed.

And as you start to get a feel for this, and you become sensitive to it, And you need to do as many as you can, feeling just the left widening and the effortless release of that, getting that club and wrist released properly.

And then your trail hands, you put it on there, feel the same thing.

Note the club is still released over.

If I'm starting to do something weird, kind of manipulate my hands and what have you, you're going to see that that position is going to change.

But if you keep the basic structure of the swing with the lead arm, casting the club and releasing, and then you speed it up with the trail hand, you're going to swing so much faster with so much less effort because your body can move faster.

Now, how does that work?

Really?

We all know that relaxed muscles move faster than tense muscles, right?

If I was going to jump up to try and touch the ceiling here, if I was really tight in my legs, it's not going to work.

But if I was springing in light and quick, I would be able to jump much higher.

Same thing's true in the golf swing.

Your body can move faster when it's more relaxed.

I spent years trying to get my hips and body to move like Tiger Woods.

It was when I stopped trying to move my hips and body like Tiger Woods that it started moving more like Tiger Woods.

And then my arms and club and all of that stuff started to happen automatically.

And that's when it became super clear to me that this little five-year-old that I showed in the intro video, he had it right all along.

Just throwing the club and your body begins to respond to that.

And then your body can move really, really fast.

So what you want to feel first is the club head beginning to accelerate and feel the hand becoming light.

Feel that club starting to be able to swing in sync with that club head, moving fast because the club head is moving fast.

And once you have that and your hands feel soft, well now my arm is soft and it can move fast.

And then my body, it goes all the way up the chain.

And we tend to think of it the opposite way.

Oh, the swing starts from the ground up and you got to have, you know, your legs in a powerful position and so on and so forth.

Again, you can absolutely swing that way.

It will totally work.

It just is going to be a heck of a lot more work than what Nicholas did.

Jack Nicholas didn't look like he was working that hard.

In fact, if you look at him at setup, his legs were basically like locked out.

He's like standing straight up.

Does this look like an athletic position that you see of Jack on the screen here, where his legs are basically straightened up and then he straightens it up even more going back.

It's not a real powerful leg drive that you're going to have in your swing, unless you start bending down and using your hips and twisting all these things.

When everything started to click for me is when my body started feeling like it was doing less and less and less on every single shot.

And the less it felt like it had to do.

And the more I got the sensation of my hands starting to cast the club and getting speed early in the swing throughout the entire downswing, all of a sudden my body aches and pains and things that I've had for a long, long, long time went away because my body's not doing anything.

Of course, that's a bit of an overstatement.

It's doing something, but really what it's doing is it's responding to this club.

And as long as my club, that is moving fast and my arms and hands are not trying to force it to do that, they're just casting it out into its own orbit.

And as I do that, I can swing very fast, feel very balanced, very relaxed and zero strain on my body.

Now, the key to this is understanding what you need to feel in your hands to throw the club correctly.

So for those of you who are casting the club and not really understanding how to get it to work, a lot of this has to do with your grip.

And that's the next video.

So go to the next video.

I'm going to walk you through exactly how you need to grip the club, just like the greats, in order to feel proper effortless speed.

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Jonathan
How can I access the rest of the videos in this series. I can’t see them from goat code menu and I don’t know what the titles are to look them up. Thanks.
July 6, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jonathan. Are they not listed to your left like this?
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I think I got it. On my computer it lets me switch to C4 program to see these particular videos. I don't see a way to do that on the mobile version.
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Hello Jonathan. What happens if you rotate it to landscape mode?
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Jonathan
Doesn't look like it changes for me in landscape mode on mobile. Thanks for your help Craig. Hope all is well!
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Jonathan
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July 7, 2025
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Tony
Hey Chuck Thanks for the excellent instruction. At driving range today and yes took awhile for me to keep the body from being so active, which is weird after trying to rev it up for years. Irons started fly but driver still a problem. Re-watched this video today and am I right in that the right elbow does not extend (casting), but the right wrist ulnar deviates from the top? Yet the left arm does cast?
September 25, 2024
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Chuck
Both wrists have to start releasing the club but the right arm does not need to be actively extended
September 27, 2024
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John
OK. I think I've figured it out. At the top of the backswing, just as I fall to my lead foot, I am throwing the club behind me -- or completely away from the target line. When I do it right my irons fly high and long. For example I hit an uphill 7-iron just over a yard past the hole from 171 yards with little effort. I hit an 8-iron ten yards too long -- 160 yards -- on a par-3 and it wasn't even the purest strike. I'd say I'm hitting my irons 15 to 20 yards longer than normal. However, my driver still only goes 200 yards or so. What am I doing wrong with the big stick??
August 27, 2024
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Chuck
HI John, sounds like you're on the right track, but I'd have to see the driver to know for sure
August 27, 2024
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Madeleine
I want to make sure that I am letting the club fall in the right direction. IF I COMPLETELY restricted the body from turning after backswing and standing club up and letting it fall ... does the club head fall in front of me and toward the target line????
June 19, 2024
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Chuck
It doesn't work like that unfortunately, you can't isolate the body movement and get the proper feeling of the club. They have to work together and when they do, the club will still feel like it's staying more back behind you, which technically if you didn't move your body at all it would be a massive exaggeration and not create the proper feeling.
June 19, 2024
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Douglas
Awesome stuff! In just 10 minutes hitting into a net in my backyard, I could feel the difference. I had a follow through that I NEVER had before! I would love to see a video of this with a comparison using both an iron and a driver.
May 22, 2024
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Mark
If you are only thinking of hands how can you get consistency of accuracy with square face at impact ? My issue is sometimes I am face open and sometimes shut on way back and that causes inconsistency at impact.
May 11, 2024
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Chuck
It's a fallacy to think that the hands are what lead to inconsistency. The opposite is true. However, incorrect use of the hands will lead to bad shots.
May 13, 2024
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Mark
You make it look so easy as the body turns through as a result of the arms swinging and widening. Not everyone allows body to turn right through as a result. It stays too square often. One has to keep bottom back so finish on balance on left heel , yet often the centrafugal force of the club swinging at full speed , makes legs slide or go forward and that takes one off balance and you push ball or flip it . My question is, do you focus on being rooted to ground with feet and core when swinging like this or do you just allow it to happen naturally ? And do you have to do loads of gym core work ? Also, at speed of a swing, how can you bow at impact and then cup on way through consciously . If you bow consciously , you push ball right often and hold club off
May 11, 2024
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Chuck
Keep working through the videos, there's all the detail you need about this in the rest of the series.
May 13, 2024
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Craig
When using the right wrist to "cast" the club, do you still do the clockwise wrist?
April 26, 2024
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Chuck
Yep, all movement is clockwise for a rightie
April 26, 2024
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dave
Chuck Wonderful series. I bought a book 25 years ago (published in 1994) - Natural Golf the Hit written by Peter Croker and Jeffery Johnson. Gave it a try and occasionally would go back and take a look. After viewing your GOAT series it resonated with the Hit premise. Recommend you try to get a copy (hard to find). You would very much enjoy comparing your GOAT theories with their approach. I pulled the book off the shelf and have committed to the GOAT swing concept. It works. Thank you Dave
April 21, 2024
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Will
Chuck, I remember David Duval talking about this back in the day…and by this, I think he’s referring to the same concept as what you’re teaching in the Goat Code…have you seen this video? https://youtu.be/Uync0tNe-28?si=4wG_zx3-aSZU28DM. He describes the release more like Mike Austin…but the casting from the top looks like it lines up pretty well with what you’re teaching bro!
April 17, 2024
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Chuck
I have seen David talk about something similar before. He is a member at Castle Pines where I used to teach and it was fun watching him hit balls, but his pattern is a bit unique in many ways. I like it, but what I see in Tiger and Jack is significantly less body rotation as the new video (still uploading, should be up in about an hour) talks about. David's motion is complex. He's super collapsed at the top, rotates his body a ton and if he allowed the face to rotate he'd hook it off the planet. Instead, I've watched him a million balls that only work left to right on the range and on the course. Perfectly fine, but limiting. Tiger's pattern is much more neutral allowing for far greater control over the ball rather than being fixed to a single shot shape - not that I mind that.
April 17, 2024
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Will
Yeah, I can agree with that. Just interesting that he also feels the “cast” if you will, from the top. Appreciate the reply!
April 17, 2024
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MIGUEL
Hi Chuck, I joined rotaryswing.com in 2007. Took me 6 months to learn how to rotate correctly and pulling instead of pushing was key. (18 to 4 hci). Yesterday I watched the Goat Code video series and decided to give it a try today. I hit the ball crispier, longer and straighter in one range session ( Also played 6 holes really well) but I needed to feel I was pulling from GDP into the release. GREAT results. I COULD NOT release the club with the right wrist move ( pull hooked all shots due to an active right wrist throw). Any Idea on what I could be doing wrong? Thank you in advance!!
April 9, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Miguel, most likely a shut face in the backswing or rotating your shoulders too much in the downswing.
April 10, 2024
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Jeff
I began by practicing this on video while hitting an impact bag so I could see my impact position. What a difference being solely focused on this widen/cast/throw move makes. The body just magically turns out of the way and my impact position is almost perfect. Rory talks about moving hard from the top into the GDP (split hand drill is his fav). This widening concept really chelped me feel what Rory was talking about and helps explain how he gets so much power from a relatively small frame. I played last night and while there were a few bad shots, I was way longer off the tee than normal. Well done Chuck
March 11, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome! Nothing wrong with being way longer off the tee!
March 11, 2024
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James
Great stuff. When synced up just right, I hit my best shots. A little clarification though : I feel throwing the club from the top to be a slightly different feel than the “throw the golf ball” out in front of you. Are they different techniques or feels? Do they accomplish the same thing? Thanks.
February 29, 2024
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Chuck
The same thing, just more specific here with the wrists after my study of the GOATs. I find that trying to "throw" leads to too much trail arm activation and leads to elbow pain when adding speed. Here, the wrist is doing the work and the arm/elbow are far less involved which is how the greats swung the club.
March 1, 2024
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Kade
I have a question for you regarding the trail wrist and the latest release "the two things you must do with your hands...". You mention in one of the GOAT Code videos to take away with the left and widen with the right from the top. I understand the left is just a guide and the right is the feel, BUT, in the latest video there is a lot of "hands" (plural) mentioned to widen. I've had really great success with left/right, but would I get more speed and better contact / connection if I added in a little lead wrist also? As an example 80/20 right vs left (making that up)? Or should I stick with what's working? Don't know if this is too much to feel and then bow the wrist on the way down at the same time. Thank you again!
February 21, 2024
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Chuck
HI Kade, both hands are working to widen the angle and accelerate the club for sure, one just is in a more powerful position than the other, but you definitely use both.
February 22, 2024
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Kade
Thank you Chuck! Just want you to know this feel gets better and better and harder to make mistakes... When you do have a mishit, it's also very easy to diagnose what you did wrong, i.e. too much body rotation to start, not enough glide to the lead side etc. Using just the right hand and wrist added speed, better swing path and flight. I just tried a few incorporating some lead wrist and hand with the trail and the contact was twice as solid and "different" in a good way. The contact felt more solid / stable and the hiss of the ball off the face is intoxicating! What I like about this is you are giving us the simple tools to be our own swing coach, so that if a shot goes bad, you know exactly what feel you missed and you can rehearse and not repeat it on the next shot. There is no "mid-round downward spiral". Again, can't thank you enough!
February 22, 2024
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Chuck
You nailed it Kade, that's always been my goal - to teach you how to teach yourself! I'm working on some new members videos to cover impact and the downswing for the Refining the GOAT Code section that will cover these nuances in more detail, but as you've seen, it's not rocket science, just need the right info and you can compress the ball just like any pro out there.
February 22, 2024
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Michael
Chuck, I would recommend furthering your studies; by watching "Austinology" you can buy it at hititlonger.com
February 19, 2024
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Chuck
I'm not very familiar with Mike's stuff, mostly because I didn't care for the complexity introduced by his huge hip turn and inside takeaway. I'm much more interested in how to make the swing as simple as possible.
February 21, 2024
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Michael
Chuck, you are already teaching the basic Austin teachings. I just thought you might be interested in his philosophy since you have a technical mind. Mike was all about the step and throw with the right hand. The content you started sending last November attracted you to me because of the right hand throw. I hope it is OK I am using the Austin pivot with the throw?
February 21, 2024
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Chuck
Sure Michael, million ways to skin the cat. A throw absolutely works. Using more just the hands works. I'm simply headed down the simplest pathway I can possibly find because for most golfers, the swing is an enigma and I'm trying to make it simple for everyone to be able to truly properly strike the ball. The fewer movements, the closer this is to reality for most golfers.
February 21, 2024
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Michael
Thank you, Chuck for answering my questions. I know your busy guy, I love going through each phase and they have sharpened my skills. Thanks again for making my membership affordable, money has been tight these last few years since COVID. Thanks again, Michael
February 22, 2024
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Chuck
You're very welcome Michael! Now go play some great golf this summer - that's all the thanks I need!
February 22, 2024
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Earl
How do we shape the ball (draws and fades)?
February 10, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Earl! Try the search function and type in fade or draw.
February 10, 2024
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Tassos
Hi Chuck - This is an extremely interesting concept. I tried it in my garage swinging a club without a ball and it feels amazing. I am generating tremendous speed while feeling that I am doing nothing. It is the first time that I can swing a club without having 100 swing thoughts. I can't wait to try it next time I go to the range and see the results. If it works, it will be amazing. Is the concept (and the motions) exactly the same when you use a driver or other woods vs an iron?
February 5, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, same with every club in the bag
February 5, 2024
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Tausif
Hi Chuck. Thank you for yet another wonderful way of looking at the golf swing and probably the best one yet. I just need you to spell it out once for me for clarification. From the top, as I let gravity increase the angle in the wrists and let it fall past the balance point, should I eventually add to that with active trail wrist for more speed? Or should it always be passive like the initial feels. Sorry if this sounds silly even after you've explained it so well.
February 3, 2024
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Chuck
No, you will definitely speed it up with the trail wrist, the "fall" is just to get a feel for the widening without much force so you can learn what it feels like
February 4, 2024
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Ken
Hey there Chuck, Great stuff as always. Question: With this method of swinging the club, do you make a complete backswing (before transitioning to the lead leg) then throw? Or, do you start the transition to the lead leg early ( say just past the take away) in the backswing then when your arms get to the top start throwing? Or does it even matter? Hope this makes sense.
February 3, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Ken, check out the 4 pressure shifts video. The downswing always starts before the backswing is finished.
February 3, 2024
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Jeff
What a great video. I'm just practicing inside but this flows seems to make turning the club head easier on follow through.
February 2, 2024
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Joel
hi Chuck, congratulation for youre swing concept i just try a couple swing thinking wrist action first to widening angle and it s feel great speed and so simple. Do you try to feel the same way for 1/2 and 3/4 swing, shorter swing? Thanks best regards!
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
Thanks Joel! Yes take a look at the video i just posted on YouTube with max homa and he’s hitting short shots with the same casting motion
February 2, 2024
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Richard
Hey Chuck. As always, love your stuff and I hope I'll be able to the correct feel to implement. I did have a question. You talk about working to get the club back in front of your body. I'm a little confused as to what that means. It would seem that even if you come over the top, which we don't want to do, the club gets in front of your body, or doesn't it. So, I guess I'm just not understanding what you're trying to explain with this. Hope you can help.
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
Often over the top starts with some initial body rotation that directs the hands out toward the ball. This prevents the arms and club from getting back in front of the body. By the body staying shut to start down the hands get a head start to start working the club back in front of the body like it was at address.
February 2, 2024
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Richard
I think I get it. So would it be that the club gets in front relative to my chest and shoulders if I let my body just follow along? Club gets in front, shoulders initially are closed and start to follow along and end up square at impact, hips just naturally open more and quicker? Not sure I'm explaining it right.
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
Yes I think we are saying the same thing.
February 2, 2024
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Richard
Yes. Just finished watching the Body Movement video. Should have watched that before asking the question. Makes perfect sense now. And, thanks for all the hard work you put into this. Nobody does it better.
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
Thanks! Ya these videos all need to be watched together for you to have the complete picture
February 2, 2024
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Robert
This is slightly shocking, as it sounds as if it contradicts everything you have been saying for years. I remember you have frequently said you do NOTHING with the upper half of the body while doing the squat to square, etc. I wonder if another way of looking at these new ideas are that you are simply pausing at the top of the swing and ALLOWING the club to start to release the tension in the wrist caused by the wrist cock?
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
No one has ever swung the club like Tiger Woods - until now. To learn how to swing like him, it would require me to do something different than what I and everyone else has been doing. As for the pause, none of the GOATs I studied had anything resembling a pause in their swings.
February 2, 2024
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Robert
Well, it may not be a pause as such, but I see a smoothness in the transition which many amateurs do not have, and this causes hitting from the top and coming out and across. And your idea of losing the lag earlier is not something I see in the swings of Ben Hogan, Annika Sorenstam, Jimmy Demaret, Sam Snead, Ernie Els, Sergio Garcia, Fred Couples, Rory Mcilroy, etc. I do see it in some modern players, but I don't think it is universal. Maybe a factor is the strength and fitness of modern professionals, which means that, unlike amateurs, they can use their superior body speed and flexibility to power the ball with less hand action, which gives them more consistency (I remember you saying the small muscles of the hands and arms are twitchy and unreliable). Having said that, Tiger was one of the first to get fit, but he's had 4 back operations, I believe! I'm interested too in your advocacy of the interlocking grip. There's not much talk of this, but many modern pros use it. If anything I would have thought this grip lessens the action of the trail hand, and allows more lag?
February 3, 2024
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Chuck
That's the problem with just looking at video. You see an illusion. You have to either see 3D capture or video from multiple angles to understand what's really happening. Looking at the swing just face on and down the line can be wildly misleading. In Hogan's case, like Sergio, they both shallow the club with a bit of lead arm internal rotation to start down. This creates the look of increasing lag when in fact the opposite is true and 3D capture shows this clearly. Ernie Els HUCKS the club from the top with a huge cast. 3D capture of hundreds of tour pros proves this undoubtedly. From what I've seen, only a tiny handful of pros actually downcock although many look like they do. Take a look at some of the trail arm vids that AMG has done with all their tour data https://youtu.be/4wNXv-ple4I?si=GuR0eqmBo0GCC6lv As for Tiger's back surgery, surely you realize that was all due to Foley, no? Even Tiger has said this privately many times and it was obvious it was going to happen as I predicted on youtube in December 2010.
February 3, 2024
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James
Chuck, after viewing your 5 videos, I tried "throwing the club"on the course this past Wednesday. I have been fighting the tension in my hands and arms for years but your clear and concise explanation of the wrist position at the top of the swing was a true eye opener to gaining true speed. My arms and hands haven't felt that loose and fast ever!. That small correction has totally reduced my arm tension and allowed me to swing freely with accuracy and consistency. I have been one of your disciples for over 4 years. Thank you for all the work you have done to continue to make this evolving golf learning process such a joy in clear, easy to understand language. I look forward to completing my reps and continuing to lower my scores to well below my 79 age.
February 1, 2024
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Chuck
You’re welcome!
February 2, 2024
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Christopher
Hi Chuck, I’ve been watching your new GOAT Theory and plan on trying to have my teenage daughter try it this weekend. I also have been watching a lot of fitting videos on Youtube recently as I’m going to have my girls fitted for new clubs. I saw this one video where the lady was telling the fitter about a round she played with Jon Rahm and she explains the tip he gave her about throwing the club and keeping it in front just as you explain in the new series. Check this video around mins 6:00 to 7:00 to see what I’m talking about. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4K4W7wjQY. Thanks for all you have offered me as a dad to help my girls become great golfer since 2021. ???? Chris
February 1, 2024
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Chuck
Ha! Wild! I have always thought of Rahm as a thrower for sure. Hard to produce that much speed with such a short swing without an aggressive throw.
February 2, 2024
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John
This really does work. It’s strange but when you focus on the action of the trail hand and that balance point of the club, the body just moves the way it’s supposed to without any thought at all.
January 31, 2024
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Chuck
The irony in golf is beyond the absurd! Stop trying to move ur body and ur body moves the right way!
January 31, 2024
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Jeremiah
This is so strange. Over the last 6 months I’ve also been obsessed with the hands. As you’ve also mentioned: I’ve heard Pete Cowen, Sean Foley, Tiger, etc., all obsessing and talking about hands. After watching A LOT of footage (which you and Craig beat into my head lol) of my own swing, I’ve had way too much lag myself. I’ve been a RST guy for about 2yrs, and this is by far the most “EUREKA” project I’ve watched you do dude. Thank you for organizing this, and making it a complete, coherent concept. My coach saw my PW go 155yds with a RANGE BALL l and he couldn’t believe it. (neither could I tbh) Wasn’t trying super hard, not a long-drive jerky swing style; just an effortless, smooth and quick clubhead speed that compresses the cat piss out of every ball. Feels like a damn super-power. And I’d say you’re 100% right on with your point about needing the Dead drill, clamshell, necktie and everything else you’ve done for this to make sense. Just really bizarre I’ve been studying this and then BOOM, you have a 5-video series explaining this exact thing. Thank you again sir, this is the Rosetta Stone of golf.
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
Ya, this is 30+ years boiled into 60 minutes! Definitely a eureka moment for me too! The speed you get with this is truly addicting and as you noted, it's so easy to compress the ball because so much timing has been taking out of the release, it's very easy to hit it solid. "Feels like a damn super-power" - couldn't have said it better myself! Now that you've got that level of speed, start flighting that puppy. 115 yard pw 70' high, that's where the money is made...
January 30, 2024
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Jeremiah
Duly noted, that’s my next goal. Make some dough Thank you again sir!
January 30, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Chuck, What a superb 5 video serie to understand feel vs. real. It gave me so much info, not only for myself but also for my students. Here are a few questions that came to me while watching, probably more to come when working with this: 1. Are all golfers, in the same amount, able to learn by feel or does it remain dependent on what a golfers "natural' way of learning is? 2. This question is related to this second video where both hands work together. Would you agree with this next thought I got: if at the moment of starting the "throwing" of the club by only using the wrists, you throw the club just a little more in the direction of the right shoulder that the swingpath would be a little more inside out and when you throw more in direction of the target line the path would be more square. If this is so would that also be a way to produce different ball flights? Thanks for helping, your brilliant! Marcel
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you Marcel! for #1, there are different "learning styles", at least that's what the "books" will tell you. To me, everyone needs a combination of all things. You need an intellectual understanding. You need to be able to visualize the solution in your mind. And you need to be able to feel it in your body. One avenue is not enough in my experience for learning a movement. In math, sure. But the golf swing requires you to eventually translate everything into feel and that's exactly what the GOATs had going for them - they learned it all by feel first. Today, we try to use technology to short cut the learning process and it can help, but if you don't translate it to feel, it's useless. Technology will tell you what the problem is, but it doesn't tell you how to feel the solution. #2 You can experiment with directing the throw. I did this as well but it felt pretty unnatural. If I want to shape a shot I focus more on the feeling of the club face not the direction of the force I'm applying.
January 30, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks for your answers Chuck, it helps me to develope as an instructor! I need to keep learning even at age 73 Marcel
January 30, 2024
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David
Pure Gold! Your ability to translate to simply concepts is Einstein like. Can't thank you enough!!! Keep it coming!!!!
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
Oh man you have no idea how much that means! Thank you! This project damn near drove me nuts!
January 29, 2024
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Kenneth
This is absolute dynamite information which has made my swing feel effortless. Thank you !
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
Thank god! I have been working so hard on this I was pretty sure I was losing my mind!
January 29, 2024
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Kenneth
Not one bit Chuck. I am a recent member who has had life time troubles of hooks and slices and everything in-between. Following you has changed everything and this is so powerful so I really do thank you
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
You’re very welcome. Your appreciation means a lot.
January 29, 2024

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