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The body movement in the golf swing can be mind bogglingly complex or incredibly simple. Which do you prefer?


As I showed you in the intro video, Tiger never thinks about his body movement.

And it's ironic because Tiger's body movement is kind of the gold standard for the golf swing.

Every golf instructor under the sun has, at one point or another, put their student up next to Tiger's body and say, see what he does?

We need to do it like this.

Ironically, Tiger doesn't care about his body.

He never thinks about his body.

And as I showed you, he's swung this way with his body since he was five, at least since he was five.

So it can't be that complicated.

And the reality is it's not.

It's just understanding the feeling.

And this is the whole point of this video series is that mechanics and understanding the swing through 3D motion capture or high speed video, or force plates.

And all this stuff will only get you so far.

But what's ironic is that all these tour players who we look at their data, they don't think about any of that stuff.

They just do it naturally, which means, again, They're either aliens, or this is a natural, instinctive thing once you understand what it feels like in the swing.

And that's what I've always wanted to understand.

If I could just step in a Tiger's body for one minute and hit a half a dozen balls, I would finally understand what it felt like.

And that's why I went down this journey, because I feel like I now know pretty closely what it feels like to swing like Tiger Woods, especially in 2000.

But you'll see his movements have really never changed, not since he was five.

His body movement today is the same as it was 40 years ago.

The core of his golf swing is the same.

And what we're going to talk about now, his hips, the core and his pressure shift is really simple, but it's not what you think.

And that's the whole trick.

As I've shown with clips of Tiger and other golfers, feeling real, even for the greatest players of all time, it's never the same.

They feel a lot of times that they're doing one thing and they're doing the exact opposite in their swing.

And when it comes to the hip movement and rotation in the swing, I think that's exactly the same case.

What it feels like to move your body like Tiger is way simpler than people think it is.

What it really is, is lateral movement.

I don't believe that Tiger's ever really trying to turn his hips, or his core, or his shoulders, or his legs, or anything else in the golf swing.

What I believe is happening, and what I can show you, is that it's more lateral movement that looks or gets turned into rotational force, but he's not trying to rotate.

And this was another big eye-opener for me as I started trying to match up my body patterns to what Tiger was doing, get my body to do the same thing.

It wasn't until I stopped trying to turn that my hips started turning, if that makes any sense.

So, what started happening is that I started looking at Tiger's swing, especially the 2000 swing that I'll put on the screen here, and you look at his hips and his legs are barely moving.

In the backswing, his right leg barely straightens, it barely rotates, there's hardly anything happening in his lower body whatsoever.

All you can see in the downswing is a very obvious lateral shift back to the left, but there's not any obvious signs of rotation.

Now, of course, it looks like his hips are turning, but as you look at him from down the line, his hips are barely open.

You can barely see that left butt cheek.

You can see it, but it's not like it's ripped wide open like you can often see.

The reality is, in order to move this way, he's not trying to rotate.

He's moving laterally, and the simplest way to understand this is to feel it.

So, watch what happens.

If we go back to having our, let's just do lead arm only for a moment.

I feel it's a little bit easier to feel this at first without the trail arm.

If you go to the top, and what I want you to do first is make a concerted effort to shift laterally to the right, your whole body.

Your head, everything, let it sway off the ball.

I'm going to show you that this swaying thing is not what you think it is, but what it feels is wildly different than what it actually is.

So, what I actually feel in the swing is that my head and hips shift immediately.

And yes, as you saw in the four pressure shifts video, when I'm doing this dynamically at speed, I push off the left foot to give me some momentum.

I actually want a fair bit of movement laterally this way in my swing.

Now, what it feels like is this.

And what it looks like is this.

Feeling real.

Once I begin to shift laterally and start to move up to the top, I actually naturally start to recenter.

My pressure starts to move back this way.

And it's because the club is also going back this way, my head also starts to move this way.

None of these things am I trying to do.

I'm feeling like I'm trying to make a big lateral move this way.

And then, on the way down, the only thing I'm feeling is a lateral move this way.

And that is something where, to me, it feels very subtle.

I'm not trying to push hard off of this foot.

That will cause you to start rotating too early, get your hands and club getting thrown out toward the ball too soon in the wrong way.

And then, you'd be the old over-the-top move.

But if you feel just lateral and lateral, watch what happens.

So, I'm going to literally do this.

I'm going to shift laterally, and then I'm going to shift laterally.

And this is all I'm going to physically try and do.

Watch what happens to my hips.

Lateral.

Well, what the hell?

My hips are wide open.

How'd they get over here?

I did not try and turn them.

But they turned.

This is, again, a feel versus real thing.

I'm literally feeling nothing but this.

Lateral back.

Lateral through.

But once my pressure gets onto my lead foot, and I unweight this trail foot, like I talked about in the last video, where we're talking about how the hips turn in the swing, as soon as this foot becomes unweighted, well, this just naturally pivots really fast.

It's relaxed.

I'm not trying to push my hips back.

I'm not trying to twist my hips.

I'm not trying to turn my core.

I'm unweighting this foot, and my hips turn.

And as soon as you feel that, and once the club pulls you all the way around, of course your hips are going to be wide open.

But never once did I try and turn my hips.

When you listen to Tiger Woods talk about how his body moves, or his lower body, what does he say about it?

He never once says, I'm going to try and turn my hips really fast.

He says, I'm looking for stability.

That's what he tries to feel in his lower body.

Now think about that.

Tiger's hips move, you know, we know, move deeper.

They get the hips really open.

You can see both butt cheeks.

And yet he says he's trying to use them for stability.

Wait a second.

That doesn't make any sense.

He must be trying to turn his hips if they get that open.

I thought that for a long time as well, until I started trying to get myself to do it.

And I realized, no matter how hard I turn my hips, I'll never get them that open.

It doesn't work like that.

Again, it's a feel versus real thing.

So in order to feel stable in the swing, so that you have a stable platform to launch this club from the top to begin to accelerate, just like the long drive guys, you go ask a long drive guy how he hits a 400-yard drive.

It ain't holding the lag as long as he can.

It's accelerating that puppy as hard as he can, as soon as he can.

In order to feel that, you would want a really stable lower body.

You don't want your body sliding all over the place or twisting around.

It's going to make it harder to square the face.

So the best way that I found to think about this is the way Sam Snead talked about it.

Sam Snead talked about his weight transfer as heel to heel.

Now, We know that that's not 100% accurate in terms of what actually happens because of all the force plate data we have.

We know that the pressure moves in a very different way.

But the feeling of that is a wonderful way to feel stability and start feeling club face control.

Because what happens for most golfers when they add a ton of rotation, trying to turn their hips, their shoulders, whatever it is they're trying to turn, the club gets hucked out toward the ball.

Their hands move out in this direction.

The club's out of control.

Their body is wildly spinning and rotating through, And it's very hard to consistently make good contact and square that face when we're moving very rotationally.

The old school guys thought, I'm going to move lateral.

Remember Curtis Strange?

And lateral.

And remember the old 70s leg drive, right?

Remember Caddyshack, Danny Noonan getting this big lateral C, or reverse C.

That was all lateral drive.

That didn't change with Tiger Woods.

He grew up in that same era.

He has the same motion.

That lateral drive, we don't have to do it that aggressive, of course.

But the feeling is the same.

Feel heel to heel instead of this and this.

So as you go to the top of your swing, feel like your pressure shifts to your right or your trail heel, and then to your left heel or your lead heel, and let the club do its thing.

Now look how wide open my hips are.

I didn't try to turn my hips again, but I'm just going heel to heel.

And now my hips can turn really fast in response to how this club is working through, and I'm throwing it from the top.

So now you're starting to feel, instead of rotating back and rotating back, what you're trying to feel in your swing is a lateral throw this way, with a lateral shift that way in the backswing, and a lateral shift this way in the downswing.

So now my golf swing doesn't feel like this.

My golf swing feels, and I want to show you from down the line the exact same thing.

I feel like my left, my hands go straight down the line, and you'll see that takes the club straight down the line, and then I just try to flatten off my left wrist at the top, and again I've shifted laterally to my trail heel, and now I'm just throwing the club straight at the camera and shifting laterally.

And then as I release it, we'll talk more about that in a little bit, but the whole swing feels lateral straight line force this way, straight line force this way, straight with my hands, throwing straight with my hands.

But I'm turning.

It doesn't look that way.

It looks like I'm probably turning and turning, but I'm literally trying to feel the opposite.

I'm trying to feel straight back, straight through.

And that is what's going to give you the feeling, finally, Of being able to not fight this club face.

Because you're not coming from way inside or way over the top and rotating really quickly, because the harder you rotate through, as you remember from the How to Turn Your Hips video, I talked about how as this trail shoulder is working down, you can keep the club tracing down the target line forever.

The long as this right shoulder is trail shoulder is working this way.

But now as soon as my trail shoulder goes this way, now I've got the club wanting to close on me and my shoulders rotating really fast, making the path very tight.

It's a very tight arc.

In an ideal world, I would want that club to be traveling down a straight line as long as humanly possible.

And this feeling of going lateral back, lateral through is exactly what gives you that.

Don't be afraid of moving off the wall.

Now, of course, if you're doing this, that's not ideal.

When I'm showing you, you've got to look at yourself on video and get a feel for how much shift is this.

But don't be afraid to move over here because, again, even if your head's moving a couple inches off the ball or feels that way, You're going to start to naturally fall back this way if you've worked on what I talked about in those pressure shift videos.

So heel to heel is a great way to think about it.

It'll keep you from starting, you know, if you goat hump or early extend or whatever you want to call it, that's pushing off your hip and your heel.

And that's typically because you're trying to rotate your hips.

But if I'm just moving laterally, well, how am I going to goat hump?

If I just move laterally, note that my left hip gets deeper in the downswing, But I'm not trying to move it deeper or do any of these goofy wall drills, or even my old clamshell drill.

Well, this stuff now begins to happen naturally without me thinking about it.

And isn't that the whole point of the golf swing?

Isn't that how Tiger Woods learned how to do this at five years old?

Why all these great golfers, Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan, Jack Nicklaus, they dug it out of the dirt.

They didn't have to work through swing mechanics and force plates and 3D motion stuff.

They felt their swings and they had the right picture that gave them the right feeling.

Now, some of you out there may be saying, wait a second, I've heard Tiger Woods say he pushes really hard off his right big toe or his trail foot or whatever, his trail leg.

And he also says that he does do that when he needs to step on one, but it puts more stress on his back, which is exactly what I said in the How Your Hips Turn video.

You can absolutely speed all of this stuff up by trying to push really hard off of this foot, but you start putting more compressive forces on your spine.

So here's what Tiger said about that in his own words.

But I really try and feel like I really use this back leg to really push and start clearing and start jumping and getting out of the way.

That's how I try and feel it.

The reason why I don't do it that often is it puts a little stress on my back and puts stress on my knee, and I've had multiple operations on them.

So I bring that every now and again.

So understand you can absolutely create more force.

It doesn't have to be this old school Sam Snead rocking back and forth, although I love this feeling, because it gives you a natural innate sense of rhythm and tempo and timing.

If I'm moving from heel to heel, then it's kind of hard for me to do this really erratically.

And if I understand I'm not trying to power the swing with my arms, I'm just trying to start to cast the club a little bit with my wrists, well, all of this stuff is pretty relaxed.

So now if I just go heel to heel and let my hands work, I start to have a pretty fluid, really effortless golf swing.

I'm not trying to work hard at all.

I'm just shifting to the right, shifting to the left.

I got a golf swing.

I can play golf like this and generate a crap ton of speed, and I don't have to do anything else special with it.

I don't have to push hard off of it.

I don't even have to try and generate separation.

You've no doubt if you're on Instagram or some other social media these days, you see these people going up to the top and say, oh, you need separation.

Do this.

Do this.

Twist your hips before you move your shoulders.

You don't need to do that.

You don't need separation.

Take a look again at Tiger's Swing in 2000 and tell me how much separation you see at the top of the swing.

Hardly any.

He's not trying to do any of that stuff.

Now that separation will happen dynamically and naturally as you start getting used to this, the more relaxed you stay.

But that's the last thing on earth you should ever try and do.

It happens so freaking fast, Your brain literally can't process a thought and transmit it, and get your body to do it before you've even made contact.

Because the whole downswing happens in less time than it takes for your brain to react to the stimulus.

So don't try to get all this crazy separation or twisting your spine or any of that stuff.

Feel some rhythm and some tempo and some speed.

And then because you're moving what's more lateral instead of rotational, You're going to have control because you're not trying to time this clubface that's ripping through the hitting area.

Feel lateral, a little throw, lateral, unweighting, my hips turn.

I'm balanced, relaxed, and perfectly poised to hit a really, really solid golf shot over and over again.

In a nutshell, that's the entire golf swing.

In my mind now, it's as complicated as it gets.

I widen the angles, I move laterally, heel to heel, and that's it.

I don't really think about anything else.

That's pretty simple, right?

It's a feel.

And if I do these feels correctly, I have a great golf swing that looks almost exactly like what Tiger Woods looked like in 2000.

I hit the ball incredibly well with no effort.

I make it look easy and it feels easy.

And it feels freaking incredible, to be honest, because I'm able to pure the ball with so little effort.

And I can finally feel what my hands should feel like in the swing that the Greats felt in their swing.

So when you think about it, this is really as complicated as a golf swing needs to get.

If you make it any more complicated than this, eh, good luck.

I've spent a lot of time, three quarters of my life, studying how to hit a ball with a stick.

And I can tell you that the closer I get to a proper goat-like golf swing, the simpler it gets in my mind, the easier it gets in my mind, the less things I'm trying to do, the less things I find important in the swing.

And this is as simple as I can make it.

But now, let's put it into practical applique.

Let's start hitting balls and so you can feel what it feels like right away to start hitting the ball very straight, very consistently, very solid in the center of the face with my wide glide wide drill.

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Edward
Good day. I shot an 85 at Langdon Farms in Oregon and my RTS swing was on! My question is I do the spine tilt and rotate around my spine as trained. My right hip area hurts now, since evolving to the RTS the past month I have had gradual pain there. I played 3 days in a row on this trip and today its a good amount of pain. Could I be doing something wrong in my swing? Thank you
September 21, 2024
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Chuck
Definitely doing something you dont realize. There should be absolutely no hip pain
September 22, 2024
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Edward
Ok, ill get a swing review scheduled. Tks!
September 22, 2024
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Ryan
I'v always moved laterally (maybe too much) and I always leave the club face open. I think people also call it "sliding." What would help getting the club face to square?
July 2, 2024
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Chuck
Not sliding! The clubface will never want to release if you keep moving laterally. The video coming out next week will help you understand this in detail.
July 2, 2024
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Mark
listening to Gary Player who i was with yesterday amazingly at wentworth near London and he says Ben Hogan was the GOAT by a mile and he said that Ben rotated body from the top and arms dropped keeping same angle as at the top and then he extended through and that the abs are by far stronger than the arms . Isnt this the opposite to your arms swing early release from top driving the body through . This dichotomy has always confused me and so many teachers either teach body first or arms first and never agree ? be interested to hear your elaborate specific answer please.
June 16, 2024
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Chuck
No not the opposite at all, the core must engage in a throw or it's a very weak throw. But how they engage is the key and that's what I'm covering in my next video
June 16, 2024
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Daniel Ryan
Figuring out that you are supposed to post up more from your heel and not from the ball of my foot was a big breakthrough for me. I never hear golf instructors mention this. I just noticed it from seeing them with the toe of their shoe off the ground.
June 3, 2024
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Daniel Ryan
My hands are behind my trail leg when the club is parallel to the ground in the down swing not in front of my trail leg like they should be for GDP. What can I do to get my hands where they should be? Or is this okay if I'm widening correctly?
June 3, 2024
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Chuck
I would need to see what’s happening, but generally this happens either when the arms get too deep in the backswing, and when you combine this with too much upper body rotation in the downswing, the arms never have a chance to get back in front
June 3, 2024
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Daniel Ryan
I noticed your hands were behind your leg too in the Wide Glide Wide video. Were you just exaggerating the movement?
June 3, 2024
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Chuck
Yes exactly
June 3, 2024
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Brian
You may have answered this somewhere on this site but I can't find it. Do you still setup with your weight over your ankles for Tigers swing or do you start more on the balls of the feet?
May 7, 2024
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Chuck
Balance is balance and that's what you're trying to find is a centered setup that allows you to move freely. Middle of the foot to the center of the ankle is where you will find that.
May 8, 2024
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Michael
ould you use this method in the sand bunker too//
April 22, 2024
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Chuck
the overall movement is similar, sure.
April 23, 2024
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Jinah
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this!!!! Thank you!
March 20, 2024
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Chuck
You're very welcome!
March 20, 2024
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Earl
How would I hit a draw and fade?
March 6, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Earl, try the search feature at the top of the page.
March 7, 2024
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Clayton (Certified RST Instructor)
I can't explain how great yet heart broken I was to have such a difficult time feeling comfortable in my last tournament and then experiencing this just now. My weight shift is so much more passive and calm. I was very violent before thinking that I was creating something "Athletic". It was only causing me my hip issues and making me inconsistent. My Dead drill feels much more solid now. Thank you so much Chuck!!
February 28, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, I've been there too thinking I needed to create a ton of ground force, etc. Now it all happens easily and truly automatically. I've shifted to the point that I almost try and limit my lower body movement now because I'm able to get back to the left side naturally without trying once I got my hands working correctly.
February 28, 2024
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Clayton (Certified RST Instructor)
Are there ways for certified instructors to get swing reviews from you that aren't as costly as the membership price? Anthony Hopkins does great I'm just curious
February 28, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Clayton unfortunately i have less than zero time available to offer discounts on my time. Just too busy for 20 years now
February 28, 2024
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Dave
This is a really great way to feel how to swing a club efficiently, and I believe efficiency is at the heart of Tiger's best swings over the years. This way to begin the downswing seems to instantly put the club on plane for me, which has been a very thorny problem for me the last few years. One question: There are people who argue that the lateral shift forward should begin before the top of the backswing, maybe even as early as lead arm parallel in the backswing. You don't seem to do that. Wondering what your thoughts are on timing the start of the forward shift relative to where the arms and club are in the swing. One other thing, do you feel any delay in starting the arm/wrist/hand movement coming down while beginning the shift forward or is it all happening in sync? Thanks!
February 25, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Dave, watch the 4 pressure shifts video under GOAT Theory
February 25, 2024
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Jason
Chuck, great videos! Quick question, at 9:10 (or so), this seems different than your "3 Simple Moves for a Perfect Backswing in Golf" method. I like this thought better as it's less to think about. Am I right to assume you're saying that this can be a substitute for that other video as it pertains to the takeaway?
February 24, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Jason, yes, this can be a simplified version to accomplish the same mechanics through feel without having so many thoughts.
February 25, 2024
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Andrew
Mind blown with the heal to heal weight shift. So simple, thank you.
February 21, 2024
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Clayton (Certified RST Instructor)
Isn't it great to finally feel how stable and simple correct lower body movement is?! I wished I could've known this when I was competing regularly in highschool. I was so fixated over the ball and wouldn't really get into my back leg. I was also shorter off the tee than most but that's changing these days with this simple FEEL!!!
February 28, 2024
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Stefan
Commented a lot on here, so sorry for that, but I’ve gone from hitting it off the heel to off the toe for my miss with this swing change. Is there anything specific that would be causing that?
February 13, 2024
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Chuck
You are bouncing around like a pinball lol. I need to see what’s really happening
February 13, 2024
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James
Hey, this is great! The only thing that appears to be giving me an issue is moving back to the ball. What should I feel or do to ensure I get back and don't hit fat shot?
February 8, 2024
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Chuck
check out the 4 pressure shifts video under GOAT Theory
February 8, 2024
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Mike
Hey Chuck, The questions I have are, 1- How does your clubhead speed with the new swing compare with your old swing? 2- How about your consistency? 3- What about ballflight? Do you still hit a baby draw or does the new swing promote more of a fade? Can you work the ball both ways easily? Lastly, I want to say that this is extremely exciting from my 68 year old perspective, as it promotes the possibility of hitting the ball better for a longer time frame than I thought I had left. Thanks for all your efforts to help us amateurs, Mike Belcher
February 8, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Mike, nothing has really changed for me to in terms of the questions you asked. My driver speed is still around 123 mph and I really don't work the ball anymore unless I have to. The biggest change for me personally would be even less stress on my body than ever before and I focus much more on the feel of my hands for speed and control than before. This gives me a better sense of feel, but these things are very subtle. For most students, the biggest difference is they can immediately produce speed they didn't think possible has been what the comments and in person lessons have shown.
February 8, 2024
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Tassos
Chuck – I have just started to experiment with the GOAT code with positive results. This is the first time that I am able to generate tremendous speed with minimal effort, and it is truly amazing that the basic concept is diametrically opposite from what is taught during traditional gold instruction. You have done an amazing job explaining it! I still have a fair amount of work to do to make sure that my timing/flow is right. I realize that a big part of what you are teaching has to do with “feel” and I am gradually getting the “feeling” you describe. However, I have a few questions about mechanics: 1) Do you shift your weight to your left foot a split second before you throw (cast) the club, or does your weight shift happen as you “follow” the club to the left? 2) I have noticed that I should not turn my shoulders and wait for the club to turn me. If I turn my shoulders too early, I swing over the top and hit the ground. On the other hand, if I wait too long and the cub is too far ahead of me, I miss the ground and top it. Is this a correct observation? In general, I believe it would be extremely helpful (and unique within the Golf world), if you can “revise” the C4 program by using the GOAT code as the new foundation.
February 8, 2024
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Chuck
Hi there Tassos. The shift is happening before the throw, watch the 4 pressure shifts video to get a sense for this. Generally, when you hit the ground early, you haven't shifted enough laterally. And yes, if you turn the shoulders early, this will lead to exactly what you said. Lastly, I've been thinking about how to integrate C4 and the GOAT Code and would appreciate your thoughts as to how you would like to see this done
February 8, 2024
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Tassos
Thank you, Chuck! Here is my 2 cents: Many guys here have said that The GOAT Code fits in well with C4 and the Axiom. These are people who have already used your program, so what they’re really saying is that they can build on what they have already learned, and further improve/power their swing by using the GOAT code. The real question though is the following: Knowing what you have uncovered now with the GOAT code, if you were to take someone who has not gone through your program before, would you teach it the same way? I believe the answer is no. What is unique about the GOAT code is that: 1) you can generate more power with less effort, and 2) the body moves automatically without you having to think about it (for an amateur like me, this means having less swing thoughts, and being more relaxed). Several aspects of the GOAT code are also very different from the legacy golf instruction (e.g., focus on using your hands/wrists instead of the using your body, move laterally versus rotating, etc). Therefore, parts of the C4/Axiom content may still be relevant, but parts of it will not be, and that’s OK. As you said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. My advice is to think about the GOAT code de novo, instead of trying to fit it into the existing program/content. For example, I have just started experimenting with it, but I still have a lot of work to do before I can use it consistently. I understand the concept and have seen it work, but my timing and sequence are not always right. Are there any tips (either related to mechanics or feeling) that I can use to get it right? Some of these tips may be similar to what’s mentioned in C4, but some of them may be different. Also, I believe that the overall instruction will be much simpler if you use the GOAT code as the foundation compared to what is currently in C4. I realize that this is work in progress, so I am not sure if you have identified all the tricks yet. I believe you have managed to de-code something unique, and you have the talent to communicate concepts extremely well. You can use it to build a short, simple, and concise course that will be more powerful than anything else out there. I have more thoughts, but I will stop here before this turns into a 3 page essay!!
February 8, 2024
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Chuck
You and I are 1000% on the same page. I want to put together something based solely on the GOAT code for the exact reasons you mentioned. It is truly just simpler. I am planning to teach my wife to golf using this because it's the only way to get her to hit the ball really well, really fast without putting her through all the brain damage most of us have gone through in one way or another learning to hit a ball with a stick!
February 9, 2024
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Tassos
Thanks Sounds great Chuck! looking forward to seeing more videos. Congrats again for your research, effective communication, and intellectual curiosity to keep improving the program!
February 9, 2024
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Asle
In the feel of lateral motion to the R and then to to L.- is the Axiom still a part of this?
February 1, 2024
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Chuck
Yes, all the same thing really. The AXIOM is more explicit in terms of where the pressure really goes, The GOAT Code is my interpretation of what it FEELS like to make those movements in the speed in which the swing actually happens and how fast our brain can process the information. The old "feel vs. real" analogy.
February 1, 2024
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James
Music to my ears! Several times in my life I would focus on just lateral movement and I'd hit the ball well for a few rounds. But after a while I would tell myself "this can't be right" "it won't last, I better focus on something else before I ruin my swing". This allows me to focus on and easily shift my weight, which is always my biggest problem. When I played baseball, whether hitting or playing shortstop I never thought about rotating... Ya man! Thanks for your hard work Chuck!
February 1, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome! Yes, I've had experiences like that myself. We "have to turn" right? Well, it appears that things will take care of themselves if we have the right feeling! To quote my favorite philosopher, Alan Watts, "You've got to let get and let it happen, because if you don't you're going to be all clutched up. You're going to be constantly trying to do what can happen healthily only if you don't try. But we have a strange anxiety in us that if we don't interfere it won't happen. Now that's the root of an enormous amount of trouble."
February 1, 2024
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Joe
Love all your teaching and this latest information is Awesome!! Here is my conundrum...I am a lefthanded golfer but right side dominant. In fact I only have 2 fingers from my left hand on the club with my finger next to the pinkie finger actually sitting on top of my right hand. This has forced me to really pull thru on my swing. I have a very flat backswing and my distance is below average. My question is...what should I focus on with this move and do I need to get that other finger on the club? Thank you for all the help Chuck!!
January 30, 2024
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Clayton (Certified RST Instructor)
One thing that helped me get into a better position in the back swing was learning my weight shift while keeping my hips stable with REF training in the backswing. You can check the easy backswing videos in 5 min to the perfect backswing and then keep referring back to the GOAT code videos to get the feel poritons added to the others.
February 28, 2024
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Joe
And FYI....when I have gone to take lessons in the past coaches tend to not want to change much because I am straight and a 3 handicap. I really think I could be a plus if I can add a little distance. Thoughts?
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Joe! There are two options really. You work on being able to apply some wrist action with the trail hand or you have to rotate your body to propel the lead arm to move faster. You could also work on lag to have a strong angle to release but this introduces more timing and tends to steepen the AoA unless you create a lot of sidebend or secondary tilt
January 30, 2024
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Joe
Thank you....do you think I need to get that other finger on the club or is that not important?
January 31, 2024
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Chuck
What you are describing sounds like an overlap grip which will work fine.
January 31, 2024
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Joe
Thank you very much!!!
January 31, 2024
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Greg
Wait... WHAT?!! Chuck, when you change your company from Rotary Swing to Lateral Swing, let me know. I do branding, especially for golf companies. So... I have absolutely had this exact feel in some practice and warmup sessions, and it's unbelievable. The minimum effort with the longest, straightest and highest shots I've ever hit. (Normally instead of striking the match, I shove it half a foot into the ground.) So I can attest to the fact that this feel is an absolute revelation. I'm so glad that you've put this together, because it's the real deal. HOWEVER, I haven't really been able to replicate it consistently on the course, with the exception of a few sublime shots that are forever burned into my memory. I assume the issue is that tension creeps in and the pressure shifts are also way late. So I end up trying to change things technically, which can have mixed results. How do you take this feel to the course? What do we focus on most? I've always been pretty technical, so all of your teaching for the past 10 years has been what I've followed. With this lateral feel-oriented approach, what stays and what goes from Dead Drill, Axiom, etc? Or do we just burn them all and focus on check points in video while working on this feel?
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
I could use all the branding help I can get! The feel needs to be engrained and that will take everyone a different amount of time. The biggest hurdle for me was "turning off" my body. When I make a mistake and hit a bad shot it's because I tried to power it too much with my body. So, I focus on keeping my body relaxed and just focus on my hands and it translates over immediately. Everyone will be different there. You may have to focus on something different if that's not your "mistake". But in general, I think if you focus just on what I have put here, that's all you need. The mechanics of the AXIOM and DEAD Drill still happen, it's just they happen in response to the throw instead of being the driving force. BTW, is lateralswing.com taken? lol!
January 30, 2024
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Greg
Actually, it is available. Better jump on it... (Unfortunately, goatswing.com is taken.) You had a video a while ago telling us to build up and see how little effort we can put in while maximizing distance. It's shocking just how far, high and straight you can hit it when you stop "efforting" and let the club do its thing. (Definitely a challenge for me to let go.) This new series is definitely poised to exploit that.
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
Haha well rotaryswing will have to do I guess! Been good to me for the past 19 years, whats a few more? Let me know how this translates to the course for you. This will help me understand what future content I need to produce.
January 30, 2024
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Greg
Oh, one thing I did want to ask about... in the series, you didn't really talk about the squat that Tiger is so famous for. I know that when I had that good feel, I wasn't intentionally squatting, but in general it seems to generate more power and create room. How does it figure in with the feel you're talking about?
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
It happens so fast that you shouldn’t try and do it. As you load up and become more skilled with the throw alit can happen naturally. Fwiw Nicklaus’ head went up in the backswing and then up further still on the downswing!
January 30, 2024
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David
Way to break down the swing and deliver an absolutely simple approach to what is considered the hardest game in the world! This is PURE GOLD.....PLEASE keep it coming! I can't believe the understanding you have to digest the information of the GOATS swings and then turn around and teach that information in simple terms to us mere amateurs simply trying to improve. MOST AMAZING! Thank you for what you do!!!! YOU'RE A GENIUS!!!!!
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
Wow I dont have words. You guys are makinf me emotional!
January 29, 2024
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Kenneth
mind-blowing. Love the simplicity of it all and excited to get to the range.
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
Thank you so much! I am so glad it is being so well received. I was nervous!
January 29, 2024
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Kenneth
I am positive everyone needs to see this and will be sharing the information to join your site to everyone. Where are you based Chuck ? 2 reasons 1 my fiancee thinks the view behind you is amazing and 2 I would love a lesson from you and will be visiting American this year from Scotland
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
Very kind thank you! I live near Telluride, CO and that is where I teach from my home.
January 29, 2024

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