How to Shallow Your Hands During Transition

Do your hands go straight out toward the golf ball and don't shallow out during the transition in your golf swing? Here's why and how to fix it!

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Yes, can you hear me?

I can hear you great.

All right.

So what's going on?

The angle, which angle are you referring So like on my lead hip, it was coming out toward the ball almost as if I was standing up and this right hip was stationary.

So when we worked on getting this right hip back, Okay.

Gotcha.

So you see, as far as the angle goes, what you're trying to do is more or less maintain the belt line that you have it addressed.

So, you know, if, if I'm hinged forward here, if this is roughly my hip angle, because of how much I'm hinged forward, as I go back, that's going to stay roughly about the same.

What you're mentioning is a lot of people kind of do this.

And that's typically your arms kind of taking over a little bit and pulling you out of your posture.

And that's just indicative that your brain is saying, well, I got to really fire my arms hard.

And then your hips don't ever get a chance to work right in the first place.

So really, if your goal is to try and.

Use your big muscles to hit the ball and swing the club so that you're not just relying on your arms and hands.

Because it feels like a lot of work and it's harder to control.

You really got to make sure that this angle is roughly maintained.

And then as you start down and get ready to push that left hip back, this angle actually can increase a little bit.

And that'll really help you steepen your angle with your body, your spine angle, and helps bring the club back out on top of the plane.

What most people do with what you're talking about, if you get a little flat and your arms pull you out of your posture a little bit, you get a little flat, and then you're going to get a little bit stuck underneath or swing really over the top.

But to prevent that is more or less just keeping this angle, increasing it, I call it kind of tipping a little bit so that you kind of get your hips further back behind you.

And then as you're pushing back, then it's going to change.

But does that answer your question?

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, let's let's hit a couple I'd love to see where we're at Whenever you're ready Good, let's do one more.

Okay, can you do just like a swing face Okay, perfect.

Swing looks really good.

It looks like you're losing the tush line just a little bit, which we'll talk about.

Let me pull it up here.

Back swing looked, you know, as far as your hips and stuff looked really good.

Okay.

Let me share my screen.

Okay.

And then you get.

A ton of depth in the backswing with the right hand, for sure.

Oh yeah, I mean, it's going back really deep, that's great, but what, what, what's going on here?

Watch, so if you use this, uh, like this, you know, the screen back here in the background and watch how your hips go back.

So you've moved like one, you know, you kind of move back like a, you know, inch or two, and you maintain that.

And then as you start down, you'll see that the club gets a little bit steep.

Ideally, your hands would not be this far out in front of your chest.

And I'm gonna, I'm gonna walk through all this stuff in a second.

But this what's happening is you're losing your posture a little bit, Because your arms are outrunning everything.

So then, you know, you stand up.

So, and this is where, you know, you look like you lose your posture just a little bit during this phase.

You can see, I'm going to put my mouse cursor right there.

So now you've lost it and your spine angle has gotten more upright, right?

So this starts leading it.

This can really quickly lead into blocks and hooks really quick.

And so I'm going to explain why there's, I mean, otherwise did.

Your swing looks beautiful, but this is going to lead to some, some ball striking issues.

So let's just take a quick look.

Face on.

Yeah, so stance width is just a hair wide.

Not that you can't play from there, but it's going to.

Typically, you're either going to not get enough weight over to the left side in the downswing, or you're going to have to have a pretty big slide.

You make a really good move there.

That's pretty solid.

But the biggest issue, really, so many great things going on here, is just the arms firing too soon.

And Chuck, like I said, I don't know if you remember or not, but I've been in Craig's group now for a year in July.

Okay.

Okay, okay.

Nothing I can do.

I just can't seem to figure out what in the world is causing me to not let those arms just drop and allow the legs to work, you know?

Yep.

Have you filmed your swing working on this stuff with like a driver or a three -wood?

Oh, yes.

And you still find the same thing happening?

Yes.

Okay.

All right, cool.

Let's talk about what's causing that.

So in your swing, you rotate really well.

You get your hips really well.

Everything looks really great.

And then your arms start to go up, right?

And so as you start to elevate your arms quite a bit, totally normal.

It looks great.

There's nothing wrong with it.

But as your arms start getting up on a steeper plane, then you need shallowing moves in order for that club.

to get back down to the ball from up here, right?

Now, if you were down here, you wouldn't need any shallowing moves, right?

Your swing's already really shallow.

Here your swing's really steep.

You're somewhere in between.

And that's the trick of figuring out where your hands need to be and what moves you need to put in your swing to get the swing to all gel.

So what you're doing is you go to the top.

You know, this is really nice.

And then the arms start to fire a little bit soon.

And that's impossible for them to shallow out because you've started moving them this way, right?

So what your body does, once you get this way a little bit, where your hands are moving back out here, obviously, one, that's going to pull you out of your posture a little bit.

But then also because that's a steeping move, right?

You're, you know, hacking down with your arms a little bit.

And that's a big exaggeration.

Your swing's not nearly that bad.

But as you do that, you're going to start to stand up to keep the club.

From digging into the turf because your arms are steep.

They're going down on a much steeper path than what they went back on, right?

So it's really more of a.

It's a timing thing and a sequencing thing that's causing you to not be able to shallow out.

So in order for your club to your hands to do this, instead of this, you have to kind of look at it holistically.

Okay, so one if my arms fire at all from the top, If I pull down hard with my left arm or push with my right shoulder, any of that stuff can move the hands out toward the target line, out toward the ball.

And both of those are no bueno, especially if they happen, which is what's typical, ahead of your hips starting to get out of the way, right?

If your hips start to get out of the way first, then your hands naturally kind of drop down in.

But if they don't and your arms get just the tiny, you know, a tenth of a second, a split second head start, There's no shallowing out that's going to happen.

In fact, what your body's going to do, you know, from there to there is only two tenths of a second anyway, right?

So there's just not a lot of time for a lot of stuff to happen.

So once you start this little tiny tug from the top, then your body, your proprioception, your subconscious starts saying, okay, well, what do we need to do to hit the ball?

Because that's my top priority.

So shallowing out doesn't, it's not even on the radar anymore, right?

So really what it comes down to is two things working synergistically.

One, getting your hands to not fire from the top will automatically help them shallow out with number two, which is getting your hips to go a little bit sooner, right?

And so one of the things I've been doing, I've been talking about a little bit here and there, I've been researching for the past seven months is having your hands high versus having your hands low in the backswing, okay?

I don't know if you've followed any of that stuff.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, so one of the things that when you think about it as a big, do you do?

You have time this morning?

Because I can, absolutely okay.

So I want to explain some stuff to you.

That may be a little bit outside of the scope of the lesson, but it'll kind of help you think of it a big picture thing, right?

So, if you think of your golf swing entirely as as shallowing moves and steepening moves, okay, then the golf swing starts to make a lot of sense.

Because we've seen, you know, there's 40 million golfers in the U .

s with 40 million different golf swings with you know 100 different variables each, right?

So how do you get everybody to kind of make their swing work?

Well, it's pretty hard, right?

That's why golfers haven't really gotten any better.

So when you think about it, most golfers don't really understand what's going on in their swing.

Your swing, as you start elevating your arms, you've added a steepening move.

Totally fine.

It gives you a lot of leverage, but then you need to get those commensurate compensatory sallowing moves to get the club to not come down steep, right?

In my opinion, after the seven months of research and 50 ,000 swings that I've made in that time, I believe that it's much easier to simplify your arm movement in the swing.

So that the club does what it needs to do without having to try and compensate for it, right?

So having high hands, in my personal experience, gave me about three miles an hour average club head speed more with my driver.

I've got more time to accelerate the club.

I'm making bigger movements, right?

My arms are moving more.

They can move faster.

The swing arc is bigger.

And so it's about a couple percent of extra club head speed, right?

But there's so much more complication to all of those moves.

It's not natural for most people.

to shallow out the club from a higher hands position.

You really have to kind of think about your swing, like what do I really need to do to get the desired ball flight and all of those things that I'm trying to do from this position.

I believe that it's going to be much easier if you shallow out your arms a little bit at the top by removing elevation.

Not that you're not going to remove all of it, but you're going to feel like there's no elevation, okay?

And when you think of it that way, when you lift your arms up, And then want to push them out toward the target, like you do a little bit, it's you.

You now have to kind of revamp the entire way that you think about the swing, right?

You've.

You've got to get your hands to go do the exact opposite of what they're doing now, and that's a huge change.

It's a lot easier, in my opinion, to think about getting your hands here and this right arm shallower at the top without elevating it so much.

And then as you feel that instead of getting your body pulling, kind of, you know, pulling your body out of posture and out of position, as your arms go back in there here and you start to shift back in, which you do really well, the hands are naturally going to start to shallow out because they don't have nearly as far to go in the first place.

The biggest trade-off, like I said, is consistency versus overall distance.

You know, you have plenty of club head speed.

So if you gave up, potentially gave up.

You know, a mile an hour, two miles an hour average speed with the driver, but you hit it on the screws way more often.

That, to me, is the, you know, a good trade-off.

And so what I'd like to do, if you're willing to experiment with me a little bit, is let me kind of walk you through.

How to remove some of the elevation, some of the complications, some of the, you know, steepness in the swing.

So that you don't have to try and go from this high hands position to this, you know, this big shallowing out move and see how it feels for you.

Does that make sense?

Absolutely, but you said that I had plenty of club head speed.

My driver speed, I just got fitted a couple months ago.

It was only around 105 miles an hour.

Okay.

So, look, I'll do anything to get better, you know, to get this shallow out, because I know that's what I've got to do to play golf.

I can't keep firing from the top.

They're getting out ahead of the lower body, and I know that.

But, yeah, can you lower it and give me more club head speed, too?

Yeah, so my kind of standard cutoff for club head speed is about 110.

With low hands, high hands, or whatever, you should be at least at 110, especially with all the good stuff that you have going on in your swing and your athleticism and your.

you know, the way you got your body moving, you should be much faster than 105 for sure.

So, so what I'm saying, like you might lose, like my club head speed with low hands average is 119 and it's 122 with high hands.

So it's on a percentage basis is relatively small, right?

But you should still be swinging much faster.

Now the catch is there's always tricks in golf when it comes to producing speed.

One of the biggest ones is that when people are kind of stuck at that level that you're at, the way that they try to produce more speed is by firing their arms sooner and harder from the top.

Right.

And so it's counterproductive, even though you're working harder, but you actually end up just you end up swinging slower than you will when you start letting the swing sequence properly.

And that's kind of the key.

At the end of the day, you know, all this force plate stuff studying that I've been doing.

It's really just about refining the sequence so that it's as effortless and as efficient and safe and fast as humanly possible, right?

And easy to learn because that's really the end of the day.

If you have to work on your swing for six years to get a reasonable swing, that's kind of crazy.

I want to spend some time working on it, get it to where I can go out and play really consistent golf for the rest of my life with the same swing without ever having to change it again.

And that's really what I've been trying to boil it down because With high hands, there's things that you have to do.

With low hands, there's things you have to do.

There's compromises on both.

But I believe at the end of the day, everybody just wants to be able to swing at least 110.

Especially your ability, you should easily be able to swing 110.

And be able to.

And we will get you there.

And just go out and have a simple golf swing and not have to work on this thing all the time.

And the things that.

people do to, you know, when they're working with higher hands, it's just more complexity.

It's not that it's bad or good.

It's just more complexity because you're now trying to blend a rotational movement of your thorax, of your hips with, and your, you know, and your shoulders with a vertical movement of the arms.

Right.

And it's not tons of great players do it.

Right.

I mean, obviously you can play phenomenal golf doing that.

From Bubba Watson to Davis Love and everybody, Colin Montgomery.

You got these guys with mega high hands and they, you know, Colin Montgomery is a great example.

Super high hands, big lateral slide to the right going back and on the way down a big lateral slide.

That's how he chooses to shallow out that club.

That's pretty complex.

He's not a long hitter.

And if you look at the trend, I like to look at stuff like a macro scale.

I always look at like 20 year increments in golf.

So if you look at the last 20 years of golf at the highest levels, one, the swings have become much more compact, much more rotational.

You don't have like the big lateral drive, the massive high hands, the Nicholas Weisskopf, Watson Montgomery stuff.

You don't see that as much, right?

And part of that, I think, is an understanding of just how to.

Biomechanically leverage the body and the ground more efficiently, with tools that didn't exist in the 70s, right?

We didn't, we didn't know how to measure this stuff.

But also, I think there's a there's a trend to be as consistent as humanly possible.

The guys on the PGA Tour now, it's crazy how consistent everybody is.

You know, everybody relatively has a chance to win every week, to some degree or another.

Because they all hit the ball so freaking well, You know, it's not like you have somebody just out there slapping it around anymore and then just making every putt.

Golf is just, it's too high of a level now.

So you look at the Tony Finau's of the world and the John Rahms and Tiger and Rory, and these guys have all gone to much shallower arm positions.

Tiger used to have really high hands and he's gone lower and lower and lower, and then kind of brought it back and he's kind of somewhere in the middle.

I like where his swing is now in terms of taking the stress off his body, right?

Because you look at, again, Steepening and shallowing moves.

You got really high hands and like Colin Montgomery and you have a big lateral drive.

Well, you start creating side bend and then you add rotation to that, which is another shallowing move, and then you've got this torque and side bend.

And so, you know, you look at how Tigers had to adapt his swing to his back to preserve and reduce as much stress as possible.

I think you can look at his swing now and say, man, it's relatively, you know, pretty easy on his back compared to things he's done in the past.

So, long story short, I believe that you're seeing more and more consolidation in terms of what people are doing with their arms and why.

And I've been trying to figure out for years, which is better, which is more ideal, both from how do you get somebody to hit the ball well enough to shoot in the low 70s consistently?

Do it as fast as humanly possible, right?

I don't want to spend 10 years teaching a golfer how to start shooting in the 70s.

It shouldn't be that hard.

you know, it's, it's a mechanics, it's a technique thing.

What's the fastest way to do that?

You know, and to me, when I was like, the more I think about it and the more I study the forces that I'm generating on the force plate, going with shallower hands, the biggest compromise is a tiny bit of top end average speed.

But again, you know, you know, again, my speed's much higher than average, but if the average guy is swinging at 112 and hitting it solid every time, he's going to be stoked.

Right.

Right.

So.

So, and that's really kind of how I started thinking about things.

And it really, it's a longevity thing, right?

You know, if you're firing your arms from the top, there's two issues that are going to come from that.

One, timing becomes more important aspect of your swing, right?

Because you got to go to the range and you got to get this timing of your arms going up and your body going around and all of this stuff working together.

It just takes more maintenance, right?

It's just more work to glue all the stuff together.

And if you do it enough, you'll be able to do it and not think about it, but you'll still be always subject to timing in your swing because the more stuff you have moving in different planes and different directions, the harder it is to glue all this stuff together, right?

So if you think about reducing elevation and you reduce the dependency on firing your arm from the top, you'll start to feel how your body.

Can do stuff just the tiniest bit sooner, right?

You?

You're able to transition to the left a little bit sooner, you're you're able to finish posting up a little bit sooner, and we're talking milliseconds.

But that makes a huge difference in terms of transferring energy, you know, into the club from the ball or from the ground, from your feet.

And also not relying on your hands and arms for speed.

So it starts to get shift.

You from, you know, putting a lot of effort into it from your arms and hands, to feeling effortless and swinging the pendulum the other way.

And I think that, you know, in the end, you'll find that you'll, you'll get the big payoff without having to work so hard at it.

So long story short, what I want you to feel at first is a couple things.

We're going to do a couple things to exaggerate some movements so that you can see a big change in terms of shallowing out the club.

Getting your body to work, because you know your body, your brain's got to adapt to these things and start getting.

It's like, Oh wow, if my arms are here and now they're here, that's a big change, okay, right?

So we're going to do a couple things to experiment and help you feel some of these things.

And then as you start to get comfortable with it, we'll start stacking some stuff in there.

So what I want you to, what's that?

I said, Absolutely, yep, okay.

So what I want you to do first to get this feeling is I'm going to have you kind of keep your right upper bicep and your right peC kind of touching each other throughout the whole backswing, okay?

So you'll feel how your arm's going to want to slide up a lot.

This is elevation, and we're going to reduce that to make this swing simpler.

So you're going to feel that this stuff is kind of connected.

You're going to go right arm only, and you're going to go up to the top, just like your normal move with your hips, because that stuff's all great.

And now, because you don't have the left arm on the club for a second, To pull it out this way, you'll feel how the right arm naturally wants to do this and that's going to get you that hand drop.

Now.

Of course, there's all kinds of variables with this stuff, so I'm telling you stuff that's specific to you.

A lot of guys who if they go right arm only, they just push this way.

I'm going to help you feel how this is a little bit more of a little sidearm kind of flick instead of pushing out over the top.

But I believe most of your problem comes from, you know, starting to try and pull the club down with both hands from the top too soon.

So we're going to take one out and we're going to see how your swing shallows out with just this arm.

And then we'll see how, if we need to, shallows out with just the left arm.

They both have to kind of learn to work together for this to happen.

But it's a lot easier for this to happen from here.

than it is from here.

Because as soon as you elevate a lot, not that you elevate a lot, but you have a fair bit, you've activated this right front delt, your shoulder muscle and the medial delt.

Both of these things, once they're tight or activated, they don't just all of a sudden relax.

How would they do that?

You've worked to lift your arms up.

And so, of course, all of a sudden, these muscles don't just deactivate.

And that's why it's difficult.

So when you have high hands, you know there's a lot of little.

There's shallowing moves that you have to kind of do to work with that again.

If we don't, activate this delt and lift this arm up and it stays more relaxed because it's moving in sync with your body.

Turn instead of trying to move on two different planes as much as the AR in your case, then this shoulder stays more relaxed.

And as soon as you make that nice transition move that you guys have been working on, my hand is going to drop straight down in front of my chest with zero, you know, effort in trying to do that.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

Okay.

So let's try that right arm only for a moment.

Okay.

I just want you to make some practice swings and just feel that those two are connected.

You can choke up on the club as much as you like.

Good.

And now just come down from there.

Okay.

So once you've got your arm there, just relax it.

Go to the top.

Now feel your right shoulder should be relatively relaxed at the moment.

Yeah.

And then just forget about it and just focus on your transition with your lower body and see what happens.

Okay, still a little bit steep.

Close there.

All right, so still a little steep, and that's good.

Let's take a look.

Okay, so this is where I was telling you to feel relaxed.

So you can see now that your bicep is just a little bit, or excuse me, your elbow a little bit beneath your pec right there.

That's very shallow.

It's a big difference.

It's felt very low.

Yeah, it's going to feel insanely low.

It probably feels like it's down around your waist.

But when you get the left arm up there, you'll see that your left arm would be just above your shoulder plane and it would all be just about perfect.

So while this feels very different for you.

It's going to be much more compact and much simpler, it's just fewer moving parts, right?

But then as we came down, you still started to kind of get the the arm to go and the shoulders to go.

And the hips didn't see how your hips are dead square.

Basically, yes, okay, so this is normal.

But this is important for you to start to understand the steepening and shallowing moves that you need to get all of this stuff to gel.

So in your case, when you go right arm only, you basically got to just forget about your arm for a moment.

And just get your hips to go.

Because your hips work way better when you're swinging at full speed, right?

Okay, so, and that will help.

The club shot, but now your hand's a little bit far in front, so what happened there is, you're in this position, but then you start moving the club, forget about the club and start using your hips to get out of the way.

And you'll feel, as your arms start to stay more relaxed, that you're not trying to push the club through.

This is where you're losing speed in your swing, even though you've got reasonable speed.

But as you start trying to move the club, there's not enough speed and muscle mass in your arms and opposition to really be able to generate any speed.

So you can't rely on that.

So you just got to keep it kind of chilled out here and then use your body.

And once you do that, you'll see.

my hand drops down because as it's moving back this way while my body is beginning to transition back to the left, that creates this little bit of separation.

So my right bicep, that's why I'm telling you in the backswing, these two are connected.

But during the transition, there can be a little bit of separation where my body gets a little bit afraid of these hands.

Again, it's a shallowing move, right?

If you keep this connected and you start turning right away, your hands start moving out toward the ball.

You go back and you start to transition while the club's still going back a little bit, create just the tiniest bit of separation between these two, and you'll feel that little dynamic drop of your hand to get here.

Yeah, there you go.

Relax the arm even a little bit more.

Yeah, I can feel it's really tight.

It's wanting to do something.

Yep.

That might have been a better one.

All right, let's take a quick look.

So this was just like your first little practice kind of drill.

But you can see how your hands are staying back behind, your hand is staying back behind your chest now, right?

Yes.

And then as you started to do a couple, you said, you know, I started to feel your shoulder or your, you know, your pec start to kind of tighten up.

And there I can see it.

And then you're starting to kind of turn that right shoulder.

It's better.

The club obviously shallows out there.

And then you get a much better to good hip turn there and a good release.

And then as you started to kind of feel a little bit more dynamic there, you can see it there.

And again, you won't, you won't be able to get that, you know, big of a separation when your left hand's on there too, right?

Okay, yep, but as you you can see, it buys you that little bit of time.

So your hips are already back to square.

You're still trying to get it out there a little bit, but it's closer.

But you can start to see now like, okay, gosh, when I feel super shallow, I feel like my hands are really dropping and I feel like my arms are staying way back during the transition.

They are, but then you can see like, oh gosh, right here, I start to really turn my right shoulder to try and get it, get the club back out there.

And then it kind of puts the club out in front of you a little bit more.

And so you can exaggerate that now and get a little bit even more shallow with But that's not bad right there.

It's pretty darn close.

So now we're going to go ahead.

I didn't say anything.

Oh, sorry.

I keep getting an echo in here, I think.

Let's check the last one.

That was pretty good there.

There you got pretty dynamic with it.

Yeah, it looked like I had maybe a little more speed in that one.

Yeah.

But you can see now that separation I was talking about between your upper bicep and your pec.

Yes.

And again, this is exaggerated because your left hand's not on there, right?

You won't be able to do that.

But you get the idea now, instead of your hands normally moving immediately out toward the ball from the top, they're just kind of floating.

Right now, it's kind of hanging out.

It's buying you that tenth of a second or those milliseconds.

To get that body a little bit out in front, to get the hips a chance to clear out of the way.

And then, you know, now your arms are still way back.

Normally your hands would be already, you know, close to impact at this point, right?

Yes, so now you're just staying back, staying back, staying back.

And then you get that little flick of the wrist, that little release, that little boost to speed right at the bottom, instead of doing it so hard, so soon from the top.

So as you start to kind of think about your swing and those perspectives, my goal for you, I wanna help people understand their swings, right?

So that you don't need me, you don't need anything else.

You just, you know what you kind of gotta do.

You get some really basic stuff that's really easy to understand and follow.

And then that's it.

For the rest of your life, you just work on the same crap and you shouldn't take that long, right?

You just kind of get it dialed in and then you're done.

And in your case, You can see now by just removing some little extra variables in your swing and getting a little bit more time in the downswing for your hands to just wait, to give your body time to get out of the way, that now the club and your hands are back here.

And so you start to understand, okay, well, that feeling of this.

is what I need to feel when now I have both hands on the club.

So now as I come back, instead of you normally going this way, you're going to feel the same thing, that little right arm separation at the top during the transition.

And you can see my hands as I'm halfway down are still back here.

And then there's that little effortless boost at the bottom.

And that's where your speed really comes from instead of you trying to get your speed so soon from the top.

Does that make sense?

Yes, it does.

So let's go ahead.

Do you have a question?

Yeah.

I was thinking about something with those arms.

I've lost my thought now on it.

Oh, I know.

So in my swing, typically what I'll see is that it looks like a tiny bit of a closed hip shift.

And it's probably from.

I'm here, and I've made this big old turn, and I have started.

And so that's why they look close, and I never get the left hip open.

So I kind of need to be the opposite of a hip spinner, and I need to feel that going a lot quicker, right?

Not necessarily.

I understand what you're saying, but not necessarily.

Because it looked like that's what I did in that video right there.

When I got to here, I just really, I really started my engine down here and this just hung back and it's blown out, right?

Yes.

So yes and no.

You're correct and not necessarily 100% correct in the same sentence.

Okay.

So as far as what you're saying, there is a little bit of a closed hip slide during that transition because as your hip is turning and going back, this right hip, It's starting to move because you're rotating around the base of your spine back here.

So as you're starting to do this, it's starting to help you shift back to the left.

But this is happening super fast.

If you're going really slow, it would look like this.

But that's happening in the blink of an eye.

So yes, you do need this tiny little bit as this right hip is getting depth and moving around and starting to.

you know, shift your weight back to the lead leg.

There's this, you know, milliseconds of a closed hip slide and then you go.

Gotcha.

What's really important is the muscles that are loaded during that phase of the swing and when they're firing, right?

That's really your issue.

As you elevate your arms, like most golfers, obviously you're going to use your shoulders to do this.

This is what raises your arms up and down.

right?

That's the only muscles we got.

That and our traps, right?

So we see a lot of really high handicaps, you know, do this kind of stuff.

They really shrug their shoulders up.

That's really high handicap stuff.

You're obviously not doing that, but you're still elevating your arms and activating these shoulders.

The trick is then figuring out how do I get that club to shallow out?

A lot of golfers like Colin Montgomery who have really high hands will add a lot of lateral move to do that, right?

All of this stuff is buying time.

That's really what it is.

the most precious commodity you have in the downswing is time.

It's, it's invaluable because there's just not a whole heck of a lot of it.

Okay.

So you're, you're doing everything in a quarter of a second, which means if you're fast twitch muscle fibers, the hands and arms, the stuff that can move really quick, get the slightest bit head start.

There's just not enough physical time to get all the other crap done.

And that's what you're really experiencing in your swing.

And that's what you saw different there.

You're like, Oh, well now, Because my hand's not doing this, moving out toward the target, it looks like my hips are just getting way out in front, right?

We don't want that either.

And we don't want you spinning your hips out.

What you're finding is because, you know, the arms aren't connected.

So when the arms are connected, if you start turning your shoulders at all, the hands are going out this way.

There's no way around it, right?

But when it's just right arm only, and even if you make a mistake and turn your shoulders really fast, well, your arm is just still going to stay back.

And that's what I'm trying to get you to feel is what I really did is just buy you time.

I bought you a tenth of a second at the top to get that little shallowing move, but it's much smaller from here than it is from here.

Because then you need more than the time I just bought you.

We need more lateral or more rotational or whatever it may be.

And I'm just trying to make it simple, man.

I just want it to be as tight and compact and boring as humanly possible.

I love that.

Okay.

So let's put, yeah, do a couple right hand only again, just to get the feeling.

Use those hips.

And then as you get the feeling of your arm, your hand kind of staying back a little bit behind your turn to buy that time, go left hand.

Wow, this feels like my nine to three swing.

All right.

So your hands are still going out there.

So I want you to exaggerate that.

Yeah, there you go.

Good.

You're still kind of hanging back on your right foot there.

So get your hips going out of the way and let the arms stay back.

All right.

So let's take a look at that.

So you're still firing the arms, but I want you to see it so that you can start to recognize what's going on here.

So first couple, right hand only.

Pretty good transition there.

The club's starting to shallow out.

But you can see that you're still wanting to move those hands out toward the ball, right?

And this is normal to you.

So this is why this is the trick here, is that if you're still trying to move that golf club with your hands out toward the ball, you're going to kind of keep running into this same circumstance.

And now.

you won't have as much time to get your body out of the way, your hips out of the way, and you're a little flat-footed here.

So you're kind of hanging back on the right side there a little bit.

That ankle should be rolled in slightly.

Yeah, you should be shifted more to the left side at that point, but you just didn't really have enough time to get everything all the way over, so you're hanging back.

Now, as we put the left hand back on there, this is where you said you felt like you were making a 9-to-3 swing.

Yeah, that felt so.

That felt just like my nine to three.

I promise if I send you a nine to three, it's probably like it's on my bike.

That's normal, man.

That happens for everybody, right?

And that's kind of the beauty of this is when you start really understanding how, because you use your lower body really well, it just doesn't have enough time and your arms are kind of taking over a little bit.

Your swing should feel like a nine to three swing.

That's my favorite feeling 1000 in the world personally is that I feel 1001 like I took the club back to parallel and 1002 I still hit it full distance, right?

1003 That's kind of the goal, because that's 1004 how we're going to boost consistency is 1005 we're making a swing that just doesn't 1006 have that many moving parts.

So your 1007 hands are still a little bit, they're 1008 pretty close there and you had a good 1009 separation there, but the hands are still 1010 moving out.

But you shallowed out right 1011 at the bottom, which was totally fine.

1012 Right here you're in a good spot, but you 1013 can see now that your hips are dead 1014 square.

Yes, right.

So now if you're 1015 hitting a dead square, by the time we get 1016 to impact, there's just no chance.

1017 There's no chance of them getting out of 1018 the way at that point.

And they don't.

1019 Okay.

So let me pull up something.

1020 Show you kind of a pretty big example of 1021 taking this to the extremes.

1022 All right, so we'll pull up Tiger here.

1023 Now watch during the transition.

1024 So his, from down the line anyway, 1025 you know, he's starting to shift back to 1026 the left right here.

But his hands, and 1027 obviously I don't have the face on view 1028 of this swing, but I can see that his, 1029 you know, his belt buckle and his hips 1030 are starting to move deeper, his left leg 1031 starting to move.

So that's kind of the 1032 beginning.

1033 Of the transition from this view, he 1034 technically probably started a little bit 1035 sooner, but anyway, so let's watch how 1036 far his hands keep going while he's 1037 transitioning to the left.

So they went 1038 in, the club, went up another couple 1039 inches, yes, but he's already 1040 transitioned to the left.

And now his 1041 hands really haven't moved much.

They 1042 have, but they haven't moved much.

In 1043 relationship to his body.

This.

This 1044 right arm angle is starting to widen a 1045 little bit, the distance of his hands 1046 from his shoulders are starting to widen 1047 a little bit.

But it's not.

But in your 1048 case, you're widening a lot at this phase 1049 of the swing.

Your hands are firing soon, 1050 and as we keep walking Tiger down, you'll 1051 see that.

That is something that he does 1052 as well as anybody, if not better than 1053 anybody in the business, is.

His hands 1054 are still 1055 really high up.

I can start to see his 1056 left butt cheek already.

1057 His left arm is barely below parallel.

1058 Now you can see obviously the other side 1059 of his belt line here.

1060 You can see how much his hips are open at 1061 that point and how much his hands are 1062 behind his belt buckle at that point.

1063 That's a much bigger hip turn, but 1064 The trick is that move can't happen if 1065 your arms get a head start.

There's just 1066 not enough time.

You can't move your 1067 pelvis that much that far.

And that's why 1068 it's happening in your swing that if your 1069 hands get the slightest bit too antsy 1070 from the top, or your shoulders start to 1071 go from the top, your hands go this way.

1072 And as you saw in Tiger's case, You know, 1073 he has much lower, shallower hands on top 1074 of his swing now.

Now, in order to 1075 compensate for that, he's got to have a 1076 steeper posture, steeper shoulder plane, 1077 steeper spine angle, because that's 1078 steepening moves in his swing, right?

So 1079 once you start, if you swing really 1080 upright with your hands, again, call him 1081 Montgomery.

Well, your posture is going 1082 to tend to be, I'm going to exaggerate 1083 this, you know, flatter shoulders, more 1084 upright arms, right?

1085 What you'll see in Tiger's case is that 1086 he's got.

steeper shoulders, shallower 1087 arms.

1088 Those two balance each other out.

Your 1089 hands still got to get up here somewhere.

1090 You got to have some leverage, right?

But 1091 as your hands are here, then you've got 1092 to be steeper with your spine, which 1093 makes it easier to get your hips out of 1094 the way.

And so from here, now, if I do 1095 any of this, I'm screwed, right?

If my 1096 hands, arms and shoulders are going 1097 because my hips will just never get out 1098 of the way in time.

So what he's doing, 1099 hands and arms are chilling out, buying 1100 time.

1101 For those hips to get out of the way, and 1102 that's why his hands look like they're 1103 way back behind where his hips are 1104 pointing.

And then, at the very last 1105 second, he's letting the club release.

1106 That's what you have to feel.

And again, 1107 as you remove all the extra arm load and 1108 tension from your swing.

Where they want 1109 to go and fire hard from the top, and you 1110 start prioritizing getting your hips out 1111 of the way.

and getting your hands a 1112 little bit shallow in relationship to 1113 your shoulders, then all of this stuff 1114 starts to kind of blend together a little 1115 bit easier so that you're not just 1116 standing straight up and firing your 1117 arms.

1118 Your posture, if you were a little bit 1119 steeper, that would help a little bit.

As 1120 you get a little bit flatter with 1121 everything, your hands kind of tend to 1122 want to go out this way.

Because as 1123 you're a little bit flatter with your 1124 shoulders, 1125 then this move to shallow it out, Starts 1126 to really get you coming way too far from 1127 the inside, feels unnatural and so you 1128 just kind of start goofing around with 1129 it.

So anyway, long story short, a little 1130 bit steeper with the shoulders will help 1131 a little bit the spine angle.

But the 1132 biggest thing is just again getting your 1133 hips to get out of the way while your 1134 hands stay back.

Okay, so set up a little 1135 steeper.

Yep, a little bit, Yeah, a 1136 little steeper at setup, tiny bit.

1137 Okay.

1138 How's that?

1139 That's fine there.

Let's work with that.

1140 All right.

1141 Good.

1142 There you go.

Better.

Again.

1143 Yeah, the hips are a lot better.

1144 All right, let's take a quick look at 1145 those.

1146 I can really feel my core a little more 1147 engaged than I typically do.

1148 Good.

1149 That will definitely be a big change.

1150 If you can start to feel that, that's 1151 very helpful.

1152 All right.

So I know you probably feel 1153 really bent over here, but you can see 1154 your posture looks totally fine.

1155 So now normally your hands would already 1156 be working out.

you know, immediately 1157 toward the ball, right?

1158 Yep.

1159 So there is much better in terms of the 1160 path that your hands are traveling on and 1161 the club is traveling on.

You can see now 1162 your hips are much more open.

1163 Yeah, exactly, so you can feel now how 1164 that starts to happen.

Naturally, as 1165 you're not trying to move your hands out 1166 toward the ball, your right arm.

The way 1167 that it's going to work in the swing, let 1168 me just get you down to impact here.

1169 Yeah, way better, all right.

So what 1170 you're doing is kind of immediately 1171 straightening and throwing the club ad 1172 out from the top, right?

And that's why 1173 your arm, right arm gets out like this at 1174 impact and is fully stretched out.

And 1175 you saw in Tiger's case, now he was 1176 hitting a pretty big cut there.

So it's a 1177 little bit different, trying to come down 1178 pretty steep and come across the ball a 1179 little bit and get the handle working 1180 left.

But you'll see that that right arm, 1181 the strangest way that I've ever been 1182 able to feel this in my own swing.

And 1183 the only way that I've really been able 1184 to kind of feel it and help other 1185 students understand it is basically.

1186 I'll show, I'll give you a kind of a 1187 simple drill to exaggerate this.

It's 1188 going to feel pretty strange.

Okay.

But 1189 it's going to help you understand when 1190 you have high hands, like you did at the 1191 top, not, not very high hands, right?

But 1192 like, you know, a little bit higher than 1193 this move to straighten this arm out and 1194 get your body away and turn a little bit 1195 flatter with your shoulders works.

Or 1196 even doing this kind of like the old 1197 sidearm throw where you get this elbow 1198 way, you know, doing this, that's a 1199 shallowing move.

Wouldn't necessarily 1200 recommend doing it quite that extreme, 1201 but it works because it's shallowing out 1202 the club, right?

1203 When you get steeper with your shoulders 1204 and you have shallower hands, the 1205 movement, you need steepening moves in 1206 your swing, which seems kind of 1207 counterintuitive, right?

Most golfers 1208 have way too much steepness in their 1209 swing in general.

1210 You're on the other side of it, okay?

So 1211 to steepen.

The hand, the path, like if 1212 you notice when I showed you the last 1213 video, your left arm at this point was 1214 vertical.

And a lot of times your left 1215 hand is out like this.

Always.

Your left 1216 arm, excuse me, right?

Yes.

So again, 1217 that's a shallowing move, okay?

1218 But in order to feel this correctly, the 1219 steepening move is, the way that I 1220 describe it, is I take the club.

1221 What's that?

Trace the plank.

1222 Yeah, it's like tracing the plane line, 1223 but this is a little bit different 1224 because it's kind of focusing on what my 1225 hands and arms are doing to change the 1226 pitch and attitude of the shaft.

So I 1227 actually feel like I'm stabbing myself in 1228 the leg with my shaft.

Okay.

1229 These are big exaggerations, and I'll 1230 show you how to tone this down, but I 1231 want you to think about this again as 1232 steepening and shallowing moves, right?

1233 So if I do this, my hips aren't going to 1234 get out of the way.

It's a shallowing 1235 move, right?

It works.

There's guys that 1236 play on the tour that do it, right?

1237 And then this is a steepening.

This looks 1238 just as crazy as this, but that's what 1239 they have to feel like because there's so 1240 much force acting on the shaft, on your 1241 body.

It's happening so quickly.

So this 1242 is one of those cases where it kind of 1243 helps to really exaggerate something to 1244 the extreme.

And then slowly start toning 1245 it down and watching what happens on 1246 video, because it feels bizarre, as can 1247 be.

And then you see it on video, and 1248 you're like, oh, wow, this actually 1249 starts to, it doesn't look anything like 1250 it feels, okay?

This is one of those 1251 things.

So here, your right arm, you're 1252 normally doing this.

It needs to do this.

1253 Again, exaggeration.

Yes.

1254 Right, so it's going to straighten out a 1255 little bit, but you can't go this way.

1256 This will cause you to stand up, okay?

1257 Yes.

1258 So now, as I'm doing this, 1259 with my arm, you can see that that pulls 1260 my left arm in to my body instead of 1261 going out this way.

1262 Huge exaggeration.

So I go here and then 1263 it helps me as I'm doing this, helps me 1264 get my left hip out of the way.

And you 1265 can see my arm, My right arm is more into 1266 my body and then it's more connected.

And 1267 then releases here, where I can get rid 1268 of that final last little bit of elbow 1269 bend for speed at the bottom.

Okay.

1270 As I start to tone this down, so I'm not 1271 like stabbing myself in the thigh, that's 1272 a big steepening move.

Then I start to 1273 kind of feel like it goes to the front of 1274 my thigh and then it goes to the middle 1275 and then it goes to my left thigh.

And 1276 then I start thinking about, oh, that's 1277 getting my left thigh out of the way, my, 1278 you know, my left leg.

So now as I keep 1279 this back, it brings the club out on top, 1280 as you mentioned, like tracing the plane 1281 line this way.

Again, these are 1282 exaggerations, but you get the idea of 1283 this is very different than that.

1284 That's the huge exaggeration.

1285 Bingo.

Yep.

1286 Exactly like that.

Yep.

1287 Do it a couple more times.

1288 It starts to work naturally.

1289 Yeah.

1290 Now do that again.

Keep doing that, but 1291 just let the club kind of swing through, 1292 through the hitting area while trying to 1293 maintain that feeling.

1294 All right, cool.

Let's take a quick look.

1295 Okay.

1296 So that feel pretty extreme, I'm 1297 assuming, right?

Yes.

1298 Okay.

So you'll be shocked when you see 1299 what happens with that.

1300 So naturally, you can see your hands are 1301 shallower at the top, right?

You're 1302 starting to kind of put this stuff 1303 together.

I love that top position right 1304 there, like just the way it looks.

I 1305 would love to say that.

1306 Well, what's cool about this is when you 1307 start thinking of the swing holistically, 1308 you start thinking about the whole thing 1309 of what you're trying to do.

1310 Part of me, let me pause this for just a 1311 second.

1312 So I think for a lot of golfers, the 1313 swing gets really disjointed because they 1314 look at the swing in components, right?

1315 And certain components work really well 1316 with certain things and certain 1317 components don't work at all.

Okay.

And 1318 again, I think the simplest way to think 1319 about it and how all of my research 1320 started with high hands versus low hands 1321 is understanding the swing of like, okay, 1322 if you have this, you need a lot of 1323 shallowing moves.

You have this, you need 1324 a lot of steepening moves.

Okay.

But when 1325 you think about the swing in terms of 1326 like, okay, well, what's the purpose of, 1327 you know, mastering a takeaway like this?

1328 Well, honestly, there's not really much 1329 purpose in that.

Because what really 1330 matters is the downswing.

It doesn't 1331 really matter.

You can see guys like Ray 1332 Floyd do this crap.

1333 That's a hard position to recover from, 1334 but you can do it.

My bigger point is 1335 that everything that you're doing in the 1336 downswing is the top priority.

And so 1337 when you start thinking about how your 1338 downswing needs to really work, based on 1339 the elevation of your hands and what 1340 you're trying to do with your swing, then 1341 the backswing starts to happen in a way 1342 that automatically allows you and it sets 1343 itself up for the priority, which is the 1344 downswing, right?

So if you think to 1345 yourself, 1346 okay, Chuck's telling me I got to steep 1347 in and my left hand, my left arm is going 1348 to be much steeper and vertical instead 1349 of swinging out away from me.

And so now, 1350 you know, as you're taking the club back 1351 during the takeaway, you start to set 1352 yourself up so that this becomes possible 1353 because this steepening move is not 1354 possible from here.

1355 You know, or taking the way outside that 1356 doesn't make sense, right?

So what I?

My 1357 goal is again trying to simplify this 1358 stuff for everybody to be able to learn 1359 faster.

Is that?

As you start thinking 1360 about, Okay, if I'm gonna be, you know, 1361 have a shallower arm plane at the top and 1362 I start wanting to do.

Add these 1363 steepening moves.

Well, then everything 1364 I'm doing from the moment I start that 1365 club back is all about setting that up.

1366 So the takeaway and the position of the 1367 backswing all starts to become 1368 instinctual.

Because all you're trying to 1369 do is make these priority moves happen 1370 naturally, and so that's what you'll see.

1371 You'll start naturally getting to a 1372 shallower position at the top.

Without me 1373 trying to tell you to do it.

Because it 1374 makes sense with how you're trying to 1375 bring the club down to downswing.

And so 1376 now your swing isn't a big bucket of 1377 parts.

It's one cohesive unit with all of 1378 these steepening and shallowing moves 1379 that work together.

So you can see there, 1380 like, I didn't tell you to, like, 1381 lay the club off, or, you know, shallow 1382 it out right here, you're doing this.

1383 Because in order for your right arm to 1384 work in the way that I told you in the 1385 downswing, you have to, yeah, wow, so you 1386 can see now the club shaft, your arm are 1387 all basically on the same plane.

I didn't 1388 tell you to do that, I didn't teach you 1389 that, but I knew it would happen as you 1390 start thinking about this stuff in terms 1391 of what is it going to do to my 1392 downswing.

And so now you can see that 1393 the club is going to, it needs, because 1394 your hands are much deeper than they 1395 normally are, you need steepening moves.

1396 And that's where stabbing yourself in the 1397 thigh.

But look where your hands are.

Oh, 1398 they finally dropped straight down.

I 1399 honestly didn't think I was capable of 1400 there.

1401 Well, from your position at the top 1402 before with your high hands, it's more 1403 challenging.

You need to do, you know, 1404 honestly, one of the best shallowing 1405 moves for high hands is losing your tush 1406 line.

That's a big shallowing move.

As 1407 you move your pelvis into the ball, it 1408 drops the shaft because your spine gets 1409 more upright.

It's not ideal, but it 1410 works, right?

So as I got your hands 1411 shallower at the top, but your shoulders 1412 steeper.

1413 Now your hands need to work in a steeper 1414 fashion naturally.

And so by giving you 1415 that little, my little goofy stab 1416 yourself in the thigh drill, you can see 1417 the club gets steep on playing through 1418 your forearm, but your hands are way 1419 back.

And again, this is an exaggeration, 1420 right?

1421 We want your arm to be about vertical, 1422 not quite inside, but normally it was way 1423 out here, right?

1424 So you can see that even though this move 1425 feels insane, as you start to do this 1426 with a little bit of pace, it all starts 1427 to gel together as you start fighting the 1428 forces that are acting on the club.

You 1429 can see now there is no chance of you 1430 swinging your hands out toward the ball.

1431 Nope.

1432 Right?

1433 Yeah.

1434 So then I said, okay, let's try to do it 1435 with a little bit of pace.

1436 Let the club kind of keep coming through.

1437 You can see the club keeps shallowing.

1438 And as you notice, which is great, your 1439 hips start to naturally do what they need 1440 to do because they need to get out of the 1441 way because your hands are coming down 1442 steeper.

That's a steepening move, right?

1443 So you'll see that this all starts to gel 1444 together.

And so now instead of thinking 1445 about, okay, I got to make sure I shift 1446 to the left and push my left hip out of 1447 the way and all that stuff.

1448 It happens automatically, right?

1449 Because of the way that your hands and 1450 arms are coming down with these 1451 steepening moves.

You can see now, like, 1452 look how shallow your left arm is now, 1453 right?

Again, you're doing this 1454 naturally.

And this is why I personally 1455 believe that this will be a faster way 1456 for people to learn the really important 1457 complexities of the swing, the stuff that 1458 has to happen to have a good golf swing.

1459 Naturally, you're a perfect example of 1460 the clubs now totally shallowed out.

It's 1461 coming down on plane.

And then as you 1462 started to come through, even there, 1463 like, your hands are going straight down, 1464 staying back, hips getting out of the 1465 way, that's it.

Make sense, 1466 Yeah.

So, I mean, on those last, you 1467 know, you said first to the thigh, then 1468 the leg, then to the middle, then left 1469 leg.

1470 When I was going through, is that kind of 1471 the last stage of that drill?

1472 Say that.

I didn't catch the last part.

1473 Your volume was a little – I'm having a 1474 hard time doing some of these.

1475 1476 you said when I started this drill, I 1477 needed to focus on the right thigh and 1478 then gradually work it through the – 1479 Yeah, so as you saw, when you really 1480 tried to stab yourself in the thigh, your 1481 hand stayed way back, right?

Yeah.

You 1482 may still feel that, but as you start 1483 adding speed, 1484 you're not going to be able to, right?

1485 You're not going to be able to stab 1486 yourself in the thigh because your body 1487 turn, hip turn, all that stuff's 1488 happening so much quicker that you may 1489 still feel this.

But it's actually going 1490 to be way out here because everything is 1491 turning right, so that's part of the 1492 dynamics of the swing.

When you're doing 1493 stuff slow, sometimes you have to really 1494 exaggerate these things because when you 1495 add pace to them, you've got centrifugal 1496 force.

Trying to fling your arms out, you 1497 got your hips ripping, you got all kinds 1498 of stuff going on, right?

And that's why 1499 when I was working on this drill, I'm 1500 like, I have to feel personally so 1501 extreme with it.

Because of the forces 1502 that are acting on the club, right?

Like, 1503 As I'm going back, especially as you 1504 start really adding pace to your 1505 backswing, right?

Now that you're 1506 swinging more around.

As you're going 1507 this way, gravity is pulling the club 1508 this way.

1509 The force of the club, inertia is pulling 1510 the club this way.

You need to steepen it 1511 now, 1512 right?

1513 Whereas before, if your hands are up 1514 here, 1515 steepening is the last thing you need to 1516 do, right?

You start steepening it, 1517 you're going to miss it.

You're going to 1518 whiff it, right?

So again, that's why, as 1519 you start swinging shallower to simplify 1520 things, you now have to think about it.

1521 In terms of what forces am I fighting 1522 now?

And that's why I have to feel such 1523 an exaggerated move, because I've got all 1524 this momentum going this way.

I need to 1525 overcome that and get that club to be 1526 steep.

Because if I let this happen and 1527 then go the old school way of shallowing 1528 it right, I'm coming a mile from the 1529 inside and blocking it off the freaking 1530 planet.

Okay, yep, That's where I think a 1531 lot of players, especially low handicap 1532 players, good players with good movements 1533 like you have, they kind of get in this 1534 no man's land in terms of the steepening 1535 and shallowing moves, right?

It's not 1536 that somebody telling you to feel like 1537 this is a bad thing per se, but if your 1538 hands are up here, if your hands are 1539 already down here, 1540 first of all, there's not much else for 1541 them to go, but you're already shallow.

1542 Because your arms are already shallow in 1543 relationship to your shoulders.

So if 1544 you're already shallow and you try to add 1545 more shallowing moves, well, now all of a 1546 sudden, you went from being a good golfer 1547 to a shitty golfer because you're 1548 blocking it and hooking it off the 1549 planet.

It's not that that information is 1550 wrong.

It's wrong for that set of 1551 steepening and shallowing moves.

Does 1552 that make sense?

Absolutely.

1553 So you may feel, to get back to that, 1554 you may feel like this on the way down.

1555 as your body starts moving fast.

Or you 1556 may start to get to the point like, oh, I 1557 feel it's pretty natural.

I feel like I'm 1558 doing it more into my left thigh.

But my 1559 point is the feeling of that will be 1560 dependent on just kind of how all the 1561 forces that you're fighting, how fast 1562 you're moving and all of that stuff.

So 1563 don't give yourself a hard and set rule 1564 with it.

Don't say, okay, I need to start 1565 working it forward.

1566 Look at what your swing is doing 1567 dynamically.

1568 Are your hands still shallow?

If you 1569 start trying to go to your left thigh, 1570 like some people may feel, 1571 you know, are you now getting steep again 1572 because you're trying to move the hands 1573 or what have you?

So think of it more 1574 holistically is the kind of the end story 1575 there.

1576 Gotcha.

1577 Yeah.

So I'm going to work on that.

1578 I mean, 1579 that kind of took.

1580 You know, that separation that we were 1581 working on, that girl takes care of it.

I 1582 mean, that really is all I need to be 1583 focused on.

1584 As you do this, again, exaggerating, this 1585 automatically separates this stuff, 1586 right?

Gotcha.

At first, I was just 1587 trying to get you to feel a little bit 1588 more dynamic and the natural shallowing 1589 of it and your body and all that stuff.

1590 And then as you start doing this, you'll 1591 feel how this starts to happen naturally.

1592 But again, it's going to feel really 1593 goofy at first, but you saw it on video.

1594 Even with the big exaggeration.

it's not 1595 nearly as big as you think, right?

1596 Yeah.

1597 Cool.

All right.

That's great.

1598 So I would just work on that for a little 1599 bit, watch it on video, see what's 1600 happening, do some drills, exaggerate it, 1601 and then add some pace to it and be like, 1602 holy crap, I can do this a lot more than 1603 I thought, or maybe I'm doing it too 1604 much.

And then you've got to find that 1605 happy little medium.

1606 Gotcha.

1607 Man, thank you so much for your time 1608 today.

1609 Awesome, man.

I hope it helps.

And do you 1610 mind if I share this?

I know this is a 1611 lot of new stuff that I've been working 1612 on and I'm putting out on videos.

Do you 1613 mind if I share this lesson?

Yeah, that's 1614 fine.

1615 Cool.

All right, dude.

Well, let me know 1616 how it works out.

1617 I will.

Thank you.

1618 All right.

Talk to you soon.

Bye.