Widen the Lead Wrist

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Before we can talk about widening the angle, we got to know what the angle is.

In this video, we're going to focus solely on the lead arm.

So if you're playing golf with right-handed clubs, that's going to be your left arm.

The angle that we're referring to with the lead arm is really just the angle between the shaft and the forearm.

This is typically what's defined as lag.

That term has been tossed around for a very, very long time by a bunch of different people, including myself.

And the reality is that we know now with 3D motion capture that most tour pros not only have less angle than a lot of amateurs, but they're trying to widen it or get rid of it as early in the downswing as humanly possible.

When we talk about the right arm in the next video or the trail arm, we're going to see that even more so.

So the key is understanding how to produce power if you don't have this angle.

Because it's long been thought that the longer you hold this angle, the quicker it's going to snap at the bottom.

And that is true.

The trick is that's not necessarily what the greatest players of all time actually did in their swing.

And as you saw in the intro video, many great players, including the greatest of all time, Jack Nicklaus, said he didn't feel he could throw the club hard enough or early enough at the top of the downswing as long as he was moving to his lead side.

And that is the trick.

And it's way, way easier than you think.

In fact, swinging this way, as I've spent all of this time trying to learn and understand it and internalize it and feel it for myself, it's truly the easiest way to swing the golf club I can possibly imagine.

And what's really amazing, as you saw in the intro video, it's instinctive.

This is a natural thing to do.

We just have to get the right feel for it.

And that's what I want to share with you right now.

So with the lead arm, take your club, go to the top, and you can start from setup if you want.

And you'll note that at setup, there's a certain amount of lag, quote unquote, built into your swing.

That would be getting rid of all of it if the angle of the shaft and the forearm were the same.

But we start with a little bit.

And then as we go back, this angle increases or decreases, depending on how you want to define it.

For our purposes, we're going to talk about widening that angle.

And that's what we're talking about at the top of the swing.

Again, commonly thought of in the golf swing, we think of pulling the arms down or turning the body or doing something to maintain this angle because most golfers throw it from the top, which is exactly what I'm going to get you to do.

I'm just going to get you to do it the right way.

So what is the whole trick to this?

It's really simple.

And we're going to do this one arm at a time to keep it really, really basic because once you put them together, this stuff's going to all click.

So go to the top of your swing with the angle that you have in your wrist.

And all I want you to feel, note how the club feels a little heavy because it's kind of falling back, gravity's pulling it down.

And what I want you to do is start tipping it up to the balance point where it feels pretty light.

And you can hold it very lightly.

You just barely hold it with your fingers because it's balanced now.

Now, from here, start to widen that angle a little bit more, just like this.

All I'm doing is this with my wrist.

That's it.

Go to the top, widen this angle.

Now, once you start to tip it to this point and it starts to fall the other way, let it fall.

All you need to do is widen this angle and start to feel how as you start to toss it out, and it starts to have its own momentum.

That you no longer need to feel that you've got to rip it down with your arms or rip it down with your shoulders.

It's got its own inertia.

So you're going to literally start to go from here, start to widen it, and let it And as you're doing that, I'm going to talk about exactly what to feel in just a moment.

But the key is simply starting to get a feel for when this club begins to fall and have its own momentum.

When it's sitting here, it doesn't want to go anywhere.

So we have to change directions in the backswing, and we do that by starting to widen this angle in the wrist, give it its own momentum, and then as you're coming down, you should feel that your hand becomes light.

And this is the key.

This is what you have to develop a sensitivity to and awareness of, is that if you're used to holding this club really tight with your fingers and pulling this thing down with your hands, you'll never, ever feel that great throwing motion that Nicholas is talking about, that Tiger Woods did in his swing, that the Greats did in their swing.

You have to learn to feel this, and you have to be sensitive to it.

And to do that, all you need to feel is relax your hand for right now, and just start to feel how, once it starts to pick up momentum, your hand becomes light.

It's almost like it becomes weightless for just a moment, because you're no longer trying to pull it down.

You're letting the club move under its own inertia.

As you're doing this, once you get a feel for the club and hand falling together, instead of your hand pulling the club down or forcing it down, then as you start to come down, start to bow this wrist slightly.

Now, for those of you that don't know, this would be a cupped wrist.

This would be a bowed wrist.

We just need a tiny, tiny amount of bowing.

And for those of you who've probably struggled to get their left wrist or lead wrist flat at impact, this is how you do it.

It won't happen if you're trying to yank the club down.

It's very easy for you to lose the club and not have the right feel for it.

But once you start to come down and you feel the club becoming weightless, you start to bow this wrist just slightly, and that's what helps you deal off the face like you see in all the great players.

Now, as you're doing this, once you get to this bowing point, you want to release that.

You don't want to hold it bowed like this forever, because that's going to cut off speed.

What you want is the opposite.

You actually want, once this bowing, and you strike the ground, in this case, we're not hitting the ball yet, you want it to release and start to cup.

And in your follow-through, here's your checkpoint.

You want to see that your lead wrist is fully cupped, like your logo of your glove is pointing down towards the ground, and the club face is at roughly a 30-degree angle, give or take.

If it's like this, you're holding onto the club too tight.

And if it's like this, you're in the right spot.

That means you let it release.

So let's start to put this together for a second.

Go to the top, get it under control with the last three fingers, start to widen the angle, and let it release.

Let's do that again.

Widen the angle with the wrist, nothing from the arms, nothing from the shoulders, nothing from the body.

Just begin to widen that angle, and let the club brush the grass.

And that's what you want to feel.

You want to feel it's almost like you're striking a match across a box.

You're not trying to hit down or pull down.

You're trying to let the club release.

That's the whole point of the swing, and that's what Jack Nicklaus was talking about.

When he throws it from the top, he's starting to gain speed early in the downswing, not trying to get it late.

Now, it may look like that, but that's not what you feel.

And that's the difference between intent in doing something and what you actually see on video.

I can tell you that I'm going to throw my arm as if I was throwing a ball as hard as I can, but what you're going to see, while I'm only focused on moving my hand, my whole body's moving in response to that.

That's what I believe Tiger and all these other great players are feeling in their golf swings, is that the club, they're throwing the club from the top, widening this angle to get the club back out in front of them, and that's really the key.

If you remember way back in 2000, Tiger Woods and Butch Harmon were talking about the golf swing on the Golf Channel and these changes that he was making with Butch, and one of the things he said he was working on was trying to get the club more out in front of him, and you hear this with tour pros all the time.

You look at Justin Rose, and he says, I've got to feel I've got to do this with my swing to get the club back out in front of me, and Tiger's saying the same thing.

I've got to feel that I've got to get the club back out in front of me.

What they're really talking about is the club head, and what's the easiest way to get that club head back out in front of you?

It's to widen that angle and to throw the club from the top.

Let's listen to Tiger talk about this real quick.

Keep the club head in front of my hands a little longer, going back, higher right arm, and from there, round off the left arm, make it a little flatter at the top, left wrist, left arm up a little higher, then from there, get the club down in front of me.

From here, there, I can arc it off with a little bit of a bow in my left hand to a nice short follow-through.

And then when you go to the top of your swing, probably the biggest change that Tiger's made is he's really tried to get his hands in front of himself coming down.

In other words, arms in front of the body, where the club used to lay down somehow when you're old swimming, you used to get stuck.

Yes.

They go, ole.

That's the lay the shaft down 16th tee player championship.

As you begin to get a feel for this, I want you to start paying attention to how the club is interacting with whatever you're on.

If you're on turf, if you're on grass, if you're on a mat, it's very important to start paying attention to how the club works through that surface.

What you want is just a brushing of that grass.

I like to, again, think of it as striking a match.

If you're starting to find that you're digging the club in, your arm and hand are way, way, way too tight, and you're trying to sustain this pull too long.

Really what you're trying to do, again, is just pitch the shaft.

Tip it this way.

It's going to start to fall, and then rather than fighting that fall, let it fall.

We're going to add more speed to this later when we get to the second video, but for right now, all you need to feel is how effortless this can be, and that's the whole point of this.

If I miss the ground completely, so there's a couple of different ways that you're going to miss.

One is going to be digging into the ground, as I mentioned, just pulling really hard.

That's not what you're trying to feel.

You're trying to feel this club get its own momentum.

The other one is if I try and flip my hands really quick and I lose a sense of that club head, then I might miss the ground completely, or if I keep pulling my arm.

Again, what you're going to feel is that the club actually bottoms out right at underneath the ball.

Now, of course, we know we want to strike it.

We want to hit the ball first and then get the divot a little bit more in front, but your vision, your feel for this is that you're letting the club do its own thing under its own weight, and you're just simply guiding it, and as you get comfortable with this, you'll see, notice how the club's really ripping through the turf, but I can't even begin to tell you how soft I am throughout my whole body to let it do that.

My hand is very soft.

I would say it's a three out of ten in terms of ten being squeezing as tight as I can and zero being not holding at all.

It's a three.

What I feel throughout the whole swing, and that's what gets that nice little strike at the bottom, is letting myself guide it, and the more that I start feeling this, what I want to start to feel is that the faster I start to pitch the club or throw the club from the top, the faster my hand is allowed to move with it, and that's the key.

We generally think of the golf swing as muscling this puppy, and we go to the top, and we're like, oh, turn your hips as fast as you can, or turn your shoulders, or fire your arms, or whatever it is.

The reality is, if you want to get the club back out in front of you, like the greats talk about, this has to take a nap.

This can't move that fast, because you'll never get your arms back out in front of you.

You'll never get the club back out in front of you.

You'll get stuck like you heard in Tiger talking in that clip there.

But if I'm not trying to power this with my arms, and instead I'm starting to feel this club have its own momentum, its own inertia, and the more that it has, the more that my hand becomes what I describe as weightless.

Then I can feel that my hand can move much faster without any tension.

I'm not trying, all I'm trying to do is just speed up this throw, and it's important to understand this is not with your thumb.

You're not going to the top and pushing against the shaft with your thumb.

First of all, the right hand, the trail hand, is where most of the throw occurs.

The left hand is relatively dumb in the golf swing.

It's doing some heavy lifting.

It's getting a flat left wrist to de-loft the face, but you're not really using it for power.

It's not in a very powerful position.

This is way more powerful, which again, we'll talk about in the second video.

But with this one, it's the last three fingers that you're really focusing on, and you're just trying to get a little pitch of the shaft to go that way.

And the faster you start to do this, the faster the club begins to move.

I'm not moving hard.

I'm not moving aggressive.

I'm not trying to turn my hips.

I'm not driving off the ground.

I'm not pushing off the ground.

I'm not turning my shoulders.

I'm not even turning my core.

I'm responding to the club having its own velocity and letting it do its thing.

And now this will start to help you understand why your golf swing feels like so much work, because you're not pitching the shaft and getting it to move.

You're not throwing it from the top.

You're probably trying to make it go that way whether it's your right arm, your left arm, your legs, your hips, whatever it is.

But you can see I'm starting to look like a pretty effortless golf swing.

And this is all completely relaxed.

It's not doing anything to provide any power really.

I'm just responding to this throwing motion.

And as this club starts to pick up speed, my hand gets lighter so I can just kind of focus on guiding the club and letting it rip through.

And as long as I got these release checkpoints, my logo pointing down, my left wrist fully released and that club face pointing more towards the ground, not back behind me, then I release the club fully and properly with that lead hand.

Now, as I begin to do this with a little bit more pace and a little bit more tempo and timing, it's not going to look like I'm casting the club.

But I'm going to tell you that's exactly what I'm going to feel.

So take a look.

I'm going to go to the top.

Now, it probably didn't look like I look like a 25 handicapper doing this, right?

But it's exactly what it felt like.

I felt like I went to the top.

I stopped with all this stuff and I just started to widen this angle.

And as I did that, my hand became lighter.

Once this club gets cast out into its own orbit, the hand is now free to move extremely fast without me trying to put any muscular effort into it at all.

Haven't you always wondered why certain golfers make it look so easy?

They produce so much speed or they can make a really short swing like Jon Rahm and produce so much speed so fast.

This isn't trickery.

This isn't voodoo.

This isn't mysticism.

It's simple mechanics.

And when you start creating speed early in the swing, you've got all this time to begin to accelerate the club.

And so you don't have to be in a rush.

Whereas if you're down here and you've got this much angle, you've got to get rid of that thing really, really quickly.

And it's much more difficult to time.

So you start building compensations into that.

When you look at Tiger swinging back in the day, he would make these little short wedge swings and then just have all of this crazy speed and have tons of distance with a short swing.

To do that, you've got to have speed early in the downswing.

Now the whole trick to you garnering this move and internalizing it and being able to feel it is becoming aware of it and sensitive to it.

The reason that you're trying to learn the golf swing through mechanics or 3D motion or just video, all of those things by themselves are helpful and useful, but they won't get you to the promised land.

As I showed in the intro video, Tiger Woods has been swimming since he's five years old.

And you can see at the top of his swing, the first thing he's doing is trying to widen that angle, get the club back out in front of him, which again is the opposite of holding lag.

He's trying to cast the club.

So at first, this may seem wildly counterintuitive.

I know even for me to think this way was counterintuitive for me.

But as I began to feel it, that's when all of the magic started to happen because then all of a sudden my body could relax.

And many of you know, my body's a complete wreck.

I've done more damage to it than you can imagine.

And I have countless lingering injuries.

So for me to be able to swing truly effortlessly for the rest of my life is extremely important to me.

I want to have distance as long as I can, but I don't want to work hard for it because it hurts.

It physically hurts my body.

So what I want you to really start to become aware of is being relaxed with your body and producing speed with your hands, Which, again, is the opposite of how I've thought about the swing in a lot of ways for many years, and how, I'm certain it's the opposite of how most of you think about the swing.

But once you start to get the feel of this, you're going to start to feel that just this little widening, casting the club out into its own orbit allows everything to move way faster.

It allows my hips, I'm not trying to move my hips.

I'm not trying to push off the ground.

I'm not trying to turn anything.

I'm just moving the club and my body as it stays relaxed, it naturally begins to move like a golf swing.

And that's why golfers like Vijay seeing Tiger Woods, all these guys who make it look truly effortless, this is how they're doing it.

So now let's understand how to put the trail hand back in there so that we can start doing this with some real speed.

And feel how all of this starts to tie together.

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Jordan
Hey there! Just getting started with this. I’m trying to find the first video about widening the lead wrist angle, but the video it takes me to is the second one about the trail angle. I.e. both the trail and lead options in the dropdown menu take you to the trail wrist. Thank you!
January 14, 2025
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Chuck
Should be fixed now give it a try
January 15, 2025
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Patrick
I have been having some amazing consistency with my fairway irons using this method in my last few rounds. Also getting a little more distance with less effort and only a very small handful of mishits
August 28, 2024
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Chuck
Awesome Patrick, keep us posted!
August 29, 2024
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Loren
I have been practicing this, inconsistently if I am honest, for a while now. I finally put it together and shot the best round I ever have. With that said, I used a 4i off the tee and played the entire round with irons only. Will I use the same "cast" at the top for woods and driver and change ball position? If you cover it in a video, let me know and I'll check it out just didn't see it. Thanks.
June 3, 2024
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Chuck
The swing is always the same for all clubs. Congrats on the great round!
June 3, 2024
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Mark
Sorry what I meant is that right forward has a tendency to want to roll over and shut face at impact close to ball even through I have always had lots of lag and held angle on way down till late
April 2, 2024
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Mark
I love the whole idea of releasing it early and letting wrists go but my main issue for years has been shutting the face at impact and my plane has always been good albeit a little flat and deep . Your follow through turn the left wrist right over to shut it but I am petrified of allowing that as mine is happening at impact often . I never flip upwards but looking at allowing the release with right hand the left hand looks so cupped past the ball . So how on earth do you hold it to bow at impact and then let it go without turning it over ? When I have tried to bow at impact in past I hook it wildly with even more shut face
April 2, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Mark, if you're flat and deep then there's your problem. You can't release the club correctly from there as that completely changes everything.
April 2, 2024
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Mark
This video focuses on grip pressure of 3 out of 10 only so you let club go and release from the top and on another video it shows the feeling with 3 fingers of right hand and middle 2 of left being the dominant ones. Then I hear you say in another video that one should grip it tightly like tiger did. These 2 comments are obviously opposites ? So what is it please , grip tight or soft?
April 1, 2024
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Chuck
Mark, both work. Tiger grips the club very tightly, Sam Snead very soft. Experiment with both to see which works best for you.
April 1, 2024
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Steven
Hi Chuck, Could you please clarify what seems to be a difference in widening angle of club and forearm in throwing from the top and the GOAT delivery position where their angle looks to be at or remain at 90 degrees at that point. Thanks!
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
Go back and watch the videos again as i discuss how this allows the hands to move faster and it wont actually look like you’re losing a ton of angle
March 8, 2024
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Steven
I’m sure I’m misunderstanding something obvious. I understand that in real time it won’t look like there is any significant loss of angle however it seems you are advocating for widening the angle as part of the throwing motion as also depicted in the lead photo of the video yet in the GOAT delivery position the angle is at or remains at 90 degrees which seems to indicate no change in angle at all from the top.
March 8, 2024
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Chuck
The movement of the cast is subtle as i discuss in the videos. If you look at the hackmotion data you can see the cast and just how subtle it is.
March 8, 2024
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Loren
This feels like a stupid question and perhaps I am just too stiff of a person but what do you mean by "guiding" the club on the way down? For me, it seems like when I try to bow my wrist, my grip tightens and when I "guide" I reduce the natural inertia.
February 22, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Loren, not a stupid question at all! This all happens extremely quickly so it's really a difficult thing to try and feel your way through the whole thing. Your goal is to feel like your hands aren't inhibited by the weight of the club. If you initiate with a slight cast a the top the hands should begin to feel like they can move down quickly with the clubhead rather than trying to forcibly pull the club head down. That's what you are trying to feel when I say "guided". It's more like them walking down the pathway together with the clubhead hanging behind slightly.
February 22, 2024
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Bernard
Chuck - Maybe just me needing clarity, or picking up different pieces of the videos to focus on, so hopefully this does not sound like a stupid question. I watched the YouTube video you released overnight and how you kept talking about not turning the shoulders, core, hips, etc. purely focusing on hand speed. I think I was going wrong as I was using my shoulder turn to swing the left hand to the top, whereas what I took from today's video is that you just swing the hand to the top and the body - shoulders, hips, etc. follow. Obviously I know you need to add in the lateral move too, but moving the left hand without focusing on the body really simplifies it in my mind, so is my new understanding correct?
February 22, 2024
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Chuck
HI Bernard, you are correct actually that the shoulders still have to turn to help move the arms like I discuss in the refining the backswing video. If you just swung the lead arm it would tend to end up deep and too long. If you turn well, you may only have to focus on the lead hand.
February 22, 2024
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Tassos
Chuck – Yesterday was my third day practicing this concept at the range and, although I have more work to do, it started to click. I was hitting my 7-iron 165 yards (which for me is a lot!) with minimal effort. A few questions: 1). Have you noticed that it is more difficult to maintain face control using this method? 2). I find it easier to bow my left wrist when I get to the top of my backswing (instead of doing it while coming down because everything is happening so fast). Is this OK? 3). For me, it works better when I try not to move laterally (i.e., when I stay over the ball), am I losing speed by doing this, and finally 4) can you use this method for chipping?
February 13, 2024
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Chuck
It should be easier to control the face as you are more aware of what your hands are doing. Flattening or bowing at the top yes is what you want to do. There is only a slight amount happening in the downswing but you can certainly do it earlier. You have to have lateral movement but you probably already have it. That’s why you feel like you’re staying more centered over the ball when you hit it better. As for short game, certainly the basic concepts are much the same.
February 13, 2024
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David Stephensen
A lot of the things you say really resonates with me, but I still can't get over the fact that it's quite contradictory to a lot of other videos on the site – maintaining lag, whipping the club (the wet towel), mostly using the lead arm and the trail arm being there for "support". Everything in this video is quite the opposite. How come?
February 8, 2024
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Chuck
As I said in the video, both ways of swinging the club work. You can look at someone like Sergio Garcia who has a lot of angle and Tiger as someone who has little. More than one way to skin a cat. This is specific to how Tiger and other greats swung the club
February 8, 2024
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Ron
So, the body responds correctly by proper use of the arms, wrists and hands?
February 7, 2024
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Ron
Chuck, I think I understand the correct way to do this because of how you explained it. Being an excellent communicator might be your best asset as a teacher. You have obviously put a ton of effort into this Goat program and the way you lay it out couldn’t be better, IMHO
February 7, 2024
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Chuck
If you understand how things are supposed to work, yes.
February 7, 2024
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Asle
When there's talk of increasing the W- angle quickly (from the top) - is that the same as widening the angle - which is a way of describing the throw which also is (a correct form of) casting? How about the RH release - is that also increasing the W-angle quickly? But if this happens from the top is there any thing more to throw in the hitting area/ any more W-angle to increase? Or is there something more in the release than this (already?) increased W-angle - maybe some additional rotational force? Or are these just more dumb questions?
February 4, 2024
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Chuck
Again, having a hard time following what you're saying, but I'll do my best. Well, reading it for 3rd time now, still not sure what you're asking, but it sounds like you're trying to dramatically over complicate things. Try and keep it simple, widening the angle is casting the club which is accelerating the club and both hands do it. Doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.
February 4, 2024
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Asle
Sorry that I can't ask questions in a better way. I think I understand the casting part. When that is done correctly, how does that effect what the RW does in the release thru the ball? My concern is that casting from the top is a kind of release(?)of the W's that perhaps makes the release at the bottom less effective or more difficult to do? Still not understandable? Maybe let Craig do the answering. He seems to get it.
February 4, 2024
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Chuck
Ya, I don't think you are understanding the entire concept. The release is happening from the top which allows the hands to move faster which actually delays the full release to a degree.
February 4, 2024
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Asle
I must admit that I was hung up by all the talk about Tiger's strong RH release,. If the real release is from the top it makes more sense to me...and problem solved.
February 4, 2024
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Chuck
He talks about how he feels his right hand in all shots, but not specifically when he feels it. But as you have seen from the other videos most of the pros start this process immediately and since the entire downswing happens in less than a quarter of a second it's near impossible for our brains to really know exactly when it is happening.
February 4, 2024
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Asle
I have to get this right. When I compare this with skipping a stone on water, the real release is from the RW at the end/bottom. This is in my mind different than the throw/cast from the top  regarding how the RW works. I don't want to do all the releasing from the top. There has to be something left for the RW to do at the bottom releasewise. It's the active RW release thru the hitting area that stands for 2/3 of the speed, isn't it? So that's the important part. The throw from the top is more about getting there without making a mess out it - like OTT etc. My hope is to get this throw from the top ingrained as a feel and thereby get the real release going on at the bottom and that all of this happens by itself to perfection. But I must never compromise the active RW release at the bottom, for that's where it really happens, although it begins at the top and it can be seen as a whole. This is my thinking about about -  even though I'm the only who understands what I'm saying. I hope I am on the right track..
February 5, 2024
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Chuck
All of that is happening in barely more than the blink of an eye, so, try not to overthink it. You'll note that most pros have the right wrist still bent back at impact so there may be less release happening there than you think, but yes, it should be releasing through impact.
February 5, 2024
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David
Hi chuck - even though it sounds odd, I agree with the notion that this builds on rather than replaces/falsifies the more classic DEAD/AXIOM method. It’s hard to know for sure, but it seems like the body of experienced golfers knows what to do, in terms of getting in the right positions & getting out of the way. I feel like I was inching closer to this change of swing approach when trying to get rid of my long term under the plane, too in-to-out by focusing simply on getting my hands closer to my body during impact. The only way I found todo that was to feel like I moved the club’s pivot point (ie where the butt end moves from pointing over your left to your right shoulder) sooner, which I could only achieve by initiating what felt like more of a flip during impact - so am thinking that the flip is a kind of late cast… what do you think?
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
That might work, but seems like it would lead to an actual flip if taken too far. I simply think throwing it from the top gets the club right back out in front and everything else takes care of itself to a degree if you know what your hands should be doing at impact. As for how this all ties together, in my mind the DEAD Drill taught you the positions, the AXIOM was my first attempt to make those positions happen natural by feel and the GOAT Code was the missing link to how the greats actually did it in their swings.
February 3, 2024
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Diane
Chuck This is totally eye-opening! I'm not trying to incorporate it into my swing just yet as I need to focus on the earlier GOAT instructions first re shifting to lead side etc. But I tried this yesterday in the garden, and the club really swooshes through the grass! But with everything else I'm learning it would be too much for the brain just now. I think if I get the earlier steps working first, then it will be natural to add the wrist widening as the next part of the correct sequence. Over the years the DEAD Drill then the Axiom taught me the target shape of the swing and ironed out the absolute worst swing faults and all this was necessary in order for the GOAT theory (sequencing) to make sense. But it does make perfect sense and you can tell it does because it 'feels' right. You've broken it down perfectly from the very start of the swing until the end. I've even tried the swinging the club up the 'wall' at the end, and yes it does look good! Huge Thanks Chuck for all your efforts on our behalf!
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
You’re welcome!
February 2, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Watching again and again. Now I finally understand and feel what is meant with "Let the club do the work!" Thanks! Marcel
February 1, 2024
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Chuck
Yes! Work smarter, not harder!
February 1, 2024
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Francis
Chuck, I understand this all about feeling the way the swing feels. I've always said that if I could be in Tiger's body for 5 minutes and feel how he swings, I'd be able to swing like him. But, it seems like the answer is actually doing exactly what I've been trying to stop doing for the last 20 years, CASTING from the top! Is this correct? If this is what you're saying, then I guess my problem is holding the club way to tight! Like 10 out of 10 ????. Please let me know if this is correct. Let me know what you think ????.
February 1, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Francis, yes, I'm going to do another video using some tour pros as an example of this for this weekend to help make it more clear. But the catch with casting "incorrectly" is often the hands don't move - often due to too much tension. The hands must move fast to "stay ahead" of the cast a bit, if you will. Often, golfers cast the club hard at the top and their hands stay there. The harder you throw, the faster the hands must move. And to move fast, muscles must be more relaxed.
February 1, 2024
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Francis
Cool. Relaxing my hands will be a challenge for me, but I'm looking forward to giving it a try! Too cold to hit balls here. But I will start working on the relaxed hands and arms. Well done my friend I will keep you posted on my progress !
February 1, 2024
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Brian
Thanks Chuck. This kind of reminds me of some of the teachings by Peter Croker. https://crokergolfsystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/golfdigestarticle1.pdf Going to work on it Brian
January 31, 2024
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Jeff
that is what came to my mind. I was trying to find the book which I have yesterday, but can't seem to located it. Maybe in attic.
February 2, 2024
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Chuck
I think I had heard the name but never knew anything about him. We're on the same page with the throw I believe. His images show a super static body, but maybe just an illustration thing...
February 1, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Chuck, in terms of swinger or hitter would you say that this way you are trying to bring accros is the ultimate way to be a swinger and the more you use your body ( big muscles) you are moving towards being a hitter? Thanks for helping! Marcel
January 31, 2024
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Chuck
Here is a reply I just posted in the WGW video re: the same question: Thanks Brian. I have thought a lot of swingers vs hitters. In my mind, while you certainly can divide them in half, I really think most of the GOATs were a combination of both. Throwing with the trail hand is what sped up the swinging of the lead arm. So, for me, I don't really differentiate between them anymore.
January 31, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Like your approach Chuck, that every golfers has element from both swinger and hitter. Some are more towards swingers others to the hitter group.
January 31, 2024
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Paul
Chuck, check out this video starting at the 5:46 mark. Rory is talking to Micah Morris (Golf youtube influencer) about feels to get the club unstuck. Micah earlier in the video says he struggles getting stuck. Rory prescribes the exact re-widing move from the top that you are teaching. Amazing stuff. Keep it up Chuck! https://youtu.be/H7o8j4Or_aI?si=jexhJzvvaF47wSmN
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
Nice! Yep, that guy is powering it super aggressively with his body. Enjoy it while you're young buddy!
January 30, 2024
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Scott
If we're working on the C4 phases and DEAD drill and should we continue with that or switch to these feels? Seems like the DEAD is more related to having the body drive the movements and this is having more focus on the arms and having the body naturally react. Both make sense, but I like this GOAT stuff as it seems like it might be easier to execute.
January 30, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Scott, the GOAT Code is a culmination of all my word, DEAD, AXIOM, C4 (although C4 is more about ball striking mastery than mechanics, so they go hand in hand). So, this about tying them altogether in one simple feel so that all those other things happen naturally that I talked about before.
January 30, 2024
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Ken
Any chance to see the left-only and then this intro with the right hand in DTL view?
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
I can try and add that in some future videos. The positions etc from dtl are honestly not important. If you dont turn your body the club will go where it’s supposed to line you see in my swing. Trying to get the club to go where I wanted it to doing drills led me down many wrong paths as the swing is too dynamic and fast to do certain things in slow mo drills
January 30, 2024
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Ken
Chuck - thank you, and I got some good DTL views in the later series videos. I'll echo what the others are saying (all super positive) and tell you that a quick self-video after just a few practice swings and I actually look like a real golfer. Always knew that a nice-looking swing probably translates to better shots than an ugly one! Another old guy with back/body issues here, so excited to see what comes of this on the range/course (also, watching slow-motion videos of pros & talented friends completely backs up your "don't focus on lag" admonition and dispels a near-impossible task I've been overly focused on). You da man!
January 30, 2024
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David
Genius understanding and even better in the simplicity of the explanation! Can't wait to try to apply to my own swing. Thank you very much!!!
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
Wow thank you!
January 29, 2024
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Francisco
This is so much better than I could have expected. I have a right hip injury from basketball and it hurts anytime I golf. This will be a game changer and life changer. Thank you do much Chuck!
January 29, 2024
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Chuck
Yes brother! Changed my life too! My spine and hip are so wrecked from two wheel crashes and now I feel absolutely nothing!
January 29, 2024

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