Swing Like the GOAT

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Here it is! This is your chance to become the golfer that you've dreamed of. To hit the ball like you know you can. Farther. Straighter. And with less effort than ever before. If you need help learning how to throw for speed, you can get the AXIOM Power Program at https://AXIOMgolf.com

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Paul
I performed this swing at the range today and wow was it effective. After about 30 balls it became almost automatic to the point that if I consciously threw with my rt hand I would hook. I found the interlocking grip worked better to tame the right hand from being too aggressive. The distance for my 8 iron was about 15 yrs further. The ball contact was far superior to my old swing. I never thought I could get an arm driven swing to work, much less one that gives more distance and requires less effort. One question: What adjustments should I make if I start to get hooky? My bad shot is usually a hook before this change. I had to be careful my club initial position was not hooded and I was square to the target. Is it just a grip, or ball position adjustment? My brain liked the throwing a little too much. Thanks Chuck!!
April 2, 2024
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Chuck
Two things. first, make sure the lead wrist is not bowed at the top. Two, double check your grip against the grip video. Bonus #3 - make sure you're getting into GDP. If your trail arm is moving into internal rotation early you're toast.
April 3, 2024
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Paul
Thanks Chuck, my swing on video passes the tests you list (lead wrist flat, GDP, grip). I think I was just too aggressive with the throwing motion (too much rotation). It seems unreal that this type of swing was so secret all these years (it was there but none dared to embrace it, sans Mike Austin). Its the antithesis of modern golf instruction. It tells you to cast, swing with your arms letting the body follow, and hold on firmly. I know there are several ways to slay the golf swing dragon, but it's mind boggling that this method was hidden from view so long. You have no idea how hard I've tried to make a body driven swing. I could just not turn my arms off. Thanks again, for bringing this to light. Intuitive, simple, powerful, accurate, brilliant!
April 3, 2024
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Chuck
It's very scary to consider new ideas in the golf swing as a coach, and very risky. Most aren't willing to dip a toe into unknown waters for fear of damaging their reputation. Me, I just care about getting down to the truth and having a golf swing that not only hits amazing shots, but feels amazing to boot. What you just said perfectly sums up the GOAT Code in such a succinct way, I couldn't have done it better myself. This is what I'm after.
April 3, 2024
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Paul
Hi Chuck, When I do this swing at a leisurely pace, by swing speed is way down (62 mph 7 iron). To get it up to the speed of my seven iron in my old swing (77 mph), I really need to push with my right hand/arm to the point it hurts my shoulder. I look in video and I have pretty good lag, nice wide arcs, and the proper delivery position. I am not helping the swing in any way with my body, it's just going for the ride. Where is this effortless speed? Am I missing something? Paul Paul
April 6, 2024
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Chuck
You're definitely missing something, probably not clearing with the left side of the body and just throwing your right arm at it.
April 6, 2024
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Paul
Hey Chuck, Hey Chuck, I've had two swing reviews and now I am more confused than ever. The reviews only included items I need to change and/or I am doing wrong. There was no mention of a single item I do right and what I could use as a basis to make change. Consequently, items I was doing well (like stance and distance from ball) changed in the second review and now they have been added to my list of things I have to change. Again, no mention of anything positive. Am I to assume it's all sh*t? Hence, the source of my confusion. Also, there is no feedback loop to the instructors. I have no way to follow up anything (questions/comments) with them. Got to say, I'm disappointed so far. Paul
April 18, 2024
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Anthony (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Paul, You have a good swing and you are a good golfer, indicated by your 12 handicap. You had questions specifically pertaining to the goat code, and I answered them for you. I did want to give you an overall view of your swing, and show you how your body moves, and how that can effect your sequencing. If you want to drop a comment on the community or ask a question, I’m happy to follow-up with you. I do have email if you want to drop me an email as well. I’m here to help my friend
April 18, 2024
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Paul
Yes you’re right. I was trying to force too steep of a swing and that was putting my arm in a poor geometry position. This was robbing me of power. No issues at range today except tendency to over cook the draws. My bad shots before this were always left. So I have no issues closing the face. I’ll send in my swing to have one of the teachers evaluate. TY
April 6, 2024
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Paul
Hey Chuck, I've had two swing reviews and now I am more confused than ever. The reviews only included items I need to change and/or I am doing wrong. There was no mention of a single item I do right and what I could use as a basis to make change. Consequently, items I was doing well (like stance and distance from ball) changed in the second review and now they have been added to my list of things I have to change. Again, no mention of anything positive. Am I to assume it's all sh*t? Hence, the source of my confusion. Also, there is no feedback loop to the instructors. I have no way to follow up anything (questions/comments) with them. Got to say, I'm disappointed so far. Paul
April 18, 2024
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Jeffrey
I like the videos for this new series. But when I feel that hard wrist driven release I tend to miss left. My path is like +0.7 while doing this so I’m not over the top, but the wrist action seems to close the face too hard and lead to a big left miss. It really seems like a cool idea. Any thoughts? Thanks again!
March 29, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Jeff, there are a lot of videos in the series so keep digging in. You're not trying to slam the face shut with the trail hand, just add speed and sense of control. Check out the Rahmbo Drill to get a better sense of this.
March 29, 2024
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Jeffrey
Agree. I went through every video now and thought about them. Then implemented the ideas and I have to say it works. I’ll point out a few things that were really ground breaking for me. 1. Realizing that the trail arm of pros is actually extended a decent amount at top of backswing (I didn’t know that. I wasn’t 90+ but seeing its around 60 was helpful). 2. Tempo. I had a relatively slow backswing. But have been working towards a quicker move. I guess I think before you do that you better have the swing sequence right, or at least close to right. But if you get closer to one of those 3:1 ratios it’s beneficial. Every pro is so much faster than most amateurs. 3. I’ve argued with some really good pro golfers about the point of almost feeling a slight casting motion. I actually thought about this before seeing your videos. Do you think you can also feel that by creating / minimizing the wrist set entirely at the top of backswing? I think a feeling of zero wrist set at top gets the same feel as the slight cast feel. 4. And finally (!), I think that GDP idea is quite good. Thanks again for your help. Best, Jeff
April 1, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Jeff, thanks for the feedback. You don't need a ton of wrist set per se', but you do need to set it correctly. Take a look at the video I posted this morning on Youtube that will help you with the wrist movement and how they produce speed.
April 1, 2024
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Andrew
The GOAT videos have really helped me with my irons but what/which video best depicts how you would apply GOAT Code to your driver or woods?
March 17, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Andrew, glad it's helping! The swing is the same for every club in the bag. If you're struggling with the driver it simply means there are issues that you're doing with every club it's just the driver is the "truth teller" and the irons can let you get away with more mistakes.
March 17, 2024
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J
I watched this video and the Venkatesh video friday and took it to the course saturday and sunday. before i had a quick jerky swing and it was so smooth this weekend. i felt like i was barely swinging. Saturday shot 84. Sunday +1 on front (fell apart on back +9) finishing with a 80. weather was chilly so ball was not flying well. can't wait for warm weather to see how much distance i gain! appreciate the videos!!
March 11, 2024
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Chuck
You're welcome!
March 11, 2024
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RJ
In terms of speed, does this release produce more speed than the throw from the top? Or are they comparable?
February 28, 2024
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Chuck
The release speed is really all in the rotation of the wrists which is the same across the board unless you are trying to swing like Dustin Johnson. I'm working on a video on this now and will cover exactly where the speed comes from soon
February 29, 2024
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Ronald
Would you get the same results using the left hand release but adding some power at the bottom with the left hand like a back hand tennis shot? I used to do the right hand release I get power but lose accuracy and with my irons I lose angle of attack and hit at AOA of zero or one or two up. Will I get the same power eventually from justlead side
February 28, 2024
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Chuck
You can use this action as long as you don't overdo and start to flip before impact. The trail hand motion is more subtle than what you were trying to do with it and it is also critical the hands and arms are in the right position just before impact which I'm going to talk about in my next video.
February 28, 2024
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Jeremy
How do we know or find your next video chronologically?
March 14, 2024
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Clayton (Certified RST Instructor)
they can usually be found in order in the GOAT code section on the website but if not you can search it and they come up from start to finish
March 15, 2024
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Jeremy
Got it!
March 17, 2024
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Ronald
I get it I did this naturally this cool thanks
February 28, 2024
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Rick
Hey Chuck, can you explain why this trail hand release exercise is posted under "GOAT Theory" but not part of "The GOAT Code"? More specifically, I'm seeing two different approaches presented under GOAT instruction - this video has one isolate the TRAIL hand then add LEAD hand while keeping same movement, and "The GOAT Code" has one isolate the LEAD hand then add TRAIL hand while keeping same movement. To me, each could have a person working toward a different feel. Your thoughts?
February 7, 2024
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Chuck
Theory was just that - theory. The GOAT Code is the formula that I found that creates the results that I was looking for. Theory was me working through ideas.
February 7, 2024
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Rick
Thanks Chuck, knowing this will help me better apply your GOAT methodology, which I believe is going to be a great fit for me. Appreciate what you do.
February 7, 2024
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Chuck
If you just work through the GOAT Code, in my mind, that is getting as close to everything you really need to know while keeping it as simple as possible - that was my goal anyway!
February 7, 2024
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Paul
Hi Chuck, The entire release process concept has been on my radar fo many months. Loving your take on it. Played yesterday and used left hand take-away and right hand release. My concentration was on the pressure point on the RH index finger on the grip / shaft. I was hitting irons and rescues really well with a feel of arms just dropping from the top. However, although I was hitting driver and 3 wood well off the tee (contact was solid) but I was hitting big tall fades all day. With irons and rescues the mental concept is of the index finger pressure point passing just in front of legs - this mental picture doesn't appear to work for driver. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
February 5, 2024
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Chuck
Since it's with the longer clubs, my first guess is you're trying to turn your body for power and that is leaving the face open.
February 5, 2024
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Paul
You could be on to something there - Like lots of people I've long worked on the principle of firing the hips into a squat from the top, stalling and then turning as the club releases. Probably just need to "un-learn" a bunch of stuff. I might also try slowing the left arm to allow the right more time to close over - so stall the left arm into impact to allow the right hand to fully release the clubhead through impact. Interesting.
February 5, 2024
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Asle
The axiom power program - where is that to be found?
January 10, 2024
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Clayton (Certified RST Instructor)
Don't be afraid to reach out with other things if you want a faster response or more ideas to a certain subject of the swing you are hoping to study! What're you hoping to study and work on nowadays?
March 15, 2024
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Asle
Found it
January 10, 2024
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Brian
Hi Chuck, love this video again. If you focus on the right hand release swish at the bottom do you still need to do the elbow to the pocket in external rotation? Or does that just happen naturally from that? Is that elbow to pocket move staying external to that point, hand to the right knee, just helpful to bring this into your swing when you have two hands on the club?
November 28, 2023
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Chuck
For some focusing on just the right hand will be enough if they move their body correctly
November 28, 2023
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Loveneet
Chuck demonstration is brilliant. Is the takeaway and backswing similar to 5 min series of takeaway and backswing? I want to swing like Tiger. What’s the next step for me? Thanks
November 26, 2023
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Chuck
Take a look at the video I'm posting today and the one I posted on Sunday
November 28, 2023
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Jonathan
Chuck, do you feel 100% right hand in the takeaway/wind up too? I feel more on plane when the right hand is active in my backswing.
November 22, 2023
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Chuck
For most they will especially if their left was overactive and tended to force the club inside
November 26, 2023
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Daniel
I'm new to golf (5 1/2 months), and just started working through the C4 program (almost done with Phase 1) and I'm curious if you recommend exploring this technique with new golfers. I put in the time and have been working with a PGA professional who teaches lead side technique. I've seen success, but struggle with distance and mechanical swing thoughts. According to Arccos, I am an 8.7 handicap through 27 rounds, but that is because I play almost exclusively an 1100y 9-hole par 3 course rated at 35.5. I'm saved more by my chipping and putting, but hate reaching for 3-wood on the 200 yard hole and a hybrid on the 172 yard hole. When I've played larger courses, I really struggle with GiR. Because my dispersion has tightened, should I stay the course of C4 and on-course lessons with the PGA professional, or would you recommend I explore this method for a new, but hungry player? My coach keeps telling me the distance will come but I'm impatient. Appreciate your perspective!
November 13, 2023
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Chuck
You should be experiencing much more distance now. I have a new video coming out in the next week or so that should get you moving with more speed immediately.
November 21, 2023
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Atle
Could you elaborate a bit more on Axiom and the counter torque - especially how the "getting off the merry go round" match the feel of sliding right foot backwards? In the Axiom I feel a forward (target direction/12 o'clock) move, or force if you like, when shifting to the big toe. Should that force/move be more directed behind me/ 9 'clock to achieve the counter torque effect?
November 10, 2023
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Chuck
Think about the force vector from the right big toe, what direction is it moving? Back behind you. If the foot slips or is light, it will drop behind you.
November 21, 2023
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RJ
Do you recommend overspeed training (like super speed golf) in conjunction with this drill to gain more club head speed?
November 6, 2023
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Clayton (Certified RST Instructor)
I agree with Chuck. Speed training can be great buuuut if you really want to learn the basics of speed training you can look up videos in the C4 training model like the throw the ball drill and the flipping of the club upside down drill to understand the speed portion of the golf swing
March 15, 2024
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Chuck
I have no experience or knowledge of it, so can't recommend. In general, speed training should be fine as long as you don't get injured.
November 6, 2023
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sjahari
Chuck: This is a total game changer for me. I have been doing everything with Rotary for 4 years now and until this video just continuing to struggle. This gives me the feel I need. That swish through the ball. Yesterday I shot 81 and it was solid, not flukey. I feel that I will be playing in the 80's now. As you say, I need to focus on that one single thought/feel of the swish that happens when it is right. Everything else just fits right in.I am solid already in Dead Drill and Axiom, and this completes the picture. I am still struggling with the ball going right, or a fade/slice but I know that is about letting the right hand turn over at the end. Thanks again!!
November 5, 2023
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Chuck
Awesome Sjahari! Thanks for the feedback!
November 6, 2023
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Asle
Is this RH release approach enough on its own or can it be combined with the Axiom to get a "perfect" feel based swing?
November 2, 2023
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Chuck
It must be combined with the AXIOM, they are really one in the same
November 3, 2023
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Earl
What grip should I use (weak, strong, neutral)?
November 1, 2023
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Chuck
Covered in the grip video, but you can use a slightly weaker grip as you learn to release more
November 3, 2023
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Priyan
Hi Chuck, This is great! I feel like I can hit the ball straight consistently. How can I get a personal instruction with you? I live in Colorado (Boulder Area). Priyan G
October 31, 2023
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Chuck
Hi there. You can email christina@rotaryswing.com and she will get you in.
October 31, 2023
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Brandon
I can definitely relate to release with the right hand over the left. If I am just getting into phase 2, should I try to incorporate this in the release or continue with the program first? Thanks
October 31, 2023
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Chuck
Up to you. Wont hurt with experimenting a but with it early on
October 31, 2023
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Brandon
Paid more attention today and realized that right dominate release is what I have been doing all along. When I tried focusing on lead hand it did not work out very well. Thanks for the quick response
October 31, 2023
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Bill
What is the GOAT? Is it an acronym, if so for what?
October 30, 2023
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Chuck
Greatest of all time
October 31, 2023
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Asle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx-wrprpIoI
October 30, 2023
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
That's awesome Asle. Thanks for sharing
October 30, 2023
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Asle
Jackie Burke Jr: “Your hands are on the club, why don’t you use them? There has to be a throw in your swing, use your hands to throw it. Put a throw in your swing and your body will work perfectly beneath you.”
November 3, 2023
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Jim
Hey Chuck. I posted the first comment on this video and was able to go to the range. It was awesome!!! 7 iron was about 180 (20 yards more) and my driver was 270 (was about 230). Thanks again and keep up the great work. I appreciate all the time you put in to making us better. Maybe we can get to 300 buddy. Thanks.
October 27, 2023
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Chuck
40 yards with the driver!!!! That’s awesome man! What’s it feel like to play from there?!?! Thats line 6 fewer clubs into the green when you add in picking up 20 with the irons!!
October 28, 2023
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adam
Wow! Wow! Wow! Watched the last few videos on a work trip and was pretty skeptical. Went right to the range when I got home this afternoon thinking only of ‘swatting’ with the right wrist and results we fantastic. Can’t give accurate distances because was hitting into a headwind in 40* weather but ball consistently riffled off the club face with so little effort! I am so excited but one question- do you use a fairly firm grip with right hand or light grip (both seemed to work).
October 27, 2023
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Chuck
I have been using a relatively firm grip with the right hand. Much more than normal because if i were throwing a ball i would have to hold onto it firmly to get any speed
October 27, 2023
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adam
Great. Can’t wait for tomorrow and another chance to try it!
October 27, 2023
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Kade
Chuck, another great one with a simple explanation! Especially showing it in a lesson format where you also touch on some of the basic mechanics to assist with shallowing the club and posture... GOLD! Your thoughtfulness is much appreciated and shows how hard you work to make it easy for us weekend warriors and seasoned golfers alike to pick up the club and shoot our lowest scores can't be thanked enough! This wrist move and power program has added 15 yards to every club in my bag. As an aging golfer who would get injured/sore using the lead side "pull" too much (I know, but I liked to swing hard and didn't know how to use my legs back then), I used to hit my 7 iron 170 in my 20s, and can now hit it 175-180 in my 40s using the right side after hitting balls for 2 hours with no issues... If I could hug you I would! One question (of course) when I video from face one, my follow through now folds my wrist quickly post impact. So instead of the club staying more extended through the follow through pose (Tiger, Collin, Nelly, Jessica), I now have a reverse "L" where my right arm is straight when parallel to the ground and pointing at the target but the club is pointed at the sky. However, impact position is good, arms are in a triangle and club is straight 45 degrees after impact... Should I be concerned with this if I have good contact, ball flight and shape? Throwing my wrists too much? Just get used to the new swing form? Other than it looking freaking awesome when it looks like you're at full extension? Thank you thank you thank you!
October 27, 2023
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Chuck
Hi Kade, thanks for the kind words! There's a couple things that can cause you to lose the extension in the follow through. One is too aggressive with the wrists as you mentioned. Two is not swinging what feels like more in to out as this will cause the arms to collapse early as they work across the body. The feel is more throwing out to right field with the hand and then club path squares up very late as the wrist is fully released - but the feel is still way out to right field and that will get the arms fully extended. But, as you noted, if you're hitting the ball the way you want, not a big concern, but it is a clue that something is going on in the release that is inhibiting the natural extension you should be having.
October 27, 2023
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Kade
This makes sense! Should I feel like my shoulders and hand path are more inside on the takeaway to help me shallow it more to go out to right field? When I try to swing out to right field my hands feel and look like they are coming way under plane and I sometimes block it right or top it. More throw or roll-over with the wrists and rotation without being too aggressive will help that? Thanks again!
October 27, 2023
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Chuck
You may be getting too much secondary tilt if you're dropping too far under the plane, so I'd check that first. If your spine is ok, then you may be adding too much pull with the left shoulder/hand that is keeping the club from releasing. If your left hand is too far past the ball at impact this is the likely culprit of the blocks.
October 27, 2023
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Kade
I do have that issue with my hands pressed forward, sometimes past my thigh at impact. I'll work on keeping my left arms/wrists quiet and right shoulder back more. Thank you again for everything!
October 27, 2023
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John
Chuck: Thanks so much for the GOAT. I watched the “should I switch or not video and finally “got it”… slowing down the hands so that the release can happen when it’s supposed to. I’m not “there” yet but this was a real epiphany for me. John
October 26, 2023
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Chuck
This is a huge one that most never feel. Once you feel it for the first time, it's addictive!
October 27, 2023
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Chetan
Chuck... I have watched the Venkatesh video four to five times now and everything he mentions rings true for me as well. Just simply trying it with the new feel of releasing the club has already gained me 15 yards on my 7-iron. From 150, is easily 165 to 170 now!!! The problem is consistency which will come with time. My question is, where do I start with these programs to follow a similar journey as Venkatesh has had... Do you suggest subscribing to the rotary swing website or simply just going to the axiomgolf.com program? I'm on a trial program with rotary swing but I feel that you have advanced the philosophy of goat theory beyond what rotary swing teaches.
October 26, 2023
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Chuck
Hi Chetan, all the new stuff regarding this pattern will be on RotarySwing.com for sure. The axiomgolf.com website is really just for the throwing program to get instant speed, proper plane and path. If you understand the throwing motion really well, you won't need it.
October 27, 2023
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Johnny
Chuck - it looks incredibly simple. It looks like your right elbow bends early in the backswing (to give that throwing action). In previous videos you have mentioned that we should try to keep the right arm as straight as possible in the backswing because the right arm is the governor of width, and width is one of the three power sources. In the Dead Drill and C4 bootcamp course materials, you state that the right arm should barely be visible at the top of the backswing. With this "new" throwing motion technique, is it now okay to bend the right arm immediately during the backswing?
October 26, 2023
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Chuck
I still try to keep my right arm exactly the same as before, it's just me getting used to the feeling of it at the moment. Tiger was probably the best of all time at keeping that right arm straight deep into the backswing.
October 26, 2023
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Beno
Hi Chuck, I have a question if you please: even if the player keeps the wrists loose and soft, the movement of the wrists (uncock, whether the lead hand or trail hand, or both hands) is passive or active in the downswing, i.e., the player lets the centrifugal force act to release the wrists before impact, or is It a voluntary release movement of the player towards the ball? Yours, Beno Lucki, São Paulo, Brasil
October 26, 2023
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Chuck
With a lead side release it’s quite passive. With trail side it’s quite active
October 26, 2023
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Scott
Interesting. I can really whip it with my right hand only, but adding my left hand feels awkward and slows me way down.
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
That is typical if you have been overusing the left incorrectly. You have to feel that it’s not even there to avoid impeding the right.
October 26, 2023
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Beno
Chuck Quinton is GOAT. Pure and simple. Unbeatable! Congratulations.
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
Thank you! Hope this helps!
October 25, 2023
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Nicholas
Wow, this is amazing! I was working the axiom power program, but this has simplified it a ton. I haven't done a ton of work and haven't used it on the range or course yet so I don't have any numbers to confirm, but I have done some filming hitting balls into my net and I can see a huge difference. I am no longer getting steep and feel like I can't swing steep anymore! It's amazing because it's just simpler! If I prioritize releasing my trail wrist everything just feels simple! Like I said I don't have numbers to confirm, but it feels (and looks) much faster and smoother! I'm looking forward to testing it on the course this weekend!
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
Hell ya! Let me know how it goes on the course!
October 25, 2023
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Todd
Do you still want to keep the right arm straight on the takeaway with this technique?
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
Yep. All the basic fundamentals stay the same
October 25, 2023
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Nick
Chuck, I did your DEAD drill, and tried to become lead side dominant in my golf swing, and when I'm conscious about it, I play my best golf. So the DEAD drill really helped. But it's consistency that I get frustrated with. I have an over-the-top swing, granted, nowhere as bad as it used to be.. I'm too R.hand dominant and I'm often fighting myself to swing easy,.. more body and less hand, but it's tough, I didn't play as much golf this year and all of my bad habits came thru again and consistency was a big problem Do you think this drill would help me fix my over-the-top swing? The Right hand throwing motion seems to be right up my alley, but I don't know, it seems like I will be re-learning again, which would create more inconsistency. I did some of the Axiom program but then stopped because I was more entrenched in the DEAD drill at that time. I took lessons once, years ago, I'm seriously considering taking them again, perhaps with you as well. I'm so frustrated.
October 24, 2023
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Chuck
If you're over the top, that's the first thing you must fix or everything in your swing will always lead to inconsistency because you'll lack power and try to make up for it by swinging more over the top. Both patterns shallow the club, just in very different ways. It is much easier to shallow the club with a right hand throw for most people and is very fast and easy to learn for most. As you saw, I took two mid handicaps and in 2 days had them hitting it tour distances and on plane. With the lead side that might take 2 months for these same golfers.
October 25, 2023
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Ronald
I am very interested in The Goat Theory and intend to try it out. Can you tell me where I can find your instruction on The Throwing motion mechanics? Can’t seem to locate it. Thanks again
October 24, 2023
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Chuck
It's at https://AXIOMgolf.com
October 24, 2023
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Ronald
Hi Chuck. Thanks for your speedy reply. Is this available under my existing subscription anywhere or do I need to purchase the $79 webinar? Thanks
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
It is a separate purchase
October 25, 2023
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Greg
Under phase 4 there is Axiom, with 7 videos. Is this different from the link above?
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
Yes it is a different program focused specifically on how to throw for speed.
October 25, 2023
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Greg
Not to be a pain, but I just bought the Rotary Swing stuff about a month ago. I have completed Phase 1 and am starting Phase 2. But now it seems a different direction maybe better? I guess my question is how to proceed and how does the RS stuff fit in if we are moving to this other method. By the way, I have played some tennis and a lot of squash when I was younger and always wondered why those motions did not help me golfing. But now I understand they are helping and the motion seems to be exactly the same.
October 27, 2023
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Chuck
Hi Greg, everything you're doing in the phases will help you no matter what. This is more of a preference - do you feel more comfortable with the throwing motion as being your primary source of power or a more balanced body lead arm blend. As I stated, I've just found it much faster to get golfers to make huge gains in distance and getting on plane with the trail side than lead but both get you to the same end point.
October 27, 2023
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Matt
Hi Chuck- I believe on one of the videos you mentioned after focusing on this you have difficulties now fading the ball. If you want to hit a fade into a back right pin, what would you change or feel to get that ball to cut? Are you letting your shoulders take over a little more but knowing that the ball will travel less so you need to calculate that or are you not firing the right wrist through hard enough? Lastly, I am curious how Craig is handling this new theory because watching some of his videos he mentioned how hard he worked to become lead side dominant. Is converting over this method now? I am going to try this out myself as I started to focus on the power program, but I needed to get these wrist drills b/c I think most of my problem has been how to use that right wrist correctly. As i have mentioned in another post I am working the power program into my junior golfer but him being 10 he uses shoulders a lot so this will be quite a different feeling for him for sure. Matt
October 24, 2023
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Chuck
I think Craig will stick with lead side. I would've too but I don't have a choice because of the damage I've done to my left hand. As I get more comfortable with this I'm sure I will just feel a tiny bit of pull or holding the face open with the left hand to hit a fade, but right now the right arm is requiring all my focus so I'll just hit it straight for the time being because it's really easy to hit it straight.
October 24, 2023
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Matt
Ah interesting, I'm curious as to why you would stay lead side if your hand was not damaged. Do you see more benefits in that versus this right side? For me I tried it out tonight and it definitely feels different. I tried even doing this with my 60* to see if I get more distance with that but not so much. I need to really train my right wrist and how to unload way better than I'm doing now. But I'm definitely curious for my son who is way more talented than me and getting him down the proper path for long term and eventually get to competitive college golf hopefully one day as he wants that.
October 24, 2023
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Chuck
I wouldn’t have switched because it felt so effortless. That made it fun for me as i loved that feeling and it was easy for me. But I dedicated a lot of time to understanding it and teaching myself that move. What i have seen after 30 years of teaching is right hand throw is just so much faster and easier to learn by a magnitude of 10 for the average golfer. They can truly hit the ball longer and straighter immediately when i teach this in person and in just a couple days. That’s game changing for them and i cant do that in 2 days with a lead side swing for most golfers because they are making so many unnatural and weak moves that we have to spend a ton of time correcting that because lead side mechanics are more demanding as its more of an unnatural move. Simple but demanding meaning you have to do them correctly to have power. The same is true with the trail side but i can teach all of those mechanics to the point of taking a typical golfer and getting him to hit it pga tour distances in two days. That’s a huge win in my book.
October 24, 2023
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Matt
Ok that makes sense. If you were teaching a young junior golfer would you go down lead side or kind of blend the two? The biggest thing in trying to work out of him is getting up on that right toe which gets hips so open and shoulders pretty open which I think is normal for juniors because it's a strength issue. But I think this axiom power program is good to try and work that out. My thought is to go that route and than when he's stronger maybe start to get to lead side if he keeps on the track he's at right now. He's a 5.1 handicap at 10 so he's got some skills we are working with.
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
If I was teaching someone new I'd almost definitely teach them right arm first, balance it with the left because it's simply so much faster to get real power, then everything can be balanced after they have power.
October 25, 2023
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Matt
Thanks Chuck, this makes sense. I think i am on the right path with him than. I use everything I learn from the site and use that to coach him. He definitely is longer than most kids his age, but I feel he's losing some because of the shoulders opening up so much with those hips. We can dial back more left hand in control once he masters this throwing. For me last night it definitely felt really different using and only focusing on that right hand. I had mixed results but overall they all mainly went straight with my 8 iron. Some I had pop out to around 170 yards which I am usually 160-165 with that club. I am hoping that 8 stretches to around 175-180 when done right.
October 25, 2023
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Chuck
That’s a long 8!! I only hit it 175 and honestly it would be better to hit it a little shorter because you start having 15 yard gaps with short irons which is not ideal
October 25, 2023
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Matt
My gaps get even wider down in the wedges b/c my early release cast with 9 iron/PW/52/56/60 really shows up in those clubs the most as they just go a lot higher and not so penetrating ball flight. I am hoping understanding this right wrist throw better will help compact and get those clubs dialed in. Of course if it translates to consistent 290-300 yard bombs I'll take that too!
October 25, 2023
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Rodrigo
Chuck, I genuinely believe that not a single person who watches this video will fully comprehend its content without having a deep understanding and a thorough study of your entire program. However, I see this as a positive aspect, as it encapsulates the evolution of your many years of hard work into just a few minutes, providing a valuable overview to your members. I want to express my deep gratitude, Chuck. I've mentioned it before, but I can't emphasize enough how much I appreciate your unwavering honesty in everything you provide and share with us. Thank you, Chuck.
October 24, 2023
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Chuck
Thank you! Time will tell for sure. My aim for the last few years has been to make the golf swing so simple that no one could mess it up! I'll keep down this path until I have mastered the art of simple and I feel like this is close, if not there. I'm not sure how I could make it much simpler. I think many will need the AXIOM Power Program who don't understand the mechanics of the throw and that may be the only missing piece to make this a very complete and wildly simple way to enjoy crushing straight drives for the average golfer.
October 24, 2023
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Shane
I'm still rehabbing my left shoulder so I haven't been back out to the range after my initial test run with the Axiom power program, which was extremely successful! Watching this new video and just doing some right arm only progressions, the speed is crazy compared to my usual left side pull and huge body turn. The "swoosh" has always been out in front of me and now I've got it at the ball where it's needed!! I pulled out my old Optishot and my 3 wood swing speed is registering around 110 and the driver around 120. I'm not sure how accurate that is but it's 20 mph faster on it than I've ever done before. Excited to keep working on this over the winter. Crazy change that I hope I can take to the course.
October 24, 2023
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Chuck
Holy cow! Gamechanger is an understatement there! That's 60 yards of speed you've tapped into! Let me know how it feels hitting balls!
October 24, 2023
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Rob
Hey Chuck thanx for finally letting me use my extremely dominant right side and see a little progress in speed for the first time. As a PE teacher I’ve been throwing balls all my life so the move is hidden in my body, I know. After a short first practice session on the range I heard the different contact i made with the ball but no significant increase in speed yet. But the second time going through my clubs there was a sudden spike in speed with the driver. Normally the display on the toptracer tells met I cannot get more than average 126 mph initial ball speed with my driver on the range but suddenly there where three balls in a row 135,136,135....You won't believe the smile on my face. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to do that again because off my obsessive need to turn my shoulders through the shot and lose all the speed again but I'm sure I’m on a right path with your teachings here.
October 24, 2023
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Chuck
That's a huge gain! Yep, the shoulders are what I'm seeing kill people's speed with this. It's hard to trust that the arm and wrist can generate so much speed without the help of the shoulders because turning them feels more powerful, even though it slows the club down.
October 24, 2023
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Jeff
Would it make sense to combine this with a baseball or maybe even reverse overlap grip?
October 23, 2023
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Chuck
Never thought about trying it to be honest. Give it a go and let me know!
October 23, 2023
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Jim
Hey Chuck. Thanks again. You are a genius. I can really feel this in my right forearm. I feel like I am using muscles that I never had in my swing and the speed has increased significantly. I will take it to the range in a couple days to hopefully see some good results. Thanks buddy.
October 23, 2023
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Chuck
Yes!!! Let me know how it goes!
October 23, 2023

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