Trail Arm Release - Throw the Ball Drill Pt 2

Are you ready to maximize your club head speed at impact? If so, you need this missing piece from our wildly popular "Throw the Ball Drill" video. In this Part 2 video, you'll get a drill to ingrain the proper release point for your wrists and arms.

  • For Hip Spinners:
  • Try to Keep the Shoulders and Hips Closed in Downswing
  • Keep Right Heel on Ground
  • Release the Ball With the Throwing of the Right Arm
  • For NON Hip Spinners:
  • Same Motions as Above, But Now Hips Can Feel as They Are Opening Through Impact
  • Shoulder Still Square to Ball At Point of Release

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Kevin
Hi Craig - since my lesson on starting with small 9-3 drills and ramping up sped I've been hitting it great! One learning I've had is that if dont really post up and have a power release I can have too much of a "flowy" transition into post and get out ahead of NJA leading to a thin shot or even a duff with the fairway woods. Is the feel in this drill one you would recommend for me to keep the shoulders closed, pull with my hips and improve my release?
August 19, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. Great. Not at this stage. I would recommend more the How Swing Speed Affects Compression.
August 19, 2020
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Graig, my question has 2 goals, to give me better understanding in studying the Certification EBook and also my practical practice on the course. In the Ebook I read this: "There are three primary pressure points on the right hand that the golfer must become aware of to accelerate through and control impact. They are the proximal phalanx (the bone at the base of the finger) of the index and middle two fingers. These key points will be responsible for transmitting forces created by the rotation of the trunk, the right pec and the extension of the right tricep, to name just a few. If the golfer is not aware of these points and doesnt learn to monitor them, he can struggle with both a lack of clubhead speed and a lack of clubhead control. They are also vital for having a sense of control of the golf club during the backswing and will be one of the key focus points in the Right Arm drills used later in this book." When does this right hand action start and stop? Is it from the transition moment until post up, from weight shift moment to post up or post up to impact? Also how active is this action, as hard as possible or very controled supporting the lead arm? Thanks for helping!
December 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcel. The action will be after the transition and as you post up (Throw the Ball Drill). However, the vast majority of players much over use the trail hand so we caution anyone to start trying to do something with this. Hence, why we have very little trail hand videos. The motion when adding will be somewhat active, but not so much to over take the lead arm control. You can't have the trailer starting to out run the truck. I still like players to think of their trail arm as a passive conduit of power.
December 2, 2019
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Thank you Graig! I am left handed in throwing and up to now in the process my right hand is very much going with the lead arm ride, doing nothing. In practice I now feel and see I get better contact with ball if I focus on the movement of the right arm/hand action as discribed in the Ebook. My feeling is it brings clubhead better in strait line with arm at impact.
December 2, 2019
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Aman
Hello, Does this throw the ball drill help square the club face? Does this action occur while we pull from the left? Thanks, Aman
July 19, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Aman. The lead side will be in control of squaring the face. The trail will be more what transfers the power. Yes, this motion is performed while pulling with the lead side.
July 20, 2019
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Nolan
Also, should the thought of throwing the club at the ball apply to the ball position for the driver (ie feel like you’re throwing the ball towards the forward tee position in a driver set up?)
January 20, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nolan. One swing for all shots. You make the setup adjustments and the same swing, If you start delaying the throw too much because of the ball position. You may end up hitting too down on the driver.
January 20, 2019
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Nolan
So to clarify, the release point for the driver is the same as the other clubs?
January 20, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nolan. The release point stays the same so you can catch the driver on a slightly positive angle of attack.
January 21, 2019
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Nolan
Is this the thought I should use for all clubs (wedge shots, irons, fairway woods, and driver?
January 20, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nolan. You will use the process for all clubs. However, before you start focusing on the trail side too much you need to master the lead side control.
January 20, 2019
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Andrew
I am not sure if this is normal but doing this drill actually seems to make it feel like my left 3 main fingers become more dominant on the club at the point of impact and through release with the right hand feeling like it loosens significantly and nearly comes off the club. Is that normal? For me this is not a bad thing because with the other drills like the 9 to 3 drill I have struggled to keep my left thumb and right hand from overpowering the club. This seems to cure that issue with little effort.
May 22, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andrew. Feeling is too subjective to pinpoint. But, if you are able to have less trail hand and more control in lead 3 fingers. All good.
May 22, 2018
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Melvin
I think I understand this drill and the right arm lag drill, but how do they square with your concept that the right hand is only along for the ride in the downswing? Does it add power too?
April 11, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Melvin. The trail arm will add speed to the swing. As long as the lead arm stays dominant and the trail doesn't over power/take away control from the lead. Crucial to master lead side dominance first.
April 11, 2018
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Curt
I read a lot about the "skipping a rock" drill. I tend to come over the top and not shift my hips well enough, so the feel of this makes sense. Your thoughts?
September 11, 2017
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
That's not a bad thought, but if you're coming over the top and not shifting your hips well, you answered your own question! Go back and look at the weight shift videos first!
September 18, 2017
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Pat
I have practiced the drill many times, but I just seem to slap at the ball, catching it thin more times than flush. I am targeting where the ball is in my stance. Should I target a point out past the ball? I believe I am losing my lag when I try this. I REALLY want to increase my clubbed speed significantly.
November 29, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Pat. This drill is geared for players that are already too lead side dominant. If you are losing lag. Then, I would stay focused and master the lead side until you are at a point where losing lag isn't an issue. Also, the goal would be hitting at the point of impact.
November 29, 2016
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Jason
how is the throw the ball drill and action similar to the other teachings out there of "hitting vs swinging", i.e., forcefully extending the right arm through impact?---> could it be that the throw the ball drill puts your elbow in more of a pitch location and the forearm is more supinated while the extension is about to occur?---> whereas just trying to hit and extend with the right arm during the down swing might create more of a pronated forearm?
August 6, 2016
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
This drill is specifically for those who are already left side dominant to teach them how to add the right side for more speed.
August 7, 2016
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Lee
Absolutely love this drill. Very helpful. I've seen a couple of golf fitness exercises using a medicine ball that appear to be similar. You turn back with the medicine ball and then bounce/slam it off the ground right around the ball position area. I believe the stated goal of that exercise was to help you stay down through impact. I'm going to continue with the throw the ball drill as I have seen great results. Do you think doing the exercise with the medicine ball would also be beneficial? Many thanks for your help.
July 1, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lee. The medicine ball may help. But, you need to be careful of getting to aggressive with the arms. You still need to shift your weight and pull with the lead side properly (RST 5 Step System). Master the body motions first before getting the arms overly involved.
July 2, 2016
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Joseph
Hi, Wouldn't this drill (throw the ball) help Jordan Spieth. Eye ball test looks like he's come over the top and getting ahead with his body. Also someone pointed out he has a weak grip. This drill has helped me greatly and hence reduced my scoring average. Regards,
April 11, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joseph. Jordan is getting ahead with his body. However, Jordan is a Square Releaser of the golf club, not a Roll Releaser (Rory, Day, Bubba). This actually could cause a little more problems in his swing. I'm glad this drill is starting to make improvements in your game.
April 11, 2016
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Joseph
Hi, How does this work for a driver? I was using a launch monitor trying out a new driver. Although my swing speed increase by 15 MPH from 105 to 120 my spin rate was in the high 3000s. This drill is solid for irons but not sure how to engage the golf driver. My irons were off the chart btw. This feels like I'm hitting down on the ball but for a driver I believe the method is to upswing. Please advised since I'm a classic hip spinner and I release why too late on my downswing. Regards, Joe
April 1, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joe. Did you adjust your setup accordingly for the driver? Tee position, stance, tilt, etc?
April 1, 2016
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Joseph
Hi, Yes I did. That's one of the first things that I check. Correct me if I'm wrong, my driver setup is left heel setup. Honestly it feels like I'm hitting down versus upswing. Regards,
April 1, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joe. Hitting down on it isn't necessarily bad for the driver depending on the outcome that you want. Take a look at Proper Tee Height Video if you haven't done so yet. I think you are just trying to throw it a touch early versus you will be catching in later in the swing arc. You still need to swing through to catch at the proper release point.
April 1, 2016
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Robert
How does the throw the ball drill assist development of lag
November 23, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. The Throw the Ball Drill is mainly for players that create too much lag and/or have problem creating snap with the trail arm properly. The only way the drill would help teach lag is that you don't want to fire the trail arm too early. Like a pitcher throwing a lame duck.
November 23, 2015
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Stuart
Doesn't the "throw the ball" concept conflict somewhat with pulling with your left arm on the downswing? It seems to be very difficult to incorporate the two concepts in the downswing. Thanks
June 30, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stuart. The trail arm does have a job to do in the swing. However, the vast majority of golfers way over use it. The "throw the ball" is better suited for the minority of players that tend to create too much angle and get stuck in the downswing.
June 30, 2015
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Stuart
Got it--thanks very much.
July 1, 2015
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Martin
Hi, I tried the drill several times and I notice that the ball always goes to the right after the contact with the ground. Is this normal ?
June 24, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Martin, great question! If you think about it, in order to make the ball go left after contact, it would have to make contact on the outside of the ball and that's a dreaded over the top move that many amateur golfers struggle with. So, don't be too concerned about where the ball is going after contact simply because you're throwing a round object at another round object which causes the margin of error to make the ball go straight after contact incredibly small. We're just wanting to focus on the body movements and releasing the ball at the correct time. R.J.
June 24, 2015
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Louis
Say where we are throwing to a tee in the ground where impact would be (instead of another ball), the ball bouncing far to the right after hitting the ground likely represent a more inside path (that is assuming one is not improperly trying to control face angle with the right hand)?
July 2, 2015
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Kevin
Do we throw, after the club, arms, and hands get their free ride? i'm sorry if I sound like an ass, but this is another Hip Spinners video. Let's assume our hips work just fine, Where do we throw/release? Thanks.
June 21, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. Shift the weight, use a little pull from the lead arm and gravity to bring the club down, and you will throw before you start getting into the trail thigh position. If you have a hard time understanding the drill and struggling with getting stuck. You need to zero out your plane. Trace the Plane Line Video Advanced Downswing Section.
June 21, 2015
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dane
Hey guys I'm left handed but play right handed, I'm very left arm dominant. I've been struggling with compressing the ball lately and that is by far my biggest issue, when I do compress it or flush it it's straight and penetrating. The LADD was easy for me due to being dominant hand, is it a good possibility my miss hits on the face could be from not using my right arm enough? If that's true what are the effects of overdoing the right arm release in case I learn to exaggerate it, this is barring other swing variables of course. Thank you for your time, it's hard to find much info on being lead arm dominant
April 1, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dane. Apologize for the lack of content regarding too much lead arm dominance. The majority of players don't use it enough as you probably know. Anyways, hitting the ball fat and over rotation (closing) of the face will occur from too much trail arm throw.
April 1, 2015
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Mike
I read the Article on "Understanding Missed Golf Shots in the Rotary Swing". The article talked about the "Body Drill" and showed a few pictures. I am interested in how to keep my spine angle through the proper shoulder positions in the Body Drill. A video of this drill would really help me get this. The pictures are not dynamic or clear enough for this purpose. Is there a video of the Body Drill?
March 7, 2015
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Mike, that article you read and drill you saw was designed for the original RS1 swing and not for RST. There was a lot of body rotation and very passive arms in that swing. Maintaining spine angle in the golf swing can really boil down to how you use your lower body. If you learn how to load the lower half in the backswing to stabilize, then rotation around the axis becomes much easier. The shoulder movements in the downswing will all be driven by what the lower half is doing. The shift and unwinding of the hips back to the lead side, unwinds the shoulders a bit and then the clearing of the lead hip should pull the shoulders back to a square position for the release. If you are coming out of posture, then we should focus first on how you use your lower half in the entire sequence. We are working on a new drill for maintaining spine angle otherwise. Hope this helps.
March 10, 2015
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john
Hi Chuck, I need some clarification on the back swing and the position at the top. In one of your videos you talk about maximizing the width of your swing by keeping the right arm extended or straight as long as possible to get the widest swing arc possible. Now, where I get into a problem is at the top. In your throw the ball drill you emphasize that the right shoulder shouldn't be too high since it will become disconnected from the scapula. I believe you state, " that you should keep the shoulder lower and thereby staying connected to the scapula for transferring the power that comes from the big muscles in your body and trunk rotation". Well, when I keep my right arm straight on the backswing it seems as if I disconnect from the scapula and now swing down using only the power of my arms. Can you try and clarify this feeling/trendency at the top and what should I be doing to achieve both techniques. Thanks, John Whitbeck
December 25, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
John, Keeping the shoulder depressed and in the box is still achievable with a higher hand position. It's the shoulder joint itself that needs to stay down and not get hiked up towards the right ear. So, while making your turn with the straight arms, focus on keeping your right shoulder as far from your right ear as possible without manipulating your head. Check out this video regarding width in the backswing http://www.rotaryswing.com/videos/full-swing-advanced/backswing/keep-the-right-arm-straight-to-turn Let us know if you have any other questions R.J.
December 26, 2014
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Travis
It feels as if my right hand is very active trying to time the impact. When I just let it all release fully its a high hard pull, I then have to add more drag of the left hand or spin body more to not pull it. For someone who struggles with the "start straight going left" how can this best be practiced, if at all?
September 22, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Travis. It sounds like you are over working the trail hand. You want the trail hand to add speed, but not control the face rotation. It's more important to release the lead hand properly, than over control with the trail. Use the 5 Minutes to the Perfect Release in the Downswing Section and the Vijay Release Drill in the Advanced Downswing Section to keep the trail hand from controlling face rotation.
September 22, 2014
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Larry
Craig, I am hitting too many hooks - my natural shape was a draw prior to learning about and practicing RST but I can't figure out what I'm doing that's causing this. I have been working on the Throw the Ball Drills, Right Hand Downswing Drills and the LADD drill and practicing the left hand with knuckles down feeling - getting great compression but the ball is starting straight or left and hooking more left. Maybe I'm coming from too far inside on my backswing? Ball flight is a bit too high as well. Thanks in advance!
November 1, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Larry. If the ball is starting left and hooking your club face is too closed. It sounds like you are getting a little a flip and too much rotation of the face with the trail hand. Use the 5 Minutes to the Perfect Release in the Downswing Section. Focus first on owning impact. Square club. Hit small shots. They should be straight. Slowly build back releasing the club with the lead hand. Make sure you release and not flip. Take the trail hand out of the equation and don't let him take over. It will straighten you out.
November 1, 2014
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David
Hi Chuck, I've re-registered for membership today. Why? I've used your 9-3 lag drills, squatting into the left glut during the down swing (most powerful fix for me)...still working on turning the left wrist during down swing so as to square the club (still seeing hooks on bad timings); pretty good on bumping the hips at stance....I've gained over 60 yards in my drives! I recommended your site to many club members at Westborough Country Club. Last but not least, my lower back doesn't hurt anymore! Thank you.....but I know i have more room for improvement and will send more videos of my swings. Couple questions please: 1. Why does my right arm elbow hurt at times? 2. Any discounts for referrals?
September 20, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. Thanks for the post and the good positive feedback of your results! Great to see. We are looking into setting up a referral program in the near future. We will notify the members once it is in place. The right arm is somewhat a mystery. You could be over rotating it going back. Take a look at the 3 Functions of the Right Arm in the Advanced Backswing Section. Make sure you aren't adding unnecessary steps.
September 20, 2014
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Ernie
I have tendencies to creep out over the ball/ get my head ahead of it open club face etc.. is this a good drill for that?
August 31, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ernie. I would focus on the 5 Minutes to the Perfect Downswing in this same section. Focus on the weigh shift and passive trail shoulder to stay behind and release is properly.
September 1, 2014
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Andy
Hi, I have a tendency to get my hands too far in front of me on the downswing whenever i try to incorporate this drill into my swing with a club. This works out ok for short irons but is disastrous for longer irons and woods. My right arm stays bent too long and my right shoulder dips far too much in relation to the position of my hands in the first half of the downswing. Would I be right in saying that when you are doing the throw the ball drill, the ball should be located close in to you so that the hands pass through roughly the same position as setup. For instance if I did the drill with the ball in the driver position my hands would be way outside the correct line. (This is the feel I have when I swing my driver, that my hands aim too far out towards the ball) I am seeing significant improvements with the driver using this drill with the ball in close for all clubs as long as i don't uncock the hands totally at impact i.e. keep some angle between lead arm and clubshaft. Very difficult to get my point across in words but if you get where i'm coming from please confirm that there is a guide distance for the ball away from the body for this drill and also, although unrelated to the drill, that we should maintain some angle between the lead arm and the clubshaft at impact i.e. lead arm and shaft not in straight line at impact
August 19, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
The lead arm and shaft won't be an exact line at impact. A few more degrees of shaft lean into the lead wrist. I don't mind your ball placement, but it sounds like the issue is the shoulder dropping. Take a look at the Level Shoulders Drill in the Advanced Downswing Section. Try and keep the trail shoulder back and higher. It should help with the stuck-ness or any push from the trail side.
August 19, 2014
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Eric
finally finally! Hi my name is Eric and I'm a hardcore spinner. I have perfect video of me illustrating hips spinning, right heel up at impact, jammed up on the right side...All of it. Even though I'm coming back from an 8 year layoff it's still there. I wondered then what was up with the blocks and snap hooks. The throw the ball videos were eye openers. I had heard of this exercise before but Chuck's explanation was like a light switch. I've been told by instructors before that I'm maintaining wrist cocktail too long, fire the right side etc etc but no "how" I accomplish it. After starting back a few months ago it was so bad on one swing I injured my right rib cage. So glad I found this site.
August 15, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Eric. Glad we can help bring you back to the light! Appreciate the good feedback!
August 15, 2014
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work4golf
Do I "purposely" rotate my left hand at impact position for follow thru? ..I found this answer on the video right arm release. Many thanks Chuck.
August 7, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great! No problem.
August 7, 2014
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work4golf
Please correct me if this sequence is wrongn throwing ball part 1. I am at the top of my back swing, I should squat, shift weight on the left side (left inner thight and glute + ankle engaged) -while my back and hip still shut - no movement, then I start throwing ball action (toward the ball on the ground) on the right arm. I don't need to open the hip first before throwing the right arm right? Do I "purposely" rotate my left hand at impact position for follow thru? Thank you.
August 7, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
From the top. Shift the weight to the lead side, initiate the squat, and keep the feeling of staying shut throwing the ball. (for hip spinner). Allow the hips to open by pulling from the lead oblique for (non-hip spinner).
August 7, 2014
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matt
This helps a ton...I've been flipping at the very end, using right side, foot coming up, etc. Thanks. Matt
June 14, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
No problem Matt. Glad you like the drill!
June 16, 2014
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Terry
Wanted to check that I have the right feeling after some practice. At the top of the swing then the shift to the left with a slight crouch (downcock), I feel like I am throwing the club down at the ball with the right arm, the body is straightening and almost coming to a stop. Then as the club releases the body follows. This is different from what I have been doing so which is turning through impact. I wanted to check that this is the right feeling before I ingrain it further.
May 26, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Terry, sounds like you are the correct track here. You are stalling the body and releasing the right arm angle as both arms are rotating and working independently from the body
May 27, 2014
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Matt
What golf course is Chuck taking these videos from -- it looks really nice!
May 18, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Jaime, this video is from Hole Number 11 at The Golf Club at Black Rock in Idaho. It is a fantastic course.
May 18, 2014
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gerard
I have been working with Aaron on my golf swing. We have been working on sitting into the left and move 3 of the down swing. I haven't done this drill yet. It seems to me that this drill can really help me who comes out of my swing. Would this be correct
May 7, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
This drill can help with many areas of the downswing and can certainly help you get the feeling beyond the correct release point of the right arm. So yes, you are on the correct path.
May 7, 2014
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How do I shorten my back swing. My swing today was really long crossing in front of my head.
May 1, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Make sure the right glute is loaded to stabilize the hips which can help not allowing the torso to over rotate. Then get your self to feel the hands and arms stop when the rotation of the torso stops.
May 1, 2014

One of the most common questions we get about the throw the ball drill is, "Where exactly do I throw the ball?" The answer to that, I want you to think about it for a second because it really helps you understand what you're really trying to do with your golf swing, especially when you're working on mechanics. I'm going to demonstrate a couple different things here because there's two different ways you need to think about it depending on what your tendencies are as a golfer.

                In the original video, when we talk about exactly what we're doing when we're throwing the ball, we're really dealing a lot with hip spinners. Just to give you a really clear picture of that, a hip spinner tends to be a golfer who gets his hips way out in front of his arms and the arms get stuck way back behind here. Hips are wide open. The right heel is always up off the ground. Belt buckle is nearly facing the target. Then they're coming too far from the inside and they try to save the shot at the last second with their hands. It becomes a very inconsistent way to hit the ball.

                It tends to be a better player's fault. The more athletic the golfer is, the more they've learned to use their hips for speed and power. They overdo it. That's when we start emphasizing how to use the right arm.

                Then what we're really doing is just trying to get you to get your right arm to help work the club in your hands back in front of your body. That doesn't mean your hips stop working. Although if you're a hip spinner, you will tend to feel that they don't work or they stop working as much because you're so used to overusing them that you've trained them really well to get out of the way.

                For you, your target is literally right down at the ball that's on the ground. That's what you're trying to do is learn to release the club into the release point at the ball. Not way out here. You're already really good at that. When you get this far out in front of it, you're releasing the club really late. The club is flipping over past impact and you've lost any control over the club, and the path, and the release point. You're really wanting to focus on just throwing the ball down at the ground and slamming on the brakes right here with everything squared up. In reality, you're still going to get your hips open, et cetera, but you need to feel, and you need to do your drills that you're not opening up. You're trying to be dead square and you're throwing the club or the ball at the ball on the ground.

                Now, if you're not a hip spinner, this is very important. If you tend to be really squared impact in the real world, and your golf impact position and your address position look the same, you're not using your body enough. For you, the feeling can be a little bit differently. Drilling that you throw the ball down at the ground is great for every golfer because that's going to teach you the release point of the wrists, and the arms, and getting everything squared back up.

                If you don't use your body enough, what you want to do is you want to still release the ball down at the same point, but you want to try and get your hips open so that you're in this position, not this position. Because you're not doing it enough in the real swing if you end up looking squared up. You want to try and do the same thing. Get your arm in the position at the top that we talk about in the regular video, and then work your hips open, and then release the ball at the ball, and get your shoulders still squared up, but now you can see that my hips are open.

                For some of you, you may even need to feel that your heel comes off the ground. That's because your tendencies are the opposite. We don't want the heel to come up off the ground. Most of the time, you don't need to get your right foot coming up off the ground. That tends to let the hips get a little wild. But if you're one of those people that doesn't use your body enough, you don't get your hips going enough, you just tend to use your all arms from the top, feeling and drilling this throw the ball drill with your hips open at impact is exactly what you need to feel for your golf swing. 

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