The Golf Grip and Being Out of the Box

Another video to disspell some of the common swing myths. This one deals with the old adage that you should grip the club based on how your arms naturally hang.

  • Poor posture will cause your arms to hang incorrectly from your shoulders. From here, you will to have to make compensations in order to properly grip the club.
  •  Pull your shoulder blades back, down and in to get yourself "in the box," your palms will face each other and your grip will come on naturally.

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Eric
I had a bad round of golf. Pushing all my drives right. A friend said he noticed my right hand is not covering my left thumb (in life line). I do a shoulder shrug and try to be aware of my posture. I went home in front of the mirror and realized that I subconsciously bend my knees when I am bending from the hips. I really focused on locking out my legs when bending to the ball and the grip of my right hand naturally covers the left. Does this make sense? Also bending knees during bend puts me in puppy fire hydrant and immobilizes my rotation, especially my hips?
January 10, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. The trail hand issue shouldn't be that much related to the slice if the lead is in control. But, the knee bend issue and butt tucked up underneath leading to early extension makes sense.
January 10, 2021
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William
Got it! Thanks.
January 10, 2017
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William
So what is happening if you get "outside the box" during a swing?
January 10, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. The shoulders blades lose connection with the core. Typically, the shoulder shrug motion or over elevation. When the shoulder blades lose connection the the body and you aren't swinging from the core anymore. The swing becomes unstable as the arms are free to travel wherever they want and a player has to manually reconnect them to be able to add force from core rotation.
January 10, 2017
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William
I might be alone with this question but what is "the box"?
January 10, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. The box are the core muscles of the body. The abdominals, obliques, lats and traps. Not the upper neck and torso muscles.
January 10, 2017
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chris
is it normal then when you grip the club for your right shoulder to drop somewhat when your in golf posture holding a club?
January 2, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chris. The right shoulder will have to be a little below the left when you grip and take your posture.
January 2, 2016
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chris
so when you say get in the box do you men retract your scapula blades?
January 2, 2016
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Steven (Certified RST Instructor)
Chris-Yes. You want to depress your shoulders down and retract them back. Just think military attention stance.
January 2, 2016
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Loran
What?...this bad posture creates unnecessary tension or creates bad tempo? Or causes inefficient movements in the swing?
May 29, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Loan. This video describes that improper positioning of the arms/shoulders can affect how you grip the club. Thus, requiring additional manipulation in the swing. This can create poor tempo, improper mechanics, and swing inefficiencies.
May 29, 2015
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Stephen
Hi Craig, from my last review my list was cupped slightly at the top of backswing. It was because of my grip being too strong. I think that I am over exagerating putting the club too much on the pad of the hand. By reducing this slightly, will this make it slightly weaker, as well as doing the above drill. I feel that I have the space between the two ligaments in the centre of the shat also. I had this before also but I think I had it too much on the pad of my hand. hope this makes sense
May 14, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. Usually, too much in the pad leads to a weak grip and overly wrapping with the fingers a strong one. But, if you are pressing the pad down on the other side of the grip, then yes this drill and reducing the over pad wrap motion will weaken the grip slightly.
May 14, 2015
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phil
By the way thanks craig this all started with your lesson
April 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
No worries. I'm just guiding you along the way. You are doing all the work.
April 9, 2015
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phil
you probably would not believe this but my swing speed is 87-89 mi. per hr. Was working on getting rid of excessive forward press and starting more in a neutral position and getting the right shoulder to handle the backswing it started to feel so good I asked the pro there to check my driver swing speed. My avg swing speed is now 94-97 with a couple as high as 101. my normal drives are about 220 yds I had balls landing in front of the 250 and rolling 10 to 15 yds past cant wait to take this to the golf course
April 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
That's awesome! Great work Phil. Love hearing the good progress.
April 9, 2015
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phil
Craig thanks for recent lesson now I know why I had such a problem trying to rotate right shoulder and not have the club feel like its traveling so far inside. I never noticed that I had so much forward press but now the right side move away from the ball feels so much better and I feel now I will be able to rotate the right shoulder until my back faces the target. Had a few lessons before but you are the absolute best. Thanks look forward to working with you.
April 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Phil. I appreciate the compliments. Keep up the good work. We will get that swing rockin' and rollin'! Happy to hear we are making head way on the rotation!
April 8, 2015
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John
I have been struggling with my arms after getting "in the box". While trying to have my right elbow pit facing away...is it similar to doing a dumbbell curl? Overhand curl? For some reason I can not get them to work properly. Thank you.
March 22, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. The elbow pit will be facing away from the body. It sounds like you are over doing the external rotation of the arm. It will be closer to the over hand curl with elbow away, than under hand.
March 22, 2015
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Alan
This message is for Craig Morrow... Thank you for your review of my swing. I went to the range and noticed a couple of things in a mirror. I stood a little taller and added an axis tilt, and also focused on keeping my right elbow in front of my body when I took the club back. Two things automatically happened... My weight shifted to my rear leg and I hit that takeaway spot you wanted me to be at in front of my body instead of behind me. Any comments and thank you again. Alan Hipps
March 20, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Alan. Great! Using the mirror is one of the best tools. Now, start to own a couple of those new pieces. We will keep your swing moving forward. Appreciate the post.
March 20, 2015
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Christian
I am glad that I am "in the box".
December 8, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great. Being "in the box" is a good thing! A very simple concept that goes along ways towards and efficient swing.
December 8, 2014
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js
hi i have a very strong grip just like chuck demonstrate..my left wrist is too much cupping... is it affect my take away or backswing plane? caz when i take a club back, my hands and arms are very deep.. clup face is shut and move outside... i feel that my hands and arms move faster than club face.
October 2, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
A grip that is too strong will affect the takeaway and backswing. If your hands are going inside first. Make sure you learn how to rotate off the ball first. 5 Mins to Master Rotation in the Takeaway Section.
October 2, 2014

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