Larry's Lesson - Day 3 - Pt 3 - Swinging w/ Speed

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In the final part of the lesson we start getting Larry to pick up his pace to naturally remove some of his swing flaws without him even thinking about it.


Yeah, you looked kind of smooth and rhythmical there.

That's not how a golf swing is.

It's fast, baby.

It's got to move.

Left shoulder.

A little better.

Yeah, exactly.

I can see.

You can see the quickness.

This is where you're going to get your speed back in and stop hitting it 200 yards.

There you go.

A little too armsy.

Get your body ready.

Left shoulder down to the ground and then clear out of the way.

A little armsy.

It's all the money though, right?

Yeah.

So this is what I want you to use this stuff for.

Because it's going to, one, you can't do this with your hands and be anywhere near 3.

1 because it just makes the club move too much.

And then your body's trying to discombobulate it, trying to bring it all back together, right?

The smaller your movements with your hands and arms, the faster you can move.

And of course, you're going to see like your radial deviation.

I actually kind of want to see that.

Let's see what your graph looks like there.

And a little bit of radial deviation too much there.

That's this one?

Yeah, this is the last shot.

It defaults to the last one.

Okay.

But you're still way more consistent.

But now you're having to think about different things, right?

Now you're not going fast.

I'm not thinking about fast.

But when I work on these things, independent of the other one, then I put it together with that other one, the speed one.

I need to get those all matched up.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So you'll see that when this looks better, your time will look better.

Because it's just less movement.

I mean, this is just showing movement, right?

So, yeah.

The straighter it is, the faster it's going to be.

Okay.

A hundred percent.

Okay.

A hundred percent.

So whichever one you want to work on, you can.

But the main thing I want you to walk out of here with is just like, there's a bunch of different features in there.

But those are kind of the core ones that you want to really be able to pay attention to.

And like I said, if you like the auditory feedback, I think that's a really helpful tool.

There you go.

And you'll see like your path has squared up a lot from where you were too.

That's just showing how much arm movement you've got going on.

How much wrist movement you've got going on.

The less you move your arms, the smaller that movement, that line's going to be.

That was way better.

Exactly.

That felt more like when I was just working on, I was just working on the top line.

I was trying to just get that wrist not to do anything.

That's what I thought about in that swing.

And that was the best one to think so far.

Exactly.

And that's, they're tied together, right?

So if you start moving into a lot of radial deviation with this trail hand, it's going to bow that left wrist a lot.

Yeah.

Right?

So they, they, they're different, but they're the same.

They're kissing cousins, if you will.

When I worked on this top one, that seems to be the one that benefits me the most.

Because of doing this versus just doing that.

Exactly.

Just doing nothing.

And that, that, that feeling really helped me a lot.

This one of just like.

Yeah.

Feeling like there's just nothing going on.

Or less going on at least.

So, I mean, it just feels so much better.

I just work on that one thing.

That looks pretty good there.

I mean, it's a little high up there.

That's okay.

But it's much straighter.

Yeah.

What you're looking for is consistency.

This was much better.

Oh, yeah.

You barely went over the zero line there.

It was way better.

Yeah.

I'm not, I'm delaying that way longer.

Yep.

I'm like, that's, this is an awesome shame.

I told people, I'm like, listen, you don't understand how good this thing is.

And like I said, when you go out on the course in the real world and you hit good shots, you're like, I want to know what I did.

Yeah.

Well, I want to know what I feel.

Exactly.

Because this is like, oh, that's what it feels like.

Like that top line, I'm starting, I'm starting to understand what does it feel like when I'm not doing anything with my wrist, when it's just staying pretty, you know, dormant.

It's not dormant, but for me, it's dormant.

Yeah.

Because you're used to bowling it right away.

I'm used to just.

Exactly.

Yeah.

That's huge.

Okay.

And that's why you were, you were making golf so much harder on yourself.

Because you immediately were slamming that club face dead shut.

I actually recorded that last one.

I want to see.

I worked on it over and over again, too.

It doesn't matter how hard I worked on it, it would just do that.

It doesn't matter how hard.

I worked on it for two years.

See, that's way better, isn't it?

That's hugely better.

It's not even close.

That's not even close.

Uh-uh.

Oh, my God.

I can see why it did a lot better.

Yeah.

I mean, look at your wrist, how flat it is at the top.

You're maintaining that extension.

And now, look at the club face.

It's not slammed shut.

So, you have something to release.

And that's where you're going to get that rotation in there.

Wow.

Well, I'm most impressed about the takeaway.

Yeah.

That's the most impressive thing for me.

If you compare that to where we were, I mean, they're not even remotely close.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

So, here's the takeaway now.

And where you started, the first swing was this one.

Yeah.

Whoa.

Dude.

Look at this.

Angle here versus this.

Yeah.

This is way straighter.

That club face is like looking at the dirt.

I mean, it's wild.

This just handicaps you immediately.

Well, I mean, I would never have known that without you telling me.

I can really feel that so much.

Yeah.

I mean, the club face is so shut.

So shut.

Yeah.

So now, this is where you see most great players, right?

Their right arms stay straighter even more.

This is just, but as you get more comfortable with this, you're going to feel less need to fight this thing with your hands, right?

But at least now, you're in a position where you can actually release it, not worry about hooking it off the planet.

That's what I wanted to see with you.

You can make me do that.

Yeah?

That's the one thing that I was just, I'm so upset about my swing was this.

The shut face.

The bowing right away.

Yeah, yeah.

That's the hardest thing for me to fix.

I've been trying to do that for two years, and that's probably one of the first times I've ever seen it look this good.

No kidding.

In a long, I don't know if I've ever done, you know, I probably did that in all my life.

Yeah, wow, okay.

I bet you I did.

That's probably why I hooked everything so much.

Oh, you have a, so there's where you were.

That is a very, very shut face.

And so now, just as a reminder, this is you working with the Hack Motion on feeling like you maintain extension the whole time.

Basically, right?

So just using that auditory feedback, keeping it, it truly does, in my mind, when I work on it, I feel like my left wrist just never, ever moves.

Yeah, well, that's what it felt like when I was doing the good or better swingies.

It felt like I just, like, just totally relax.

It's like I'm not doing, I'm trying not to just do anything with it.

Just relax, relax, which helps my right side relax, too, because if it tightens, it's undead.

Exactly.

Okay.

Interesting.

Okay.

Yeah.

So this all makes sense?

Yeah.

I think I've taught you as much as you need for, I don't want to waste any more.

No, no.

That's great.

It's a good start.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

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VINCENT
Chuck, Can you share this with those of us who have a hack motion? Could you maybe create a video or cheatsheet to advise us on how to use it? Of course, inclusive of the settings. Eric
April 12, 2024
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Chuck
Do you mean like do a video on settings and stuff in hackmotion?
April 15, 2024
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VINCENT
Exactly!!
April 15, 2024
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Steve
Hey Chuck, Great transformation with Larry! The one thing that really jumped out to me was how he felt that he was working on many different fixes at different times but seeing results with the particular area he was focused on… I too have noticed this with my practice… The problem is that I had thought the (Wide, Glide, Wide) was the culmination of the Goat Code and Theory and would be the fix for all things and allow us to hit all the positions naturally through those feels? However I didn’t notice you mention Wide, Glide, Wide at all through the lessons with Larry? Even with the takeaway, it seems to have transitioned into feeling the lead shoulder push or trail shoulder pull to initiate the backswing, as well as having to focus on getting arms into GDP? I have seen similar results as Larry in terms of focused fixes (Flexion/Extension, Radial/Ulnar, Release, Speed…) However, none all at the same time as there would be just way to many individual swing thoughts… Wide, Glide, Wide got rid of my swing thoughts and I had natural speed but with some faults… (All identified by HackMotion) Like anything, as we all put the Goat code into practice we will uncover issues… I truly believe that all of the theory that you uncovered is 100% correct and it all makes great sense! All of the fixes for faults make great sense! However I feel there are still too many swing thoughts to fix each fault! We saw this through the training with Larry… One thing would get better, but when he focused on something else, the other went back… The Axiom Power program got me into GDP and with speed however the backswing was not great and there were swing thoughts… Does The Goat Code Wide, Glide, Wide still apply or does it need a revision? I think HackMotion is incredible for feedback and as we work through the GOAT CODE I think we are all seeing that in order to get into the positions of the goats we can’t do it with Wide, Glide, Wide… Thank you!
April 12, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Steve, the videos on the site have to be generic enough to work with millions of different swing flaws and golfers who haven't a clue with what they're really doing in their swings. In person lessons are completely tailored to that exact golfer's issue and I work through them in a sequence that is best for the golfer. In person - custom. Video - broad based and generic.
April 12, 2024
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Steve
I can completely understand that each golfer has specific needs! I also see the value of in person one on one teaching! I guess I was just mistaken in thinking I was overthinking my own swing and that “Wide, Glide, Wide” Would simplify and solve my issues? I realize that my own main issue was takeaway as I was taking it inside and too much wrist cock… The rest of my swing was actually very good, getting over to the Left, getting into GDP, Release… I had really got there with swing thoughts though and wanted to eliminate them. Unfortunately right now I am at these swing thoughts as I swing… - Low, straight and slow takeaway - keep left hand quiet at the top - throw the ball from the top. This results in a decent swing and results! However it is those swing thoughts and my HackMotion Flexion/Extension numbers are sporadic at the top! Mostly too much extension, still getting negative at impact… Would you suggest that Larry along with myself need to do a lot of repetitions to fix each of our own issues and the incorporating “Wide, Glide, Wide” would work? Thank you!
April 12, 2024
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Chuck
Repetition is the ONLY way to change a movement pattern, and that's the same for Larry as it is for Tiger Woods. It always takes time to engrain it as the "How the Brain Learns" videos covered many years ago.
April 12, 2024
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Steve
Agreed! Thank you for clarifying Chuck! I had just felt some magic early on working through the Goat Code, but obviously some things still aren’t quite ingrained! Thank you for sharing this training session with Larry it definitely was insightful and answered a lot of questions! I will continue on with the reps until it’s all ingrained!
April 12, 2024
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Kenneth
Hi Chuck, Feel blessed to have found you as my new coach. I am doing OK with 7,8 9 but long irons and especially my driver I am struggling with. Any suggestions
April 11, 2024
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Chuck
Hi Kenneth, that means there are major fundamental issues going on. Have you gotten a swing review so someone can see what's happening?
April 12, 2024
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Kenneth
Hi Chuck and thanks for replying even though you must be engrossed in the masters much like me. I have not sent any reviews as I am unsure of how to do this I have 6 reviews but where I practice is going to be difficult to get one. Do you need a front on video in slow motion?
April 12, 2024
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Chuck
It helps a lot to have both views, but not necessary
April 15, 2024
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Chuck, I watched all video's you posted from your lesson with Larry and learned so much again! What I like the most is how you both communicate, you just explaining a (small) technical detail to Larry, then ask what you want him to do and from there you ask him for feedback about what he feels and noticed and how that relates to the task and the previous swings he made. It is this coaching skill of learning to listen, sseing what is happening and giving positive feedback to a student that we all need to master to be helpfull for your students. I often regret that I live so far away from your location here in Europe witch makes it impossible for me to come over to see you working in real life! To bad you don't have meetings here in Europe ( not sure how many instructors there are over here). Overal, looking at all the things you gave us over the years ( me being a member) you manage every time to get a new step in the direction to make it as simple as possible for golfers to get better. Also these new 2 training aids you add again make it easier for golfers to improve, but always within the Rotary Swing concept! Friendly greetings, Marcel
April 10, 2024
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Chuck
Thanks Marcel, I'm glad this helps! I'm getting closer to making this as simple as humanly possible - I think! No mechanics, no positions, couple simple feels = good golf. That's the goal.
April 10, 2024

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