The Golf Grip - How To

Much has been written on the importance of a good grip over the years, Ben Hogan devoted 17 pages to it in his book "Five Fundamentals", making it seem to many that it is some magical, mystical secret of the swing. But over the years teaching countless golfers I've learned a couple things. One, grips come in all shapes and sizes and can still be effective. And two, a sound grip is important, but very easy to achieve. In this video I show you the details of getting a good grip on the club that allows the hands to seemlessly work together as a unit, regardless of your swing type. From there, you can adjust for your natural tendencies and what works best for your swing and desired ball flight.

  • In a "strong" grip, the V of the left thumb points beyond the right shoulder - a "weak" grip points to the center of the body
  • Neutral to slightly strong is the preferred grip for most golfers
  • The pad of the left hand & space between the tendons at the base of the left thumb should both be about at the center of the shaft
  • Most of the force is exerted with the back three fingers - thumb and forefinger are light on the club, but pinch together to prevent the shaft slipping through at the top
  • The right hand matches up to the left - the V of the right thumb parallels the V of the left
  • The left thumb nestles into the lifeline on the right hand
  • The hands should grip the club securely - don't let the left do all the work

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zachary
How high up on the shaft shuold the hands be? There are markings on my Winn grip and I've been using the middle one for my left thumb, which leaves the butt sticking. If I use the top marking, the butt is pretty covered up in my left hand.
June 20, 2022
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Zachary. The meat/palm of the hand shouldn't be overlapping the butt end. You should have a tiny bit of grip sticking out.
June 20, 2022
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Juan
Hello Craig I am using 10 finger grip to practice drills with lead hand dominant swing and swing shape and contact is much better. But I think I can loose power. Any thoughts?
July 9, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Juan. You shouldn't lose power with the 10 finger grip. More often than not players end up using more trail hand with a 10 finger. So, if you are finding success. No issue.
July 10, 2021
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Rick
Interlock, overlap, 10 finger.... Does it matter? I’ve been using 10 finger out of comfort and not sure if I should be forcing myself to get used to overlap
February 12, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rick. Chuck is actually studying this as we speak. He has been looking if there is a preferred method. There are pros and cons to both. But, it may depend on whether you want to release with the lead side or be a trail side swinger.
February 12, 2021
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Robert
When will Chucks findings be available? This is a very interesting topic to me.
February 19, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. I am unsure. But, I know the last video of his swing he posted he was working with interlock and getting down to the nitty gritty. We don't like to release content without being able to make the new homework assignment very black and white. Apologize for the wait.
February 20, 2021
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Michael
I am a new member. I have never had an instructor explain/demonstrate the grip so thoroughly. I finally feel I am getting/learning the “pearls” of better golf. I am so motivated, even at age 74.
January 20, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. Welcome to the site! Happy to have you. Thanks for the post and keep that motivation high!!
January 20, 2021
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Kyaw Thet
Hi, Is that Ok to use double overlap grip? I am more comfortable with that which I think Jim Furyk uses that grip.
January 2, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kyaw. I have seen some players use that grip. May be worth experimenting with.
January 3, 2021
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Todd
Guys, with all the emphasis on controlling the club with the core and left arm, I've noticed that my right hand is so loose it sometimes just hangs on at address, sinking a bit on the grip ( I can still see about half of my left thumb ). I think it's still providing support where it needs to during the swing but several folks have commented on it and I'm wondering if it really matters. Your thoughts?
December 13, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Todd. When using the lead side swinging motion the trail hand is more or less just there for support and the trail arm is acting as a passive conduit of power. However, if the hand starts to slide down the shaft too much you actually will have the tendency to want to steer it more.
December 14, 2020
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Sean
Hi! I'm pretty new to the site and I'm not sure if this comment belongs here, but here goes... I notice that during the backswing (by following the edict that the trail hand should be secondary and barely helping in the swing) that my left thumb begins to separate from the grip forming a visible space between my lead arm thumb and forefinger. This seems to greatly effect the downswing and impact. How do I prevent this from happening with a light grip? When I firm up the grip it prevents this, but it seems that I don't get a full wrist hinge. My second issue is that when I use the RST technique to barely use the trail hand it puts an enormous amount of stress on the lead wrist at impact. How can this be avoided? thanks in advance!
October 6, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Sean. Sounds like you may be a little in the palm. Therefore, the club slides and you lose the connection. The lead wrist is what controls impact. The trail side adds power, and the lead side/wrist controls ball flight. Sounds like the grip is a little off and you need to allow for the release of the club. Take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips and Fix Your Release Videos.
October 6, 2020
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Sean
Hi Craig, thanks so much for the reply! I will check out the recommended videos.
October 6, 2020
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Jim
Can I put the shaft across the 3rd phalanx of the 4th right finger rather the middle joint? (Just a tad closer to the palm but still in the fingers). Does this set up any other bad things? It’s what I’ve tended to do, but could try to change if needed. Thx.
September 5, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. As long as the trail hand doesn't get too strong/weak. The setup across those primary pressure points you describe should be okay.
September 7, 2020
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Jim
IF your body position/posture is the same, and your clubs are of different lengths, then your grip will change IF you bring your hand in from the left with the club at rest behind the ball …. Either more horizontally across the palm for longer clubs with flatter angle, to more angulated (pad to different parts of the index finger) with shorter, higher angle-to-the-ground clubs. So, should the grip change subtly across the range of clubs, due to this, OR Should we change the angle of the left hand as we grip the club to manufacture THE SAME position of the club in the palm/fingers for ALL clubs?\ I’ve NEVER seen a pro, WEB site or article discuss this. Amazingly. This is so crucial to ball striking. I personally feel a more horizontal grip for my driver is needed, but am happy with a more across the palm grip is fine for short irons.
August 12, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. As the club changes length you will have subtly changes in your posture. The grip should remain the same. If you were to have to change the grip for every club in the bag you would tend to get a little lost. You will have less hinging from the hip sockets the longer the club. The club should still be in the fingers and not slide up towards the palm. Take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips for further info.
August 12, 2020
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Matthew
Is Craig there? Haha. He didn't really address the "long thumb" issue in the video. But I'm guessing it has to do with pinching it against the hand rather than just draping it along the club grip. So the entire length of the thumb isn't actually touching the grip - rather it's just the most distal pad. Is that right? Thanks!
August 10, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matthew. You nailed it. Am I here? haha.
August 10, 2020
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Matthew
Haha! Nice, got it
August 11, 2020
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Robert
I've been getting a blister on the right side of my right thumb (I'm right handed and swing with my left side forward). Is this because I'm gripping too the club too tight?
July 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. More than likely too tight and overusing it in the downswing.
July 23, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Hii craig,I found this in the level 1 certification E-book. According to the pic, most of the pressure is coming from the index,ring and middle fingers of the right hand. But in how to grip the club video, it is written that most of the grip pressure is coming from the middle and ring finger. Which one is correct?
May 8, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Monishkumar. Both are correct, but the more science data that comes out we have to adjust with the times. The index still does, but less percentage is required.
May 8, 2020
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Gary C
Okay Craig, I have been working on this some more and got a pic with both hands on the club. Wanted to check and make sure everything looked good.
April 14, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Grip doesn't look too strong on my end. Looks like it is ready to go.
April 14, 2020
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Gary C
one from a few days ago... Am I consistent and in good position in all of these or do I need to adjust something? The right hand falls into place nicely when my left hand is setup correctly. Wish I could manage to get a pic of the entire grip to show you...
April 8, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. The grip is consistent. It is a little on the strong side, but not excessive. Take a look at RST Golf Grip Effect on Swing Plane Video to understand pros and cons. But, this isn't excessively strong.
April 8, 2020
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Gary C
Here is a pic of my left hand. This position feels good to me but I keep worrying that it is too strong. I have a few others I will try to upload from a few different days of practice. I am not sure if they look as different as they seem to feel to me. I notice I have a "sweet spot" I am gravitating back to often and it is represented here in this pic. I am not sure if I am getting too picky or over thinking or if this looks good and I need to just go with it and drill it in...
April 8, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. I answered in the post on top. Don't be over picky with it. No reason you can't achieve great things with this.
April 8, 2020
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Gary C
As I have gone back and rewatched both chuck and Chris’s videos on grip and practiced more on it I feel like I am settling in to a grip that has my left hand “v” pointing slightly outside my right ear but not all the way to my right shoulder. I can see 2 1/2 knuckles from straight down and straight on and the club is resting comfortably at the base of my fingers in a way that feels natural or anatomically correct. When I add the right hand the club rests in my fingers with the left thumb resting comfortably in my life line and with my right hand “v” bisecting my arm. Both “v” lines appear parallel or very nearly parallel. My question is this: if I seem to be hitting on all other checkpoints correctly and the grip feels stable, relaxed and gives me good and proper control over the club, does it matter if my left hand “v” is pointing slightly outside my right ear? I assume too far outside is not ideal but when I adjust my left hand slightly more weak I feel as those it wants to settle back to what feels natural/comfortable and then the club face is open. Am I worrying too much about this? Here is a pic of my most recent practice session on this. Left hand only since I needed my other to take the pic...
April 8, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. I don't have the picture on my end. But, if the lead hand is in-between the shoulder and neck or slightly outside the trail ear. No worries. You just don't want it at the head, or outside the trail shoulder.
April 8, 2020
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Gary C
I’ve been playing with a strong, overlapping grip for a couple of years now and need to correct it back to neutral as I master the other aspects of the swing program. I am considering switching back to an interlocking grip but I am not sure exactly where the fingers should interlock and this aspect was mentioned in the video. Should my fingers interlock at the base of each finger or further out towards the tip? Does this matter as much as the aspects mentioned in the video regarding the thumb and forefinger line? Is there an advantage to the interlocking grip versus overlapping? I feel like the interlocking grip makes my hands feel more connected and working as one piece. Maybe more control versus the overlapping grip.
March 26, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips. Chris uses interlocking and will describe the position to you. We prefer a grip slightly stronger than neutral. Chuck and myself use overlap and Chris uses interlocking. There are pros and cons to both.
March 26, 2020
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Gary C
Can you elaborate on the pros and cons of each type of grip and what reasons might lead to me choosing one over the other?
March 26, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Simply put. Interlocking tends to get the players more handsy. If you like to manipulate ball flight a lot with arm/hand control. But, gives you more feedback to do so. Overlap easier to let go over trail hand and keep lead main focus. But, limits face maneuvering ability aided by both arms.
March 26, 2020
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Gary C
Right now I am more interested in simplicity and consistency. I am not nearly good enough to worry about manipulating the club to create different shots on the course. I would rather just have something that was simple to master and made it easy to stay consistent in how I strike the ball. Would this mean I might be better off sticking with the overlapping grip, especially since that is what I have been using for the past two years anyway?
March 26, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. I was interlocking my entire career before I switched to RST. It's my preferred method. I don't harp on people one way, or another. But, for boring golf. Overlap is the way to go.
March 26, 2020
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Gary C
Would it be a good idea to practice my grip with or without a glove on? I never play without a glove but I wonder if it would be easier to see my checkpoints without one while I practice...
March 27, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Glove shouldn't matter much. You may be able to see a little better. But, it makes relatively no difference at all.
March 27, 2020
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Matthew
Hi Craig, I’ve always had this problem where when I start hitting the ball well ( starting to hit it well! ), I have this issue where my left hand wants to roll over a lot in the hitting area. I play a natural draw already, so then I start hitting pull draws. I’ve checked my left hand grip and I can see 2 knuckles and the V lines up properly. However I can feel it where if I let the tension of the angle of the grip loose at all, it automatically shuts the club face ( even in setup ). Sometimes I’ll grip the club and not even realize it and I’m over the ball and my club face is now closed as the leverage my left wrist causes it to roll slightly left/forward, pre-set closing the face. Even if I maintain well all the way to the bottom, I almost have to hold that wrist off some or it gets the face shutting very easily. Any idea here? The more I let my wrists and hands get loose and free ( which starts happening when I’m hitting the ball better, my lead wrist really starts to roll over very easily and I get a lot of well struck, bombed, pull draws. Any ideas? Post might have been confusing but I can clarify anything if needed.
March 8, 2020
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Matthew
Just to add, I have this feeling like even in setup, I have to fight my left wrist not to roll, it almost feels straining.
March 8, 2020
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Matthew
Grip 1
March 8, 2020
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Matthew
Grip 2
March 8, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matthew. The butt of the club is hanging a little inside the meat of the hand. See how the hand is over hanging the grip. Two things: Left hand does look a little strong. Almost looks like it is aiming a trail shoulder. Also, when you get loose you more than likely re-grip it stronger. A lot of players struggle with the really loose re-grip to stronger position. Just have to be mindful. Grip correctly with pressure in last three lead fingers. Don't change.
March 12, 2020
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Gary C
It has always helped me to think about the grip like a clock face with the very top, center (where the alignment mark is) as 12 o'clock, and then thinking about positioning my thumb on my left hand properly on this clock face to help make sure I get my lead hand in the proper alignment. Where should my thumb be placed according to this video or are there any visual checkpoints I can use to place my hand so I can make sure the line between my thumb and forefinger point to my ear? Just looking for another visual cue on the grip itself as I adjust my grip and get used to how it feels...
January 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. There aren't too many visual cues. You will typically see about 2 - 2 1/2 knuckles on the side of the lead hand. Some players draw an arrow on their glove to the correct spot, so they can see that visual until it is ingrained.
January 15, 2020
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Michael
At address the shaft is resting firmly across my right palm as I'm gripping the club. At the top of the backswing, I can feel the shaft moving away from my palm. I'm not sure if I'm opening by grip or not but I'm guessing you want to keep that shaft from moving in your hand. Thanks
December 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. Right handed, or left handed swinger?
December 11, 2019
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Michael
Hi Craig, To clarify, I am right handed and I feel the shaft moving off my left palm at the top of the backswing. I tend to go to far back with the backswing and may unconsciously over-cocking my wrists. I'm guessing this is really bad and probably a contributing factor to a lot of problems.
December 12, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. I would definitely strive to stop the over cocking/swinging of the arms/hands. But, it sounds like your grip may be too weak and in the palm. You need to get the club a little more in the fingers with a slightly stronger than neutral grip. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video.
December 12, 2019
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gordon
I know I tend to grip the club too tightly and have been working hard to counteract this. Now as the weather is deteriorating the grass is longer, thicker and often wet. This complicates transport shots as well as short chips and pitches around the green. Should I be gripping more firmly for these, if so with both hands or only the shortest three fingers of the left hand (as I have heard said)? Or is there another solution, avoiding tight gripping? Thanks in advance, Gordon.
November 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gordon. With the thicker grass it will be tough to not death grip the club to make sure you have enough stability through the grass blades. Ideally, keeping just a little more pressure in the last three lead fingers as tightening the trail hand too much may cause you to over work it.
November 26, 2019
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William
Chuck, Even though I am a lefty, I enjoy your videos very much. I have two issues with my golf swing. ( However, there are those who would debate that number.) One: I am very armsy when I swing. I am trying to learn otherwise with the lower body. Secondly, I would like to have a better understanding of your video on how to grip the club. Specifically, how to hold the club in my right hand. : I would like to see the right palm more. (Don’t forget, I’m a lefty). Keep up the great work. Thanks, Bill
October 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. I will make the suggestions to Chuck. In the meantime, take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoints Tips. Also, you need the body to power the swing, but the arms are what releases the club. A blend of using body, then letting the arms release (Arms vs Body Release and You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs Video). Thanks for the compliments of our site!
October 21, 2019
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Stephen
Were you implying on the right hand , the thumb and index finger are touching or pinching together? This is for a right handed golfer.
October 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. Yes, the thumb and index close/pinching.
October 14, 2019
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Stephen
This seems like this would not allow the club to release or create tension in the swing
October 15, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. It is mainly there to help support the club and transfer force. You don't need to be pushing with it for this to occur.
October 15, 2019
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Emmanuel
Is this correct?
September 16, 2019
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Emmanuel
Alternate view
September 16, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
Hello Emmanuel. Grip looks solid to me. However I would check your posture. You look very tense. Take a look at 5 minutes to Perfect Setup video. Hinging from the Hip video also.
September 17, 2019
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Emmanuel
Thank you, I will re-review those. How non tense am I meant to be?
September 17, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
Not sure about that but for me it looks like you have too much curvature in your spine (S-posture if you will). Spine must be kept straight and neutral. Arms should hang naturally from shoulder sockets.
September 17, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
I would also add that make sure your clubs aren't too long for you. I experimented with clubs that were too long for me and it forced me to the posture which was similar to yours. Your chin is also buried in your chest. The setup videos should help you and if you can't get to those positions then check yoour equipment.
September 17, 2019
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Gary
Hi Craig, just a quick question regarding an interlocking grip. I've been using it for most of my golfing life (40+ years). Does that style of grip lend itself to other issues? Thanks
August 12, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. There are pros and cons to both grips. One is better for short fingers, manipulating ball flight, etc. However, Chuck changed my grip to overlap when starting RST because you tend to have less trail hand on the club and much easier to let it go during the release.
August 12, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
Hello Craig! Not gonna send hundred swing reviews today but I would like you to check my grip as I tend to grip it too strong. Would you tell me how would you like to see me gripping the club. A picture or close up video DTL/FO or something else? Would you like to see whole gripping process or just a finished product?
July 31, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mikko. Gripping Process from FO and DTL. Just try to move the camera a little closer. The main issue is lead too strong. The "v" should be pointed between trail shoulder and neck. Not at trail shoulder. Look at Elizabeth below. Pretty solid.
July 31, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
Thanks Craig, Elizabeths grip looks good. My problem is that every grip I have seen doesn't set the camera from the correct point of view. What I mean is that when I grip the club I look it straight down. I actually watched the video above flipped upside down to assist me. I watched the Checkpoints video but I seem to have confusion about the correct placement of the grip in my hand. That's why I would like you to look at it. I have given up on self diagnosing my swing faults as I am usually wrong..
July 31, 2019
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Elizabeth
How is my grip?
July 13, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Elizabeth. Looking great. The only thing I would mention would be ball position slightly forward making the hands a little too much in front of your lead thigh. Correct ball position (Proper Ball Position Video) and lead hand on the inside of the lead thigh (Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video). Then, all will be well.
July 13, 2019
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Elizabeth
Thank you!
July 14, 2019
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Dan
I'm not sure whether I caught it in the video or not, but what is the position of the shaft during this process? Is it perfectly vertical? A small amount of forward lean? Procedurally, I've always taken my grip with the shaft not on the ground at address, but, rather, with the shaft held up more horizontally out in front of me. Is it better to take the grip with the club in the address position?
July 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dan. You don't necessarily have to set it while on the ground. You can do it from a vertical position. Ideally, the club will be vertical at address. The lead hand should be on the inside of the lead thing. Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video. You may see a hair of lean. But, you need to shy away from the forward press.
July 8, 2019
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Julie
O.k. Thank you
June 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Julie. You're welcome.
June 21, 2019
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Julie
Is my grip good?
June 20, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Juile. I would be careful with the trail hand (right). If you look at the thumbnail for the video above. You will see the thumb on the right hand much closer to the right hand index finger. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips for further info.
June 20, 2019
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Eric
Thanks for the tip. In addition to the pushing down, it seems like too tight of tension between the forefinger and thumb wrecks the natural external rotation of the right arm, leading to a very unnatural stuck position at the top of the backswing? Activating the wrong muscles?
June 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. Yes. Because what will tend to happen is the tension will start letting the trail forearm start to counter balance the rotation of the club. Steepening the pitch of the shaft trending to be across the line, or flying trail elbow.
June 11, 2019
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Eric
The concept of pressing the forefinger and the thumb on both hands seems to be a very important thing to do. Hogan mentions it in his book and Jim McLean discusses it in his video series on Hogan. I have a natural tendency of my right arm to want to be a piston stopping the swing (also combined with a left side push that stops my body from rotating). I have been working on better body rotation, but this finger pressing seems to help a lot. Instead of the club slipping through the gap in my right thumb and forefinger (Into the elbow out piston) it forces the club up into a more elbow down position. Does this make sense? My shots at more crisp and powerful.
June 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. The forefinger and thumb will help support the club at the top. However, overly putting excessive pressure there can lead to casting, or excessive downswing pushing. Hogan did this so he could push his trail hand through the shot more to fight off hitting the hook. But, it was a compensation move.
June 10, 2019
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Mark
Although the video mentions the grip at the top of the swing it would be helpful to me to see what the grip looks like when the shaft is parallel to the ground and at the top of the swing. For instance, are both thumbs under the shaft and supporting the weight and momentum of the club at the top? Pictures from the point of view of the golfer of the grip when the shaft is parallel to the ground and at the top would be fantastic. Hopefully this all makes sense to you. Thanks for your help.
May 25, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mark. Both thumbs will be providing support. The only videos that may give you the visuals you are looking for I will list here (not exactly zoomed in though). Using the Wrists in the Golf Swing, Wrist Cock vs. Wrist Hinge and Winter Golf Training Program - Backswing and Downswing.
May 26, 2019
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Mark
Thanks, Craig.
May 26, 2019
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Eric
Along with proper posture, no rounded shoulders/proper right elbow pit up, and right hip line movement, a big help in getting rid of my flying right elbow and have it point down is the concept you discuss about keeping the forefinger presses against the thumb on both hands. If I don’t it let’s the club move between the gaps of the forefinger and thumb into almost a piston swing stop with the right elbow pointing behind me, flying. Whereas, if I keep these fingers pressed together and other proper mechanics it forces the club to move with the body and shoulder turn. I get a better shoulder turn into a nice elbow down position vs. a piston stop incomplete turn with a flying elbow? Does this make sense?
April 19, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. It sounds like instead of letting the club be too floppy in-between the fingers you only give your self one option on how to move the club. It sounds like you are using the proper pressure points in your grip which is vital for the club to work on the proper plane/path.
April 19, 2019
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Gerardo
Hi It’s very hard for me to control my right (trail) hand at grip, every time I grip, I double check that my left (lead) hand grip it’s at proper position showing at least 2 knuckles, and then I grip my right hand making the V pointing between my right ear and shoulder, but when I start with the takeaway my right hand kind off regrip and get pretty strong, in a way that I can see my hand’s nails pointing at me, I’m aware of the issue and had been trying over and over to correct it, but it’s being hard, this it’s causing me frustration, so, I will appreciate any drill that you may recommend to correct this particular issue with a strong trail hand grip. Thanks!
April 3, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gerardo. Re-gripping is very tough challenge to battle. It takes a very honed in focus to stop. If you can't keep the trail hand in place. I would check the grip size. You may have an easier time keeping the trail hand in check with an extra wrap of tape, or larger. Take a look at Are Your Grips Properly Fit Video.
April 4, 2019
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Richard
Hi. I'm finding it very hard to keep my thumb and index pinched together in my lead hand at the top of the back swing. They feel like the need to separate to get a full wrist cock at the top of the back swing. And I always feel like my trail hand can't stay on flush with the grip, it always comes away from the grip. As in my life line on my trail hand comes away from my thumb on my lead hand. Any ideas? Many thanks Richard (PS I'm a lefty, hence the use of 'lead' and 'trail')
March 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. I would say a few things. Either the grip size is incorrect, grip location is incorrect, or you are used to adding wrist cock by letting the club fall through the fingers vs the wrist angle changing. It doesn't have a drastic change. Have you submitted your grip, or swing for review?
March 26, 2019
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Richard
Hi Craig. Thanks for the response. No I haven't handed in a review yet. I just joined yesterday so I'm just learning everything at the moment. Maybe I'm jumping the gun with the back swing. Will wait and see how the grip feels when I get to that I guess
March 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. Sounds like a plan. Also, I would check for 2 things. 1. The thumb isn't too much on top of the club and straight down the shaft. You should lean a little more towards a short thumb and shouldn't be perfectly on top. 2. Take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips for more follow up on positions.
March 26, 2019
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Richard
Will do. Many thanks Craig. Richard
March 27, 2019
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Shane
Hi, everytime I play golf, be it practice or a full round, I get a really sore middle finger on my right (trailing) hand. Specifically the tip of the finger / nail area. Could this be caused by a too tight grip?
March 9, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Shane. Take a look at Are Your Grips Fit Properly Video. Could be too tight a grip, or incorrect grip size.
March 10, 2019
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Shane
Thanks for replying Craig (And on a Sunday too!). I had a look at that video and I'm pretty confident my grips are correct size. I pretty sure I'm gripping too hard, need to go back to Step 4 I think
March 13, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Shane. No problem. Proper movement and not too overly aggressive with grip pressure is a must.
March 13, 2019
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Robin
hi, should the left thumb be to the left, right or middle of the grip?
February 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robin. For a right handed golfer it will be slightly right of middle.
February 21, 2019
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Paul
Hi, I am used to playing with a weak grip and trying to change with help from vids. However, I am noticing pain in my left outer edge elbow. After some thought I am wondering if i may be rotating my left arm, maybe even from my bicept, to try and achieve desired grip. Can I recieve some reassurance that tis may be the cause and a potential fix. Thanks.
February 15, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Take a look at Cure Golf Elbow Pain. Sounds like you are improperly releasing with the new grip. Going from slightly weak to slightly strong may have started forcing more trail side takeover, or lead elbow flip.
February 15, 2019
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PRIO
When I grip the club, is there anyway I can check whether my club face is not too open or close?
January 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Prio. Take a look at RST Golf Grip Effect on Swing Plane. It will give you a little insight for your issue. But, mainly you will have to practice gripping and using the eye test to check overly closed/open.
January 10, 2019
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Michelle
Hi I have checked the grip I was using and it appears to be close to what is required as per this video. However when I grip the club with my left hand in a slightly stronger grip as recommended Chuck said that none of the butt of the grip should be visible. I can still see some with my grip and if I take a strong grip then I cannot see the butt. I have very small hands so I am guessing that because of this that is the reason some of the butt is visible with the correct grip. Any thoughts. Cheers Michelle
December 27, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michelle. If the grip is slightly stronger and you see a little butt end it maybe you have smaller hands. It doesn't sound like you are far off. However, the only thing I would check is to make sure you aren't too much in the palm. Take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips for further info.
December 27, 2018
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Tomas
Hi, I wonder if oversize grips play a role. I saw Dechambeau using maxi grips. I have big hands (I'm 6.1 tall) so I tried an oversize grip in my driver and I feel like having less tension in my arms.
December 11, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tomas. Take a look at Are Your Grips Properly Fit Video. I have to use mid-size for tension and my hand size.
December 11, 2018
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tim
Some coaches (see attached picture) encourage a full cock of the wrist prior to taking the grip, meaning the angle between hand and wrist is about 40-50 degrees rather than 15 degrees or so if the hands are hanging naturally. Would you advocate such an approach? On a similar point, should the angle of cock for the right hand mirror the angle for the left hand (whatever that is)? If so, having 40-50 degrees for both hands causes the right hand to be much less able to dominate the grip, which presumably is a good thing.
October 20, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tim. Also, the picture above is fine when taking the proper grip.
October 20, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tim. It isn't necessary to have a full wrist cock when taking the grip. Some players prefer it, but it doesn't make much difference. The trail wrist will tend to have a little more set and hinge, than the lead. But, if you want to think about it like balance. Using the visual as one wrist is setting the other will follow suit is okay.
October 20, 2018
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Alan
So Chuck advocates more of a Hoganesque diagonal in the left hand, club running from the "meaty pad" then angling towards the middle of the left index finger?? It seemed like Chris Tyler had the club running more perpendicular to the fingers, lying along the "base" of the fingers all the way across. I'm only asking because I'm trying to see which grip produces more lag coming down. Thanks!
October 14, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. Slightly diagonal would be the preferred placement. That would allow you to be slightly stronger than neutral. Best of both worlds with lag and release.
October 15, 2018
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Marc
Hi Craig, I am really struggling with my right hand when I grip the club. Though I don’t do anything with my wrist my right hand is still marginally cupped at the end of the takeaway which I think is coming from the way I grip the club with the right hand. I understand that the shaft will rest in the crease of the anular finger / ring finger but where should it rest with the index finger? Should it be in the fold between the first and the second phalange? Also should the little finger of the right hand be close to the knuckle of the index finger of the left hand to help getting rid of the right hand cupping? Best, Marc
September 3, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marc. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips as well to help. The club should run through the proximal phalanx of the index and middle two fingers. The knuckle/bone area at the base. The index finger pad between the base and first knuckle. The little finger will depend on overlap, or interlocking . Chris will show you in that video how to place.
September 3, 2018
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Marc
Hi Craig, I was checking my takeaway yesterday after a pretty average round and realized that my right wrist was cupped at the end of the takeaway whereas Chuck’s wrist is flat. But as I know that I am not moving my wrist during the takeaway I came to realise that my right wrist is cupped when I grip my club. It is actually the first time that I notice this but it seems that the back of Chuck’s palm is flat when he grips the club which would imply that the right hand is externally rotated. Is this correct? Best, Marc
September 2, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marc. Take a look at Right Wrist in the Takeaway Video and Right Elbow Pit Video. The combination of the "V" aimed properly with the trail hand and the trail elbow pit location will help you with the Chuck look. It may feel like some slight external rotation to reach the position/look.
September 2, 2018
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Nick
10 finger vs overlap vs interlock. Advantages/disadvantages? Is it physically harder to gain max lag with 10 finger grip just because the way the wrists work?
August 11, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nick. All have pros and cons. This could end up being a long thread. I will sum it up like this. Most trail side dominant players tend to like Overlap for less trail hand interference. Interlocking is good for shot shaping and adding more trail arm. 10 finger is basic and easy, but can get a little trail hand dominant with so many fingers on the club.
August 11, 2018
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Nick
Thanks Craig. I am a 2 handicap and have been playing with a 10 finger grip for a long time. I have been doing 9 to 3 and feel like I can get much more lag with either of the other two without over rotating the club. I grew up playing with the other two so I am not worried about it totally messing me up. I was just curious if you guys had looked into this at alll.
August 11, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nick. Yes, it is one of those issues where they both have pros/cons. There isn't a definitive debate science wise yet to which is the perfect model.
August 12, 2018
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Brett
20 years of golf all with interlock. I’m very trail hand dominate (4 handicap), and am considering going to overlap to combat this problem (along with other things). Thanks for providing that insight!
December 31, 2018
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Dan
I tend to have a wear mark from my left thumb on the grip (I'm a RH player.) Additionally, when I'm at the top, I have a LOT of loss of control of the club. My wrists (and, subsequently, the club head) are pretty loose. What might that indicate about a potential flaw in my grip? Is it possible to have the grip TOO much in the fingers of the left hand? I do have a short thumb-- but am I supposed to feel active pinching together of the thumb and forefinger there? I'm flexible with a medium-flat swing, so I struggle with a seemingly incurable overswing, despite having right knee flex, being loaded into the right hip, turning properly, etc. I am suspicious of my grip because when I get to the top, the club bounces and then starts an involuntary casting, despite transferring my wait properly and never, ever pushing from the right side. This video doesn't cover much on the bottom view of the hands, so I wonder about being too far into the fingers. Any thoughts that might help me tune this up?
July 19, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Daniel. Yes, you can get too much in the fingers. Typically, you would see your grip getting a bit strong and some excess cupping. Thumb wear is usually from thumb push. Sounds like you are pushing. Ideally, a slight pinch between the thumb and index finger. You don't need a very aggressive hold as that would create excess tension. Use the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video for better views on where to place the club in the lead hand. Are you overswinging solely due to amount of wrist set? Or, does your trail arm tend to bend too much?
July 19, 2018
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Dan
One more question for you, Craig: I've watched the video on pushing with the left thumb but I don't recall it explaining why the push happens. Is grip the cause? The video also suggests that you should practice swing with your thumb off of the shaft to feel/retain lag-- but the thumb will be back on the shaft when you're actually taking swings. So if I am, in fact, pushing with the left thumb, what is the remedy for that? My self-diagnosis is that the wear mark happens because, when I hold the club too far in the fingers, the club becomes unstable and just wobbles/wears on the grip where the thumb is trying to support it. I'm not sure whether I'm actually pushing or not. :(
July 20, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Daniel. The cause is usually a trained movement in an effort to create more speed, or to steer the club. Sometimes a poor grip. You have to train not using it. There isn't a quick fix sadly except taking it off. Feeling what it is like not to over use. And, then gradually adding without trying to hit it from the top or manually steer the face. Soft wrists and proper transitioning to the lead side will help.
July 20, 2018
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Dan
This is all great stuff. Though my V on the lead hand points toward my right ear, I think I probably DO have too much cupping. I made a slight grip adjustment today and had a fantastic range session. My dispersal tightened up and I felt like I had way more control over the club head than I usually feel. I'm guessing I still have an overswing but I haven't shot video since this change earlier today. I practice in front of a mirror and I look like I'm in a perfect position but momentum seems to mess some stuff up now and again. I think I sometimes lose a little connectivity in the backswing from perhaps lifting the arms too high. I'll shoot some video in the next day or two and maybe have you do my swing review. Thanks for the grip fix. It seems better already.
July 19, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Daniel. Great. Sounds like you are on the road to recovery. Would be happy to look at a swing for you.
July 20, 2018
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Chris
Just unable to get the hands on properly or be consistent with it? For me there is a tendency for the club to be shut/closed after taking the left hand grip so there's a move or technique I'm doing that causes this? I find it difficult to get the fleshy pad sufficiently over and on top of the grip to provide sufficient support, hand just seems to sit at the side of the grip and it's very inconsistent so while I tinker, that situation becomes worse. People look and say yeah that looks good and well formed but it feels wrong and insecure leading to increased pressure. I'm flipping the club at impact or trying to guide too much with the left leading to weak release or none at all, shortened finish of the swing. I'm convinced it's grip. I had someone tell me to bring in my forearm really trying to put the fleshy pad on top of the grip, almost wrapping it on because placing and closing my hand leaves the club too loose, struggling with this now for too long and I'm wondering if there's less fleshy prominence than most. Taking the grip with arms out, grip at waist height and when finished the club is almost 45 degrees shut...help? The 6 o'clock (spine) of the grip is on the crease of my pinky right at the base, almost pinching the little fleshy pad above it. I'm so used to wrapping on my left hand i'd rather work with it but the shut club is an issue I need to address,Thanks!
July 2, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chris. It would be really hard to determine without seeing it. Take a look at the Golf Grip Tips Video and the Gorilla Grip Video. The face shouldn't be shutting down as much as yours is. Do you have the same issue when trying to take the grip more neutral than strong?
July 2, 2018
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Andrew
Could you please clarify one aspect of the left hand grip for a right handed golfer. It is related to which fleshy part of the left hand the top of the club anchors against. There are 2 fleshy parts I see that could be used on the left hand to create the main anchor for the top of the grip. One is the fleshy part below the left thumb. I have seen some instructors recommend to use this which means the grip runs more up the palm of the left hand than the fingers. Others recommend to use the fleshy part below the left pinky finger which means the shaft runs more against the base of the fingers. I am not 100% sure based on the video but it looks like this pinky anchor is also the recommendation of the RST method. Could you confirm this is correct and also why this anchor point is preferred? I assume it is due to the ability to hinge the wrist more easily? I just want to be sure I have this correct.
May 14, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andrew. Yes, more the pinky anchor, or meaty part at the base of the finger. Allows for easier set/hinge. Too much in the palm will tend to lead to lack of wrist setting and improper roll in the release.
May 15, 2018
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Rick
Hi guys, loving the videos! I've been right side dominant for a long time. I've worked my way through all the steps and like most I'm having trouble adding the trail arm. But I find I'm able to maintain my lag and feel the sensation of down cocking when I completely relax my right hand grip pressure and allow the club to move between my right thumb and index finger just as Chuck shows at 6:02. Left hand stays in control and I'm able to make very solid contact. Do you think it is OK to allow this feeling while I'm learning how to produce lag?
April 26, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rick. Glad you are enjoying the videos. You may allow for little movement while training to keep turning off your trail side. In the long run you would want it to stay put for power and control purposes.
April 26, 2018
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Andrew
Hi guys. With getting used to grip exercise & using it with the rest of the setup, should the club face be square at address when you set up correctly & have both hands on the grip? I can't see this on the videos & from watching pro setups. When I grip the club with my left hand, before adding the right hand, the left hand naturally wants to fall inwards, opening the club face. That feels more natural. Thanks for the info
March 31, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andrew. Ideally the proper grip on the club and face square at address. You will see some players allow for the natural open/fall inwards. However, from that position you will need to make adjustments in the swing to compensate. And, it may play with your alignment too much.
March 31, 2018
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Hector
I have been playing with short thumb and I feel that I don't have control of the club and sometimes when I swing my left thumb comes out of the club !! Today I was seeing tigers practice and he uses long thumb !!! He keeps the thumb completely in the club . I tried and now I can feel I using both hands in the swing !!! Any help ? Suggestion !!!
March 8, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. We prefer closer to a short thumb. Just because a pro does something doesn't mean that you should (Who cares what tour pros do? Video). Take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips for further help on the grip.
March 8, 2018
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Scott
Where on your left hand should the butt of the grip be?
March 7, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Scott. The butt shouldn't be inside the hand. Barely on the outside.
March 7, 2018
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Tyler (Certified RST Instructor)
Ive always used an interlock, because it was kind of the popular option. However it seems to make sense that the overlap takes your right hand out of it a little bit, which makes sense when youre trying to allow your left hand to be dominant. What are the RST thoughts on this? I also dont have big hands, does that change what grip i should use?
February 22, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tyler. Chuck and Myself use Overlap for the exact purpose you describe. However, it is an option (Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video). People with smaller hands tend to like interlocking because of a sense of connection.
February 22, 2018
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Hector
Short or long thumb ? Left thumb should be pinched with the crease ? How I use the left 3 fingers in the downswing without using the thumb ?
January 11, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. Short Thumb. Yes, the thumb and pointer should be pinched. Lots of practice to turn off the thumb. It is an active motion that you need to become aware of. I wish I could provide a quick tip to stop it.
January 11, 2018
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John
I think a more condensed discussion on the grip broken into (2) sections. One the basic grip and the other discussing weak and strong.
January 10, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. A simpler look at the grip is under Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips.
January 10, 2018
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John
Craig Thanks for the reply. Just thought breaking that section into two parts would make that video easier to digest. John
January 10, 2018
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Steven
To rephrase should you always use the same strength grip? I have weakened my grip as per my swing review and it has worked great for my iron striking. Now the ball has been going off to the left (I am a lefty) when hitting driver and woods. Can I strengthen my grip for these clubs or is something fundamentally off now that grip has changed a bit?
November 4, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steven. I would shy away from continually changing the grip. Sounds like a improper mechanical move causing the woods problem.
November 6, 2017
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Steven
Should you always use the same grip for every club?
November 4, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steven. You can make adjustments in the short game. But, pretty standard across the board.
November 6, 2017
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Steven
I have been using the interlocking grip but only because someone told me it's the most popular. I am in my first year and since using RST I am playing around with the Vardon grip and feel somewhat comfortable with it. How do I determine which is best to use? Chuck mentions that most of the swing should come from the lead hands last three fingers (my right hand because I am lefty) The Vardon grip allows one more finger onto the club. Is that good or bad? I am prepared to switch my grip to Vardon but would like to know more about the differences and how it could be good or bad for my ball striking.
October 31, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Steven, I am very familiar with the Vardon grip and I can only say that the grip that he taught, was not anatomically backed like the grip you are learning here. The difference of grips, will allow the club to rotate properly during the swing and will allow you to release the club with more ease through the the hitting area.
October 31, 2017
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Steven
Hi Chris, I am a bit confused. When I am referring to the Vardon grip I am referring to the overlapping grip. I am unsure of whether to interlock or overlap the lead index finger to trailing hand pinky.
November 1, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
You can use overlap or interlock. I personally use interlock and find that it's pretty spit among the other students. My apologies for the confusion.
November 1, 2017
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Krishna
is it ok for the right palm to come off the handle in the finish position? From what I can see, this only happens towards the end of the foreswing and the grip is firm at impact
October 22, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Krishna. No problems if the trail hand comes off a little after you release.
October 23, 2017
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Frederick
Still not sure exactly how to place the left hand on the club. Club seems to be slipping and not comfortable
October 18, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frederick. Follow this video up with Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips. See if it helps.
October 18, 2017
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Mark
I understand, must avoid the right hand push and hands and arms must follow properly to create appropriate lag.
September 26, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mark. Correct.
September 26, 2017
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Mark
Do you have any issue with going to a 10 finger baseball grip? I have been have left wrist problems and found that if i go neutral on left hand and use baseball grip that i have less problems with wrist pain, especially when hitting a fat shot. Thanks.
September 26, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mark. You may use the grip you are comfortable with. We recommend the Overlap or Vardon Grip. Make sure you get the "v's" aimed correctly and club aligned in the hand to the proper pressure points. The baseball grip can tend to get a lot of hand off the club. The main thing is if you can use that grip and not allow any trail hand interference especially coming down.
September 26, 2017
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Ian
At the top of the backswing if you just remove your right hand will the club shaft pressure be on the left thumb or will it be spread between the thumb and forefinger ie in the V .
September 16, 2017
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Little bit of both, but try to focus more on holding it with the last three fingers of the left.
September 18, 2017
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Rob
What is your take on the right pinky- overlap or interlock or?
August 18, 2017
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Overlap offers a few advantages, the biggest of which is it makes it easier to release the club with the right hand when working on the left hand drills.
August 19, 2017
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Scott
Any recommendations regarding interlocking vs. overlap vs. ten finger? I've always done interlocking but I'm wondering if it's encouraging me to put too much pressure in my right arm preventing me from having a left sided pulling motion. Thank you!
July 21, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Scott, I personally interlock and work with players that do both forms of the grip. By interlocking, you shouldnt really be encouraging more pressure that could result in what you say. Sounds like you need to play around with both styles of grips and see what gives you the best results.
July 21, 2017
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Wayne
My golf "buddies" tell me that the left arm and club shaft should be in a straight line to to the ball. They say there should be no bending or cupping of the left wrist at address. In face on view when set up to hit a normal shot, should there be a straight line from the left shoulder, through the left arm and wrist to the ball?
July 18, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Wayne, I would fire your golf buddies from being your golf instructor asap Ask them why this is important and how it effects your movements in the golf swing anatomically. The lead wrist will have some cupping in it at address. When the lead arm hangs off a neutral shoulder position and then grips the club a slight amount of cupping has to take place in order to be able to grip the club as outlined here in this video.
July 18, 2017
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GC
What do the forefinger Middle finer and forth finger of the right hand do in the golf swing?
June 25, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Lightly hang onto the club!
June 26, 2017
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GC
On the right hand - if I use my middle finger / I read that triggers right shoulder muscle. Earlier comments you indicated that for the right hand forefinger Third and forth fingers are key. If I am trying to switch off my right shoulder for the time being, should I just try making my middle finger more passive - whilst keeping pressure in forefinger and fourth finger. Would that work?
June 25, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Yes, that is correct. You need to keep the pressure down in these fingers during the swing.
June 26, 2017
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shulei
Left hand v point to the right ear but the right hand v point to the center not to the right shoulder.I don't know why.I have a very small hand.
June 14, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Shulei. The goal would be the lead hand to point at the trail ear or between the shoulder and trail ear. With the trail hand pointing at the trail shoulder socket. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoints Tips Video.
June 14, 2017
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Robert
Does the shaft pinch the little fat pad above the base of the pinky and then run along the base of the ring and middle fingers or does it run along the base of all three? I've always wondered this. This is one point the video really doesn't show in detail. Thank you!
June 4, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. I'm sorry your question was lost in the system. It should run across the base of the last three fingers (slightly diagonal). Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video.
June 14, 2017
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Eric
This video has helped my game dramatically. I bought Hogan's 5 Modern Fundamentals, but I wasn't a good student. Pinching the forefinger and the thumb together has had a very positive effect. Not only on not having the club slip (I had a wear pattern on my glove on the padbelow my pinky) but I noticed I started hinging better in the takeaway -club straight up at toe up position. This made me curious and I think pinching the thumb and forefinger forces you to maintain pressure in the last three fingers of the left hand and the middle two of the right, thereby activating the bottom tendons if the forearm. Pressing them together also tends to keep them lightly off the club, keeping the tendons on the top of the forearms inactive. Does this make sense? Maybe you are saying this, the pinching of the forefinger and thumb helps set a brace at the top of the swing, but it also forces you to have proper grip pressure, which leads to proper hinging and for me no flying elbow?
May 9, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. I'm glad this video has help you improve your swing. Proper hinging may help with the flying elbow, but usually due to improper flexion and lack of external humeral rotation. The pinching does help with support and brace at the top. Also, helping with grip pressure to create the proper setting of the wrists. I couldn't say for sure though if it forces you to solely activate the last three fingers properly.
May 9, 2017
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Eric
Ok, thanks. Which videos best discuss how to practice proper flexion and humoral rotation? When I don't pinch my right forefinger and thumb together, the club starts slipping through the gap between the thumb and forefinger, leading to a flying elbow and bad shaft position. When I press them together is feels like it forces my elbow to point down to the ground versus out? Does this make any sense?
June 29, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. 3 Functions of the Right Arm. Yes, you need to have that little pinch to help support the club.
June 29, 2017
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jerry
Should the creases in your elbows be pointing outward/away from you at address? Also, is it ok to place your arms on your chest address (use is as a platform if you will?) Doing these two things seems to help keep my arms and body in sync during the takeaway. Jerry
May 8, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jerry. You want the elbow pits pointed away from the body. But, the arms not too much externally rotated where the elbows are locked out (Gorilla Grip). The arms won't rest solely on top. Resting with some awareness of the sides to the upper pectorals.
May 8, 2017
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David
I have always held club too tight and caused damage to my fingers so then I went to baseball grip. I'm finding it difficult to learn exactly what I should be doing just by watching the video.
May 2, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. Use this video as well with the Golf Grip Tips Video. It may help you further.
May 3, 2017
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Hector
left hand the meaty part goes over the grip at the end of the grip of the club or you leave a cap of half an inch ?
April 5, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. You don't want the meaty part hanging over the butt end.
April 6, 2017
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Ed
My right index finger's first knucle skin on top side of finger is getting broken/torn from practicing this grip. Actually the practices have shown considerable improvement in ball control with the correct grip. I had a weak grip that create a fade at best most times and on a bad day I couldn't stop slicing. What am I doing to cause this skin scrapping? Am I holding the club to tight or lose? Help. In the mean time I am taping the area up.
March 18, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ed. (If right handed swinger) You could have improper placement. Take a look at the Grip Tips Video.
March 19, 2017
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Ed
Craig, I went out today and played a practice 9 holes, with emphasis on the grip. Right hand was low on the grip but in to strong a position caused my knuckles to rub together. The right hand ring finger was exerting to much pressure. I went with a grip, as suggested here, but had the club resting in the right hand without pressure being exerted.(at least it felt that way) I think being right handed caused the right hand to unwittingly add more pressure than was necessary. No more scrapping and better flight, direction, and distance control. Thx for the support.
March 19, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ed. No problem for the support. Glad it was improved today. The trail hand can be a real bugger in the swing. Continue to focus on making it less dominant.
March 19, 2017
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Ed
I have been a member of the site for a while. I have been going at my own pace. My best GHIN was 17. It slipped for a couple of years to 19.8. Now I am down to 18.6. Based on the grip change and other drills my shots are better quality and I can see my handicap dropping another stoke and a half shortly.
March 20, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ed. We appreciate the support of our site. Sounds like you are starting to trend in the proper direction.
March 20, 2017
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Hector
when you hold the club and already you have the perfect grip , where I put my hands, in my zipper or inside my left quadriceps?
March 10, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. Inside part of the lead thigh. You can see that in the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video and Common Golf Setup Faults and Fixes Video.
March 11, 2017
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Hector
ok the left hand , the meaty pad have to be completely above the grip? any grip cap visible? my gloves broke at the meaty pad and if I try to put all the pad above the grip is uncomfortable to me but is when I hit the ball better and stronger. any suugestions
March 10, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. You may have a little stronger grip. It will affect some positions. But, not a deal breaker. You don't want to be covering the butt end. You should be able to see just a little cap as to not wear the glove out and cause instability.
March 10, 2017
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Hector
first question, left hand long thumb or short thumb? second is when you put your right hand in the left thumb knuckle , are we supposed to see the left distal thumb through the grip? or inferiorly through the right hand or the left thumb should not be visible?
March 3, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. Short thumb. For most players (genetics aside - overly large hands), the lead thumb shouldn't be visible.
March 3, 2017
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George
One way to keep the left hand straight is to keep pressure on the left thumb by the lifeline of the right hand. Can you comment of this statement? Thanks.
February 15, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello George. That is a trick that can work. But, it may lead too excessive tension and you would still have to be conscious of the trail arm fold.
February 15, 2017
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Rockford
I was wondering if you guys recommend interlock or overlap grip?
January 28, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rockford. Personal preference. Chuck and Myself tend to use overlap because it helps quiet the usage of the trail hand. Chris prefers interlock because it sometimes will provide more feel to work a shot. But, players have to watch for getting too handsy.
January 28, 2017
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Rockford
Thanks
January 29, 2017
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jeffrey
if you have large hands, should you have a fatter grip?
January 28, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jeffrey. I use mid-size because I have large hands and long fingers. However, unless you have really big hands you typically don't need too fat of grips. The fatter the grip the more the wrists will tend not to set.
January 28, 2017
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Paul
Feel I've always had an issue with my grip and never properly diagnosed. The pad of my left hand does't seem to sit naturally on the club and I get a lot of pressure under my thumb. And it triggers tension up in to my left forearm. I'm not a big hinger of the club either. It's more like Stricker. In years past I use to get a wear spot through the thumb of my glove and a wear spot on my grips. It's better now because I understand the swing better and have made some adjustments. And my left elbow points to the target not my body. Believe this is all related to my anatomy, If i grip the club when I hang it horizontally across my thighs I seem to get a more natural grip. And than let the club go down to address position Curious to your thoughts. Touch one to diagnose online.
January 22, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Hmm. I don't know why gripping it across the thigh would make it feel more natural. I know lots of players use that trick as a way to grip the club properly. If you are able to achieve proper holding of the club and dial down the tension in the lead thumb. Doesn't sound like it should hurt your progress.
January 23, 2017
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Paul
Craig, Have you come across this before with others -what I initially described - and found a resolution? It's not the size of the grip, figure it's my anatomy. Been tough to figure a way to get the pressure out of the base of the thumb holding the club.
January 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Is your lead thumb laying completely flat down the shaft or is it a short thumb creating a little gap? Also, do you have it enough in the fingers and not too much in the pad?
January 24, 2017
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Paul
Thumb is arched, hard to get it flat because pad is not flush to club. Def in fingers. Tough analysis online. My first swing review is up so see if they see it. Thanks
January 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Okay. Just making sure it wasn't flat. If you could for your swing review. I would film you grip. Open the palm a show how you take the grip on the club from close up.
January 24, 2017
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RANDY
Which is better...pinky on top of index finger or in the valley made by the index and middle finger
December 7, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Randy. Overlap or Interlocking is personal preference. Myself and Chuck use overlap. Chris, Tiger and Jack N. use interlocking. They both have slight pros and cons. Either one is acceptable.
December 7, 2016
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Eric
Should there be a little space between the left fore finger and the middle finger, which creates a little slot for the right pinky to latch on to the left index finger in overlap grip? It seems to the the case with Chuck's left hand grip.
October 21, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. You might have a little space, but there shouldn't be too much or require any for the overlap. The interlocking will be a different story. Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video.
October 22, 2016
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Eric
Hi Craig. Just wanted to say I incorporated about three of your corrections and just shot a 75. Normally, I'd have to sweat pretty hard to shoot such a score, but today, it felt "easy." It sort of feels like I'm overhauling my swing, but finally correctly. Can't wait to delve more deeply into other areas!
October 22, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. Fantastic. Look forward to continued progression!
October 23, 2016
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T David
It appears on the video that the left thumb is about 12 o'clock on the club and right thumb comes in about 11 o'clock on the grip. As a checkpoint, how should I feel the club in my hands at the top of the swing? Should this feel be between the right thumb and pointer finger? Left thumb?
October 14, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. Both hands will have the feeling of support. You will feel it settle into the trail thumb/pointer as you described. The lead thumb will feel like it is helping a little with stability.
October 14, 2016
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Caleb
I noticed that as you applied a strong grip the natural bow in the left wrist got flatter and the hands are more forward of the ball. Since the ideal position of the hands leading the club face is correct and RST's theory is using the least amount of movement; would not starting in this position be ideal?
October 8, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Caleb. Address and impact are two different positions. The closer your address position is similar to impact the more you are taking away it's dynamics. Address is a static position and impact is dynamic. Think about lag. You wouldn't want to get max wrist set in the backswing because you wouldn't be able to increase on the downswing. The only way to maintain would be very slow and stiff (merely holding the angle). Same with address and impact.
October 8, 2016
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Caleb
So how much left wrist cupping is ideal, how much is too little or too much?
October 8, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Caleb. Use this video combined with the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips and Using the Wrist Effectively and Efficiently Video. There should be a little cupping at setup. If you are getting enough cup to see all your knuckles that would be too much. Too little if you only see one knuckle.
October 8, 2016
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Ashar
my confusion is my right hand. I think that my right hand slips and my grip go week on the right hand. If the terminology week grip could be used for the right hand. My swing reviews could also mention that. Even i don't know if it is right or wrong. Now i have bought one grip trainer by SKLZ and i am still confused. My right hand nuckels tend to facing down.
September 30, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ashar. The trail hand can get weak. It would start to get too much on top of the shaft and the "v" would point more towards the head versus trail shoulder. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video.
September 30, 2016
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Donald
On a scale of 1 to 10. How much should we gripping the club. I've focused on keeping the grip very light about 2 and especially my thumbs and seem to be getting a bit more distance and better ball flight. Is this okay or too light with the grip..?? Cheers Donald
September 14, 2016
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Donald, Great question here. On a scale from 1-10, we try to get students to aim between 2-4 on that scale, so it sounds like you are doing things just perfect. The more grip pressure, the harder it is to let the club release.
September 14, 2016
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Eric
Ben Hogan wrote about this in Modern Fundamentals. I really have to keep my right forefinger and thumb off the club at address. I tend to get these "pincher fingers" active and on the downswing if they pinch the club I causes an over the top from the left shoulder, destroying lag. The left thumb does still provide some support at the top of the swing, but keeping the forefinger off avoids the pinch. I do keep the side of the right thumb touching the hand at the lifeline, squeezed together. Is this ok, you mentioned passive, this is technically off the grip of the club.
August 15, 2016
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Eric
Thanks, your site is really amazing, I understand golf for the first time in 20 years. I've sent a lot of my golf buddies here. Something subtle that I figured out from this video is that I have been doing the Ben Hogan thing from Five Fundamentals, putting the club under the heal pad of the left hand (so you can hold it with just pad and forefinger. I have a big callus on my pad and I wear out gloves there). I struggle with a periodic pull, just noticed my left hand is too strong and doesn't connect well with the right. I think this is because of the positioning across the palm (per Mr. Hogan - who had a much weaker grip, to compensate?). I will try putting it across the bottom of the fingers/top of the palm. That feels better, better fit between the thumb on the left and the crease in the palm of my right. Thanks, wish you had an RST instructor in Northern California! Eric
August 16, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. The only reason we mention passive is the club sometimes can get too unstable at the top if the trail hand isn't there for support. Try to have them lightly on in the backswing. You can let them go coming down similar to the VIjay Release Drill if you would like.
August 16, 2016
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Donald
I have pain in my right thumb (I'm left handed) after hitting golf balls and wanted to know if you had any suggestions as to why I'm having pain now. I have not had any previous injuries to this thumb in the past. Also, what checkpoints I should be tracking when gripping the club and throughout the swing that will aid in swinging pain free. Thanks for your help!
August 1, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Don. If you are swinging left handed making your right thumb the lead thumb. Take a look at the Left Thumb Video and Frisbee Drill. You are probably pushing it too hard against the shaft.
August 2, 2016
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Donald
Thanks Craig. I also noticed a wear mark on my golf grips where my right thumb is on the club. Is this also an indication of pushing too hard or another issue?
August 2, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Don. Wear marks on the lead thumb is usually pushing the lead thumb. Wear marks around the glove palm or pad is typically gripping in the palm too much.
August 2, 2016
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Donald
Thanks Craig!
August 2, 2016
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Ian
Have been looking at my swing at the top, suffer with massive over swing so been working on loading right glute which is shortening my back swing. What i see at the top is a very cupped upward left wrist as opposed to what i see in rst and the pros having a flat or cupped down left wrist. I believe my grip is fairly neutral but the question is how my wrists are at set up. My set up has my wrist cocked up so there is an angle between my forearm and wrist, when i tilt my hand forward at address so there is no angle and the feeling i have is of my wrist being high, when i get to the top set up this way, my wrist is flat and even slightly the cocked with a raised wrist, the club also looks in a better position. is this correct. Thanks Ian.
July 24, 2016
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Ian, you shouldn'e be trying the manipulate your hands into any position at address to achieve a position at the top of the swing. If your grip is in line with this video and your arms are hanging freely at address, then we can get you to a flat left wrist at the top. Check out the using the wrists effectively and efficiently video and see if you get any help there. If not, lets get your swing in for review so we can take a close look. https://rotaryswing.com/videos/full-swing-advanced/introduction/using-the-wrists-effectively-and-efficiently
July 25, 2016
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Malcolm
Grip is an area of confusion for me and I want to correct it. I understand weak strong etc but there is a markedly different feel to normal vs short (feels better to me) left thumb. Also the angle that the club sits (straight down vs impact position) will effect the face position in relation to the hands. What position should the hands (forward or midline), shaft and face be in relation to each other when taking the grip? Mal
July 16, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Malcolm. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoints Tips. You want the face square to the intended target and the club vertical at setup.
July 18, 2016
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Gary
Can someone please answer my question below from the 24th April, thanks.
May 15, 2016
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
I answered below. Not sure why we missed it.
May 15, 2016
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Ray
Hit balls for the first time today since signing up. Only up to the set up but am taking it away with the right shoulder blade, shifting from right heel to left heel and pulling it hard with the left. My grip is fairly neutral and, although I flushed better than 9 out of ten, the shots were a little right and I didn't feel as though I could fully release. I'm going to work on turning the left hand a 1/4 inch stronger and go back on Saturday. Any comments? I was wearing out the sweet spot just a hair toward the heel about the size of an oblong quarter, the misses being on the bottom score lines when I didn't compress. It feels like the left hand may be weak. I'd appreciate your thoughts.
May 13, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ray. Take a look at the Golf Grip Tips Video. It would be hard to say what is exactly the cause without seeing your swing, but make sure the lead hand "v" is pointing in between the shoulder and the neck.
May 14, 2016
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Gary
I understand I should be gripping with the last 3 fingers of left and middle 2 of the right hand. I want to understand (particularly in the left hand ) what the left thumb and index actually do. I tend to grip the club by the stated fingers only and I feel it dramatically reduces my feel for where the club is at on the back and downswing and causes me inconsistency. Thanks in advance.
April 24, 2016
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Steven (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary- The index finger and thumb (for both hands) should be pinched together, that's what creates the "V shape" for each hand. The index finger will just be comfortably wrapped around the grip. The left hand "V" should point just outside the right side of the head while the right hand "V" should point almost directly up the right arm. There should be no space between the thumb and index finger. Pinching them together adds stability to the grip.
April 24, 2016
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Gary
Thanks for the quick response Steven. The only issue I have when I pinch these together is that I can't get my right hand comfortable over my left thumb. I have 'hitchhikers thumb' and the connection between the left thumb and the grip is at the middle joint of my thumb. My right hand Seems to break free from the left at the top of the backswing.
April 25, 2016
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Gary
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May 2, 2016
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
The left thumb and the index finger should be passively on the club. Just meaning they should be in a relaxed position. If they are breaking apart then, we need to look at where the club is seated in your left hand at address.
May 15, 2016
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gary
I have a question about how to get the butt of the club to point at the belt buckle. Mine always seems to point at the belly button. Is this a grip issue, setup issue etc…?
April 5, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. It could be the way the arms are hanging at address. Take a look at the Dustin Johnson Setup for Consistency Video and make sure the arms are hanging properly from the shoulder joints (the hands relaxed for a little bit of hinge at setup).
April 5, 2016
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Lane
Quick question I want to verify. I am right handed. When I grip the club with the left hand. The meaty pad opposite of my thumb side(below pinky finger) should rest on top of the club as stated in the 4:07 minute mark in video? thanks
March 21, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lane. Yes. That is correct. It will help with stability and not allowing the club to twist at the base. If you notice a lot of wear in the base of your glove. More than likely the culprit.
March 22, 2016
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Lane
That helps and I now understand why I burn through gloves.
March 22, 2016
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David
Hi Craig, Given that at address the left wrist is set in a cupped position with a square club face (right wrist flat) and that at the top of the back swing we ideally have a flat or slightly bowed left wrist, I would have thought that would encourage the face would to come into impact closed.
March 21, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. The difference is impact and address are 2 different positions. Dynamic vs Static. Forward hands/shaft lean vs Vertical/minimal shaft lean.
March 21, 2016
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Mark
I need help getting the right hand on the club correctly. Using the overlap grip, does the middle knuckle of the left index finger go right to the base of the little and ring finger gap of the right hand or should the first knuckle of the left index finger be there? Thanks. Mrt.
March 9, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mark. The left index finger middle knuckle will be split by the right pinky and ring finger. In the gap created by separating the (pinky and ring).
March 9, 2016
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Chan
Is the grip affected by the type of golf club you have? For instance, I have the Adams A12OS Idea hybrids with somewhat of an offset face. Does that mean I should have a weaker grip to match the off set?
March 7, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Chan. I would prefer not tweaking the grip due to the offset. However, some players do as a counter balance. Try to maintain a little more bow through the release. It will help with the shaft lean and keeping to face squarer a touch longer.
March 7, 2016
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James
In a proper grip is there a gap or space in the left hand between the face of the grip and the meaty pad below the thumb or the palm?
February 26, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. There might be a little space underneath the base to the thumb and face of the grip.
February 27, 2016
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Dave
How far from butt end of the club should the left hand be for a right handed golfer? I tend to be almost on the end by the butt and I am wondering if that is affecting the lay of the club I the ground?
February 9, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. You don't want the grip over lapping the butt end of the club because of loss of stability. Make sure there is just a little of the butt end left sticking out after gripping.
February 9, 2016
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Chris
I always overlapped the grip end and suffered from poor accuracy. Leaving a little room at the end of the grip really tightened up my shots. Hard to believe how much this helped.
October 13, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great Chris. Yes, you need to make sure you don't grip at the base of the club and have the butt end covered by the hand.
October 13, 2016
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Ross
James did a swing review for me and advised me to take a more neutral grip. Unfortunately I couldn't really see what he meant because the video was showing a static down the line picture for most of the review. Could you have a look and advise?
January 18, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ross. I am unable to access your video once the review has been completed. In the meantime, he was probably referring to your lead hand "v". Make sure the lead hand "v" is aimed in between the trail ear and shoulder.
January 18, 2016
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Lance
After hitting balls yesterday I noticed my grip getting weaker subconsciously as I was working on the release drills. After catching this my shots went straight again. Long story short I saw an interview with Jim Furyk on the Golf Channel golf academy that I had recorded last night. He stated that because his hands are bigger he has his left hand on the club more in the palm rather than the fingers. I then noticed my grip (left hand) has been more in the fingers. I have bigger hands too. So I made the adjustment to get it more in the palm and immediately had more stability with it being easier to roll the hands during the release without cupping. Does this line up with Chuck's statement in this video about the left hand gripping in the palm?
November 21, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lance. You don't want the club too much in the palm. You need are looking for the club to be more around the base of the hand. Therefore, you can use the last three fingers properly in the release. If you palm the club too much. It will affect wrist hinge and activation of the proper pressure points. You might need bigger grips. I had to switch to Mid-Size for the same reasoning. It still sounds like you might be on the right track though. If you still have some control with the last three you should be okay.
November 21, 2015
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Lance
Thanks for this Craig. I guess I am really trying to pinpoint the optimum location. Previously I was placing the club just above the ring of my ring finger across the lower pad of my bottom three fingers and into the middle pad of the first finger of the left hand. So the adjustment I made yesterday was to lay the club just below the calluses at the bottom of the last three fingers into the bottom pad of the forefinger on the left hand. I have used larger grips for many years and they are comfortable. I worked yesterday on the release with my 3 iron and 9 iron and had solid contact. I was noticing more curving of the ball both ways with unintentional variations of my left hand at impact which is new to me. I don't think it was caused by cupping either but will start to video it to confirm this. Back to the grip - is just below the calluses of the bottom 3 fingers too much in the palm? My biggest struggle of late is learning to release the club properly without cupping (bowed to flat left wrist into and through impact). That is why I thought my grip may need adjustment. What is it in the grip that enables the left wrist to avoid cupping? I understand better that I must eliminate the overactive right hand as well - I have been working on "losing the right hand" drills. Thanks for everything Craig. This yearly membership has been well worth the money. All the videos and feedback have improved my swing for sure - just trying to get the proper release trained. Also I am finding it easier to work through all the primary checkpoints subconsciously as I review all the videos on a regular basis. Happy Thansgiving! Take care.
November 22, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Lance. Thanks for the compliments of our site and that you feel you've learned some good information. You want to shy away from the lifeline "too much in the palm." The calluses at the base of the knuckles is where you want to shoot for. Take a look at the Using the Wrist Effectively and Efficiently for more understanding about the bow. It's not necessarily the grip that forces the bow. However, much easier to attain when trending towards neutral versus strong. It sounds like you are getting the results you want from your new grip though. Being able to feel proper rotation and bow is the goal. I would experiment with the grip that you are using right now. If you start losing a ton of speed or have a hard time getting the wrist set at the top. Then, we will need to tweak. But, I would rather you miss more towards the neutral side than overly strong. Happy Thanksgiving as well.
November 22, 2015
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Lance
Hi Craig Recently I heard in one of the videos (can't remember which one) that the left thumb can cause a casting tendency if it is pushing hard on the top of the shaft. So I have been allowing the left thumb to nestle behind the shaft and find that the bottom 3 fingers are now controlling the grip. I am still pinching the v. What do you think? Thanks
January 28, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lance. Sounds like you are letting them slide a little apart. Moving or removing the thumb is great for training purposes. But, you need proper placement for ultimate control of the club. Frisbee Drill, Part 1 Physics, and Left Thumbnail Pain talk about the thumb.
January 28, 2016
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Masato
Hello, so it does not matter whether I use a baseball grip or interlocking grip, the most important thing is a slightly strong left hand (see 2 knuckles) and the Vs of both hands point parallel to the right shoulder?
November 10, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Masato. We recommend the Overlap or Vardon Grip. You may use any grip you like. But, get the "v's" aimed correctly and club aligned in the hand to the proper pressure points.
November 10, 2015
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Jason
some advise a (for right handed golfers) a stronger left hand and a weaker right hand--> such that the left "v" points to the right shoulder and the right "v" points to the chin. what do you all think of that suggestion?
October 24, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jason. The stronger left hand may help with some speed. But, it will cause a little lack of control over the club face and will tend to be a little shut going back. The weaker right hand will tend to cause more of a wrist hinge going back and delay of face rotation. Also, could affect the proper force from the pressure points at impact.
October 24, 2015
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Gary
Can someone please clarify what the thumb pads in each hand do when gripping the club?
October 16, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. You want to secure the thumb to the side of the palm so the V's will pinched together. This allows you to have a better ability to control the club.
October 17, 2015
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Gary
Sorry , I was meaning the pads at the base of the thumb (the meaty part). What roles do the 'trigger' fingers play, can you elaborate on what 'light' means. Thanks
October 18, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. The pad of the lead thumb helps with control and stability of wrist set. The pad of the trail thumb and connection to the trigger finger helps support the club at the top and allows the player to apply force or pressure at impact. The typical pro goes from a (2-8) 2 being lightest from address to impact. Light would be not giving up all control, but good awareness that you have some control.
October 18, 2015
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Rob
HI guys, I am working on my takeaway and have a question about my grip. I find that I have more success in getting my left wrist on plane with my left arm at the top of my swing if I grip the club with an interlocking vs an overlap grip. I find that I have too much cuppage of my left wrist with the overlapping grip. I have watched some of your takeaway videos and I am trying to avoid the left wrist cupped at the top of my swing. Should I go with the interlocking grip? I have used both grips in the past and I do not have a preference. Thank you, Rob
October 14, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rob. Preferred grip would be overlap because of the tendency to roll the wrist or get handsy with the interlock. However, there are a lot of RST'ers that still use interlocking. You can experiment right now if you feel it allows you to follow our principles easier.
October 14, 2015
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Jim
I feel when my trail hand is "weak", that is the V is pointing roughly at my chin, that I feel more athletic and relaxed and I am less afraid to release the club through the hitting zone; is this ok or should I persist with the V pointing more to my right ear or beyond? I can see 2 knuckles with my left or top hand. There seems to be a large variation in the grip but when I watch the pros most of them seem to have what I would think is a weak bottom hand but it looks relaxed and neutral to me. Maybe another way to ask the question: with the trailing forearm/wrist should I be able to see the flexor (volar) side at address as I would if the V is pointing somewhere between my right ear and shoulder?
September 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. Ideally, you would want the V pointing more towards the trail shoulder. The right hand does add force from proper pressure points. Probably why you feel more athletic when it is on top. You can still engage those points from a more neutral position.
September 9, 2015
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Denys
I am guessing if I am getting a sore left thumb after 2 rounds of golf over a weekend, something is wrong with my grip. What do you think could be the culprit?
September 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Denys. Could be the grip or pushing of the thumb. Take a look at the Left Thumb Pain Video.
September 8, 2015
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Miguel
Don't know if you guys can help but it's worth a chance. So just recently I've been getting this cut on my middle right finger on the left side of it and was wondering if you guys happen to know why?
August 24, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hmm. That's a little bit of a mystery. I haven't seen that issue too much. Other than grip pressure. The only thing I can think of is the grip with the right hand maybe too weak.
August 25, 2015
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Mads
Hi Craig Just a quick followup question on your help with my grip. When I place my left thumb further up the grip (towards the end), instead of the "long" thumb I had before, the pad of my thumb tends to leave the grip, ie. there's a small gap between the pad and the grip. It's like pulling the thumb back raises the pad from the grip. This can't be right Perhaps I'm Perhaps I'm
August 16, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mads. There might be a tiny gap. That is actually okay. If it is a golf ball size gap, then we need to take a look.
August 17, 2015
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Mads
I would say about 1/2 inch.
August 17, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Mads. Email me a picture if you can. Probably, not a big deal. But, will check just in case.
August 17, 2015
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Howard
Is it easier to bow your left wrist at the top of the swing with a weaker grip? My wrist is a little cupped at the top and I don't think my grip is strong. No matter what grip I take on the club I can't even force my wrist to bow. I'm trying to get it to bow thinking that if I go to the extreme then it will be easier to get into a flat position at the top. Thanks.
August 13, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Howard. A weaker grip will make bowing more possible. However, take a look at Using the Wrist Efficiently and Effectively Video in the Introduction Advanced Section. It might help with the proper rotation to achieve a flat lead wrist.
August 14, 2015
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Stéphane
Hi! I developped a very strong left hand grip. I think it doesn't help me with my hooks. Working on the left hand release drill I could see very well the left hand grip on camera. I used to put my left hand thumb on the right side of the shaft(POV) and was using the thumb and index as opposite pressure point to rotate(release) the club. If I understood well, then thumb and index should be quiet and I should be using the first 3 fingers to rotate? If it's the correct way I'll continue working on the grip thanks. I would like a feedback to know if you think my grip(right side of the picture is ok or if I need to weaken it more? On the left is my old grip. Thanks for your time! http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/leclairstephane/Grip_VeryClose_zpscyj04rpq.jpg
August 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephane. You want to use the last three fingers to help rotate the club. New grip looks much better!
August 10, 2015
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Marc
Should I grip one inch down on all clubs Why or Why not?
August 3, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marc. You can grip down on the club for a little more control. But, it will cause a little loss in club head speed. Chuck talks about this in the Vijay Release Drill Video Advanced Downswing Section.
August 4, 2015
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Stuart
Do you prefer an interlocking or overlapping grip?
July 22, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stuart. Overlapping.
July 22, 2015
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Jordan
why do you recommend overlapping over interlock? if im 26 and have been interlocking since i was 10 should i change now?
August 5, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jordan. By all means, play with what you are comfortable with. The interlocking grip tends to lead to over use with arms and hands. Overlap takes a little trail hand out of the equation.
August 5, 2015
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Jordan
I tried overlap at the range but I seem to have random super right misses this way... Like it's harder for me to square the club face. I do struggle with rolling my hands on the take away though, any suggestions as to which grip to go with?
August 5, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jordan. I played interlocking from junior golf to professional golf. However, when I switched to RST I moved into the overlap. I did lose a little feel for manipulating shots. However, I can release harder than ever knowing it will go straight. That I can't over rotate the club. It's still personal preference. But, it does help with quieting hand roll.
August 5, 2015
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Jordan
when you overlap should the pinky be right on top of my index or in the crease between index and middle, either way It kind of feels like im crushing my left hand. could feel it in my index knuckle after a bucket of balls. Tough to get used to, but I'm all for learning a more proper way. Anything to get rid of the hand roll in the takeaway..
August 5, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jordan. It will settle in the crease between the index and middle finger. Takes a little getting used to, but then it will feel like its second nature.
August 6, 2015
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Stuart
That is what I thought and what I use. Thanks
July 22, 2015
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Matt
So I have noticed at the end of my takeaway the top of my left arm is kind of facing the sky and the clubface is shut. From there my wrist never really hinge vertically, it kind of moves/hinges horizontally. I believe this is causing my swing to get long and hinge more at the top of the swing. Any ideas if this may be a grip issue?
July 10, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matt. It could be a strength issue with the hand. However, I am confused about your description. Nevertheless, if the club face is shut at the end of the takeaway. Take a look at the Using Your Wrist Efficiently and Effectively Video in the Introduction Advanced Section. Also, the Unleash Your Thumbnail for Power and RST Pencil Tee Drill in the Advanced Takeaway Section.
July 10, 2015
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Toby
This is absolutely spot on. The position of the gap between the tendons is a great piece of advice. I tried this with the 9 to 3 drill coupled with the thought of using primarily the last three fingers of the left hand for control/pressure which helped enormously with the release of the club. I have had a tendency toward a stronger a grip which produced on occasions a screaming hook. The neutral grip helped engage the left hand/arm/side through impact as well allowing more control from the left side in general. I too have had consistent glove burnt out until viewing this video which has been drastically reduced since applying the neutral setup. Seems crazy as this is a fundamental that I thought I had understood 20 years ago! The grip as per this video is extremely important for the rest of the RST basics. I feel as though the slight change in grip position has facilitated other moves in the RST swing . Many thanks to the RST team.
July 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Toby. Thanks for the positive feedback and post. We very much appreciate it. Keep making your swing better and learning everyday.
July 10, 2015
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Deon
Having watched this video, I believe that I grip the club correctly. However, since taking up the game 2 years ago and going to the driving range regularly, I have developed a painful first joint of my ring finger on the left hand. What could be the cause of it?
July 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Deon. You might have strained it by working on the release and having it too much in the fingers. Focusing on the last three of the left hand.
July 9, 2015
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Jon
I'm still struggling with getting the left hand appropriately positioned. My problem is that when the left hand appears to be correct, I cannot get the thumb touching the base of my index finger unless the only part of the first joint of my thumb that is touching the club is the right half (from my viewpoint). In other words, I thought the meaty part of the 1st joint my thumb would be on club just right of center, but its actually the more boney part of that joint that contacting the grip. The only way to have the meaty part on the grip is to have a separation between the thumb and the index finger. I'm not a beginner by any means , but it makes me feel like my hand is malformed.
July 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jon. I don't think your hand is malformed. The grip is complicated and important. But, don't over think it too much. Focus on getting the "v" aligned correctly for now and making sure you are holding it correctly with the last 3 fingers of the lead hand.
July 9, 2015
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Martin
I'm still getting the wear and tear on the glove where the butt of the club sits. I've tried everything to cure it but it still wear's the glove. What can I do to prevent that?
July 7, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Martin. Make sure you don't have too much of the grip in the palm. Also, that you aren't gripping over the butt end of the club (opposite of choking down).
July 7, 2015
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ys
i am curious about left thumb. I am tryint to pinch thumb and forefinger so there is some space between club and palm. my swing coach said to me "that is long thumb, and you have to change short thumb". I understood but pinch together makes loosing the lag by thumb. how can I fix it? one more question, is there any space between club and palm?how can I get it?
July 5, 2015
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey YS -- Take a look at this article that goes along with this video. Look at the images and the content and it should help answer your questions. If it does not, let me know and we will do what we can to help. https://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/impact/golf-grip-proper
July 9, 2015
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Mark
Golf grip. Amongst my many problems that I am working on is an open club face. Today at the range I had a bit of a stupidly simple breakthrough. Whilst working on setup and 9 to 3 drill, I closed the face by about 20 degrees before taking the grip with my left hand. I then layer my right hand over this which felt a bit weird. I then adjusted the club face to square. Low and behold, hit after hit went straight to my left. Is this a good way of getting a feel for stopping an open club face. Should I continue with it until it becomes natural?
June 22, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mark. I would prefer you start with a stock slightly stronger than neutral grip and square face versus manipulating the club back to square after taking the grip.
June 22, 2015
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Mike
The video talks about having the club under the pad of the top hand. Does the pad refer to the meaty part of the hand next to the wrist? I have found that I can only line up the indentation on top of my top hand near the center of the club if the club is up near the top of my top hand - right up against the meaty part of the hand. If I move the club down any lower below the meaty part of the my hand my grip becomes too strong. Am I gripping the club correctly? Also, what should the angle be between your arms and club? Should your wrist be bent at all at address intentionally forming this angle? I think I sometimes have too small of an angle because there is too much tension in my arms, causing me to not be able to cock my wrists properly during the takeaway. If I relax my arms I think the takeaway seems to work better.
June 19, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mike. At address you want the arms hanging neutrally and the club vertical. If the club is gripped properly there will be just a little angle in the lead wrist wrist. Clay talks about this in the Once Simple Takeaway Fix Video Advanced Takeaway Section. Its hard to tell exactly where you are gripping it. The pad is the meaty part next to the wrist. You don't need to put it too far below the meaty portion.
June 20, 2015
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Mike
I'll ask the question a different way- should the club run diagonally across the top hand from the first crease in the index finger to just under the pad?
June 21, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mike. The club shoulder run across the last three fingers of the lead hand diagonally just under the pad. Regarding the index finger it will be around the crease in the middle knuckle.
June 22, 2015
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Mike
I'll ask the question a different way- should the club run diagonally across the top hand from the foraycreaseinthe index finger to just under the pad?
June 21, 2015
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Robert
I'm struggling with left hand position for the grip. in this video, to get the "v" of left thumb & forefinger pointing to my right shoulder, i rotate my left hand a bit so that the back of the left hand is seemingly not pointing at the target. but in the 5 minutes to release video, the guidance is that the back of the left hand should point at the target at impact. this feels inconsistent. if the back of my left hand is at an angle at setup but straight at the target at impact, won't the clubface be pointed to the left at impact? what am i missing?
June 14, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. In the release the lead wrist will tend to bow as it is rotating. The combination of the bow and turn down will help the club not be flipped or closed at impact. Take a look at the Knuckles Down Drill in the Advanced Downswing Section.
June 15, 2015
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Marcus
Can having the grip more in the finger of the lead hand encourage the lead wrist to break down at impact??
June 12, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcus. The lead hand will be a little in the fingers. But, too much in the fingers and strong will make it easier to breakdown at impact.
June 12, 2015
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Virgil
So, when I use a slightly stronger than neutral grip, the club face is slightly closed when addressing the ball and at impact. Should I weaken both hands slightly or weaken the lead hand vs the trail hand? Also, should he lead thumb be down the middle of the grip or slightly on the trail side of the grip?
June 10, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Virgil. Make sure when you grip the club that the face is square. Making the lead hand slightly stronger than neutral shouldn't make the face closed at address. Hence, the same issue you are struggling with at impact. Face square then take your grip. The lead thumb will be just slightly on the side versus perfectly on top.
June 10, 2015
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Virgil
So, at address with the proper axis tilt the clubface should be square but if there is no axis tilt the clubface would be closed? And at address, since the ball is off the lead ear, I should have proper set up with axis tilt to be sure my shoulders are square or slightly closed?
June 12, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Virgil. Axis tilt shouldn't affect too much whether the club is square or closed at setup. With the ball off the lead ear and the proper axis tilt. The shoulders should be square to the target line and the face square to your target line.
June 12, 2015
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Emil
How long is the left thumb supposed to be? Having it long seems to greatly improve the amount of lag you can have and having it short really makes me feel like its easier to cast...
June 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Emil. You don't want to stretch it to max capacity down the grip, but you also don't want it short and stubby. Just enough length and bend to give you some support for the club at the top of the swing.
June 9, 2015
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Steven
My overlapping putting grip gradually worked it's way into my chipping and pitching. Now I use it in my full swing as well. It seems to be quite comfortable. Am I setting myself up for trouble down the road?
May 25, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steven. Reverse Overlap or Standard Vardon Overlap. If standard, no worries. If reverse, you could get a little trail hand dominant down the road.
May 25, 2015
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Gary
My right hand comes off of the grip throughout the backswing. Can you explain what causes this? Would gripping with the right pinky along with the middle two fingers prevent this (interlocking grip)
May 25, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. (If you are right handed swinger) I don't think interlocking would help your cause. If it is coming of throughout the backswing you probably don't have enough pressure to start with and/or pushing hard with the left arm. Take a look at How to Create a Swing Plane in the Backswing Section. Focus on the amount of pressure you need to create one efficiently.
May 25, 2015
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Steve
I have a tendency to cover the top of the grip with my front hand because I'm uneasy with empty space in the palm of the grip. This makes it difficult to square up consistently and a very strong grip. How far over and across the grip should the front hand be? It seems that when I hold it under my heel pad my hand sits tall on the grip but there is a void in the palm that doesn't touch the club. Is that how it should be? And, should I think of the front hand being on the side of, or on top of the grip in order to have the back of the hand match the club face.
May 21, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steve. The goal is to get the lead hand "v" lined up between the head and trail shoulder joint. The lead hand should be slightly stronger than neutral. Not completely on the side, but missing more towards the side than completely on top.
May 21, 2015
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Stephen
Hi Craig, i have another swing review coming up and I want to make sure I get good views to get good feedback on my grip. Do you want a face on view? Do u want to see the club in the pad on my hand. Do you want to see it with my hand open to see where the club is lieing in relation to my metacarpals and phalanges. Stephen
May 20, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. That will work. I want to see where the club is lying in the pad and how your wrap the hand around the grip. Face On and maybe an above (looking down video) if you can.
May 21, 2015
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Seth
This is different than Ben Hogan's 5 fundamentals, correct? RST says the right hand V should be pointed at the right shoulder/right ear where BH want's the right hand V pointed at the chin. Is there a reason why we should do one or the other?
May 17, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Seth, pointing the lead side v at the trail side ear is a stronger grip and it limits the amount of club face rotation necessary to get the club face square at impact so you don't have to feel like you're timing a release. Hogan preferred a weaker grip (i.e. pointing the v at the chin) because he struggled with hitting the ball left during his career. Any grip can be used but some require more compensation than others. R.J.
May 17, 2015
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Gary
Can someone please clarify the wrists at setup. I have had a tendency to grip the club in the fingers of the left with the back of my wrist basically facing I front of me ( elbow facing target line) I assume this is wrong which is why I have always struggled and couldn't ever achieve a flat left wrist at the top (cupping) and impact ( timing a flip). If you had a watch on, would it face down the target line and once you grip the fingers underneath , your left thumb and forefinger wrap around into position?
May 12, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Take a look a the Gorilla Grip Video and the Golf Grip and Being Out of the Box for some good visuals in the Setup Section. The wrist watch would be facing more towards the target than out away form the body. The lead elbow pit should be facing away from the body. Yes, the lead thumb and forefinger will wrap into position and the "v" formed by them will point in-between the shoulder and the ear.
May 12, 2015
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Gary
Would I be right in saying when gripping the club in the 3 fingers of the left hand, these fingers are gripping towards the direction we're wanting the ball to go ( target line).?
May 12, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Yes, the knuckles on the lead hand (last 3 fingers) would be more aimed towards the intended target line versus facing away from the body.
May 13, 2015
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Gary
Ok, thanks. With the right hand, should you feel some sort of connection in relation to the thumb of the left hand and the bottom of the life line of the right hand as if this was a connection to the grip? (If that makes sense). Also is it the outer side of the left thumb that sits in your life line or is it the top of the thumb? Seems pernickety but massive difference in feeling.
May 14, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
If I'm gathering the question correctly that makes sense. The life line will feel more on the side than on top.
May 14, 2015
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Gary
Thanks Craig .
May 14, 2015
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Stephen
Hi Craig, I am trying to make sure I have the correct grip and it is not too strong. Chuck states that the "v" formed between the thumb and finger should point to the right ear. Sorry if these are stupid questions, Is it a good idea to view the golf grip on swing viewer and drawing a line from the "V" to the right ear to get correct. When you grip the club, do you grip it so the leading edge is 90 degrees to the target line? or do you the sole of the club on the ground then grip the club? Stephen. Thanks. Stephen
May 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hell Stephen. Never a stupid question. . You can definitely check the V formation with the swing viewer. Your goal with the Lead Hand V will be between the ear and the shoulder. It doesn't matter if the club is soled or not. Just that the face is square to your target line.
May 9, 2015
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Loran
Does the right lifeline palm overlap completely with the other palm, as I was taught?
May 7, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Loan. For the right handed player. The left thumb will be sitting in the right life line palm.
May 9, 2015
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Carole
I know you don't advocate a 10-finger grip, but it's the least painful grip that I can find that allows my arthritic hands to hold the club. With an overlapping grip, the club just moves around in my hands and I have no control at all. With an interlocking grip, it created pain at the base of my middle finger. I'm open to changing my grip, but so far 10-fingers is the least painful while providing the best grip strength and control. I understand the issues that surround not having the hands work together more and would love to fix that, but haven't been able to solve this problem. So I'd appreciate any ideas you. With all that said, my main question is about club grips. Given that I have significant painful arthritis in my hands, what is your opinion about arthritic grips (softer and thicker). Do you recommend them? How will it affect my swing? How thick is too thick? Will they upset the weight balance of the club? Thanks for your thoughts.
May 2, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Carole, the swing weight will be affected, but not likely to the point where your swing would be thrown off or even be able to feel it. The arthritic grips do help reduce the pain on the hands for golfers with arthritis. With a thicker grip, you may experience a delay in your release and vice versa with a smaller grip. A slightly open stance, a few degrees, and moving the ball up in your stance would allow the club to square up when using a larger grip. If you choose to go the arthritic grip route, try using the interlocking grip then with a very light grip pressure. This should relieve any stress on your fingers. R.J.
May 4, 2015
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GARY
Hi, thank you for the video. If I am right hand dominant does it make a difference as to whether I have an interlocking grip or an overlapping one? I feel that if it is interlocking then this helps the right grip to be stronger, is this correct? Also, If I am right hand dominant does it make sense to grip the club slightly more lightly with the right hand?
April 12, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. If you are right hand dominant (and play right handed) the interlocking grip will make you more handsy in the swing. Preferably, for the right hand dominant player the overlap grip would work the best. It is actually easier to strengthen the right hand grip with overlap. Grip pressure will be about the same. You just want to be mindful of the fact that your right wants to take over and not add excessive force.
April 12, 2015
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GARY
Thank you Craig. When you wrote that ' It is actually easier to strengthen the right hand grip with overlap'. Is this just a worry that the overlap can potentially make the problem worse? In conclusion: Should I try the overlap but just be weary that it might make the problem worse?
April 12, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. I was referring to grip strength, not more right hand take over on the way down. When I started my swing transition 6 years ago with Chuck I was very right side dominant and used an interlocking grip pretty much my entire career. When I gave in to his demands of switching to overlap. It was much easier for me to stop trying to rotate and throw the club with my right hand into impact. I recommend the overlap to all my students. In fact, yesterday with a student we noticed the same thing. Switching to overlap forced him to stop making compensations with the right and release the left.
April 12, 2015
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Robert
I'm fighting this same right side dominate feeling and have been for a while. This past weekend I used a double overlapping grip such that my trail side middle and index fingers were the only fingers gripping the club. I parred 9 of 18 that round which may not be generally great but it's great for me. The release felt much easier this way. In any case, what are your concerns regarding a double overlapping grip if any? I know it's something Jim Furyk uses ... obviously not a model swing but he is consistent.
May 11, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Rob. When using the Double Overlap Grip you will be removing one of the three primary pressure points for the trail hand. There can be loss of feel for the club in the backswing and a loss of club head speed. However, if you are very trail hand dominant. You can experiment for right now to make the lead hand work better. No worries
May 11, 2015
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Robert
Thanks for the speedy reply. Just so I'm clear, is the pressure point you cite the ring finger of the trail hand? Is the loss of club head speed due to the inability to "throw the ball"? If I could cut off my right arm I would at this point, so I'm not quite ready for throw the ball. Still working on weight shift, LADD
May 11, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rob. Yes to both. The ring finger and throw the ball. Sounds like you need less trail side dominance. I contemplated at on point cutting of my trail arm too. Keep working on the lead arm. Allow that trail to be more passive right now.
May 11, 2015
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GARY
Okay. Thanks Craig. I am going to give the overlap a go
April 12, 2015
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Theodore
Hi...I just had my swing reviewed by Patrick and he stated my right hand was in a dominant position as the"V" pointed to my chin instead of right shoulder. I forgot to tell Patrick I am missing the index finger on my right hand and am wondering if that would change his review? Theodore
April 1, 2015
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Patrick (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Theodore, that certainly changes things. Missing the right index finger would certainly make the right hand LESS dominant. That said, the left hand controls the club face. Make sure you feel pressure in the last three fingers of the left hand when gripping the club. The index finger and thumb of the left hand should feel light on the club throughout the swing. The right hand's job is to add speed, but that is made a little more difficult due to your missing index finger. Still, make sure the entire right hand is light on the club.
April 2, 2015
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Pankaj
Hi I am a right handed golfer. I feel more comfortable table to have my little finger of the right hand curled on the shaft rather then on my back of my left hand fingers. Is that ok or will I be loosing on distance?
March 24, 2015
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Steven (Certified RST Instructor)
Pankaj, If my understanding is correct we would then be using the "baseball grip". When we use this style of grip the hands work independently from one another making it difficult on a day to day basis to have the hands work together to square the club. What is going to happen is one hand is usually going to take over which most likely will be your right hand which can cause instability of the clubface. My suggestion is to use the interlock and play around with that, see how that feels. It may take a while to get used to the feeling but then the hands are one "unit" and controlling the clubface will be easier. And for distance we most likely will lose distance if we grip the club where the hands are working separately from one another. Give it a try, Steven
March 25, 2015
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Nguyen
Hi For the right hand, is it correct that pressure only on the two middle finger?Do we need to apply a pressure from right hand 's thernal eminence to the left hand?
March 10, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nguyen. There will be pressure from the middle two fingers and the proximal phalanx. There isn't a need to have added pressure from the thenar eminence from right to left.
March 10, 2015
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Nguyen
Great Craig, I follow your guide and find it's much easier to loose the right hand at impact. Look like we also need to loose the middle phalanx and distal phalanx of these two fingers as much as possible, barely enough to touch the club. Is it correct? Thank you very much!
March 10, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
They will help you hold the club a little, but not expend too much force into the club.
March 10, 2015
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Nguyen
Thank you, I feel almost like the right hand loose itself at impact now. Great thing!
March 10, 2015
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Anthony
I have a strong right side push in the downswing, if I put very little pressure with my right thumb and forefinger on the grip will this help stop making my right side dominate the downswing.
February 11, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Anthony, if you check out the "5 minutes to the perfect golf release" drill, you'll be able to teach yourself how to train your left hand to release the club. Once you get the feeling of doing that, you'll be able to use the right hand as a supplement as opposed to the driving force. R.J.
February 11, 2015
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David
How about grip pressure? should you have equal grip pressure with both hands through out ENTIRE swing? I really need to know at address and ENTIRE swing right into finish position. Thanks you.
January 10, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. If you are using a scale of 1 - 10. 1 (softest) 10 (strongest). Grip pressure will start at address around a 2. It will gradually pick up throughout the swing and max out around 8 at impact. Then, dialing down into the finish position.
January 11, 2015
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David
thanks but is that equal for both hands?
January 11, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey David. The lead hand with the last 3 fingers will tend to do more of the heavy lifting. All things considered you will feel more pressure and control with the lead hand versus the trail hand.
January 11, 2015
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Robert
Do you want the club's grip more on your left hand pad or in your left fingers ? If the fingers, why so ? thanks
January 6, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. It will tend to be more in the fingers than in the pad. Too much in the pad would inhibit wrist set and proper squaring of the club. A little in the fingers allows for wrist set, speed, and proper rotation of the wrist through the impact area.
January 7, 2015
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Lindsay
I don't believe it is mentioned in this video, and I may have overlooked it elsewhere, but what type of grip is recommended? i.e. interlocking, overlap? I looks like Chuck is overlapping in the video, but I don't believe he mentions anything about it. I've been an interlocker all my life, but it might have been at the expense of not properly gripping the club in the most effective way.
December 31, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Lindsay, As long as you have the pressure points mentioned in the video above, then you can go with either an overlap or interlock. I've done both and they both work just as well. Great luck to you on your 2015 year of golf! R.J.
January 1, 2015
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Giampietro
Wich is the relation between the grip and club face at the top of the backswing? I mean: If i grip the club a bit stronger than neutral (2 knocks and half), when i'm at the top of the backswing with a nice flat wrist the club face is no more parallel with my forearm... could it be called "shut" position? Thanks
December 29, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Giampietro. With a stronger grip the club will tend to be shut at the top when the wrist is flat (facing the sky position).
December 29, 2014
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Terrance
I am very comfortable with HOW to grip the club ... but I'm about to re-grip my clubs, and I am uncertain how to determine the best grip diameter to use. I've yet to find this topic in any of the RST videos. my had is 8" from wrist to tip of middle finger. and middle finger is 4.25" from edge of palm to fingertip. fingers are slender. I have been using golf pride medium size grips with no extra wraps. I know some of the pro's are extremely aware of extra wraps, etc., and can sometimes discern seemingly imperceptible changes in diameters. so how do I figure out what my best grip size is? and what adjustments or considerations do I need to have in mind for grips for my hybrids, fairway woods and driver v. the standard steel shafts on my wedges and short-to-mid irons?
December 25, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Terry, With the grip described in this video, the majority of your grip is held with your fingers. I have large hands for someone my height (6'0") at 8.5"; however, I would require standard size grips because my fingers are shorter (Just short of 4"), with a larger palm. When I used to grip the club with more of a whole hand grip, prior learning RST, I considered using an oversized grip. I'm glad that I learned how to play golf before I bought new clubs. You can view most club builder's charts, they're all fairly close to one another. Based on the information that you provided, I would suggest using a midsized grip with no wrap adjustments. Of course, the best way to find out for sure is to find a reliable club fitter in your area. Merry Christmas, R.J.
December 25, 2014
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Stephen
In chucks in video he mentions about a crease in his left wrist that is between two tendons, is this anatomical snuff box? (where the scaphoid bone is) it's just not that prominent on my wrist or forearm. Sorry if this is a stupid question
November 18, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Stephen, It's not going to be that prominent. It's just a small crease at the top of the wrist. As long as the bottom pad of your left hand is on top of the club, your bottom 3 fingers are wrapped around and providing the grip pressure, your thumb is pinched against the hand and you can see 2 - 2 1/2 knuckles when you look down at your left hand, you're doing it correctly. R.J.
November 18, 2014
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Andrew
Hi, I have noticed in the last 5 rounds that my right-hand (right-handed golfer) has been sore. The feeling is as if someone squeezed my hand very tight. What could be the problem and how do I fix it? I can account for two swings where my right-hand actually hurt after contact with a driver. Thanks, Andrew
November 16, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Andrew, Lighten up on your grip pressure significantly. That should help quite a bit. I would also give it a rest for a few days before continuing to work on your game. R.J.
November 16, 2014
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Andrew
R.J., Thank you. I will take your suggestion and see if that will improve my grip situation. Andrew
November 17, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Andrew, You're welcome. R.J.
November 17, 2014
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Mark
Is it ok to use the grip described but place the left hand index finger over the right hand pinky. My right hand pinky is injured and it is difficult for me to place it over the left hand.
October 31, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Mark, I was reviewing this with my own grip and I don't see an issue with it other than you might have a tendency to squeeze your pinky into the shaft with your left hand so with that I'm concerned for further injury. You could also try gently placing your pinky on top of the crease between your left index and middle fingers instead of interlocking the pinky and index finger. I'm not fully aware of the nature of your injury so I don't know what will hurt and what will help alleviate the pain, but a small adjustment like you suggested shouldn't affect your swing any and with RST principles, it's important to play the game in a manner that will not get us injured. R.J.
October 31, 2014
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Mark
Thank you. I feel no pinky pain with the modified grip I described. In the past, any time I have tried placing the pinky on top, I injure the pinky joint near the palm at some point
October 31, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Mark, Unless you did some damage to that pinky in the past, I can't fathom how you would injure it in the golf swing unless you're doing something fundamentally incorrect with your release. Check out the release videos to make sure you're not doing anything there that could cause pain. R.J.
October 31, 2014
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Robert
I am having pain in my left thumb pad..Am I pushing on the shaft too hard with the left thumb?
October 29, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Robert, You must be because you should not be having any pain in either thumb nor should you be pushing on the shaft with either of them. You need to be pushing your thumbs up against your hands to keep the shaft from slipping through the gap between your thumb and pointer finger though. The bottom three fingers and the pad of the bottom of the left hand to apply most of the grip pressure. R.J.
October 29, 2014
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Rodolfo
I found that my right thumb was in line with the shaft and inline with the left thumb, as trying to to keep right thumb pinched to the right hand. I guess this made me loose lag too quickly from top and made difficult to down cock, as the club bounced on right thumb rather then left thumb. I moved my left thumb some some 10-15 degrees left, to point more to the left foot at address, rather diagonal and not inline with the shaft. This was while warming up to play (some guy pointed out the "wrong" right thumb on the grip) and played great with this change. I feel like the club is now smooth coming down and don't cast as easy as with the other grip, feel more in control of the release. As i'm working other things in my golf swing (only the take away, Craig Morrow knows witch ones) i want to know what this change really do and if it's OK, if the other position of the thumb was indeed wrong (i see J. Dufner grips like this, right thumb inline to shaft, so made me doubt).
October 29, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Rodolfo, You can grip the club any way that you want to; however, you're going to see that using that weak of a grip that you're going to struggle with consistency as you put the rest of your swing together. You'll find that your club will be coming open to the ball at impact and you'll either block the shot or you'll end up hitting a snap hook. I wouldn't listen to random people that you're playing with when it comes to golf instruction. Chances are, unless they're also an RST student, they don't understand the science of the golf swing and they'll end up teaching you something that will either get your hurt or mess your swing up in the long term. Also, watching professional golfers and what they do is a slippery slope. Pros have dedicated their entire lives to the game and practice more each day than we put into our day jobs so, they've had the time and reps to work compensations into their swings to make up for the flaws that they have. We are trying to build swings that do not require compensations. The purpose of using the grip that is taught above is so that we don't have to work extremely hard to square the club face coming into impact. The club will already be close to square naturally. Also, there is no grip that you could learn that will lessen your ability to create the proper amount of lag. Allowing the club to slip between your thumbs and your hands will produce too much lag that you will never be able to control or get rid of at impact. Not to mention, it'll ruin your grips and give you nasty blisters. R.J.
October 29, 2014
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Rodolfo
I guess without a photo we are not going to be sure whether or not what i did is correct. How can i upload a photo? I used to upload them right on the post but with the webpage changes i'm kinda lost..
October 30, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Rodolfo, You can tell your RST instructor when you make yourself a video for your swing analysis. There are two videos that you're allowed to do per swing analysis so, make one video your grip video and then take swings with your swing analysis video. R.J.
October 30, 2014
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James
Are there any pros or cons to setting up exactly as you mention in the video, but using a baseball or 10 finger grip. Although I'm as strong as an ox I have smaller hands(Cadet med) & I was thinking a 10 finger grip may be a good change. But again following all of your recommendations in this video.
October 27, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Jim, Being strong as an ox or having smaller hands would not be a reason to change your grip. If you were to use a baseball grip your hands would never be allowed to release the club properly. You would also have a tendency to having a flying elbow. It's also next to impossible to control the angle of the club face because the club will rotate in your hands with a baseball grip when you make contact, regardless of how strong you are. So, unless you hit directly in the middle of the sweet spot every time, the baseball grip has no chance of producing great golf shots. The grip that Chuck provides in the video is the most efficient golf grip that you could have when trying to produce the movements for the RST swing. You can deviate from it if you'd like but every time you deviate from the formula, you'll have to make a compensation to get back to where you need to be and with the RST program, we're trying to eliminate as many compensations as possible. R.J.
October 27, 2014
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James
Thanks for the input. I will consider everything before ever committing to a change that's so drastic. You said hand size is not a reason to change, what would be a good reason to change to 10 finger grip? Thanks again
October 28, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Honestly, there really isn't one. When I read your question, I went outside and hit balls for an hour to figure if there was any possible benefit to swinging like this because there is nothing on the site about it and there wasn't anything positive about it. It allowed me to get too dominant with my right hand and get too wristy which caused some fat shots and a lot face twisting. R.J.
October 28, 2014
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Mark
I have a callous on the thumb side of my left index finger between my knuckle and first joint (a little more toward the first joint). Is that an indication of a problem both in grip pressure and alignment?
October 24, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Mark, It means you're not keeping your thumb and left index finger pinched together and the shaft is come up in between the finger and the thumb. This will cause a boat load of problems in your golf swing, not to mention the blisters and callouses in that area. Keep those thumbs pinched to the hands so the shaft can't slip in between them. R.J.
October 24, 2014
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Elliott
I could not play the review. Also there were no comments given. A little disappointing.
October 22, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Elliott -- I assume you are talking about your swing review that you submitted? If you a have a problem like this, please email our customer support amy@rotaryswing.com will take care of you right away. We generally do not leave any comments back to the students as all of the comments will be in the actual review itself. I am sorry for any technical difficulties and we will help you get them resolved asap.
October 22, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
I passed the message along that you were having issues. Someone will get you taken care of in the near future.
October 22, 2014
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Chan
is the same grip used for all types of shots? chip, pitch etc.
October 12, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Chan -- Always good to see you posting. There can be some slight variance in grip for different styles of shots and if there is some sort of variance we will cover it in the sections. Let us know if you need any further clarification at all as we are always here to help. - Ct
October 13, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Chan, Any adjustments necessary for short game shots will be described in the short game section of the site. Please check out that section for the answers that you seek. R.J.
October 12, 2014
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Jacob
Not sure if this is the best thread for this question as my issue is about the top of the backswing but I think my grip may be culprit here. When comparing the top of my backswing (specifically FO, although it's noticeable DTL as well), it appears my club shaft gets almost parallel (0 degrees) with the ground. However, when comparing this position to Chuck's model swings FO, the club shaft gets to be about only a 45 degree angle with the ground. I do a pretty good job keeping the right elbow from flying out and our positions at the top look pretty similar so it's tough to tell what's causing this additional travel of my club head/shaft. That being said, I'm starting to think it may be my grip on the club. I've started to feel my grip loosen at the top of swing before I start my transition to the point where it feels like (and may actually be the case) only my last 3 fingers in the left hand are holding the club. So basically my question is whether or not my problem could be coming from this (and is it something that should be addressed/changed)? Should all the fingers/grip stay firm on the handle during the whole swing. I think I developed this habit of loosening my grip because it FEELS like it helps increase lag. In addition, I think my hours of practice with LADD and lose the right hand drill has slightly ingrained less use of my right hand on the club.
October 8, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jake. The grip needs to remain loose, but not "too loose." You don't want to give up control over the golf club. Two things might be happening. Too much elbow flexion. Don't allow the trail elbow to have more than 90 degrees of flexion. It will lead to long and deep. If you are kinda "lolly gagging" with the wrist you are giving up too much control. You need to keep some pressure in the lead hand and trail hand to support the club. Lag is increased by the wrist angle, not overly loosening the fingers. Maintain some good pressure, but don't wrench it.
October 8, 2014
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Jacob
Thanks Criag. I feel like the term "lolly gagging" pretty much depicts how my wrist have felt at the top of the swing. I'll tighten that up a bit and double check the elbow flexion.
October 8, 2014
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nathan
Hi Craig, thanks for that yeah I'm definitely an overlap man! but I meant is there a difference if you overlap ontop of the left index finger compared to overlapping in the grove (I should have said last time) between the index and middle fingers.
October 2, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nathan. It would be preferred that the hands stay together as a unit and not get the separation (gap). If you can grip it on top, but keep the connection. No worries.
October 2, 2014
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nathan
What's the difference between overlapping the pinky ontop of the index finger or in the gap between the index finger and middle finger? Is one better than the other? Cheers
October 2, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nathan. The difference is the interlocking (gap) grip will tend to be more hands dominate. The overlap allows you to add the right pressure points to the club. Requiring less manual effort to set and square the club. Try to stick with the overlap grip.
October 2, 2014
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Aaron
pros and cons of pinky vs pointer finger overlap? Thanks!
September 29, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Aaron. Are you referring to a reverse overlap grip versus standard "vardon" overlap?
September 29, 2014
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Michael
is there anyways that we could get a video with more explicit instructions on how to grip the club in the left hand.
September 28, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. Do you have any particular question I can help with?
September 28, 2014
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Michael
to be honest, I'm just not sure where it sits in the left hand.
October 2, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. David and I had this discussion a few points down on the board. Scroll down just a little bit more. Hopefully, it will help. See if this image helps as well. http://free-online-golf-tips.com/wp-content/uploads/proper-golf-grip-fingers.jpg
October 2, 2014
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William J
My question relates to where the hands should be at address in relationship to the body/ball Should they be in a position which is at least in line with the ball or slightly forward or slightly behind the ball? Also should the toe of the club be slightly up so the club head is not soled flat on the ground? I seemed to remember something about shaft droop is the reason that the toe should be in that up position. From what I've observed it appears visually that pros sole their club head in this manner.
September 5, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jeff. The toe might be sitting slightly up, but get it close to soled. The hands should be vertical at address. Not too forward and not backwards of the ball. More inline with the ball.
September 6, 2014
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Jim
Hi Grip the club at address once posture etc has been achieved or before addressing the ball , What are your thoughts on when to grip the club as i have had several teachers who seem to contradict each other. Would like to clear this up once and for all Cheers Jim
August 23, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Getting in to a good neutral posture before gripping the club is important. Check out the gorilla grip video for some further explanation. http://www.rotaryswing.com/videos/full-swing-advanced/setup/the-gorilla-grip
August 23, 2014
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Eric
Where should little white line at top of club grip be positioned?
August 22, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
That line will be inline with the first part of the pad going on the club.
August 22, 2014
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Stephen
I can't seem to get the thumb of my left had to not have a gaps with the forefinger. I either have to rotate my wrist to the left or my thumb is on the left side of the shaft. Is there a truck to this?
August 21, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. There really isn't too much of a trick. I don't want you too weaken it too much. See if slightly stronger can help you achieve the position.
August 21, 2014
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George
I have a problem with my right hand moving into a very weak position after address and even during the swing. I have started experimenting with interlocking pinkies rather than overlapping, and it seems to be working. Is this a good way to keep my right hand from becoming weaker at address and during the swing?
August 7, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Patterson. If the interlocking grip works. Try it for awhile. The only thing the interlock does is promote more arms and hand use. Worked for Tiger and Jack. Just make sure you keep it in the proper location with the right hand. Proximal phalanx for the ability to add speed with the right pressure points.
August 8, 2014
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Paul
I am really confused with trying to apply this theory to myself. At address, I look down on my left hand(right handed) and I see a little more than two knuckles and also the crease inbetween my thum and fore-finger pointing little more than my right ear. However, after taking a video of my self swing, I see the crease pointing straight up towards my left ear. If I have my left hand to a more stronger grip, I feel like it is too strong. The thing is, I have my right hand parallel to my left hand which means my right hand crease should be pointing at pretty much the same angle. I was told from an instructor that it seems like my right hand is OK but my left hand seems to look weak. Should I turn my left hand a little more or could there be some other issue with this that I would need to fix. Thank you in advance.
July 29, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Its sounds like your grip may be a tad weak or you are holding it in the palm too much. Try making it a touch stronger and holding it more in the fingers. It seems to be too much in the palm. Have you uploaded a swing to our online review system? Our team would be glad to help get that grip correct for you.
July 29, 2014
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Paul
I thought for your left hand it should be little more on the palm(more like resting your bottom outer palm on top of the shaft)and for your right it was more like fingers. I have uploaded my first one however I have not uploaded my second one yet. P.S: is there a place where I can ask question to instructors after I uploaded my video?
July 29, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Paul. There will be some palm action. It sounded like it might be too much by your description. Put the butt end in the hand around the bone at the base of the pinky. Just below the knuckle. Sadly there isn't after you upload the video. I would go and look for you. However, I lack the access once review is completed.
July 29, 2014
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Kade
Not sure if this is a grip question, or a setup question, but always wondered if where the butt of the club points makes a difference? I know there is an angle from your hands to the ball, but is there a guide either on my hands, wrists or club where I can find a good hand position (or height) where I can best control the club and not feel so loose? I feel like I have more control when my hands are lower, but also feel like I'm hunched over and the toe of the club is off the ground more than it should be. Thanks and love the site and it's content!
July 25, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
The hands should be held right in the position relative to the arms hanging directly under the shoulder joints. If the hands were inside that line. They would tend to be low and you would be bent over too much. If on the outside. The hands would be too high and tend to be too tall. There really isn't an exact point because of differences in body build (Genetics - Arms, Leg and Torso Length). But, the butt end will be pointed roughly around the belt buckle.
July 25, 2014
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David
Where exactly should the club be in the left palm? Across the fingers? (see D in the attached pic). Or below or across the heel pad? (see N and C in the pics) http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/GripPositions.jpg
July 24, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. See if this image helps. http://free-online-golf-tips.com/wp-content/uploads/proper-golf-grip-fingers.jpg
July 24, 2014
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David
Thanks Craig. I can't tell from your image where exactly the butt of the club should be. See here: http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0151/8623/files/LeftHand_medium.jpg?1139 Would you say that the club runs from the yellow dot to the blue dot?
July 28, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
I would say its in-between the yellow and the green (base). Yellow looks a little in the palm. Then going to the blue.
July 28, 2014
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Seth
In changing my swing, I am struggling with my grip a little, feeling awkward and unstable at the top of my backswing, as well as the club slipping at impact. Could you provide some insight where exactly the 3 fingers grip the club and how the palm comes into play,sometimes I feel that i'm too much in the fingers or too much in the palm. I tend to really struggle practicing because I am not making decent contact. I realize a lot of this has to do with grooving the right body movements and appropriate positions through out the swing, but it would be nice to feel confident about my hands while I'm drilling these new movements and especially hitting practice shots while drilling. Thanks
July 24, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Make sure the "v" is correct. If you are palming it too much. The "v" will tend to point towards the head. If you are too much in the fingers. The "v" will tend to be outside the trail shoulder. The pad of the left hand and space between the tendons at the base of the left thumb (assuming right handed player) should both be about at the center of the shaft. Don't make it too complicated. Last three fingers and get the "v" correct.
July 24, 2014
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john
Any advocacy of using a Vardon/Overlap grip vs interlock? Since the site advocates a free release with the left hand does one type of grip promote that more than the other?
July 20, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. There are pros and cons with either. We tend to teach/advocate more of the Vardon Grip. The overlap tends to be more controlling with the trail hand than necessary.
July 20, 2014
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Rick
I must have missed that ulnar deviation is an important part of the wrists at set-up. I see pros with this position and also I notice this position of the wrists at set-up with the vids available in the self analysis section I use with my personal vids. Is there any significance of the wrists set up this way? It seems like it sets me up to cover the ball better or reduces the radius arc of the inside /square/inside path? Should I set -up with ulnar deviation? Rick B
July 19, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Rick. You don't want to setup with ulnar deviation. If you do. You are taking away one of the dynamics of the golf swing. Ulnar deviation is what you need during the release. If you preset the position, you may actually start to add more right side push to release the club. If you look at the pros. You typically see the hands at touch higher at impact versus setup for this exact purpose. Presetting with ulnar deviation minimizes the ability for the wrist to move in the swing.
July 19, 2014
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Tom
I quit playing golf about 14 years ago. At that time I was about a 15 to 18 handicapper. Now that I am starting again I have a question about grip size, About 5 years ago I was hit from behind in a car accident and badly sprung the last 2 fingers on each hand. I have never regained the strength in those fingers. I wear an Extra Large glove. Should I get oversize grips?
July 12, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. Sorry to hear about your accident and finger strength. Sometimes when the grip size gets too big it limits the amount of wrist set and control of the club. I have large hands and use a mid size grip. Try working up a little more incrementally. Nevertheless, if you have gripped an oversize club and it allows you to put the hands on the club correctly. Just know it might limit the amount of possible wrist set. Nothing we can't work with and make a great efficient swing for you.
July 12, 2014
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Gerald
I have 2 questions: 1. Some people are saying that the grip has to be that loose that in your hands you can not squeeze a little bird to death. Others are saying that this is rubbish. My question is: How strong has the hand pressure to be? 2. with my driver (and not with my irons) for me it is difficult (because of the lenght of the club?) to get my hands/my grip above or a little in front of the ball. When I try to bring my hands above the ball I have to bring my hands very far to the left, almost in front of my left hip. That doesn't feel right. In a normal stance with my driver my hands are behind the ball by addressing. How bad is that?. What is the solution? I am looking forward to your answers.
June 28, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
You want to have enough pressure to control the club. The key is keeping the fingers firm, but the wrist relaxed. The hands being slightly behind the ball with the driver won't hurt you. Take a Look at the Driver Launch Angle Video in the Bomb Your Driver Series. It will help with some setup adjustments to maximize potential with the driver.
June 29, 2014
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William J
Does the thumb of the left hand lay "long" and somewhat flat on the grip? For years the only part of my thumb which was on the grip was the middle joint and forward. With the thumb in this position it made it hard if not impossible to wrap the left thumb in the lifeline of the right hand and cover the base of the left thumb as shown in the video. Is the position of the thumb as I described in the first sentence correct? The hands certainly feel more as a unit and secure when I position the thumb in this manner.
June 27, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
You don't want the thumb laying too long on the club. Pretty much it should be relaxed and everything but the base of the thumb will be touching.
June 27, 2014
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Michael
i wish there was more detail about how the club would sit in the left hand.
May 22, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Michael, click on the video practice points tab and see if that helps you. If not, we can help further clarify for you.
May 22, 2014
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lee
I'm satisfied with my grip which is fairly neutral. my issue is glove wear on 1st joint of thumb. this video addresses that issue as excessive thumb pressure. I'm aware of the problem but it is proving to be a difficult muscle memory to change . any suggestions/ drills?
May 8, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Lee, it would be best to train the left arm only for a bit focusing on keeping the pressure as minimal as possible through the hitting area but still staying in control of the club face.
May 9, 2014
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Jeremy
How much does the thickness of my grips (i.e. one, two, three wraps) impact me taking the correct grip? i.e. What can happen if too thick / too thin?
May 8, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Grip width can effect the tension levels in the hands and wrist and effect the release if not set up properly for the size of your hand. It is important to see a fitter and have them measure the hand and recommend a grip that is perfect for you.
May 8, 2014
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David
My flight was typically a bit right - so I made my grip a little stronger to square it up -- now that I am doing the left hand drill and letting go with the right I find that as I get into more correct impact position -- with a forward shaft lean and a flat left wrist I am hitting left to left (face is closed) - I don't want to over weaken my grip and lose that heel pad on top of the club control-- so -- I am setting up with a neutral to slightly strong grip and a slightly open club face. This seems to allow me to get into correct impact position without the club being overly closed - Does this sound ok or would you recommend some other method?
May 7, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
The way you are setting up now with an open face is a band aid and I would strongly suggest you work on getting the grip to match what is outlined in the video and then work on fine tuning your release with this grip and a square face so that you dont run into issues further down the road. See the gorilla grip video to explain further on some of the anatomic reasons.
May 8, 2014
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joseph
I am working on the left hand only release drill, but notice that I struggle to maintain control of the club w/ pressure only coming from the last 3 fingers of my left hand. When this happens, I have a tendency to start using my left thumb more which I know is bad. In this case, would it be okay to maybe do the drill with my left hand on the club and only the middle 2 fingers of my right hand to help add a little support and prevent bad habits from creeping in?
April 27, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Joseph, on the left hand drill, you can slowly start to put your left thumb on the shaft to help support the club. We are just trying to eliminate any pushing on the club at all and that is why we have it off the club. Check out 5 minutes to a perfect release and you can see how to slowly add the right hand back to the club while working through the steps.
April 28, 2014
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mike
I am a left-handed golfer and I am following the points in the video but the v of my right hand always points to my left shoulder or outside my left shoulder. My thumb is just to the left of center and the butt of the club is under the pad of my right hand. I can't get the v to point at my left ear.
April 23, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
sounds like you may be too strong in the right hand at this point. Try to weaken the right hand a bit and get that v to your ear and then see if it is easier to get your left v up the shoulder.
April 23, 2014
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Ola
Hi again Im changing the grip now from neutral to a more strong grip. Just wondering where the push from the right hand should be or feel like it is. With a neutral grip it was the thumb that pushed the release from the right hand in my case which causes pain. With the slighlty stronger grip should it be the Y-formed space between the thumb and point finger that push or is it the rotation in some way...liitle confused overehere.
April 11, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Ola, you are really not wanting to have any of those focus points push to start the release. The release is rotation of the wrists and forearms and if you are focusing on an area within the hands to facilitate the release, you can create tension in the wrists and forearms which can lead to rotation issues through the hitting area. The grip as outlined in this video my Chuck will help control the club face properly when you start working on the release.
April 14, 2014
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Ola
Hi guys Great New look on the site, it's closer to matching the content now; ) A question about the grip. Is there some golfgrip to buy to help get the right grip on my actual clubs? My thumbs now are hurting and changing the grip is monumental. ..Is there any short cut? perhaps grips to buy. Not talking about the training device that is for sale at various sites. (The halfclub with a weight and griphelp) Tnx Ola
April 6, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Ola, thanks for the kind words and sorry for the delay in response from our end. I would suggest that you go to a golf store in the area and test out some grips to see which feels most comfortable. We do have a video on the site that talks about left thumb pain that you may want to take a look at. Here is a link http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfbiomechanics/left-thumb-pain-soreness-golf-casting
April 8, 2014

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