5 Minutes to the Perfect Golf Setup

This follow along video teaches you the perfect setup in only 5 minutes. This video includes a program to follow at the end that will have you setting up to the perfectly every time in the shortest amount of time possible.

  • Rock Forward, Rock Back
  • Shrug Shoulders, Depress Shoulders
  • Hinge from the Hip
  • Lean Inside the Ankles, Rock Forward, Rock Back
  • Hip Bump/Axis Tilt

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Eric
I went to the range tonight. I know from other videos that the importance of having the weight over teh ankles/mid-foot is to prevent injury. However, I noticed how critical it is to a proper swing plane, especially a proper pivot. I just wanted to check in with you on this. It seems that I can't rotate in a proper pivot if the weight is on my heels, even slightly, it is like my hips don't rotate. Also, it seems that I'm more prone to have bad posture/rounded shoulders when I'm back on my heels versus my mid-foot, does this all make sense anatomically.
May 14, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. For sure. If the weight is too far back you can't pivot in the hip sockets. One of the reasons people really struggle with loading the trail side and posting up in the downswing. If it stays back in the heel. You can't get the hips to rotate and work into any depth.
May 14, 2021
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Eric
This is a great video, my buddies are all low handicap players. We played last week. I was hitting a lot of blocks to the right and some pulls. They think I have a great looking swing (thanks to RST). When I hit one really well I end up in a great finish and they start making poser jokes. They think my issues relate to my setup or grip. I notice if I have a rounded shoulder or inward rotated left shoulder it is hard for me to get a good grip with the life line of my right hand over the thumb of my left, so I think it is related. I get too tense with my shoulders, some rounding forward and a very strong tense left shoulder (which I don’t get on the range). I think this will help tremendously, especially staying in the box (no rounding or inward rotation) and letting arms hang to eliminate tension in shoulders. Staying on my heels compounds the issues. Is the softening of the knees meant the step that shifts the weight from the heels to the ankles? What is the role of the turned in ankles?
May 13, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Eric. Yes, when softening the knees you allow the weight to move away from the heels to center of the ankle joints. More balanced position (Common Setup Faults and Fixes). The ankles rolled in helps with stability and getting the inner thigh adductors engaged for weight shift.
May 13, 2021
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Andrew
How much should my knees be flexed, and what should be the alignment between my butt and ankles/heels? I believe I’m flexing my knees too much which seems to enable my hips to sway too far (both front and back) and causing me to use my quads more than my glues and hamstrings?
February 13, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andrew. Take a look at Common Setup Faults and Fixes and How Knee Flex Determines Swing Plane Videos. You only need a little bit of knee flexion. Enough to where the back of the knee is in a straight line with the ankle joint. Most players over do knee flexion and have the same struggles you describe. Also, watch Dustin Johnson - Setup for consistency so you can get some helpful lines to draw on your own.
February 13, 2021
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Jason
I am unsure how to proceed with the videos. Do you recommend complete mastery of one part before moving on to the next? Like master set up then weight shift then move on to dead drills?
January 21, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jason. We gear more players towards mastery of setup and then proceeding to DEAD Drills. Using the other videos as follow ups or further learning to help refine mechanics from the DEAD Drill process.
January 22, 2021
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Kevin
Top of backswing position for comment below
October 12, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. Getting better. Not as deep. Still looks like arms are going a little across the chest and flatter. But, less deep than usual. See below. I think how you are getting into setup is changing items.
October 13, 2020
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Kevin
Hi Craig - I want to get your thoughts on my pelvic tilt at setup. I was wondering if you though more hip bend from the belt line / hips at setup would help me pitch the club up on plane - I’m still deep / lid off and flat. Looks like some right side dominance has crept back in as well which causes me to take the club out and away and then over rotate the forearms at the top
October 12, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. Camera angle slightly off. More worried about how you added knee bend and position. Take a look at How Knee Flex Determines Swing Plane.
October 13, 2020
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Tony
Hi, thanks for the great video. I'm pretty new to this and I'm a little confused by the '5 minute' videos. I've been following the dead drill videos closely and I'm not sure where these videos fit in with the DEAD drilll videos. Can you help me with some kind of timeline of when I am supposed to include these in my drills? Thanks
September 29, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tony. Most players follow the DEAD Series 1-6. The 5 Minute Series is a lot of the same great information, but broken down into more technical components. Depends on which journey your prefer. Destination is the same. The DEAD is the fastest way to rebuild the swing.
September 30, 2020
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Tony
Thanks Craig. I'll use the DEAD Drill but may dip into these videos too, for the additional tips and information. I thought perhaps that it was an older version of the DEAD drill, or a more advanced alternative. The main reason that I thought that it might be more advanced is because the '5 minute' videos had introduced the club at an earlier stage. Thanks very much for the help.
September 30, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tony. No problem for the help and using the 5 Min series as an additional information generator is well served.
September 30, 2020
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Parker
Chuck, I'm new to the program though I have been watching your videos on youtube since I stumbled across on about 6 weeks ago. During this drill (5 minutes to perfect setup), when you do the hip bump to the left for axis tilt, where would your new force plate gear show the weight distribution? At initial hip bump, have you moved majority to left, maintained an equal distribution, or actually shifted the weight onto the trail leg.
September 1, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Parker. The lead hip moves towards the target as the spine tilts away. Think about it like a counter balance. We aren't going to argue a few percentage points here and there. But, 50/50 will be pretty close. Take a look at Axis Tilt and Why It Is So Important and Common Setup Faults and Fixes Video.
September 1, 2020
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David
Hi, My first comment as I'm new around here, I've been playing for around 20 years but never played beyond 10 or 12 H/C, I'm going back to basics and treating my swing like a musical instrument, so i want to get this foundation right. So, have I misunderstood the drill? The slide that flashed up at the said it would be 1000 reps a month, but unless I've misunderstood the ask, I make it a 600? I'm not bringing this up because i think your calculation is wrong, i'm bringing it up because i think i have misunderstood what you recommend drill wise? thanks
July 17, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. Welcome to the site. It takes 3000-5000 reps to master a movement and usually around 1000 someone becomes very proficient. The goal is to do enough correct reps to where you don't have to think about it anymore. The beauty about setup is once you know how to do it and you start drilling other components. You are just reinforcing that movement pattern to reach said destination. About 100 reps a day is the target goal.
July 18, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Hi. Its looking like chuck is opening his hips little bit while doing axis tilt . Am i right ?
June 13, 2020
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Michael (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Mohnishkumar It's just a lateral shift without opening the hips. He made a video on youtube, you can search for "STEAL this Tour Pro Setup Tweak" where you can open the hips a little bit. But it's a subtle move you dont need to overdo.
June 14, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Hello , how are you ? Hope you are doing well. Is there a need to do Plevic tuck while pending . Thanks
June 9, 2020
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Michael (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Mohnishkumar. Thank you, hope every thing is good. I'm not sure what you mean with pending, but you need to pull your belly in throughout the swing to engage the mucles in your trunk and protect the spine. Hope that answer your question?
June 10, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Hii michael. Thank you, it's going great with rst. Actually it was bending. Typing mistake. I meant to say , at address after hinging from the hips, do i have to do the posterior pelvic tuck to bring my pelvic at neutral position and after doing it, do i have to maintain it throughout the swing?
June 10, 2020
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Michael (Certified RST Instructor)
If you do the tuck before hinging, you should be able to keep the neutral spine when you hinge forward. Take a look at the "Golf Posture | Correct Golf Setup" video. Let me know if that help.
June 10, 2020
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Ronald
Thanks Craig. That is very clear now. I don’t seem to be able to reply to my post by clicking reply.
May 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ronald. That's odd. I would try logging out (clearing cache/history) and then log back in. Usually fixes most errors with the site.
May 18, 2020
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Ronald
Thanks. The glitch is with the mobile site app. Thanks for your help.
May 18, 2020
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Ronald
I am a new member. What does Chuck mean when he talks about staying in the box? Thanks
May 17, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ronald. Take a look at Connect to the Core - Get in box Video.
May 17, 2020
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Adam
Hi Craig. I guess I'm a little confused about "staying in the box". I understand the shrugging and depressing of my shoulders. But what should the end result be? For example when going through the set up sequence, should I be depressing my shoulders? This is where I feel more back muscle activation, but feels very stiff and rigid. Just want to make sure I am doing the drill correctly. Thanks!
May 15, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Adam. You shouldn't be exhausted trying to keep the lats and shoulder blades fully depressed. Just retracted enough that the posture is clean and you are able to swing from the core. Engaged and ready to work. Not already maxed out.
May 15, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Hi Craigh . How are you . Hope you are doing . The ankle should be rolled in as chuck said. Do we need to maintain it, in the whole swing ??
April 8, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mohnishkumar. Thank you. I hope you and your family are well. It will tend to vary a little. The goal is to have it on the inside or over the center of the ankle throughout the swing.
April 8, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Thanks craig,sometimes after completing my posture my patella(knee cap) is moved upward at this time i'm feeling quite stable and when i'm relaxing my patella,my lower body is shaking little bit.So i'm quite confused about the position of patella after completing the posture.
April 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Monishkumar. Are you sure you aren't adding too much knee bend and the weight moves forward. Therefore, getting a little tall in posture?
April 22, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Hii craig thanks for the quick reply.I'm feeling good with my posture not adding too much knee bend,weight is over the ankle,not feeling tall.Actually when i flex my kness,sometimes i move my patella(knee cap) upwards and sometimes it' relaxed(not changed it's position).And when i keep my patella relaxed at address and start my backswing,the patella moves upward to stop the knee from getting rotated.So i'm quite confused what to do with the patella(knee cap).
April 22, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Monishkumar. I am a little perplexed by the issue. Let's see an image of setup and the position. should be able to find the culprit.
April 23, 2020
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Mohnishkumar
Hii craig,I was rolling my ankles incorrectly after flexing my knees.I was using my heels while doing the roll.Now i'm using my ankles priperly so feeling good with the knees
April 25, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Monishkumar. Great. I knew something had to be off for the sensation you were receiving.
April 26, 2020
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Gary C
I am grooving this setup drill and feeling very comfortable, confident and consistent with all aspects and I am wanting to practice this drill and add the club as well. I am curious if there is any order or sequence advice for adding the club. Should I focus on doing my setup drill in the same order as I have been practicing while just having the club in my left hand ready to go and then add it in as the very last step after axis tilt? Is there a video that mentions anything about this? Am I overthinking it? Should I be setting up to the ball in the same order as in this drill forever, just in a much more fluid and quick succession?
February 19, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. I think having a club in the lead and adding the trail to it at the end is certainly fine. I think you are overthinking a touch. But, you want that trail hand to do very little in the swing. Let's add it to the club last. Yes, the order will be the same. The pace and fluidity will improve the more you do it. It will become second nature where it will take very little time at all.
February 20, 2020
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Paul
I wish I would have started with this drill. As soon as I started working on the Perfect Setup, the rest of the steps fell directly into place!!! This is, IMO, the MOST important drill we can do! Thank you so much! Day 5 of my swing rebuild is going incredibly well!!
February 14, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. It all starts with a good foundation. You wouldn't go on the a race track without the car being setup first. Keep moving forward!
February 14, 2020
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Paul
Thanks, Craig! I thought I had one until I watched the video. Now I do!
February 14, 2020
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Gary C
I notice that as I practice this drill, focusing particularly on getting into my box and then maintaining that as I hinge from the hips and bring my arms into a relaxed address position, that it feels as though my armpits are closed and my arms are almost squeezing my pectoral muscles. In this position my arms feel almost glued or attached to my body in a way I haven't felt before. Is this the correct feel? I have been focusing on the shoulder shrugs to get into my box and then I bow/hinge at the hips and then I let my arms fall from that position. I can feel that the muscles between my shoulder blades are engaged and slightly pull towards my spin but my arms are definitely much closer to my body than I am used to. Looking straight down it looks like my fingertips hang just about in line or slightly in front of my toe line and from down the line it looks like my hands rest under my chin (if you were to draw a line straight down from my chin. Am I feeling/executing the right thing here?
February 14, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. You should have some sensation, or awareness in the upper pectorals and upper biceps when setting up. That little bit of connection is normal. The edge of the trail hand will line up with the chin from down the line. The shoulder socket and elbow joint should be inline. Sounds like you are getting into a proper setup.
February 14, 2020
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Diane
In the setup videos, you don't specifically mention the arms, and how straight they should be, but Chuck's arms always look positively straight and engaged. Reason for my question is that having done Bootcamp Beta I know my arms need to be 'passive' in the downswing, but overall I think I have developed a tendancy for them not to be pushed straight at setup and takeaway. But if I need to choke down on an 8 iron for a particular shot I naturally push both my arms straighter at setup and the shot always works well. I'm wondering if on normal shots, having my arms too loose from the start encourages them to fire wrongly in the downswing, whereas if I have some arm engagement at the start the transition and downswing seem to work better? Have I got this right?
January 23, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Diane. You can have the arms to loose (like gumby) and it will affect the swing. Take a look at Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips and Right Elbow Pit. Those videos will help you get the arms straight, but not locked out. They shouldn't be maxed out in tension at setup, but hanging properly and straight.
January 23, 2020
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Gary C
When I am in proper posture at address should my weight be centered on the insides of each foot as well as over the ankles? I assume this is why rocking back and forth after rolling ankles inwards is part of the drill. It feels more balanced and stable but just want to make sure I am doing things correctly. Thanks.
January 21, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Yes, the weight will be over the ankles, but you should be slightly rolled in. Which will increase the pressure more on the inside than the outside of the feet.
January 21, 2020
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Gary C
I think I’m a little confused on how I should be counting my reps for this drill sequence. It says to do this sequence 3 times per day, 5 days per week and in one month you’d have done 1000 reps. Does that mean I am counting the reps for each step individually (if done 3 times per day I will have 30 reps per step) or am I adding the reps for all steps together or just counting the entire sequence as one rep? I know this isn’t a drill that is technically tracked as part of the 5 steps but I want to make sure this aspect is solid and thus want to count my reps accurately to keep myself motivated and on track.
January 18, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. To make this simpler. Go to the Swing Reviews Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice --> Setup. The printable worksheet will help you get the correct reps.
January 18, 2020
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Gary C
So basically 1 set is worth 50 total reps? I have been doing 3 sets per day the past few days. How many reps do I count that as?
January 20, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Yes, one set is worth 50 reps with the goal of 3 Sets per session, or day. Sounds like you have about 450 reps logged in so far and well on your way.
January 20, 2020
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James
Hi guys, just had my first swing review. So, i'm a bigger guy, with a robust chest/ build, which stems my question. At setup, is it okay, or acceptable to have one's arms not straight, and bend some?? i understand one wants the humerus to go straight down (from a dtl view) and then some natural anatomical bend in the forearm, right? as opposed to reaching for it. where i'm bigger, i can get my right hand under my chin, but my arms are bent, i am wondering if this tradeoff is okay. i was always taught you want your arms straight at setup. Thus, nxt question. if your arms are bent at setup. when the body leads them back for the backswing, you want to straight your left arm then, correct?? Thanks guys.
December 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. It would be hard to have the arms bent at setup and then try to straighten them during the swing. I would strive for getting them straight at address (Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video). Being a little bigger chested the arms may have to sit a little more in front for you to reach a straighter spot. Yes, the lead arm needs to be straight in the backswing.
December 2, 2019
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Charles
I’m building reps on the 5 mins to a perfect setup video exercises. Where is the next video, 5 mins to Master Rotation in the series? I can’t find it on the website.
October 5, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charles. Type "master rotation" in the search box. It will pop right up.
October 6, 2019
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James
in regards to the right elbow at setup. If the right elbow is ideal at setup with the elbow pointing at the right hip and the right pit (of the elbow) pointing away from the body, am I right to assume that the point of this is to help facilitate the right elbow being 90 degrees at the top of the backswing (hence right elbow drill in the book)? this setup move also seems to correlate with the right bicep and the right pectoralis majors; seems to get them into the proper position during the backswing?? right??
October 3, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. The position will help it add flexion correctly with the supporting muscles you mentioned. As well as keeping the trail hand in a position to not be too on top of the club in the takeaway and promote proper external humeral rotation at the top.
October 3, 2019
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Bill
Is it necessary to do the rocking back a forward and the shoulders shrugs every time you practice the set-up? My thinking is once you know the best balance point, you would only need to practise the hip hinge and the hip bump as these two are all you are going to do once you get on the tee, thats as far as the set-up is concerned. Bill Coton
September 19, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bill. Correct. Once, you learn to setup correctly and balanced. You won't need to go through every progression checkpoint.
September 19, 2019
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Bill
Thank you for your quick response
September 20, 2019
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Bernie
When you add hip bump, is there additional pressure placed on the lead foot?
September 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bernard. When adding hip bump and tilt. The weight distribution should still be 50/50. Take a look at Common Setup Faults and Fixes.
September 9, 2019
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Paul
Hi there I would just like to thank you guys for all the quick feedback to our questions.ijust want to make sure I am totally understanding the process eg once I have done 100 to 200 reps of axis tilt can I then add setup and count my reps for both then learn takeaway and so on
September 6, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
Hello Paul. It takes 3-5000 reps to master a new movement pattern. Of cource you stack up other drills once you can perform the move correctly (please be 100% sure the movement is correct). 100 reps is a minimum per practise session. Don't rush trough the drills. I would also recommend that you send a video of you performing the drills so the RST instructor can perfect the drill. That way you can be 100% sure you are practising correctly. I couldn't have made the progress I have made without swing reviews. Hope that helps.
September 6, 2019
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Paul
Hey thanks that is good advice but a lot of reviews gets very expensive,my thought was to do video review on 9 to 3 drill as that would show setup and takeaway as quinton says is 90% of swing does this sound reasonable
September 6, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
Well that's the reason I am member of URG now. But I understand. There's Self Analysis Tool and I would recommend that you used that and compare your drills to full swing footage there (after all we are going to achieve same movements as model swings have). You can go on and send that 9 to 3 drill for review and ask a specific game plan for you in order to build a swing of your dreams! Good luck!
September 6, 2019
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Paul
this is question about getting a swing review .whn i go to get a swing review page there is a video to watch and then when u scroll down it gives prices to get a review i am suppose to get 26 reviews with my memberbership i can't seem to see where it prompts me to send a video in
August 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. If you purchased a membership with reviews and you are prompted to be able to use them. Please Contact Customer Service. I apologize for the error. I can't control that on my end.
August 30, 2019
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Daniel
Hello, I am a right handed golfer. I have been through the set up videos and done 300 reps but when I do the axis tilt i notice discomfort and pain in the right lower back. When I set up without the axis tilt there is not pain. What could be causing this?
August 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Daniel. Sounds like you may be adding lots of side bend. Take a look at Common Setup Faults and Fixes Video. Could be over doing the motion.
August 27, 2019
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Matthew
Forgive me if this is a stupid question...just finished with the intro section and am doing the 5 minute set up drill as required. On days performing that drill, can/should I start the weight shift section and add the drills there or just focus on the set-up drill before advancing to take on new material? Thank you, Matthew
July 24, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matthew. You should only stack new components once you become proficient at said move and can do it without thought. That is usually around 1000 reps. However, you may stack a component as long as you can do it correctly without messing up the previous step. If focusing on weight transfers deters from proper setup. You need to back down. No stupid questions here. We are the golf school for higher learning.
July 24, 2019
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David
Was just wondering because the rep tracker only goes to 3,000......thanks again.......
July 23, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. Most players after 3000 are pretty proficient at doing the new move without thought.
July 23, 2019
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David
Thank you btw, I feel like I’m on the road to a new and much improved golf game!!!
July 23, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. Awesome.
July 23, 2019
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David
Hi Guys, question about the 3-5,000 reps.........I am nearing 2,000 reps on a couple drills.........and how do I know for sure that a new habit has been solidified in a neuro- pathway........how do I know if it takes 3,000, 4,000, 5,000 or reps? Guess I should read more about the brain?
July 23, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. If you can do it without thought correctly (basically rubbing your bell and pat your head at the same time) with no errors. You are good to go. The numbers are an average. Some players may need more reps than others to solidify the change.
July 23, 2019
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Charlie
What is considered a rep when tracking this on the rep tracker? Is one rep going through the whole routine? Or would one routine (5 minutes) be 5 reps?
July 18, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charlie. Perfect way to check. Go to the Swing Review Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice ---> Printable Workout Sheets ---> Setup.
July 18, 2019
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Charlie
I do not see the “checkpoints for practice tab” under the swing review tab?
July 19, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charlie. I apologize. It's on the desktop version. I wasn't aware it wasn't on the mobile version.
July 19, 2019
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Charlie
Still not seeing it when viewing via desktop. Can you provide a link or specific instructions on how to view the desktop version?
July 19, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charlie. https://rotaryswing.com/swing-reviews/checkpoints-for-practice
July 19, 2019
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Charlie
Great, thank you!
July 19, 2019
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Danny
yes it is hard for me to turn and lift to top of back swing they tell me if I could take a full back swing i could hit it a mile
June 28, 2019
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Danny
Craig I am working on getting a video to my computer so i can submit it. the ones i have on my phone is too long now i have seen what to do i have been starting my downswing from the take a way position I have good weight shift and good rotation I think
June 28, 2019
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Danny
We found 0 results with "Chuck i am 68 retired now i just this spring moved to the white tees my age plus handicap of 80 i recently had a 73/74 and as usual playing too much it left me my back swing never got to 10 o'clock.I got your corse 3 days ago I need help finding the drills that is by the numbers i have watched way to many videos i want to do the training slowly and do the reps i am not sure which on how not to get too far aheades ".
June 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Danny. I am happy to help you. A little confused by your question. Are you looking for specific location to start, getting hands higher, etc?
June 27, 2019
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jane
R.J. I submitted my first video and you recommended that I do the 5 minute drill to perfect setup, need to narrow my stance and add a bit more axis tilt. I am practicing the drill and hope to send another follow up video. I have a couple of questions. First, you mentioned my heads moves because of my wide stance. Does moving your head affect how solid a person hits golf shots and if they solid or not? I will video my swing and send a follow up video fro you to review to see if you think I am ready to move on to Core rotation. Where do I post that video? Does that count towards a 2nd swing analysis, even though it is a follow up? Jane
June 17, 2019
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
It would be a 2nd review. You would not want the head moving laterally because it deviates your body from the point of reference created in your setup, which causes the brain to mail compensations in your golf swing which lead to vertical inconsistency in your impact, usually showing in hitting thin or chunking shots due to excess secondary axis tilt.
June 17, 2019
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi, Marcel here. When I do this drill , the closed eyes parts, feeling my balance, I do feel in balance but I also feel that my CG is making very small moves ( left/right and forward backwards) to keep the balance. Is this normal? Thanks for helping!
June 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcel. Yes. That is why during the clinics I will tell people please don't fall while attempting eyes closed. You are forcing your brain to gain awareness of true balance without the help of seeing yourself in space.
June 14, 2019
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Does this mean I still have not found true balance or do I have true balance and the little CG movements belong there because this kind of balance is what is called "unstable balance" in science? Thanks for helping!
June 15, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcel. If you have little minor adjustments that is normal at first. Neurological issues, muscle imbalance, inner ear conditions, etc.. can all affect the balance. More often than not if you are moving very little it is because you are new to the position and it's weakness in the legs/core. Nothing to be concerned unless you have larger movement and can't stand.
June 15, 2019
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Mitchell
Is the set-up the same way with the driver?
June 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mitchell. Yes, but you can have some variations in stance, ball and axis tilt. Take a look at Proper Tee Height Video.
June 9, 2019
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Bill
Why do you turn in your ankles for the setup drill?
May 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bill. The ankles are rolled slightly to help engage the inner adductors for stability and weight transfer. Take a look at Anchor to the Ground.
May 8, 2019
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John
Does the amount of axis tilt change from say the driver to a pitching wedge?
April 25, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. For stock it won't change, but for a max/high launch it will for a driver. Take a look at Proper Tee Height Video.
April 25, 2019
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Jack
Craig, I am ready to submit my first video with intro and setup. I red in the comments that you make a reference to the swing review Tab and practical checklist. I cannot locate the Practical checklist so my question is what are you looking for in the video? Do I just submit a video showing my set up with a ball in place or do I submit with the video with the setup? I read how to set up the camera for the video down the line and a front view but I am confused with what exactly am I supposed to show for my first video submission.
February 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jack. Swing Reviews Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice is a workout sheet for some of our drills. My suggestion would be a setup with a golf ball. If you can hit the ball that would be even better. What I would want to see is A) Can you setup correctly with a ball and B) What does the swing look like from the proper setup.
February 21, 2019
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Jack
Craig, Swing Reviews Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice does not exist in my phone. Swing review is there but not the checkpoints for practice workout sheet. Is that because I have to review it on my PC instead of my phone?
February 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jack. It must be on the desktop version only. I apologize.
February 21, 2019
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Jack
Thanks Craig for the quick response.
February 21, 2019
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Jay
Hi Craig, I'm a new member and have been working diligently on my setup. The only part of the setup that seems out of place (i.e. feels awkward) to me is the slight inward roll of the ankles. Can you tell me a bit more about the importance of this small (but I'm guessing important) move? Thx, Jay
February 19, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jay. Sounds like you may be rolling the knees closer to each other, or over doing the ankle roll. The slight ankle roll in will help you start to engage the inner thigh adductors. This engagement will help facilitate not only stability, but proper weight transfer. The inner thigh adductors is what helps you pull the weight.
February 19, 2019
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Jeff
What about head position at setup? How much should your chin be up/down when looking at yourself down the line? What about swiveling head to the right a little for right-handed golfer?
February 6, 2019
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Dean
Hey Jeff, I found this thread by Chris; "It is important to keep the spine as neutral as possible when addressing the ball and not allow any sort drastic curvature to happen. Curvature will start to happen when chin starts to move down into the chest. If you are looking out of the bottom of the eyes, you may want to increase the spine angle just a bit. " I'm right handed and I swivel my head to the right a tad as well. I didn't get any complaints about it from Craig so I figure it's a personal preference as long as it's within reason. I wonder if it has something to do with which eye is dominant? I'm left eye dominant.
February 6, 2019
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Jeff
Thanks Dean. Is there a video on this I can watch? Thanks!
February 7, 2019
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Jeff
Dean, is there video that addresses this?
February 8, 2019
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Dean
Type in "Golf Posture" and choose the first video. Some new posts in there and Craig addresses the chin line issue with a member. I learned something new there about the elbow pits not being inline with the shoulders. But this is what you should be looking like my friend.
February 10, 2019
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Jim
Hi - Working on the 5 minutes to perfect set up: To do the 1000 reps, as noted, will take about a month at 5 days a week. In the mean time, I am moving ahead with other videos and study. Do I finish the entire 1000 of those reps before doing ANY other drills? Would seem it would take a very long time to really move forward with the program in terms of real drilling and doing at that rate. Advice and feedback? Also, the axis tilt drill, which precedes the 5 minutes to perfect setup, I overlooked even knowing was there when I started. It seems to be part of the 5 minutes drill, so can I count the reps for that when I do the 5 minutes drill? Thanks in advance for any help/direction you can provide. Best, Jim
January 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. You may count reps for that when doing the 5 Minute Drill. To answer the earlier question. You may stack and rep as many components as possible. For ex: If you can get into a proper setup and transfer weight correctly go for it. Both will start to ingrain the new move and reinforce the older move you already trained. The goal is to rep what you can correctly every time. If you stack too many and the quality dips. You need to back track and own the previous move better before moving on.
January 30, 2019
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Jim
Hi Craig - Thanks. That makes lots of sense. By the way, I will try to get my wife to film my swing and get it sent in this weekend. Is it likely that you would see it? I don't know if the team of instructors is "assigned" to specific students or not. Best, Jim
January 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. It would be myself, or one of the other instructors. When one of us completes the review. That instructor will be assigned for the duration of the swing build.
January 30, 2019
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Jim
Hi Craig - Thanks! Jim
January 31, 2019
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Jim
Actually a question: For the set up/balance drill sequence, did not fully get the purpose of leaning inside on the ankles. Can you explain? Not sure if that "lean in" is the place to end up - does not seem to be a point of increased stability for me. Thanks - Jim in California
January 25, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. Take a look at Anchor to the Ground Video. The reason to engage in the inner adductors is not only for stability. But, the engagement helps with weight transfer. The adductors will pull the weight for you.
January 25, 2019
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Jim
Hi Craig - Thanks. I looked at the video menus and could not find that video. Is the specific name/title possibly a bit different? Odd that turning the ankles in just a bit does seem to activate those inner adductors, but it does. For me, lots of muscles and awareness thereof to "wake up"! Hope to hear back to see if you can help me locate that video. Best, Jim
January 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. The exact title is Anchor to the Ground. Go to the search box and just type "Anchor." It should pop up for you. Love it you are gaining new awareness.
January 27, 2019
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Jim
Hi Craig - Thanks! I will check that out and let you know I found it. Yes, slowly "waking the body awareness" up. I am a 70 year old guy in pretty good shape but totally cock-eyed golf basics and really looking forward to busting through that with this program. Thanks for all your feedback and help. Best, Jim
January 27, 2019
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Chris
I have been a single plan golfer for the past 5 years. It has greatly improved my game. I began to follow the rotary swing and have been implementing many of the drills. My question is, are there any different drills that I should consider since I set up similar to dechambeau and Moe Norman?
January 21, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Chris. Rotary will differ from single plane in a lot of ways. I don't know of any different drills to consider while staying in the same single plane setup.
January 21, 2019
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Paul
Just to make sure I am assuming the correct posture, when I set up over my ankles (slightly), I am able to pick my toes up and still maintain balance. Is this posture position correct? I can maintain this posture even with my eyes closed. Just want to make sure before I get too far along in my reps, thanks
January 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Yes you should be able to wiggle/lift the toes without too much issue.
January 2, 2019
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Alfredo
Good, in my natural configuration, the ankles are already legerous for inside and when I try to turn them more they begin to move the knees, would it be fine like that?
November 15, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alfredo. As long as you keep a good anchor (Anchor to the Ground Video). You should be fine.
November 15, 2018
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William
Maybe I need to review everything more closely--this is first time I noticed the check lists in the swing reviews section that are printable! So here is my question--next week I go out to work with one of your instructors--Darryl Trudeau. What's the difference between working with an instructor and the on-line academy--which is better?
November 2, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. Are you talking about the RSAcademy, or Online Swing Reviews? Working with both an instructor and reviews would be ideal. In person your instructor will be able to physically put you into the position, and online we will be able to continue your guidance to make sure you are getting the principles from your lesson down.
November 2, 2018
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William
Online academy. Since I only half read emails, I somehow thought we could sign up for the Academy for free for a three day trial. Meanwhile I set up a lesson with a pro, as I referenced. Then I realized I actually need to join the academy--and this was the last day. So--not being made of money, I was seeking advice prior to a final decision. I am sure both would be wonderful. Both isn't an option however. Thanks!
November 2, 2018
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Steve
Morning, Is the 5 minute set up counted as 1 rep?
October 31, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steve. If you can do the whole sequence properly in 1 take. Yes. To help you with the process. Go to the Swing Reviews Tab ---> Checkpoints for Practice --> Printable Workout Sheets.
October 31, 2018
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Christopher
How much hip bend/forward spine angle tilt should there be at address? I know I saw it somewhere in the videos, but have searched and searched with key words but cannot re-locate it. Is it a bend from the hips of an approximate number of degrees ? Does it depend on one's height or other factors? (I am a bit over 6' 2", but with long arms and legs for that height and a short trunk.) Thanks much.
October 16, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Christopher. There are genetic factors that play into this because it would be based on your anatomy. Tough to give you an actual degree. If your weight is balanced over the ankle joints and with slight knee bend. Then, all you need to check is your distance from the ball and that the arms are hanging neutrally under the shoulder sockets. Also, a kinda quick find. Stand straight up and down. Start to drop your butt back hinging from your hips. As the head drops keeping the spine in neutral wait until you can see the ball. Drop the arms/relax the knees. Check your position.
October 16, 2018
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Christopher
Thanks Craig. So just when the ball becomes visible in my downward peripheral vision? I recall something in one of the videos mentioning that should bend until one feels the toes coming up (or at least lightening). Is that another tell/cue?
October 17, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Christopher. The toes will be light, but you shouldn't be able to lift them off the ground or you will be too far back on the heels. Yes, until the ball becomes visible.
October 17, 2018
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Mikko-Pekka
Hello Christopher. I asked a similar question below. You may want to check it out?
October 16, 2018
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Christopher
Thanks much Mikko
October 17, 2018
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Christopher
What is proper position of feet, i.e. should the the toes and feet be perfectly square and perpendicular to target line, or should the be opened up slightly with toes pointing slightly out?
October 10, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Christopher. Watch the Should You Splay Your Feet at Setup video. There’s little to no benefit in altering the trail foot; splaying the lead foot can however help to overcome some hip mobility issues.
October 10, 2018
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Christopher
Thanks, Howard. I am just a few days in and am still in the setup and axis tilt foundation drills. For the rest of the 5 main fundamentals, should I fully complete one before starting work on the next?
October 10, 2018
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Howard (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Christopher. Ideally, yes you would progress through the program systematically. Life is not often so orderly and neat of course, but certainly you should see progress as you move through each fundamental.
October 11, 2018
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Christopher
What counts as a “rep” here? Is rocking back and forth once a rep? Shrugging once a rep? Or is the whole 5 step sequence a rep?
October 8, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Christopher. Click the Swing Reviews Tab ---> Checkpoints for Practice ---> Printable Workout Sheet - Setup. Exactly what you need to follow.
October 9, 2018
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Christopher
Hi Craig Thanks for the reply. Is that option available on the mobile site? I see the swing review in the menus, but not the “checkpoints for practice” sub-menu.
October 9, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Christopher. It should be. If not, try the link below. https://rotaryswing.com/swing-reviews/checkpoints-for-practice
October 9, 2018
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Christopher
Thanks. That worked. One general question, and feel free to redirect me if this is on site somewhere: Do I literally go through each of the 5 sections in order, fully completing one before moving to the next? Also, are all of these drills “dry practice”, meaning no hitting balls? Should one abstain from hitting balls in meantime? I may be off base, but it seems like it takes quite a while to work through the drills and wasn’t sure how or when I should hit balls at range or play a round. Thanks again and sorry for all the questions.
October 9, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Christopher. Ideally, you wouldn't hit too many balls during the rebuild. But, you can slowly add some range the more proficient you get at a move to test your work. You don't have to get every video down in each section. The other ones are supplemental homework for specific issues. If you achieve the proper setup. Work through the RST 5 Step System. It will give you the all the core positions to have a great swing and use the other videos for the fine tuning. Typically, until you can get to moving the body and club correctly you don't need to start pounding golf balls.
October 9, 2018
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Mikko-Pekka
Is there a way to find out how much you should hinge from the hips in setup? I had a lesson (I wasn't familiar with RST then) a couple of years ago and my instructor said that I was too upright. I have watched a ton of videos about posture but none mentions anything about how much to hinge. I would like to ask that is there a RST way to find out how much to hinge or is it a variable?
August 23, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mikko. The arms should be hanging neutrally from the shoulder socket (shoulder socket to elbow joint). If you get the proper distance from the ball (How Far to Stand from the Golf Ball) and you clubs are proper length (Posture's Effect on the Takeaway) you should be okay.
August 23, 2018
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roger
Hi I have just had my first swing review and I was way too bent in the knees. With this less bend setup (much taller for me now) do I have the same spine angle from sand wedge to driver or do i bend over more for shorter clubs. I am struggling to get my pitching wedge to the ground. PS. 5 iron shown
July 28, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Roger. Try to get the arms out just a hair more (How Far to Stand from the Ball Video). And, make sure the weight is centered over the ankle joints (Finding True Balance). The spine angle will slightly change with length of club. Wedge you will be hinged forward slightly more than you would a 5 iron.
July 28, 2018
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William
I saw this video referred to for how much to hing but I don't see it on the site. Has it been replaced?
November 12, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. The video is still on the site. Type "How Far" into the search box. It will appear on drop down menu. Also, Common Setup Faults and Fixes Video will be useful.
November 13, 2019
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roger
Thank You Craig, I did see some of these videos suggested in other comments below but then I got distracted by the other interesting videos that popped up in the search results . THanks again.
July 28, 2018
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roger
Hi Craig, Just had second video and instructor wanted more bend from the waist so that my arms (shoulders to elbows) hang pretty much vertical. Still a bit confused. Would this be the same for 5 iron and Driver? ie. same arm hang with clubs going at different angles from the hands to ground. Thanks, Roger. PS. Playing better from just this setup stuff
August 9, 2018
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Mariam
I just found that if I externally rotate both hips slightly (think Rickie Fowler but less exaggerated) I have a much easier time with squatting to square and pulling from left side. I also think my posture and transition in 9 to 3 look more like chuck, Chris, and Craig. I went back to this video to see what you say and only see you mentioning leaning inside on ankles. I understand it's important to be inside enough on right foot to rotate in backswing around right hip without sliding, but this seems possible with knees bowed out slightly. Does this sound correct? Seems to help a lot.
June 20, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jay. Are you meaning solely at setup, or during the transition?
June 21, 2018
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Mariam
I guess both but mostly setup - by a slight bowing so that my knees feel like they are more over my ankles instead of inside them I feel earlier flute activation, and have less distance to go to externally rotate left knee to squat and start transition. If that doesn't make sense, I guess maybe you could just take a look for next review? I've felt for a while like I really need to work to get to the left side in the transition and this small setup adjustment makes it a lot easier to get over to left side without any push from the right. Hopefully it is correct!
June 21, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jay. Mention it to me in the next review. Ideally, you want the inner adductors ready to engage and pull in the swing. Typically, the bowing allows you to get to the outside of the feet. But, it may just be a feeling for you.
June 21, 2018
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Mariam
Ok will do. It seems like I'm still able to keep my weight to the inside enough but I will remind you and we can see. Thanks so much for your help.
June 21, 2018
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Magnus
Initially when I tried this drill it felt like the right nee was collapsing a tiny bit when I did the hip bump and axis tilt. I guess it should not? It will move to the right with the hip bump, but apart from it should stay the same?
May 16, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Magnus. You might have a hair of movement. It shouldn't be collapsing inwards and pretty stable. Sounds like you may be overdoing it. Take a look at Common Golf Setup Faults and Fixes Video.
May 16, 2018
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Frank
What video addresses the shoulder blades at setup?
April 18, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frank. Connect to Your Core.
April 18, 2018
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Craig
I am very new to working through the process so take that into account with my question. When I set up this way and kick the hips forward, I feel more weight on my back foot. Further, with the spine tilt, I feel like I am getting the club stuck behind me more than before. Any advice?
February 17, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Craig. You may be over doing the tilt. You still want the weight balance at setup 50/50 when adding Axis Tilt. Take a look at Common Setup Faults and Fixes. Also, if you tend to push your weight instead of pull. You will create more secondary tilt getting stuck. Preventing Hip Pain Video and Level Shoulders Drill.
February 17, 2018
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Carl
while doing the setup, after the hinging, I feel most of my weight being supported by my glutes. Is that a good thing?
January 20, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Carl. Glutes and over the center of the ankle joints would be a very good sensation.
January 21, 2018
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Dean
Do you have a downloadable form to keep track of our reps
January 11, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dean. Go to the Swing Review Tab ---> Checkpoints for Practice.
January 11, 2018
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Dean
Thanks
January 11, 2018
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Ryan
Just starting this system. Its amazing how much I want to go to my toes in almost every one of the steps. After doing a 100 reps it still takes me 1 minute to get to the proper position. I could just imagine what that would look like on the golf course. Now I know why you say to do 1000 reps!! Looking forward to doing the next 900 before moving on too much.
January 11, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Exactly. Thanks for the post. It will help our members further understand the course is just a distraction in the beginning while trying to change your movement patters.
January 11, 2018
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Barry
Should I stop playing any golf while I start this program?
November 22, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Barry. Ideally, if you are really committed to changing your swing. Playing golf sadly should go to the way side.
November 22, 2017
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Barry
And is this a minimum six month process; one month for setup and one month for each of the 5 steps? So if I am really committed to changing my swing, you are saying that I should not play any golf for at least 6 months?
November 23, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Barry. The time is all up to the student. The goal is a minimum of 100 reps per practice session. And, 3000-5000 to master a new movement. With respect that all moves were performed properly. While changing the new movement patterns students that typically play a lot of golf have the tendency to revert back to their older motor patterns.
November 23, 2017
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Samuel
Hi When I do the Hip Bump/Axis Tilt I feel weight shift slightly to my right foot. I'm I doing something wrong or is this correct?
October 31, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Sam, you are probably trying to get too much tilt. Check out the common setup faults and fixes video where I discuss how to get proper weight distribution. If that doesn't help, let me know and I will further assist you.
October 31, 2017
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Frederick
I’m 74 inches tall but have a 32 inch in seam. If I setup like you mention then I’m too close to the ball and I have a grounding swing. What’s the proper setup for someone with my dimensions?
October 21, 2017
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Frederick
Additionally if I setup like you show I have to choke up about 3 inches
October 21, 2017
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Dave
Hi Craig Am I correct in presuming that after my 4 weeks worth of reps I should be able to step to the ball and setup in a few seconds, because I will have totally absorbed all the elements of the perfect setup? Dave
October 7, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. Yes. After you have performed enough reps to ingrain the new motor pattern it will be quick and easy.
October 7, 2017
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Dave
Thanks again Craig. Dave
October 8, 2017
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Dave
Re the perfect setup position ... does this apply to the driver too? Dave
October 3, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dave. Take a look at the Proper Tee Height Video for variations using the driver.
October 4, 2017
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Dave
Thanks Craig. Dave Carse
October 7, 2017
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user48205
Hi Gordon here I have just joined and find myself one of your frustrated golfers In my heyday i managed to play to a one h/cap. After 40years i decided to modernize my swing. Now after 10years 3 teachers who taught me their methods i am playing to a 14h/cap and have 4 swings to choose from. I am reduced to chipping my driver as i am not sure which swing will win on any given day. I have always been happy to work hard on my golf so when i study RST i find even my original setup was flawed My question is Do i learn RST as if i am a complete beginner ? At 70 i am too young to give up on 60years of golf but right now there is not enough room on my golf course Yours Gordon
September 18, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gordon. I wouldn't think complete beginner, but there are some basic items you must have. My suggestion to keep you from over working, or putting too much emphasis on the wrong items would be a swing review. Pass this note you typed above to your instructor. Let the instructor guide you to the quickest and most efficient path for you to improve your game.
September 18, 2017
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user48205
Tks Craig
September 18, 2017
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Les
I have a question regarding club length. I know there is the recommended lengths for different heights (standard length for me at 6' with 35" WTF), but with RST do the club lengths change?
September 7, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Les. Most people tend to miss with clubs being built to long. However, standard (if fit properly), or slightly shorter would be preferred.
September 7, 2017
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Mark
So, why shift weight back 1 inch then forwards 3 inches. Why not just shift forwards 2 inches into NJA? I must be missing something.
August 1, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mark. Weight shift does a ton for the golf swing. Change of direction for lag, shallowing out the path, momentum/tempo, power, etc. Weight Shift is after the Setup category on the site for a purpose. Due to the importance over other swing mechanics.
August 1, 2017
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Mark
My apologies. I actually thought I was commenting on a different video: 5 minute golf setup w/ weight shift (I thought I was reviewing setup videos). I was thinking the weight shift mentioned was part of the setup routine but turns out it's a drill for weight shift! That could have been disastrous for my setup - lucky you replied so quickly and I figured out what was going on. How embarrassing. FWIW I have found the weight shift drills (combined with the core rotation training) very helpful so far. Cheers.
August 1, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
No problem Mark. Glad you have found the drills helpful.
August 2, 2017
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Andre
I'm a fairly new member but making much needed progress. As I video myself, I struggle to keep my posture with shorter clubs. I naturally bend more from the waist with my hands closer to my body then they should. Yet when I force myself into the proper setup with shorter clubs, I feel too upright/tall. Should my setup be exactly the same with all clubs?
July 25, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andre. The setup does stay the same with components (other than driver), but the hinge from the waist may vary a little from longer to shorter club.
July 25, 2017
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Andre
Thank you Craig, Makes more sense to me now. I’m to assume that with each hinge angle change from the waist, comes a small lower body offsetting weight adjustment so that the entire setup remains balanced over the ankles, correct?
July 25, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andre. Yes, you want to make sure that the weight balance stays adjusted over the center of the ankles when changing hinge.
July 25, 2017
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Mike
Can you confirm weight my weight (% left/% right) at each position? Address, full shoulder turn, impact, finish. Mostly concerned with address. My tendency is to load more right than left. Thanks. This program is great.
July 11, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mike. Address - 50/50. Full shoulder turn 80/20 trail to lead side. Impact 80-90 lead side. Finish - no weight bearing on trail side. Full transfer.
July 11, 2017
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Mike
So it takes some practice at address and stay 50-50 because your leaning trail side. Any tips on how that should feel? I've been struggling to stay 50-50 with proper spine tilt at address.
July 11, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mike. The hip bump/tilt should negate each other to help maintain 50/50, or you are overdoing the tilt. Take a look at Common Golf Setup Faults and Fixes.
July 11, 2017
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Kenneth
Craig ...I notice that hip bump that brings my hands together on the grip... slightly shifts weight to the left side and Chuck confirms this about 5 minutes into this video. So I would argue that weight distribution at setup might be 60(left) side and 40 (right side). Did I misunderstand Chuck in this video?
September 18, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kenneth. You will get a sensation of weight shifting when adding tilt into the lead side. But, you aren't trying to preset weight on the lead. You want to feel a balance of 50/50 before starting to swing. Feeling the slight shift while adding is normal, but should be very minimal.
September 18, 2017
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Christopher
Do we want to get to 5000 reps of each of the 5 practice points or 1000 of each 5 for a total of 5000 reps?... i.e. 5000 rock + 5000 shrug + 5000 hinge, 5000 lean inside + 5000 hip bump vs. 1000 rock + 1000 shrug + 1000 hinge + 1000 lean + 1000 hip bump? Thanks much!
July 6, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Christopher, 3000-5000 reps of the entire setup will get you ingrained. You don't need to breakdown the setup or any movement into sub-increments like that. Those are just checkpoints that you need to look for after each total setup rep. Hope that helps.
July 6, 2017
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Christopher
Yes that helps!
July 6, 2017
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Robert
Hello. I've watched all videos in the SetUp and Intro section but it only says I am 96% complete. Also, it says 0.0% drills complete but there isn't anywhere to track reps in this section...correct? Thanks!
May 28, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. Yes, the rep tracker is only under the 5 Step Series Drill Only Videos. I am unable to check from my end about the setup videos. You would have to check with Customer Service on that one. I apologize.
May 29, 2017
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Matt
My question is if I have a big chest and big arms, I feel like my arms stay connected to the outside of my chest. Is this correct? It looks like my arms are very far apart at the set up as a result. This only occurs when I pull my shoulders back as well.
May 25, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matt. You want the shoulders retracted and in the box. You don't want to pull the blades down so hard that you can't maintain neutral or relaxed arm position. Use the Golf Grip Tips for placement of the arms at setup to make sure they aren't too far apart. You want to have a sensation of being slightly above and on the side of the pectorals. Also, take a look at the Gorilla Grip Video to make sure you don't round and reach in front.
May 25, 2017
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Robert
Craig: In other words, some people describe this as squeezing or being on top of the Charming. On top, being sort of at 12 o'clock, squeezing sort of at 3 o'clock. You want the arms relaxed at about 1:30?
July 23, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rob. If I gather your analogy correctly, then yes.
July 24, 2017
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Matt
Thanks, Craig! I will take a look at those. It just didn't feel natural having them on the sides like that. Makes sense that they need to be just slightly on top.
May 25, 2017
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Stephen
Have been doing this for about three of weeks now and i have played golf twice in the last few days. I usually never get stiff or sore after golf but I have noticed a fair amount of stiffness (not real pain) the next morning in my left hip, inside of my ankles and in my shoulder blades. I'm hoping this is because I am now actually using the right muscles that I have never used properly before.
May 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. You might be little sore from engaging new muscles and better setup. But, it sounds more like a swing issue, than setup. The new setup is fighting your old move.
May 25, 2017
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Stephen
Thanks Craig. It definitely feels odd and very "tight" whilst swinging. Far tighter than before. My ball flight is far better though and a bit further. I'll have to just put up with the soreness until I get further into the levels I suppose.
May 25, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. The better the setup stays and the more the swing improves. The tension levels will subside. Glad to hear ball striking is going in the proper direction.
May 25, 2017
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Bob
How and where do I log my reps of the drills?
May 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bob. The 5 Step Series Drill Only Videos have the rep tracker.
May 25, 2017
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Frank
Any rule of thumb on amount of bow forward and little knee bend? How much is enough/too much? Thanks
May 21, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frank. Take a look at How Far to Stand from the Ball and Dustin Johnson - Setup for Consistency. You will see distance from the ball will help you adjust forward hinge and some lines you may draw for your own setup. You want the center of the ankle joint lined up with the back of the knee.
May 21, 2017
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Luis
Hello from spain Craig. First of all I apologize for my english.I have a question... I just started today with the set up and I did the first 150 reps...I do not know where do I have to add them to get the maximum that I can do in one month. Also I would like to know if I have to be with the set up reps the whole month without "touching a club"or i can continue watching videos from the program and playing golf with my "bad habits" of all these years since I started playing in 2013.Thanks a lot ...the way you speak in the videos it's very easy to understand for foreigners like me.
May 8, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Luis. Thanks for the compliments on the videos. Take a look at the Practice Sheets. Go to the menu bar. Select Swing Reviews ---> Checkpoints for Practice --> Printable Workout Sheets. You many continue to watch other videos and play. However, know that it will take time to ingrain the newer motor patterns and you need to stay focused solely on the goal.
May 8, 2017
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Jonathan
When I finish the lean inside the ankles feeling, do I continue to lean inside once I go for the hip bump/axis tilt motion? Thank you in advance!
April 5, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jonathan. Even when axis tilt is added you want to keep the pressure more inward on the feet, than outward. Take a look at the Anchor to the Ground Video.
April 5, 2017
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Greg
Hi Craig, I am running through my series of reps. Today I have three questions. Can you please clarify when I hinge forward from the hips and let the arms 'hang' - 1. should the hands be together? 2. should the arms be touching the front of my chest? 3. One cycle of ten reps (eyes open/closed) through the exercise how many do you count on the way to the goal number of reps so it is ingrained? Thanks, Greg
March 20, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Greg. Keep the hands about 2-3 inches apart. You will feel a little connection in the upper bicep and upper pectoral. Take a look at the Printable Workout Sheets. Great way to get the required reps (Swing Reviews Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice)
March 20, 2017
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BRIAN
The description of hip bump and axis tilt is slightly confusing. Are they two distinct movements or one? Posture is a problem for me in golf and otherwise, I am really trying to get this right!
March 9, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Brian. Slight hip bump and tilt increase. You are trying to make it one blended move. Take a look at Importance of Axis Tilt and Common Golf Setup Faults and Fixes for further info.
March 9, 2017
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Hank
Thanks Craig. That helped to clarify in getting my correct setup.
February 20, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hank. No problem.
February 20, 2017
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Hank
I am a large guy with a large upper girth. I notice when I am in my correct posture that my arms and hands are still at shoulder with apart due to the girth. As a result I feel like my hip bump and tilt required is quite a bit. The alternative is to allow my arms to sit a bit over my chest, but am not sure if this is rounding my shoulders and taking me "out of the box".
February 18, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hank. For players with an overly large chest. You might have to allow the arms to sit a hair more in front. Giving the feeling of being out of the box. Get as close as you can, but we understand sometimes there may be an issue. Take a look at Common Golf Setup Faults and Fixes if you still struggle with the tilt.
February 19, 2017
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Robert
Quick question. When viewing the setup from dtl the middle of my shoulder should be hanging over the toes correct? If so, and we have soft arms and are in the box, my forearms and hands are hanging past my toes. I’m not “reaching” at all, that’s just where my lower arms hang if my upper arms are hanging over my toes. Is that a correct position to be in or are the hands hanging over the toes? The former is much more comfortable and feels correct but I thought I’d ask.
February 9, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rob. Take a look at How Far to Stand from the Ball and check your chin/trail hand line. It sounds like from your notes that the former is in the correct position.
February 9, 2017
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Paul
I'm trying to replay the setup drill but I get an error message saying "Sorry, There is was an issue with playback. Please tell me what the problem is and how I can avoid it.
January 26, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Paul. It is working properly on my end. Make sure you are using Chrome and/or Firefox. Try refreshing the page before you replay the video. If you still have the error. Please notify Customer Support. I apologize for the issue.
January 27, 2017
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Paul
When do you move on to the next step? Wait until done doing 3-5k reps or start next step and start adding those exercises/reps to my current ones from Setup? If so, when does one start dropping initial exercises/reps (after getting to 3-5k) Can you give a time scenario on how it plays out going through RST 1-5? Thanks
January 22, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. After 3000-5000 your body should know no other way to move. The motor pattern change should be complete. This is if you want to master said position. However, after about 1000 reps you will become proficient at creating a certain move and can add a few pieces. But, you will need to be very conscience of not losing what you've already gained since you are providing more input to the brain. The time scenario will vary depending on your schedule. The goal will be to get a minimum off 100 perfect reps per session. To at least get 1000 before trying a new step (with keeping tight awareness) and 3000-5000 to completely master. The same process for the 5 Step System. Use the printable workout sheets under the Swing Review Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice to have a good guide to follow.
January 23, 2017
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Paul
Need further clarity on this. Just finished week of Setup and used the sheet. Had 150 reps day (over the 5 exercises) 900 total for the week. But the 900 is over 5 exercises. How do I keep track properly? IE need to get to 1000 than 3-5k for EACH EXERCISE? I see in next section (Weight shift) only 1 drill so math easy to figure on that plus the move is one I want to do a few thousand times. In Setup so I need to rock fwd, back, shrug shldrs, lean inside ankles 3-5k times. Hinging and hip bump I could see needing 3-5k. Thanks
January 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. I'm confused on how to keep track properly question? Hopefully, I am assuming correctly. You performed 900 reps of the 5 exercises from the sheet. This is 900 out of your 3000-5000 to master. Each step in the setup series is designed to be stacked upon the next to help accelerate the learning of a fundamentally sound setup position. If you struggle with a certain aspect (tilt, weight placement) you may add supplemental reps. But, I would think after a few more days you will be well on your way to getting the sequence and position correct.
January 24, 2017
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Paul
Craig, When there are multiple exercises per section like in Setup there are 5. I did 900 reps for the week. If you do what the sheet says you get 900 week. So over 4-5 weeks I should be complete with setup. My confusion is you're counting 900 over 5 exercises so not getting 900 or ultimately 3-5k for EACH exercise. You say they stack. In weight shift it's ONE exercise so will ultimately get 3-5k just on this one exercise. Understand know?
January 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. Yes, 900 per week and completed in 4-5 Weeks. After completing that many reps because the motions are very simple and basic motor pattern moves. You will be able to perform them with ease. A more complicated motion I would recommend that you needed extra training. But, the hinging/shrugging/etc are somewhat basic motions. Unless there is an aspect you struggle with they don't need 3000-5000 on their own.
January 24, 2017
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Paul
Where do you put in your practice reps so they're counted? Sorry, I'm sure this has been asked. Maybe have a FAQ of the same questions asked.... How is the math figured on reps? IE It's 50 rep for the 5 exercises for 1 rep, so that's 150 doing 3 sets and it's 750 week (if doing 5 days) or if do every day for 30 days you're at 4500 which is much more than the 1000 calculated in the video. Please explain how reps calculated and paced over time. And what science is he using to back this up? Many many theories on how long it takes to ingrain new motor skill. What have been avg for RTS students thus far? Thanks
January 16, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. The rep tracker is only for the RST 5 Step System. I would advise using the printable worksheets under the Swing Reviews Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice. Yes, that would be 150 for sets of 3. It usually takes about 3000-5000 perfect repetitions to change a motor pattern. Take a look at the Truths of Instruction Series. I will leave a link below. Watch all 5. The last two deal with changing motor patterns and learning new movements. https://rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction-videos/full-swing-basics/introduction/truths-of-instruction-part-1
January 17, 2017
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Paul
Craig, I'm doing the 5 step. Just started - on setup/intro. Doing the sheets but want to put in reps too on the tracker, so where would I put in reps? My point was the math - for setup/intro reps are 150 day as prescribed so over a month doing 20-30 days can get to 3,000 easily. So can do it in 1 month? Thanks
January 17, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. If you view the "Drill Only" Video in the 5 Step System. There will be a tab on the left in the Video Toolbar. Yes, you can do it in 1 month.
January 18, 2017
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Paul
Thanks Craig. Where is Drill only video? Looked all over. Mean the drills video at the end of each section?
January 18, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Use the search bar. Type in Step 1 - Weight Shift - Drill Only. You should see Rep Tracker on the left.
January 18, 2017
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Paul
Can you drop me a link or screen shot for tracker? Search function didn't work. Thanks
January 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. This video will show you near the end. https://youtu.be/LyR98hRinkE
January 24, 2017
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Glenn
I have completed all the training videos for this section but my dash board only shows 96 % complete what am I missing to get to 100%?
January 4, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Glenn. Hmm. I am unsure. Please notify Customer Service. They are more adept at handling the issue.
January 4, 2017
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Sean
NB Bump Hips to the left as past of the set up with weight based around the ankles rather than on the balls of the feet.
January 2, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Sean. Do you have a question about the weight setup, or was this for your notes?
January 3, 2017
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Scott
As I'm practicing in front of a mirror I realize that my head position is partially cocked to the left (I'm right handed), kind of like Nicklaus. Is this going to be an issue down the road that I should correct now or is it ok to go with that head position since it feels comfortable (I've been doing that forever I think).
December 4, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Scott. If it bothers you, then change it. If the head stays relatively stable in your swing. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
December 5, 2016
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Brian
When playing I usually grip club before setup while behind ball. Should I regrip after setup or just hold club in left hand when looking at target from behind ball.
December 3, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Brian. I would experiment with just the left hand.
December 5, 2016
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Bob
I'm just getting started with the videos and the daily practice routine. All of this makes perfect sense and my setup feels powerful - like a loaded gun. My only question is with my shoulders back my arms feel like they are really tight against my ribcage in order for me to get my hands low enough to be in the proper set up position. Please let me know if this is just me getting used to a new feeling (which I suspect) or if I am doing something wrong. Thanks!
November 21, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bob. Some players it is just getting used to the new setup. Others that have a very wide chest or shorter arms. May need to feel no so depressed in the shoulders blades to allow the arms to hang freely. Just try to keep the back as straight as possible and not too much shoulder protraction to pull you out of the box.
November 22, 2016
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Alan
Once I complete the axis tilt step, should my back arm (left for me as left-handed golfer) be bent? Straight and locked? Straight and relaxed? Thanks!
November 4, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. Take a look at the Right Elbow Pit Video. Flip it around for lefty.
November 4, 2016
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Tom
I am having trouble with the axis tilt - when I shift my hips it feels like my weight is very pre-loaded left (right-handed golfer) and it is harder to shift to my back foot on takeaway. What if I keep hips neutral and tilt upper body only?
November 1, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Thomas. You might be overdoing the tilt and/or shift. Take a look at the Common Golf Setup Faults and Fixes Video.
November 1, 2016
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Steve
Hi, sorry i am missing something here, i find the drill really helpful, my game is improving and i use the basis of this drill as my pre shot routine. However i am not sure if the drill should be carried out in the neutral joint alignment stance width or 2" outside of neutral. If the former when should i add the 2" each side of neutral movement, so i may integrate it to my pre shot routine. Thanks.
October 24, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steve. Most players find the stance width early on in the rotary process. If you know where you should stand. Go ahead and start in the 2 inch outside position. If you struggle finding it. Then, add into your routine before you hinge from the hips.
October 24, 2016
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Dennis
I have just joined the RST program and have two questions. 1. When should I start sending in video's of my golf swing? 2. How do I add my reps to the site such that they show up or do I track separately on a spreadsheet?
October 23, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dennis. Send videos at your discretion. However, if you start with a review before you start your journey. The instructor will tailor your most pertinent areas of need first. Under certain videos with the rep tracker you can add them in manually or use the worksheets under Checkpoints for Practice under the Swing Reviews Tab.
October 24, 2016
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Douglas
Hey guys,in the FIVE step system there are circles that she o w my video and rep p progress. My video progress is, 95%,but my reps are 0%. How does the reps progress keep track?
September 29, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Douglas. You have to add your reps as you practice them. It will be the middle tab at the top of the video bar.
October 3, 2016
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Steve
Did you make a change to the website layout? I can't find a "middle tab at the top of the video bar." I've been all over the site and can't find a place to add reps for "setup".
January 3, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steve. There are some changes going on with the site. The Rep Tracker is only located in the 5 Step System Drill Only Videos.
January 4, 2017
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Curt
Can I print out the last slide that summarizes the drills to be done every day?
September 26, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Curt. Go to the Swing Reviews Tab --> Checkpoints for Practice. Printable worksheets.
September 27, 2016
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Curt
Thanks. The following video is recommended on the printable worksheet: http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfbiomechanics/proper-golf-swing-practice.php When I cut and paste it I get the video, but it wants me to sign up (pre-joining), and I can't get it on the website.
September 27, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Curt. Try Perfect Practice Makes Perfect in the search bar and How to Practice Golf. The video you are referring too is being re-organized.
September 27, 2016
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Curt
Thanks...I'm getting organized. I am set to begin drills for "Perfect Setup". Can I do this drill 2-3 time per day to accelerate my progress, or do I really need to keep doing this daily for a month before layering in next phase?
September 27, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Curt. Think of you brain like a bicep when working out. It can only do so much until fatigue sets in. You may train more often during the day. But, you will have to be careful of exactness and quality. Because it will start to get a little sloppy. Rest is needed to complete the learning cycle.
September 27, 2016
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David
Hey guys, just starting out here. My biggest question so far - should I do this drill *only* for a month, or can I start layering in drills from the weight shift section as well? I want to make sure I'm being as effective as possible. Do you guys have some kind of drill schedule for the 5-step system?
September 23, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. The 5 Step system is typically a minimum of 100 perfect reps in a practice session. After a 1000 you will get pretty proficient at performing the move. 3000-5000 to master said move. You can layer as you like. The key is once you get around 1000 reps if you want to stack more components. You have to make sure you don't lose the previous move too quickly. If you lose it. You need to back down a step ingrain for longer, then continue stacking.
September 23, 2016
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Colin
Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips doesn't actually show how much shaft lean is recommended at address.
September 9, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Colin. The lead hand will be placed just inside the lead thigh. Your goal is to have the club vertical at setup.
September 9, 2016
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Colin
This is a question on shaft lean at address. I've always thought that there should be some shaft lean at address but saw a very good golfer addressing the ball wit no shaft lean. I then read/saw something that suggested that shaft lean at address would have a negative effect on having the hands forward at impact (shaft leaning). In other words, it was said that no shaft lean at address would create better shaft lean at impact. What's your view?
September 6, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Colin. I agree that you don't want excessive shaft lean at address. Too much would have an affect on proper lean at impact. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips to find proper placement.
September 6, 2016
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Dominique
Please confirm this thing : while hinging rom the hips, we must feel the weight going upon the heels ?
July 24, 2016
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
You want the end result of your weight to be centered under your ankles. If you are hinging like I am in the video you recently commented on, you will feel the weight shift to the heels and then when you soften your knees, the weight should move directly under the ankles.
July 25, 2016
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John
Hi there. RST is an awesome resource and am really enjoying it so far! Are there any videos/ articles on "visualizing" the shot, pre-shot routine, and actually addressing the ball, etc? Both physical and "mental setup" to the shot if you will? Thanks
July 14, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. We don't have any mental cues other than the Trust Line Video. Thanks for the compliments of the site.
July 14, 2016
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Anthony
Does the butt of the club point to any particular place on the body? ie, the left hip joint, etc... Is it the same for all clubs, minus the putter?
June 28, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Anthony. Don't worry too much about the butt end of the club. Make sure you are hinged forward properly and the arms are the proper distance. You should be fine from there.
June 29, 2016
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Scott
I've been following the video based on the recommended sequence. Of course, I'm still playing golf and what I'm trying to do is develop a routine, something I can depend on in pre-shot so that I'm consistently doing the same thing over and over. I feel my arms hanging when I have no club. To get the same sensation, because me tendency is to get out on my toes, which I've noticed because of the exercise. I just hold the club in my left hand and as I get comfortable and balanced, I add my right hand and it forces the axis tilt/hip pump. Do you have any recommendation for a pre-shot routine for the set-up while on the course or is what I described acceptable? Thank you.
April 29, 2016
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Scott, what you describe is perfectly acceptable. Have you seen the fixing your setup video? This video was designed to help you have a process in place to get setup perfectly every single time. Maybe take a look at that video and see if it helps.
April 29, 2016
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Scott
Thanks!
April 29, 2016
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Rich
Been a member for awhile and came back to refresh on setup. I am having issues/pain in my trail, shoulder from swinging. I think part or maybe all of the issue is that my trail arm is "out of the box". In other words when I go to put my trail hand on the the club, I reach and roll my shoulder forward. I am trying to understand if my arm should be underneath my peck at setup or if you have any ideas on assuring that I setup connected.
April 27, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rich. There should be a little connection to the pectoral and more or less nestling on the side. Take a look at the Right Elbow Pit Alignments Video and the Golf Grip Tips. They will help with proper placement.
April 27, 2016
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Danny
I did not note anywhere in the setup video's as to the arms & wrists alignments. I am right handed. I find when I am most effective in striking the ball I have my left wrist "flat" at setup, arms hanging with slight bend in right elbow (right arm slightly inside/lower than left arm). Left arm resting on left pectoral near to sternum. This allows me to make the rotation without having to worry about a flat left wrist at the top. I note that a lot of players set up with their left wrist "cupped" - is it best to have the set up "flat" or "Cupped" or does it matter if either works for you? Thanks,
April 12, 2016
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Michael
Hi Danny, I'm no pro but found that I was doing something similar. I then worked out that my club heads on my irons were about 3 degrees out. By flattening my wrist I was bringing the club head back down flat onto the ground (if that makes sense). Anyway, since having them fixed I've been striking the ball a lot cleaner without having to force my wrist straight. This may be nothing like your problem but I thought I'd share one of my experiances.
June 27, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Danny. The lead wrist will start out a little cupped. A few videos for you to take a look at. Golf Grip Tips, Fixing Your Setup, Right Elbow Pit, and Golf Grip Being Out of the Box Video. They will all explain the position of the arms and wrists.
April 12, 2016
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Mark
Hi I thought there was a printable 5 minute log somewhere on the site but now I can't find it.
April 9, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mark. Go to the Swing Reviews Tab ---> Checkpoint for Practice.
April 9, 2016
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Barry
Do you suggest putting the golf clubs away while learning the new moves (setup, rotation, takeaway, etc)? I have 50 years of habit to break.
March 12, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Barry. In the initial, you don't need the golf club. You will get in the way of retraining new movement patterns. If you move the body correctly the club will follow suit. I would start without a club and once you can perform the moves pretty effortlessly. Then, gradually introduce the metal stick.
March 12, 2016
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Barry
Thanks.
March 12, 2016
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gary
Could you explain the ankle roll toward the inside (3:42) mark a bit more? Should the weight be on the inside of the ankle at address?
February 15, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Gary. Take a look at the Anchor to the Ground Video. Some players tend to sway or get to the outer edges of the feet too quickly. You want to keep the pressure more on the inside of the feet than outside.
February 15, 2016
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Jack
Re: Axis tilt at address It seems like the bump for tilt is immediately eliminated as we shift our weight to the right side at start of takeaway?
January 19, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jack. When shifting the weight the whole body moves. It isn't a bump back of the hips to the original position negating axis tilt. Take a look at the Winter Setup Video.
January 19, 2016
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Justin
Hi Guys, question on axis tilt. When adding a small hip bump with axis tilt, should we allow a small amount of forward shaft lean? It looks as if Chucks hands move just past the inside of his left thigh. I assume the club shaft should lean a little forward with this move as well?
January 15, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Justin. The club should be vertical. Not too much forward shaft lean at address. Take a look at the Fixing Your Setup Video.
January 15, 2016
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Lance
I have struggled to have a comfortable and balanced address position with my weight on the heels primarily My understanding so far with rst is that the golf swing is a weight shift from heel to heel. So recently I noticed it helped to settle on the heels if I looked at the target rather than the ball at address - does this make sense? After working on this concept I found that my weight on the front of my feet was still a factor at address until I turned my head to the target Next I tried to address the ball with the left arm only and settle the weight onto my heels - it was even easier to get into good balance on the heels - from there I brought my right arm/hand to the club with axis tilt and hip bump and the weight on the heels seemed even firmer. Every swing from then on really felt like my weight shift was heel to heel Do you any feedback for me? Thanks
December 29, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lance. I think looking at the target is helping you get a better kinesthetic awareness of where your weight is in relation to toes or over ankle joints. It makes sense that you are using your feel better to find the balance, than trying to find a perfect static position using the ball a the relative starting point.
December 29, 2015
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Lance
Thanks Craig Are their any drills that help reinforce the heel to heel weight shift?
December 30, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lance. 5 Minutes to the Perfect Weight Shift. Part 2 and 3 Impact Series.
December 30, 2015
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Braden
At the end of this video it says that you are going to do 1000 reps in a month depending on how many reps you do a day. Being a member on Rotaryswing I know that it takes 3000 to 5000 reps to fully ingrain a new movement pattern. Do you want to do these drills until you have completed the 3000 to 5000 reps?
December 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Braden. It takes 3000-5000 to master a new movement pattern to which the body knows no other way to move. You are more than welcome to complete that many reps. That being said. After about a 1000. The body will get very proficient at creating the new position or move. You will do enough proper setups as you being your rotation drills some of them will be knocked out while performing them.
December 8, 2015
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Ross
In my most recent swing review, Steven drew three vertical lines. The first was in line with my ankles. The second was in line with my backside. The third was in line with my chin and roughly where the grip meets the shaft. His advice was that these lines should be roughly equally spaced and diagnosed my position as being too much over my toes. Steven's advice made sense, but where is the third line measured from? Is it the chin? Where the grip meets the shaft? Or somewhere else?
November 25, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ross. Use the base of the hands. Usually, the spot where the grip meets the shaft.
November 27, 2015
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Ross
Thanks. I looked at the sample swings on the right side of the self-analysis page. When I draw the lines, none of them seem to be equally spaced. Can you point me to a swing video I can use as a model?
November 28, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ross. Chuck DTL 8 Iron. Both of them should be pretty spot on.
November 28, 2015
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Ross
Thanks Craig. That's the video which made me wonder. To get the lines equally spaced on that video, I had to put the third line somewhere near Chuck's toes. The spot where the grip meets the shaft seems much further from the ankle line.The picture in the certification manual matches what Steven said. I'll use that for guidance.
November 29, 2015
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Marc
Dear Greg, This is Marc, I would like to thank you for the very insightful review you just gave me. You are telling me that my backswing is very arm driven. I have a question for you. I tend to round my shoulders a bit in the set up, which allows me to reach the club with the arms feeling quite free and this is probably the reason they end up driving the backswing. When I try to have my back less rounded with my shoulders down and back, I tend to find that my arms get a bit stuck to the side of my torso. I read the arms should hang naturally but when they do I struggle to join my hands as my pectoral muscles get in the way. Where should the arms go, some say they should be on top of the chest, some say they should be by the side, some say that should lay on the junction of the arm pit and the pectoral muscle. My impression is that if the arms are more connected to the chest instead of handing freely, it will be easier to turn the shoulders without the arms taking over like I do. Thanks for your feedback. Best, Marc
November 3, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marc. You should have some awareness between your upper pectoral and upper bicep. They won't hang directly on top of the pectoral. You don't want to glue them to the body, but notice that there is a little connection. No problem for the review.
November 4, 2015
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Lance
Hey Craig I have been trying to setup more upright after my last swing review Aaron said I was too far from the ball and reaching/bending too much Couldn't agree more but would always seem like farther away felt relaxed So I stumbled on something about my grip I noticed my left wrist wanted to be partially cocked Now i have been trying to setup with it uncocked as far as possible and i am able to be more upright and closer to the ball Seems that I am swinging less around the body now Is this type of adjustment to my grip advisable? Thanks
October 16, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lance. You need a little wrist cock at setup. If you get too much ulnar deviation you will actually have the tendency to swing more around the body with wrist roll. The little set at setup helps the club work a little more vertical going back.
October 16, 2015
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Lance
Thanks Craig Perhaps I just had a little to much wrist cock at setup Do you concur that too much wrist cock at setup makes the distance to the ball greater? There appears to be some natural ulnar deviation toward the body in the left wrist as the hands/arms hang at setup without a club. The closer I am to the ball the easier it is to keep the weight on the heels when I hinge from the hips. Thanks again.
October 17, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lance. Usually with too much wrist cock at setup the player tends to overly hinge from the hips. Which could lead to excessive arm stretch in the future.
October 17, 2015
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Alejandro
Hello! Is there a video talking specifically about ball position from the body ? I mean far - close, not left right if you understand what I mean. In short, distance from the ball.
September 27, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alejandro. Ball position distance from the ball will be determined by the arms at address. When the arms are hanging correctly underneath the shoulder joints and through the elbow joints. That is the distance needed from the ball. You don't want to change that relationship.
September 28, 2015
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Alejandro
OK. Although that makes sense, longer clubs confuse me a little. For starters, not all the pros do the same with the driver. Some leave the arms hanging, but others (like Tiger, for instance, or even Jordan Spieth) you can see that the arms are a little bit forward. They are not hanging, "gravity parallel" (so to speak) as is the case with the shorter irons or sand wedge.
September 28, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alejandro. The Driver is a specialty club. Some pros do have the arms out a little more in front of them for space. You can have them a little more in front for comfort reasons if you would like. The key would be making sure you aren't in a straight line positioning from the elbow joint to the club head. You still need a little angle at address to help the wrist set the club up vertically.
September 28, 2015
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Alejandro
Actually... I feel a lot more comfortable hanging the arms. The only problem is that now after a couple of hours practice, I wounded my left palm. It's because I never use a glove. Now I need one... Will see how it goes. Thanks Craig!
September 28, 2015
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Justin
Hey Guys, question regarding shaft lean at address. Should every club have the same amount of shaft lean at address for stock shots. If so, how far forward do you recommend for irons and the driver. My driver has been pretty inconsistent lately and I feel like it may be due to my address position. Any help would be much appreciated. I can send in a new video of the driver FO if needed. Thanks!
September 27, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Justin. A review can always help. However, in the meantime. Take a look at Fixing Your Setup Video for proper shaft lean position with irons and woods. Then, the Driver Launch Angle Video to help with Driver Setup and Strike.
September 28, 2015
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Nguyen
Hi I see that only after rocking forward&back and shoulder shrug&depress then Chuck change the stance from NJA (hip socket over knees & ankles) to setup stance (2 inches outside NJA). When finding true balance, why do we keep the stance at NJA and not at the true setup stance?
September 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nguyen. It helps with getting properly centered and perfectly balanced. Then, when you expand to 2 inches outside NJA it helps you train to keep the pressure on the inside of the feet versus rolling to the outside.
September 9, 2015
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Brian
Where can I find the workout spreadsheet for the 5 Mins to the Perfect Setup ?
August 23, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Brian. If you click the Swing Reviews Tab. Go to Checkpoints for Practice. Select Setup.
August 24, 2015
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Brian
Thanks Craig
August 24, 2015
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Tyler
The question I have is this, when "staying in the box" does that mean I need to flex these muscles....i.e. back and abs?
August 13, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tyler. The box muscles need to be engaged, but not flexed to max capacity.
August 14, 2015
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Tyler
K thanks
August 14, 2015
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Howard
When I "get in the box", from my elbows up to my shoulders, my arms feel pinned to my sides. After my entire life of playing from the "rectangle" maybe it should feel that way but Chuck doesn't look that way in the video and it feels restricted and tight.
July 17, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Howard. You might be pulling down with the shoulder blades too hard. They should be retracted, but not pulled down so hard that you create a ton of tension.
July 17, 2015
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Howard
Thanks...I think you nailed it.
July 17, 2015
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Jarek
Ok so my question is around spine angle. Is it the same for every club? In the swing analysis portion of the website it looks as though chuck is standing more erect for the driver? Please clarify
June 28, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jarek. As the club gets longer the spine angle will tend to go a little up, but shouldn't go down.
June 29, 2015
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Luigi
What is the proper spine angle?
June 15, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Spine angle will be roughly in the high 40's to low 50's depending on body size.
June 16, 2015
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Luigi
How can I check the right spine angle my self? One Pro tells me I've to bend more the other sais to be mor upright.
June 16, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Luigi. You need to bend over enough that your arms hang down neutral from the shoulder joint. Proper Hinging from the Hips in this Section. 2 ways to check. You can use the self analysis swing viewer and draw lines yourself. Or, upload a swing to one of our instructors. We would be happy to check for you.
June 16, 2015
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Robert
What about the clubface at setup? i can't find any discussion here or elsewhere on the site. I "think" that the bottom edge of the club should be facing directly towards the target at setup. is that right?
June 14, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. That is correct.
June 15, 2015
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Preston
I am really frustrated that every time I try to do this, my left shoulder is still much higher than my right at address. I think the problem is I don't know whether to grip it with my left hand or my right hand first and where the club is suppose to lie vertical?? Is it suppose to be vertical in line with my left ear where proper ball postion is suppose to be? Or is it suppose to be vertical with my belly button. middle of my stance? i really wish he would have used a club doing this. I can get into this set up all day long without a one, but when the club comes into play, it looks much different. . Thanks for you help and clarification.
June 9, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Preston. (Right Handed Player). The left shoulder will be a little higher than the right. It won't be perfectly level. Most players will grip with their left hand first and then bring their right hand into position. The hands will be vertical. Hands not ahead with forward lean or behind with backwards lean. Vertical relatively pointing to the belly button. Take a look at the Golf Grip and Being Out of the Box in the Setup Advanced Section for more help. And/or upload your setup procedure to one of our instructors. We would be happy to find out where you could be going awry.
June 9, 2015
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Preston
Thanks! I will do that the next review I have and hopefully can pin point the culprit. It is quite a few inches higher according to what my playing partners say and what my golf coach at college has told me.
June 9, 2015
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Nguyen
Hi I see in the 9-3 transcript http://rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfbiomechanics/9-to-3-drill-golf-swing-drill the picture of Chuck at setup, where his center of left ankle, outside of left hip, and left shoulder are on a vertical red line, i.e 3 points are inline. I tred to bump my hip to reach the same as in the picture and looked like my shoulder turn is much better. But not sure if my understanding over the picture is correct. Pls help to clarify
April 10, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nguyen. At setup the line is going from the center of the ankle to just outside the hip and shoulder joint. They will line up directly when reaching impact. The Dustin Johnson Video Setup for Consistency will help describe the same positioning.
April 10, 2015
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Nguyen
Dear Guys, Why does the club need to be vertical at address? i.e please explain the benefit of this.
April 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nguyen. There are a lot of different reasons. Here are 2 main ones. 1) Address and Impact are two different animals. Your goal is to have a dynamic impact position. If you setup with too much forward shaft lean or hands ahead. You will only be returning back to address. 2) Its hard to initiate with rotation. The club likes to take off with momentum from arm swing versus shoulder pull.
April 8, 2015
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Nguyen
Dear Craig Please elaborate the 2nd as I still do not get it. Thank,
April 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
When the hands are too far behind the club it has to play catch up. Usually, requiring quicker wrist set versus gradual. One drags the handle back then club snatches back in sync. When the hands are too forward the lead shoulder tends to push the club head back because the arms are presented into a position where it makes the trail shoulder blade want to protract more thus requiring a bigger motion to get it engaged properly (down and in). When vertical the shoulder blades and arms are nice, balanced and neutral.
April 8, 2015
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Nguyen
Thank Craig, it makes sense to me now!
April 8, 2015
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Aaron
How does he get to 1,000 reps? I might be missing something, but by my count, there are 5 exercises, 10 reps, 3 sets, 5 days per week and 4 weeks (5 x 10 x 3 x 5 x 4 = 3,000).
April 2, 2015
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Aaron, If you are brand new to a movement pattern, then you could potentially learn the pattern in 1000 total reps. So, that is why that number was said. The designed plan is to get you to 3000-5000 total reps though. Sorry for any confusion.
April 3, 2015
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Ryan
I have a horrible lower back, hunched shoulders. Like I said in other comments, a pretty large guy that needs to work on my abs to get stability. My lower back is killing me doing these drills. Getting the hunch out of my back in order to eventually get shoulder rotation is putting a lot of strain. Is this common with people who have lower back issues, and do you have any advice on containing the pain somewhat (or am I doing it totally wrong and there shouldn't be lower back pain)
March 26, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Ryan, it's likely that you're putting too much stress on your body by tightening the muscles too much when you're trying to do this drill. Try to relax your muscles more. You're not exercising, it's just small movements to get yourself aligned. I am a large man myself. I weighed 497 lbs. when I first started working on my swing through the rotary swing. I'm down to 375 now, mostly just from working on my golf swing and playing golf a lot since last year. I had some strain in the lower back and upper back at first when I tried this drill. I used to have bad posture as well. However, I started using the golf posture, not the hip hinge obviously, in my everyday life and my posture has never been better, plus the hunch has gone away. I just make sure that I get some dynamic stretching in before I work on my game, it goes a long way in making me feel loose and relaxed so that I'm not tense during the drills. R.J.
March 27, 2015
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Ryan
Thanks so much R.J. What dynamic stretches do you suggest?
March 27, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Me personally? If you go to youtube and search dynamic stretching routine, there's a good one on there by Funk Roberts. Keep in mind, this is my own personal preference and does not reflect the beliefs of RST or their staff.
March 27, 2015
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Nguyen
Hi I am feeling that by keeping only the right upper arm touching the chest in the setup, it will be easier to keep my hand in line with my sternum in the takeaway. Is it correct? Do we need to keep both the upper left/right arms (tricepts) touching the upper chests in the setup?
March 23, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Nguyen. You want the arms resting in the upper chest/armpit area. Don't force or glue them to your sides. Maintaining that connection will help. Just don't create a lot of tension. Take a look at the Golf Grip and Being Out of the Box Video in this same section. It may help the understanding better.
March 23, 2015
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Roger (Certified RST Instructor)
Chris Tyler, Hey Chris, that back dated videos (1/6/15) of the drills was a type-o on my part when I submitted the videos over the weekend. You were correct in that I could not upload comments over the weekend. We are working primarily on posture/setup, hip bump/axis tilt. weight transfer to right foot, rotation and elevation. Elevation and rotation have been the primary focus. However in that process it had become obvious my drilling of setup and posture needed much more work so I basically went back to square one about two weeks ago on all facets of setup, but have continued to work on weight shift, rotation, and elevation as well all while staying in the box.
February 9, 2015
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Great! Thank you for the clarification Roger. I am about to start with your next review and we will make sure all of those things are in line.
February 10, 2015
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Randy
Great video! 2 Questions: 1) Is the reason for only doing this 5 days per week based on brain science i.e. we make better progress if we have a break? I'd be willing to do this every day if that would speed my ability to make this setup "unconsciously competent." 2) Would you recommend gradually speeding up this process as a way of "challenging" the brain and more closely simulating taking a setup position when on the range or on the course? Thanks.
January 18, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Randy, Yes and Yes! You seem very interested in his the mind works in conjunction with learning new skills. I would like to refer you to a book that does a great job of describing what you would like to know and that book is: The Talent Code by Daniel Coyle R.J.
January 18, 2015
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Randy
Thanks for the quick response, R.J. I was so excited by this site and Chuck's learning system that I bought and read The Talent Code right away. I think I'll reread it - very inspiring. And just to clarify . . . is your first "yes" referring to doing the setup everyday for quicker ingraining?
January 19, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Randy, If you did it everyday, you would learn quicker. However, passion and excitement plays a huge roll in this as well, hence a break can be beneficial every once in awhile. R.J.
January 19, 2015
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Jarek
Are we supposed to do this with feet set as we would while approaching the ball? Or is it supposed to be neutral stance feet under hip and we can worry about feet width later?
December 4, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Jarek, Place your feet 2" outside of Neutral Joint Alignment as you would if you were addressing the ball. R.J.
December 4, 2014
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Mike
I'm working the practice drills as suggested. These are great as I spend much of the week out of town away from the course and range. Is there a video that walks through how to sequence the pre-shot routine, including set-up, with the club in hand and ball in play? I know different videos have discussed important aspects of the set up individually, but how do I go through a process to get them all, every time. In other words, how do I sequence grip, ball position, stance, and posture ( which includes bending from the hips, staying in the box, axis tilt, head up, etc.) I'd like to follow a set routine in an order that makes sense. Many thanks.
November 21, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Mike, Your pre-shot routine can be anything that you'd like, preferably something that gets you focused solely on visualizing what your shot is going to do and much less about practice swings and waggles. I would suggest going down to the bottom of the site and clicking on golf instruction articles and reading about the mental game in those articles. A lot of that helps you to clear your mind prior to stepping up to the ball, which is essential. Aside from that, I go through the 5 minutes to the perfect golf setup with my club in my left hand as I would grip it in the address, then I go through my mental exercise as I setup to the ball (I have the setup mastered so I don't have to think about what I'm doing physically), then I put my right hand on the club when I do my hip bump and axis tilt. I take a couple looks down the fairway and visualize what my shot is going to do and then I do it. R.J.
November 21, 2014
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William
Golf for me at one time used to be so simple - do the most important fundamentals I.E. posture, balance, grip etc. become 'loose' after years of playing and repeated drills have to be maintained? I was shocked to see my swing when I uploaded it for review!!!
November 9, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
William, By time you're done with the RST swing program, you're going to have a tour caliber golf swing and golf will be easy again. I can guarantee that. I'm glad to see that you're starting from the beginning with the setup as well. Many of our students like to jump around and they don't have as much success as they could if they started from the beginning and worked their way up. R.J.
November 10, 2014
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William
On top of the drills that have already been recommended to me, this is cool...
November 9, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
William, I am glad that you enjoy the video! Good luck with your progression. R.J.
November 10, 2014
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Mike
Should these setup exercises by done on any particular surface (flat? grass? carpet?) and should shoes be worn while working on the exercises?
October 6, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Preferably, any flat surface will do. You can wear whatever shoe you would like.
October 6, 2014
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Charlie
Hi, After getting into the proper setup now, I am beginning to think my Ping's of 12 years are not fitted correctly! My hands are a bit lower to the ground now and the only way I can sole the club is to choke up or stand more erect which seems to take me out of proper setup. Is there any quick check I can apply to make sure my clubs are fitted correctly to me? -Charlie
September 27, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charlie. If you are having to change the grip location and/or spine angle to sole the club. They might be too long. It should be fairly easy with correct hand location to get the club sitting correctly.
September 27, 2014
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Arnie
One thing I don't think I saw covered in any of the Setup videos (if I missed it, my apologies), is a check point regarding where the butt of the club ends up once you've completed the setup. In a couple of videos from other companies I was told that the butt of every club should point at my belly button; that this is consistent with the golf swing being a "body" swing, and helps prevent it becoming an arms-only swing. Whether or not this is correct, by pointing the butt of the club at my belly button after set up, I didn't have to worry about wondering if I was pressing the butt forward to much, or if it was behind the ball when it shouldn't be. Given that I have been prone to pressing my hands forward to much, is there a check point for where the hands should be relative to ball position?
September 7, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Arnel. The club should be vertical at address. The hands not pressed too forward, or held behind the ball. If the arms are hanging correctly in the Neutral Joint Alignment. All you need to is bring them together and grip the club properly. Take a look at the Golf Grip and Being Out of the Box Video in the Advanced Setup Section. Chuck doesn't go into an exact point or target, but it will help you with the visual of where the arms should be hanging.
September 7, 2014
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Ron
At the end of the video is a white on black page that list the practice points and reps. Is there a place to download and print these list?
September 4, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ron. Copy and paste this list to word, email, notepad, etc.. and print it out. Each Set - 5 reps eyes open, 5 reps eyes closed 1. Rock Forward, Rock Back 2. Shrug Shoulders, Depress Shoulders 3. Hinge from the Hip 4. Lean Inside the Ankles, Rock Forward, Rock Back 5. Hip Bump/Axis Tilt Repeat 2 More Times Do this 5 Days per week = 1000 repetitions in 1 month. In one month, you will setup like this by default.
September 5, 2014
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Matt
From what I've seen so far, you recommend mastering each lesson before moving on to the next. Are you saying that we should spend a month on the setup before moving on?
November 22, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Matt, You should get 1,000 reps in before stacking something else on top of it. But when you move on to the next part, you should continue to do what you were doing before as well so that you're building more reps on top of it. So, 200 reps a day, 5 days a week, take two days off, that's 1,000 reps in a week. Here is a typical lesson structure that I do when I train golfers in person. Week 1 - 1,000 reps of stance (200 x 5) Week 2 - 1,000 reps of stance [Total of 2,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of weight shift (200 x 5) Week 3 - 1,000 reps of stance [Total of 3,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of weight shift [Total of 2,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of takeaway (200 x 5) Week 4 - 1,000 reps of stance [Total of 4,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of weight shift [Total of 3,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of takeaway [Total of 2,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of backswing (200 x 5) Week 5 - 1,000 reps of stance [Total of 5,000] (200 x 5) *Mastered* 1,000 reps of weight transfer [Total of 4,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of takeaway [Total of 3,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of backswing [Total of 2,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of downswing (200 x 5) Week 6 - Setup Mastered 1,000 reps of weight shift [Total of 5,000] (200 x 5) *Mastered* 1,000 reps of takeaway [Total of 4,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of backswing [Total of 3,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of downswing [Total of 2,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of follow through (200 x 5) Week 7 - Setup mastered Weight transfer mastered 1,000 reps of takeaway [Total of 5,000] (200 x 5) *Mastered* 1,000 reps of backswing [Total of 4,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of downswing [Total of 3,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of follow through [Total of 2,000] (200 x 5) Week 8 - Setup mastered Weight transfer mastered Takeaway mastered 1,000 reps of backswing [Total of 5,000] (200 x 5) *Mastered* 1,000 reps of downswing [Total of 4,000] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of follow through [Total of 3,000] (200 x 5) Week 9 - Setup mastered Weight transfer mastered Takeaway mastered Backswing mastered 1,000 reps of downswing [Total of 5,000 reps] (200 x 5) 1,000 reps of follow through [Total of 5,000 reps] (200 x 5) Week 10 - Setup mastered Weight transfer mastered Takeaway mastered Backswing mastered Downswing mastered 1,000 reps of follow through [Total of 5,000] (200 x 5) Week 11 (for as long as you live) - setup mastered weight transfer mastered takeaway mastered backswing mastered downswing mastered follow through mastered And the best part about it, you're not doing 5,000 reps in week 5, you're still only doing 1,000 because in order to shift your weight, you need to get into your stance. In order to do your takeaway, you need to shift your weight and in order to do your backswing, you need to do your takeaway. And so on and so forth. So, if you do the drills properly and practice with a purpose and dedication, you'll be able to have a perfect golf swing in less than 3 months using the RST program and it's only about an hour a day (200 reps), 5 days a week for 11 weeks. Even better yet, some people will be mastering the skills around the 3,000 mark so they'll get done a couple weeks quicker, but if you do it for 11 weeks, and you do it right, you're guaranteed to have a perfect golf swing forever, barring very serious, non-golf related injury. I hope that answers your question as to what you might want to think about doing going forward. R.J.
November 22, 2014
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Tyler
when you say 200 reps per day for example with the setup drill, does that mean 200 reps of each of the 5 exercises in this one drill or 200 reps for the entire drill so 40 reps of each? Thanks
August 13, 2015
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Randy
What an awesome post!! Thanks for that comprehensive plan - I've seen nothing else like it on this site. In fact, I'd love to see a video done based on it. This site has wonderful videos but, unless I've missed it, there's nothing like what you've posted that shows how to stack step after step in such detail to make consistent progress. But I'm confused about the math: in your reply to Mike you write "Do this 5 Days per week = 1000 repetitions in 1 month" (this mirrors what's written at the end of Chuck's 5 Minutes to the Perfect Setup video). But in your reply to Matt you write "Week 1 - 1,000 reps of stance (200 x 5)." Also, by my count there are 5 parts to the setup drill each with 10 reps. Doing that 3 times (this comes from Chuck's video) = 150 reps. Doing that 5 days per week = 750 (not 1000). So do you recommend doing the whole sequence 4 times to get the 1000 reps? Or maybe stay with 3 times but do it every day (7 x 150 = 1050)? Thanks.
January 18, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Randy, If you look closely at the original response on this post, it was done by Craig. The only post that I have on this thread would be the post that you directly responded to. Craig and I have different ways of teaching the same lessons. Also, this breakdown that I gave you guys is how I train my students personally. It does not reflect the beliefs and methods of the other RST trainers; however, it does jive with the RST philosophy. My lesson plan is completely separate from anything else on the site and only my students would have the specific lesson plan of how to get to those 1000 weekly reps. Let us know if you need anything else. I will see what I can do about working on making a video to contribute to the site in regards to teaching you guys how to plan your workouts for success. R.J.
January 18, 2015
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Randy
I missed that. Thanks for the clarification.
January 19, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
You're welcome
January 19, 2015
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Matt
R.J. That's great. Thank you!
November 28, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Matt, You're welcome. R.J.
November 29, 2014
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Raymond
Today I completed my first week as a premium member and a week of working three times a day at setup. I think I finally got rid of the shoulder curve I had a problem with. I have worked on the balance in the feet before so that wasn't new but the rest needed a little work. The staying in the box practice did more for me as a whole. Look forword to the next week of weight shift added to the equation.
August 31, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Raymond. Great. Your body will thank you.
September 1, 2014
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Charlie
Where should the toes be pointing? I have tried: 1) both feet with toes pointing slightly out. 2) right foot perpendicular to target line and left foot with toes slightly open to line.
August 25, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
The toe line can be tricky. We would prefer perpendicular with both. But, if you would like the lead foot slightly open for looks wise it is ok.
August 25, 2014
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Stephen
Do you maintain the inward ankle roll for the entire swing and do the knees automatically roll in slightly when you roll the ankles in?
August 21, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
The knees should remain pretty stable. Try and feel more pressure, than a huge roll. Keep the awareness of staying inside the feet, rather than letting the weight rock to the outside.
August 21, 2014
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Stephen
Do you recommend hovering the club slightly above the ground at address? I find that doing so when I do the drills makes executing them a bit easier, I honestly haven't tried it while hitting balls yet. I tried it because I noticed sometimes the instructors will perform the examples with the club not resting on the ground and it seems to produce a smooth result.
August 17, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. I tend to hover my club as well, but Chuck grounds his. The only drawback to the hover is some players tend to get the arms swinging first. Keep good awareness on the body movements and make sure you don't fling the club back.
August 17, 2014
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Malcolm
I'm working on the drills and putting in the reps but I have noticed a soreness in my my knees am I doing something wrong or is this normal at first?
August 12, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Malcolm. Make sure you aren't bending too much. Just relax at the knees. Bending too much will engage the quads and put more stress on the knees.
August 12, 2014
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Marcin
Are there any follow-up videos that actually show you how you should address a ball with a club in your hand? The 5 minutes to the perfect set up video does everything without a club in the hand and you only have both hands together at the end after the "step 5 - hip bump" move. I went to the range to try to practice setting up with an actual ball and I found a lot of problems following the 5 step process. 1) it's tough to know how close to stand to the ball, 2) bending over from the standing position then relaxing the knees created problems for me getting the proper lie on my club, and 3) finding balance while bent over was problematic as I would often then be misaligned with the ball once balance was achieved (ball not lined up with the center of the face), and 4) once a club was in my hand, i found it very tough to keep my right elbow facing down unless my shoulders were slightly protracted i.e. they didn't feel like they were in the box. Also, i'm working on this at home every day, but if i'm also playing one round per week, what should i think about while i'm playing? do i keep this stuff in mind if it seems to be hurting my game?
August 12, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcin. The distance away from the ball is discovered by where the arms hang naturally at address. If the arms are hanging underneath the shoulder joints then the distance will be correct (typically butt end around the toes). The right elbow will be facing away from the body, not down. Take a look at the Golf Grip and Being Out of the Box Video (Advanced Setup Section). While playing focus on your practice swing. Work through the motions and hit. If you want to retain one or two swing thoughts while hitting that is ok. You have to remember that during the change you are creating new motor patterns and positions you aren't used too. Playing will give a mixed bag of results until the motions become permanent. Don't get too caught up in the exact way to walk into a shot. There are too many ways to skin this cat. I've had sports psychologist and teachers tell me tons of different ways to achieve setup before the shot. Left foot first, right foot first, club first, knees last, etc... Every tour player has his own method. You have to figure out what works for you to get in the correct positions. If stepping in with the right foot, then club alignment, stance, etc.. works for you. Then go with it. All we want is the ball, stance, weight, posture, and arms in the correct position. The cycle that helps you best achieve those. Run with it.
August 12, 2014
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Charlie
Hi - Not sure what you mean by "tilting the ankles in"? I can't separate slightly tilting the ankles in without the knees also tilting in. What is the purpose of this?
August 11, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Charlie. All you are trying to do is make sure that the pressure stays towards the inside of the foot, rather than the outside. No worries. Not an excessive movement. Trying to stay anchored to the ground and not roll beyond NJA.
August 11, 2014
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Marcin
how does one take this principal to the golf course. I've been doing this drill, and when i played yesterday, i felt a bit awkward addressing the ball. Is there a correct way to address the ball when you work these concepts into the game on the course?
August 9, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
The new setup will feel foreign on the golf course at first. You are used to doing it one way, now a different way. Just walk yourself through the motions. The particular method doesn't matter too much. Straight up, hinge, weight, stance, ball, then fire.
August 9, 2014
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Marcin
For step three, the bend phase of the perfect set up, i'm trying to understand getting in the box once your body is tilted over. where am i pulling my shoulders to get into the box? Do i pull them down along my body with my lats? Or do I try to "press my fingers into the ground", straight towards the ground? If i push them down with the "fingers into the ground" thought, then my shoulders round a bit, so that feels incorrect. what's the correct way to think about "getting into the box" when tilted over?
August 7, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcin. You should already be "in the box" before tilting over. If you are having trouble with the rounding and placement of the hands. Take a look at the Golf Grip and Being Out of the Box Video in the Advanced Setup Section and the Hinging from the Hips Video in the Setup Section. You don't need to feel max press at setup up. Relaxed retracted shoulders. You are using the lats to help retract the shoulders.
August 7, 2014
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Jerry
Having a problem with getting flat tilt forward at address. I am 76 and have had back pain starting from having a tumor resting on the nerves of my spinal chord. will stack and tilt help me . do you teach that ? I an trying to start with 60% of my weight on my from foot and increasing on downswing . My hands a slightly forward at set up. I tried dropping my shoulder vertically under my chin . is this a good idea ? How about the bent left leg and straightened right leg.? Is there a good reason for me to work on this or try elements certain elements which you can recommend . I have not worked on forward swing yet . But gather there is a shift forward which might be tricky to do for me . I do want to clear my hips . I was a 12 at Quaker ridge Golf club ,scarsdale N.Y. was rated 22 at the time and jim Mc Lean was the pro. This was when I was when I was young , Cancer stopped me for 5 years around 65 and I was on a cane. Was 35 after 7 holes sunday but butchered the last two. was one over par after 4 holes . Still have some of the old stuff but struggle. Love playing especially with low handicaps . Many thanks, Jerry
July 31, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Jerry. Sorry to hear about your issues with the tumor. We don't teach stack and till. If you prefer to have a little weight on the left. That's ok. But, not shifting only 1 inch into the right glute will sacrifice a lot of energy. It would be easier on the body to be neutral 50/50 at address. I would recommend our setup position. Its anatomically designed to line up the joints. To take unneeded stress out of the body on the golf swing. For the weight shift on the downswing. Its only a 3 inch shift forward. No more difficult than standing straight up and increase weight balance from one leg to another. Not a massive shift as it may seem like. You will have the opportunity to clear the hips. We recommend 30-40 degrees open at impact. I love to hear that you still have excitement for the game. I feel we have a lot to offer you to manage having an efficient pain free swing. One of the most important aspects is the shape of the swing. Take a look at the Re-Shaping Your Swing for Lag Video in the Introduction Section and the Wide- Narrow-Wide Video in Advanced Introduction Section. Both will help teach the overall look and feel of a great swing. Using a little more of physics to be the power source, rather than brute force. If you have the ability with a smart phone, ipad, camera, etc... Upload a swing to our review team. Tell them your issues. They can build you a swing that works for your physical capability versus against it.
July 31, 2014
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William
When you look at Adam Scott's swing, it appears that he is really on the balls of his feet. I know you utilize his swing as a model. Is he still in the box, if he is more on the balls of his feet?
July 1, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey William. We do use Adam Scott for many RST diagrams. However, there are things that Adam does that deviate slightly from RST. Adam is in the box. His setup and shoulders stay very connected throughout his move. The weight more on the balls of his feet does affect his efficiency at being stable though.
July 1, 2014
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Gary
It seems to me that finding your center of balance standing straight up would be much different than your center of balance with your body bent over from the hip joints at a 40 or 45 degree angle. pls give me your thoughts on this. Gary Chrismon
June 28, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
They balance will remain the same. Make sure when hinging from the hips you allow the glutes to drop back. Counter balancing. The body bends a little forward as the glutes "butt" drops back.
June 28, 2014
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David
What exactly is a waggle and do you recommend doing one? Is it covered in any of the videos?
June 18, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hogan came up with the term for waggle. Its a forward pressing motion to get the club swinging. A la "Jason Dufner". It was used to relieve tension at the start and a guide to preset the takeaway. We don't have any videos concerning the waggle because we steer away from it. It presets the golf to want to initiate too much motion with the hands off the ball. We want rotation to get the momentum of the club started.
June 18, 2014
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David
A quick question on the setup - when you address the ball right before you start the takeaway - do you rest the club (wedge, iron or hybrid) on the ground or do you hover it a little bit? Does the answer depend on whether the ball is teed up, on the fairway or in the rough? Thanks.
June 10, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
It depends. Chuck sets the club on the ground, as I like to hover. However, the hover position may lead to snatching the club back with the hands first, so keen awareness is needed to make sure the movement off the ball is done correctly. In deep rough the hover is necessary to keep the club from getting caught going back. The important issue is that the body takes the club back, not just the hands. If you can achieve the proper body movements the hover won't inhibit your progress. Nevertheless, if you like to get handsy. Try setting the club on the ground.
June 10, 2014
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Alberto
Regarding knee flexion in your setup, how much should your knees be bent? When I set up, I have my knees just out of lockout. Is this correct?
June 6, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Slightly relaxed from being locked out. Too much would tend to overly engage the quads. And not enough wouldn't allow for proper glute stabilization.
June 6, 2014
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Thomas
When setting up for a fade or a draw you did not mention which way the clubface should be aimed. I would assume it needs to be aimed directly at the target. Correct?
May 29, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
The club face needs to be aimed at the starting line (where you want the ball to start) and then work on the release of the club to fit the shape desired.
May 29, 2014
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Greg
I'm working on the drills but still have trouble with a bent left arm at address. Instead of a straight left arm that extends through the shaft on camera, my left arm is in a bent reverse C position. Is this caused when the elbows point outward at address instead of at the hip bones? Need some help with better left arm at setup. Thanks.
May 12, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
You need to check your grip to make sure that is correct. We have a how to video on that in the program setup section. Then make sure that the arms are hanging off the shoulder line in good posture and grip the club as outlined in that video. That should correct your problem and if not, then report back and we will take a look at it.
May 12, 2014
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Marc
Hello hope all is well, I have been doing this video for about 27 days now to be exact, instead of 5 reps of eyes open & closed, I have been doing 10&10 3 sets of each so basically doubling it. In the video it says 1 month set up will be default, should I continue to drill it past the month or move one to the next? Thanks
May 6, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Mark, sounds like you are putting some good work in. You will know you hit the proper amount of reps needed when you can perform the setup stuff without having to think about it any longer. Keep a close eye on it as you stack the next piece in and make sure there is no breakdown or you may need to revisit video and keep drilling.
May 7, 2014
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Boris (Certified RST Instructor)
I didn't see this addressed anywhere else, but how does club length and lie angle affect the setup? I ask this because when I was fitted for the clubs that I currently use, it was determined that I needed clubs that were a 1/2" over standard and 1 degree upright. As I have applied the principles that I am seeing in this video, the toe of the club is in the air (maybe that is suppose to be the case). Because the rotary swing is more around with than upright, should I have my clubs adjusted to reflect my new swing dynamics?
April 24, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
You never want to adjust your setup to accommodate the clubs. You need to the clubs to fit your setup so you may need to go revisit the fitter and see if there is any possible changes needed.
April 24, 2014
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brad
Does the hip bump/axis tilt put slightly more weight onto forward foot? I feel weight going from 50-50 to 60-40 with more weight on left side for righties. This seems like it may make it harder to get weight onto back foot in backswing.
April 22, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
You may feel a slight variance in weight but only slight. The bump should have the trailing shoulder fall a bit to counterbalance the weight. The shift of the hips during the takeaway is critical to make sure that you load the trailing leg properly. This shift actually causes just a fraction of tilt to be lost along with feeling 80% or more in the trail side. Hope that helps.
April 24, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
With a driver, I know it's OK to have a little wider stance than other stock shots. Will we have the same posture and general degrees of body tilting forward? Will the hands still be under the chin from DTL? Seems due to the longer shaft, the toe of the club willbe pointing up more at setup? If that'sright, will that be corrected automatically coming into impact? Any videos referencing driver positions specifically?
April 21, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
We have a video on the site that deals with driver setup adjustments as well as the bomb your driver series. Here is the adjustments video link. http://www.rotaryswing.com/videos/full-swing-advanced/setup/driver-setup-adjustments
April 21, 2014
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Terrance
Thanks lots to think about..
April 13, 2014

5 Minutes to the Perfect Golf Setup may not seem sexy or glamorous, but few things have a bigger impact on your golf swing than your setup position. 

Golf Setup and Posture

Now it's time for the Five Minutes to the Perfect Golf Setup video. All we're going to do in this is go through what we've already talked about, but we're going to do it in a sequence that's going to allow you to setup to the golf ball perfectly every time, but more importantly, allow you to drill this over and over and over again so that when you're done, after you've gone through the videos of doing this repetitively for 15 minutes getting the repetitions in that you need, you're not going to know any other way to set up, and that's the goal. In this, we're going to talk about the actual sequence, and we're actually going to go through it in five minutes.

                First things first, with your eyes open, you're going sway forward, rock back onto your heels. You're going to do this five times with your eyes open at first. Rock forward. You're going to do this with me. Rock back five times. Now after your fifth one, do this with your eyes closed. We're going to rock forward, eyes closed, rock back, rock forward again, rock back. That's twice. Three more times. What you're trying to do is feel your heels here, feel your toes, feel the distribution of weight. In the last one, settle into balance. You should notice that you settled in slightly over your ankles. You should feel nice and relaxed at this point.

                Now what we're going to do is we're going to add getting in the box. All you're going to do five times, you're going to shrug your shoulders up to your ears, feel all the muscles in your neck tighten up, pull your shoulders down, five times. What you're trying to do each time is get a feeling or an awareness of these muscles that you may not have even been aware that you had. We're trying to activate those muscles in your back so that you can start to feel when it's wrong and when it's right. Same thing with your eyes closed, we're going to do five repetitions, getting those shoulder blades moving, feeling your back muscles engage, starting to activate those core muscles. Make sure your belly is pulled in, and that's 10 reps that you just did. Now you should start to feel that your back ... You start to feel that your muscles are engaged.

                Now we're going to hinge forward from the hip. What we're going to do here is let our weight drop slightly back under our heels, relax our knees, let our arms hang down, staying in the box. Do that again. You're going to bow forward, let your weight drop back, pay attention to where your weight goes on your feet, relax your knees, stay in the box, let your arms hang forward. Same thing. Bow forward, hinge from the hips, relax the knees, let the arms hang down, stay in the box. Couple more times. You're going to bow forward, relax the knees, let the arms hang. Now in this last one, make sure that you can feel everything.

                The next one, we're going to actually close our eyes. It's very important that you start to pay attention to where your weight is. You may have to do it a little bit more slowly at first. Let's do it again. Eyes closed, hinge forward, let your hips drop back behind you so that your weight settles in over your ankles, relax your knees, let your arms hang. We're not adding anything else at this point. We're just doing it with our eyes closed so we can feel where the weight is. Let the arms hang, good balance. One more. Make sure you can feel this.

                Now stay in your golf posture, and now what I want you to do is roll your ankles slightly to the inside, not your knees. Roll your ankles slightly to the inside. You're in good posture. Now rock forward onto your toes and rock back. You should find that if you were probably out on your toes, which a lot of us will be just through bad habits, that as you do this you're going to start to find, "Oh, that's where I feel relaxed. That's where I feel balanced and athletic." Now same thing. You're going to do five repetitions with your eyes closed so that your mind starts to activate the kinesthetic awareness, the feeling of where balance is. When you do it with your eyes closed, it's really easy to feel when you're off balance in either direction. Particularly, a lot of golfers get out on their toes.

                Now we're in good posture. We're in the box. Everything's set up well, but now my hands, I can't get my hands on the golf club, so now what I'm going to do is add the little bit of hip bump with a little bit of axis tilt. You'll notice that my hands are going to change just slightly. It's going to allow me to get my right hand on the club just a little bit better and get me in a little bit better position at setup. A little bit of hip bump, a little bit of axis tilt, same thing, five times with your eyes open. Now five times with your eyes closed. Just add a little bit of bump. You'll notice a little bit more weight set into your left hip, and get into a good posture there.

                In five minutes, you've gone through a golf setup routine that's going to allow you to get set up perfectly every single time and all you want to do is repeat these drills and the following repetitions that you see on your screen. It's going to take you about 15 minutes to go through the whole thing, but if you do this, your body's going to start to become aware and your brain is going to start to become aware of what it's going to take to build the repetitions in there of activating those muscles so that you set up perfectly every single time, and that's going to allow you to get into a great setup position every time and give you a much better headstart to the golf swing. 

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