Speaker 1:
Hey, how are you man? Doing well how's practice. I have been practicing. Okay. I'm at hit a lot of balls, take a lot of swings. I've got my mirror set up, I video. So the last thing we're working on, which is kind of still an issue and I've got, I've got 25 years of muscle memory of lifting my arms up high in the backswing, kind of like Davis love. So I've been working on trying to not move my arm, turn my shoulders and leave my arm down. And what I found with my high hand swing, because I never really used to have much risk set at the top because of the way I drive my hips and pull the club down. If I set my risk too much, it would, it wouldn't release a ball. So I hit it. So I kind of discovered that I don't set my wrists through this process.
Speaker 1:
And so that was one of the things I kind of realized that I went back to the dead drill and, you know, saw with the club upside down. You know, my club was kind of pointing straight out and yours was straight in a perpendicular to your, to your arm. I'm like, oh, that's a problem. I don't, I don't set my wrist. So I kinda was working on that. And I, since I did that, I finally got a little bit of speed back. So I've been trying to coordinate that, but I'm still I'm still struggling with the high hands, like supplemental to keep working on a little bit. Maybe we can come up with some ideas of how to tame my arms a little bit. Yeah, for sure. And I think I'm doing a better job of getting the club to drop down straight as opposed to kind of, you know, shoulder leaning, pulling the club down. I think I'm improving there. It may not be quite perfect just yet. It's getting there. I guess I'm basically just looking for a little checkup and see see what you think.
Speaker 2:
Yeah. So just real quick, as far as the arms go, when you're used to swinging your arms a lot and really high, and then learning how to kind of time all that, which is what you mentioned, you said, and you nailed it, right. If your arms are really high, then you've got a lot of a leg drive. Then having a lot of risks along with that is a recipe for disaster, right? Cause then you won't release. It's so easy to get it out in front of it. So the issue with people who have a big high arms and like Davis love and old school, Jack Nicholas stuff. When, when you do that, you have to put a lot of pieces together to balance that out. And it's not necessarily bad or, I mean, obviously Nicholas and lover are phenomenal ball crackers, right? Of course. But the issue is that for the typical average golfer who doesn't practice and play 5,000 balls a week, you know, to move that timing, it becomes so much easier to minimize the arm movement because at the end of the day, if you, it doesn't matter who you think is the best golfer, a golf instructor or teaching method or whatever in the world, the arms are simply the things that create the greatest amount of variables.
Speaker 2:
You know, you can do so much with your arms, your wrists. They can spin all over the place. There's so much that can go into that. And so when you start understanding, okay, I know that I don't have the time to groove this timing thing going on with my arms. And I want to minimize the arm movement. Then you have to understand that certain things will feel radically different in your swing as you go to more of a body driven swing. And that's what you see more of the modern player, right? Like everybody on the younger guys, they all do this stuff. You know, all of the top ball strikers on the tour typically are far more body or doing. When we say body, a lot of people will kind of interpret that to be upper body. And it's really your lower body when you're talking about.
Speaker 2:
And when you get that right, then your arms truly don't really have to move. I mean, they move like this much. And we get that. You, you take out all of the speed that you were getting from your arms, but you have to replace it. And because you swing really, really fast, and you're used to doing that with your arms, that's going to be a little bit of a mental block to be like, gosh, my arms are feeling like they're not moving at all. Like it's not just that they're moving slow. It's that they're not moving is what it will feel like to you. And then your hips have to work correctly in order to replace that speed and maintain angles and all of those things. So that's probably that little transition period that you're going through. Everybody who's big. I used to swing very high arms myself and get pretty disconnected.
Speaker 2:
And when I hit a lot of balls, I hit the ball miles and miles and miles, but it was just that it required so much maintenance for me to get the timing and the tempo and rhythm down. And I go to the range every day, like, okay, we're rounding off golf. I need, I needed 45 minutes to hit balls. And now I need three minutes to hit balls and I can go out and still shoot the same score, but it feels very different. It feels slower. And I really have to concentrate on just my hips. So when those work, then my arms don't have to. So just as a understanding, like the normal progression, as you're making a big leap, a big transition from being very fast, high arms, what feels powerful is going to feel very different. And you just have to kind of get low that for the interim period, it's going to feel slow. It's going to feel like there's no power to at first until you learn how to replace it. So it makes sense. It does. Okay. I'll go ahead.
Speaker 1:
I've been using the, you know, it's nice to have launched Monarch side. I can take one of my old swings and okay. There was my speed and there's my club head speed or my ball speed and try my lower arms. And I'm close. I'm a little bit slower, but you know, I've had some that, you know, approach my original ball speed. So I know it'll get there. I'm just I'm in kind of the, a gully where it's it's not there all the time.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, for sure. And that's normal. Not only because you're making a change, you don't quite know how to replace it, to get the speed from the right places. But also because when you're making, what is your transition swings? You're moving to, that's all done at a conscious level of thinking and that's just slow. I mean, it just is your old swing is all done subconscious, right? Your brain is like hockey, right? If I told you how to walk and he said, okay, I need you to change the way that you walk. And I want you to think through every single move. Okay. The first thing I do is contract your hip flexor to keep this leg soft though. Cause it's got a swing. You don't want it to be tight. And you got to pick your toe up because you got to have a heel strike.
Speaker 2:
And that's, it seems ridiculous, right? Teach somebody how to walk is insane, but we do it every day. But if you had to change the way that you walk, you would have to go through the mental process of, okay, this group needs to contract while this one relaxes. So this life can extend and we'd look insane. But that's what happens in the golf swing. When you make a big radical change, it's like thinking through how to write your signature, thinking through how to walk, how to feed yourself. But as you keep doing it, as you see you, you, I mean, you're already close to your old ball. Speeds is, is great. But you will, you will get there. You just have to work through this process and there's just no way around that. Right. Cool. All right. Let me, let me see what's going on with where you're at now. I'm going to video it or record it. So you'd be okay. Yeah. Two sec. Yep. Yeah. I can see a five there, right? Yeah. Whenever you're ready. Okay. Let's try it again. All right. All right. Let's take a look. Okay.
Speaker 1:
We'll go to the second one here. That was pretty high too. It used
Speaker 2:
To be. Yeah, that's not bad there. You can see your right shoulder starting to elevate here. Like the actual shoulder was kind of shrugging up toward your ear a little bit and that's getting this arm disconnected. So one of the things that we're going to focus on today is understanding how to keep this connected. And what you're really going to feel is this bicep muscle, the upper part of your bicep, upper of your pecker touching the whole time. And you'll feel as soon as you start to shrug that shoulder. Yeah. Like you can literally stick your finger in there or tuck your shirt in there or a glove or what have you, what will work. But that's what you're going to feel as we get your arms a little bit more under control.
Speaker 2:
Yeah. I could see that. Then you get, see direct shoulders is elevated there. Do you see how watch your right shoulder? You see that that's a right shoulder dye. That's pushing with the right shoulder and that's, what's getting you cease. Gotcha. Yeah. So we're super steep there. A lot of right shoulder and pretty open there with it. So let me check one more thing with it. Okay. So now watch, this is, this is the game changer for you right here. So what I want you to do is watch where my, where the mouse cursor is. So going back, it looks great. You can see that you move past the tush line a little bit where you started address, right? Your butt's a little bit behind the mouse. But then now watch when you have that right side drive with that right shoulder. Look what happens to your hip line. Yeah. [inaudible]
Speaker 2:
Now look at that. We've lost three or four inches, which makes it more upright. Now you can see that you're nowhere near that. Touchline that address right now, part of this. And that's what makes this lower part of your spine really upright. And this has got to lead to some big blocks and all kinds of stuff. But at set up, we need to do a little adjustment there first. You're you're a little bit too far back. Your hips need to come forward a little bit at address. So you're going to feel more forward on your foot at set up. This will give you the ability to move back into the ankle. And then what we're going to do is, is changed the whole transition move. Because right now it's right shoulder drive, you're going to get left. Hip drive is what, what we're going to change.
Speaker 2:
And that's going to be the piece where you start to be able to replace your arm movement. Because if the hips don't turn, something else has to move fast to bring that club down. And right now, as I showed you, you went to the top of your right shoulder, kind of goes like this, right. Actually up and forward. And that's what gets the shaft steep. And that's why, you know, if you don't do something with the bottom, you're going to move the, lose the ball. You're either going to pull it. If you come down steep with a shut face or you're going to tend to start blocking it, when you really go after it with the longer clubs, because your spine becomes up, right. And then that changes your path. You can't release the club. And so you're struggling with that two ways. So, so long story short, here's what we've got to do first, as far as your arms go to learn, to stop moving them.
Speaker 2:
Imagine that you stuck a Bolton right here, just beneath your shoulder socket. It's going right through the bicep, the top part of your bicep in your chest. Okay. And that goes back. You can, you, you can't stick your finger in there. Now this is a little too restrictive at first, but this will be a little bit of an overcorrection. Another way to kind of give you a reminder. You can stick your server or take a golf glove, something small on your arm. And now as I go back, I'm just moving that golf club back. But if I lift my arm up, it's going to fall. Okay. As you get comfortable with this, I don't want you to feel like you're trying to smash this against your chest. Right? It's just there as a reminder to feel like, okay, when I feel my arm come away and I don't feel this touching anymore, I'm starting to recognize when my arm is Ella, where my shoulder is elevated like this right shoulder elevates.
Speaker 2:
That's going to pick that arm. That's why you saw that gap there. Okay. So that's the first thing. Second thing more importantly, you're going to bring your hips forward a little bit and address. And this is going to allow you to move this heel or move your hip back slightly like you are, but starting from a further forward position, it's going to make it a lot easier for your hips to move your, left it, to move in the down swing. Instead of pushing forward into the wall where you lose your posture. So what's going to do first is start thinking about loading up this right hip so that you can turn the left hip. You're going to use both of you. Both sides are going to help you turn with the main thing you're going to focus on. First is this loading up into this right hip so that you feel once you start before the club starts to move, as you start in the transition, the first thing you're going to do is sit into this left side and turn the belt buckle.
Speaker 2:
And you're turning the belt buckle, but moving the left hip back. So we're going to move into deeper than where your right hip as it is at the top of your back swing, your left hip is going to go, at least that far back right now, it's going in like four inches. So this is going to feel radically different. If you have something back behind you like a chair that you can sit, have height, a golf bag, anything like that, that we can just kind of work on bumping our head. It's going to help a lot.
Speaker 2:
So ideally, we're going to have something taller. Maybe that fan in the background would be better because you need some about height. Okay? All right. So as you set up your right hip, you both, both butt cheeks should not be touching the fan. You should build a stick your hand back there. That's about how far back they're going to move during the back swing. So wait, wait comes a little more forward. Did you offer that fan? So then the first move is moving into that fan, your right butt cheek is going to touch it. You're going to load that right leg. You have your arms don't really have to move. Then now the left hip is the important part. Yeah, there you go. So the left hip needs to be touching the fan. And as you post up, get your weight off of that right side. There you go. Right here. There you go.
Speaker 2:
Right now. You see how your left butt is kind of like wanting to come up in the air a little bit so that when that happens, this, this is what happens when you're too far back, it's set up. Right? So let me exaggerate this. So it's easy to see. Well, let's just say a little too far back with my butt. Let go back. Cause feels really awkward. All right. That's up in the air and I'm having to stick my butt way back there as I stand a little bit taller than my hips, move into the ball a little bit more to address. Now, as I post up my legs just nice and straight, yours was like this, your butt's too far back and address. That makes sense.
Speaker 2:
Yeah. So let your hips come forward. So right there is great, but now you're probably like four inches away from the fans. You'd have to scoot back a little bit. Scoot your feedback. There you go. Perfect. Now left hip. There you go. Now do that without turning your shoulders, just focus on your hip, turn, shift your weight to the left. So you're just turning. You've also got to shift to the left while you're doing this. There you go. Make sure your left cheek is touching the fan closer there. Yeah. If you feel like you got to kind of hyperextend your leg and like push your leg back at an angle, then you just need to scoot your whole butt and your whole body closer to the fan. It's set up. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right. Hand touches it. Shift first shift in the left. There you go. There we go. Now we're talking. All right. Let's take a quick look at that. And then we're going to start looking at how to do this powerfully.
Speaker 1:
I watched the video. I think you it last night covering this very topic.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, exactly. This was a, it's a really common, it's a really common problem. And so I was trying to think of a way, like how do I get people to really understand this and be able to do this and hit balls and figure out the whole fill. The whole thing
Speaker 1:
Is just kind of camps. They don't. We find the, a tiger squat to square video, confusing, whatever that's worth.
Speaker 2:
No, I appreciate the feedback. And this is, this is a way that to understand how to do that. Right. You know, so right here, it looks good there. Now you're maintaining your posture much, much better. Right now. You're still hung back on that right side, which we're going to talk about in just a second, but now at least our posture is maintained. Now your shoulders don't need to be open here. That's going to be important. You're used to driving hard with that right shoulder, right? So that's part of how you get your speed. But at least we have the angles starting out right now we catch is if we were to do this fast with speed, you would drive your right shoulder and you would stand out. So now we gotta talk about how to do this. It's one thing to make it look right.
Speaker 2:
And that's the starting point. The starting point is like, okay, I need it to at least look like I'm doing this and okay. Maybe it doesn't feel exactly right now. How do you do that? So that it makes sense athletically. Cause that's really, this is a power move. This is about understanding where your power is really going to come from. So the first key, I guess, again, if you're too far back, you're going to find that you have to really kind of push back and your foot's way up in the air. So make sure that you get comfortable standing a little taller than the legs and your hips a little more forward. You just have a little space here. Now what I'm doing is loading back very much like a baseball player. It's not a lot of times golfers. We get stuck in this idea of just rotating and that's kind of what you did in the downswing.
Speaker 2:
Just do this in your turn, but that's not powerful. Right? So how would you do a powerful, and that's what I want you to think about. I want you to really think about loading your legs. So if I'm doing this from base on what I'm really doing is loading into this leg. Not so much trying to turn my hips. Yes, of course my hips turn. Right. But if I was a baseball player, I into it almost like I'm going to drive, jump off to go the other way, because that drive is going to help me turn my hips faster. They don't have to go wicked fast. Right. And that's a, that's a common misnomer. And if your hips go really fast, can you swing really fast? Well, if everything is going fast and the timing is right. Yes. Like Justin Thomas is a good example. I mean, he fired his hips through, but that can be super stressful on your back because you can take this right side push and really speed up and end up in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2:
Okay. You don't need to do it that way. What you really need to think about is now your right shoulder goes, and that does move the club fast. But it also creates that steep swing plane that you have a little over the top bit. So instead of thinking about, you know, think about how fast this goes. This just has to go that fast instead more or less, right? So it's not, doesn't have to go under million miles an hour, but it does have to move in front of this in order to move this. And that's the trick right now. You're actively moving the shoulder. And right now the show, we want the shoulders to get moved by the hips. And if we're moving our whole torso, all this mass, then the legs have got to really work. It can't be this kind of soft lackadaisical hip is it's going to be loaded. So it makes sense. Yep. So load into it. It's sitting this way, not just trying to turn your hips and spin this, it's loading into it. So you really feel as good and that moves the hip back. Right? I'm doing it this way so that I can really dry. Now once I have that hip load, yeah, there you go. There you go.
Speaker 2:
So once we have that load, it'll feel completely different versus just sitting there and trying to turn your hips. Think about loading into that right. Hip, like a baseball player. Then the left hip is the next critical piece. So getting the right hip will be really easy right there. You started to feel something different right there. Right? So that part is easy. The hard part initially is once this is loaded, it's understanding don't just drive your hip forward this way. That's obviously not gonna do any good this left hip after first simultaneously sit into it while turning the hip.
Speaker 2:
Yeah. So a way to think about this, if you were to look at it from an unusual angle that most people don't look at their golf swings on. If you look at it from up the line, here's what it actually looks like when you're swinging. So I'm here. You can see I've got, let's call it 70 degree angle in my knee right now, as I shift forward and I sit into this left hip, what do you notice in the angle of my knee? Does it move much? It hasn't changed right now. If I just sit here and try and spin my hips, this angle goes away right away. There's nothing left for me to post up with. That's what people make common mistake. They just start trying to turn thinking. They just in their hips, your hips turn. Absolutely. But it's more that you're loading and using the glutes rather than trying to spin your hips. So when you see it from this angle, you can see I'm loaded into my right hip. It's fully left. And as I sit in this left side, I really feel as fully load shoulders, sit, use your hip, sit into it.
Speaker 2:
So you will feel as you're doing this, the left hip gets all your percent activated in your right foot should have way less weight on it. Cause you're really sitting into it. And as you're doing that, now that this glute is activated, you begin to push the hip further back. And that's how you start to touch that fan in the background. Don't turn your shoulders, overlaps your shoulders. Cool. Yeah, let's go from that angle set into it. There you go. Nice. All right. Take a look at that. Really? Really good. Yeah. Let me get over here to the end where you post it up.
Speaker 3:
Okay.
Speaker 2:
So backswing, if we kind of use something back here in the background, you can use kind of this white thing, whatever it is, you're maintaining. That's your start line. Your left knee is still flexed here. Right? So long as that left me is flex. And you're putting weight on there that you're going to fill that left glute. It's going to be awake. You know, you should really, really feel that left glute. And now watch as you move the hips back, look how much further you moved your hip back. You see the difference. So now you've actually moved your left hip. It doesn't look strange at all, right? It's not like your left leg is angled back. Like it was earlier in your way, back with your toes, lifting up in the air, right? Activating the right muscles by activating the glute. You're letting your right hip in the backswing was like right here, at least several inches further over.
Speaker 2:
And now it's way back here and you've maintained your posture. That's how you actually increase your spine angle and the announcement and stop coming out of your posture. And now you can see and how much more muscle activation you're getting from here than what you're used to. And when you do this and you fire that right arm, this stuff is just taking a nap, man. It's not working. And that's why you're losing that tush line. And that's why, you know, your normal swing, your hips are going away from that line so much. Now that you can feel your glutes are trying to really do what you're really using your hips for, from power in the swing, that will help you make that transition of, okay, I guess my arms don't have to do so much and my shoulders don't have to do so much, but this has to do a lot. And that's that flip, but you have to make, but this is how you get there. And this, this drill will help you feel that as you start to think about it, not in terms of physicians and angles and technique, and you start thinking about muscle and athletic and power. That's really what the point of this drill is that as I'm going to drive and really use my hips for tower, does that make sense?
Speaker 2:
So that's going to be so hopefully that makes the tiger squats real. The whole point of that is, is this right? But I did that clam shell drill the chair, drill to help you see how to really feel it and experience it so that it's not like if I kept seeing people do this, right, right. That doesn't do anything. And that's just my fault for not explaining it better. So, you know, that is technically a squat, but that's not really what we're trying to do. The fact is that my hip is going back and that unweight this bullet and that makes this angle look like I'm squatting in my knee, but I really have hardly any way here at all. I'm on my left. And then at the end, if I could use that right side, if I want to help speed those hips up a little bit more. But, but it's, it's, it's understanding that little nuance of sitting into that left side and to activate that glute and then driving that hit back. And the whole time you're doing this, your hips are turning and math was moving your shoulders back down to impact. Okay. Makes sense. So let's do a few with your rear of butt up by the fan and start to feel that for yourself.
Speaker 2:
Yeah. Nice. Your shoulders are way more closed. You're using your hips to move your shoulders finally.
Speaker 3:
Make
Speaker 2:
Sure you sit into that left side, get an almost completely unweight that right foot at first, your left heel, your left, the left foot and the toes don't need to come up in the air if they do. You need the set up closer to the fan. That address right now. Yeah. There you go. Probably even more. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Nice looking good dude. Really good. You're shifting a lot better to the left now. Good way better. Hi. All right. Let me explain one more thing to you that you're going to see when you go to start hitting balls dependency, you had high arm, high arms and fast arms coming down. They're going to want out, run everything as you can feel right now. First of all, you're having to think a lot about what your hips are doing, right? It's just it's normal, right?
Speaker 2:
Cause we're not. We don't think about moving our hips like this and everyday lives. It really takes a lot of concentration at first and that's going to make a move kind of slow. So if you run into the point where you're going to hit balls and the arms, get that little bit ahead and start like they do in your swing, your hips will never get out of the way in time. And you'll never get that hit back like this. You'll still keep losing your posture because your arms will come down to steep. And then you'll always have to stand up to keep burying the club. And the dirt will clear out of the way. So it's really, really important as you're learning to do this is to feel like your arms and shoulders, just take a nap. And it's going to be hard because you've been so fast with your arms, but now you're going to learn to move fast with your hip, but you can't do it fast yet.
Speaker 2:
You got to do these reps and you've got to get to the point where you're really concentrating on feeling powerful in my lower body instead of my arms. And that's going to be that, that transition where at first your arms and hands are going to feel like they're just taking a nap and that's going to be hard. So every time you see that you lose your posture. When you video your swing, you're pretty much going to see that your hands started first and it was just around it. Right. But at least you'll know. Okay. I really gotta do even less with my arms and hands and a little bit about keeping your right arm connected will help because it's just keeping your shoulders from getting so tense. It's keeping it from getting so loaded, which makes it one fire in the downswing. So getting comfortable with this, just stay connected to your turn instead of elevating so much and then using your hips to bring it down and you'll see that it brings your arms right down to the right spot without trying, you'll see your swings playing shallow out immediately. So what I want to do one last thing. I want you to grab the club. You're going to do your drill and you're going to focus a hundred percent of your hips and keeping your head up against the fan. But let's just see what happens to the club when you do this. Okay?
Speaker 2:
Okay. Do a couple of those arms are quiet. You're just using your hips. There you go. Use those hips. Cool. All right. Let's take a quick look at that. You will be pleasantly surprised with your swing plane. Yeah. Nice and connected here. And you'll feel now if you, if you're having to concentrate to use your hips, instead of relying on your arms, that hiking that right shoulder up makes no sense. If you stay down and more relaxed because you don't want to use it, right. You don't want to train it to get it off. So you can see now your arms are great at the top, but normally, and this is what like tiger woods looks like after breed and all these guys look more compact like this at the top, but you wouldn't have been able to get any power from this before because you weren't, your hips weren't working. So now you can keep your arms nice and relaxed and compact at the top like this and watch what happens to your swing point.
Speaker 1:
Oh yeah. Completely shallowed out. Right.
Speaker 2:
Okay, cool. So that is what you're looking for. It's a big, big change, but this is how you get the club to shallow out, drop right through your shoulder, your bicep, your forearm, and it's in a perfect delivery spot to be able to really be released, put your hips, that all of that work. And so when I say that, you know, the golf swing is really about learning how to move your core correctly. You can see how much it really is that case. And this is what gets the club to go on plane and go where we need it to go. So that's your homework can be a little bit more connected up here and then just keep focusing on moving your hips, but that starting to learn how to do it with some power. So cause it's gotta move your torso, right? Your left hip is really turning to move your whole rib cage to speed your arms up for you. That's what we mean. When we're saying we hit the ball with your legs, you really get involved with your hips, your glutes. That's where it comes from. Nope. I think I know what to do now. Perfect. All right, man. Well, great. Would be a big game changer for ya. All right. Well I appreciate you back and I'll see you later. All right. Take care. You too.
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