How Much do the Pros Set Their Wrists?

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John
Chuck, thank you for all your hard work and analysis of the GOATs! I’ve only recently joined RS specifically for the theory and code. The feels you’ve suggested and taught are hands down the most incredible thing in golf instruction. The swat from 8-2 was fantastic, and the last two vids you’ve put out tied everything up with a bow for me. The range sesh today felt great and with half my usual swing length and 1/3 of the effort, the balls just as far with about 1200rpm less backspin. My old swing can get steep which is fine with a short iron in your hand but problematic at best with anything more. Looking forward to ingraining this feeling so I can begin to add some major speed. Currently a 4.2 but my swing on video made me sick to my stomach. Now it looks way better, thanks to you. Please keep this material coming. It is priceless. I’ll try to send in a before/after vid soon. ✌????
March 26, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Nice John, let's get you down to scratch - or better!
March 27, 2024
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Robert
Chuck - From what I see, I don't think that the pros DELIBERATELY uncock early in the downswing. What I think we see when the HackMotion appears to indicate this is as follows:- At the top of the backswing, the hands charge direction from going up to going down; this change of direction produces a slight increase in wrist cock (its not much, because the wrist is already nearly fully cocked); this increase in wrist cock then springs back slightly. This is a dynamic physical effect, not a deliberate one. Then, as the downswing progresses and increases speed, the centrifugal force generated by the circular motion of the clubhead THROWS the clubhead OUT and inevitably this reduces wrist cock somewhat. Looking at Tiger's and others' swing, I think they keep most of the lag until quite late in the downswing. I am reminded of how Bobby Jones used to demonstrate the essence of the golf swing with a penknife tied to the end of his handkerchief. That of course was in the days of floppy Hickory shafts, but I think it mostly still applies. It is only late in the downswing that these guys deliberately apply uncocking force; most of the speed generated comes from the whip effect of releasing the centrifugal force. You've often said that only the big muscles of the legs and trunk can generate all that speed we see in the pros. only a small part can come from the small muscles of the forearms and hands.
March 26, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
When did I say they deliberately uncock their wrists??? And the opposite is true in many cases, the wristcock is actually decreased at the top of the swing in many golfers, including Olesen.
March 26, 2024
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Robert
OK, I agree you haven't said "deliberately", but when I've watched these recent videos I've got the impression that you are encouraging early release of the lag. And Padraig actually says it. And as we know most amateurs "throw" from the top with shoulders and arms and hands and flip, which is surely too early a release?
March 26, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Throwing from the top is different than losing lag.
March 26, 2024
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thomas
Throwing from the top vs early release of lag, or deliberately releasing lag/unlocking wrist. How are these different? I seen the widen the lead wrist Video, and it physically LOOKS like your uncocking the wrist while you say “throw from the top” “When did I say they deliberately uncock their wrists???” When I read this comment you said to Robert, I got pretty confused. Because that’s what it looks like you’re doing in the widen the wrist video.
April 1, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Losing lag in any substantial way means that the hands aren't moving fast enough. That's what people generally think of when they think "cast" or "losing lag". As I showed in one of the recent videos using the Hackmotion data it's only a few degrees that this is happening, whereas a true "cast" or losing lag would look like 20-30 degrees.
April 1, 2024
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Steve
Would it be fair to say that the weight shift back to the lead side may be where Robert is seeing the “additional” load of the wrists? Throwing from the top makes sense to me if your pressure has shifted to the left!
March 27, 2024
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
You can see that in golfers who's wrists are more soft, they will tend to downcock a little in the downswing. Just don't see that much in the GOATs
March 27, 2024

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