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Starting in Day 2, we begin to work on Larry's body movement to sync up with his hand speed.
I want you to clarify the part about, because I know when you're going back, you want me to be facing longer here, but then you also want me to be opening, I was kind of doing stuff along with this, and what's the point where I'm going to be finishing and opening up so that I can go through, do you understand?
I think so, yeah.
You want to be throwing away from the target, you want to be throwing away, but then at some point you have to open up to be able to finish.
You won't really be able to stop that.
So what you were doing yesterday was trying to kind of turn your body through.
You want to give your hands a chance to rotate over.
So if you do, so once you kind of get back to here where you're on this left side, your hips are open, and your hands are the only thing really moving, they're rotating.
Yeah.
But you can see my shoulders, I'm not trying to turn at all.
Right.
I'm literally trying to let my hands rotate over, and the momentum of the club is going to pull you around.
Yeah.
So that's really what you're trying to achieve there.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
I kind of understood.
I just wanted to get kind of clarified.
Sure.
I'm trying to simulate timers.
It's pretty wild how fast he moves or how slow it looks.
So I know that one of the things I have to work on is getting this shoulder to be going through into here.
So we're going to work on that today because that's obviously the biggest thing that you're going to tend to kind of fall back into.
And we're going to help you understand kind of what the right side needs to feel like, too, to work with those sides together.
See?
Even there, your right arm is bending quite a lot.
I mean, it should be going like way up there, right?
Well, it really just needs to not move a whole lot.
That's kind of the whole trick to it.
Oh, okay.
But that's kind of what we're going to focus on today.
So once you kind of have a feeling of where the left shoulder goes, and you have a feeling of where the right shoulder is going, it'll help you put these together.
Because there's, there's always a, there's a, there's a fine line between the two.
And this is where defining the right feel for what you want to feel in your swing is important.
So like if, as a tendency, you know, You tend to kind of do this where you push your left arm across your body, and that forces this right arm to fold instead of thinking about moving your left shoulder, right?
So if you move your left shoulder, both of my arms get moved.
Does that make sense?
But if I move just my left arm, then my arms always fold.
So you can focus on feeling that left shoulder move and that helps you keep this really wide, really easy.
And that's one way to feel it.
That's how most of the, you know, most of the greats kind of talked about their backswing was feeling this left shoulder, just drive everything back.
Their arms and hands really doesn't do much of anything.
Another way to feel it is taking that right shoulder and then they both have to work together.
Like if the left shoulder is moving, the right shoulder is moving and vice versa typically, right?
But if you feel that you're taking your right shoulder and pulling it behind your head, that also, and you feel like it's going up a little bit, that helps your left shoulder go down.
And for somebody who kind of lets this right arm get really beat up, you're used to kind of dominating with your left hand and left arm, that'll help you kind of start to balance the two out.
So if you start kind of focusing on this for a minute, which we will, then you'll start feeling, like, okay, well now if I pull my right shoulder back, it doesn't make sense for my right arm to fold.
And the reason is if my right shoulder is going back, it's kind of outrunning the folding of my right arm.
The reason your right arm folds is because the right shoulder isn't moving.
So what I mean by that is if I move my left arm and my right shoulder doesn't go anywhere, this has to bend.
It doesn't have a choice.
But even if I still screwed up and pushed my left arm really hard, but I let my right shoulder go back, it outruns the folding of the right arm.
Does that make sense?
So that will help you feel kind of a balance between the two.
So we do left arm, But because you already have a tendency to be really tight with that left hand and push that left hand across your chest, I'm going to kind of balance that out a little bit this morning so you can kind of be like, oh, I can feel either one because it'll accomplish the same thing.
You're not going to be able to tell if I focus on moving my left shoulder to get to the top of the backswing, or I focus on moving my right shoulder.
It looks the same to you, but they feel different.
And it'll just help you get the feeling of getting that right arm to stay straighter longer.
And one thing you were talking about that might help a little bit too is just not gripping so hard.
It's going to be important, but again, you're not going to just erase years and years of tendencies in an hour, right?
So the more that we focus on this, and because this is already doing too much and it's too tight, it's going to probably just get you to be even more tight, right?
Yeah.
So now if you focus on getting that right shoulder back and up, it's like feel this way, like you're tilting your shoulders more toward the ground.
This way.
There you go.
Now, if you focus on getting your right shoulder to go back that way, and you just keep going all the way to the top of that right shoulder, you're going to make a full turn and your right arm will be able to stay straighter a lot longer.
There you go.
Just relax though.
The whole key to rotation is relaxation.
There you go.
Yeah.
Let your hip pivot.
Let everything move a little bit.
And keep in mind too, going slow is going to make you feel 10 times more tense, right?
If you move that right shoulder back very quickly, you're not going to feel all that tension.
Yeah, exactly.
Remember, this has got to happen super fast.
And even that, that's going to train your even stopping at the top like that.
Yeah.
That's going to be a bad thing.
I mean, it is and it isn't.
It helps you check things, right?
But you'll know when you do that, you have to engage all these muscles to hold the club up there against gravity, right?
So you're just, and that's the opposite of what we want in the swing.
They have to be able to move back down very quickly, right?
I want to give that little bit of a stretch or bounce.
Yeah, exactly.
To get that extra tension.
Exactly.
So we won't get that when we're going slow and static, right?
So there's a balance.
I'm not telling you not to do slow motion stuff, because it's helpful to be like, oh, okay, I can see it.
But really that, that last little bit of turn that you're really seeing in the swing where the for really from about, you know, Roughly when your arms are just past parallel to the ground all the way to the top, is really almost all dynamic, stretching in the real swing.
If you're trying to do that statically, You're engaging muscles and stretching them and tightening them up in a way that's not natural, and it's going to just completely throw you off.
You're really just moving to here, and then it's momentum and dynamic stretching that's happening from there on forward.
So that's why if you are going to practice this stuff, don't try to go all the way to the top because that's not real.
That's not really what you're doing.
You're kind of just going to here, trying to make a full shoulder turn.
And then from there it's stretching and then you're going.
So yeah, you won't be able to stop it there.
There's no way, no way.
Right.
So, So let's practice this morning, kind of feeling a little bit more of that right shoulder, going up and back to get your shoulder steep.
And then just go ahead and come on down.
There you go.
Good.
So now your right arm's not folding nearly as much as when you were pushing with your left, but when we first started this morning it was this again.
And then I also don't want to get too flat.
It's more of up here.
Exactly.
I mean, one of the tricks to being able to strike the ball cleanly consistently, you'll see most of the great players have really steep shoulders going back.
So even that's a little too flat.
So you kind of want to feel like your left shoulder is going down at the ground, the right shoulder is going up at the sky.
There you go.
Good.
Actually, for me, it's more of a feeling of this left shoulder.
If I just make this left shoulder feel like it's going way down, I'm not thinking about my right shoulder.
Okay.
Either one of them, it's the same thing because one can't move without the other, right?
It seems if I think about my right shoulder, then I engage my right arm.
Sure, sure.
For me, anyway.
I can feel it.
And you know how right hand dominant I am.
Yeah.
So that's going to help you keep that whip back in there and keep you from making that really short turn where your arms feel like you're getting stuck back behind you, right?
So either one, Like, when you go back home and you're like, trying to just remember what it felt like when you were here, what you were feeling, both of them accomplish the same thing.
It doesn't matter which way you want to feel it, as long as you're kind of accomplishing the same basic move, which the big key for you is rotation.
You have to get enough rotation that your arms don't have to do something.
Something has to move the club to the top, right?
It's either going to be this or it's going to be this.
And what you want is for your arms to not get that out of sync with your body.
And when this folds a lot and this goes deep across your body, my hands now have to go all the way back here to get back to impact.
So that's all you're really trying to accomplish with this.
And if you can feel it left side like we talked about yesterday with that left shoulder going down, it helps you stay more centered over the ball, keeps you from moving off the ball.
The right shoulder feeling like it's going high does the exact same thing.
Either one of those when you go back home and practice, Because you may find, like, when you're hitting balls and stuff's happening really quick and you really don't have time to think, you may find like one day you feel like, okay, my left shoulder feels really good.
And then, you know, You play a few days and then all of a sudden you kind of start making a really short swing, and you start kind of swinging your left arm too much.
Like, okay, well, let me just balance this out a little bit, feel this again.
And it'll just help give you two different ways to kind of get that same feeling back, to make you turn, which is all we're really trying to do.
So, and also, the turn and the rotation will just naturally help me keep better width in my swing, rather than thinking about being wide.
Exactly.
You don't really want to think about being wide, am I correct?
Or is it a little bit of thinking of being wide too?
The whole truth of it is, is that the arms just really aren't moving.
That's really what's happening.
So that's more of the secret.
It is, yeah.
Because if the arms don't move, if I could just have the arms just don't move, they're just going to stay wide anyway.
Exactly.
But if I start using my arms, then I'm starting to shorten.
A hundred percent.
By bending my right arm, okay.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, as soon as you start moving your left arm across center line, like across your sternum, well, my fingers don't match up anymore, so this arm has to bend, right?
That's all it is, right?
So if you just feel that you never moved your arms, which is impossible, then your arms would stay wide and right in front of your chest the whole time.
And that's what most better players are always trying to feel in their swing, is that they just always, even when their arms go to the top and they get a little bit deeper, because this is going to fold at some point.
It doesn't have a choice.
What they're feeling next is like trying to wait for those arms to start to get back in front of their body before they really fire everything.
Yeah, can you even watch some of those, there's one Canadian long drive guy years ago, I watched his swing, and his right arm, even way up here, was still above his left arm.
And he was like this.
Yeah.
That's exactly what they're trying to do.
Yeah.
Because that also, you know, when you, the straighter you keep your arms, the more it's going to force you to turn, because nothing else is there to move the golf club.
So then you're like, you see these long drive guys, they're trying to make the biggest shoulder turn humanly possible, that they physically can.
And to do that, if they just did this right away like you are, they wouldn't turn at all, because they feel fully loaded up right here.
So that's the whole trick to this, is just, that's why like tension and things like that you've got to be careful of, because if you're really tight right off the ball, you start, I mean, even just tightening my grip, I feel the tension going all the way to my shoulder.
And so now I'm going to start wanting to push that across my body really hard.
Exaggerate a little bit more, let's focus on turn, and get your left shoulder, let's exaggerate a couple, and I want your left shoulder to go straight down to the ground.
Pretty close there.
You feel a little bit of right arm there when you're hitting it a little fat.
That's all that is, right?
So your arm's still getting a little bit deep.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so when you get it deep, then you feel the need to kind of fire that tricep and shoulder, and that's what's causing you to hit down on the ground a little bit steep.
So again, this goes back to what we were doing yesterday, of getting that left side to help pull through a lot more quickly and dynamically.
Go to the top.
So that should already be pulling you back.
And see, once you're already here and start straightening that leg, rotate your hips out of the way.
There you go.
So that shallows out your swing.
Think of your golf swing in terms of any time you're out playing and you hit a bad shot or whatever, And this is going to be a tendency is to kind of hit back behind it a little bit.
Because you're firing that right arm before, your body's kind of cleared out of the way and shifted pressure back to the left, okay?
So there's two different ways to think about the golf swing.
There's steepening moves and there's shallowing moves.
That's really what it comes down to.
It's like when you're hitting it fat, you're too steep, right?
Does that make sense?
Clubs just coming down too sharply to the ground.
If you're hitting it thin, you're too shallow.
So anytime you think about when you're hitting a bad shot, think of it as, okay, I hit it fat.
I came down steep.
I took a deep divot.
I hit behind the ball.
I'm too steep.
What can I do to shallow out the swing?
And it's really simple with the fundamentals I've given you so far.
There's only like two things.
You only have two choices, right?
If you're going to shallow out your swing, lateral movement shallows out your golf swing.
So Mo Norman liked to have that big lateral, and he didn't want the knee to fold it.
So he was like this, and he talked about his magic move was getting like this.
This is a shallowing move.
Axis tilt or secondary tilt, my spine falling back because my hips are moving forward.
That's a shallowing move, okay?
This is a steepening move.
This is a steepening move.
This is a steepening move, right?
So lateral movement and rotation are your shallowing moves, and rotation can happen with your body.
It can happen with your hands.
That'll make the club go way inside, be too shallow.
So that's how you start thinking about when I'm hitting a bad shot.
So when you feel that you're hitting the ground there, your swing is too steep, what do I need to do to shallow?
So the first thing would be making sure you get left and get that hip cleared out of the way.
That'll instantly shallow out your swing.
So let's try and feel that that left side is helping pull you back to the left and see what happens to your angle of attack.
Now if you hear the difference, you just barely brushed the grass, right?
And your divot was way up here, not way back here.
Kind of in the middle, you'll probably felt a little more right arm that time.
Yeah, that's exactly it, right?
So you're getting it.
Now you're going to start understanding steepening and shine.
When I hit a bad shot, I know what I did.
Focus on the left side to pull you through, clear that hip out of the way.
Nice and shallow, right?
Good.
A little bit of both there.
There you go.
So now what you'll see that when you come through and it's nice and clean and crisp like that, you're just barely brushing the grass, that's what you're aiming for.
You don't need to dig squirrel graves with a club, right?
Shallow and just kind of skimming the grass.
That, you're moving a little bit more laterally and you're clearing your hips.
That's all the differences.
So that's a shallowing move in your swing.
And what you were doing before is you were kind of like this, kind of doing the Moe Norman, not straightening the knee.
And then your body's in the way.
Your hips are in the way.
And if you're firing that right arm while your body's in the way, well of course there's nowhere for the club to go.
It's going to hit back here.
The moment you do this, instantly shallows everything out.
No, but I think Tiger said when he's hitting the ball the best he ever hit it, he never took a divot.
100%.
Taking divots is, you don't, you really don't need to take a divot at all.
And ideally, I like to just bruise the grass.
There you go.
Perfect.
I can really feel the club momentum too.
Yeah, you're not driving it down.
I can feel it.
That felt more like the momentum would just pull me right through.
Your body has to do that.
Your body has to help of getting moving laterally.
It does so many things in the swing.
It shallows it out.
It does all sorts of stuff.
But it keeps you from just feeling like you're just muscularly pushing that right arm through the ball.
There you go.
When you're doing this too, earlier when we started out, your path was a little bit too far into out, which is going to lead to kind of some hooks, right?
Yeah.
But now, your path is squared up because you're rotating.
Rotation.
Watch what happens in my hand if I just turn my hip.
It brings it back out in front of me.
If I don't do that and I just drive my arm, well, it's always going in to out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's going to be like one degree, two degrees in to out.
It's perfect.
Nice and clean.
You notice how you're posting up a little better on the left side too now.
There you go.
Good.
How's that feel now?
It just feels like, like I said, it feels like the club is doing a lot of work.
The momentum club is so strong that it just forces me to, just pulls me right through.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what you need from that left side.
That's the left side's job is to help initiate everything, get that pressure transfer going back.
And these are things that when you go out and you start playing and you get like, it's one thing to like work on the mechanics and stuff like that, but you need to go out and have like play five rounds of golf and just hit different shots, try a little different feels, subtle little changes, see what happens.
But as you start doing that, You're going to realize that you don't need to put that much force into your right arm and shoulder and all that stuff to produce speed.
I mean, you can do that.
And if you're trying to hit it as far as humanly possible, that's one thing, but you won't need to do that to carry it 250 every time at all.
Like that's an easy distance gain.
That's going to be just blending the two that you're getting that left side to pull.
And the quicker this left side clears out of the way, the faster you can fire that right wrist and right hand.
That's how you kind of think about it is again, just like throwing a ball.
I'm not trying to push my right shoulder to throw a ball.
I'm not trying to shove my right arm to throw a ball.
I'm using my left side to pull me around.
This is all pivoting on my left hip.
And then my right wrist goes, and that's where the speed is.
And that's what you start getting a feel.
Like we were talking about yesterday, if you're holding the club really, really tight, like you were, you just lose a lot of sensitivity in it.
And what you want to feel is being able to just like zing that club through the ball.
And it won't feel like as much effort as you're used to putting into it, especially with that right arm stuff, but you'll feel speed.
And it's just speed in a microburst of time.
And that's where you've got to get the feeling of this left side has to clear out of the way.
And then you can just start feeling your right wrist.
You'll find like the softer you keep it, the more you can zing that puppy through there and get a lot more speed.
So that's where you're going to start trying to, it's way easier to do that, where you just go out on the course and you just, you hit a bunch of different shots and you see where it's really going, real distance, trajectories, all of that stuff when you're out playing.
And then just know, you should know how to fix it now, right?
If you're hitting it fat, you ain't turning, right?
You're going like this and then you're just hacking down with that right arm because you have to.
And then if you see your knee kind of bent, you're not clearing your hip out of the way.
So you're going to be too steep because your hip's in the way.
So you're going to do nothing but block your arm.
So it should be really simple to start figuring out, okay, all I need is this left side pull and this right wrist throw, and that's all you need to feel.
So also that habit of mine of pulling this inside, I'm just doing that over time, Just the idea of not trying to use my arms and turning down and under with my right shoulder coming back should help with that.
Yeah.
I mean, look where the club is.
It's exactly where it's supposed to be.
The trick is if you add anything to it, you know, too much hand movement, too much forearm movement, whatever.
Sometimes I get to there and I feel like I'm kind of stuck a little bit because I'm not used.
But that's just the idea of continuing to turn.
Exactly.
Right?
Exactly.
If I stop turning, then I'm going to start folding.
Have no choice.
Exactly right.
Yep.
There you go.
And then just brush the grass like that.
A little heavy, what'd you feel?
It was a little, I think it was just that it got steep.
Yep.
I didn't really fire through and up or close up and clear.
Exactly.
Now let's focus on that left side stretch and watch what happens to the divot.
Too shallow, right?
But that's it.
Now you know how to correct it.
But that felt like a lot of momentum.
Exactly.
And that was your line movement.
That's your driver swing.
Pretty close there.
A little steep.
And you'll feel that like the more you relax with your turn going back, and you just try to make a bigger, quicker turn.
Your arms will stay out wider.
And this is again like that tiger challenge yesterday.
We'll probably do that again today.
But what you'll learn from that is there's no time for you to turn and swing your arms.
Your arms, just this movement alone, which is what you're used to doing, it takes a lot of time.
I mean, think about that.
Like, no matter how fast your swing.
Why do I have to slow down my whole body because I'm so far in front?
My hands are so much.
They're buried.
Yeah.
So now when it's like this, you have to get rid of all of that, right?
So just, there's physically not enough time.
But, if I just went, my arms barely moved, I can get here super fast.
Okay.
My backswing can happen way, way faster.
And that's what people, when they're trying to do that drill, they're like, wait a second, I'm turning and now I've got to finish my arm swing.
And they never get there, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So if you just turn, Then you're ready to go back the other way, and your arms don't have to work so hard to get back out in front of you.
It's a little better.
Yeah.
It's funny how, yesterday, even though I was doing this, but yet at the top I still was getting pretty good.
I was probably still too narrow.
But I was getting, at least this part was in pretty good position.
Yeah, because when we were working on this, That's why I think this is going to be so helpful.
Because you feel like in order to get that piston to slam down at the right time, your wrist can't be like this.
Because there's just no way to release them fast enough, right?
So you corrected immediately.
Yeah, you did bow it a little bit going back.
But then as you got to the top, you went back to here because you're like, I know I've got to get this motion with my hands.
So you're welcome to use this.
You kind of subconsciously did that.
Exactly.
There's one right through there, actually.
There's a secret door.
To your right.
There it is.
Good.
Sounded pretty good timing.
that's going to help a ton especially when you get comfortable with this that's where you're going to feel that speed really come from double overlap yeah i'm sure that does take a lot of tension on my right i have tried that and it's much harder to hook doing that oh for sure you can't force the club over you can't you can't even if you want to get hard you can't yeah pretty good yeah from where you were yesterday when you're releasing out by your head yeah i think you're posting up a lot better now like you're getting through the ball training on that motion and like you know i could done i've trained myself the opposite like you know for the last two years oh watch out she's coming back behind you there i'll get that out of the way yeah if you look at where you were yesterday like there your your left knee can still straighten up quicker but you look at yesterday look at how bent both knees were even after impact like that was just all blocking and then you had no choice but to use that arm in a bad way that was making you steep and then that also makes as you start firing the right arm too soon you know it's going to rotate over it has to because there's no way all no other way to move the golf club but if you're doing that too soon that's where your hooks are coming from because you're shutting the club face and your body just can't get out of the way now what you're going to find as you start moving more with the lead side to help balance all of this stuff out instead of kind of being like this and you're starting to be like this well now you actually want your hands to turn over more but you're to you right now that's a death knell like you're like there's no way i'm going to try to turn my hands over because you would just hook it more right because your body was in the way but the faster your body starts clearing out of the way the faster you're going to start releasing your hands and that's when you're going to start feeling that the speed really start to happen and your body's relaxed like i'm not my body's not really moving here it's just out of the way pull helping pull through but then i release my hands with a lot of speed and that's why my follow-through looks really relaxed right because i'm not fighting anything i'm just hope this is getting out of the way and i just let my hands release the club that's the feeling that you're going to start getting used to instead of kind of you're used to holding that club off as long as you can and so this is going to be the opposite of that but you can't do that unless your left side of your body gets out of the way yeah so then you'll start get used to being able to like get your hands to do this again which is where all that speed comes from i'm going to record a couple here i'm going to take a look at them you're ready to hit the ball yeah all right come take a look at this real quick so all your problems really start right off the takeaway yes so see how much you're moving just that left wrist yeah so that's going to what do you think that's going to do to your turn well it's going to shorten it and make my right arm bend right away yep exactly so think of your right arm as going i call it the governor of width in the swing if the right arm folds your body won't turn it's just going to kill it immediately right so that's all that's happening here is that you're kind of getting too much left wrist see how it's starting to bow it's such a hard thing to fix yeah it's so hard well we'll work on that with the hack motion in just a minute sure so i'll help you understand how to use that but that's all that's really killing us okay from there like you're moving back to the left way better it's a great move starting to clear up out of the way pretty well you can straighten the left knee better which you're just used to not doing that like my fused hips my hips don't turn they're they're a little more frozen together so it's you know i think that's part of the motion why it kind of looks kind of funky there gotcha i can't my my hips don't you know since it's fused they don't move as good sure sure they don't twist as good or rotate as quite as good gotcha i mean tiger still does it i have the same same fusion as him but well he's been doing this for 40 kind of funny the way i move sometimes through the ball but i think it's also partially my hips are frozen together too they're fused together my hips but my spine yeah like we all have our physical limitations that we're dealing with right at the end of the day how's a club coming into the ball it's nice and square hitting it right in the center of the face with a great path yeah and a great release you can play great golf from there with all your physical limitations it doesn't matter right that's all we're trying to get to we're not trying to make you swing exactly like tiger we're trying to use the things we can learn from him but at the end of the day this is you know these six feet are all i care about this is the most important part is that start where i'm where i'm i'm what do you call that bowing or moving a deflection yeah yeah exactly that's really causing me a lot of trouble because then it doesn't work my body won't turn if i do that exactly you want to you want to use your hack motion do you have it with you yeah and let's um yeah i think it's
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