Larry's Lesson Day 2 - Pt 2 - Using the Hackmotion
Now we begin to use the Hackmotion to make a huge change in Larry's shut faced takeaway and start getting him feeling a proper move to start the club back.
Let's go, we're gonna do some practice, grab the club.
No, either one.
Where did it go?
We lost it already.
No, that's mine, must be over there.
Okay, so I'm gonna show you a couple things real quick here first.
Okay, so one of the things we're gonna do is we're gonna add a benchmark, so that's in this top little hamburger menu.
Yeah, hit benchmark, choose a benchmark.
Long games we're doing full swing, you can do short game and putting all that stuff too.
Just do the recommended pattern, the top one, Okay, okay, so just select that.
Close all that out.
That's gonna put a tour pros data and that's what we're gonna start.
Understanding exactly what you're researching, and you'll see this orange line is flexion and extension.
Okay, this is what we're gonna be paying attention to.
So I'm gonna have you hit one and we're just gonna collect the data and then we're gonna.
I'm gonna show you how to interpret all this stuff.
Okay, perfect.
So every time you hear it being like that, it got it.
So now come on over here, let's take a look.
Okay?
So your data is gonna be the solid line and the benchmark is gonna be dashed.
Okay, so what this is showing?
We're gonna just let's just we're gonna take all this other stuff out for a minute.
So this is showing your wrist at address is 48 degrees in extension already, okay, and the Tour Pro is gonna be a little bit smaller, like a lot smaller, 48, 14 degrees.
And I'm gonna show you how to do all this stuff in a minute.
But then what you're gonna see is that your wrist in the zero line, everything above zero is extension, everything below that is flexion.
So when you see your line trending down like this, that's you bowing that wrist.
And you'll see they keep their wrist really kind of like the same the whole time.
There's just so little wrist movement, right?
So it should stay up here.
Well, we want to actually stay down here.
We don't want that much extension that you had to address, so we'll dot.
I'll show you how to set it at address and get it right, because this will show you exactly where to be.
So now you're gonna see that they stay pretty much like that.
Numbers barely changing, but yours dropped a ton.
Yeah, right, so now what you've done is you, you've bowed.
That got that wrist a lot and now it's something you got to change in the downswing.
So then you'll see, then it goes, this is where you catch on, you're like, Oh, I'm too bowed.
So you move back into extension and you start moving back into extension as you get to the top of your swing.
So this is all your takeaway, bowing it right away, and then you you realize that's not right, and then you start moving to extension.
In an ideal world, we just kind of stay there, right?
Yeah, that that just makes your your life so much simpler, right?
Exactly?
So this extension.
But I'll show you how to do all this.
So, and then at the top, or at impact, we're, or, excuse me, at the top, here's impact, so at impact you'll see the tour pros.
Then they finally move down into a little bit of bowing, and that's not much about six degrees of bowing, which is only like that, right?
But you're at 30 degrees of extension.
Okay, so, and again, this is, these are all things that are compensation.
Remember extensions this way?
yep, exactly so, so, like, like a motorcycle, extensions and it too much, exactly so.
That's why you're not deal off in the club enough.
Okay, so you're not going to get good compression on the ball, but you're doing that because you're fighting the hook.
Yeah, right, so now, as we start dialing all this stuff in, you'll watch all of this stuff change dramatically.
Okay, so now I'm going to show you how to.
We'll just use, we'll use, you do one more, so we'll.
I'm going to set ranges in here just to be exactly like it is just for fun right now.
So he starts at 15 and pretty much stays with it from maybe goes down to like.
And that's my left wrist left.
His reflex is not moving at all, basically, hardly at all.
Yeah, this is why the pros are so consistent.
There's not doing nearly as much.
You're making it way harder.
My wrist moving all over the place, which does what to the clubface, it changes the clubface.
Yeah, exactly, okay, so what's cool about this?
I'm going to set some parameters in here, we're going to go from 15 to negative 7, so I'll show you how to do this.
So now we're going to do audio feedback, we want immediate, we're going to do flexion extension and we're going to go from positive 15 degrees.
Which is where he's starting.
Okay, that's enough, and then to, that's how much he bows his wrist at impact.
Okay, so we have negative 8 to 15, that's all we're looking for.
Okay, so now go ahead and set your Let's see.
So now just take your hand off the club for a second and just kind of like, hold it in neutral.
So if we go that way, so that's where he's starting at address, yeah, and then he goes there at impact, that's how much his wrist moves.
Throughout the whole swing, it's not a lot, so if I lose the sound and I have to, I want to hear the sound the whole time throughout your whole swing.
Yeah, okay, that's really interesting, it's very cool.
And then you, you set the phone down on the ground, like in between you and the ball.
And you can see as soon as you move out of it, it goes red.
It's pretty cool, right?
So if we were, let's recalibrate this real quick because it might have moved or something.
Yeah, there we go.
I think it did move.
Yeah, okay, there you go.
What we're measuring is flexion and extension.
this, there you go, let's recalibrate that real quick.
It is.
Yeah, so let's make sure it's not moving.
So get that perfectly neutral.
There you go, stay right there now, don't move your wrist, just move your arm up about 45 degrees.
Perfect.
There we go.
yeah, now, let's try to, so now if you move your wrist around, yeah, there we go.
Now it matches up better.
What would I want to be at when I'm starting?
He's at about 15, that's a good ballpark number.
So you'll have to get your hand turned a little bit stronger.
There you go, so now you can.
After that, don't really worry about that.
Once the ball is gone, it looks like your hand is really weak, though it may need to be tighter.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
yeah, now it'll be a little better there.
Well, the issue.
Look at your club face, the club face is shut, so take your grip and get it where there you go.
And then let the face sit a little more open, there you go, yeah, and then if you let the face sit a little more open, most, most, better players are going to have the face.
Sitting like this at a dress, amateurs struggle, and they have it like this at a dress because they're trying to buy something.
So you want to go ahead and take your grip and then let it.
As you let your hands rotate a little bit, you'll find that happy spot.
I definitely felt like, yeah, it makes me feel like this hand can't do anything because it's really not supposed to, right, it's not.
I mean, as you saw, like when you take the club back, normally watch what happens to the numbers here, here's what you normally do.
Yeah, 22, 22 flexion, and then my hand comes off like that.
Yeah, two, yeah, it has to, right, and then the club face gets really shut.
Yes, now your wrist is way more square going back, way flatter.
There you go.
Way better.
It's so helpful.
You know, I am both a visual and auditory learner, so that auditory is really important for me.
I can, you know, and I can see the, I can see the green, but also it's just that trying to keep it not from, you know, just not keeping the sound on.
Yeah.
That's really significant.
It's, I love this thing.
It's amazing.
There you go.
I've stayed pretty much the whole time.
Yeah, exactly.
Before, you would have lost it two inches off the ball.
Right?
And now you're fighting a hooded face, and you've been, you know, hooking it for so long.
It's a death move for you.
Now you know if that thing's staying green, you're not going to hook it.
You know, for me, when I set up, no matter what club it is, even when it's open, it looks close to me.
Everything looks close.
Really?
If I set up, that looks like balls are close.
Even every, especially every iron, this looks open.
That, and I think square is right about there.
I think you'd be surprised at how open most good ball strikers set up at a dress.
Yeah.
Like, I played golf with.
It makes sense to me, though, that they would be.
They're going to release it.
I'd like to have clubs that were more open naturally because I hooked them all so much.
And you can't find them.
And all these clubs are set up to anti-hook anyway.
Yeah, yeah.
Most clubs.
Right.
Yeah, if you look at, if you play golf, like, the first time I ever became aware of this was watching Trevor Immelman up close.
Right there, that seems closed to me.
That's a little closed, yep.
Yeah.
I would set, I would personally, like, that square, I would set up like that.
Yeah.
A couple degrees open because I know I'm going to release it.
I'm not worried about that.
Yeah, well, you are, yeah.
Well, you are, too.
You're releasing it.
Great.
Yeah, I am releasing it.
So don't be afraid to set up a little open.
Yeah.
Maybe the grip changes it, too.
Yeah, I see that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's fine there.
Then I go to grip and it just closes.
Let's get the wrist turned a little bit more.
Get this up here.
I wouldn't worry too much about starting.
We can change the benchmark, too, or the audio feedback.
Just give you a little more range at address.
Of course, that might force me not to grip so tight.
That's true, too.
You know, when I start to grip tighter, then it changes that sensor.
You can see it moving.
Yeah, it's not the weakness of it.
It needs to be further back up here.
I think it's just the way the sensor is sitting on there.
How far back should it be?
It should be an inch from that wrist bone right there.
An inch from this.
Yeah.
Let's just make sure that's sitting there.
So we should be.
If your wrist is turned.
That should be a normal address position.
Let's do.
Let's see.
Now, your hand should be able to sit right there and still be in range there.
Let's just look at.
Do one more, actually.
Do one more.
And we'll look at the data.
We'll take a look at this.
That one stayed green the whole time.
Now, look at the difference.
Oh, wow.
That's way too.
Remember, you were like way up here and then way down.
That's much improved.
I mean, it's not perfect, but it's much improved.
You have control of the club face now, right?
Like, it's not like you're just fighting this whole time.
The dotted guy's the pro guy, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Actually, I got a little bit of.
You know, I mean, I'm going a little there, but it's not.
So you were at plus 14, but before.
So you can go back to all your shots.
Your first shot, you were plus 30 at impact, right?
So you're like scooping.
Yeah, so I was.
Exactly.
Extended.
Exactly, exactly.
So then you can kind of go back, like each shot, and you can leave it on this screen.
How did you get to the history?
The previous, you know, the one I did first.
Yeah, I'll show you.
So you go to graph.
Yeah.
And then you can see the arrows up here.
So you can go to your next shot, your last shot.
So you can go all back to your first one.
And you can see a wild difference.
Oh, yeah.
That one was a roller coaster ride.
Yeah.
Which is what your club's going through.
It's what it's experiencing, right?
I hit it straight.
Straight compared to some of the guys I play with.
But here's your third one.
Look how consistent that is now.
Oh, yeah.
That's like way better.
It's unbelievable how much better that is.
And there, you actually de-lofted the club on the fourth one, negative 13 degrees.
So you took 13 degrees of loft off of that club face at impact, which normally you're adding loft.
So that would actually mean I would compress more.
Exactly, exactly.
Before, if you remember, you kept getting better.
First one, plus 30.
You always want to be, negative six is about optimal.
So you were plus 30, and then you got down to 24.
Plus five, pretty close on that one.
And then here's where you really were able to, oh, I can actually deal off the club face now.
Negative 13, that's a lot, right?
And you can see the big drop in that.
Next one.
So would that mean at impact I was bowing more?
Exactly, exactly.
Remember what we were talking about yesterday.
That's the only way I can really be lofted.
That's exactly what you're doing.
So what this is showing is that your wrist in this swing was at plus six.
So just a tiny bit of extension, which you can see tour pros who are in extension.
Most amateurs are like plus 30, which is what you were when you started, right?
There's a lot of flipping.
Pros are going to be a little bit, I'm around negative seven.
This is Thorborn Oleson's data.
He's around negative seven.
You're going to be in that same ballpark.
But you can see you just start, you're able to move into it.
And then the more stable it stays, The less variation you're going to have in your shot pattern, because you're just not trying to do all kinds of crazy stuff with it.
So now you can also leave it on this screen if you want to make a few swings back and forth.
And you'll see that it'll be red and green when you change here.
So like if you go out, so you don't have to be on that other screen.
You can see the numbers change.
And so if you're hitting a bunch of balls or just swing, every time you swing and you hit the ground, it'll detect it.
It'll detect the vibration and it'll register it.
So you don't actually have to hit shots.
Yeah, we don't want that.
Yeah, let me put this thing on my wrist first.
Well, it's still really weak though.
Yeah, it seems weak.
It seems like it should be about there.
It should be there.
That's why I wonder if it's just like the calibration's off.
It should be the makeup of my wrist too.
Ballpark there, yeah.
That's a better grip.
Yeah.
I think this, you know, if the sensor's off just a little bit because it's super precise.
There you go.
There you go.
So now.
It read at the end.
It did.
Before I hit.
Just before I hit.
So you'll see.
So now you can see the graph data, right?
Yes.
And this is what you'll start.
Oh, I see.
You'll get used to reading.
Exactly.
The dark line is I definitely had more emotion than that previous one.
Exactly.
So every time you do it, you can just leave it on this screen once you learn how to read that data.
In the ballpark.
So you'll see you have a tendency.
So you can see address, top of your swing, impact.
Yeah.
Right in here, you're starting to, you know, middle of your backswing.
You're starting to bow it a little bit.
What's happening here is I'm not turning.
Exactly.
You're going to be fixated on your hands right now, right?
Which is fine, yeah, which I'm not thinking about at the moment.
Yeah.
I'm thinking more of just, I'm really just thinking of keeping those hands from doing anything.
Yeah.
That's what I'm thinking about, which is forcing me to think my hands can't do anything.
Yeah.
Which is great.
I mean, it's this and that thing together are kind of like this, everything you really I've got to double check his bag before he leaves.
Yeah, I think that's, Go ahead and take your normal grip without thinking about setting up, and let's just get the sensor in the right position because your grip looks good there.
Pretty good there.
That's where I would normally do it.
Maybe it needs to slide this way a little bit.
Relax your arm a little bit.
There we go.
I think what you're doing is you have your arm like locked like this.
And then you move your wrist.
That's what they teach in Greatest Golf.
There's the problem.
There's the problem.
Yeah.
It's got to be more relaxed.
There.
Now, see how your grip is stronger?
As soon as your grip will go like that, see?
Ah.
Maybe that's part of it.
Damn it, Moe.
I don't think, I don't know if Moe actually did that.
Damn it, Todd, then.
Todd, yeah.
There.
Yeah.
That's the difference.
That was pretty clean there.
I didn't catch that.
You do need to hit the ground or a ball because the way that the sensor detects it, it feels vibration in that.
Close there, though.
You can see it's way better, right?
Way better.
Before the line was way up here.
Yeah.
Yeah, let your left arm internally rotate a little bit.
Yeah.
There you go.
There you go.
That one should be pretty, probably about the same as the last one.
But, where you are, impact instead of plus 30, you're plus four there.
There's still a little bit of movement there, but I'm probably still, I think what's happening is I'm still not, I'm getting to there and I'm stopping turning.
Well, you're fixated on your hands right now, right?
So, you're not, your body's not going to move.
But, this is why, you know, you're going to practice, you can only think about so much.
It picked it up.
If you hear it ding like that, it caught it.
Yeah, let your arm rotate.
There you go.
There you go.
Yeah, you can see the curve is way less.
Yeah.
So, this will help you understand extension and flexion.
Now, it shows you radiation, ulnar and radial deviation as well.
Okay.
So, this is the teal line.
So, you'll see all this is showing is a lot of wrist cock.
So, now as you start getting this, I always tell people to start with flexion and extension first.
Okay.
Because this is the easiest one to get in the ballpark, and it immediately controls loft on the club face, right?
Okay.
Now, when you start looking at radial deviation, as you start toning that down, you'll realize, gosh, my wrist don't have to do this either, right?
It's very little wrist movement overall.
And then the last one is rotation.
What's the purple in all that?
So, I just added that one.
That's rotation.
I see.
Oh, you added that.
Yeah.
So, your rotation is pretty good.
And so, the rotation is this?
Exactly.
Exactly.
So, that happens.
Most of the rotation happens super late in the swing and super fast.
And you'll see somebody like Olsen, he's got a ton of rotation.
But you'll start becoming aware of the more that you let those hands release over.
They will rotate more.
Yeah.
Well, it's letting that wrist.
The wrist has to move back into extension through the strike.
So, as I go like this, that sensor is rotating over as well.
Right?
Exactly.
So, that's how you start putting extension.
And then a deviation is just not doing this with your wrist, right?
Your wrist is just going to stay wide.
It's going to be a heck of a lot easier when you turn because you have something else to move the club.
So, if you're wide here and then keeping that in extension as you come down, then your wrists are just releasing.
It's primarily just rotation because you can see radial deviation.
Let me take both of those off.
Show me again radial deviation.
That's the teal line.
So, that's ulnar and rad radial deviation.
Their wrists barely move there at all.
Okay.
It's hardly anything.
Right at the end, you see this drop to impact.
He goes from negative 13 to negative 37.
That's this.
Okay.
That's where you're snapping that club.
And the goal is the dotted line.
Exactly.
So, you'll see.
And I'm on the solid line.
Benchmark is the dotted one.
And your data is solid.
Yeah.
So, you'll see.
You're snapping it really well.
That's this.
Okay.
So, you're in the ballpark there, but you're setting it a lot more.
So, now you're just, you're taking that club a little bit more out of position and then having to get rid of it.
And so, that just makes it a little bit more complicated.
So, back here, instead of just having here, I'm doing a little more here.
So, we can do the same thing.
So, I'll just use his data.
Negative 38 to 11 is what we'll do.
So, go back in here to audio feedback and you can do owner radial deviation.
Okay.
So, now we can do, what did I say, negative 38 to, oops, wrong way.
What's going on?
I don't know.
It's going to go the other way, I think.
All right, close enough there.
So, we've got negative 11 and negative 40.
So, now we've switched your feedback.
It's all going to be just radial deviation.
So, it's just going to be this?
No, that's rotation.
Okay.
Owner deviation is this way and this way.
So, it's this way.
Yep.
So, this is radial deviation.
That's your wrist cock in the backswing.
What you're going to find is they don't cock their wrists very much.
Yeah.
So, you're going to find they don't do much extension.
The radial deviation is pretty small.
Very small.
Exactly.
So, now if we go back into that graph, we'll keep that up this time.
And now you're going to see the ulnar and radial deviation is green instead of the extension flexion.
So, you'll see when it turned red, as you're going to the top, you're setting your wrist more, right?
Okay.
So, that's exactly what you're going to see there.
Okay.
So, you started with a little bit more than they had at a dress.
So, he's going to start at negative 38, give or take a little bit.
Then you cross over and you add a lot more.
Okay.
And then you get rid of a lot more.
But you can see the difference in timing.
That's going to be required to go from way up here to way down here in a thousandth of a second.
His face will stay square longer.
Yeah.
It's just, he's never taking it out of position.
Never like opening it or closing it or whatever.
You were closing it immediately and then, you know, and then you add wrist cock and there that changes things as well.
Where should I be starting?
So, if you want to use him as a benchmark, he's at negative 38.
Yep.
Yep.
There you go.
I don't think it caught that one.
Got to hit the ground a little more.
So, you'll see that you started cocking your wrist.
That's pretty, and you see where it lost it, right?
Now, to dress, you're matched up perfectly.
And then right here, you started going, you know, that's about halfway through the backswing.
Okay.
Add wrist to the top.
And then you start adding a lot more.
So, this is, but now, because you started better, notice that the drop, the difference between what you're doing at impact and what he's doing at impact, which is what really matters, right?
Yeah.
Look at how much more closely these curves match up.
Like, before, yours was like dropping way down here, right?
Because you were trying to really sling that wrist.
It's an awesome little device.
It really is.
If you understand how to use it, it's invaluable.
So, now even your setup looks better because your hands don't look so droopy down.
There you go.
It's going to feel like that to you for sure.
These guys don't have a lot of deviation throughout their whole swing.
Pretty close.
I can feel that.
Yeah.
It's there.
Okay.
Well, that's really interesting.
Yeah.
That is really interesting.
And, again, it's because I think I get to hear and I stop turning.
Exactly.
I start going like that instead of turn, turn, turn, turn, turn, turn, turn, turn, turn, If you tried to just not move your hands at all and you just turned your shoulders, you'd maintain that deviation.
Look at the difference in the curve.
It's getting smaller and smaller.
It's getting smaller, yeah.
Right?
So, now you're starting to be like, oh, okay, now I know what my hands are supposed to do.
So, it would be really interesting when I'm out on the range, I got this down and I'm hitting a ball.
Exactly.
And then see what the ball does compared to what the line shows.
That's what I told people in the video when I was like, you don't understand.
Every time you hit a really great pure shot, you need to know exactly what you were doing, right?
You kind of know what it felt like, but now you can actually mark.
So, let's say that you just hit that shot and you're like, dude, I just, I smoked that thing.
That's perfect.
Okay.
Well, you go in here on the screen and hit tag shot and say, I was hitting my six iron.
I hit a slight draw.
I hit it a hundred and, you know, 180 yards or whatever.
And then you save it and you can title it and say, oh, I felt this in my swing.
Give yourself a note, right?
Like working on better deviation at setup or whatever you want to call it, right?
And just hit save.
And then you can go back after your session and easily review all your tag shots.
When I'm puring it, I want to go back and look at the data.
Oh, my extension's way better.
My radial deviation's way better.
Whatever it is that you're working on.
And then you can see, go back and review all these and compare it against the benchmark data after you're done practicing.
Well, what I really like to do is the things I golf by myself, just do it on the golf course.
Exactly.
Because that would definitely be better.
That's what I was telling people to do.
It's like, listen, take this thing out, wear it on the golf course, and every single shot you hit, track it.
And then you know, like, God, when I hit it 50 yards further, what did I do?
What did it feel like?
Put that in your notes.
And then see what the data says you really did.
Compare that with what you feel.
And then as you start taking notes, you'll be like, I know when I hit my best shots, I know it feels weird, but I just don't let my wrist go in deflection going back.
Because that's going to be a thing for you, right?
Because I've never known what a good shot felt like.
I've never swung that way.
To be honest, because until I've worked with you, I thought, you know, when I hit a good shot, I'd say, man, I pounded that and it'd be 210 yards.
Well, you know, sometimes if it's further, I might go 230 or 240.
Sometimes, you know, every once in a while, like I said, a long way, this would really be interesting to see, okay, man, that felt like a really good drive.
The drive looks really good on there, now let's see what it did.
But in terms of, okay, that was 20 yards farther than I normally hit or something.
What you're going to find, like if you add rotation back into here, so you can add whatever you want to see, like if you want to clear out the graph.
So if you add rotation, your rotation's matching up really nicely.
Okay.
So again, don't try to get the numbers exact.
You know, everybody's going to have little different nuances to their swings.
But if you see generalized curves like this, so if we throw all three in there, look at you.
I mean, you're in the ballpark of what a Ryder Cup.
Which ones are me?
The solid.
The solid, yeah.
So that's the solid here too.
Yeah.
All the solid lines.
Oh, it's almost perfect, right?
Yeah, it's not bad at all.
So that's 17 shots.
Now if we go back to your first one.
Yeah.
Yeah, my first one was way up here.
Way off.
And then the rotation changes the scale of the graph a lot, so it kind of smooths it.
So if you take that out, you'll see these numbers don't match up very well at all.
Right.
And then if we go back to your latest one.
Yeah.
Way more in the ballpark.
Yeah.
Right?
So that's how to use this thing.
I recommend taking it out, using it on your shots, set up those audio benchmarks because you can practice in the house, and then just start getting used to like, oh, okay, now you've gone out and played, you've hit a bunch of great shots, and you know like, okay, we know for you, when you go into flexion right away and shut that face, you're going to be fighting a hook and you can't release it.
So your rotation's going to go way down, and your speed's going to go way down.
You start maintaining extension as you go back, and you feel that and that radial deviation Well, that's really interesting.
I do have a nice hitting net in my back.
What's good about this thing is I don't have to hit balls.
As long as you hit the ground.
As long as you get some sort of vibration with it.
Well, I've got a really nice, nice net in my back.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
I'm actually more.
It's actually closer to the graze ball.
There's graze ball.
Exactly.
It's actually almost exactly what it is.
It's in the ballpark.
Your arms are just more elevated than what Oleson's are.
But you're in the ballpark there.
I mean, this thing's like a coach in a box.
Once you understand how to interpret the data and how to change it, you can coach yourself.
At least to a degree, you know?
And then when you're doing swing reviews, you can send us this data.
And we can be like, oh, I can see what's happening right away.
Was I doing both of the solid lines?
All the solid lines are always you.
And that was that last swing?
Yep.
Yeah, 18.
So the purple one was the.
Rotation.
Rotation.
And the other one was the.
Yeah, if you take that one off, you can see a little bit more detail.
So you can see your extension and flexion is wildly different than where you started.
It's way more under control.
And look, you're negative three at impact now.
So you're bowing.
You were plus 30.
Yeah.
Now you're going to be able to compress the golf ball.
I don't even know I'm doing that either.
It should happen naturally.
Yeah, that's the good thing about it.
What, you know, is that it's just happening.
I'm not, like, trying to manipulate it.
This is what I've been trying to tell people.
Like, the golf swing should be a relatively natural movement.
So when you're trying to bow your wrist, I never try and bow my wrist.
It's the last thing on earth.
First of all, it's happening way too damn fast.
I can't try and do that.
Yeah.
And you can't think about it either.
But if you're in extension at the top and you start swinging properly, your wrist, because of the way that the club, as your body starts pulling your.
What happens to your wrist?
Yeah.
It starts to bow.
Right?
You just did it right away so it had nowhere else to go.
Yeah.
I used to do it like this.
And then you have to move into extension because your wrist has to have someplace to go.
So gravity, the change of direction, the momentum of the club, soft hands, body turn, proper technique, that will cause your wrist to bow.
You won't have any choice.
Well, it's interesting that it does.
That's truly amazing.
Well, the 36 degree difference from where you started.
If it slides around, you can try the clip on the glove too if you like that better.
Oh, it actually caught the piston slamming down on the club.
Way better.
Yeah, this one, you're not bad at all.
No.
This one still has too much.
That one, again, the deviation, you're going to have deviation unless you start moving your body correctly.
If you don't turn, your wrists are going to always set too much.
But again, too much is relative.
This is Thorborn Olison's data, right?
And as I did that video a while back, he and Tiger released the club very similarly.
But there's not one way to do it.
If you look, there's other tour pros data in there.
And you'll see most of them have a little bit more radial deviation.
If we were lucky enough to get Ben Hogan on here before he passed away, you would see he has more radial deviation than Olison does, right?
So again, use it as a guideline and then see what you feel like when you hit your best shots, what it feels like, what you want your swing to feel like, and then look at the data and see what it says.
So this deviation might improve if I use my hips and shoulders back?
It will improve.
It will improve.
It will, yeah.
Because, again, there's too much momentum swinging back on the club.
And if you've got a lot of momentum acting on your wrists, it folds them every single time.
But if I don't create that momentum with my hands and I just turn, I can keep my wrist totally deviated all the way to the top.
You felt it though, right?
Oh yeah, I totally felt it.
And this is what's cool about it.
Before this, it would have been impossible for me to really tell you exact.
Even with video, like from every different angle, It's impossible for me to tell you exactly what your hands are doing because we can't see five degrees, right?
See, that one I was thinking about getting my left knee to go here.
And, you know, I didn't even think about the turning.
So that was the difference.
Yeah, so you got more deviation.
That one little thing.
Yeah.
I might have done something.
I didn't do quite as well, but I mean that one.
It was less that time, right?
Yeah, look.
It was way longer.
I didn't start this hump until later.
I mean, they're almost exactly the same.
Like, they're certainly in the ballpark.
Yeah, and this is not bad.
This is the orange one.
Well, look, you're negative two.
So you're de-locked in the clubface every single time now.
And you were positive 30 before, right?
So it's a wild amount of difference.
Okay.
And like you said, this is when you use it.
Like, okay, I want to see what happens when I feel this in my swing.
What happens to my hands?
Because at the end of the day, your hands control that clubface, and that clubface controls that golf ball.
So that's what really matters, right?
So when you make a change in your swing, and you're like, oh, I see that that made me do something wildly different with my hands.
Maybe that's not, I didn't understand what I was trying to do right.
Like, I need to figure out a different way to do it.
So that was a great way.
And you know it right away when you felt that, and then you felt like, oh, gosh, I didn't turn.
My arms swung a little bit more.
You lost control of the club.
And again, now you combine this with that Tiger Challenge.
Now, the sound is set up for the deviation right now.
Yep.
You can change it.
But how do I set it back so it's doing the extension then?
Can it do both at the same time?
Can't do both at the same time.
It can't?
Uh-uh.
So if you do audio feedback, it's going to give you a toggle back and forth.
Okay.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
So suctioning still, I'm working on that.
And then I have to go back to this.
Yep, exactly.
Yeah, and you'd have to change the ranges back.
So I don't remember what the ranges were.
Oh, so I'd have to literally change it back.
I don't remember it.
No, unfortunately not.
That's some good feedback for them, though.
We should do that.
I'm not worried about that at the moment.
I know that I know how to work it.
It's good that you went through this.
I probably might have trouble figuring it out.
Yeah, it's just a little app.
And then you have that thing.
Are you going to get one of those things?
I already bought it.
I bought it last week.
All right.
Yeah.
And if you can also, there's different, first of all, if you use it on an iPad, I don't know if you have an iPad, but you get a nice big display, and you can see a lot more stuff on the iPad if you want.
I do.
I have actually one that I can use specifically for this.
Perfect.
So you can also, we've just been, I just generally use the graph, but there's all sorts of stuff that you can do with this, okay?
So you can look at, you can look at it in a 2D perspective.
So as you move your hand around, you'll see it changing.
So it gives you an understanding, like this flexion extension, right?
And that's radial deviation.
So it's just measuring.
So you can see that, and you can also replay your last shot.
Okay.
So you can see.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah.
So I can still really see if I start going.
Exactly.
Yeah, you'll get.
You'll know exactly what you're doing with your hands.
And then if you come down here, you can see the data.
You can set this up to, like, it will score your practice sessions.
So it'll say, it gives you ranges to work within, and you can set those as well.
But you can say, like on the last shot, you were 7 degrees, 2 extended at address, I think, right?
So it works within these ranges, and you can see at impact, you were in a good spot, radial deviation.
You can see rotational speed, 1,800 degrees of rotation per second.
And you can compare that with Tour Pro data.
You'll see all of these backswing timing, tempo, all of this stuff.
So this stuff, once you kind of start getting into, like, spending more time with it, like, it'll show, like, backswing pace and tempo, like we've been working on with that Tiger Challenge drill, right?
You'll know right away, like, oh, my swing was way too slow.
And it's showing, like, only five one -hundredths of a second too slow on the downswing, and only two-tenths of a second too slow on the backswing.
So that's what it actually is now, so I'm just.
On that last shot.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And this is the goal.
The goal, this is how long it took you.
Okay.
You'll see your ratio is 4.
0.
Oh, I see the pluses.
The goal is zeros.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So you're close, but a little too slow on the backswing, thinking, right?
So, but it's saying perfect is giving you a perfect score.
A perfect ratio is 3.
0.
That means it takes your backswing three times as long to take as it does your downswing.
Almost every single Tour of Pro on the planet operates on a three-to-one ratio.
So you're like most golfers.
You're a little too slow going back.
So let's just try one with that Tiger Challenge Drill, and we'll watch and see if you can get it.
So what was it?
1.
13 on your backswing.
Yeah.
So you went way faster.
Now look at your ratio is 3.
3.
Okay.
Now let's get 3.
0.
We're in the range, right?
Like we're in the range.
That's still pretty good.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
There you go.
A little slower that time.
This is why this is important, right?
So you'll see like doing little things will delay your downswing quite a bit.
Yeah, it's okay.
It's still 3.
4.
Oh my God.
So it's always hard to get to three.
They're moving very quickly.
But again, the whole point of this, if you just start trying to swing your arms faster, it'll actually slow you down.
Okay.
If you move your body quicker and you move your wrists less, you will swing faster.
Oh, I didn't catch that one.
I think that was faster.
I think that was faster.
Okay.
Yeah.
So you're in the ballpark there.
This will just give you an idea of how quickly you need to move.
I don't think it caught that.
We've got to hit the ground a little more.
Yeah, I didn't catch it.
There it goes.
But this is going to help you a lot.
It's because it's going to all, I can see what's happening.
Like you're starting to swing your arms to start back instead of turning your body.
And that's always going to, I mean, just, it's going to slow you down, right?
Because now what happens is as you start swinging those arms back and they've got all that momentum, they want to keep going at the top.
And that's what's delaying you.
All right.
Yeah, 3.
4.
So you're closer, right?
That wasn't, that was better.
3.
3 is my best.
What's good about this is that you're starting to understand and have some tools to help you reinforce this, how quickly you need to move, right?
Like instead of thinking your way through a backswing and all, it just, it wrecks everything.
You've got to move fast.
And when you start moving fast, swing plane and all of those things start to take care of themselves.
Because you don't have time to throw the club off plane.
It's always just adding too much movement, incorrect movement with your arms and hands that throws everything off.
But when you think about how to move really quickly, The fastest way to complete your backswing and get it all done is just taking this left shoulder and going down and through.
That's as fast as you're going to be able to move.
See how little movement that is?
Hey, don't even try to move your arms.
Your arms are going to move more than you think.
Just go down with the shoulder and then, and get out of it.
Use that stretch to get you back going the other way.
There, there, exactly.
So you're just used to kind of wanting to do this and it slows you down.
And that's what you're going to see here.
But you're, what's frustrating about it is you're going to feel like you're moving really fast.
Cause your arms feel really quick, but they're just out of control, right?
The pros are all doing this.
Their arms are just staying in front of their body.
That's what they're trying to feel the whole time.
And if I'm not doing that, I can move way, way, way quicker.
So that's, what's going to help you starting to feel that left shoulder going down and clearing out of the way, instead of starting with your arms and hands, which is what you've been used to doing, right?
And I can just feel, I'm just trying to, every time I want to do a swing, I can feel myself tightening up.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm trying to loosen it up, but it's not necessarily easy.
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