Closed Hip Slide

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A closed hip slide is detrimental to your golf swing when learning how to shift your weight. Learn what a closed hip slide is and how to fix it in your golf downswing.


Many golfers struggle with getting their weight back to the left in the downswing.

And one of the things I want to talk about today is a common mistake when they're learning how to make a proper turn, going back and how to get back to the left.

And the most common mistake that I see for most golfers once they start, kind of getting this whole concept together is something we call a closed hip slide.

What I mean by that is, as you're at a dress, your hips are parallel to the target line we call that being square.

As you rotate back, your hips have got to rotate somewhere between 30 and 45 degrees during the backswing in order to allow you to make a full shoulder turn, which is critical for setting the club on plane.

So as you go back, your hips are now closed in relationship to the target line, and this, of course, would be open as your hips begin to face the target line.

What so many amateur golfers do is, as they make this turn going back, they know they don't want to spin their shoulders open.

So they start trying to kind of cheat it a little bit.

And hold their hips closed and then push off the right leg while the hips are still shut.

And that is happening while the club is coming down.

And so now, as I come into impact, my hips are very, very closed.

And now I've got to do something with my arms, hands and shoulders to get the club back out to the ball.

The reality is, you never, ever want to do a closed hip slide because it's going to change the path and plane of the club.

So what you do want to do is as you're going back, as your hips are closed, as you're still finishing your backswing.

Your weight is not only beginning to shift back to the left, but your hips are also beginning to unwind.

That's one of the first things that's going to happen.

You don't just shift or, excuse me.

Turn your hips back and then push off the right leg and slide, you shift and turn your hips back to square.

That's why there's a video on the site called Squat to Square that goes more in that move in detail.

So as you're going back, once you get your hips turned to the target and they're turned away from the target and they're closed.

Make sure that as you're shifting back to the left using this left side, that you're allowing your hips and belt buckle to open back up to the target.

And as you post up, that's when your hips get about 30 to 45 degrees open.

So the closed hip slide, it's a death move.

So make sure that you're not doing this, and make sure, as you're rotating back to the target and shifting back, that you're letting your hips open with you.

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Don
Craig, thanks for the swing review today. It's so easy to see it after it's explained. I'm a little unsure of sequencing. If I understand you, i'm going to slide over to the left hip neutral position to create room for my arms and then turn my hips to drop the club into the slot? And if I slide to the left how do I do that without pushing the right hip towards the left? Also, at impact are my hips square as in the belt buckle drill, or open? Sorry for the rapid fire questions. Thanks, Don Patten
July 2, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Don. You have to pull the weight with the lead side (Which Muscles to Feel in Golf Swing Transition Video). The trail hip will follow. You don't push with the trail to get to the lead side. At impact the shoulders will be square and hips open 35-45 degrees. The weight will move as the hips are turning. You have to make sure they are always rotating into the impact position. You won't get into perfectly neutral hip until post up.
July 3, 2020
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Lucas
The way I shift my weight to the left is by loading up on the right, and as long as my trail hip is inside of my trail heel, I just lightly lift my lead foot and kind of "fall" onto it. Its very effective to automatically shift my weight but it causes me to have exactly this closed hip slide. Would this be considered pushing from the right side and should i not do this? If i try to slowly pull my body over to the left using my left heel/leg, I can rotate while I shift, but I have no initial momentum working for me and this pulling (mostly me digging my heel into the ground and dragging my entire body over to my left) puts way to much stress on my knee. Have I misinterpreted this pulling from the lead side?
January 25, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lucas. You pull with the inner thigh adductors and not the knee (Preventing Hip Pain and Which Muscles to Feel in Golf Transition Videos). When we train players to start shifting weight we allow for the pick up of the lead foot (Weight Shift Sweep Drills). Ideally, you don't want to pick up the feet and if you are stressed when pulling weight something is amiss.
January 27, 2020
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Jackson
Hi Craig. When I starts my downswing, I slide. I do not do a closed hip slide, but my hips still slide toward the target a lot and this is bad. Also, my hips are almost 90 degrees open at impact and I don’t know how to fix this. And suggestions?
November 3, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jackson. Take a look at the Belt Buckle Drill to help slow down the hips. Also, Step 2 - Core Rotation. You need to master posting up the hips to 35-45 degrees and allowing the body to stall without the excessive hip spin. The slide is typically from pushing with your trail side leading the the hips getting too far ahead laterally. Take a look at Preventing Hip Pain. Make sure you are pulling the weight over correctly.
November 3, 2019
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Jackson
Thanks for the feedback Craig. Can you explain what you mean by pushing with the right side causes me to slide?
November 3, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jackson. You will see that in the Preventing Hip Pain Video. However, if your right hip is pushing in the transition. The hips will tend to push and drive beyond Neutral Joint Alignment on the left side. Weight needs to get pulled in the downswing and not pushed. Take a look at Which Muscles to Use in Golf Swing Transition Video.
November 3, 2019
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Michal
Hi, I don't exactly understand the relationship between loading right hip/right glute and pulling from lead leg (left in my case) respectively not to push from my (loaded) right hip/glute. I thought that the purpose of loading right hip/glute is to store power for shift and rotate forward. I am confused. Could you kindly explain? Thanks
September 15, 2019
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Mikko-Pekka
Hello Michal. There was a video answering your question but I wasn't able to find it. However here is an article about it: https://rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfbiomechanics/right-leg-in-the-golf-swing .
September 15, 2019
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Anders
When i look at the one of the model swings (last on in the list), to me, it looks like Chuck has a slight closed hip slide combined with the squat before his lower body starts rotating, is that correct?
September 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Anders. It may appear the way, but when you start shifting to the lead side the hips must rotate. You chance getting out of sequence, sliding, or getting out ahead of the ball if you don't.
September 9, 2019
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Rick
How do I get my hips to open in the downswing, while keeping my back to the target (for as long as I can) at the same time? As soon as I begin to shift/rotate my hips, my right shoulder wants to come around.
July 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rick. The pull from the weight shift and hips will bring the shoulders around. The goal is to have the shoulders pulled and not actively rotating them. Combine Keep the Rear Shoulder Back and Step 2 - Core Rotation Drill. You will start to feel how the lower half pulls the shoulders into impact. They will have to move, but not actively.
July 30, 2019
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Ross
An interesting and possibly under-rated video. I thought I had solved sliding past neutral on the downswing in general and this particular fault in particular until I saw a video from behind my back. Sure enough I was sliding nearly all the way to neutral before there was any sign of hip rotation. The most interesting part was that this shows up so much more clearly in the rear view than in the front view. No wonder I have been struggling to get my hips 30* open at impact.
June 30, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ross. I agree. Very important video. Glad you found it helpful to cure your sliding issue.
July 1, 2019
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Alden
What do you think about a slightly close stance at Address I really helps me transition clear the hips and strike more pure shots consistently
May 31, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alden. I don't mind slightly closed with a driver. But, with an iron it seems like it could cause an issue. So, when you close your stance at address your hips actually open up better in the downswing?
May 31, 2019
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Alden
No from that perspective it does not help but it’s not getting them open that I struggled with it was getting the arms through. And the face square even with a strong grip. I feel so much more stable in transition with just a slightly closed stance and more confident in my strike point.
May 31, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alden. Hmmm. Sounds like it is a compensation though to fix an issue. If your face isn't squaring even with a strong grip. Do you mind if I ask do you tend to come over plane, or under plane?
May 31, 2019
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Alden
Probably is a compensation. Mostly it was over but the larger problem was consistency in the solid strike on the face. With my right foot 6 inches back It feels easier to concentrate on pulling from the left and I feel like I have just a half second more to let the arms lag to get to the post up.
May 31, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alden. Sounds like dropping the trail foot back is allowing you to come more from the inside on the way down. It is actually a drill in some instruction circles. I would work really hard on Keep the Rear Shoulder Back and How to Fix Plane and Path Video to correct the plane issue without the compensation.
May 31, 2019
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Alden
Your exactly right about the coming fro The inside. I will check out the video. Thanks
May 31, 2019
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Ross
The sequencing of this video in the weight shift section is interesting. My question is where the hips will ideally be laterally when they are back to square. Will they be back were they were at address with the left hip about an inch inside neutral joint alignment and the right hip about three inches inside neutral joint alignment?
May 23, 2019
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Your weight shift will be completed by time the squat to square is complete. The weight will be over the left ankle and we'll be squatting into that left glute to load it up for power when we post up coming into contact. These moves happen quickly in the downswing so they appear to happen simultaneously, however, the shift to the left side needs to start before the squat to square can.
May 23, 2019
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Ross
Thanks RJ. So the hips get back to square at around the same time as the weight gets over the left ankle? Or does the weight get over the left ankle first while the hips are still say 5* to 10* closed?
May 23, 2019
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
weight shift starts first but they finish at about the same time, the weight shift isn't as quick of a move as rotating the hips are. The point of squatting is to load weight into the left glute, the weight has to be shifted to the left side in order for that to take place.
May 23, 2019
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Douglas
Oh, yeah! I have done this many times. Now I have a better understanding about what needs to be done here. Thanks a million.
May 14, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Douglas. Great. Glad you liked the presentation.
May 15, 2019
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Ron
I never could get my weight over enough to the left side so this video was good for me in that I found out my hips were remaining closed after checking it out on video. I'm going to check out the squat to square video now but I do have one question. Should I try to shift my weight to my lead heal as I am squatting in the downswing?
January 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ron. Great. Yes, you are shifting into the lead glute feeling the pressure into the lead heel/center of ankle joint.
January 16, 2019
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Steven
When I turn my hips 30-40 degrees to the right on the backswing it seems that my backswing gets too long and the club gets parallel to the ground or slightly more. How can I get a full hip turn but limit the length of the backswing?
July 19, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steven. That much hip turn shouldn't cause overswining. Sounds like a trail arm issue. 3 Functions to the Right Arm and Stop Overswinging Video.
July 20, 2018
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Steven
Got it. Thanks, Craig.
July 20, 2018
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Joe
I purchased access to your program but do not know how to begin to open your site
June 17, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Joe. Are you having trouble logging in?
June 18, 2018
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Stephen
I had a similar question, it sounds like the question is "how to best use the site". I found at first it's a bit confusing if you go through the dashboard videos by the numbers, there are drills that are interspersed in the "RST Foundation" section but if you are starting out, you want to do the drills in the "RST 5 Step" section to master the basics. If Joe is able to comment, I would imagine he is logged in.
July 10, 2018
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John
The closed hip slide video is inconsistent with swinging from the ground up, squat to square and right arm release videos in that the hip slide video talks about the hips being open at impact and the other videos talk about the hips being square to the target line at impact. Need to know which is correct. Thanks.
June 14, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. The closed hip slide is an error in the swing. The information isn't inconsistent with the other videos mentioned above. The goal at impact is 35-45 degrees open at impact. For example: Squat to Square is halfway down and not impact. To squat to square you have to shy away from a closed hips slide. I will be happy to answer where you think the inconsistency issues are. I apologize if one of the videos confused the issue for you.
June 14, 2018
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John
Thank you for the clarification.
June 14, 2018
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VENKAT
Chuck, this is most helpful and the timing is perfect, as I have been struggling with this lately. Cant wait to get back to the range to try your suggestions. By the way, your videos and your unique approach to analyzing and guiding amateurs like me to improve golf swing has dramatically improved my game. Thanks!
June 14, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Venkat. Love it. Much appreciative of the compliments.
June 14, 2018
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Martin L
Very useful. Exactly what I have been doing.
June 13, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Martin. Great. Get to work on those hips.
June 13, 2018
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rick
This video has me confused. I thought the weight transfer was used to add lag and occurred with the hips closed. Once my weight is moved to my left leg, I engage the glute and mash my left heel into the ground thus rotating my hips to open whipping the club through, no?
June 12, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rick. The post up will open the hips at impact and trigger the release. However, as you shift weight to start the transition/create lag the hips will have to rotate. Take a look at Fixing Your Weight Transfer and Squat to Square.
June 12, 2018
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Greg
So am I to take away from this video the idea that the hips start the downswing? Does the weight shift then hips follow, then shoulders/arms/hands?
June 12, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Greg. As you shift the weight the hips will start to rotate. Yes, your sequence sounds correct. A good visual would be Step 2 - Core Rotation and Step 3 - Add the Lead Arm.
June 12, 2018
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bob
So my problem is partly this as I rotate to square with the hips but don't get them open through impact and it obviously costs me power as I lose the tush line and release the right hand early and stand up through impact. What drill would you recommend to cure this?
June 12, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Bob. You Hit the Golf Ball with Your Legs and Step 2 - Core Rotation.
June 12, 2018
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David
This makes so much sense to me and I now realize why I have always had trouble shifting my weight as my right hip is definitely closed when I start my downswing. I can't wait to get out to the range and try this. Your advice has been invaluable to me as I am returning to golf this year after missing all of last year with back surgery and hip replacement surgery. You have made me realize that many of my physical problems were caused by incorrect swing patterns that were never discovered with many lessons from club pros who usually say "do this" without explaining why (probably because they don't know why). You have a way of explaining things that make perfect sense and are counter to "conventional wisdom". Please keep up the good work. You are really making a difference for many of us. By the way, I will be 77 years old this week and playing the best golf of my life after taking up the game only 10 years ago. Keeping it simple is the best way to learn.
June 12, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello David. Awesome post. Very happy you are enjoying the content and much appreciative of the compliments.
June 12, 2018
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Steve
Hi Ive had a bad right hip for the past few weeks and i suspect ive been doing this in an effort to stop coming over the top. Its interesting in the video how this makes coming over the top worse! Thanks.
May 15, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Steve. Glad you enjoyed the video.
May 15, 2018

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