Q-n-A Webinar 1: May 7

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Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, first webinar, May 7th 2025


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Welcome to the first live Q &A session.

I will be your humble swing guide today, RST instructor Craig Morrow, and thank you for sharing your time with me today.

I know 7 o 'clock on the East Coast might be pushing it a little bit, but at least lets our West Coast people kind of jump in.

So you're going to see me kind of bounce back and forth a little bit between here and the monitor just because I can't see it from where I am.

And I'm going to let people sneak in the room here because I'm watching the ticker right now.

getting higher and higher, so I'm going to let people kind of sneak in the room.

But as people are sneaking in the room, I want to go ahead and start to lay some groundwork of what we're doing here.

So these sessions, it's Q &A.

It's for you guys.

We want you all to know exactly how to swing the way that you want to swing as you're going through the goat code process.

So I was getting kind of concerned because when we first put this out, Nobody was giving me any feedback.

And I'm like, well, I guess everybody knows exactly how to swing the club.

They don't need me anymore.

But today, a lot of questions finally started popping in.

And so what I'm going to do when this session is done, I'm going to put another post on the community for next week's.

And in that, I want you to tell me, what do you want to talk about? What do you want to discuss? Some things may be discussed today.

I'm going to use this format today, kind of like a radio host.

You call in, got a question, I'm going to give you some advice.

So I wrote down almost every question that I had sent in.

I might not be able to cover them all, but that's why these sessions are going to go out through this month and throughout next month.

So if I don't get to your question, if you were kind enough to go to the community.

and let me know kind of what you're thinking and what's going on and i don't get to you tonight i will get to you i promise um we just got a long way to go to get there because i got some really good questions coming in that i think people are really gonna kind of see the forest of the trees with today because i really want to kind of simplify some things i'm going to give just about one more minute to get in there hey richard how you doing today steven howdy doug howdy Hoping we're still all good.

Room's getting bigger.

So I think people are either getting home from work or getting on.

But still, thank you again for joining up.

And I'm going to kind of go in the list.

I'm going to start with the very first question that I saw.

And if I get through this list, then I'm going to open up the forum.

I'm going to say, hey, we got through the list.

Everybody's happy with it.

We'll throw in some more.

But like I said, At the end of this, I'm going to put another post on the community for next week.

If I didn't answer your question, put it there.

Now, there's a couple topics that Chuck and I are discussing on the back end from the questions that were like, hey, this actually wouldn't be good for a Q &A.

It actually would be good for a whole session.

So some of these that you sent in, you may not get today, but it's because we actually looked at it and we're like, hey, this is actually a great hour discussion topic.

So we'll get everybody covered.

Don't worry.

All right.

Garrett, howdy.

Hi, Craig.

Just joined Rotary Swing.

Excited.

Fantastic.

Camera seems reversed.

Let's see if we can figure that out.

Does it look like I'm a right-handed swinger or a left-handed swinger? Lefty.

Uh-oh.

Well, that's not good.

Why did this flip on me? Let's see if I can.

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Let's try this.

Am I the right side now? Not that I look any better from the left side or the right.

All right, perfect.

Okay, so we're going to go ahead and get started so everybody can.

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uh get some things going and i saw a question uh from david what are the deferred question for a full session oh david don't you i saw that some of your question is a deferred one i knew you were gonna ask that i'll get to some of yours all right it should be enough for you i'll get to some of yours uh but some of yours is deferred because you asked a very technical question so you'll see i got this sheet right here All this is, is just what I took from the community.

So I just copied them and said, all right, that's going to be where I start.

So when I grabbed this, that's all this is right here.

So the first question that I saw, and I know this may not be a very popular topic, but I know people get confused on these things because they were never taught it.

So the first question, I'm not going to call out any names other than David, is in -depth alignment.

As in, how can you ensure that you're indeed aligned at the target? I know the old jack trick of intermediate target, but I find myself getting aligned too far to the right, right-handed golfer.

And then, of course, make all sort of swing compensations from there.

So let's talk a little bit about alignment.

Now, as some of you may or may not know, clubface is 85 % of initial ball flight.

So clubface is the king when it comes.

to what we need to do with alignment right here so when you're starting to align things the one thing you have to understand is that your body and your feet are typically going to lie to you what i like to do is i actually like to take the alignment rod or club and use the back of my feet okay so when i set up right here and i get into position sometimes i'll have a splay in my lead foot now when i start splaying my foot what that's going to tend to do is it's going to tend to make my feet and my body line look like i'm aiming a little bit more to the left but if i use the back of my feet right here this is going to ensure that when i start to put the club down that i'm aligning it a little bit more to my body so when you're starting to really kind of set up your station i want you to really put a little bit of focus on not trying to get it perfectly in front of your feet because when you line up If you're a person that tends to have a little bit of splay, if I splay my lead foot right now, look at this club.

You see how this club's pointed a little bit more to this direction? So use a little bit more of the back of your feet to try to get a line.

Now, this is kind of the toughie as I was talking about with the clubface angle.

Jack talked about an intermediate target.

I like an intermediate target because I really want to make sure that that clubface is kind of going where I want it to go.

My routine when I'm getting into a shot is I first stand behind it and I find this intermediate target, whether it be a foot in front of the ball.

I'll put a ball right here so we can kind of see it.

And I'm going to use this little weight as like an intermediate target.

So I'm going to find an intermediate target in between where I'm trying to go and on the ground.

So as I'm getting set up to here, how I like to do it, especially goat code being in trail side control.

I like to take my trail arm in hand first and I kind of start in this open position.

I don't like to get my body set and then try to do the club face.

I like to get my club set on that intermediate target line.

So now I get my club face squared up right to that intermediate target line.

I don't have to worry about going crazily down the fairway or anything.

I know I'm square to here.

And now if you look at my trail foot.

when i bring my trail foot in my trail foot's kind of perpendicular to this club so as i start to set into position i can know that this foot right here and this club face are all pretty much on my line and if i use this club or an alignment rod behind me i can really make sure that i kind of stay on that but i don't want you to because this is something that i see a ton of is that players set up and they're like all right i'm going to get I'm going to get my body set up here, my shoulders like this.

All right, let me get my club now.

But they don't have any kind of frame of reference because as they start to look down and you're seeing lines and circles and everything going this way, well, now you're all discombobulated.

So my two big kind of tips for this is one.

Use the back of your feet for alignment when you're setting up your station, not the front of your feet, especially if you're a person that tends to display.

The second thing is, is after you find an intermediate target, I want you to develop a routine to get aligned.

I want you to get your trail arm in hand, get into position, get this lined up on your spot.

You can get your trail foot kind of perpendicular so it can really help with your body.

Use the back of the feet, and that's going to help you get into that spot every single time.

All right.

Number two.

In discussion of supination, Chuck talks about kicking back on plane if you supinate properly.

I hope Chuck will cover this point in more detail in another webinar, as it's something that I personally have struggled with when I supinate.

It feels like the club gets too far under plane.

Now, this is a pretty good one right here.

When we think of conveyor belt or supination, we obviously can see that as the club starts to pitch this way, that the club's starting to shallow out and swing out a little bit to the right.

So I'm taking that question as, well, Craig, I'm getting the supination part, but as I'm getting supination, I'm getting too far under plane, and I'm starting to get into this position.

where I'm starting to maybe hit a couple drop kicks, or I'm starting to really shoot the ball way out to the right and hook it back.

Well, what's really going to balance out this plane for us? If you truly did set up and you got up here and you just supinated, all right, and you just went like this and you just did your arms and did a big, massive supination, you can see my swing plane right now.

It's super in to out.

Like even with my wrist going into extension, my lead wrist or my trail wrist, my lead wrist going into flexion right here, like it's still kind of super into out.

You're not going to get stuck under plane if you move your body.

And that's typically what I see when players start kind of getting that too big into out path is they take the notion of supination and they forget that other stuff has to move because we really don't have an arm swing in the golf swing.

And so how does this kick back on the plane? Well, as I swing up here towards the top and I start to supinate, what's happening? Now, I'm going to get into a little bit more detail on this question later.

But as this club's supinating and my trail shoulder is getting connected and my core and my hip are starting to drive and starting to move towards the target, what's my lead hip starting to do right now? Well, my lead hip is actually starting to rotate.

It's actually starting to move back and away from me right here.

It's not only the wrist going into extension, the trail wrist, and the lead wrist going into flexion, but it's also the fact that my body rotation, because I'm not swinging my arms and hands, is starting to zero out my plan and path.

If I got to here and I just quit all my body, then more than likely I'm just going to flip and swing it from the inside.

So if you're having a tendency to get stuck under plane, more than likely you're just using your arms trying to get this big supination.

And you're forgetting the fact that the core has to pivot through.

If you watch, no matter how hard I make this supinate this way.

All right.

So I'm going to I'm going to really get this going crazy.

But if I get that going crazy and I'm driving my body, look at the position I'm in.

I didn't create that.

That wasn't me just like trying to get this on the toe line.

it's because the forces of my wrist going back on itself this wrist starting to go into flexion and my hip and my body moving into side bend and pivoting out of the way that's going to be what kind of zeros out that plane right there so if you're getting stuck supinating under plane more than likely all you're doing is you're just getting back here you're getting the supination and you're just doing it with your arms.

You can see like with right there, I almost hit that golf club because all I was doing was just staying back and doing it with my arms.

Well, as I go through here, if I supinate and I'm starting to drive really hard, getting into side bend, getting into this position right here, my hip clearing out of the way, this is what's starting to bring me around to zero out my path.

See, watch that right there.

If I do that same thing, and I let this go excessively, watch what happens as I start to rotate my body right here.

I start to pivot that hip out of the way.

What's the club doing? The club's back in front of me.

And now, I mean, look at the size of my release.

It's very tiny.

I don't have to do anything to get this club face to square.

I can release it kind of as hard as I want from right there.

So getting stuck under playing, make sure you are still using your body and you're not just trying to do it with your arm and hand.

Supination alone by itself, it's kind of pointless.

All right, let's see.

Number three, I'm tall and lanky and have a very hard time getting to GDP on my full swing.

My wrists usually release much sooner.

So that's going to be the risk pushing and firing, probably pushing from that trail shoulder, trail arm a little bit too much.

What training exercises or method can you suggest to help me hold my release back? Well, there's a ton of different things that you can do.

Because, you know, on the site, we've got a million different videos.

But I'm going to tell you one of my favorite ones.

And any of my students and, you know, my unlimited group or people have come to see me for lessons or anything like that.

You have to get the feeling of how little your arms and hands really need to work.

And that's what this does.

Okay.

I saw a message pop up.

Just want to make sure.

Okay.

So that's what this does.

Okay.

Is this gets you to kind of feel what you need to be doing in the swing.

If you're releasing it early.

Okay.

So if you're on GDP in the full swing and you're releasing it too soon, you're starting to pronate, right? Because it feels powerful to you.

to take this shoulder, to take this arm, to start to pronate.

That's what everybody thinks power is versus actually kind of moving away from it.

The best thing to do is to realize that you're not getting power from your arms.

You get power in how you're using your body in the snap of the wrist.

You're not really getting it from your arms.

So you have to feel kind of how to turn it off.

And that's why this is the best way to do it.

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a two-handed medicine ball, and you can do this with anything, but what I want you to really do is kind of start doing this dynamically.

You can feel your way through the positions where you're loading and rotating, but watch what happens for me to get into GDP right here.

Notice how I have to keep my trail elbow pit, my trail palm, my trail hand facing away from me, okay? If you're pronating this way, You're trying to create power with your arms, okay? I don't want you to try to create power with the arms.

The arms are kind of weak.

They don't really do a whole bunch with this.

What I need you to do is take this position from the top and get you to start to feel how moving your core and leaving your arm in this supinated position gets you to GDP.

This is where we start to talk about how we get in the side bin.

Now the hips start to pivot out of the way.

But early pronation is just push.

That's all it is.

You're trying to power it by push.

And what you've got to start to get a feel for, and I want you to kind of do it a little dynamic.

I don't want you to sit here and kind of make this look.

This is one of my pet peeves and one of Chuck's pet peeves.

People start doing drills and doing this, but they don't move.

This is a movement.

It's dynamic.

You can't do these things in slow motion.

There's a time and place for slow motion.

But not in this one.

What I want you to do is take this and move through here and pivot into here.

So you see how if you can start to get used to, wait a minute.

My arm really doesn't have to do a whole bunch of anything to here.

I haven't even moved it, to be honest with you.

I've let it swing up and down.

You need to start to get comfortable with this position.

but you're not comfortable with it because you think that this is power.

As soon as you start doing it with an object like this and feeling this way, you're going to start to feel two things.

You're going to feel some lengthening as you go back here, and then you're going to feel some crunching.

And as you start to crunch right there, you're going to realize, well, as I start to crunch and I'm moving to side bend, that's whipping my arm down right here.

I don't have to do anything with my arm.

See how that's bringing me down? It's not me trying to motor it.

It's literally just leaving it here, supinating and moving in the side bend.

That's going to be where you get your juice from.

So if you're struggling with that early pronation, the two things I would do is I would get the medicine ball out and do it dynamic to that position and feel when I lengthen and when I crunch, well, I haven't had to use my arm yet.

How am I going to release this early? If I'm up here at the top, now I pivot into here.

How is this going to be released early if I don't use it? I mean, I don't know how.

The only way it's going to be released early is because you're trying to use it, and you have to feel what you're moving body-wise to not use your arm and hand.

Let's see.

Can we talk about tempo? Yeah, we can talk about that in a review.

But, Darrell, it's typically three to one, just to answer your question.

My club face is not getting to the ground.

I tend to fan it, offer some suggestions.

We'll get to that, Peter.

But I'm going to get to my list of the ones that sent it in.

Because in the last webinar, we kind of got caught talking about the hands.

And then we had this whole string of questions coming in.

And that's why we want you to post into the community.

So that I can make sure that we get everybody answered.

I don't want any man or woman left behind.

All right.

So I'm going to get the ones that are sent in.

And if we get through this, I'll come back to you.

But yes, Daryl, it's typically about a three to one ratio.

Roy's is actually just the tiniest bit faster.

Let's see.

Number four was I'm slightly pulling shots.

Now, this one came in before the last one.

But it's why I wanted to do that first.

What is going to be really causing the pull? Like what is going to cause the pull? I said this earlier about the clubface angle, is that if the clubface angle is 85 % of initial ball flight, well, that means that at some point in time as I'm getting down here, this clubface is starting to turn left too soon.

Now, I know there's some people in there that are going to get into gear effect and all that, but let's just keep it for simple demonstration purposes.

is that if I'm causing a pull, something with this club face is starting to go to the left too soon and getting that ball to go that way.

It goes back to the same thing that I just talked about.

You're pushing, literally.

All you're doing is that as you're starting to get down, you're pushing with this side, which is typically going to start to steepen the plane, get the shoulders spinning open, and this club rotating over.

Now, this goes into, if you've watched, you know the majors or anything like that you can see bryson doing this all the time you'll see him he kind of gets his left arm and he kind of presets it and he gets it into this position he talks about all the time like i've got to keep this lead elbow pointing down the target line right here like that's his big thing like i got to keep that right there as i start to work into impact well that's actually a really good kind of thought or feel for people that are pulling it because if you're working down into impact This lead shoulder is going to be in a little bit of protraction right here.

And if this lead elbow is still going down the target line and you start pushing, look at my arm right now.

What is my arm having to do? See how my arm's having to get out of the way? But if this stays a little bit in protraction as I'm working through there and this elbow pits pointed down the target line, how is this club face going to get? I mean, that's a chore for me right now to get in here.

So if you're really pulling the shot, it goes back to the same problem as the gentleman from earlier.

All you're doing is pushing.

So focus first on getting into GDP.

And then when you're down here, not taking this lead shoulder, lead arm and hand, and trying to motor it this way.

Feel like that lead elbow pit, this button in the club is staying kind of down that target line as you're getting into position right here.

Look at the club face.

Club face is not even close.

to be enclosed.

And that should help you stay on that path that way, keep that club face from shutting down too soon.

All right.

Moving on through here.

What do we got? Make sure.

Oh, that's okay, Daryl.

No worries.

We'll still get to everybody.

Number five.

I'm confused about the release and the throwing of the club head at the ball.

Okay, this is a good one.

On the one hand, we're told means to let it go, whereas throw implies make it go.

Is this basically the difference in a lead side and trail side swing? If not, how do I let it go and make it go at the same time? That would be kind of a conundrum, and that's a really good question.

That's a really good question.

All right.

The let it go and make it go.

Well, letting it go definitely signifies I'm not doing anything.

So we typically use the kind of letting it go in a lead side based pattern.

So if you're using your lead arm in hand to release the club, we typically talk about how you need a lot of rotation from your hip to kind of sling the club.

and you're just kind of letting physics just kind of do the job right here all right so as i'm going through here like literally because i've done five million of these i can literally sit here and hit balls all day long like that if i try to motor with my lead arm in hand in a lead side pattern i'm dead like literally you can't try to control the club or rotate the hand i'm literally trying to get down here and make sure that my wrist just gets into a little bit of flexion and to me kind of feels like the knuckles are just kind of scraping against the ground like this but i'm using my hip to kind of sling this in and i'm letting it go now does that mean that the release in a trail side pattern is making it though kind of yeah what does this snap mean like if i'm getting here and i'm going to snap the club I'm using my body.

I'm using acceleration, deceleration, all this.

But I've got my pressure right here.

I'm feeling the supination.

What is a snap? Like I'm putting some effort into that.

Like I'm snapping this club.

So in a trail side pattern, that's why one of the big things, the grip is so important, especially getting this pressure points right in this middle finger.

is because as you start to move throughout the swing, you actually have some control in this.

The wrists aren't going to really set a whole bunch.

They're really not going to do a whole bunch.

And then just like in the hands webinar where Chuck was talking about, some baseball players kind of almost feel like they have a button right here, but they can do that to kind of feel the supination.

But if I'm going to do something with force, I'm going to have some control over this.

I'm giving up to the golf gods to kind of let this release.

but it's not like this i'm not just like i'm not all loosey-goosey if you get too loosey-goosey as in like dead you can't control a trail side pattern the grip is there for a purpose and when i'm starting to snap like i'm putting some force into it like i'm making that happen this one i'm just kind of letting it But I want to feel.

That's why as you start to get down here, you can really feel kind of finessing it with that hand.

Because you are, in a sense, throwing it.

I mean, just think about, you should have one around here somewhere.

I mean, I've got that Braves tomahawk over there.

You'd think I'd have a baseball down here.

Think about a baseball.

You're still releasing it as you're throwing it, but you're still doing something.

you're still you're in still kind of control of that okay so it's not like you're trying to force it for power i think that's where people when they think like to make it that's where they get messed up is because i'm not trying to get it i'm not trying to make it happen with speed this way that's not what i'm trying to do i'm trying to stay away from it literally as long as i can and then at the last moment after i get done with all my pivoting and all my fun stuff make it snap but i'm getting that feedback from my hand getting that feedback from there i can feel that i'm making that happen just a little bit i'm still kind of letting it go but i'm still kind of got some control in there all right so hopefully that kind of answers it it may not But you've got a lot more control and feedback that you can kind of make with this club right here than you do in the other version.

Number six, as we get older, good posture is more difficult.

I agree.

That's even before you get crazy old, even at my age.

So how important is good posture to the swing? It's pretty darn important.

Is it mostly for power or direction? Both.

I feel it has more to do with direction accuracy.

It has a big thing to do with direction accuracy, but it also has a big thing to do with your power.

Because let's think about this, all right? So I could get into all the bells and whistles about how when you set up and when you start to get into neutral joint alignment, getting your spine in neutral and opening up the facet joints to facilitate rotation and all that, but we kind of.

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Don't think about it in the traditional sense anymore, and I don't want to bore you to pieces.

But posture-wise, why is this so important? I understand that some people are kind of limited.

I mean, you can even see with me standing right here, I'm starting to get even a little bit of kyphosis from doing swing reviews all day.

But posture is of the utmost importance because you don't really rotate in the golf swing.

It's a blend.

of kind of rotation side bend and extension so let's take my backswing for instance as i start to set up right here the backswing is going to be a blend of me rotating moving into side bend and moving into extension it's not kind of like the traditional feel yourself here feel yourself here it's technically me just kind of getting back into extension right here now if you have the tendency to be really lazy with your posture And when you get set up and you kind of get this kind of rounded back, like you got your five iron out and you got this rounded back.

What do you think I'm probably going to see first? What do you think is the first thing that I'm going to see? You're going to set up with this rounded back.

And the very first thing I'm going to see is you start to try to turn and your head goes off the golf ball.

Because as you start to try to turn from this position, when your spine is in flexion, your head's got to go with it.

Unless you're going to do something funky.

and kind of try to get into this position with a reverse hip shift this way.

So posture is of the utmost importance.

Now, I understand people are limited, but as we make our backswing, we're going into rotation, side bend, and extension right here.

If you're in a slouched position, A, your head's going to typically move off the ball, okay? And so you're going to tend to have this kind of lazy back and forth motion like this.

B, What about the scapula? For those that have been with rotary swing forever, you understand how important the scapular movement is.

Well, if I'm really slouched right here, what's going to tend to happen is I'm going to start to go back and I'm going to be like, wait a minute, Chuck told me it's shoulder blade glide and I got to get this back.

And then I'm going to tend to try to get my shoulder engaged now.

So now not only has my head gone off the golf ball, you probably can't see it, but now my shoulder blade's already locked.

But I've already locked my shoulder blade on the backswing.

It's going to be really hard for me to get proper supination and shallow and into GDP if I've already wrenched my shoulder blade back right here, because right now the only direction it wants to go is back out.

And so when you think of trying to get into this good posture, we've used the same trick forever.

I even used it on a swing review yesterday.

Or you can take the club, put it on your back right here, put one head on your head, one on your lumbar spine right here, and then kind of hinge from the hips, and that'll really kind of help you try to get that as flat as possible.

But if you do that as much as you can to a point, obviously living in flexibility or if you have some spinal issues.

What I want you to kind of consider, though, I want you to go to the goat backswing video.

And the reason I want you to go to the goat backswing video, because if you're struggling with this kind of roundness, you really got to try to feel where your shoulder blades need to be positioned.

Okay.

And so what I mean by that is as I'm in setup right here, and I'm not trying to show you, you know, fanny view, but I kind of have to.

As you get into position right here, your shoulder blades, as I start to go back, are actually going to kind of go up a little bit right here.

all right so that as i start to come down they can kind of depress and get into position as i'm starting to shallow out the club so i want you to play around with that setup if you have a little bit around this and you're like craig i i can't do anything more than this try to keep your head on the horizon as much as you can i don't want you to shrug up all right i want you to get a feel for just lifting your shoulder blades just a little bit as much as you can, so that as you start to get into these positions, you can try to get into extension as best as you can, but what that'll do is that'll really help that, I call it kind of a heave-ho, but it'll really help that heave of getting this back by here, getting your shoulder kind of behind your head over here, because when you tend to get slouch like this, you tend to move too much inflection with the head, and this stays really down and depressed because you're trying to rotate.

And that's kind of the only thing you can move from that position.

And then the problem is, is the only thing you can do now coming down is come back out this way.

Okay? So that's what I would do.

I'd go to that goat backswing video.

I'd try to get as flat as possible.

And I'd really start trying to feel my shoulder blades so that they can move to the positions as much as they can.

So when I get up here, I can get into my extension, lordosis, all the little bells and whatnots.

All right.

Just want to make sure there's nothing else popping up.

So hopefully that helps.

And maybe I should start doing this like Casey Kasem.

I don't want to call anybody out, but maybe in like Rick G or somebody, this is what they called in.

All right.

Next question.

Craig, during the webinar, please discuss arm speed as it relates to hand speed.

I understand Chuck emphasizes hand speed and not using the arms to throw the club.

So you kind of answered your own question.

So help me understand how fast the arms, trail arm in particular, should be going and how to get the arms moving at the correct speed and ultimately release and throw at max speed.

We're not really using our arms.

And this is, I'm not going to get philosophical on you, but there's a reason why we break down everything because we want to get down to what kind of really matters.

So when you're thinking about arm speed and hand speed, how are you going to control, all right, I'm going to try to take my elbow and make my elbow speed be fast.

But then once I make my elbow speed be fast, I'm going to now focus on trying to get my wrist speed to be fast.

I'm going to try to make all, I'm going to think all this in a half a second.

You really can't do that.

The arms really don't do anything.

All right.

So this is kind of how I want you to think about arm speed or how I want you to think about what your arms are really doing right here.

As I get set up right here and I get into position, I'm going to kind of get this tricep extended and I'm going to get a lot of width right here.

And I'm going to start to make my movement back up here towards the top, keeping my width, trying to kind of maximize.

Now, as I move from here, making my supination with my arm and hand, I don't want you to think like, okay, well, I want to have good arm speed.

Shove my elbow in front of my body.

That's not going to work.

All right, this is a position that's never gonna work.

When you get into this spot right here, what's kind of the first thing that really happens right here? I'm in extension, got a little bit of lordosis right here, and I'm starting to get my shoulder blade to depress.

And as my shoulder blade depresses, when I'm getting in here, it locks it into position now so that as I move into side bend, you see how my arm is moving relative? to how fast I'm moving my core.

So I'm not trying to shove my arm here.

I'm not trying to speed up my arm.

What I'm trying to do is take the arm out of the equation.

I'm trying to focus on the supination of my wrist and my forearm, letting my arm kind of get into that little bit of external right there.

But I'm trying to focus on the connection of not using my arm.

I'm not trying to speed this up.

I want my wrist to be able to snap and have power.

I'm not trying to motor it with my arms.

If I try to do something with my arms, what more than likely is going to happen? I'm going to push.

I'm going to get here.

I'm going to start pushing this way.

I'm going to start steepening the pitch of the shaft.

Who knows? A million different things can happen.

But I don't want you to think, all right, well, I'm going to get.

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my arm speed trying to match my hand speed or i'm going to try to get my hip that's not how it works this motion right here as i make this as my trail shoulder blade starts to drop into position as i start to move back right here well now this has kind of created this linkage to my core and so now as i'm dynamic with my crunch it's my crunch that's taking care of my whole arm motion right here i'm not doing anything i'm not firing this tricep this bicep i can feel is engaged and holding it i'm trying to do nothing with this i'm here i'm feeling supination pivoting pivoting so i'm not i don't want you to try to motor the arm there's you're not trying to create speed with this this is just kind of the connecting tool it's going to be the snap and how you're moving your body but your arm speed is your side bend right here it's your crunch It's connected to it.

I sit here and do this all I can do this the next 15 minutes if you wanted me to But that's because it's now linked my core movements think like if I'm a robot My core movement Is taking care of my arms right now.

See that see how my arms are moving relative with my core So now as I get here and I get into my crunch and side bend My arm it's not because I'm trying to motor this I'm trying to not use it and have it be moved by me moving into side bed.

Okay? So hopefully that helps it a little bit.

All right.

In some of the videos, webinars, you mentioned shifting, pressure at the top.

by a subtle motion of sitting into the left side.

So you could think of like the old school lead side RST.

We even had a video called getting up here, sitting into the left side.

In the fascia webinar, you mentioned that Tiger does not do that.

Can you clarify how pressure shifts during the transition? Is it purely the right shoulder moving the left hip or a subtle shift into the left at the top and then the right shoulder moving down? Well, it's more the latter.

You shouldn't, if you're moving correctly, you shouldn't have to try to get your pressure back to this side.

Now, I just move my pressure and my weight, two different topics.

But as I get to here, I shouldn't have to try to make this happen, to try to move this mass over here.

As I'm getting into the backswing, so we're talking a second ago, if I'm using my core, And my trail shoulder starts to get up right here.

I'm moving into extension and I'm moving into lordosis right here.

And I get into position.

As I'm finishing my turn, as long as I didn't kick this way, as long as I didn't do anything silly, I'm done shifting my weight by the time I'm done with my takeaway.

And as I'm getting here, you can kind of see, like with my sacrum and stuff right here, that it's already starting to get back towards the other side.

preparing me to start to move into this kind of scap drop, supination, pivoting off my trail side like this.

It's something that kind of happens natural when you learn how to move your backswing correctly.

This is something that if anybody's done a swing review, they've heard me say a million times, and I'll continue to say this, is typically when you look at a problem in the golf swing, It's not what you're seeing.

It's probably something right before what you're seeing.

It's more the effect.

The cause probably happened right before.

So if you're struggling with getting your pressure to move back correctly to the lead side, it's probably because you're not taking it back correctly.

Because as I start to move into my rotation, side bend, extension right here, and I get into that lordosis, as long as I maintain my kind of knee kick in place, as you see in the go backswing video.

As I start to do this, I kind of have no choice.

See, as I'm kind of maxing out, see how it's kind of forcing me to do that? Because as I'm doing this and I'm getting my max turn, I'm already going back that way so that now I can drop this and get into my side bend position.

So hopefully that answers it.

Probably should have read that beforehand.

But more than likely, if you're struggling with the pressure shift, it's probably your back swing.

Because that movement is very natural.

And just to expand upon that a little bit.

Alright.

Think of this guy.

Alright.

Let's think of this guy.

So if I took this guy and I started swinging this guy.

I started kind of moving him back and forth.

Would I really have to think about moving back to this side? If I got over here and I started moving this and I didn't naturally, I'd fall on this.

That's seven years of bad luck right here.

All right.

I don't need that.

As I'm moving this weight right here, I can feel, okay, if I'm going to support this, I've got to let my body start to move into the opposite direction that this weight is swinging right here.

This is a really good way to feel.

The naturalness of, oh, I'm swinging this mass over here.

Well, I would naturally, as I'm starting to kind of max out on my motion, let my pressure start to shift back over to that side.

That's a really good way to naturally feel it.

But what I would say is actually check your back.

All right.

All right, David.

Discuss hand path.

Swing path, into out sequence, show in slow motion down the line how to throw with the middle finger, bicep curl, and how the trail shoulder drops while the right knee kicks in.

What is the sequence of events in which work together? They all work together.

They almost all work simultaneously.

What is the clock position at the top? Depends on where you're talking about the clock.

Starting downswing.

through impact into out all right so david i'm going to answer some of this but you're definitely one of the ones that kind of kicked it into maybe a full webinar so let's see if i can figure this out discuss hand pass swing path end out sequence show in slow motion down the line how to throw the middle finger bicep curl how the trail shoulder drop right knee kicks in okay that's this i'm taking that as that's this right here That's the trail shoulder drop, the supination, the elbow going down, the right knee kicking in right here.

All right? All of this is pretty much simultaneous.

So as I'm working from here towards the top, the hand path and the shallowing can't go this way.

Anything going in that direction, stop.

So as I start to move into my side bend extension, getting up here towards the top, what direction are my hands going right now? As I start to supinate, so I'm going to start to move into extension, start to move into this position right here.

What direction are my hands going? My hands, if anything, are actually moving slightly down and slightly away.

Okay, now you're going to see some players that have a little bit more dramatic hand pass in transition.

But what happens right here is the hand path actually moves down and slightly away in that initial transition.

As this scap starts to move down, my trail arm and hand move this way as I start to pivot this down.

So you can see if I had this on right here and I kept going, you can see I'm right on my target line right now and now I can get to releasing it.

So when you're thinking about what's happening to try to get in and out and with your hand path, the hand path is going to go down and a little bit away right here, never towards.

Anytime you're getting here and going towards, it's going to be dead.

So to kind of further elaborate just a little bit on that.

The bicep curl and how the trail shoulder drops.

Well, this is what I just was talking about a second ago.

Probably should just put that there.

Thanks, animal.

That's animal, by the way, if you didn't know.

So when you get up here towards the top, the one thing that you really don't want to do is you don't want to start firing this tricep away.

Obviously, we don't want to push with the thumb.

We don't want to cast.

We don't want to do anything like that.

So as I'm in this position right here, My bicep right here is retaining, helping me retain my GDP spot, my GDP position, all right? So my bicep is actually engaged right here as I'm starting to kick and drive in this way.

I don't want to fire my tricep and start pushing this club away.

So the movement, when you're going from here and you're starting to supinate, try to get aligned with the camera a little bit better.

You're going from here and starting to supinate.

It's moving down and away as that scapula is going this way.

So you can see it's going down and away.

And as that starts to happen, my trail, leg, hip, foot are all working as a unit to get that to move into position.

And it happens pretty darn fast.

It's not like this is just like a slow thing.

Because where max hand speed is going to be here, because think about it.

I've got to get from this position down to here with speed.

I can't wait all the way to impact and then start thinking about accelerating.

The golf ball is already gone.

If I want this club to have max down here, well, at some point in time, I've got a decel.

So if you can see, I'll just kind of do this right here.

As I'm doing this.

Like to get this to move fast, like this has to go and I've got to throw it.

Think about the throw.

If I'm throwing it from the top, it's because I'm trying to get the club to have speed down here because I've got to start getting rid of this stuff so that it can decel and snap down here at the bottom.

I'm not trying to get this to go from here, the hand path this way, accelerate, accelerate, accelerate, accelerate, and then go that way.

That's way too late.

you're not going to get the energy transfer that way.

Well, the middle finger right there, I'm feeling that the whole time from this position.

So as I get into setup right here, and I'm going towards the top, and I kind of feel that button getting this supination and that hand path moving this way, I'm feeling this kind of stay in that middle finger right here.

until it's time to snap and that's going to be where i'm really starting to kind of apply that pressure down here think of the conveyor belt so i'm here go here go here go like so i'm i'm still aware of it the whole time but when i get down here and i'm trying to snap it that's where i'm trying to feel that pressure really kind of take over but i'm always kind of aware of it but until i get this shallowing making the supination move and getting here, that's going to be where I'm really trying to throw, you know, kind of get that snap in there.

I'm throwing it from the top, but that's going to be where I'm really feeling that snap.

All right.

So I hope that covers it.

You don't get a little time.

Yeah, I'll come back to that if I need to, David.

Is wrist set and active? Or passive part of the golf swing? What's the key to having supple wrists while still having face control? The wrists are soft and you have your grip pressure.

So is the wrist set active or passive? Well, it kind of depends.

Are your wrists too dead? I see this all the time.

Players are making their takeaway and as they go back, they're not letting anything happen.

They're just leaving it like this.

as they start to go back, and nothing ever happens.

This goes into the grip pattern.

I'll come back to you, David, at the end.

This goes into why the grip is so important.

So as you're taking your grip, and you're getting your trail hand on, and you're getting your lead hand on, the biggest problem is the players don't get enough in the fingers.

As soon as you get it in the fingers, you start to feel a little bit of this club head.

When it's in the palm, this wrist tends to stay kind of an ulnar deviation right here.

You kind of really don't get any feedback.

It's why you'd see players bowl kind of put things in the lifeline, especially when they putt, because it kind of blocks out the wrist this way.

Bryson does that a little bit too.

But as soon as you put it in the fingers right here, especially in your lead hand, you start to get a feel for the weight of the club.

Okay, start to get a feel for it.

And so is the wrist set active or passive? Well, as I'm going back, I've got to allow the wrist set to happen.

I've got to allow this pressure to help keep the club out in front of me right here.

I can't let it be dead.

Now, as I start to allow for just a little bit of feel that pressure right there, I'm not really doing a whole heck of a lot as I go from here to the top.

All right.

I'm not trying to get here.

and then dump my wrist that way, because as soon as I do that, I'm going to want to go that way.

So other than allowing in the fingers and feeling just a little bit right here, now I have a little bit of feel for the weight of the club.

As I'm moving into here, I can feel how now the weight of the club is starting to set the action for me.

So I can't tell you like, oh, the wrists are just dead.

Oh, we'll use the rest of time.

Well, that one I can tell you, don't use the rest of time.

But you need to focus on if you're struggling with the wrist, one, getting the grip.

Two, as you start to go back, having that little bit of just allowing the club, that little bit of pushing down right here, you can start to feel how the club just kind of sets up on the plane just a little bit right there and stays in front of you.

And kind of once you have that, you start to feel a lot of the weight of the club.

And as you start to feel the weight of the club, the supination action, the throwing action, You can start to throw it as hard as you want or you can throw it as soft as you want.

So you are kind of generating that motion a little bit.

But the setting, because I'm thinking that's where you're like is the wrists.

There's a little bit here.

But it all comes down in the fingers and feeling that pressure right here so that this club starts to set up naturally.

Hey, well, that was actually all the submissions.

on five six so that was the first day submissions we got through those nice um let's see do the hands go out and up or out and left are you meaning on the way down david or where are you talking about the hands go out up or out and left here down deeper And then as you start to move this way, then they start to move in front.

And then as you start to get into the release, you're not trying to make the hands kind of go out and up this way.

You're not trying to get here and make them go that way.

As soon as you get to here, you don't want to be, the pivot is bringing the hands back down in front right here so you can start to release it because the shallowing aspect happens early.

All right.

You don't, you don't, there's no need to still be trying.

You don't, you're not trying to shallow out the club where you're right here.

If you're doing that, it's too late.

The face is going to be open.

So post impact, as I'm getting through here in my hand path, well, my hands are moving this way.

They're going in, they're not still continuing out this way.

Okay.

So hopefully that helps.

So out and up or out and left.

Yeah.

So they have to go a little bit this way.

They have to go a little bit to the left.

They're going out in this way.

Because if I'm a true kind of trebuchet right here, where I'm trying, or not trebuchet, but a true kind of like conveyor belt release, where are my hands going? They're going this way underneath, releasing, then going out up and around right there.

But they're not going out this way further because it kind of pivot my body right here.

They're going this way.

They're still traveling on their arc.

Shallow.

here, this way.

It's going to feel a little bit down the target line, but if you map it out, they're not going out that way.

All right.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I appreciate you stopping by today.

It looks like we're at the end of our rope.

We got a lot of questions up there.

Let's see.

I'm going to try to get a couple of the ones that I saw before we do it.

But if you stood, if you, before I do that, if you stuck with me this long, thank you.

I hope you got something out of today because hopefully some of these questions you needed answered or you just need a little bit more clarification on.

If you didn't get your question answered, I'm going to put something on the community.

Okay.

I'm going to put it on the community and I want you to put your questions there because I'm going to be back and then I'm going to answer it.

Or answer them to the best of my ability to get you going.

Oh, thank you, Mark.

Thank you, Mary.

All right.

So I'm going to try to get a couple of these that were on here.

Let's see.

I'm going to try to get back.

There's a big screen right here.

Why does my sequence break down when I go all the way back? I'm 72 years young and very flexible from my age, but going all the way back causes timing issues.

Michael, we probably have to see your swing.

I got to see it.

Typically, if you're going all the way back and something's breaking, it's usually because if you think of this kind of pivot with your leg right here, as you're going this way, something's giving in that you're either not.

coiling correctly rather not coiling correctly into this so you're not getting kind of a natural kind of tension break to tell you to start kind of moving back this way and going the other direction um so what i'm thinking is that as you're going back at some point in time you probably quit rotating with your core and you either let your legs and hips break down or you get to here and you just start swimming with your arms Because it feels like you're never going to get there.

And so you probably start trying to turn instead of trying to get into extension.

So my two bets, I got to see it, is going to be that you're not maintaining, you're not getting coiled into this hip.

Or as you're starting to go back, you quit turning thinking you're turning all the way back.

And you just start swinging your arms.

And now your whole momentum thing are all out of whack.

All right.

Let's see.

Stanley, yes, the replay will be posted.

All right, it will be posted.

Peter, thank you.

David, thank you, thank you.

Dennis, yes, we will post all of these.

David, somewhere I put mine in the community, but it was kind of late.

Okay, and we'll get to you.

We'll get to you.

Doug, thank you.

Got a lot out of it.

Good.

Kevin, Stanley, thank you.

All right.

Well, I'm glad everybody seemed to enjoy it, seemed to get something out of it.

If you like this series, we're going to keep it going.

All right, I know some of these things you probably already know.

but we're going to keep this going.

So I'm going to get that post in there.

You ask your questions.

We want you to get this.

And we want this to kind of be a back and forth.

All right.

Sometimes it can be just as simple.

I mean, I don't care what the question is.

I mean, a lot of y 'all have known me for a long time, whether you've seen me on the forum, the community, a swing review, a live lesson, you name it.

I'm always answering something.

So I'm happy to do this because sometimes just getting that visual really helps.

And by the way, I didn't put it on the screen because I forgot to because I was too busy trying to help you all.

I still do have half off my unlimited and a discount on live lessons that I will put on the screen now.

If you want to do one, I'll put it on the screen right now if I can find it.

Well, it's supposed to be there.

There we go.

So if you want a discounted live lesson or if you want to do half off unlimited, let me know.

I'll be happy to help you out.

Thank you, Peter.

I appreciate it.

Tommy, thank you.

Thank you.

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Daryl, thank you.

I appreciate it.

I'll get that post up.

You put your questions if you want.

Just kind of a live lesson, come join me.

Unlimited, come join me.

If not, you just want to hang out with me on Wednesday nights, come hang out with me on Wednesday nights.

It's kind of what I do.

All right, so I hope you got something out of it.

We'll get the replay posted as fast as possible.

Get your questions in.

Happy to show you.

Thanks for coming by.

Hey, Mark, I'll put that up right there.

There you go, Mark.

And anytime you don't get a link to something, just email customer service and they get it to you if it got off.

Kevin, yeah.

That's actually signed by Brady, by the way.

He signed that after his first Super Bowl.

So I've had that for 23 years now.

It's really tough to have that helmet living in Atlanta.

Just saying.

Don't tell anybody.

All right, everybody.

I'm glad you had a good time.

We'll get the replay.

See you next session.

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Mark
Talk to me more about the start of the downswing. My confusion is the hands drop straight down it seems I am breaking the plan and at best going in to different directions, down and then towards the ball to get back on plane. I struggle with this and it doesn't feel natural. Dropping the shoulder doesn help but sometimes I feel stuck and can't get my arms in front of me in time and I flips to catach up. Which videos sould I watch to help clear this up? I will try and send a video to you in a few days if it would help more. Mark
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Mark. Are you wanting this on the webinar or for me to answer here?
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Kevin
Excellent follow up like reading Cliff Notes on Chuck’s master literature of golf. Thank you!!!!
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thanks Kevin. Just enough cliff notes to pass the test
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Richard
Love the information however I am in a horrible slump. Play to a 2, but now I’m stuck between a lead side pattern vs right side. I don’t have any feel of the club. Stuck on position of club during backswing and have lost complete feel of face. Playing army golf. I went thru the protocols and completed the assessments. My grip pressure is all over the board. Any advice. I will be sending a swing review in the next couple days. What you are teaching is right on however I’ve lost confidence. Thx Rich.
May 10, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rich. I think the review is key. It is tough to switch from lead side to trail side control. More than likely coming from lead side you are used to being kind of "hands off" feel. But, you will need to control this with the trail hand. If you add some more pressure and make some fuller swings trail hand only you may start finding the face again.
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Charles
Great explanations as always! Thanks!
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Charles. Thank you
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Jonathan
I learn something new every time you and Chuck do a demo. Thanks for doing the webinar.
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Thank You. If you have any topics you want discussed further. Please post them in the Community.
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Stanley
I'm on a Mac viewing the replay with Chrome. A green border around the viewing area is constantly showing and disappearing. It's quite distracting. I have no idea what can be causing this.
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Stanley. Hmm. Let me talk to tech.
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Jim
Invaluable Craig. Thank you. ????
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Great. Much appreciated!
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