Q-n-A Webinar 1: May 7
Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, first webinar, May 7th 2025
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Welcome to the first live Q &A session.
I will be your humble swing guide today, RST instructor Craig Morrow, and thank you for sharing your time with me today.
I know 7 o 'clock on the East Coast might be pushing it a little bit, but at least lets our West Coast people kind of jump in.
So you're going to see me kind of bounce back and forth a little bit between here and the monitor just because I can't see it from where I am.
And I'm going to let people sneak in the room here because I'm watching the ticker right now.
getting higher and higher, so I'm going to let people kind of sneak in the room.
But as people are sneaking in the room, I want to go ahead and start to lay some groundwork of what we're doing here.
So these sessions, it's Q &A.
It's for you guys.
We want you all to know exactly how to swing the way that you want to swing as you're going through the goat code process.
So I was getting kind of concerned because when we first put this out, Nobody was giving me any feedback.
And I'm like, well, I guess everybody knows exactly how to swing the club.
They don't need me anymore.
But today, a lot of questions finally started popping in.
And so what I'm going to do when this session is done, I'm going to put another post on the community for next week's.
And in that, I want you to tell me, what do you want to talk about?
What do you want to discuss?
Some things may be discussed today.
I'm going to use this format today, kind of like a radio host.
You call in, got a question, I'm going to give you some advice.
So I wrote down almost every question that I had sent in.
I might not be able to cover them all, but that's why these sessions are going to go out through this month and throughout next month.
So if I don't get to your question, if you were kind enough to go to the community.
and let me know kind of what you're thinking and what's going on and i don't get to you tonight i will get to you i promise um we just got a long way to go to get there because i got some really good questions coming in that i think people are really gonna kind of see the forest of the trees with today because i really want to kind of simplify some things i'm going to give just about one more minute to get in there hey richard how you doing today steven howdy doug howdy Hoping we're still all good.
Room's getting bigger.
So I think people are either getting home from work or getting on.
But still, thank you again for joining up.
And I'm going to kind of go in the list.
I'm going to start with the very first question that I saw.
And if I get through this list, then I'm going to open up the forum.
I'm going to say, hey, we got through the list.
Everybody's happy with it.
We'll throw in some more.
But like I said, At the end of this, I'm going to put another post on the community for next week.
If I didn't answer your question, put it there.
Now, there's a couple topics that Chuck and I are discussing on the back end from the questions that were like, hey, this actually wouldn't be good for a Q &A.
It actually would be good for a whole session.
So some of these that you sent in, you may not get today, but it's because we actually looked at it and we're like, hey, this is actually a great hour discussion topic.
So we'll get everybody covered.
Don't worry.
All right.
Garrett, howdy.
Hi, Craig.
Just joined Rotary Swing.
Excited.
Fantastic.
Camera seems reversed.
Let's see if we can figure that out.
Does it look like I'm a right-handed swinger or a left-handed swinger?
Lefty.
Uh-oh.
Well, that's not good.
Why did this flip on me?
Let's see if I can.
Let's try this.
Am I the right side now?
Not that I look any better from the left side or the right.
All right, perfect.
Okay, so we're going to go ahead and get started so everybody can.
uh get some things going and i saw a question uh from david what are the deferred question for a full session oh david don't you i saw that some of your question is a deferred one i knew you were gonna ask that i'll get to some of yours all right it should be enough for you i'll get to some of yours uh but some of yours is deferred because you asked a very technical question so you'll see i got this sheet right here All this is, is just what I took from the community.
So I just copied them and said, all right, that's going to be where I start.
So when I grabbed this, that's all this is right here.
So the first question that I saw, and I know this may not be a very popular topic, but I know people get confused on these things because they were never taught it.
So the first question, I'm not going to call out any names other than David, is in -depth alignment.
As in, how can you ensure that you're indeed aligned at the target?
I know the old jack trick of intermediate target, but I find myself getting aligned too far to the right, right-handed golfer.
And then, of course, make all sort of swing compensations from there.
So let's talk a little bit about alignment.
Now, as some of you may or may not know, clubface is 85 % of initial ball flight.
So clubface is the king when it comes.
to what we need to do with alignment right here so when you're starting to align things the one thing you have to understand is that your body and your feet are typically going to lie to you what i like to do is i actually like to take the alignment rod or club and use the back of my feet okay so when i set up right here and i get into position sometimes i'll have a splay in my lead foot now when i start splaying my foot what that's going to tend to do is it's going to tend to make my feet and my body line look like i'm aiming a little bit more to the left but if i use the back of my feet right here this is going to ensure that when i start to put the club down that i'm aligning it a little bit more to my body so when you're starting to really kind of set up your station i want you to really put a little bit of focus on not trying to get it perfectly in front of your feet because when you line up If you're a person that tends to have a little bit of splay, if I splay my lead foot right now, look at this club.
You see how this club's pointed a little bit more to this direction?
So use a little bit more of the back of your feet to try to get a line.
Now, this is kind of the toughie as I was talking about with the clubface angle.
Jack talked about an intermediate target.
I like an intermediate target because I really want to make sure that that clubface is kind of going where I want it to go.
My routine when I'm getting into a shot is I first stand behind it and I find this intermediate target, whether it be a foot in front of the ball.
I'll put a ball right here so we can kind of see it.
And I'm going to use this little weight as like an intermediate target.
So I'm going to find an intermediate target in between where I'm trying to go and on the ground.
So as I'm getting set up to here, how I like to do it, especially goat code being in trail side control.
I like to take my trail arm in hand first and I kind of start in this open position.
I don't like to get my body set and then try to do the club face.
I like to get my club set on that intermediate target line.
So now I get my club face squared up right to that intermediate target line.
I don't have to worry about going crazily down the fairway or anything.
I know I'm square to here.
And now if you look at my trail foot.
when i bring my trail foot in my trail foot's kind of perpendicular to this club so as i start to set into position i can know that this foot right here and this club face are all pretty much on my line and if i use this club or an alignment rod behind me i can really make sure that i kind of stay on that but i don't want you to because this is something that i see a ton of is that players set up and they're like all right i'm going to get I'm going to get my body set up here, my shoulders like this.
All right, let me get my club now.
But they don't have any kind of frame of reference because as they start to look down and you're seeing lines and circles and everything going this way, well, now you're all discombobulated.
So my two big kind of tips for this is one.
Use the back of your feet for alignment when you're setting up your station, not the front of your feet, especially if you're a person that tends to display.
The second thing is, is after you find an intermediate target, I want you to develop a routine to get aligned.
I want you to get your trail arm in hand, get into position, get this lined up on your spot.
You can get your trail foot kind of perpendicular so it can really help with your body.
Use the back of the feet, and that's going to help you get into that spot every single time.
All right.
Number two.
In discussion of supination, Chuck talks about kicking back on plane if you supinate properly.
I hope Chuck will cover this point in more detail in another webinar, as it's something that I personally have struggled with when I supinate.
It feels like the club gets too far under plane.
Now, this is a pretty good one right here.
When we think of conveyor belt or supination, we obviously can see that as the club starts to pitch this way, that the club's starting to shallow out and swing out a little bit to the right.
So I'm taking that question as, well, Craig, I'm getting the supination part, but as I'm getting supination, I'm getting too far under plane, and I'm starting to get into this position.
where I'm starting to maybe hit a couple drop kicks, or I'm starting to really shoot the ball way out to the right and hook it back.
Well, what's really going to balance out this plane for us?
If you truly did set up and you got up here and you just supinated, all right, and you just went like this and you just did your arms and did a big, massive supination, you can see my swing plane right now.
It's super in to out.
Like even with my wrist going into extension, my lead wrist or my trail wrist, my lead wrist going into flexion right here, like it's still kind of super into out.
You're not going to get stuck under plane if you move your body.
And that's typically what I see when players start kind of getting that too big into out path is they take the notion of supination and they forget that other stuff has to move because we really don't have an arm swing in the golf swing.
And so how does this kick back on the plane?
Well, as I swing up here towards the top and I start to supinate, what's happening?
Now, I'm going to get into a little bit more detail on this question later.
But as this club's supinating and my trail shoulder is getting connected and my core and my hip are starting to drive and starting to move towards the target, what's my lead hip starting to do right now?
Well, my lead hip is actually starting to rotate.
It's actually starting to move back and away from me right here.
It's not only the wrist going into extension, the trail wrist, and the lead wrist going into flexion, but it's also the fact that my body rotation, because I'm not swinging my arms and hands, is starting to zero out my plan and path.
If I got to here and I just quit all my body, then more than likely I'm just going to flip and swing it from the inside.
So if you're having a tendency to get stuck under plane, more than likely you're just using your arms trying to get this big supination.
And you're forgetting the fact that the core has to pivot through.
If you watch, no matter how hard I make this supinate this way.
All right.
So I'm going to I'm going to really get this going crazy.
But if I get that going crazy and I'm driving my body, look at the position I'm in.
I didn't create that.
That wasn't me just like trying to get this on the toe line.
it's because the forces of my wrist going back on itself this wrist starting to go into flexion and my hip and my body moving into side bend and pivoting out of the way that's going to be what kind of zeros out that plane right there so if you're getting stuck supinating under plane more than likely all you're doing is you're just getting back here you're getting the supination and you're just doing it with your arms.
You can see like with right there, I almost hit that golf club because all I was doing was just staying back and doing it with my arms.
Well, as I go through here, if I supinate and I'm starting to drive really hard, getting into side bend, getting into this position right here, my hip clearing out of the way, this is what's starting to bring me around to zero out my path.
See, watch that right there.
If I do that same thing, and I let this go excessively, watch what happens as I start to rotate my body right here.
I start to pivot that hip out of the way.
What's the club doing?
The club's back in front of me.
And now, I mean, look at the size of my release.
It's very tiny.
I don't have to do anything to get this club face to square.
I can release it kind of as hard as I want from right there.
So getting stuck under playing, make sure you are still using your body and you're not just trying to do it with your arm and hand.
Supination alone by itself, it's kind of pointless.
All right, let's see.
Number three, I'm tall and lanky and have a very hard time getting to GDP on my full swing.
My wrists usually release much sooner.
So that's going to be the risk pushing and firing, probably pushing from that trail shoulder, trail arm a little bit too much.
What training exercises or method can you suggest to help me hold my release back?
Well, there's a ton of different things that you can do.
Because, you know, on the site, we've got a million different videos.
But I'm going to tell you one of my favorite ones.
And any of my students and, you know, my unlimited group or people have come to see me for lessons or anything like that.
You have to get the feeling of how little your arms and hands really need to work.
And that's what this does.
Okay.
I saw a message pop up.
Just want to make sure.
Okay.
So that's what this does.
Okay.
Is this gets you to kind of feel what you need to be doing in the swing.
If you're releasing it early.
Okay.
So if you're on GDP in the full swing and you're releasing it too soon, you're starting to pronate, right?
Because it feels powerful to you.
to take this shoulder, to take this arm, to start to pronate.
That's what everybody thinks power is versus actually kind of moving away from it.
The best thing to do is to realize that you're not getting power from your arms.
You get power in how you're using your body in the snap of the wrist.
You're not really getting it from your arms.
So you have to feel kind of how to turn it off.
And that's why this is the best way to do it.
If you take.
a two-handed medicine ball, and you can do this with anything, but what I want you to really do is kind of start doing this dynamically.
You can feel your way through the positions where you're loading and rotating, but watch what happens for me to get into GDP right here.
Notice how I have to keep my trail elbow pit, my trail palm, my trail hand facing away from me, okay?
If you're pronating this way, You're trying to create power with your arms, okay?
I don't want you to try to create power with the arms.
The arms are kind of weak.
They don't really do a whole bunch with this.
What I need you to do is take this position from the top and get you to start to feel how moving your core and leaving your arm in this supinated position gets you to GDP.
This is where we start to talk about how we get in the side bin.
Now the hips start to pivot out of the way.
But early pronation is just push.
That's all it is.
You're trying to power it by push.
And what you've got to start to get a feel for, and I want you to kind of do it a little dynamic.
I don't want you to sit here and kind of make this look.
This is one of my pet peeves and one of Chuck's pet peeves.
People start doing drills and doing this, but they don't move.
This is a movement.
It's dynamic.
You can't do these things in slow motion.
There's a time and place for slow motion.
But not in this one.
What I want you to do is take this and move through here and pivot into here.
So you see how if you can start to get used to, wait a minute.
My arm really doesn't have to do a whole bunch of anything to here.
I haven't even moved it, to be honest with you.
I've let it swing up and down.
You need to start to get comfortable with this position.
but you're not comfortable with it because you think that this is power.
As soon as you start doing it with an object like this and feeling this way, you're going to start to feel two things.
You're going to feel some lengthening as you go back here, and then you're going to feel some crunching.
And as you start to crunch right there, you're going to realize, well, as I start to crunch and I'm moving to side bend, that's whipping my arm down right here.
I don't have to do anything with my arm.
See how that's bringing me down?
It's not me trying to motor it.
It's literally just leaving it here, supinating and moving in the side bend.
That's going to be where you get your juice from.
So if you're struggling with that early pronation, the two things I would do is I would get the medicine ball out and do it dynamic to that position and feel when I lengthen and when I crunch, well, I haven't had to use my arm yet.
How am I going to release this early?
If I'm up here at the top, now I pivot into here.
How is this going to be released early if I don't use it?
I mean, I don't know how.
The only way it's going to be released early is because you're trying to use it, and you have to feel what you're moving body-wise to not use your arm and hand.
Let's see.
Can we talk about tempo?
Yeah, we can talk about that in a review.
But, Darrell, it's typically three to one, just to answer your question.
My club face is not getting to the ground.
I tend to fan it, offer some suggestions.
We'll get to that, Peter.
But I'm going to get to my list of the ones that sent it in.
Because in the last webinar, we kind of got caught talking about the hands.
And then we had this whole string of questions coming in.
And that's why we want you to post into the community.
So that I can make sure that we get everybody answered.
I don't want any man or woman left behind.
All right.
So I'm going to get the ones that are sent in.
And if we get through this, I'll come back to you.
But yes, Daryl, it's typically about a three to one ratio.
Roy's is actually just the tiniest bit faster.
Let's see.
Number four was I'm slightly pulling shots.
Now, this one came in before the last one.
But it's why I wanted to do that first.
What is going to be really causing the pull?
Like what is going to cause the pull?
I said this earlier about the clubface angle, is that if the clubface angle is 85 % of initial ball flight, well, that means that at some point in time as I'm getting down here, this clubface is starting to turn left too soon.
Now, I know there's some people in there that are going to get into gear effect and all that, but let's just keep it for simple demonstration purposes.
is that if I'm causing a pull, something with this club face is starting to go to the left too soon and getting that ball to go that way.
It goes back to the same thing that I just talked about.
You're pushing, literally.
All you're doing is that as you're starting to get down, you're pushing with this side, which is typically going to start to steepen the plane, get the shoulders spinning open, and this club rotating over.
Now, this goes into, if you've watched, you know the majors or anything like that you can see bryson doing this all the time you'll see him he kind of gets his left arm and he kind of presets it and he gets it into this position he talks about all the time like i've got to keep this lead elbow pointing down the target line right here like that's his big thing like i got to keep that right there as i start to work into impact well that's actually a really good kind of thought or feel for people that are pulling it because if you're working down into impact This lead shoulder is going to be in a little bit of protraction right here.
And if this lead elbow is still going down the target line and you start pushing, look at my arm right now.
What is my arm having to do?
See how my arm's having to get out of the way?
But if this stays a little bit in protraction as I'm working through there and this elbow pits pointed down the target line, how is this club face going to get?
I mean, that's a chore for me right now to get in here.
So if you're really pulling the shot, it goes back to the same problem as the gentleman from earlier.
All you're doing is pushing.
So focus first on getting into GDP.
And then when you're down here, not taking this lead shoulder, lead arm and hand, and trying to motor it this way.
Feel like that lead elbow pit, this button in the club is staying kind of down that target line as you're getting into position right here.
Look at the club face.
Club face is not even close.
to be enclosed.
And that should help you stay on that path that way, keep that club face from shutting down too soon.
All right.
Moving on through here.
What do we got?
Make sure.
Oh, that's okay, Daryl.
No worries.
We'll still get to everybody.
Number five.
I'm confused about the release and the throwing of the club head at the ball.
Okay, this is a good one.
On the one hand, we're told means to let it go, whereas throw implies make it go.
Is this basically the difference in a lead side and trail side swing?
If not, how do I let it go and make it go at the same time?
That would be kind of a conundrum, and that's a really good question.
That's a really good question.
All right.
The let it go and make it go.
Well, letting it go definitely signifies I'm not doing anything.
So we typically use the kind of letting it go in a lead side based pattern.
So if you're using your lead arm in hand to release the club, we typically talk about how you need a lot of rotation from your hip to kind of sling the club.
and you're just kind of letting physics just kind of do the job right here all right so as i'm going through here like literally because i've done five million of these i can literally sit here and hit balls all day long like that if i try to motor with my lead arm in hand in a lead side pattern i'm dead like literally you can't try to control the club or rotate the hand i'm literally trying to get down here and make sure that my wrist just gets into a little bit of flexion and to me kind of feels like the knuckles are just kind of scraping against the ground like this but i'm using my hip to kind of sling this in and i'm letting it go now does that mean that the release in a trail side pattern is making it though kind of yeah what does this snap mean like if i'm getting here and i'm going to snap the club I'm using my body.
I'm using acceleration, deceleration, all this.
But I've got my pressure right here.
I'm feeling the supination.
What is a snap?
Like I'm putting some effort into that.
Like I'm snapping this club.
So in a trail side pattern, that's why one of the big things, the grip is so important, especially getting this pressure points right in this middle finger.
is because as you start to move throughout the swing, you actually have some control in this.
The wrists aren't going to really set a whole bunch.
They're really not going to do a whole bunch.
And then just like in the hands webinar where Chuck was talking about, some baseball players kind of almost feel like they have a button right here, but they can do that to kind of feel the supination.
But if I'm going to do something with force, I'm going to have some control over this.
I'm giving up to the golf gods to kind of let this release.
but it's not like this i'm not just like i'm not all loosey-goosey if you get too loosey-goosey as in like dead you can't control a trail side pattern the grip is there for a purpose and when i'm starting to snap like i'm putting some force into it like i'm making that happen this one i'm just kind of letting it But I want to feel.
That's why as you start to get down here, you can really feel kind of finessing it with that hand.
Because you are, in a sense, throwing it.
I mean, just think about, you should have one around here somewhere.
I mean, I've got that Braves tomahawk over there.
You'd think I'd have a baseball down here.
Think about a baseball.
You're still releasing it as you're throwing it, but you're still doing something.
you're still you're in still kind of control of that okay so it's not like you're trying to force it for power i think that's where people when they think like to make it that's where they get messed up is because i'm not trying to get it i'm not trying to make it happen with speed this way that's not what i'm trying to do i'm trying to stay away from it literally as long as i can and then at the last moment after i get done with all my pivoting and all my fun stuff make it snap but i'm getting that feedback from my hand getting that feedback from there i can feel that i'm making that happen just a little bit i'm still kind of letting it go but i'm still kind of got some control in there all right so hopefully that kind of answers it it may not But you've got a lot more control and feedback that you can kind of make with this club right here than you do in the other version.
Number six, as we get older, good posture is more difficult.
I agree.
That's even before you get crazy old, even at my age.
So how important is good posture to the swing?
It's pretty darn important.
Is it mostly for power or direction?
Both.
I feel it has more to do with direction accuracy.
It has a big thing to do with direction accuracy, but it also has a big thing to do with your power.
Because let's think about this, all right?
So I could get into all the bells and whistles about how when you set up and when you start to get into neutral joint alignment, getting your spine in neutral and opening up the facet joints to facilitate rotation and all that, but we kind of.
Don't think about it in the traditional sense anymore, and I don't want to bore you to pieces.
But posture-wise, why is this so important?
I understand that some people are kind of limited.
I mean, you can even see with me standing right here, I'm starting to get even a little bit of kyphosis from doing swing reviews all day.
But posture is of the utmost importance because you don't really rotate in the golf swing.
It's a blend.
of kind of rotation side bend and extension so let's take my backswing for instance as i start to set up right here the backswing is going to be a blend of me rotating moving into side bend and moving into extension it's not kind of like the traditional feel yourself here feel yourself here it's technically me just kind of getting back into extension right here now if you have the tendency to be really lazy with your posture And when you get set up and you kind of get this kind of rounded back, like you got your five iron out and you got this rounded back.
What do you think I'm probably going to see first?
What do you think is the first thing that I'm going to see?
You're going to set up with this rounded back.
And the very first thing I'm going to see is you start to try to turn and your head goes off the golf ball.
Because as you start to try to turn from this position, when your spine is in flexion, your head's got to go with it.
Unless you're going to do something funky.
and kind of try to get into this position with a reverse hip shift this way.
So posture is of the utmost importance.
Now, I understand people are limited, but as we make our backswing, we're going into rotation, side bend, and extension right here.
If you're in a slouched position, A, your head's going to typically move off the ball, okay?
And so you're going to tend to have this kind of lazy back and forth motion like this.
B, What about the scapula?
For those that have been with rotary swing forever, you understand how important the scapular movement is.
Well, if I'm really slouched right here, what's going to tend to happen is I'm going to start to go back and I'm going to be like, wait a minute, Chuck told me it's shoulder blade glide and I got to get this back.
And then I'm going to tend to try to get my shoulder engaged now.
So now not only has my head gone off the golf ball, you probably can't see it, but now my shoulder blade's already locked.
But I've already locked my shoulder blade on the backswing.
It's going to be really hard for me to get proper supination and shallow and into GDP if I've already wrenched my shoulder blade back right here, because right now the only direction it wants to go is back out.
And so when you think of trying to get into this good posture, we've used the same trick forever.
I even used it on a swing review yesterday.
Or you can take the club, put it on your back right here, put one head on your head, one on your lumbar spine right here, and then kind of hinge from the hips, and that'll really kind of help you try to get that as flat as possible.
But if you do that as much as you can to a point, obviously living in flexibility or if you have some spinal issues.
What I want you to kind of consider, though, I want you to go to the goat backswing video.
And the reason I want you to go to the goat backswing video, because if you're struggling with this kind of roundness, you really got to try to feel where your shoulder blades need to be positioned.
Okay.
And so what I mean by that is as I'm in setup right here, and I'm not trying to show you, you know, fanny view, but I kind of have to.
As you get into position right here, your shoulder blades, as I start to go back, are actually going to kind of go up a little bit right here.
all right so that as i start to come down they can kind of depress and get into position as i'm starting to shallow out the club so i want you to play around with that setup if you have a little bit around this and you're like craig i i can't do anything more than this try to keep your head on the horizon as much as you can i don't want you to shrug up all right i want you to get a feel for just lifting your shoulder blades just a little bit as much as you can, so that as you start to get into these positions, you can try to get into extension as best as you can, but what that'll do is that'll really help that, I call it kind of a heave-ho, but it'll really help that heave of getting this back by here, getting your shoulder kind of behind your head over here, because when you tend to get slouch like this, you tend to move too much inflection with the head, and this stays really down and depressed because you're trying to rotate.
And that's kind of the only thing you can move from that position.
And then the problem is, is the only thing you can do now coming down is come back out this way.
Okay?
So that's what I would do.
I'd go to that goat backswing video.
I'd try to get as flat as possible.
And I'd really start trying to feel my shoulder blades so that they can move to the positions as much as they can.
So when I get up here, I can get into my extension, lordosis, all the little bells and whatnots.
All right.
Just want to make sure there's nothing else popping up.
So hopefully that helps.
And maybe I should start doing this like Casey Kasem.
I don't want to call anybody out, but maybe in like Rick G or somebody, this is what they called in.
All right.
Next question.
Craig, during the webinar, please discuss arm speed as it relates to hand speed.
I understand Chuck emphasizes hand speed and not using the arms to throw the club.
So you kind of answered your own question.
So help me understand how fast the arms, trail arm in particular, should be going and how to get the arms moving at the correct speed and ultimately release and throw at max speed.
We're not really using our arms.
And this is, I'm not going to get philosophical on you, but there's a reason why we break down everything because we want to get down to what kind of really matters.
So when you're thinking about arm speed and hand speed, how are you going to control, all right, I'm going to try to take my elbow and make my elbow speed be fast.
But then once I make my elbow speed be fast, I'm going to now focus on trying to get my wrist speed to be fast.
I'm going to try to make all, I'm going to think all this in a half a second.
You really can't do that.
The arms really don't do anything.
All right.
So this is kind of how I want you to think about arm speed or how I want you to think about what your arms are really doing right here.
As I get set up right here and I get into position, I'm going to kind of get this tricep extended and I'm going to get a lot of width right here.
And I'm going to start to make my movement back up here towards the top, keeping my width, trying to kind of maximize.
Now, as I move from here, making my supination with my arm and hand, I don't want you to think like, okay, well, I want to have good arm speed.
Shove my elbow in front of my body.
That's not going to work.
All right, this is a position that's never gonna work.
When you get into this spot right here, what's kind of the first thing that really happens right here?
I'm in extension, got a little bit of lordosis right here, and I'm starting to get my shoulder blade to depress.
And as my shoulder blade depresses, when I'm getting in here, it locks it into position now so that as I move into side bend, you see how my arm is moving relative?
to how fast I'm moving my core.
So I'm not trying to shove my arm here.
I'm not trying to speed up my arm.
What I'm trying to do is take the arm out of the equation.
I'm trying to focus on the supination of my wrist and my forearm, letting my arm kind of get into that little bit of external right there.
But I'm trying to focus on the connection of not using my arm.
I'm not trying to speed this up.
I want my wrist to be able to snap and have power.
I'm not trying to motor it with my arms.
If I try to do something with my arms, what more than likely is going to happen?
I'm going to push.
I'm going to get here.
I'm going to start pushing this way.
I'm going to start steepening the pitch of the shaft.
Who knows?
A million different things can happen.
But I don't want you to think, all right, well, I'm going to get.
my arm speed trying to match my hand speed or i'm going to try to get my hip that's not how it works this motion right here as i make this as my trail shoulder blade starts to drop into position as i start to move back right here well now this has kind of created this linkage to my core and so now as i'm dynamic with my crunch it's my crunch that's taking care of my whole arm motion right here i'm not doing anything i'm not firing this tricep this bicep i can feel is engaged and holding it i'm trying to do nothing with this i'm here i'm feeling supination pivoting pivoting so i'm not i don't want you to try to motor the arm there's you're not trying to create speed with this this is just kind of the connecting tool it's going to be the snap and how you're moving your body but your arm speed is your side bend right here it's your crunch It's connected to it.
I sit here and do this all I can do this the next 15 minutes if you wanted me to But that's because it's now linked my core movements think like if I'm a robot My core movement Is taking care of my arms right now.
See that see how my arms are moving relative with my core So now as I get here and I get into my crunch and side bend My arm it's not because I'm trying to motor this I'm trying to not use it and have it be moved by me moving into side bed.
Okay?
So hopefully that helps it a little bit.
All right.
In some of the videos, webinars, you mentioned shifting, pressure at the top.
by a subtle motion of sitting into the left side.
So you could think of like the old school lead side RST.
We even had a video called getting up here, sitting into the left side.
In the fascia webinar, you mentioned that Tiger does not do that.
Can you clarify how pressure shifts during the transition?
Is it purely the right shoulder moving the left hip or a subtle shift into the left at the top and then the right shoulder moving down?
Well, it's more the latter.
You shouldn't, if you're moving correctly, you shouldn't have to try to get your pressure back to this side.
Now, I just 1000 move my pressure and my weight, two 1001 different topics.
1002 But as I get to here, I shouldn't have to 1003 try to make this happen, to try to move 1004 this mass over here.
As I'm getting into 1005 the backswing, so we're talking a second 1006 ago, if I'm using my core, 1007 And my trail shoulder starts to get up 1008 right here.
I'm moving into extension and 1009 I'm moving into lordosis right here.
And I 1010 get into position.
As I'm finishing my 1011 turn, as long as I didn't kick this way, 1012 as long as I didn't do anything silly, I'm 1013 done shifting my weight by the time I'm 1014 done with my takeaway.
And as I'm getting 1015 here, you can kind of see, like with my 1016 sacrum and stuff right here, that it's 1017 already starting to get back towards the 1018 other side.
1019 preparing me to start to move into this 1020 kind of scap drop, supination, pivoting 1021 off my trail side like this.
It's 1022 something that kind of happens natural 1023 when you learn how to move your backswing 1024 correctly.
1025 This is something that if anybody's done a 1026 swing review, they've heard me say a 1027 million times, and I'll continue to say 1028 this, is typically when you look at a 1029 problem in the golf swing, 1030 It's not what you're seeing.
It's probably 1031 something right before what you're seeing.
1032 It's more the effect.
The cause probably 1033 happened right before.
So if you're 1034 struggling with getting your pressure to 1035 move back correctly to the lead side, it's 1036 probably because you're not taking it back 1037 correctly.
Because as I start to move into 1038 my rotation, 1039 side bend, extension right here, and I get 1040 into that lordosis, as long as I maintain 1041 my kind of knee kick in place, as you see 1042 in the go backswing video.
1043 As I start to do this, I kind of have no 1044 choice.
See, as I'm kind of maxing out, 1045 see how it's kind of forcing me to do 1046 that?
1047 Because as I'm doing this and I'm getting 1048 my max turn, I'm already going back that 1049 way so that now I can drop this and get 1050 into my side bend position.
1051 So hopefully that answers it.
Probably 1052 should have read that beforehand.
1053 But more than likely, if you're struggling 1054 with the pressure shift, 1055 it's probably your back swing.
1056 Because that movement is very natural.
And 1057 just to expand upon that a little bit.
1058 Alright.
1059 Think of this guy.
1060 Alright.
Let's think of this guy.
1061 So if I took this guy and I started 1062 swinging this guy.
1063 I started kind of moving him back and 1064 forth.
1065 Would I really have to think about moving 1066 back to this side?
1067 If I got over here and I started moving 1068 this and I didn't naturally, I'd fall on 1069 this.
That's seven years of bad luck right 1070 here.
All right.
I don't need that.
1071 As I'm moving this weight right here, I 1072 can feel, okay, if I'm going to support 1073 this, I've got to let my body start to 1074 move into the opposite direction that this 1075 weight is swinging right here.
1076 This is a really good way to feel.
1077 The naturalness of, oh, I'm swinging this 1078 mass over here.
Well, I would naturally, 1079 as I'm starting to kind of max out on my 1080 motion, let my pressure start to shift 1081 back over to that side.
1082 That's a really good way to naturally feel 1083 it.
But what I would say is actually check 1084 your back.
1085 All right.
1086 All right, David.
1087 Discuss hand path.
1088 Swing path, 1089 into out sequence, 1090 show in slow motion down the line how to 1091 throw with the middle finger, bicep curl, 1092 and how the trail shoulder drops while the 1093 right knee kicks in.
1094 What is the sequence of events in which 1095 work together?
They all work together.
1096 They almost all work simultaneously.
1097 What is the clock position at the top?
1098 Depends on where you're talking about the 1099 clock.
Starting downswing.
through impact 1100 into out all right so david i'm going to 1101 answer some of this but you're definitely 1102 one of the ones that kind of kicked it 1103 into maybe a full webinar so let's see if 1104 i can figure this out discuss hand pass 1105 swing path end out sequence show in slow 1106 motion down the line how to throw the 1107 middle finger bicep curl how the trail 1108 shoulder drop right knee kicks in okay 1109 that's this i'm taking that as that's this 1110 right here 1111 That's the trail shoulder drop, the 1112 supination, the elbow going down, the 1113 right knee kicking in right here.
All 1114 right?
All of this is pretty much 1115 simultaneous.
1116 So as I'm working from here towards the 1117 top, 1118 the hand path and the shallowing can't go 1119 this way.
1120 Anything going in that direction, stop.
1121 So as I start to move into my side bend 1122 extension, getting up here towards the 1123 top, what direction are my hands going 1124 right now?
As I start to supinate, so I'm 1125 going to start to move into extension, 1126 start to move into this position right 1127 here.
What direction are my hands going?
1128 My hands, if anything, are actually moving 1129 slightly down and slightly away.
1130 Okay, now you're going to see some players 1131 that have a little bit more dramatic hand 1132 pass in transition.
1133 But what happens right here is the hand 1134 path actually moves down and slightly away 1135 in that initial transition.
As this scap 1136 starts to move down, my trail arm and hand 1137 move this way as I start to pivot this 1138 down.
1139 So you can see if I had this on right here 1140 and I kept going, you can see I'm right on 1141 my target line right now and now I can get 1142 to releasing it.
1143 So when you're thinking about what's 1144 happening to try to get in and out and 1145 with your hand path, the hand path is 1146 going to go down and a little bit away 1147 right here, never towards.
1148 Anytime you're getting here and going 1149 towards, it's going to be dead.
1150 So to kind of further elaborate just a 1151 little bit on that.
1152 The bicep curl and how the trail shoulder 1153 drops.
Well, this is what I just was 1154 talking about a second ago.
1155 Probably should just put that there.
1156 Thanks, animal.
1157 That's animal, by the way, if you didn't 1158 know.
1159 So when you get up here towards the top, 1160 the one thing that you really don't want 1161 to do is you don't want to start firing 1162 this tricep away.
Obviously, we don't want 1163 to push with the thumb.
We don't want to 1164 cast.
We don't want to do anything like 1165 that.
So as I'm in this position right 1166 here, 1167 My bicep right here is retaining, 1168 helping me retain my GDP spot, my GDP 1169 position, all right?
So my bicep is 1170 actually engaged right here as I'm 1171 starting to kick and drive in this way.
I 1172 don't want to fire my tricep and start 1173 pushing this club away.
So the movement, 1174 when you're going from here and you're 1175 starting to supinate, try to get aligned 1176 with the camera a little bit better.
1177 You're going from here and starting to 1178 supinate.
It's moving down and away as 1179 that scapula is going this way.
So you can 1180 see it's going down and away.
And as that 1181 starts to happen, 1182 my trail, 1183 leg, 1184 hip, foot are all working as a unit to get 1185 that to move into position.
And it happens 1186 pretty darn fast.
It's not like this is 1187 just like a slow thing.
1188 Because where max hand speed is going to 1189 be here, because think about it.
I've got 1190 to get from this position down to here 1191 with speed.
I can't wait all the way to 1192 impact and then start thinking about 1193 accelerating.
1194 The golf ball is already gone.
If I want 1195 this club to have max down here, well, at 1196 some point in time, I've got a decel.
So 1197 if you can see, I'll just kind of do this 1198 right here.
As I'm doing this.
1199 Like to get this to move fast, like this 1200 has to go and I've got to throw it.
Think 1201 about the throw.
If I'm throwing it from 1202 the top, it's because I'm trying to get 1203 the club to have speed down here because 1204 I've got to start getting rid of this 1205 stuff so that it can decel and snap down 1206 here at the bottom.
I'm not trying to get 1207 this to go from here, the hand path this 1208 way, accelerate, accelerate, accelerate, 1209 accelerate, and then go that way.
That's 1210 way too late.
1211 you're not going to get the energy 1212 transfer that way.
1213 Well, the middle finger right there, I'm 1214 feeling that the whole time from this 1215 position.
So as I get into setup right 1216 here, and I'm going towards the top, and I 1217 kind of feel that button getting this 1218 supination and that hand path moving this 1219 way, I'm feeling this kind of stay in that 1220 middle finger right here.
until it's time 1221 to snap and that's going to be where i'm 1222 really starting to kind of apply that 1223 pressure down here think of the conveyor 1224 belt so i'm here go here go here go like 1225 so i'm i'm still aware of it the whole 1226 time but when i get down here and i'm 1227 trying to snap it that's where i'm trying 1228 to feel that pressure really kind of take 1229 over but i'm always kind of aware of it 1230 but until i get this shallowing making the 1231 supination move and getting here, that's 1232 going to be where I'm really trying to 1233 throw, you know, kind of get that snap in 1234 there.
I'm throwing it from the top, but 1235 that's going to be where I'm really 1236 feeling that snap.
1237 All right.
So I hope that covers it.
1238 You don't get a little time.
1239 Yeah, I'll come back to that if I need to, 1240 David.
1241 Is wrist set and active?
1242 Or passive part of the golf swing?
What's 1243 the key to having supple wrists while 1244 still having face control?
The wrists are 1245 soft and you have your grip pressure.
1246 So is the wrist set active or passive?
1247 Well, 1248 it kind of depends.
1249 Are your wrists too dead?
1250 I see this all the time.
Players are 1251 making their takeaway and as they go back, 1252 they're not letting anything happen.
1253 They're just leaving it like this.
as they 1254 start to go back, and nothing ever 1255 happens.
1256 This goes into the grip pattern.
1257 I'll come back to you, David, at the end.
1258 This goes into why the grip is so 1259 important.
1260 So as you're taking your grip, and you're 1261 getting your trail hand on, and you're 1262 getting your lead hand on, the biggest 1263 problem is the players don't get enough in 1264 the fingers.
1265 As soon as you get it in the fingers, 1266 you start to feel a little bit of this 1267 club head.
When it's in the palm, this 1268 wrist tends to stay kind of an ulnar 1269 deviation right here.
You kind of really 1270 don't get any feedback.
It's why you'd see 1271 players bowl kind of put things in the 1272 lifeline, especially when they putt, 1273 because it kind of blocks out the wrist 1274 this way.
Bryson does that a little bit 1275 too.
1276 But as soon as you put it in the fingers 1277 right here, especially in your lead hand, 1278 you start to get a feel for the weight of 1279 the club.
1280 Okay, start to get a feel for it.
1281 And so is the wrist set active or passive?
1282 Well, as I'm going back, I've got to allow 1283 the wrist set to happen.
I've got to allow 1284 this pressure to help keep the club out in 1285 front of me right here.
I can't let it be 1286 dead.
1287 Now, as I start to allow for just a little 1288 bit of feel that pressure right there, I'm 1289 not really doing a whole heck of a lot as 1290 I go from here to the top.
1291 All right.
1292 I'm not trying to get here.
and then dump 1293 my wrist that way, because as soon as I do 1294 that, I'm going to want to go that way.
1295 So other than allowing in the fingers and 1296 feeling just a little bit right here, now 1297 I have a little bit of feel for the weight 1298 of the club.
As I'm moving into here, I 1299 can feel how now the weight of the club is 1300 starting to set the action for me.
1301 So I can't tell you like, oh, the wrists 1302 are just dead.
Oh, we'll use the rest of 1303 time.
Well, that one I can tell you, don't 1304 use the rest of time.
But you need to 1305 focus on if you're struggling with the 1306 wrist, one, getting the grip.
1307 Two, as you start to go back, having that 1308 little bit of just allowing the club, that 1309 little bit of pushing down right here, you 1310 can start to feel how the club just kind 1311 of sets up on the plane just a little bit 1312 right there and stays in front of you.
And 1313 kind of once you have that, you start to 1314 feel a lot of the weight of the club.
And 1315 as you start to feel the weight of the 1316 club, 1317 the supination action, the throwing 1318 action, 1319 You can start to throw it as hard as you 1320 want or you can throw it as soft as you 1321 want.
So you are kind of generating that 1322 motion a little bit.
But the setting, 1323 because I'm thinking that's where you're 1324 like is the wrists.
1325 There's a little bit here.
1326 But it all comes down in the fingers and 1327 feeling that pressure right here so that 1328 this club starts to set up naturally.
1329 Hey, well, that was actually all the 1330 submissions.
on five six so that was the 1331 first day submissions we got through those 1332 nice um let's see do the hands go out and 1333 up or out and left are you meaning on the 1334 way down david or where are you talking 1335 about the hands go out up or out and left 1336 here down deeper 1337 And then as you start to move this way, 1338 then they start to move in front.
And then 1339 as you start to get into the release, 1340 you're not trying to make the hands kind 1341 of go out and up this way.
You're not 1342 trying to get here and make them go that 1343 way.
As soon as you get to here, you don't 1344 want to be, the pivot is bringing the 1345 hands back down in front right here so you 1346 can start to release it because the 1347 shallowing aspect happens early.
1348 All right.
1349 You don't, you don't, there's no need to 1350 still be trying.
You don't, you're not 1351 trying to shallow out the club where 1352 you're right here.
If you're doing that, 1353 it's too late.
The face is going to be 1354 open.
So post impact, as I'm getting 1355 through here in my hand path, well, my 1356 hands are moving this way.
They're going 1357 in, they're not still continuing out this 1358 way.
1359 Okay.
1360 So hopefully that helps.
So out and up or 1361 out and left.
Yeah.
So they have to go a 1362 little bit this way.
They have to go a 1363 little bit to the left.
They're going out 1364 in this way.
Because if I'm a true kind of 1365 trebuchet right here, 1366 where I'm trying, or not trebuchet, but a 1367 true kind of like conveyor belt release, 1368 where are my hands going?
They're going 1369 this way underneath, 1370 releasing, then going out up and around 1371 right there.
But they're not going out 1372 this way further because it kind of pivot 1373 my body right here.
They're going this 1374 way.
They're still traveling on their arc.
1375 Shallow.
1376 here, this way.
It's going to feel a 1377 little bit down the target line, but if 1378 you map it out, they're not going out that 1379 way.
1380 All right.
1381 Well, ladies and gentlemen, I appreciate 1382 you stopping by today.
It looks like we're 1383 at the end of our rope.
We got a lot of 1384 questions up there.
1385 Let's see.
I'm going to try to get a 1386 couple of the ones that I saw before we do 1387 1388 But if you stood, if you, before I do 1389 that, if you stuck with me this long, 1390 thank you.
I hope you got something out of 1391 today because hopefully some of these 1392 questions you needed answered or you just 1393 need a little bit more clarification on.
1394 If you didn't get your question answered, 1395 I'm going to put something on the 1396 community.
1397 Okay.
1398 I'm going to put it on the community and I 1399 want you to put your questions there 1400 because I'm going to be back and then I'm 1401 going to answer it.
1402 Or answer them to the best of my ability 1403 to get you going.
1404 Oh, thank you, Mark.
Thank you, Mary.
1405 All right.
So I'm going to try to get a 1406 couple of these that were on here.
1407 Let's see.
I'm going to try to get back.
1408 There's a big screen right here.
1409 Why does my sequence break down when I go 1410 all the way back?
I'm 72 years young and 1411 very flexible from my age, but going all 1412 the way back causes timing issues.
1413 Michael, we probably have to see your 1414 swing.
1415 I got to see it.
1416 Typically, if you're going all the way 1417 back and something's breaking, it's 1418 usually because if you think of this kind 1419 of pivot with your leg right here, as 1420 you're going this way, something's giving 1421 in that you're either not.
1422 coiling correctly rather not coiling 1423 correctly into this so you're not getting 1424 kind of a natural kind of tension break to 1425 tell you to start kind of moving back this 1426 way and going the other direction um so 1427 what i'm thinking is that as you're going 1428 back at some point in time you probably 1429 quit rotating with your core and you 1430 either let your legs and hips break down 1431 or you get to here and you just start 1432 swimming with your arms 1433 Because it feels like you're never going 1434 to get there.
And so you probably start 1435 trying to turn instead of trying to get 1436 into extension.
1437 So my two bets, I got to see it, 1438 is going to be that you're not 1439 maintaining, you're not getting coiled 1440 into this hip.
1441 Or as you're starting to go back, you quit 1442 turning thinking you're turning all the 1443 way back.
And you just start swinging your 1444 arms.
And now your whole momentum thing 1445 are all out of whack.
1446 All right.
1447 Let's see.
1448 Stanley, yes, the replay will be posted.
1449 All right, it will be posted.
Peter, thank 1450 you.
David, thank you, thank you.
1451 Dennis, yes, we will post all of these.
1452 David, somewhere I put mine in the 1453 community, but it was kind of late.
Okay, 1454 and we'll get to you.
We'll get to you.
1455 Doug, thank you.
Got a lot out of it.
1456 Good.
Kevin, Stanley, thank you.
All 1457 right.
Well, I'm glad everybody seemed to 1458 enjoy it, seemed to get something out of 1459 it.
If you like this series, we're going 1460 to keep it going.
All right, I know some 1461 of these things you probably already know.
1462 but we're going to keep this going.
So I'm 1463 going to get that post in there.
You ask 1464 your questions.
We want you to get this.
1465 And we want this to kind of be a back and 1466 forth.
1467 All right.
Sometimes it can be just as 1468 simple.
I mean, I don't care what the 1469 question is.
I mean, a lot of y 'all have 1470 known me for a long time, whether you've 1471 seen me on the forum, the community, a 1472 swing review, a live lesson, you name it.
1473 I'm always answering something.
So I'm 1474 happy to do this because sometimes just 1475 getting that visual really helps.
And by 1476 the way, I didn't put it on the screen 1477 because I forgot to because I was too busy 1478 trying to help you all.
I still do have 1479 half off my unlimited and a discount on 1480 live lessons that I will put on the screen 1481 now.
1482 If you want to do one, I'll put it on the 1483 screen right now if I can find it.
1484 Well, it's supposed to be there.
1485 There we go.
1486 So if you want a discounted live lesson or 1487 if you want to do half off unlimited, let 1488 me know.
1489 I'll be happy to help you out.
1490 Thank you, Peter.
I appreciate it.
Tommy, 1491 thank you.
Thank you.
1492 Alton, thank you.
1493 John, thank you.
Daryl, thank you.
I 1494 appreciate it.
1495 I'll get that post up.
You put your 1496 questions if you want.
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1501 It's kind of what I do.
1502 All right, so I hope you got something out 1503 of it.
We'll get the replay posted as fast 1504 as possible.
Get your questions in.
Happy 1505 to show you.
Thanks for coming by.
1506 Hey, Mark, I'll put that up right there.
1507 There you go, Mark.
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1511 Kevin, yeah.
That's actually signed by 1512 Brady, by the way.
He signed that after 1513 his first Super Bowl.
So I've had that for 1514 23 years now.
1515 It's really tough to have that helmet 1516 living in Atlanta.
1517 Just saying.
Don't tell anybody.
1518 All right, everybody.
I'm glad you had a 1519 good time.
We'll get the replay.
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