Q-n-A Webinar 2: May 14

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Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, second webinar, May 14th 2025


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Those things popped up pretty fast.

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Hello, everybody.

Mike, Thomas, James, Bob, Doug.

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Chris B is in the house.

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We got the troublemaker Alex in the house.

That's scary.

Y 'all want to stay away from that one.

All right, everybody.

Welcome to Q &A session two.

I will be your humble swing guide or attempt to be your humble swing guide today.

And thanks for spending your evening with me.

I hope everybody enjoyed.

Session number one, I hope you got a whole lot out of it.

I think that we covered some really good topics.

I think tonight there might be some kind of reruns because questions are the same, but as we all know, further clarification can't hurt.

So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give it a couple minutes because I see the numbers popping up on my screen right here.

And I'm letting everybody kind of pile in the room before I get started.

Hey, Steve, how are we doing today?

Dennis?

David, fantastic.

So we all learned something, right?

I hope so.

Hopefully we'll learn a little bit more tonight.

And I want to start by saying just a little bit.

Everybody's going to get answered, okay?

I'm going to answer everybody.

Remember, this series is going to be going on through this month and next month.

So keep posting your questions.

Keep putting everything in the community.

You're going to get answered.

All right.

I may not be able to get to some people because I had some postings today saying, hey, Craig, can you throw this in tonight's webinar?

And I'm like, well, you know, the early bird gets the worm.

I've got a lot of people ahead that I want to get answered that are really eager or that were really eager to get their questions posted.

But fear not.

If you don't get your question answered today, I will answer it.

That's why this series is going on for the next two months is because.

We got time to do it.

So I'm going to get everybody answered, all right?

And remember, there are no dumb questions.

If you think it's a silly question, still post it.

I might go ahead and answer it on the community, but it may be something that I want to elaborate on a little bit more because it needs more talking about.

So don't fret.

Don't be scared to post anything.

All right.

Hey, Carver, how are we doing today?

All right, I'm going to give it about one more minute and then we will get going because I keep seeing y 'all can't see it.

But on my end, I got these numbers kind of climbing on my screen.

And well, actually, I can talk about this while we're doing that.

We had one question that came in through the first session that I didn't answer.

And I want to let that person know that I do have their question and their question was.

Living in the Northeast with limited indoor space makes working on the swing difficult for roughly half the year and would love a sequential set of drills and exercises that could be used during the downtime with or without club usage that would fit into lessons kind of working on the trail side pattern.

Now, I spoke to Chuck about that one, and that's actually going to be a series that he's going to be working on.

So it's not that I ignored your question.

But that's actually something that he's working on on the back end that will explain it much better than I ever will.

Because I got a really good response on the first webinar where somebody said this was the good cliff notes to Chuck's master literature.

And I was like, all right, just enough to pass the test up here.

It's like that's how I got through school.

Hello, Fred.

Hey Steven, how are we doing today?

Brent, how do you view and post on the community?

Brent, if you go to the main page or the home screen, you will see up at the top, you'll see a big thing that says community.

When you go to community, when you go there, the very first pinned post, you're going to see a button that says start here, and that'll tell you what each category is for.

Now for these sessions, you must post in the live sessions section.

That's where I'm looking.

If you post in GOAT code, if you post in C4, if you post in 19th hole, I'm going to go ahead and answer those thinking that's just something you kind of want a quick report to.

All right.

Larry.

Now, Larry, you know where to post the questions.

Why is the takeaway so important?

Well, it's important.

You don't hit the ball with it, but it's important.

Can you elaborate on eliminating push from the arm or wrist?

I can, but I got my list to get through, bud.

Put that up on the community.

It might be in today's.

I think somebody asked somewhat the same question.

But since my ticker is kind of slowing up, let's get started.

So round two.

And remember, when you post a question, I'm like Ron Burgundy up here.

I'm going to read it how it's written.

I'm not going to change anything.

So when you post it, make sure it's how you want it said.

So session number two, let's get started with a good one.

Where I left off was active or passive risk.

So this one's going to be finish, finish, finish.

I can't seem to cover the ball.

And then finish with my weight transfer to my front foot, standing upright, looking at the target.

So I'm taking that, as you can't seem to finish, in a nice full roundabout way.

How can I get the weight transfer to happen naturally?

How can I get the weight transfer to happen naturally?

Well, that's a little bit of a different question than staying covered over the ball.

But I do have some thoughts on that.

So how can I get the weight transfer to happen naturally?

Because that's part of the trail side is really using feel.

So there's two ways that I like to do it in particular.

And for those of you that have been with Rotary and even watched some of my C4 videos back in the day, one great thing that I always do is I get alive with my feet.

That's the easiest way to start understanding weight transfer and getting moving in the swing.

And what I mean by getting alive in the feet, is just start waking them up.

There's nothing wrong with moving a little bit laterally like this when you're trying to waken up your body, when you're trying to feel what natural weight transfer is.

Yeah, I can get a five-year-old to do this.

If you start to make some swings and just take swing out of the equation right now.

Right now, you're trying to feel moving weight.

Allow your feet to lift.

So start to make a swing where you start to go back and you let your left foot lift and then start to let your right foot lift.

Just getting your feet awake like this, this will help you start to feel what it's like to move weight from your trail side to your lead side back and forth.

And like I said, if you take golf out of the equation for a second, just hit a couple shots that way.

We're not going for perfection right now.

You're trying to feel some weight transfer.

So get a club in your hand.

You can do this in small nine to three swings.

You can do this in three quarter swings.

But get a club in your hand.

And I think I actually grabbed the wrong club.

If I hit the ceiling, you'll be in for it.

So as you start to go back, just start to lift your feet a little bit.

Just so you can feel moving from one side to another.

Don't worry about perfection of what's going on with the club head or anything.

But let your feet lift so that one's lightening and the other one's getting a little bit heavier that way.

And then you can actually start to feel how you can ramp up your speed.

All right.

Because you'll start to kind of feel it almost, I call it in my swinger view, it's kind of like a rudder system.

You know, if you think about like, you know, a duck paddling or a rudder moving back and forth like this, if you get the feet alive and moving, you can start to move really fast, but you can feel naturally how to get into your trail side and how to get into your lead side.

Now, the other part of that question.

was can't seem to cover the ball, finish the weight, transfer on the right foot.

Full finish.

If you're transferring your weight, okay, if you're transferring your weight, but you're not finishing, more than likely, and you're not covering the ball, more than likely what's happening is as you're coming down, you're early extending, all right?

You're starting to create a little bit of stand-up right here.

which is going to raise your chest okay so if i start to early extend too soon for my trail side my chest is going to raise my head's going to come up and as i come through the strike it's going to be really hard to get to a full finish because look at what happens i'm going to kind of exaggerate a little bit if i really push from that side what happens you can see i'm falling back on my trail foot right now so reading this user's questions I would make sure that you're not early extending and pushing that hip too far towards the ball because what you're missing is the fact that as you start to release the club and your core and your lead leg has posted correctly, that momentum is going to whip you around to a full follow through.

I don't have to try to finish.

It's one Our kind of pet peeves is working the swing backwards that way.

The finish is a great diagnostic tool.

Looking at somebody's finish can tell you a lot about what they did in their swing.

But it's a byproduct.

It's a safe deceleration of motion.

So you should never have to try to finish.

If you're moving through your core correctly, you're posting up, and you're letting the snap and the whip, you should be able to reach a full finish without any problems.

But what I would check, is i would check to make sure that you're not early extending all right question number two supination exactly when do we do this move i think it has to be at the very end of the backswing when the club has stopped moving momentarily the club kind of never really stops but yes it's at the top of the backswing is this is going to be where we really start to kind of supinate so if i exaggerate right now i'm here, and then I move into supination.

All right.

So as soon as I get to the top and I move into the transition, that's going to be where I'm moving into supination.

Otherwise, you're just trying to steer the club.

Correct.

Because most players, they get here and they get so concerned with the fact that they have to square up the club or they have to power it that they start pushing and throwing too soon.

Now, let me clarify that because this popped in my head literally as I was saying that.

There's a difference between a proper throw and a cast, okay?

So as they're up at the top and they start throwing the angle of their wrist too soon, that would be steering the club.

So I need to get this built in as long club shots are tending to go left.

If your long club shots are tending to go left, then more than likely you are pushing and steering from the top.

that as you're starting to drive down, you're taking the trail shoulder, you're taking the trail arm, you're taking the trail hand, and you're starting to steepen the pitch of this shaft early in an attempt to get power or square up the club because that feels like a very powerful motion.

And when you start to do this, you can see that the pitch of the shaft and the club are starting to swing this little bit left.

And so that can definitely bring about the potential of hitting a pole.

What does the lead wrist have to do to support the trail wrist that is supinating?

Well, that's a good question.

So what is the lead wrist really doing right here?

What is the lead wrist really there for?

We know that we use it in the takeaway, just as for those that watch the hand webinar.

We know that it's helping set the club up as we're going down our railroad tracks right here.

But what is the lead wrist really doing as I start to transition?

Well, I'm kind of just letting it get out of the way, to be honest with you.

Both arms and hands are still doing something.

Both sides of your body are still doing something.

But my lead wrist, what I'm really trying to do is let it react to what my trail wrist is doing.

So my lead wrist is in a supporting role because of my grip in the fingers, palm, pushing down on the club, supporting the weight.

But as I start to supinate.

and I start to make my motion coming down, I'm trying to let this lead wrist react to the fact that my extension is going to get a little bit greater, that I'm supinating with my trail, because if I let my lead wrist react, then I really don't have to worry about trying to create a massive amount of flexion and impact or a massive amount of bow, because your lead wrist is going to react to your trail wrist.

So if I'm standing right here, if I.

take my trail wrist and go into extension what does my lead wrist do well my lead wrist goes into flexion right here and vice versa so if i'm at the top and i'm taking my trail wrist this way what was my lead wrist doing my lead wrist is going into flexion i didn't have to make that happen okay as if i get up here and i start to push the button to get a quick supination right here As I make that motion right there, I'm allowing my lead wrist to follow because this is a trail side guided swing.

So if you're struggling with what to do with the lead wrist up there at the top, you don't want to kind of do anything with it.

You don't need to do anything with it.

If you need to do some specialty shots, yeah, you have to add more.

But for a standard stock every day, I'm going to make my golf swing.

I'm going to get up here to the top.

And as I get up here to the top, I'm going to supinate.

I'm letting my lead wrist kind of go along for the ride because my trail side is directing the entire motion so hopefully that helps that member all right let's see number three i would like some clarification on lateral movement and how it works in a trail side pattern i know there has to be lateral movement Correct.

But I don't quite understand how you can have lateral movement and the ideas of pivoting off the trail foot and staying back behind the ball all at the same time.

If you could demystify this tonight, it would be grateful.

Okay.

Let me see if I can demonstrate this or explain it as clearly as I can.

Yes, there is lateral motion in the swing.

All right.

So one thing that you have to realize is that as I start to go throughout the swing and I move up towards the top, I will start to have some recentering and my pelvis will have to start to move laterally.

You're not trying in the golf swing to literally hang back and stay on this trail leg.

So the pelvis right here, there has to be some lateral motion.

It's the same thing even if you think about the old lead side pattern.

As this moves laterally, my spine.

is going to start to tilt back as i move into side bend right here so you can see how my hips and pelvis are moving right now as i move into side bend what are my hips doing okay my hips are shifting laterally right here okay so in a trail side pattern when i move into side bend that's what's shifting my pelvis laterally this way And the ideas of pivoting off the trail foot and staying behind the golf ball.

Well, the ideas of pivoting off the trail foot and staying behind the golf ball isn't that you're trying to stay on this back leg and hit.

Okay, that's not what you're trying to do.

What you're trying to do is not get towards the top and shift all your mass to your lead side to where you get into a position that you can't add any rotational speed.

So if I'm pivoting off my trail leg and I'm trying to get some rotational speed, and I get up to the top and I dump all my mass, okay?

And let me kind of clarify this.

Mass, this is mass, all right?

This is my weight, like my big body moving from right to left right here.

I'm shifting my mass.

Pressure is what I'm getting from the ground, okay?

So pressure.

Like right now, my pressure is rapidly changing.

Like you can have fun with this on a force plate.

If I'm going like this, I'm changing what my ground force leverage is right now.

I'm changing my vertical force right here.

All right.

That's pressure.

What I'm getting back and from the ground right here.

Mass is me, like my big weight.

And staying behind the ball at the same time.

Well, that's the thing.

As I move up here towards the top and I start to pivot with my trail side, my pressure is going to increase on my lead side.

It has to.

My trail foot's starting to get light right now, so it's got to be going somewhere.

Right now, both my pressure and my mass are on this side, but as my trail foot starts to unweight right here, my pressure is starting to increase here on my lead side.

Chuck is trying to say is if you take your mass and you shift all your mass over in your transition, like literally go like this.

Well, from this position, I've got nothing I can add for my trail side to get any rotational speed flow.

So the feeling to still be able to get rotational speed from here is to allow my pressure is still going to increase on that side, but to get this driving.

to provide juice, but not jump all of my mass over there at once because now I have nothing I can really fire with.

Okay?

I think that's all the question.

And so when I do that and I drive from this side and I move into side bend, head behind the ball, at making this motion into side bend and allowing my pelvis to shift over here, I can stay behind the ball this way.

Okay?

because i don't want to dive and get out ahead of the golf ball this is what i call like in you know my lessons like a heavy lead leg when you get a heavy lead leg too soon you're never going to get it posted up there's too much mass on it there's too much pressure right here you're never going to get this posted i can't i don't have enough time to try to get that posted up before i get to the golf ball so when i start to shift my pressure over here and might start to move laterally as I move into side bin, that motion's pretty snappy, okay?

Because I don't want to get too heavy because I'll never get posted up, and then I will start sliding out ahead of the golf ball.

So hopefully that helps.

All right.

Let's see.

I just wanted to make sure there was nothing going on up here that's.

Okay.

So hopefully that helps clarify for that member.

and y 'all at home okay let's see number four i'm trying to extend my trail arm into the backswing and you're encouraging me to do so yes so we want the trail arm to maintain its width in the backswing maintaining the extension of that trail arm It takes me back with my core and keeps me from just lifting.

Good.

I'm noticing that Rory and Hogan triggered their backswings by extending their arms before starting their swings.

Does that seem like a good way to initiate the feel?

There are other ways.

Well, I can't really say for Hogan, but I have watched Rory enough.

I don't want to per se.

and say that Rory is starting it with his arms?

Because when you watch Rory as he starts back, you will see how he kind of gets this kind of extended squeezing of the arms look, a la Hogan, but this really tight and locked in look.

But as he starts to go back, he's not doing this and then starting back with his arms.

Like that's not triggering it and then moving.

If you watch Rory, if you watch Tiger and you watch.

A lot of the great players, their first move.

Roy right here, in my eyes, as he's getting here and as he gets this locked out, you're going to see that once he sets this into position, he starts to move laterally.

so I don't want the trigger.

Ideally, I don't want the trigger for your golf swing to be arms.

All right, because typically once you get the arms going, they're off to the races is really.

Nothing you can do about the arms once they kind of get going too much and there's kind of nothing involved in the body.

What I see from Roy is that he gets here and he gets the arms locked out tight, really tightens this core right here.

And you'll really see it's not like as dramatic as a Henrik Stenson, but you'll really see that his first move is really getting that lateral motion, getting that weight into this side right here.

So instead of using the arms, to kind of trigger, use that as like the last line before the trigger.

All right, I'm going to get here.

If you like that feeling, get here.

I'm going to get my arms, my trail arm, my lead arm are all locked out.

They're nice and straight.

But to get the train moving off the tracks, I want to see some movement.

I want to see some early load as being a little bit more of the trigger.

Because I'm afraid if you try to do this and then move your arms, that's all you're going to do is sit there and then move your arms.

Because most players you will see started with some type of lateral motion.

So hopefully that helps.

All right.

Number five.

I understand the takeaway.

That's good.

And how important it is to get to the good top position of the backswing.

But after getting to a good position at the top, The transition to transfer the weight to the front leg, shallow the club, is more difficult because it's dynamic, okay?

Please explain or maybe give a drill to do a good transition and also explain what the muscles in what order to use, legs, hands, arms during the downswing.

Well, I'll kind of go backwards on that.

So as you're starting to make the transition, as you're starting to go through, the first thing that's going to happen is that as you start to reach the top, you are going to start to recenter and start to shift your pressure back a little bit to the lead side right here.

Now, in what order to use the legs, hands and arms?

Well, the first one, I don't really want you using your arms at all.

All right.

I want you to kind of go back and think about some of Chuck's videos where Chuck talks about how, you know, the arms are kind of the spokes on a wheel.

All right.

I don't really want you even kind of trying to do anything with your arms, but legs or hands.

Well, this movement right here, this is all kind of simultaneous right here.

All right.

I'm not trying to move my hand independently of moving my leg, but as I start to move my pressure back right here and my core starts to drive, my inner adductors are going to fire right here to help me start pulling some weight to my lead side as my trail leg.

And for me, I'm kind of in the adage of squishing the bug where I'm really kind of getting that trail toe, trail knee, trail leg, trail side driving.

I'm really trying to pivot off that side so I can make that as fast as possible.

So to me, this motion is a unit.

I don't like segmenting that.

And I think that's part of the problem, especially since we're trying to recruit the fascia and we're trying to make the swing dynamic.

is if you break it off into too many components, then you start to lose a little bit of the force through the trees because that's not how it works.

I mean, you can, if you were to, if we're just going to use like a baseball analogy, now I'm not a major league pitcher.

So anybody out there, but I'm not going to sit here and teach somebody to throw like this.

I'm not going to say, okay, step your foot, get your arm here.

Use your chest, use your arms, use your hand.

I mean, I'm already tongue-tied trying to do that.

I would have the person first start moving.

I'd have the person start trying to develop a little bit of coordination with this, okay?

And so what ends up happening is this motion, even though, yes, I'm getting back over this side and I'm starting to pull and my hands are starting to go on, all of this.

is kind of going all at once because that's what I'm trying to get to happen even though everybody's kind of going at a different rate everybody's kind of going at a different distance I'm trying to get all of this to be one motion and I think that if you try to split it up or if you get into your head and you're like okay I've got to do this I've got to do this okay now I've got my shoulder blade going down so I can get that scapula locked right here and I'm going to use my adductors right here to kind of squeeze my knees because I don't want to squat this way and as I start to use that and I drive for my trail The golf swing doesn't work like that.

This movement is supposed to be more of a natural feel.

This movement is supposed to be more of taking the concept of understanding the conveyor belt, where you're getting into the supination, the deviation, and the rotation, and then starting to feel, okay, well, how can I take that motion and make it snappier?

How can I take that skipping of the stone analogy or the underhanded softball pitch?

So I don't want you to really.

Think about all that.

That's kind of our job is to figure out like what's kind of going on, but I think that will actually break it.

So maybe give a good drill for the transition.

Well, it kind of depends on what you need because you gave me a lot right there.

So it kind of depends on what you need.

If you're not feeling the body, one of the ones that I really like, like if you're, if you have the tendency to just go to the top and when you get up here towards the top, Every motion is just firing.

That's the first thing that I want to do.

No matter what I do, I can't seem to comprehend moving my body without firing my arms immediately first.

We'll take the arms out of the equation first.

I love kind of taking that and doing the old resting on the shoulder where you get up here and you just rest it on your shoulder right here.

How am I going to get this club to this ball right here?

How am I going to get this club to this ground?

I don't want you to swing this club or swing your arms.

So if I wasn't allowed to move my arms and hands right now, they're here.

They're dead on my shoulder right here.

The only way I can do that is move my body.

I'm not allowed to do anything with my arms and hands right now.

So the only way I can move this is move my body and then let the club come down and swing.

So you can see.

It's not going to be as pretty as it would be in a normal golf swing.

But what you're going to notice, if you get up here and just kind of rest this, and then you start to just sequence your body down, you can see what's happening.

If I do nothing with my arms and hands and my core starts to lead the way, the club is going to come down from a shallow position and then start getting into the release.

And this is literally me just taking all my arms out of the swing.

And so you can take that same feeling right here.

And then you can start putting your arms here and saying, OK, well, I know what it feels like to not do anything with my arms.

So let me go through that.

Let me feel the same thing of kind of almost leaving my arms there for a second just to get my body going.

If you just really have that hard time of kind of firing arms and hands.

Now, a second drill I really like for that.

which kind of puts them all in perspective, because as you're saying, like what goes first, the hands, the legs, the arms and hands is kind of like the super supinator drill.

And I can actually show you and actually now I'm thinking about it, I can actually show you Chuck doing it.

So that would literally be getting here and then feeling this whole motion.

So I'm getting into this position and I'm feeling the supination, the side bend.

And my hips starting to move a little bit laterally like this because I'm feeling a little bit of kind of, you know, squishing the bug, so to speak.

So I'm right here and just doing this, just getting all these pieces together where I'm feeling kind of the tip of the shaft, the supination or the pushing of the button.

So I'm feeling the supination.

I'm feeling the side bend and I'm letting my trail side and I'm letting my core start to pivot.

Like this is a really good one.

to get the feel of what you're trying to do coming down and i'll show you actually a good one over here let's see well i thought i knew what i was doing but apparently i don't all right there we go all right so hopefully you should be able to see my screen right now okay and if you can see my screen can everybody see my screen i don't don't know back to tab all right you can everybody can see my screen right now now that i just did what i did okay perfect all right so if i let me go to my system right here and we're gonna get to chuck And let's go over here.

Right here.

Okay.

So like what I was just showing you right there, and this is a friendly reminder, if you don't follow us on all socials, it's a good thing to do.

You can learn some stuff there too.

So watch Chuck right here.

What I want you to take notice of, and this is kind of what he's doing is like the super supernator.

So you're going to see he's letting the shaft pitch back, moving into side bent.

And look at how he's allowing his trail side and his core to move through.

And you can see that his pelvis is starting to move a little bit laterally right there.

But his head and his mass aren't diving forward.

So he's going to sit there for a second.

He's going to sit there for a second, do a couple pumps, do a couple pumps.

And then as he gets that feel for it, he's going to blend it all into one motion and take it all the way to the ball.

So you can see now in perfect GDP, getting the impact and letting the club release.

But that all started because he's trying to feel that throw of the hands and he's letting the throw of the hands, the supination, the side bend and the pivoting from the trail side, bring everything into impact.

He really hasn't had to do much of anything to get to that position.

So that's a really good drill.

Hopefully that kind of expands upon a little bit of where we're at with this.

No video, just Demio screen.

Uh-oh.

Wait a minute.

It said it was there.

Let's try this again.

See, I can't see the notes once this happens.

What about now?

Nope.

All right.

Well, we'll work on that one.

I'll put it up on the next time.

My apologies.

So we got it to work, but it's not working now, but Essentially the main thing is It's getting this to pitch as this is driving so you can see my head and nothing's going crazy with this and then as I'm doing this Coming down and blending it all into one motion, so I'll figure out Why it's not it started to switch was there for a second Let's see.

I'll give it one more go and then I'm going to go to the other ones because I don't want to waste anybody's time.

All right.

What about now?

Anything?

All right.

Chris, all right.

Perfect.

Maybe.

Got something?

All right, I'm going to minimize this.

Everybody seeing this?

We got one, two.

I get three.

Okay, everybody's seeing this.

Perfect.

So we'll try this again.

So here's Chuck, and this is kind of what we call the supination or the super supernator right here.

And so what you'll see is that as he's moving through this, you'll see he's moving into side bend.

The pitch of the shaft is supinating and you'll see how his lower half is starting to move forward because that trail side is getting involved right there.

So as you move into side bend right there, that's going to be how that pelvis kind of starts to move laterally naturally back that way.

So just kind of starting at the top and getting the feel for kind of making all these movements synonymous right here.

Just blending the supination, the side bend, letting the pelvis move.

And so you'll see that after he does that a couple times, now he's going to take that same feeling and let it work into the strike right here and into the release.

So all that is just trying to make all of this just that throwing pattern where we get into the supination, the side mid, and letting that lateral motion and pivoting off of that trail leg right there.

Make sense?

Hopefully.

All right.

So I'm glad I got that to work.

Where is that video posted?

It's somewhere.

That one is on Instagram.

It's somewhere on the site.

If not, I'll put it on the community for you, David.

But that's a really good way of getting that.

Okay.

I lost my notes.

So hopefully that helps out with kind of getting a good feeling with that.

Because one of the main things is by the time you kind of get down to the ball.

The downswing happens so fast.

And remember, when you're trying to make this downswing, we have to shallow out the club, obviously.

And we've got to get to a point where this club starts to deviate or your wrist starts to deviate and squares up.

So we've got to have this speed component with the squaring.

You can't really think your way through that.

All right.

It's kind of like you think you're dead.

It's got to be a movement.

And that's why, you know, just with Chuck sitting there doing that, he's training the blending of that.

What's the feel of what I'm trying to do?

How can I get this faster?

How can I speed all this up and make this all this kind of one piece motion?

I mean, if you follow to axiom, you can really get that same feel the same way where, you know, we're really focusing on getting this kind of look to the swing.

well as i'm sitting here doing this like if i just sit here and i get the club going like that so i'm staying in pronation then i'm moving into supination all right and if you're doing this at home you can start to put this together yourself so just stand right here and go into pronation and go into supination well if i just did it with my arm right there all right and i just did it right here i'd start to kind of bottom out right here all right But if I wanted to kind of make this into a golf swing, I'd go pronation, supination.

I'd start letting my body react to this motion.

Well, how would I speed all this up?

Well, if I move a little bit more in the side bin, I pivot a little bit more off my trail leg, I can start to create a lot more snap that way.

And you can see I'm still sitting here talking to you.

So it's got to be some effortless speed in there.

It's not me trying to force that.

I'm using the combination of the conveyor belt with letting my pivot and my rotational force really help ramp it up.

So I can create a lot of speed that way.

Okay.

Well, after failure number one on screen share, we've learned that.

So I learned something today.

So I'm going to take that.

Number six.

Would you please show proper wrist hand position for the entire swing, especially during the takeaway and the top of the backswing?

For the entire swing?

Okay.

As a side note, what I would do is I would go watch the hack motion videos.

that Chuck shot, he'll talk about the flexion and extension, and he'll actually has one.

I think it's the day where he shot 66, I think.

But if you just type hack motion in the search box, Chuck will give you much better detail than I can here, but I'll shoot for the stars.

And for posterity, I'll do it from both views.

So from this view, the wrist position from the takeaway on.

All right.

So as I start to move back in my backswing right here, my trail wrist right now, and I'll do it from face off, my trail wrist right now is inflection and my lead wrist is in extension.

And as I start to make my takeaway right here, you can see I start to add just a little bit of setting or a little bit of radial deviation with my lead wrist right here.

Not a whole lot, but that's just getting me.

I can feel a little bit of the weight of the club.

It's what's supporting it.

So to this point right here, I haven't done a whole lot with my wrist.

All right.

My lead wrist is still an extension.

My trail wrist is still inflection.

Now, as I move from the takeaway and I continue to go towards the top, I'm going to continue to add a little bit of setting.

My lead wrist right there as my trail wrist starts to set and I move into a little bit of extension.

But what I really want you to pay close attention to as I'm doing that, my shoulder plane and stuff are changing because I'm.

you know, want to look at y 'all.

But as I'm doing that, my wrist really aren't doing a whole lot.

All right.

And that's usually what I find much more often than not, is that players, especially in their backswing, I was taught this by a well-known instructor.

A lot of other people I know were taught this by certain instructors of really getting those arms and hands active very, very soon to kind of get them out of the way.

But as I'm going through here, I want to maintain a lot of width and I want my arms and hands quiet.

And so as I'm moving this way, my wrists are quiet.

I start to add a little bit of set right here.

My trail wrist is staying in flexion right here.

My lead wrist is staying in extension.

And as the club starts to set up right here, it's not really changing that much.

I'm still in a little bit of extension.

up here at the top and i think that some players try to get this look to it they're like oh i gotta be flat at the top so they end up like this they end up super bowed you have your anomalies david duvall dustin johnson what have you but that's not really how you need to do it you actually want to try to feel like you're maintaining this cupping and this lead wrist all the way to 1000 the top which for a trail wrist player 1001 that means this trail wrist is still doing 1002 very little 1003 Okay, 1004 now as we get here and I start to 1005 supinate, 1006 my extension is going to increase a little 1007 bit in my trail wrist.

My lead wrist is 1008 going to get into a little bit more 1009 flexion right here.

1010 As I start to supinate and come down, I 1011 start to pivot.

But until about this point 1012 right here, still not a whole lot has 1013 happened with my wrist.

Still very quiet.

1014 I'm getting into some supination right 1015 here.

You're not really going to see.

a 1016 whole lot of change in this pattern until 1017 you start trying to square up the club and 1018 this is where the speed picks up and the 1019 squaring of the face happens because now 1020 i'm going to start to move into deviation 1021 with my wrist in pronation so i got to 1022 start to have some rotation right here but 1023 that really doesn't happen a whole lot 1024 until i'm down here into gdp and that's 1025 going to be where i'm really going to see 1026 this ramp up as i start to work through 1027 here And then for me, my feeling is once I 1028 get to here, I almost have that feeling of 1029 letting the button of the club point back 1030 towards the camera.

1031 And so as I get to here and I let this 1032 snap right here, I have that feeling of 1033 almost letting this button in the club 1034 point back towards the camera where you 1035 can see my trail wrist is now in a lot of 1036 flexion and my lead wrist is back in a lot 1037 of extension right here.

And that's going 1038 to be where I kind of have that.

going 1039 back the other direction that's going to 1040 be that snap right there from face on as 1041 i'm setting up here and i'm getting into 1042 my grip and this is why you know if you 1043 want to exaggerate it a little bit it's a 1044 really good way to get the feeling or get 1045 the hands out where you really get your 1046 goat grip right here but you kind of have 1047 that feeling where you've got this cupping 1048 right here this is almost feeling bowed 1049 right here and as i start to go back i'm 1050 rotating 1051 loading when I get into this position I 1052 haven't done a whole lot my lead wrist my 1053 trail wrist haven't done a whole lot I've 1054 got a little bit of set and that's just 1055 because this is pushing down that's 1056 helping keeping that club out as I move 1057 from here I'm still feeling like my lead 1058 wrist is staying in extension as the club 1059 starts to set up now as I move from here 1060 I'm moving into supination my lead wrist 1061 is starting 1062 to move up to a little bit of flexion.

So 1063 my trail wrist moves into a little bit 1064 more extension.

But as I move into GDP 1065 right here, I haven't really done a whole 1066 lot.

And then from here, this is going to 1067 be where I have that deviation into 1068 rotation.

And now I'm down here into 1069 impact.

1070 And then I have that feeling of this, 1071 where it almost feels like the butt end of 1072 the club is working behind me.

Because 1073 remember, in a trail side release, I'm not 1074 trying to go like this.

I'm not trying to 1075 release it like this.

I'm feeling 1076 supination, deviation, rotation.

1077 Supination, deviation, 1078 rotation.

So as I do that, 1079 that's going to be how my lead wrist is 1080 bowed right here, or inflection.

1081 And then I let it kind of almost feel like 1082 it's almost swatting.

1083 from underneath.

1084 And the beauty about it is it's still de 1085 -lofting the club as you're doing that 1086 because not only is your lead wrist 1087 forward, it's de-lofting, but you're 1088 still getting that nice forward lane right 1089 there.

1090 So for whoever asked that question, I hope 1091 that answers it.

1092 All right.

1093 Number seven.

How do you rate an order of 1094 importance 1095 What all the hands should be doing in the 1096 golf swing.

How do you rate in an order of 1097 importance?

1098 Also, how do the arms relate to that?

1099 Well, the arms should be doing very low.

1100 So you shouldn't really be thinking a 1101 whole bunch about your arms.

1102 Also, how low should the hands be in the 1103 golf swing, especially during impact?

1104 Well, you never want to try to force your 1105 hands low.

All right.

And then we could 1106 get really crazy on this because we could 1107 start getting into like what happens 1108 during parametric acceleration and stuff 1109 like that.

but you should never be 1110 striving to force your hands to be low um 1111 how would you define handing having a high 1112 handle at impact so a high handle at 1113 impact as you start to come down having a 1114 high let me put this down for a second 1115 having a high handle at impact would be 1116 getting into here and being like this that 1117 would be kind of having a high handle and 1118 i think there was a follow-up to that 1119 Why would you not want to be doing this in 1120 your golf swing or would you?

Well, that's 1121 a good question.

What is typically going 1122 to cause a high handle?

1123 A high handle is typically going to be 1124 caused by me early extending and then 1125 casting, pushing on the club too soon.

1126 I've got to do something to get out of the 1127 way of hitting the ground.

So I'm standing 1128 up too soon because I'm pushing this way 1129 and I'm still trying to get some speed.

So 1130 I'm snapping it in.

this way and also try 1131 not to take you know one of those big old 1132 divots but that doesn't mean that the 1133 hands aren't a little bit higher and I 1134 think maybe that's kind of where you're 1135 going with that question because if you 1136 think about setup right here when I get 1137 into my setup and I get into position 1138 I've got some angle right here.

So you can 1139 see like from my elbow down my forearm to 1140 my wrist to the club, I've got some angle 1141 right here.

Well, if I'm going to have max 1142 speed, it's not going to be returning 1143 right back to that same angle.

1144 Okay.

It's going to be the wrist snapping.

1145 So there's going to be some shaft droop 1146 and I'm going to be moving into some owner 1147 deviation right here.

That's going to be 1148 much more powerful.

for me to hit the ball 1149 allowing this to have some snap in it 1150 right here versus keeping it the handle 1151 low like this because typically if you're 1152 going to keep the handle low like that 1153 through there you're actually going to 1154 kind of delete some face rotation because 1155 you're going to be holding on to something 1156 so there's a difference between having a 1157 little bit of normal shaft droop and a 1158 little bit of higher hands at impact 1159 because you're maxing out on your release 1160 because when i'm getting down here i'm 1161 trying to throw this as hard as i can This 1162 is going to be kind of max position I can 1163 get to.

1164 So having the handle a little bit higher 1165 and having a little bit of shaft group, 1166 that's why if you draw a line on somebody, 1167 you're not typically going to see that 1168 their hands are perfectly where they were 1169 at address.

1170 And since we know that this thing works 1171 right now, we will do it that way.

1172 So let's use the master himself.

1173 And so if I, now this is a wedge, so this 1174 isn't going to kind of be maxed.

But if I 1175 kind of draw a little bit of a line right 1176 here, I'll just draw a little bit of a 1177 line right there just as a frame of 1178 reference.

You'll see as he goes through a 1179 swing, 1180 where are his hands right now at impact?

1181 They're slightly higher and above because 1182 he's maxing out.

1183 on that owner deviation right there.

I 1184 mean, this one is not maxed out on it, but 1185 he has much more here than he did at 1186 address.

Okay.

1187 That's different than having a high 1188 handle.

Okay.

So hopefully y 'all saw that 1189 first thing.

And secondly, that kind of 1190 helps answer that question.

1191 All right.

1192 Let's see.

I saw something on the screen.

1193 All right.

Thank you, David.

1194 Okay.

1195 Question number eight.

1196 I've always thought about throwing 1197 baseball, passing a football as an action 1198 where the throwing arm is not straight, 1199 but in the goat swing, I'm learning that I 1200 need to keep my trail arm straight in the 1201 backswing.

until at least left arm 1202 parallel, 1203 okay?

1204 I thought I could carry over what I knew 1205 about other sports to the GOAT method, 1206 where a lot is said about throwing the 1207 club.

Talk about this and why it's 1208 important.

Keeping the width with this or 1209 the throw?

The width is important because 1210 it's free speed.

All right, so I'll answer 1211 both of them.

So the first thing is, we 1212 don't want to use our arms in the swing.

1213 And so as this trail arm stays straight, 1214 All right.

This is going to be what helps 1215 allow us to create a wide swing arc 1216 because more width is free speed.

Think 1217 about the merry-go-round.

You picture a 1218 merry-go-round.

You put a kid on the 1219 inside and you put a kid on the outside.

A 1220 kid on the inside is like, yeah, I'm 1221 having a blast.

But the one on the outside 1222 is like going whee.

1223 So we want to try to keep our trail arm 1224 straight so we can maximize our width 1225 going back.

But it also helps.

as in we 1226 start to make this backswing motion 1227 because we know we kind of have to have 1228 that feeling of almost that scapula 1229 working up and as this trail arm stays 1230 straight it's really easy to get that 1231 motion and that feel of that scapula 1232 moving correctly so as i do that it's very 1233 easy for me to get a full turn and move 1234 into extension with my spine right there 1235 where i start to kind of see my back 1236 shoulder there 1237 I can see why he said the GOAT method is 1238 more of an underneath softball pitch where 1239 the throwing arm is straighter.

But it 1240 does relate to the same thing with 1241 football and baseball and all that, the 1242 throwing action, because you're still 1243 moving the body.

You're still pivoting all 1244 the same way.

Now, when I'm throwing a 1245 football, I don't want my arm and hand way 1246 out here because what's going to happen?

1247 I'm going to get a strip sack.

1248 it's the same thing where if my arm's 1249 right here and i'm throwing a ball what 1250 happens with my arm when i start to pivot 1251 all right what happens with my arm i start 1252 to get a little bit more stretch right 1253 here my body starts to pivot it around 1254 right here there's a lot of diminishing 1255 returns depending on where it is but it's 1256 going with my body right there so as 1257 you're throwing and you're moving this way 1258 i'm able to add this rotational speed to 1259 my arm right here okay 1260 Now the throw is the same thing as if I 1261 were to take, I should have a baller in 1262 here somewhere.

1263 Taking this ball, keeping my trail arm 1264 straight, and I'm letting this wrist start 1265 to set back on itself, getting nice and 1266 high and wide.

And as I start to do that, 1267 this is still a throw.

1268 If you took a baseball, you wouldn't take 1269 a baseball like this and throw it like 1270 that.

1271 I don't think.

1272 What you would do if you wanted to throw 1273 this harder but with connection is you 1274 would have some width up here.

You'd pivot 1275 your body and you'd toss it like that.

So 1276 it is still a throw.

There are different 1277 parameters with the golf club because we 1278 want to take advantage of having that 1279 width and free speed.

But the throwing 1280 pattern is pretty much the same.

1281 The second question to this is when I move 1282 to a full swing, 1283 I'm chronically hitting behind the ball 1284 about an inch.

Okay.

This is a good 1285 question.

1286 The divot pattern is a perfect dollar 1287 bill.

All right.

So we're hitting behind 1288 the ball.

So to clarify what he's saying, 1289 he's hitting behind the ball, but he's got 1290 a perfect divot.

1291 And on the target line, when I do make 1292 crisp contact, it's a perfectly straight 1293 shot.

Okay.

So to me, what it sounds like 1294 is you're flipping.

your trail hand too 1295 soon so it's keeping the face square so 1296 you're not kind of seeing this pattern of 1297 diving left or pushing right but you're 1298 getting this divot pattern where you're 1299 kind of throwing your hand a little bit 1300 too soon but the face is square because if 1301 you think about kind of how the wrist 1302 moves okay if you think about how the 1303 wrist moves right here it kind of hinges 1304 back on itself like this so if i'm doing 1305 this my face really isn't doing a whole 1306 bunch okay it's not really doing a whole 1307 bunch right here so this is what i'm 1308 saying that you're doing is you're 1309 probably doing this manually too soon 1310 which is keeping the face square so you 1311 get that perfect dollar bill but you're 1312 hitting behind it so what are the common 1313 causes fixes for hitting behind the ball 1314 well one pushing with your trail hand too 1315 soon.

So instead of staying in supination 1316 and allowing for proper deviation and 1317 rotation right here, you might be starting 1318 to supinate and then you're pushing at it 1319 with this hand or you're pushing at it 1320 with the shoulder this way.

If you stay in 1321 supination and your hips and core are 1322 pivoting this way, this is going to keep 1323 it extremely shallow.

Like almost every 1324 single time that I do that too much, I'm 1325 bottoming out up here at my lead foot.

So 1326 the first thing that I would check is to 1327 make sure that you're supinating properly 1328 because more than likely you're starting 1329 to supinate or you're not supinating at 1330 all.

And what's happening is you're just 1331 flipping the club.

1332 You're starting to throw this into 1333 pronation too soon or into flexion too 1334 soon.

1335 Also, what can happen is the fact that 1336 you're not moving any weight.

And this 1337 kind of goes back to an earlier question 1338 with lateral motion and weight and what 1339 have you.

1340 if you are just staying back here on your 1341 leg like this and you're pushing on the 1342 club you're going to hit it fat remember 1343 there's still going to be this little bit 1344 of recentering and lateral motion as you 1345 start to shallow and you start to pivot 1346 from this side so if you do hang back and 1347 you try to throw it like this that is 1348 going to bottom out too soon so i would 1349 one check to make sure that you still are 1350 getting to your lead side as you're 1351 starting to drive right here and also make 1352 sure that you're not going into pronation 1353 too soon or into 1354 collection as well with your wrist because 1355 that's why I see players make this mistake 1356 all the time where they look at their 1357 divot and they're like, oh, I'm swinging 1358 perfect.

Look at my divot.

1359 I mean, it gives me some feedback, but it 1360 really doesn't tell me everything.

So you 1361 can kind of cheat that.

1362 Does ball position change with length of 1363 club and goat code?

Well, define length of 1364 club.

1365 So if you think about kind of going 1366 through the whole gambit, as you start 1367 with chipping right here, you're going to 1368 kind of be going off your back toe.

The 1369 same thing with pitching.

So as you're 1370 going from a little chip right here and 1371 you start to move into a little bit of 1372 pitching right here, you're going to kind 1373 of be going off that back toe.

And as you 1374 start to move into wedge play, you're 1375 going to start to be just a little bit 1376 more inside this trail foot.

1377 Now, as you move from wedge play and you 1378 start hitting a little bit normal shots, 1379 I'm just slightly ahead of center right 1380 here, so it still kind of has that look of 1381 where it's kind of off the lead ear right 1382 here.

You want to be careful kind of 1383 getting it a little bit too far up, but 1384 it's going to kind of be just ahead of 1385 center right here.

For all clubs, 1386 your 9-iron, your 7-iron, your 5-iron, 1387 as you go through your bag and your iron 1388 territory, there's no reason to change 1389 that ball position.

Because even though 1390 the club's getting longer, what adjustment 1391 are you going to be making?

1392 You're going to be getting taller, 1393 okay?

Just because you're hitting a seven 1394 iron versus a four iron, you didn't grow 1395 in between shots.

I mean, if you did, 1396 that'd be awesome, but you didn't grow in 1397 between shots.

And so as you get a longer 1398 club.

you're going to start to have a 1399 little bit of less hinge right here, and 1400 you're going to start to get taller.

And 1401 that's going to make up for the fact that 1402 the club's longer.

But this ball position 1403 really doesn't need to vary a lot unless 1404 you're trying to do some specialty shots.

1405 And then as you start to get into the 1406 woods, and more specifically driver, if 1407 you're trying to blast it, 1408 I mean, that ball position, when I get 1409 here, I'm typically going to be just off 1410 this instep right here, just off my lead 1411 foot instep.

Because if you look at this 1412 position, if you look at my ball, 1413 Where is my ball right now?

My ball is 1414 just slightly ahead of me, and it's almost 1415 just slightly ahead of the shoulder right 1416 here, which is going to help promote as I 1417 start to snap this through here, getting 1418 it at a little bit more of a positive 1419 angle attack.

All right.

So you can kind 1420 of play around with your ball position a 1421 little bit, but it doesn't need to vary 1422 between each and every club.

You know, 1423 that's just going to create a.

1424 set up nightmare because you're going to 1425 be on the course and taking two minutes to 1426 try to figure out whether you got a 1427 perfect ball position for your seven iron 1428 or your six iron.

1429 All right.

1430 Oh, it's already eight o 'clock.

1431 Well, I think that's about all the time 1432 that I have.

1433 I see a couple questions on the screen and 1434 you'll see a couple pop-ups right now for 1435 half off my unlimited during This series 1436 right here for the first month and also a 1437 live lesson if you want to take it.

I do 1438 see some questions popping up right here.

1439 If you can, all right, if you can put 1440 those on the community, I promise I will 1441 get to you just as every question tonight.

1442 I'm literally just pulling these off the 1443 community, clicking the print button and 1444 coming out here in front of you guys.

All 1445 right.

And gals.

All right.

1446 So if you put them there, I promise you 1447 I'll get to you.

But like for me, this 1448 screen is like a half a mile away from me.

1449 So it's hard for me.

I don't want to go 1450 back and forth.

And when we're talking to 1451 players about previous webinars, we kind 1452 of get caught up answering questions 1453 instead of the presentation.

So if you 1454 have it, go get in that community.

I 1455 promise I'll get to you.

We've got plenty 1456 of time to do it.

I thought I was going to 1457 be able to get to 10.

That was my goal.

We 1458 will do that in the next session.

And 1459 that's actually a fantastic question.

And 1460 that might actually take like a 15-minute 1461 dissertation, seeing it right now.

So 1462 you're in store for a good one on that 1463 one.

1464 So thank you for stopping by.

1465 Mark, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Dennis, 1466 thank you.

Thank you.

Gerald, thank you.

1467 Thank you, David.

1468 Michael, much appreciated.

Mary, thank you 1469 as well.

1470 I don't want to keep you here too long.

1471 Thanks for stopping by.

If you have any 1472 questions not pertaining to wanting to add 1473 to the webinar, 1474 you know where to find us.

1475 Go under a video.

1476 Go to the community.

1477 Send in a review.

Do a live lesson.

1478 Send a smoke signal.

You can find us.

I 1479 promise you.

We're not going to leave you.

1480 Go on social media.

I promise you we will 1481 answer all these questions.

1482 No man or woman in their golf swing left 1483 behind is going to be my motto in this Q 1484 &A format.

So thank you for attending.

I 1485 hope you enjoyed.

I hope it was as good a 1486 session.

I don't think it was as good as 1487 the first one.

Maybe I'm a little bit more 1488 low energy today.

I don't know.

1489 Thank you for coming by.

And the replays 1490 will go out as soon as it is rendered.

1491 And I hope you enjoy the rest of your 1492 week.

Enjoy some golf.

And I will see you 1493 all next Wednesday.

1494 Thank you, Veronica.

I appreciate that.

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Earl
I am very confused about the weight transfer in that in the Goat Drill, the instructions state that there is no big move to the lead side and that we should try to stay back. Is what you're saying here at the beginning of this video a contradiction?
May 18, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Earl. Most players shift their mass too much to the lead side. The feeling will be you stay back versus dive or push towards the ball excessively. As you move into side bend the pelvis will have to move laterally towards the lead side.
May 19, 2025
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Scott
Craig…what does it mean when you say that “the arms very little” in the swing?
May 17, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Scott. The arms do very little in the swing. They are more like the spokes on a wheel in the golf swing.
May 19, 2025
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Scott
It’s an interesting image, Craig, but I’m not sure. I fully understand the analogy. Could you say a little bit more to help me comprehend what you mean?
May 19, 2025
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
The core is the hub of the wheel and spokes the arms. The core is driving the motion as the arms are just the connection tool to the outside of the wheel. The hands will release/snap provide feedback on the club face. But, you aren't trying to steer the club which swinging arms back and forth. They are being moved by the hub.
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