Q-n-A Webinar 4: May 28

Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, fourth webinar, May 28th 2025

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Good evening, everyone.

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Well, welcome, everybody.

I'll get in front of the camera here in a second now that I got a few yeses.

All right, how we be today?

How we be today?

Welcome to session number four of Q &A webinar.

Thank you for spending your Wednesday night with me, humble RST instructor, Craig Morrow.

For anybody that's ever done a swing review with me ever, as you know, my introduction, RST Craig Morrow here.

How we be today?

How we be today?

Everybody have a good holiday?

Bob, how many Mountain Dews?

Today or just for this session?

Right now, we have two in the holster for today's session.

Total today, it's probably going to be closer to four.

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So welcome, everybody.

Say hello in the chat.

As per usual, I'm going to let people kind of file on in here and get things going.

I hope everybody enjoyed the first three webinars that we had.

I think there was a lot of enlightening ones in the third one.

I think a lot of questions were answered in that one because there was a few light bulb moments.

I had some of my students.

I saw some comments on the community and on the forum that people were like, oh, okay, now I'm starting to see a little bit of the forest of the trees.

So I hope that that session really helped.

Let's see.

Hey, Dennis.

Hey, Ronald Carver.

I'd like to know how to hit a draw and a fade.

We may talk a little bit about that tonight, Larry, but remember, and this is, I'm going to say it again.

If you want yours truly up here answering those questions, put them up there on the community.

I'm running out of questions.

So, you know, we got a few sessions left.

Don't be bashful.

Don't be shy.

Just go to the community, go to live training and say, hey, Craig.

What club should I hit from here?

And I'll answer it right here for you.

I'm going to let everybody still kind of pile in, but I think we're doing well so far.

I think we've got a lot of good topics covered.

We've got some topics tonight, and I think that will be good.

And we shall see.

One thing that I do want to propose to the group tonight.

I think the last session, when I kind of wrapped it up by allowing some questions, one of the big things with these presentations is I want to make sure that I get through what I printed out.

You know, the questions, I want to make sure that I get through with that.

If I kind of get through that section, I did like how the last five, 10 minutes to open it up to questions talking about what we're doing in this session.

OK, I don't want to I don't want to branch out into other avenues, but I think that kind of helped clear up some things that I may not have mentioned or were still a little bit fuzzy.

So I'm going to kind of propose that to the group that maybe tonight we do the same thing that after I get through 10, 12, 15 questions that the last kind of maybe five, 10 minutes, I'll open it up to if anybody needs a little bit more clarification on what we're talking about, kind of as a prize for people that can be here live and nothing against.

are European students or abroad or people that can't make this.

But just for the ones that are here, they may be thinking the same thing that you at home watching the replay are thinking as well.

So thinking about proposing that tonight, see what you'll think.

Let's see.

Hey, Bill, how are we doing tonight?

Malcolm, I'm doing okay with level lies, but having trouble with uphill and downhill lies.

Well, Malcolm, You will get your answer tonight.

That is actually one of the questions on the sheet tonight is uphill, downhill, side hill, why?

So I'm going to tell you how to play those.

I saw that when I was writing my numbers down.

I think it's like number nine or something.

So we will talk about that this evening.

We're also here from Europe at 1 a .

m.

Hey, well, welcome.

I have some students that are like, Craig, you've got to adjust these times.

I can't get there live.

Might throw in one for our European fellows.

Let's see.

That ticker is still increasing just a little bit.

I'm going to give them about 30 more seconds, and then I know you all got things to do.

I got swing reviews to do.

So I will get started, and we will keep it rolling.

Let's sit here and you can watch me work on my takeaway.

I will tell you that other than J release, the takeaway is probably the number one topic I get questions on.

If I were to tally them up, that's probably the second most question that I get is how to make a proper takeaway.

So I'll kind of keep revisiting little tips and tricks as we go through some of these questions with that.

It seems like that's what everybody struggles with is kind of getting things going because it is so important.

I mean, one of the big things with the takeaways, you don't hit the ball with your takeaway, but it can sure fix a lot of things and help you from making a lot of errors in your swing if you get it started right.

Larry, all right.

Hey, Larry, how are we doing tonight?

Tending from the beautiful state of Maine.

Never been up there, Larry.

You never invite me.

Hey, David, how we doing?

That's it.

I'll give you this one thing before I get started on the list.

It's funny because when I do swing reviews or answering questions on the community, students are always saying like, hey, like I'm going on this golf trip this week to some exotic place or what have you.

And I'm like, how come nobody ever asked their golf instructor?

They're always telling me all these places they're going to go play golf and all that.

I never get a call, a text, an email, nothing saying, hey, Craig, you want to be our fourth or something?

I mean, I'm available.

Hey, Paul.

Hey, all right, Larry, I'm going to take you up on that.

So with that being said, let's start off.

As usual, just print them out, got it in numbers, and we'll see how many we get through.

So for May 28th, let's talk about it.

A question I have overall about goat code sequence for the session tomorrow night.

Chuck talks about stretching the fascia and starting the downswing very quickly.

Yes, you want to make sure that we kind of get these muscles stretched so that they kind of snap back and rebound on their own.

That way you don't have to think about so much.

When I do this, though, I feel very tight with my arms and hands.

It's interesting.

When I hit my best shots, it's when I'm laying up on a par five, either with a wood or an iron.

Feels like a free -flowing swing.

When I do try GDP, it seems like I have a lot of tension.

How do you reconcile these two feelings?

Well, a couple thoughts on that.

I would say more often than not, When you're trying to lay up like on a par five and you're making this nice and easygoing relaxed swing, you're basically just swinging the club.

You're not thinking positional.

You're not going through this laundry list of items.

You're basically feeling the club go back and through a la kind of like a J release.

And what I mean is you're feeling, okay, well, I'm just going to make this nice relaxed swing.

I only need to hit this.

you know 160 yards so i'm not going to worry about perfection i just kind of got to get the ball down there a little bit and so to me what it sounds like is you're just making this kind of nice relaxed swing and feeling the club kind of do the work you're feeling it work through it's pronation supination and all these moves instead of pressing to try to make the perfect swing a counterpoint to that is sometimes i see players all the time mess up layup shots because they don't commit enough to it because they get Too lazy with it.

So it's kind of a give and take scenario right there.

What I would be thinking, though, is that you're just feeling the club making a nice, relaxed swing.

And just like with the J, you're just kind of letting your body relax or react to the swinging of the club.

But I would caution because what I see more on my end is that amateurs, when they step up to a layup shot, is they don't commit enough to it.

and they get really lazy with it and they kind of get a little bit too slappy but to kind of round that into the fascia argument chuck's told me many times before that efficiency in the golf swing kind of really doesn't feel fast and i think that's what players are imagining that they need to do to have a lot of speed if i'm making a swing And I'm stretching and coiling.

And so as I'm sitting right here and I'm moving into my trail side and I'm getting a big coil, getting a big stretch so that I can start firing from the top, I don't really feel like I'm doing a whole bunch.

And what I mean by that is the hands, they can move fast, right?

The hands are like the Ferrari of the swing.

They can move really, really fast.

And I think that's what people just equate to as being efficient.

To me, that's not really being efficient, trying to move my hands as fast as possible and trying to time these things.

If you think about the merry-go-round, all right, I'll use this analogy a ton.

If you think about a merry-go-round and I'm in the center of the merry-go-round and it's spinning, what am I doing?

I'm sitting here like this, like, yay, this merry-go -round is awesome.

I'm having a blast.

But the person or the kid on the outside is sitting there going, He's having the time of his life.

Now, to me, that's efficiency.

If I'm moving from my center and I'm stretching the fascia and my arms and hands really aren't doing a whole lot, that doesn't really feel very fast to me.

But that doesn't mean that I'm not moving fast or that the club's not moving fast.

Because think about my hands right now.

My hands are the person on the outside of the merry-go-round that are sitting there going like this.

But the hub.

of the center of the merry-go-round is what's making everything move does it really look like i'm moving really fast right now it doesn't feel like that to me but the efficiency is basically doing kind of as little as possible or making it look like you're doing as little as possible so my argument would be is that sometimes efficiency doesn't feel fast And I think that's what players tend to equate to what they need speed-wise or recruiting faster.

Well, Chuck says this needs to move quickly.

I agree.

This needs to move quickly.

But does it really look like I'm stressing out to make this happen?

To get the outside to move fast, it's about what I'm moving in here, getting this correct.

It's not about trying to make the outside move fast.

If I take care of all this, doing very little, Good stuff happens.

But I think that's what people see in their mind.

I think that's what they equate to, is that they have to move at an extreme rate.

I saw a big thing pop up.

So hopefully that answers your question.

Number two, and I want to read this one, is I want to know how goat code approach works from greenside bunkers, short-sighted soft sand, hard-packed sand.

etc a kind of a master class on bunkers well that one i'm going to leave to the maestro all right because as we've been talking about on the back end you know what's going to happen with kind of goat driver and goat bunker that one i'm going to leave because he's going to make sure that all the nuts and bolts and the angles of what we're trying to do with this are going to equate to it and it's not like it's going to be a completely different ball game than if you're in a bunker and you have you know a hard packed lie and you've got to make sure that the face stays square so you add a little bit more hinge right there and you're making sure that that leading edge can dig there's there's still going to be a lot of the same parameters but those little finer things i don't want to speak for the maestro so i'm going to let him dictate that one to you so don't think that we've forgotten about you but as i mentioned in the first session there's going to be some times where i kind of get a question that we're going to have videos on and i'm going to kind of leave that for those drill videos number three could you talk about the hand and arm positions from the end of the takeaway to the top of the backswing well i think we've covered that one enough but this is why i want to read this question specifically how much elevation and movement away from the center do you feel your trail arm get disconnected Well, for me, I don't feel a whole lot of disconnection with my trail arm.

And that's because I spent years making sure that my body or my core swings my arms back.

So my arm and my trail arm and hand is dead in front of me right now.

And so as I get to the top, I really never feel a big disconnection.

This is about the max I can go in my swing.

And when I get up here towards the top, that's.

I'm fully contracted right now, fully turned.

I don't really have a whole lot left, so I don't really feel a big disconnection, nor do I try to have a big disconnection.

But if you do disconnect at the top, how do you reconnect in the downswing without pushing from the top, which is obviously a death move?

I'm trying to understand the feel of controlling the arms.

without having them taking over and kill the swing.

Hope that makes sense.

I'm reading that note is that as you're starting to make your backswing and you get up here towards the top, that your arms have a tendency to run away.

And so if your arms run away when you get up here, how do you make sure not to fire from your shoulder or not to fire from the hands incorrectly or not to pull or yank down with the arms?

Well, that kind of goes into the patience and waiting game.

If you're going to disconnect, which you kind of can, think about J release video.

Think about a Freddie Couples.

Think about some, you know, John Daly or anything.

There's no way that I'm going to get all the way over to here and my trail arm hasn't disconnected.

Okay.

But what are these players insanely good at doing?

Insanely good at waiting.

If I'm going to take the same motions that we work on in the downswing.

All right.

As I get up here towards the top, what happens?

This side links and arm up here, disconnected way too long.

What am I going to focus on to make sure that I don't wreck my downswing?

I'm just going to wait on it and make the same motion.

If I move my trail scapula down and in, as I start to pivot into side bend and work this way, my arm's going to reconnect right here.

That's all I'm doing is I'm just waiting for this reconnecting.

That's going to be more about patience.

If you want to have this long and lanky kind of swing up here, you're going to have to wait on it.

You can't get here and just step on it.

But if you're focusing when you get to here, moving back down into side bend, that's going to move my arm down here all the time.

Because remember, the problem is you can't really.

swing your arms, okay?

We're not trying to push our arms from the top or use our arms too much from the top, okay?

So if you have the tendency for your arms to run away, first I would focus on the problem.

I would focus on the backswing saying, okay, why are my arms running away and lifting so much?

Am I not coiling correctly?

Am I pushing with my lead arm across the chest?

Am I adding too much flexion from my trail arm too early?

I'd first assess why the arms are running away.

Am I maybe waiting too long to start my sequence down?

One of the easiest things to have a shorter backswing is to do what?

Start down sooner.

At some point in time, you're going to run out.

of real estate to keep going.

If I'm making my backswing right here and I'm getting to my takeaway and I start getting towards the top and I already start moving back this direction, that's going to be an easy way to start shortening up my swing without having to think, oh, just stop my arms.

So I would first say, assess why your arms are running away.

But let's say your arms are running away and you're getting a little bit disconnected.

Well, what's going to happen?

If I take my trail arm in hand and I swing them up here to the top and make a big J release like this, I'm still going to do the same things.

I'm going to focus on the same motion right here.

You can see I'm right back in GDP.

Arms are up here and I'm just going to still focus on the same thing.

Driving my trail side right here, dropping my trail shoulder down, keeping the goat position, the elbow, the grip.

what have you, it's still going to get there.

As long as you're not trying to just do something with your arm.

If I make my pivot correctly right here, I'm going to hit that same spot every single time.

But I counter you with a question.

Why are you running away in the first place?

Number four, when in GDP, how far back should the right wrist be bent.

I know the club should be toe up or slightly closed.

When traveling from nine to three positions, should the hands try to move straight down the line or in a slight arc?

I always tell players, and I think I mentioned this a little bit in the last lesson, is to feel like it's going down the line.

So I'll kind of answer this from backwards.

I always try to tell players to kind of feel that this is going more down the line as you're letting this hinge or unhinge as we're going through the shot right here because players and i see this all the time because this is what you see on youtube there's countless instructors i was taught this at one point in time i'm not going to name any names but so many instructors say swing left all right and i see this daily where a player takes their lead shoulder or their lead hip and they pull them out of the frame this way Because somebody told them to stick a glove under their left elbow, and when they start coming down, swing left hard this way.

And that gets to the side way too overactive, changes the pitch of the shaft, messes up the plane.

That may work for some people because of what they're doing in their swing.

Some players may be a foot under plane, and so that's helping them out a little bit with it.

But I don't want you to ever try.

on a normal stock shot to swing dead left your feeling is going to be that it's going a little bit more or straight down the line think of what we do during this whole goat code process think of what we do first we work on putting and as we're working on putting even though the putter has a little bit of rotation in the face right there what's really going on right here it's only it almost feels like everything's staying square and going right down the line What happens when we go to chipping?

It feels like almost everything's staying dead square and going right down the line.

Same thing with pitching and as we work Part of the purpose of sticking the grip and the elbow and the arm in the position that we do to help us get into GDP is so that you're not always fighting variability in the face.

The face is staying pretty darn square throughout the swing.

So if the face is staying pretty darn square throughout the swing and all of a sudden at the end, okay, I'm going to swing left or try to fire my hands this way or make them work in a certain arc, now you're adding in manipulation.

Now you're actually going away from one of the reasons that we have goat is because we're trying to put some simplicity in this.

We're trying to delete all this extra variation in the face that you don't need that the goats didn't do.

One of the big things that the goats didn't do is that they weren't sitting here maneuvering around this club face all the time, trying to time open to close or keep it closed to open or anything like that.

The vast majority of the really good players, this face stayed relatively square all throughout the swing.

So we don't need to add any crazy adjustments to that.

Now, how far?

Should the trail wrist be bent?

Well, as I'm going through my move right here, and I'll just kind of show you from both views.

So as I'm going from here, up here, down into this position, my trail wrist, I mean, I can move it just a little bit more right there, but not a whole bunch.

But I'm going to be honest with you, during all that, I don't have time to think about how much should my trail wrist be bent.

As I start to supinate right here, and I start to have my throwing motion from the top as I supinate, my trail wrist, it's taking care of itself right here.

I'm not trying to get here and make it max out.

You can.

Think of the throwing a ball analogy for any of those that watch the hands webinar.

If I were to take a ball right here and go back, my trail wrist is going to load automatically.

I don't have to think about that anymore.

Mine isn't like, I'm not stressing out trying to get it max low, but it's loaded.

I'm not stressing out trying to force it into something, but you can, I mean, for me, it's almost fully loaded right here.

I don't have, not really a whole bunch left.

And that's maintaining in to my GDP position.

So think about it like a throw.

It's going to load itself right here.

However it's loaded, like if you're going to throw a ball hard.

That would be kind of how much I would have right here.

You don't need to try to create excessive extension in this risk to try to get more power to have a better GDP position.

Good question, though.

Good question.

Number five.

Can you explain risk cocking, radio null or deviation, that Chuck introduced in the pitching videos?

up to full swing for irons and driver.

Well, in the pitching videos, you have to remember short game is a little bit of a specialty shot, and pitch is definitely a specialty shot.

Might be a wedge in here.

So in a pitch shot, I'm going to have a little bit more radial deviation for my lead wrist, okay, to help this club.

set up the plane or cock up on the plane as my trail wrist starts to work into extension and hinge back i've got to get something to get this club getting a little bit more vertical on the sooner side and so that's going to be adding a little bit more radial deviation now as we start to get to a nine iron or a wedge a nine iron a six iron a normal standard stock shot I don't need that much in the takeaway.

Is there a little bit?

Yeah.

Just kind of enough to support the club.

And that kind of goes back to the same with the hands webinar.

If I have my lead hand grip in the correct position, which is in the fingers, this is why players mess this up.

It's their grip.

It's not because they've been taught something they don't know.

It's 99 ,999 times out of 100.

It's their grip.

if it's in the fingers right here as i start to make my takeaway that little bit of pushing down on the club is going to be what keeps the club in front of me now that's going to go for my nine iron my five iron my driver everything is that little bit to support the weight of the club and keep the club out in front of me Why players tend to ask this question a lot is because we always hear, keep the club out in front of you.

Don't roll it inside, which rolling inside is a death move.

That's one of the big things that I'm a big pet peeve on.

But it's usually because of the grip.

If I get this in my fingers right here, I have a sense of the weight of the club.

I have a sense of the club right now.

I can feel it pushing against my hand right here.

And what people tend to do is they're like, okay, Craig, well, I'm going to get the proper grip in my left hand, and I still got the problem.

All right?

So what's wrong with this?

I'm kind of coming close to the camera right here.

What's wrong with this right here?

My left hand.

You can't see it.

It looks strong enough, but it's not in my fingers.

It's in my palm.

I've got it going right through my lifeline right here, okay?

And so what players tend to do is they tend to have this.

I'll come in close right here.

They tend to have this go through their lifeline, and they make a super strong grip right here.

And then they're like, okay, well, as I start to go back right now, that's immediately what happens is this club wants to go that way.

Super strong grip in the palm.

Club doesn't want to set up.

And so what tends to happen is this goes inside.

Trail wrist starts to hinge excessively, and now they get up here towards the top, and they really start to get to this shut club, and they kind of start looking like a Duvall or Dustin Johnson.

So don't think so much like, okay, well, I've got to have this much for my pitch, this much.

In the pitch, there's a little bit more.

It's a specialty shot.

You've got to get that club working up on point.

For the rest of the clubs, if you get it in the fingers correctly right here, and you focus on letting.

that pressure pushed down on it because that will feel very natural.

You won't have to think about how much wrist set that you need right here, where to create it or how to create it.

Okay, let's see.

Number six.

Working on getting my left wrist to break.

Back of left hand.

folding towards forearm and the release.

It appears to be helping me generate much more speed, correct?

So if you're releasing and unhinging the trail wrist correctly, remember the wrist are gonna always work kind of counter to each other.

So if I'm getting down here and I'm unhinging my trail wrist correctly, well, my lead wrist is going to have to work into extension or cupping.

So I can understand how that's getting you more speed.

Is this a move you make happen or simply a byproduct of having your wrist properly relaxed through impact?

Well, I wouldn't say of having my wrist properly relaxed through impact because my trail hand grip is pretty firm.

Okay.

If I'm focusing on throwing the club, I'm letting my wrist and all that react, but I've still got kind of control over that demon.

But my lead hand is reacting.

All right.

My lead arm and hand and shoulder and all that is just reacting to all the input that my trail side is giving it.

So this motion, I'm not trying to make this cut faster by adding unhinging and adding extension with my lead coming through.

That's happening as a byproduct of me releasing it correctly.

I'm just letting it kind of get out of the way.

it's the same thing for lead side golfers the lead side golfers you don't need your trail side so as i make my swing and i start to work through here i can let go of my trail hand at any point in time because this guy is the one in control my lead side is the one in control i don't need any direction from this well trail side is kind of the same thing i'm letting my trail side dictate what my lead wrist should do through here.

This is where I'm getting all my control and feedback from.

Let's see.

How much knee bend should there be in the trail leg once at the top or close to it?

I saw one video, can't remember which one, where Chuck explained his trail leg being almost straight to avoid pushing off of How to coil video.

Also I've heard various teaching pros teach that the trail leg should remain bent and not go straight.

Good question.

So what Chuck's referring to is a couple different points.

If you try to keep too much flexion in the trail knee as you go back.

So as I start to go back right here, if I try, let's say a squat.

If I really start to load early into this trail side too soon, let's say I'm almost even increasing my knee flexion right here.

I'm going to load this so early and this is going to be so tight that my tendency is just going to be.

to push off of it and i'm going to have i'm going to have the strong urge to want to early extend because i've loaded this leg and this glute so hard that i'm going to have the tendency to really want to push off of it early okay so as you go back you don't want to sit here and get into this position because of that now what's the second reasoning well what happens in the downswing with the trail leg so i move up here towards the top What's going to kind of be my first move as I start to go here?

Well, my trail toe, my trail knee, my trail hip, my trail core, all of this is going to tend to do what?

It's going to tend to drive.

It's going to tend to increase a little bit as I start driving towards the target.

Well, if I'm already here, my tendency is going to be to do what?

immediately push off of it and start going up.

Well, as I start to make the transition, I start to move down, I'm prepping for a powerful post to kind of pull that leverage from the ground.

If I'm already kind of preloaded, pre-squatted too soon, there's only kind of two directions you're going to go in.

If I've already gone down, I'm not going to go down more.

in the downswing that would feel really weird after i'm already loaded what happens when you load a muscle when i load a muscle i'm going to release that tension so if i load this too soon i'm going to just immediately start popping up like i'm you know popping up out of water so in the backswing it's okay to lose trail knee flexion all right it's okay depending on how much you're going to coil how dynamic you're going to make the swing as you move from here and you move laterally into your trail side and you really kind of start to spiral up this chain, well, it's going to be a lot easier for me to get this stretch right here, to get my scapula in the correct position, to really feel wound, to really feel coil, if I can let that trail leg straighten right here a little bit.

Now, you can see, like, I'm not locked out like this, but my trail leg's definitely straightening right here because that's giving me the ability to really feel.

that kind of spring into action right here that i can be dynamic in that transition so i can really get that to whoop and whoop so losing a little bit of trail knee flexion or even almost getting to a straight position that's perfectly fine if you load a muscle that muscle is going to fire all right same thing with the wrist if i make a backswing and i cock my wrist as much as i possibly can down here What are the odds that I'm going to maintain that all the way to the top and all the way down?

I'm not going to maintain that.

At some point in time, my body's going to feel that tension and say, I want to release that tension.

I don't like that.

Same thing with this.

I can only load so much.

As soon as I get here, now I've hurt the transition dynamics.

But now I've also told my brain, oh, this is loaded.

Let's use it.

So the first immediate thing is going to be to go up.

Now, I don't know if you watch this on social media or you watched any rotary video in the last 20 years, but what have we commonly kind of referred to as seeing in the transition?

Is that in the transition, if you watch my head, you watch Chuck's, you watch Tiger's, you watch Rory, you're going to see that as we start to transition, if anything, we lower.

I wouldn't be able to make that dynamic kind of lateral motion.

in lowering motion, getting this core engaged, kind of getting into my crunch right here, if I was already preloaded too much too soon.

So if that trail knee is super bent and I'm already preloading it, I'm probably going to push up out of it too soon.

All right.

So hopefully that answers that question.

And for those of you posting those questions, remember, I'll open it up.

I'll open it up right at the end if you need a cue on what I'm talking about.

Number eight, Chuck mentioned supination almost as an afterthought.

Does supination happen automatically when you crunch the right-hand side of the body on the downswing?

Or do you need to independently supinate to achieve maximum results?

Well, if I don't do anything with my arm and hand, and I think this is kind of what you're meaning with this.

If I get up here towards the top, let's just say I'm at the top of my back swing.

If I don't do anything with my arm and hand and I move into my side bend, did I have to think about making any supination?

And this kind of goes back to earlier what I was saying about using the arm and hand.

If I'm so used to motoring the swing by straightening my arm or pushing something, you're going to struggle with this because you're going to make this motion and you're also going to try to use your arm at the same time.

You may go like this.

You may drive this way.

But if I'm up here and I do nothing with my arm and hand and I move into side bend, I don't have to think about my supinating position.

All right, that's going to automatically happen as I make that.

Now, the caveat to that, there are some players out there that are so used to swinging their arms or pushing the club from the top, they're going to have to think about supinating.

If I've been doing something one way for 30 years, if I've been getting to the top of my backswing and I've gone like this for 30 years and I've swung like this from the top.

Just all of a sudden saying, okay, don't use my arms and go like that in a practice swing may work.

But you've got a movement so ingrained, you're going to probably have to manually for a little bit be like, well, I'm a lifelong over the topper.

So as I sit here and I think about my conveyor belt release, and I think about all these things, the J release, what have you, when I get up here towards the top, I'm probably going to have to really be conscious.

that as I move into my side bend position, that I feel some supination, that I feel my trail elbow get a little bit more externally rotated, my forearm, my wrist, the club, feel a little bit of the weight, work into supination because I'm so used to doing this that as soon as I add pace to it, that's probably going to rear its ugly head.

So I'm going to have to get a real good feel for this clockwise motion coming down.

So if you're a massive, lifelong over-the-topper, you're probably going to have to think about it.

It's probably going to have to be a little bit manual.

But the goal is no, you don't have to think about creating this big supination if you move correctly and you don't motor it from your arm.

If my arm doesn't change from here, if I get up here to the top, my arm doesn't do anything other than, okay, well, I'm going to move into side bend and move into position.

But that's because I'm not moving this.

For players that are so used to overworking it, yeah, in the beginning, they're going to have to feel, okay, well, I've got to make sure to get this clockwise feel until they no longer have to think of it.

And that's why, especially when we were teaching Axiom or doing the Axiom classes, I always had people think for a second, live a little bit how the other half lives for a second.

If you're a lifelong over -the-topper, Just live a little bit where you're starting to hit a couple drop kicks, where you get used to just getting this club to move a little bit of clockwise on the downswing, even if it's just a little bit big.

You've gotten this so ingrained, it's okay to kind of exaggerate it for a little bit.

It's okay to play around and feel like, okay, I'm going to make a little bit more of a clockwise motion because I'm so used to getting steep.

Nothing wrong with that.

Number nine.

When I'm playing back my video swings, what are the most common flaws I should look for?

I think I can tell when I'm overusing my shoulder, but what about the hips, arms, and even hands?

Chuck's bad swings still look pretty to me.

Wait a minute.

So who is this?

All right.

Somebody after my job?

Wait a minute.

I feel like this is a trick question, like I'm getting punked.

Is somebody trying to get after my job in swing reviews?

You want to know all my tips and tricks?

This topic would literally be days.

I'll give you a couple things that I want you to watch out for, but that could be a whole webinar.

Most common flaws should look out for.

Well, especially as you're working through.

your goat swing.

I mean, the first thing I'm going to kind of check is somebody's setup.

I'm going to make sure that the trail arm and hand grip, the elbow position are all correct, aimed at the shoulder socket.

And I'm going to make sure that when they're in position, they got their arm and hand in grip and that when they're hinged forward, their weight isn't too far back, too far forward.

It's pretty balanced from front to back.

And that they're not just kind of excessively rounding and kind of being really lazy with this.

So if we take the setup stuff aside, when I look at somebody's swing, there's a million different things that I can look at.

But the very first thing I'm going to make sure of is the fact that they shift weight and that they don't excessively push their head off for the golf ball.

Because that's just a death sentence.

If you see somebody start their backswing where their hips start to reverse this way, and if you just kind of like draw a line right here, their hips start to reverse this way and their head goes this way.

it's game over so what i would say is if you're kind of looking at it from a face-on view at first make sure that you're moving laterally and rotationally to the top as you work into extension with your spine right here without your head excessively moving off the ball because typically the big killer that i see immediately is that somebody starts to push with their lead shoulder back their hips shift this way they move their spine into flexion It doesn't even matter about looking at the downswing right now.

So that would be one big tell that I would tell people to watch out for, face on.

Backswing-wise, I'll give you one cue down, and I'll give you one from down the line, and then we'll go to that one topic that I know somebody was speaking about earlier.

Downswing from face on, one thing that I commonly see is that when players start to transition, Let's say somebody makes a decent backswing and they get up here towards the top.

Is that when somebody makes their first move from the top is that they start unwinding their shoulders too soon.

Okay.

And so at this position right here, what I'm looking for is trying to make sure that they're moving laterally.

But it looks more like the shoulders are tilting rather than turning.

because motoring the downswing with your shoulders is a death move.

So you want to see that as they're starting to work down into position, that their shoulders don't start beating their hips.

Because if their shoulders start beating their hips, it's never going to play catch up.

From down the line, somebody gets set up.

I always draw a touch line, to be honest with you, because I'll always stick.

kind of like a line right here in their tush because I want to see and I want to make sure that as they're making their backswing, they're not going out towards their toes or their weights moving forward.

And that as they're working down, that they're constantly pivoting the lead hip behind them.

The trail hip's going to leave the tush line.

That's a common misnomer that this trail hip isn't going to stay on this line the whole time.

It can't.

Not the way that the hips work.

But I've got to make sure that their lead hip really starts to clear right here in this position.

And that kind of still goes back to the same thing with the head.

Is that looking kind of, you can see this from face on and down the line, is that when I watch somebody's transition, I don't want to see their head immediately start coming up.

Because I know the same thing as we talked about for if you load the trail leg too soon with the flexion.

So a couple things that you can think about and watch out just in the early going is make sure that you are shifting into your trail side without pushing your head excessively off the golf ball.

That'll really solve a whole lot of problems.

And that if you achieve that mission, and that as you start to come down, you're allowing as you're moving laterally for yourself to crunch right here, which is going to lower your head.

and that your left hip works back and behind you instead of the puppy dog and fire hydrant early extending, that'll really solve a lot of problems.

Probably put me out of business, but I don't know about y 'all, but some of that AI stuff that Chuck was showing the other day and some of the new AI apps, they definitely tell you a whole lot of information.

Let's see.

I'll save that for next time because I did promise somebody.

about whys and I don't want to run out of time.

So I'm going to skip these two questions.

I'll put them back on the next one.

So goat code instruction and QAs are extremely important in my game and have improved.

My fairway, nice lies.

When I hit a bad shot or ball is in a difficult lie, my game falls apart.

So first question is Bunker, leaving that one to Chuck.

So ball above and ball below feet, all right?

So we've got ball above, ball below feet, uphill and downhill lie, and rough, okay?

So ball above, all right?

So if the ball's above my feet, and so.

what what we're talking about right here is if i'm standing right here and i've got a slope right here the ball is above my feet what kind of adjustments am i going to make with the ball being above my feet well the first thing that's going to tend to happen is i'm going to tend to choke up on it a little bit all right because with the ball being above my feet this is going to be a little bit closer so i'm going to tend to choke up a little bit more on the club with the ball above my feet the second thing is is as i get into position If the ball is above my feet, then the slopes behind me like this is gravity is going to be tend to wanting to pull me down the hill.

So I'm really going to work hard on having a stable base.

Okay.

So for me, I still use like the old kind of C4 cues where I really like to kind of squeeze my adductors.

And if you don't know your adductors is the kind of muscles on the inside of your thighs right here.

So instead of being like this.

I like to really feel that I'm squeezing my adductors so I can really feel stable and planted.

Choke up on it right here, okay?

The problem with having the ball above your feet is it's going to tend to make you swing a little bit more into out.

And with swinging a little bit more into out, it's going to do two things.

One, it's going to tend to make the ball want to curve.

Two, it's going to tend to make it want to go higher.

So when I have the ball above my feet, after I get rid of a couple setup parameters, I'm going to adjust for the fact that the ball is going to tend to want to turn more.

So depending on the severity of the slope, I'm going to aim 5, 10, maybe even 15 yards to the right.

And usually I'm going to grab one more club because even though I can kind of swing it and get it hitting hard off a side hill line, if I'm just trying to hit this thing kind of stock because I've already choked up on it.

And because I'm going to be swinging so much from the inside and adding a little bit of height to it, I may add one more club just for the fact that it's going to be launching much more in the air.

And I'm going to try to kind of control it a little bit.

Now let's say that we're on a downhill lie.

All right.

So now I'm on a downhill lie.

My tendency with the ball being below my feet is I'm going to add a little bit more knee bend.

to give me a little bit more stability, and I'm going to tend to hinge forward a little bit more.

That's going to give me that extra length without like trying to have like a big reach out to get to the ball being below my feet right there.

So I'm going to go with the same thing where I'm really going to be kind of squeezing my inner thighs and really just making sure I'm kind of stable right here, adding a little bit more hinge and adding a little bit more knee bend so that I can get out here towards the golf ball.

Now with the ball below the feet, the parameters still apply the same way is that with it being this way, my tendency is going to have a little bit more of a fade bias to it.

So when the ball's below the feet, you really have to put a lot of emphasis on making sure that the club still releases.

Okay.

Because what most people do is they get here and the ball gets below and they start to make this swing and then they start to kind of spin a little bit more through it because they're trying not to kind of fall down the hill.

And they have just a little tendency to kind of hang on to it.

It gives it even more of a fade.

So it's very imperative that when the ball is there that you make sure that you work really hard on letting that club release so that the slope doesn't put so much effect on the ball flight.

So you can kind of straighten out how much it's kind of going to turn.

All right.

What else did we?

Uphill, downhill lie.

Okay.

So if I'm on.

an uphill lie now okay so when i'm on an uphill line and i'm getting into position right here my tendency is going to be that i'm going to move the ball back a little bit because i'm going to tend to catch it a little bit on the sooner side and that when i get into my setup position i'm going to tread carefully on uphill and downhill the old adage is match your shoulders to the slope I don't really like that that much.

I'm kind of hitting a full shot because that to me is a pretty severe, you know, unless you're like this at another side of a hill.

But to me, that's a little bit too severe because when I get on a slope where I'm uphill, my hips are going to kind of make the adjustments for the slope for me.

I don't need to really try to negate that by saying, okay, well, my hips have now made this adjustment.

Now I'm going to get my shoulders kind of, that's going to make me kind of look a little.

Short-sided on this side, especially on an uphill lie.

So my tendency is going to be I'm going to move the ball back just a smidgen right here I'm not going to add a ton more like axis tilt or tilting I'm not going to try to negate by really kind of pushing my shoulder into the slope because I see this all the time where people are set up this way and then they try to match it and then they get this really steep angle of attack on a slope that's like this And then they lay over the side a foot behind it So I'm going to tend to move the ball back, and I'm going to work really hard on making sure that I move my weight to the lead side because gravity is going to be pulling me down the hill.

So I've got to make sure that once I get here and I get into position, kind of standard position right here, that I work really hard on making sure that I get my weight back to the lead side.

Now that kind of ties into the downhill lie.

If I'm on a downhill slope and I set up into position right here, if I were to take my side bend in position and push really hard off this side on a downhill slope, getting it a little bit under plane, I would drop kick it back here.

So when I get on a downhill slope right here, I'm going to really work hard on making sure.

I kind of feel a little bit more lead shoulder staying lower, but feeling just kind of level.

So I'm on a downhill lie, getting my ball position right here.

I'm not going to try to get too crazy with this, trying to get too crazy with the slope.

But as I start to make my downswing right here, if I start to really try to kind of squish the bug off a downhill lie, I'm going to end up too far under playing.

So for me, as i'm on a downhill lie right here i'm going to kind of feel a little bit taller and i'm going to feel a little bit more kind of a level j release so that the club gets down there and it still releases okay and i don't get here and get caught with the club so i'm going to kind of feel just staying a little bit more level through the shot making sure that the club still releases as i come down okay so hopefully a couple of those cues kind of help um on those lies because the tendency especially if you're a big pusher especially on that downhill line tendency is to get way too far underneath plane but i i think you have to be careful when you're working with extremes on slopes the shoulders don't have to be perfectly matching the slope one way or the other.

You can work to try to make just a little bit more kind of levelness so that you feel more of your stock shot.

I think people get just a little bit too much into extremes and either really starts to steepen their swing plane way too much coming down or they push really, really hard because they have a ton of axis tilt right here and then they really push hard and then they get a ton of secondary tilt and their club gets stuck.

So I think trying to make too many adjustments like that kind of hurts you.

And what to do if the ball is in the rough, such as which club to use?

Well, it all kind of depends.

It depends on what you're trying to do with it.

I mean, the problem is that when you get in the rough, depending on the variability and the length and the thickness and quality of the rough, is that the rough grabs the club.

All right?

So the rough can grab the club, and it's, A, going to slow it up.

B, it can twist it.

I mean, just wait and.

You know what, two weeks until Father's Day?

And you wait until the U .

S.

Open and wait until you see that strain of grass that they got at Oakmont.

So it's going to slow it up, and it's going to tend to twist the club on you a little bit.

So it all kind of depends on what you're looking for to get out of it.

You don't want to have a really super, super shallow angle because your club's going to get caught in the rough.

This kind of goes back to earlier where the club is going to have just a little bit, the tendency is going to be to add just a little bit more wrist so you get a little bit more kind of V-stroke on it.

But the club's going to be variable.

If the grass is wet and you can get it shooting out and get it kind of knuckling, then you may only need a nine iron to hit it 180 yards because you might be able to squirt it out of there that way.

So it's variable.

Rough-wise, I think you kind of have to play what the lie gives you.

And I think more often than not, players don't take their medicine enough.

I can't tell you how many countless playing lessons or amateurs I've played with that are 140 yards from the hole, and they're in rough, and they're like, I can get this out.

And they come away with an eight.

Versus if you just would have been like, okay, I'm going to take my sand wedge.

I'm really good at my 80-yard wedge shot because I passed that on the GOAT test.

So I'm going to take my sand wedge, and I'm going to chip at the 80 yards, get up there, maybe save par.

Bogey, at worst, six, but I'm not walking away with an eight.

I hate round killers.

Round killers despise those.

So you have to kind of gauge whether the club's going to be able to get through at your yardage.

It's kind of tough without the situation or knowing what kind of rough you're in.

But hopefully the other stuff kind of helps you out.

So with that said, we're already a little bit.

Low on time, but I did promise you.

All right, I did promise you.

With these last kind of five or 10 minutes, I'll stay on just the tiniest bit longer.

You will see some pop-ups over on the left-hand side of your screen.

If you want some personal attention from yours truly, I'm still offering half off my unlimited group, or you can take a live lesson with me.

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I'm not going to yell at you too much.

Contrary to what my students say, Okay.

Well, maybe they are right on that, but it's for good purpose.

If you want a more kind of personal touch with it.

If you want to stay around for about five, maybe 10 minutes, I'm going to answer some live questions about what we're talking about in this.

Okay.

To make sure everybody gets answered.

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I've had enough of golf.

Truly appreciate you stopping by.

Hope you enjoyed this session.

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All right, so thank you.

I appreciate you spending your time with me.

I'm going to take a couple minutes, answer some questions right here, and I hope everybody has a good rest of their evening.

I hope you have a great end of your May, and I will see you in the next session if you're disappearing from here.

Let's see.

All right, so I'm going to kind of scroll back just a little bit as I'm losing my voice for some reason.

Paul, it seems if you truly embrace the concept of throwing the clubhead, the rest will take care of itself.

Make it simple.

Your body knows how to throw without thinking about it.

Exactly, especially players that have trained kinetic sequence.

But some people really don't know how to throw, so they kind of have to go through a little bit more kind of training to get there.

Michael, have an annoying 20 to 30 pull -draw miss with the irons.

Keep trail foot on ground a split second longer after the downs find.

swinging around my body too much versus a little bit more vertical.

Well, if you're pole drawing, okay, so that's typically going to be that you're getting steep with that club.

So the trail foot may help you out a little bit with it, but more than likely you're taking your chest with release.

So what I would focus on more is that as you're transitioning and you're working down, make sure that this is working down as you're clearing your left hip so you can release it more down the line.

More than likely, you're adding some push from this trail shoulder or even some yank from the lead shoulder, which is kind of steepening it, and you're combining your hands and getting that pull draw.

How can you use your core to bring the club to GDP but keep the shoulders from beating the hips and also not getting stuck with the hips, getting in the way of the trail arm coming down?

How can you use the core to bring the club to GDP?

You're making a crunching motion, but keep the shoulders from beating the hips.

Also not getting stuck with the hips, getting in the way of the trail arm coming down.

Well, if the hips are getting stuck with the trail arm coming down, then I would be already, I'd be beating it and be going behind it.

So you can see how I'm off my push line right here.

As I start to transition right here and I move into side bend, I'm crunching my abs right here.

So as I make that crunch and move into side bend, that's moving my trail arm and hand in front of my hip right here.

So if I'm getting stuck, I'm more than likely popping the clutch right here the wrong way, okay, and standing up and getting my arm pushed behind me and getting deep.

Kevin, thanks for doing these go-pats.

I can't say that in my territory, but I understand what you mean, Kevin, so thank you.

Tom, can you comment on swinging a fairway wood?

What about swinging a fairway wood?

A fairway wood, typically, you're not going to be swinging a whole lot up unless you're trying to launch it for a ton of power or anything.

The fairway wood.

You're going to typically feel staying a little bit more level with it right here because that angle of attack is going to be around, you know, kind of zero or maybe even one or two down right there.

So I think more often than not, players try to lift the fairway wood off the fairway versus letting the loft of the club take care of itself.

So I would really focus hard when you're hitting a fairway wood and you're making your lateral motion and side bend getting down into here that you don't try to lift it.

that you really stay on top of it through the strike, that really feeling like you have that chest down feeling through the release so that you don't start lifting prematurely early out of it and trying to lift it.

Tom, yes, it's very encouraging yelling.

Thanks.

No problem, David.

I appreciate it.

Glenn, thank you.

Charles, thank you.

Thank you.

Jose.

Craig, when should we throw the club?

After the initial crush.

You start throwing the club immediately from the top.

So as you start crunching, you're already starting to throw.

That throwing motion starts from the top.

Brent, loose set feeling at top by trying to keep right arm straight and cup wrist to keep club outside of hand.

Loose set feeling.

If the lead wrist is.

cup to the top and extension and outside of the hands you should have a feeling for that wrist set right there but what i would say is increase your pressure in your trail hand because that's the main guy that you want to feel it no problem christopher robert how do you load the fascia on the backswing and not rush the transition because you really can't feel your fascia You're going to feel loading the glute, a quad.

You're going to feel your normal everyday muscles.

The fascia is going to kind of take care of itself.

And the rushing of the transition, the transition is a position that you move through, not a position you stop and kind of wait and kind of think about like, hey, what am I doing right here?

So still think about it.

If I'm trying to load my muscles and get them to react, all right?

I'm working to do that.

Working typically isn't fast.

All right.

So if I'm thinking about things, but I'm working to really get that stretch, the transition needs to be dynamic.

It needs to kind of happen on its own as I start to move into this position.

So if you're loading the fascia correctly and you're getting that kind of rubber band stretch and your transition's messing up, it's because you're not, you're, Sequence isn't correct coming down.

You're trying to override your fascia and push with something coming down.

Paul, thank you, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Tom, no problem.

Alexander, when I cast, I cast when I try to throw from the top with a J release.

That's because you're casting.

The throwing motion is going to be moving.

into supination if i'm moving into supination as i'm making my throwing motion that's going to make sure that i retain enough for this kind of radial deviation i don't just immediately go into deviation so to you that's going to be a little bit more of a soup problem ronald good session thank you tom i appreciate it lee when you get into gdp does the right elbow need to be on top of the right hip At top of the right pocket or can it be at the side of the hip or how low does the elbow need to be?

Or how low does the elbow need to be?

Ideally GDP is going to be right here right elbow in front of right hip palm facing away right here the side So you see if I go like this what's happening right now?

You can technically, I mean, you can still kind of get away with it if you keep kind of pivoting around because it is a trail side hit.

But if I'm getting behind GDP like this, my arm and hand, I'm going to have to do something to get this back out in front.

And the problem is, is if I'm behind myself right here, more players tend to just go ahead and push their arm out to try to fix that.

Others will tend to keep pivoting, but then they have to kind of hang on to it a little bit.

Because if I keep adding more of this rotation right here, I'm going to have to make sure I don't throw it that little bit too soon.

So goat delivery position is going to be right here, right in front.

All right.

That way there is no save game.

And as I work into impact, I don't have to work hard to square it up.

Larry, maybe you could cover how to hit a draw and fade in the next session.

All right.

If you put that on the community for me, I'll remember it.

All right.

And we'll talk about that, but I've got to talk to the maestro because I know that he's got a couple little twinks on the end that he wants to kind of do.

How to keep the hands and club head in front of the hips.

Don't really understand the question, Patrick.

Mary, great session.

Thank you, Charles.

Actually, Rory does that.

Yeah.

Rory's a little bit off the side, depending on what kind of club that he's hitting.

But what also does Rory do that a lot of people don't do?

Rory has a little bit of tendency to get a little bit deeper.

Rory has a little bit of tendency to be just a little bit more on top right here.

Okay.

But Rory also, as he starts to work in here, his old pattern was almost to kick his hips back to snap his towel.

So it bought him a little bit more time as he was working through this position.

You can work on these, but I'm just saying strictly on GOAT.

If you're here, you're not going to have to play any catch up and you're not going to have to work hard to square the club.

There's going to be little varieties and little variations in every single player, but I'm not putting Rory in the goat category.

I'm not saying he's not a great player.

He's not a goat in my mind yet.

Jose, no problem.

Malcolm, thank you.

Pat, no problem.

I appreciate it.

Richard, my path is five to six.

degrees into out seem to drop the right shoulder too much watch what's going on with your head Richard so if I'm getting into this proper backswing into extension I'm getting my scap drop and I'm working and pivoting right here make sure that you're not hanging back this way because if I'm moving laterally enough as I'm doing that When I do that, I'm not going to tend to drop it too far in a plane.

And also that hip is pivoting of that hip is going to make sure to help kind of zero out that path a little bit too much.

So I'd make sure that your head's not going that way.

And that as you're making that motion, that you're getting enough laterally this way as you're making that with this hip getting out of the way.

Because more than likely what's happening is you're actually staying back this way, which is causing a little bit too in doubt.

All right, I'll take two more.

And I got swing reviews to do.

So if anybody posted during this, which I saw, let's see.

Lee, so does the right elbow need to be on top of the pocket or can it be above the pocket a little bit?

That's what I'm asking.

Well, I mean, there's still going to be some genetic variations here, torso length, leg length, what have you.

So as I'm right here and I'm moving into this position, you can see my elbow is above my pocket right now.

But if my hand's up like this, For me, I can't get to the golf ball there.

I'm also not forcing my arms and hands down low.

When I look at this position, my elbow is just slightly above my pocket forearm.

Hand right here is kind of about this far above my knee right here.

But let's say my torso was right here and my knees are down.

It's going to be a little bit relative.

So I would keep this simple and say, all right, my arm and hand need to be here.

Right.

So my arm and hand, my elbow needs to be away.

My palm needs to be away.

I don't want to be doing anything wonky right here.

Okay.

And so as long as I'm in that position right there, as I'm coming through and I'm moving here, I don't have to play any makeup.

Now, just as we're saying about behind, if I'm right here and now I pivot down, you can see I'm a little bit more off my side right now.

I can still make that work.

That's just not what the goats do.

All right, last one.

Let's see.

Bill, I'll watch the replay and take notes using the snipping tool and capture movements you demo.

Great, Bill.

All right, Jim, that'll be the last one.

I tend to release a little early.

Do you have any suggestions on how to improve release position?

Well, it's going to be why are you releasing early?

All right.

Are you releasing early?

Because as you start to move down, you're just pushing with your arms or you're stalling out your sequence too soon that you're not continuing.

You're not getting your core rotating through enough.

If your release is off and you've gone through the system, which that's why we start with this and putting, chipping and all that.

There's a reason.

There's a method to the madness.

If your release is off, do the same thing that I was talking about a little bit earlier with checking.

First, make sure that your sequence is correct.

First, make sure that you're using your core and coiling through here.

If this isn't working correctly, you're going to make shift with your arms and hands all day long, okay?

So see what's going on in your sequence.

Make sure that's moving correctly first.

And if that is working correctly and what's starting to happen.

then you've got to check to see if you're overworking your arm see if you're pushing with your arm at any point in time even though you're working on correct sequence causing it to release early but my still favorite thing of all time is get the opposite hand off and get it right with that one and then put the other one back on All right, ladies and gentlemen, I appreciate it.

Mark, thanks Mountain Dew, man.

I'm going to have a sip right now.

I got to get back to work.

So I got a long day today.

So thank you again.

I know this one ran a little bit over, but that's because I wanted to get this in.

I think this is helpful.

If you all think this is helpful, then I'll kind of do this.

At the end, just a little bit of recap just to kind of give a little present to the people that can make it.

Like I said, nothing against the people that can't.

Completely understand.

So I think that I kind of like this because I like to converse with everybody a little bit after I do a little presentation and we'll keep it rolling.

So thank you again.

Without further ado, I'm going to sign off.

Get your questions on the board.

Now, for those of you that put it in free member questions and all these, click live training.

Because I want to get to you.

But I'll lose you in the weeds if you post it somewhere else.

I've got way too many things I'm looking at on my screen.

So thank you again.

And we will do this.

I don't know any other language, so we'll do it next week.

No problem, Jim.

Thank you, Patrick.

Tom, as always, no problem.

David, you're welcome.

You're welcome, Greg.

All right.

I am out.

I will see you all next week.

I don't know about that, Bob.