Q-n-A Webinar 4: May 28

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Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, fourth webinar, May 28th 2025


All right.

Good evening, everyone.

Welcome.

Kim, you hear me?

We all good on the audio?

Yes.

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Wow.

Okay.

That's a good sign.

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Well, welcome, everybody.

I'll get in front of the camera here in a second now that I got a few yeses.

All right, how we be today?

How we be today?

Welcome to session number four of Q &A webinar.

Thank you for spending your Wednesday night with me, humble RST instructor, Craig Morrow.

For anybody that's ever done a swing review with me ever, as you know, my introduction, RST Craig Morrow here.

How we be today?

How we be today?

Everybody have a good holiday?

Bob, how many Mountain Dews?

Today or just for this session?

Right now, we have two in the holster for today's session.

Total today, it's probably going to be closer to four.

And remember, unofficial sponsor.

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So welcome, everybody.

Say hello in the chat.

As per usual, I'm going to let people kind of file on in here and get things going.

I hope everybody enjoyed the first three webinars that we had.

I think there was a lot of enlightening ones in the third one.

I think a lot of questions were answered in that one because there was a few light bulb moments.

I had some of my students.

I saw some comments on the community and on the forum that people were like, oh, okay, now I'm starting to see a little bit of the forest of the trees.

So I hope that that session really helped.

Let's see.

Hey, Dennis.

Hey, Ronald Carver.

I'd like to know how to hit a draw and a fade.

We may talk a little bit about that tonight, Larry, but remember, and this is, I'm going to say it again.

If you want yours truly up here answering those questions, put them up there on the community.

I'm running out of questions.

So, you know, we got a few sessions left.

Don't be bashful.

Don't be shy.

Just go to the community, go to live training and say, hey, Craig.

What club should I hit from here?

And I'll answer it right here for you.

I'm going to let everybody still kind of pile in, but I think we're doing well so far.

I think we've got a lot of good topics covered.

We've got some topics tonight, and I think that will be good.

And we shall see.

One thing that I do want to propose to the group tonight.

I think the last session, when I kind of wrapped it up by allowing some questions, one of the big things with these presentations is I want to make sure that I get through what I printed out.

You know, the questions, I want to make sure that I get through with that.

If I kind of get through that section, I did like how the last five, 10 minutes to open it up to questions talking about what we're doing in this session.

OK, I don't want to I don't want to branch out into other avenues, but I think that kind of helped clear up some things that I may not have mentioned or were still a little bit fuzzy.

So I'm going to kind of propose that to the group that maybe tonight we do the same thing that after I get through 10, 12, 15 questions that the last kind of maybe five, 10 minutes, I'll open it up to if anybody needs a little bit more clarification on what we're talking about, kind of as a prize for people that can be here live and nothing against.

are European students or abroad or people that can't make this.

But just for the ones that are here, they may be thinking the same thing that you at home watching the replay are thinking as well.

So thinking about proposing that tonight, see what you'll think.

Let's see.

Hey, Bill, how are we doing tonight?

Malcolm, I'm doing okay with level lies, but having trouble with uphill and downhill lies.

Well, Malcolm, You will get your answer tonight.

That is actually one of the questions on the sheet tonight is uphill, downhill, side hill, why?

So I'm going to tell you how to play those.

I saw that when I was writing my numbers down.

I think it's like number nine or something.

So we will talk about that this evening.

We're also here from Europe at 1 a .

m.

Hey, well, welcome.

I have some students that are like, Craig, you've got to adjust these times.

I can't get there live.

Might throw in one for our European fellows.

Let's see.

That ticker is still increasing just a little bit.

I'm going to give them about 30 more seconds, and then I know you all got things to do.

I got swing reviews to do.

So I will get started, and we will keep it rolling.

Let's sit here and you can watch me work on my takeaway.

I will tell you that other than J release, the takeaway is probably the number one topic I get questions on.

If I were to tally them up, that's probably the second most question that I get is how to make a proper takeaway.

So I'll kind of keep revisiting little tips and tricks as we go through some of these questions with that.

It seems like that's what everybody struggles with is kind of getting things going because it is so important.

I mean, one of the big things with the takeaways, you don't hit the ball with your takeaway, but it can sure fix a lot of things and help you from making a lot of errors in your swing if you get it started right.

Larry, all right.

Hey, Larry, how are we doing tonight?

Tending from the beautiful state of Maine.

Never been up there, Larry.

You never invite me.

Hey, David, how we doing?

That's it.

I'll give you this one thing before I get started on the list.

It's funny because when I do swing reviews or answering questions on the community, students are always saying like, hey, like I'm going on this golf trip this week to some exotic place or what have you.

And I'm like, how come nobody ever asked their golf instructor?

They're always telling me all these places they're going to go play golf and all that.

I never get a call, a text, an email, nothing saying, hey, Craig, you want to be our fourth or something?

I mean, I'm available.

Hey, Paul.

Hey, all right, Larry, I'm going to take you up on that.

So with that being said, let's start off.

As usual, just print them out, got it in numbers, and we'll see how many we get through.

So for May 28th, let's talk about it.

A question I have overall about goat code sequence for the session tomorrow night.

Chuck talks about stretching the fascia and starting the downswing very quickly.

Yes, you want to make sure that we kind of get these muscles stretched so that they kind of snap back and rebound on their own.

That way you don't have to think about so much.

When I do this, though, I feel very tight with my arms and hands.

It's interesting.

When I hit my best shots, it's when I'm laying up on a par five, either with a wood or an iron.

Feels like a free -flowing swing.

When I do try GDP, it seems like I have a lot of tension.

How do you reconcile these two feelings?

Well, a couple thoughts on that.

I would say more often than not, When you're trying to lay up like on a par five and you're making this nice and easygoing relaxed swing, you're basically just swinging the club.

You're not thinking positional.

You're not going through this laundry list of items.

You're basically feeling the club go back and through a la kind of like a J release.

And what I mean is you're feeling, okay, well, I'm just going to make this nice relaxed swing.

I only need to hit this.

you know 160 yards so i'm not going to worry about perfection i just kind of got to get the ball down there a little bit and so to me what it sounds like is you're just making this kind of nice relaxed swing and feeling the club kind of do the work you're feeling it work through it's pronation supination and all these moves instead of pressing to try to make the perfect swing a counterpoint to that is sometimes i see players all the time mess up layup shots because they don't commit enough to it because they get Too lazy with it.

So it's kind of a give and take scenario right there.

What I would be thinking, though, is that you're just feeling the club making a nice, relaxed swing.

And just like with the J, you're just kind of letting your body relax or react to the swinging of the club.

But I would caution because what I see more on my end is that amateurs, when they step up to a layup shot, is they don't commit enough to it.

and they get really lazy with it and they kind of get a little bit too slappy but to kind of round that into the fascia argument chuck's told me many times before that efficiency in the golf swing kind of really doesn't feel fast and i think that's what players are imagining that they need to do to have a lot of speed if i'm making a swing And I'm stretching and coiling.

And so as I'm sitting right here and I'm moving into my trail side and I'm getting a big coil, getting a big stretch so that I can start firing from the top, I don't really feel like I'm doing a whole bunch.

And what I mean by that is the hands, they can move fast, right?

The hands are like the Ferrari of the swing.

They can move really, really fast.

And I think that's what people just equate to as being efficient.

To me, that's not really being efficient, trying to move my hands as fast as possible and trying to time these things.

If you think about the merry-go-round, all right, I'll use this analogy a ton.

If you think about a merry-go-round and I'm in the center of the merry-go-round and it's spinning, what am I doing?

I'm sitting here like this, like, yay, this merry-go -round is awesome.

I'm having a blast.

But the person or the kid on the outside is sitting there going, He's having the time of his life.

Now, to me, that's efficiency.

If I'm moving from my center and I'm stretching the fascia and my arms and hands really aren't doing a whole lot, that doesn't really feel very fast to me.

But that doesn't mean that I'm not moving fast or that the club's not moving fast.

Because think about my hands right now.

My hands are the person on the outside of the merry-go-round that are sitting there going like this.

But the hub.

of the center of the merry-go-round is what's making everything move does it really look like i'm moving really fast right now it doesn't feel like that to me but the efficiency is basically doing kind of as little as possible or making it look like you're doing as little as possible so my argument would be is that sometimes efficiency doesn't feel fast And I think that's what players tend to equate to what they need speed-wise or recruiting faster.

Well, Chuck says this needs to move quickly.

I agree.

This needs to move quickly.

But does it really look like I'm stressing out to make this happen?

To get the outside to move fast, it's about what I'm moving in here, getting this correct.

It's not about trying to make the outside move fast.

If I take care of all this, doing very little, Good stuff happens.

But I think that's what people see in their mind.

I think that's what they equate to, is that they have to move at an extreme rate.

I saw a big thing pop up.

So hopefully that answers your question.

Number two, and I want to read this one, is I want to know how goat code approach works from greenside bunkers, short-sighted soft sand, hard-packed sand.

etc a kind of a master class on bunkers well that one i'm going to leave to the maestro all right because as we've been talking about on the back end you know what's going to happen with kind of goat driver and goat bunker that one i'm going to leave because he's going to make sure that all the nuts and bolts and the angles of what we're trying to do with this are going to equate to it and it's not like it's going to be a completely different ball game than if you're in a bunker and you have you know a hard packed lie and you've got to make sure that the face stays square so you add a little bit more hinge right there and you're making sure that that leading edge can dig there's there's still going to be a lot of the same parameters but those little finer things i don't want to speak for the maestro so i'm going to let him dictate that one to you so don't think that we've forgotten about you but as i mentioned in the first session there's going to be some times where i kind of get a question that we're going to have videos on and i'm going to kind of leave that for those drill videos number three could you talk about the hand and arm positions from the end of the takeaway to the top of the backswing well i think we've covered that one enough but this is why i want to read this question specifically how much elevation and movement away from the center do you feel your trail arm get disconnected Well, for me, I don't feel a whole lot of disconnection with my trail arm.

And that's because I spent years making sure that my body or my core swings my arms back.

So my arm and my trail arm and hand is dead in front of me right now.

And so as I get to the top, I really never feel a big disconnection.

This is about the max I can go in my swing.

And when I get up here towards the top, that's.

I'm fully contracted right now, fully turned.

I don't really have a whole lot left, so I don't really feel a big disconnection, nor do I try to have a big disconnection.

But if you do disconnect at the top, how do you reconnect in the downswing without pushing from the top, which is obviously a death move?

I'm trying to understand the feel of controlling the arms.

without having them taking over and kill the swing.

Hope that makes sense.

I'm reading that note is that as you're starting to make your backswing and you get up here towards the top, that your arms have a tendency to run away.

And so if your arms run away when you get up here, how do you make sure not to fire from your shoulder or not to fire from the hands incorrectly or not to pull or yank down with the arms?

Well, that kind of goes into the patience and waiting game.

If you're going to disconnect, which you kind of can, think about J release video.

Think about a Freddie Couples.

Think about some, you know, John Daly or anything.

There's no way that I'm going to get all the way over to here and my trail arm hasn't disconnected.

Okay.

But what are these players insanely good at doing?

Insanely good at waiting.

If I'm going to take the same motions that we work on in the downswing.

All right.

As I get up here towards the top, what happens?

This side links and arm up here, disconnected way too long.

What am I going to focus on to make sure that I don't wreck my downswing?

I'm just going to wait on it and make the same motion.

If I move my trail scapula down and in, as I start to pivot into side bend and work this way, my arm's going to reconnect right here.

That's all I'm doing is I'm just waiting for this reconnecting.

That's going to be more about patience.

If you want to have this long and lanky kind of swing up here, you're going to have to wait on it.

You can't get here and just step on it.

But if you're focusing when you get to here, moving back down into side bend, that's going to move my arm down here all the time.

Because remember, the problem is you can't really.

swing your arms, okay?

We're not trying to push our arms from the top or use our arms too much from the top, okay?

So if you have the tendency for your arms to run away, first I would focus on the problem.

I would focus on the backswing saying, okay, why are my arms running away and lifting so much?

Am I not coiling correctly?

Am I pushing with my lead arm across the chest?

Am I adding too much flexion from my trail arm too early?

I'd first assess why the arms are running away.

Am I maybe waiting too long to start my sequence down?

One of the easiest things to have a shorter backswing is to do what?

Start down sooner.

At some point in time, you're going to run out.

of real estate to keep going.

If I'm making my backswing right here and I'm getting to my takeaway and I start getting towards the top and I already start moving back this direction, that's going to be an easy way to start shortening up my swing without having to think, oh, just stop my arms.

So I would first say, assess why your arms are running away.

But let's say your arms are running away and you're getting a little bit disconnected.

Well, what's going to happen?

If I take my trail arm in hand and I swing them up here to the top and make a big J release like this, I'm still going to do the same things.

I'm going to focus on the same motion right here.

You can see I'm right back in GDP.

Arms are up here and I'm just going to still focus on the same thing.

Driving my trail side right here, dropping my trail shoulder down, keeping the goat position, the elbow, the grip.

what have you, it's still going to get there.

As long as you're not trying to just do something with your arm.

If I make my pivot correctly right here, I'm going to hit that same spot every single time.

But I counter you with a question.

Why are you running away in the first place?

Number four, when in GDP, how far back should the right wrist be bent.

I know the club should be toe up or slightly closed.

When traveling from nine to three positions, should the hands try to move straight down the line or in a slight arc?

I always tell players, and I think I mentioned this a little bit in the last lesson, is to feel like it's going down the line.

So I'll kind of answer this from backwards.

I always try to tell players to kind of feel that this is going more down the line as you're letting this hinge or unhinge as we're going through the shot right here because players and i see this all the time because this is what you see on youtube there's countless instructors i was taught this at one point in time i'm not going to name any names but so many instructors say swing left all right and i see this daily where a player takes their lead shoulder or their lead hip and they pull them out of the frame this way Because somebody told them to stick a glove under their left elbow, and when they start coming down, swing left hard this way.

And that gets to the side way too overactive, changes the pitch of the shaft, messes up the plane.

That may work for some people because of what they're doing in their swing.

Some players may be a foot under plane, and so that's helping them out a little bit with it.

But I don't want you to ever try.

on a normal stock shot to swing dead left your feeling is going to be that it's going a little bit more or straight down the line think of what we do during this whole goat code process think of what we do first we work on putting and as we're working on putting even though the putter has a little bit of rotation in the face right there what's really going on right here it's only it almost feels like everything's staying square and going right down the line What happens when we go to chipping?

It feels like almost everything's staying dead square and going right down the line.

Same thing with pitching and as we work Part of the purpose of sticking the grip and the elbow and the arm in the position that we do to help us get into GDP is so that you're not always fighting variability in the face.

The face is staying pretty darn square throughout the swing.

So if the face is staying pretty darn square throughout the swing and all of a sudden at the end, okay, I'm going to swing left or try to fire my hands this way or make them work in a certain arc, now you're adding in manipulation.

Now you're actually going away from one of the reasons that we have goat is because we're trying to put some simplicity in this.

We're trying to delete all this extra variation in the face that you don't need that the goats didn't do.

One of the big things that the goats didn't do is that they weren't sitting here maneuvering around this club face all the time, trying to time open to close or keep it closed to open or anything like that.

The vast majority of the really good players, this face stayed relatively square all throughout the swing.

So we don't need to add any crazy adjustments to that.

Now, how far?

Should the trail wrist be bent?

Well, as I'm going through my move right here, and I'll just kind of show you from both views.

So as I'm going from here, up here, down into this position, my trail wrist, I mean, I can move it just a little bit more right there, but not a whole bunch.

But I'm going to be honest with you, during all that, I don't have time to think about how much should my trail wrist be bent.

As I start to supinate right here, and I start to have my throwing motion from the top as I supinate, my trail wrist, it's taking care of itself right here.

I'm not trying to get here and make it max out.

You can.

Think of the throwing a ball analogy for any of those that watch the hands webinar.

If I were to take a ball right here and go back, my trail wrist is going to load automatically.

I don't have to think about that anymore.

Mine isn't like, I'm not stressing out trying to get it max low, but it's loaded.

I'm not stressing out trying to force it into something, but you can, I mean, for me, it's almost fully loaded right here.

I don't have, not really a whole bunch left.

And that's maintaining in to my GDP position.

So think about it like a throw.

It's going to load itself right here.

However it's loaded, like if you're going to throw a ball hard.

That would be kind of how much I would have right here.

You don't need to try to create excessive extension in this risk to try to get more power to have a better GDP position.

Good question, though.

Good question.

Number five.

Can you explain risk cocking, radio null or deviation, that Chuck introduced in the pitching videos?

up to full swing for irons and driver.

Well, in the pitching videos, you have to remember short game is a little bit of a specialty shot, and pitch is definitely a specialty shot.

Might be a wedge in here.

So in a pitch shot, I'm going to have a little bit more radial deviation for my lead wrist, okay, to help this club.

set up the plane or cock up on the plane as my trail wrist starts to work into extension and hinge back i've got to get something to get this club getting a little bit more vertical on the sooner side and so that's going to be adding a little bit more radial deviation now as we start to get to a nine iron or a wedge a nine iron a six iron a normal standard stock shot I don't need that much in the takeaway.

Is there a little bit?

Yeah.

Just kind of enough to support the club.

And that kind of goes back to the same with the hands webinar.

If I have my lead hand grip in the correct position, which is in the fingers, this is why players mess this up.

It's their grip.

It's not because they've been taught something they don't know.

It's 99 ,999 times out of 100.

It's their grip.

if it's in the fingers right here as i start to make my takeaway that little bit of pushing down on the club is going to be what keeps the club in front of me now that's going to go for my nine iron my five iron my driver everything is that little bit to support the weight of the club and keep the club out in front of me Why players tend to ask this question a lot is because we always hear, keep the club out in front of you.

Don't roll it inside, which rolling inside is a death move.

That's one of the big things that I'm a big pet peeve on.

But it's usually because of the grip.

If I get this in my fingers right here, I have a sense of the weight of the club.

I have a sense of the club right now.

I can feel it pushing against my hand right here.

And what people tend to do is they're like, okay, Craig, well, I'm going to get the proper grip in my left hand, and I still got the problem.

All right?

So what's wrong with this?

I'm kind of coming close to the camera right here.

What's wrong with this right here?

My left hand.

You can't see it.

It looks strong enough, but it's not in my fingers.

It's in my palm.

I've got it going right through my lifeline right here, okay?

And so what players tend to do is they tend to have this.

I'll come in close right here.

They tend to have this go through their lifeline, and they make a super strong grip right here.

And then they're like, okay, well, as I start to go back right now, that's immediately what happens is this club wants to go that way.

Super strong grip in the palm.

Club doesn't want to set up.

And so what tends to happen is this goes inside.

Trail wrist starts to hinge excessively, and now they get up here towards the top, and they really start to get to this shut club, and they kind of start looking like a Duvall or Dustin Johnson.

So don't think so much like, okay, well, I've got to have this much for my pitch, this much.

In the pitch, there's a little bit more.

It's a specialty shot.

You've got to get that club working up on point.

For the rest of the clubs, if you get it in the fingers correctly right here, and you focus on letting.

that pressure pushed down on it because that will feel very natural.

You won't have to think about how much wrist set that you need right here, where to create it or how to create it.

Okay, let's see.

Number six.

Working on getting my left wrist to break.

Back of left hand.

folding towards forearm and the release.

It appears to be helping me generate much more speed, correct?

So if you're releasing and unhinging the trail wrist correctly, remember the wrist are gonna always work kind of counter to each other.

So if I'm getting down here and I'm unhinging my trail wrist correctly, well, my lead wrist is going to have to work into extension or cupping.

So I can understand how that's getting you more speed.

Is this a move you make happen or simply a byproduct of having your wrist properly relaxed through impact?

Well, I wouldn't say of having my wrist properly relaxed through impact because my trail hand grip is pretty firm.

Okay.

If I'm focusing on throwing the club, I'm letting my wrist and all that react, but I've still got kind of control over that demon.

But my lead hand is reacting.

All right.

My lead arm and hand and shoulder and all that is just reacting to all the input that my trail side is giving it.

So this motion, I'm not trying to make this cut faster by adding unhinging and adding extension with my lead coming through.

That's happening as a byproduct of me releasing it correctly.

I'm just letting it kind of get out of the way.

it's the same thing for lead side golfers the lead side golfers you don't need your trail side so as i make my swing and i start to work through here i can let go of my trail hand at any point in time because this guy is the one in control my lead side is the one in control i don't need any direction from this well trail side is kind of the same thing i'm letting my trail side dictate what my lead wrist should do through here.

This is where I'm getting all my control and feedback from.

Let's see.

How much knee bend should there be in the trail leg once at the top or close to it?

I saw one video, can't remember which one, where Chuck explained his trail leg being almost straight to avoid pushing off of How to coil video.

Also I've heard various teaching pros teach that the trail leg should remain bent and not go straight.

Good question.

So what Chuck's referring to is a couple different points.

If you try to keep too much flexion in the trail knee as you go back.

So as I start to go back right here, if I try, let's say a squat.

If I really start to load early into this trail side too soon, let's say I'm almost even increasing my knee flexion right here.

I'm going to load this so early and this is going to be so tight that my tendency is just going to be.

to push off of it and i'm going to have i'm going to have the strong urge to want to early extend because i've loaded this leg and this glute so hard that i'm going to have the tendency to really want to push off of it early okay so as you go back you don't want to sit here and get into this position because of that now what's the second reasoning well what happens in the downswing with the trail leg so i move up here towards the top What's going to kind of be my first move as I start to go here?

Well, my trail toe, my trail knee, my trail hip, my trail core, all of this is going to tend to do what?

It's going to tend to drive.

It's going to tend to increase a little bit as I start driving towards the target.

Well, if I'm already here, my tendency is going to be to do what?

immediately push off of it and start going up.

Well, as I start to make the transition, I start to move down, I'm prepping for a powerful post to kind of pull that leverage from the ground.

If I'm already kind of preloaded, pre-squatted too soon, there's only kind of two directions you're going to go in.

If I've already gone down, I'm not going to go down more.

in the downswing that would feel really weird after i'm already loaded what happens when you load a muscle when i load a muscle i'm going to release that tension so if i load this too soon i'm going to just immediately start popping up like i'm you know popping up out of water so in the backswing it's okay to lose trail knee flexion all right it's okay depending on how much you're going to coil how dynamic you're going to make the swing as you move from here and you move laterally into your trail side and you really kind of start to spiral up this chain, well, it's going to be a lot easier for me to get this stretch right here, to get my scapula in the correct position, to really feel wound, to really feel coil, if I can let that trail leg straighten right here a little bit.

Now, you can see, like, I'm not locked out like this, but my trail leg's definitely straightening right here because that's giving me the ability to really feel.

that kind of spring into action right here that i can be dynamic in that transition so i can really get that to whoop and whoop so losing a little bit of trail knee flexion or even almost getting to a straight position that's perfectly fine if you load a muscle that muscle is going to fire all right same thing with the wrist if i make a backswing and i cock my wrist as much as i possibly can down here What are the odds that I'm going to maintain that all the way to the top and all the way down?

I'm not going to maintain that.

At some point in time, my body's going to feel that tension and say, I want to release that tension.

I don't like that.

Same thing with this.

I can only load so much.

As soon as I get here, now I've hurt the transition dynamics.

But now I've also told my brain, oh, this is loaded.

Let's use it.

So the first immediate thing is going to be to go up.

Now, I don't know if you watch this on social media or you watched any rotary video in the last 20 years, but what have we commonly kind of referred to as seeing in the transition?

Is that in the transition, if you watch my head, you watch Chuck's, you watch Tiger's, you watch Rory, you're going to see that as we start to transition, if anything, we lower.

I wouldn't be able to make that dynamic kind of lateral motion.

in lowering motion, getting this core engaged, kind of getting into my crunch right here, if I was already preloaded too much too soon.

So if that trail knee is super bent and I'm already preloading it, I'm probably going to push up out of it too soon.

All right.

So hopefully that answers that question.

And for those of you posting those questions, remember, I'll open it up.

I'll open it up right at the end if you need a cue on what I'm talking about.

Number eight, Chuck mentioned supination almost as an afterthought.

Does supination happen automatically when you crunch the right-hand side of the body on the downswing?

Or do you need to independently supinate to achieve maximum results?

Well, if I don't do anything with my arm and hand, and I think this is kind of what you're meaning with this.

If I get up here towards the top, let's just say I'm at the top of my back swing.

If I don't do anything with my arm and hand and I move into my side bend, did I have to think about making any supination?

And this kind of goes back to earlier what I was saying about using the arm and hand.

If I'm so used to motoring the swing by straightening my arm or pushing something, you're going to struggle with this because you're going to make this motion and you're also going to try to use your arm at the same time.

You may go like this.

You may drive this way.

But if I'm up here and I do nothing with my arm and hand and I move into side bend, I don't have to think about my supinating position.

All right, that's going to automatically happen as I make that.

Now, the caveat to that, there are some players out there that are so used to swinging their arms or pushing the club from the top, they're going to have to think about supinating.

If I've been doing something one way for 30 years, if I've been getting to the top of my backswing and I've gone like this for 30 years and I've swung like this from the top.

Just all of a sudden saying, okay, don't use my arms and go like that in a practice swing may work.

But you've got a movement so ingrained, you're going to probably have to manually for a little bit be like, well, I'm a lifelong over the topper.

So as I sit here and I think about my conveyor belt release, and I think about all these things, the J release, what have you, when I get up here towards the top, I'm probably going to have to really be conscious.

that as I move into my side bend position, that I feel some supination, that I feel my trail elbow get a little bit more externally rotated, my forearm, my wrist, the club, feel a little bit of the weight, work into supination because I'm so used to doing this that as soon as I add pace to it, that's probably going to rear its ugly head.

So I'm going to have to get a real good feel for this clockwise motion coming down.

So if you're a massive, lifelong over-the-topper, you're probably going to have to think about it.

It's probably going to have to be a little bit manual.

But the goal is no, you don't have to think about creating this big supination if you move correctly and you don't motor it from your arm.

If my arm doesn't change from here, if I get up here to the top, my arm doesn't do anything other than, okay, well, I'm going to move into side bend and move into position.

But that's because I'm not moving this.

For players that are so used to overworking it, yeah, in the beginning, they're going to have to feel, okay, well, I've got to make sure to get this clockwise feel until they no longer have to think of it.

And that's why, especially when we were teaching Axiom or doing the Axiom classes, I always had people think for a second, live a little bit how the other half lives for a second.

If you're a lifelong over -the-topper, Just live a little bit where you're starting to hit a couple drop kicks, where you get used to just getting this club to move a little bit of clockwise on the downswing, even if it's just a little bit big.

You've gotten this so ingrained, it's okay to kind of exaggerate it for a little bit.

It's okay to play around and feel like, okay, I'm going to make a little bit more of a clockwise motion because I'm so used to getting steep.

Nothing wrong with that.

Number nine.

When I'm playing back my video swings, what are the most common flaws I should look for?

I think I can tell when I'm overusing my shoulder, but what about the hips, arms, and even hands?

Chuck's bad swings still look pretty to me.

Wait a minute.

So who is this?

All right.

Somebody after my job?

Wait a minute.

I feel like this is a trick question, like I'm getting punked.

Is somebody trying to get after my job in swing reviews?

You want to know all my tips and tricks?

This topic would literally be days.

I'll give you a couple things that I want you to watch out for, but that could be a whole webinar.

Most common flaws should look out for.

Well, especially as you're working through.

your goat swing.

I mean, the first thing I'm going to kind of check is somebody's setup.

I'm going to make sure that the trail arm and hand grip, the elbow position are all correct, aimed at the shoulder socket.

And I'm going to make sure that when they're in position, they got their arm and hand in grip and that when they're hinged forward, their weight isn't too far back, too far forward.

It's pretty balanced from front to back.

And that they're not just kind of excessively rounding and kind of being really lazy with this.

So if we take the setup stuff aside, when I look at somebody's swing, there's a million different things that I can look at.

But the very first thing I'm going to make sure of is the fact that they shift weight and that they don't excessively push their head off for the golf ball.

Because that's just a death sentence.

If you see somebody start their backswing where their hips start to reverse this way, and if you just kind of like draw a line right here, their hips start to reverse this way and their head goes this way.

it's game over so what i would say is 1000 if you're kind of looking at it from a 1001 face-on view at first make sure that 1002 you're moving laterally and rotationally 1003 to the top as you work into extension with 1004 your spine right here without your head 1005 excessively moving off the ball because 1006 typically the big killer that i see 1007 immediately is that somebody starts to 1008 push with their lead shoulder back their 1009 hips shift this way they move their spine 1010 into flexion It doesn't even matter about 1011 looking at the downswing right now.

1012 So that would be one big tell that I would 1013 tell people to watch out for, face on.

1014 Backswing-wise, I'll give you one cue 1015 down, and I'll give you one from down the 1016 line, and then we'll go to that one topic 1017 that I know somebody was speaking about 1018 earlier.

1019 Downswing from face on, one thing that I 1020 commonly see is that when players start to 1021 transition, 1022 Let's say somebody makes a decent 1023 backswing and they get up here towards the 1024 top.

Is that when somebody makes their 1025 first move from the top is that they start 1026 unwinding their shoulders too soon.

1027 Okay.

And so at this position right here, 1028 what I'm looking for is trying to make 1029 sure that they're moving laterally.

1030 But it looks more like the shoulders are 1031 tilting rather than turning.

1032 because motoring the downswing with your 1033 shoulders is a death move.

So you want to 1034 see that as they're starting to work down 1035 into position, that their shoulders don't 1036 start beating their hips.

Because if their 1037 shoulders start beating their hips, it's 1038 never going to play catch up.

From down 1039 the line, 1040 somebody gets set up.

1041 I always draw a touch line, to be honest 1042 with you, because I'll always stick.

kind 1043 of like a line right here in their tush 1044 because I want to see and I want to make 1045 sure that as they're making their 1046 backswing, they're not going out towards 1047 their toes or their weights moving 1048 forward.

1049 And that as they're working down, that 1050 they're constantly pivoting the lead hip 1051 behind them.

The trail hip's going to 1052 leave the tush line.

That's a common 1053 misnomer that this trail hip isn't going 1054 to stay on this line the whole time.

It 1055 can't.

Not the way that the hips work.

But 1056 I've got to make sure that their lead hip 1057 really starts to clear right here in this 1058 position.

1059 And that kind of still goes back to the 1060 same thing with the head.

1061 Is that looking kind of, you can see this 1062 from face on and down the line, is that 1063 when I watch somebody's transition, I 1064 don't want to see their head immediately 1065 start coming up.

1066 Because I know the same thing as we talked 1067 about for if you load the trail leg too 1068 soon with the flexion.

1069 So a couple things that you can think 1070 about and watch out just in the early 1071 going is make sure that you are shifting 1072 into your trail side without pushing your 1073 head excessively off the golf ball.

1074 That'll really solve a whole lot of 1075 problems.

1076 And that if you achieve that mission, and 1077 that as you start to come down, you're 1078 allowing as you're moving laterally for 1079 yourself to crunch right here, which is 1080 going to lower your head.

1081 and that your left hip works back and 1082 behind you instead of the puppy dog and 1083 fire hydrant early extending, that'll 1084 really solve a lot of problems.

1085 Probably put me out of business, but I 1086 don't know about y 'all, but some of that 1087 AI stuff that Chuck was showing the other 1088 day and some of the new AI apps, they 1089 definitely tell you a whole lot of 1090 information.

1091 Let's see.

I'll save that for next time 1092 because I did promise somebody.

about whys 1093 and I don't want to run out of time.

So 1094 I'm going to skip these two questions.

1095 I'll put them back on the next one.

1096 So goat code instruction and QAs are 1097 extremely important in my game and have 1098 improved.

1099 My fairway, nice lies.

1100 When I hit a bad shot or ball is in a 1101 difficult lie, my game falls apart.

So 1102 first question is Bunker, leaving that one 1103 to Chuck.

1104 So ball above and ball below feet, all 1105 right?

So we've got ball above, ball below 1106 feet, 1107 uphill and downhill lie, and rough, 1108 okay?

So ball above, 1109 all right?

So if the ball's above my feet, 1110 and so.

what what we're talking about 1111 right here is if i'm standing right here 1112 and i've got a slope right here the ball 1113 is above my feet what kind of adjustments 1114 am i going to make with the ball being 1115 above my feet well the first thing that's 1116 going to tend to happen is i'm going to 1117 tend to choke up on it a little bit all 1118 right because with the ball being above my 1119 feet this is going to be a little bit 1120 closer so i'm going to tend to choke up a 1121 little bit more on the club with the ball 1122 above my feet the second thing is is as i 1123 get into position 1124 If the ball is above my feet, then the 1125 slopes behind me like this is gravity is 1126 going to be tend to wanting to pull me 1127 down the hill.

So I'm really going to work 1128 hard on having a stable base.

Okay.

So for 1129 me, I still use like the old kind of C4 1130 cues where I really like to kind of 1131 squeeze my adductors.

And if you don't 1132 know your adductors is the kind of muscles 1133 on the inside of your thighs right here.

1134 So instead of being like this.

I like to 1135 really feel that I'm squeezing my 1136 adductors so I can really feel stable and 1137 planted.

1138 Choke up on it right here, 1139 okay?

1140 The problem with having the ball above 1141 your feet is it's going to tend to make 1142 you swing a little bit more into out.

And 1143 with swinging a little bit more into out, 1144 it's going to do two things.

1145 One, it's going to tend to make the ball 1146 want to curve.

1147 Two, it's going to tend to make it want to 1148 go higher.

1149 So when I have the ball above my feet, 1150 after I get rid of a couple setup 1151 parameters, I'm going to adjust for the 1152 fact that the ball is going to tend to 1153 want to turn more.

So depending on the 1154 severity of the slope, I'm going to aim 5, 1155 10, maybe even 15 yards to the right.

And 1156 usually I'm going to grab one more club 1157 because even though I can kind of swing it 1158 and get it hitting hard off a side hill 1159 line, if I'm just trying to hit this thing 1160 kind of stock because I've already choked 1161 up on it.

And because I'm going to be 1162 swinging so much from the inside and 1163 adding a little bit of height to it, I may 1164 add one more club just for the fact that 1165 it's going to be launching much more in 1166 the air.

And I'm going to try to kind of 1167 control it a little bit.

1168 Now let's say that we're on a downhill 1169 lie.

All right.

So now I'm on a downhill 1170 lie.

My tendency with the ball being below 1171 my feet is I'm going to add a little bit 1172 more knee bend.

1173 to give me a little bit more stability, 1174 and I'm going to tend to hinge forward a 1175 little bit more.

That's going to give me 1176 that extra length without like trying to 1177 have like a big reach out to get to the 1178 ball being below my feet right there.

So 1179 I'm going to go with the same thing where 1180 I'm really going to be kind of squeezing 1181 my inner thighs and really just making 1182 sure I'm kind of stable right here, adding 1183 a little bit more hinge and adding a 1184 little bit more knee bend so that I can 1185 get out here towards the golf ball.

1186 Now with the ball below the feet, the 1187 parameters still apply the same way is 1188 that with it being this way, my tendency 1189 is going to have a little bit more of a 1190 fade bias to it.

So when the ball's below 1191 the feet, you really have to put a lot of 1192 emphasis on making sure that the club 1193 still releases.

1194 Okay.

Because what most people do is they 1195 get here and the ball gets below and they 1196 start to make this swing and then they 1197 start to kind of spin a little bit more 1198 through it because they're trying not to 1199 kind of fall down the hill.

And they have 1200 just a little tendency to kind of hang on 1201 to it.

It gives it even more of a fade.

So 1202 it's very imperative that when the ball is 1203 there that you make sure that you work 1204 really hard on letting that club release 1205 so that the slope doesn't put so much 1206 effect on the ball flight.

So you can kind 1207 of straighten out how much it's kind of 1208 going to turn.

All right.

1209 What else did we?

Uphill, downhill lie.

1210 Okay.

So if I'm on.

an uphill lie now okay 1211 so when i'm on an uphill line and i'm 1212 getting into position right here my 1213 tendency is going to be that i'm going to 1214 move the ball back a little bit because 1215 i'm going to tend to catch it a little bit 1216 on the sooner side and that when i get 1217 into my setup position i'm going to tread 1218 carefully on uphill and downhill the old 1219 adage is match your shoulders to the slope 1220 I don't really like that that much.

I'm 1221 kind of hitting a full shot because that 1222 to me is a pretty severe, you know, unless 1223 you're like this at another side of a 1224 hill.

But to me, that's a little bit too 1225 severe because when I get on a slope where 1226 I'm uphill, 1227 my hips are going to kind of make the 1228 adjustments for the slope for me.

I don't 1229 need to really try to negate that by 1230 saying, okay, well, my hips have now made 1231 this adjustment.

Now I'm going to get my 1232 shoulders kind of, that's going to make me 1233 kind of look a little.

Short-sided on 1234 this side, especially on an uphill lie.

So 1235 my tendency is going to be I'm going to 1236 move the ball back just a smidgen right 1237 here I'm not going to add a ton more like 1238 axis tilt or tilting I'm not going to try 1239 to negate by really kind of pushing my 1240 shoulder into the slope because I see this 1241 all the time where people are set up this 1242 way and then they try to match it and then 1243 they get this really steep angle of attack 1244 on a slope that's like this And then they 1245 lay over the side a foot behind it 1246 So I'm going to tend to move the ball 1247 back, and I'm going to work really hard on 1248 making sure that I move my weight to the 1249 lead side because gravity is going to be 1250 pulling me down the hill.

So I've got to 1251 make sure that once I get here and I get 1252 into position, kind of standard position 1253 right here, that I work really hard on 1254 making sure that I get my weight back to 1255 the lead side.

1256 Now that kind of ties into the downhill 1257 lie.

1258 If I'm on a downhill slope and I set up 1259 into position right here, if I were to 1260 take my side bend in position and push 1261 really hard off this side on a downhill 1262 slope, getting it a little bit under 1263 plane, I would drop kick it back here.

1264 So when I get on a downhill slope right 1265 here, I'm going to really work hard on 1266 making sure.

1267 I kind of feel a little bit more lead 1268 shoulder staying lower, but feeling just 1269 kind of level.

1270 So I'm on a downhill lie, getting my ball 1271 position right here.

1272 I'm not going to try to get too crazy with 1273 this, trying to get too crazy with the 1274 slope.

But as I start to make my downswing 1275 right here, if I start to really try to 1276 kind of squish the bug off a downhill lie, 1277 I'm going to end up too far under playing.

1278 So for me, as i'm on a downhill lie right 1279 here i'm going to kind of feel a little 1280 bit taller and i'm going to feel a little 1281 bit more kind of a level j release so that 1282 the club gets down there and it still 1283 releases okay and i don't get here and get 1284 caught with the club so i'm going to kind 1285 of feel just staying a little bit more 1286 level through the shot making sure that 1287 the club still releases as i come down 1288 okay so hopefully a couple of those cues 1289 kind of help 1290 um on those lies because the tendency 1291 especially if you're a big pusher 1292 especially on that downhill line tendency 1293 is to get way too far underneath plane but 1294 i i think you have to be careful when 1295 you're working with extremes on slopes 1296 the shoulders don't have to be perfectly 1297 matching the slope one way or the other.

1298 You can work to try to make just a little 1299 bit more kind of levelness so that you 1300 feel more of your stock shot.

I think 1301 people get just a little bit too much into 1302 extremes and either really starts to 1303 steepen their swing plane way too much 1304 coming down or they push really, really 1305 hard because they have a ton of axis tilt 1306 right here and then they really push hard 1307 and then they get a ton of secondary tilt 1308 and their club gets stuck.

So I think 1309 trying to make too many adjustments like 1310 that kind of hurts you.

1311 And what to do if the ball is in the 1312 rough, such as which club to use?

Well, it 1313 all kind of depends.

1314 It depends on what you're trying to do 1315 with it.

I mean, the problem is that when 1316 you get in the rough, depending on the 1317 variability and the length and the 1318 thickness and quality of the rough, is 1319 that the rough grabs the club.

All right?

1320 So the rough can grab the club, and it's, 1321 A, going to slow it up.

1322 B, it can twist it.

I mean, just wait 1323 and.

You know what, two weeks until 1324 Father's Day?

1325 And you wait until the U .

S.

Open and wait 1326 until you see that strain of grass that 1327 they got at Oakmont.

1328 So it's going to slow it up, and it's 1329 going to tend to twist the club on you a 1330 little bit.

So it all kind of depends on 1331 what you're looking for to get out of it.

1332 You don't want to have a really super, 1333 super shallow angle because your club's 1334 going to get caught in the rough.

This 1335 kind of goes back to earlier where the 1336 club is going to have just a little bit, 1337 the tendency is going to be to add just a 1338 little bit more wrist so you get a little 1339 bit more kind of V-stroke on it.

1340 But the club's going to be variable.

1341 If the grass is wet and you can get it 1342 shooting out and get it kind of knuckling, 1343 then you may only need a nine iron to hit 1344 it 180 yards because you might be able to 1345 squirt it out of there that way.

1346 So it's variable.

1347 Rough-wise, I think you kind of have to 1348 play what the lie gives you.

And I think 1349 more often than not, players don't take 1350 their medicine enough.

1351 I can't tell you how many countless 1352 playing lessons or amateurs I've played 1353 with that are 140 yards from the hole, and 1354 they're in rough, and they're like, I can 1355 get this out.

And they come away with an 1356 eight.

1357 Versus if you just would have been like, 1358 okay, I'm going to take my sand wedge.

1359 I'm really good at my 80-yard wedge shot 1360 because I passed that on the GOAT test.

So 1361 I'm going to take my sand wedge, and I'm 1362 going to chip at the 80 yards, get up 1363 there, maybe save par.

1364 Bogey, at worst, six, but I'm not walking 1365 away with an eight.

I hate round killers.

1366 Round killers despise those.

1367 So you have to kind of gauge whether the 1368 club's going to be able to get through at 1369 your yardage.

It's kind of tough without 1370 the situation or knowing what kind of 1371 rough you're in.

But hopefully the other 1372 stuff kind of helps you out.

1373 So with that said, we're already a little 1374 bit.

Low on time, but I did promise you.

1375 All right, I did promise you.

1376 With these last kind of five or 10 1377 minutes, I'll stay on just the tiniest bit 1378 longer.

1379 You will see some pop-ups over on the 1380 left-hand side of your screen.

If you 1381 want some personal attention from yours 1382 truly, I'm still offering half off my 1383 unlimited group, or you can take a live 1384 lesson with me.

And don't be bashful.

I'm 1385 not going to yell at you too much.

1386 Contrary to what my students say, 1387 Okay.

Well, maybe they are right on that, 1388 but it's for good purpose.

1389 If you want a more kind of personal touch 1390 with it.

1391 If you want to stay around for about five, 1392 maybe 10 minutes, I'm going to answer some 1393 live questions about what we're talking 1394 about in this.

Okay.

1395 To make sure everybody gets answered.

If 1396 not, you're like, I've had enough of Craig 1397 today.

I've had enough of golf.

Truly 1398 appreciate you stopping by.

Hope you 1399 enjoyed this session.

I know this one kind 1400 of didn't, might not have had the flare of 1401 the last one with the J release and squish 1402 the bug or the 103 fever that I was 1403 running during it.

1404 But I hope you enjoyed this session.

1405 Please go to the community.

If I haven't 1406 answered anything, as players will note, 1407 I'm going through this list.

You can 1408 literally look on the screen and see where 1409 I'm at on my questions.

1410 So you'll know whether your question is 1411 popping up.

on the sooner side or lighter 1412 side.

1413 All right, so thank you.

I appreciate you 1414 spending your time with me.

I'm going to 1415 take a couple minutes, answer some 1416 questions right here, and I hope everybody 1417 has a good rest of their evening.

I hope 1418 you have a great end of your May, and I 1419 will see you in the next session if you're 1420 disappearing from here.

1421 Let's see.

All right, so I'm going to kind 1422 of scroll back just a little bit as I'm 1423 losing my voice for some reason.

1424 Paul, it seems if you truly embrace the 1425 concept of throwing the clubhead, the rest 1426 will take care of itself.

Make it simple.

1427 Your body knows how to throw without 1428 thinking about it.

Exactly, especially 1429 players that have trained kinetic 1430 sequence.

But some people really don't 1431 know how to throw, so they kind of have to 1432 go through a little bit more kind of 1433 training to get there.

1434 Michael, have an annoying 20 to 30 pull 1435 -draw miss with the irons.

1436 Keep trail foot on ground a split second 1437 longer after the downs find.

swinging 1438 around my body too much versus a little 1439 bit more vertical.

Well, if you're pole 1440 drawing, 1441 okay, so that's typically going to be that 1442 you're getting steep with that club.

So 1443 the trail foot may help you out a little 1444 bit with it, but more than likely you're 1445 taking your chest with release.

1446 So what I would focus on more is that as 1447 you're transitioning and you're working 1448 down, make sure that this is working down 1449 as you're clearing your left hip so you 1450 can release it more down the line.

More 1451 than likely, you're adding some push from 1452 this trail shoulder or even some yank from 1453 the lead shoulder, which is kind of 1454 steepening it, and you're combining your 1455 hands and getting that pull draw.

1456 How can you use your core to bring the 1457 club to GDP but keep the shoulders from 1458 beating the hips and also not getting 1459 stuck with the hips, getting in the way of 1460 the trail arm coming down?

How can you use 1461 the core to bring the club to GDP?

1462 You're making a crunching motion, but keep 1463 the shoulders from beating the hips.

Also 1464 not getting stuck with the hips, getting 1465 in the way of the trail arm coming down.

1466 Well, if the hips are getting stuck with 1467 the trail arm coming down, then I would be 1468 already, I'd be beating it and be going 1469 behind it.

So you can see how I'm off my 1470 push line right here.

As I start to 1471 transition right here and I move into side 1472 bend, I'm crunching my abs right here.

So 1473 as I make that crunch and move into side 1474 bend, that's moving my trail arm and hand 1475 in front of my hip right here.

So if I'm 1476 getting stuck, I'm more than likely 1477 popping the clutch right here the wrong 1478 way, okay, and standing up and getting my 1479 arm pushed behind me and getting deep.

1480 Kevin, thanks for doing these go-pats.

I 1481 can't say that in my territory, but I 1482 understand what you mean, Kevin, so thank 1483 you.

1484 Tom, can you comment on swinging a fairway 1485 wood?

1486 What about swinging a fairway wood?

1487 A fairway wood, typically, you're not 1488 going to be swinging a whole lot up unless 1489 you're trying to launch it for a ton of 1490 power or anything.

The fairway wood.

1491 You're going to typically feel staying a 1492 little bit more level with it right here 1493 because that angle of attack is going to 1494 be around, you know, kind of zero or maybe 1495 even one or two down right there.

So I 1496 think more often than not, players try to 1497 lift the fairway wood off the fairway 1498 versus letting the loft of the club take 1499 care of itself.

So I would really focus 1500 hard when you're hitting a fairway wood 1501 and you're making your lateral motion and 1502 side bend getting down into here that you 1503 don't try to lift it.

that you really stay 1504 on top of it through the strike, that 1505 really feeling like you have that chest 1506 down feeling through the release so that 1507 you don't start lifting prematurely early 1508 out of it and trying to lift it.

1509 Tom, yes, it's very encouraging yelling.

1510 Thanks.

1511 No problem, David.

I appreciate it.

Glenn, 1512 thank you.

1513 Charles, thank you.

Thank you.

1514 Jose.

1515 Craig, when should we throw the club?

1516 After the initial crush.

You start 1517 throwing the club immediately from the 1518 top.

1519 So as you start crunching, you're already 1520 starting to throw.

That throwing motion 1521 starts from the top.

1522 Brent, loose set feeling at top by trying 1523 to keep right arm straight and cup wrist 1524 to keep club outside of hand.

1525 Loose set feeling.

1526 If the lead wrist is.

cup to the top and 1527 extension and outside of the hands you 1528 should have a feeling for that wrist set 1529 right there but what i would say is 1530 increase your pressure in your trail hand 1531 because that's the main guy that you want 1532 to feel it no problem christopher robert 1533 how do you load the fascia on the 1534 backswing and not rush the transition 1535 because you really can't feel your fascia 1536 You're going to feel loading the glute, a 1537 quad.

1538 You're going to feel your normal everyday 1539 muscles.

The fascia is going to kind of 1540 take care of itself.

And the rushing of 1541 the transition, the transition is a 1542 position that you move through, not a 1543 position you stop and kind of wait and 1544 kind of think about like, hey, what am I 1545 doing right here?

So still think about it.

1546 If I'm trying to load my muscles and get 1547 them to react, 1548 all right?

I'm working to do that.

1549 Working typically isn't fast.

1550 All right.

So if I'm thinking about 1551 things, but I'm working to really get that 1552 stretch, the transition needs to be 1553 dynamic.

It needs to kind of happen on its 1554 own as I start to move into this position.

1555 So if you're loading the fascia correctly 1556 and you're getting that kind of rubber 1557 band stretch and your transition's messing 1558 up, it's because you're not, you're, 1559 Sequence isn't correct coming down.

You're 1560 trying to override your fascia and push 1561 with something coming down.

1562 Paul, thank you, thank you.

I appreciate 1563 it.

Tom, no problem.

Alexander, when I 1564 cast, I cast when I try to throw from the 1565 top with a J release.

That's because 1566 you're casting.

The throwing motion is 1567 going to be moving.

into supination if i'm 1568 moving into supination as i'm making my 1569 throwing motion that's going to make sure 1570 that i retain enough for this kind of 1571 radial deviation i don't just immediately 1572 go into deviation so to you that's going 1573 to be a little bit more of a soup problem 1574 ronald good session thank you tom i 1575 appreciate it lee when you get into gdp 1576 does the right elbow need to be on top of 1577 the right hip 1578 At top of the right pocket or can it be at 1579 the side of the hip or how low does the 1580 elbow need to be?

1581 Or how low does the elbow need to be?

1582 Ideally GDP is going to be right here 1583 right elbow in front of right hip palm 1584 facing away right here the side So you see 1585 if I go like this what's happening right 1586 now?

1587 You can technically, I mean, you can still 1588 kind of get away with it if you keep kind 1589 of pivoting around because it is a trail 1590 side hit.

But if I'm getting behind GDP 1591 like this, my arm and hand, I'm going to 1592 have to do something to get this back out 1593 in front.

And the problem is, is if I'm 1594 behind myself right here, more players 1595 tend to just go ahead and push their arm 1596 out to try to fix that.

Others will tend 1597 to keep pivoting, but then they have to 1598 kind of hang on to it a little bit.

1599 Because if I keep adding more of this 1600 rotation right here, I'm going to have to 1601 make sure I don't throw it that little bit 1602 too soon.

So goat delivery position is 1603 going to be right here, right in front.

1604 All right.

That way there is no save game.

1605 And as I work into impact, I don't have to 1606 work hard to square it up.

1607 Larry, maybe you could cover how to hit a 1608 draw and fade in the next session.

All 1609 right.

If you put that on the community 1610 for me, I'll remember it.

1611 All right.

And we'll talk about that, but 1612 I've got to talk to the maestro because I 1613 know that he's got a couple little twinks 1614 on the end that he wants to kind of do.

1615 How to keep the hands and club head in 1616 front of the hips.

1617 Don't really understand the question, 1618 Patrick.

1619 Mary, great session.

Thank you, Charles.

1620 Actually, Rory does that.

Yeah.

1621 Rory's a little bit off the side, 1622 depending on what kind of club that he's 1623 hitting.

But what also does Rory do that a 1624 lot of people don't do?

Rory has a little 1625 bit of tendency to get a little bit 1626 deeper.

1627 Rory has a little bit of tendency to be 1628 just a little bit more on top right here.

1629 Okay.

1630 But Rory also, as he starts to work in 1631 here, his old pattern was almost to kick 1632 his hips back to snap his towel.

So it 1633 bought him a little bit more time as he 1634 was working through this position.

You can 1635 work on these, but I'm just saying 1636 strictly on GOAT.

If you're here, you're 1637 not going to have to play any catch up and 1638 you're not going to have to work hard to 1639 square the club.

There's going to be 1640 little varieties and little variations in 1641 every single player, but I'm not putting 1642 Rory in the goat category.

1643 I'm not saying he's not a great player.

1644 He's not a goat in my mind yet.

1645 Jose, no problem.

Malcolm, thank you.

Pat, 1646 no problem.

I appreciate it.

Richard, my 1647 path is five to six.

1648 degrees into out seem to drop the right 1649 shoulder too much watch what's going on 1650 with your head Richard so if I'm getting 1651 into this proper backswing into extension 1652 I'm getting my scap drop and I'm working 1653 and pivoting right here make sure that 1654 you're not hanging back this way because 1655 if I'm moving laterally enough as I'm 1656 doing that When I do that, I'm not going 1657 to tend to drop it too far in a plane.

And 1658 also that hip is pivoting of that hip is 1659 going to make sure to help kind of zero 1660 out that path a little bit too much.

So 1661 I'd make sure that your head's not going 1662 that way.

And that as you're making that 1663 motion, that you're getting enough 1664 laterally this way as you're making that 1665 with this hip getting out of the way.

1666 Because more than likely what's happening 1667 is you're actually staying back this way, 1668 which is causing a little bit too in 1669 doubt.

All right, I'll take two more.

1670 And I got swing reviews to do.

So if 1671 anybody posted during this, which I saw, 1672 let's see.

1673 Lee, 1674 so does the right elbow need to be on top 1675 of the pocket or can it be above the 1676 pocket a little bit?

That's what I'm 1677 asking.

Well, I mean, there's still going 1678 to be some genetic variations here, torso 1679 length, leg length, what have you.

So as 1680 I'm right here and I'm moving into this 1681 position, you can see my elbow is above my 1682 pocket right now.

But if my hand's up like 1683 this, 1684 For me, I can't get to the golf ball 1685 there.

1686 I'm also not forcing my arms and hands 1687 down low.

1688 When I look at this position, my elbow is 1689 just slightly above my pocket forearm.

1690 Hand right here is kind of about this far 1691 above my knee right here.

But let's say my 1692 torso was right here and my knees are 1693 down.

It's going to be a little bit 1694 relative.

So I would keep this simple and 1695 say, all right, 1696 my arm and hand need to be here.

1697 Right.

So my arm and hand, my elbow needs 1698 to be away.

My palm needs to be away.

I 1699 don't want to be doing anything wonky 1700 right here.

Okay.

1701 And so as long as I'm in that position 1702 right there, as I'm coming through and I'm 1703 moving here, I don't have to play any 1704 makeup.

1705 Now, just as we're saying about behind, if 1706 I'm right here and now I pivot down, you 1707 can see I'm a little bit more off my side 1708 right now.

I can still make that work.

1709 That's just not what the goats do.

1710 All right, last one.

1711 Let's see.

1712 Bill, I'll watch the replay and take notes 1713 using the snipping tool and capture 1714 movements you demo.

Great, Bill.

1715 All right, Jim, that'll be the last one.

1716 I tend to release a little early.

1717 Do you have any suggestions on how to 1718 improve release position?

1719 Well, it's going to be why are you 1720 releasing early?

1721 All right.

Are you releasing early?

1722 Because as you start to move down, you're 1723 just pushing with your arms or you're 1724 stalling out your sequence too soon that 1725 you're not continuing.

You're not getting 1726 your core rotating through enough.

1727 If your release is off and you've gone 1728 through the system, which that's why we 1729 start with this and putting, chipping and 1730 all that.

There's a reason.

There's a 1731 method to the madness.

1732 If your release is off, do the same thing 1733 that I was talking about a little bit 1734 earlier with checking.

1735 First, make sure that your sequence is 1736 correct.

First, make sure that you're 1737 using your core and coiling through here.

1738 If this isn't working correctly, you're 1739 going to make shift with your arms and 1740 hands all day long, okay?

So see what's 1741 going on in your sequence.

Make sure 1742 that's moving correctly first.

And if that 1743 is working correctly and what's starting 1744 to happen.

then you've got to check to 1745 see if you're overworking your arm see if 1746 you're pushing with your arm at any point 1747 in time even though you're working on 1748 correct sequence causing it to release 1749 early but my still favorite thing of all 1750 time is get the opposite hand off and get 1751 it right with that one and then put the 1752 other one back on 1753 All right, ladies and gentlemen, I 1754 appreciate it.

Mark, thanks Mountain Dew, 1755 man.

I'm going to have a sip right now.

I 1756 got to get back to work.

So I got a long 1757 day today.

1758 So thank you again.

I know this one ran a 1759 little bit over, but that's because I 1760 wanted to get this in.

I think this is 1761 helpful.

If you all think this is helpful, 1762 then I'll kind of do this.

At the end, 1763 just a little bit of recap just to kind of 1764 give a little present to the people that 1765 can make it.

Like I said, nothing against 1766 the people that can't.

Completely 1767 understand.

1768 So I think that I kind of like this 1769 because I like to converse with everybody 1770 a little bit after I do a little 1771 presentation and we'll keep it rolling.

So 1772 thank you again.

Without further ado, I'm 1773 going to sign off.

Get your questions on 1774 the board.

Now, for those of you that put 1775 it in free member questions and all these, 1776 click live training.

1777 Because I want to get to you.

But I'll 1778 lose you in the weeds if you post it 1779 somewhere else.

I've got way too many 1780 things I'm looking at on my screen.

So 1781 thank you again.

And we will do this.

1782 I don't know any other language, so we'll 1783 do it next week.

No problem, Jim.

Thank 1784 you, Patrick.

1785 Tom, as always, no problem.

David, you're 1786 welcome.

1787 You're welcome, Greg.

1788 All right.

I am out.

I will see you all 1789 next week.

1790 I don't know about that, Bob.

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