Q-n-A Webinar 5: June 4

Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, fifth webinar, June 4th 2025

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All right, how's the audio now?

Is it coming through?

It didn't look like it was on my end.

All right, perfect.

Thanks, Mark.

This system's a little bit finicky when it comes to the audio.

So that's why I always got to check because I was sitting here looking at the screen and nothing was popping up except me talking to myself.

So hello, everyone.

Hello, Doc.

Steve, Dennis, welcome again to, what is this, session five, I think, of Q &A, month of June, Wednesday at 7 p .

m.

Eastern, still your same host, humble RST instructor, Craig Morrow here.

I hope everybody's doing well this evening.

Hello, David.

All right, Michael.

Great.

I'm glad that I'm actually here right now because other than it being a long day, if anybody's ever lived in Atlanta, I had a human lesson and human lessons is what I call in-person lessons instead of online.

Rain, 75, accident.

I got this set up in about 45 seconds.

uh so i'm i'm glad i'm still a little frazzled trying to get here but i made it i made it mark nice shirt thank you thank you that's the second time i've heard that today i've had this shirt forever uh somebody today said hey i like the color of your shirt so thank you for that as usual um i'm going to let everybody kind of pile in and uh when everybody does we'll get started I didn't have any chance to even look at these questions.

I hit print, got them, and so we'll see what we got in store tonight.

Thank you, James.

I appreciate that.

I got a couple pictures around here.

I've got those over here, which is just some shots that a patient gave my father.

And then I've got Hogan over here.

I've got a print right here from the 97 PGA Tour event in New York of Tiger.

Actually, you might even be able to see it.

It's actually pretty cool.

Let's see if I can get that on camera right here.

See, it's an old school.

Got that lamp in there.

It's an old school sequence of Tiger, and that was from 97.

I don't know if y 'all have ever heard of the artist Anthony Ravelli, but he did a lot of.

you know hogan's art and his book and a couple things and when i was in long island for a little bit uh he actually had a he got a book made a nice little dedication into it and i've got a lot of his old uh illustrations like if you think like the five fundamentals you know the pictures like of the grip and the drawings and all that i've got a lot of old prints of his which are really fantastic i was lucky enough to Have them give me a couple of those.

All right.

Hey, Joey.

Larry, can you talk about how to hit a draw and fade?

I will.

I'm going to leave that to the maestro, but I'm going to tell you my two cents on it because I remember you asking that last time.

I said I'd get back to you.

I have an autographed picture with daily tickets from his victory at Bethpage.

Oh, cool.

Cool.

Yeah, I've got a lot of neat stuff.

I've got more in my other office, but I've got a lot of old memorabilia from a lot of tournaments.

So I hope everybody's doing well.

I hope everybody's still enjoying the sessions.

I think what I'm going to do this evening is just the same, is kind of go through the ones that I have on the list right here.

and then kind of leave it a little bit open format at the end.

I had a couple of students that were like, I really like that because it's just given me just one extra second with you to clarify things.

So I think I'm going to stick with that format unless I hear otherwise.

And for some reason, I guess people are listening to me on this Q &A session because they're like, hey, I watched your Q &A and I was doing this.

And I'm like, all right, well, take my information with a grain of salt sometimes.

All right, Steve, I'm really starting to see some real results, getting a nice callus in the middle right finger.

Thank you guys so much.

No problem.

Awesome.

That's why you can see that wrap of tape from the big dog.

I'll give this about one more minute, and then I'll get going now that my heart and my blood pressure isn't as high as it was about 10 minutes ago.

So I got to stay away from the caffeine during this session.

Let's see.

Looks like it's kind of winding down a little bit.

All right.

Jim, that might be on the question list for today.

It'd be great if you could pinpoint the lateral movement on the back and downswing via GOAT code.

That might be today.

Just remember, if you have any questions, put it on that community.

If you literally look at the community on that sheet.

I'm literally going just question by question.

You post it, it gets on the list, and I go to the next one.

So with that being said, welcome back to session five.

Let's get cooking as they say.

Now, last week, I wrote a little note right here.

uh to start right here because i skipped the question to kind of talk about the uphill downhill why things of that nature so i put myself a little note like hey go back and start here so if you have time chuck talks about how his swing will help with back issues which i really appreciate and that's definitely one thing that rotary prides themselves on is we want to keep you safe There's so many preventable injuries in golf.

It's absolutely insane how many people get hurt swinging this stick.

And it's completely preventable.

I also have a chronic right shoulder problem, soreness after hitting balls just below the right shoulder blade.

So I'm assuming for this student that right here at the base of the triangle, they're getting a little bit of soreness right here at the end of the shoulder blade.

I assume it will help.

It should, and I'll talk to you about that.

I think sometimes I don't take as big a divot due to this issue.

Is a divot even necessary in the swing?

Is a divot necessary?

Not at all.

I don't know if anybody watches social media or some clips.

Scotty famously asked Tiger, how come you never take a divot?

And his response back was, why should I take a divot?

And he replied, he's like, I don't know.

You tell me.

That's why I asked you.

And Tiger said, when I'm hitting it well, I don't take a divot.

And it reminds me of a story.

I can't think of the guy's name.

Darren Clark.

Darren Clark said this on the Golf Channel a long, long time ago, that the most impressive ball striking he's ever seen is when he was at the British Open and he literally watched Tiger hit every single range ball flush.

and never did anything but dent the turf and so the taking a divot is has always been the classic oh well if you want to get compression on the ball you got to take this big old kind of beaver pelt divot a divot is a mark of getting good compression there a divot is completely unnecessary you don't have that doesn't yield or make any more compression i mean you know when you start thinking about spin loft and a couple other factors but mainly that one that's going to be what really breaks down whether you're getting compression or not so don't think that you need to take a divot you should be able to get on your carpet hardwoods maybe depending on you know your wife or husband but you should be able to get on a piece of carpet and just glide through here like it's nothing just a nice little skim there's no need to take that big old gouging divot.

It doesn't really do anything for striking, but I want to comment a little bit on this right shoulder blade soreness.

Now, there's two times that I mainly see where people get the shoulder blade issue.

Number one, it's what I call shoulder blade wrenching, and it's in the backswing.

And so if you remember our old shoulder blade glide video, and we talk about how the blade, this scapula right here moves down and in.

Two inches right there.

A lot of players took that and ran with it too much and they overcooked it too soon.

All right.

And so what they started doing is they started making their takeaways and they're like, I got to get this turn.

And they would take this blade and move it as far and down and tight in as they could as fast as possible.

And when you do that one, it's going to kill your backswing turn.

So you're going to have to do something to get a little bit more turn.

The second thing is.

is it really puts a lot of tightness in that kind of the lower fibers of the lat right there and in the rhomboid area so there's no need to take this blade and shove it into your spine as fast as possible it's only going to wreck your golf swing and it can cause pain now since the question pertained to divots what i'm thinking is that with the right shoulder soreness coming down is just pushing with this And so sometimes you can start pushing with this and you may not take a big old over the top kind of gouging divot.

But if you're taking your right shoulder and you're driving it in the downswing, that's the worst thing you can do.

If you play off of a lot of mats, or let's say you practice off a lot of mats.

I don't know if you play off mats, but if you practice on mats.

We get reports of people that sometimes get tennis elbow when they're playing golf or sometimes having a lot of pain in their shoulder area.

And all that's coming from, I got 23 anchors in my shoulder, so I'm okay right now.

All that's coming from is taking.

the shoulder and diving down like this.

That's going to send that jarring motion up through your arm.

It's going to cause a lot of tendinitis in your elbow.

It's going to tend to hurt your wrist, but also your shoulder right there because you're just driving it down in the ground.

It's part of the reason why I have all these anchors in my trail shoulders because I was taught at one point to get to the top and what I needed to do was take my trail shoulder and cover the ball with it coming down.

Now I'm not going to call any instructors out on that one, but It's part of the reason why my labrum and my rotator cuff was fried because I was taught to push as hard as I could with that.

That couldn't be any further from the truth.

You don't have to use your shoulders at all in the downswing.

So the two things, if you're having pain there, one, the shoulder blade doesn't move like that in the backswing, especially if you watch the goat backswing video, it actually kind of moves up a little bit.

Second thing is it's just because you're driving this way.

That's the only thing that's really going to cause a lot of issues there.

Good question, though.

So the second kind of follow-up question with that.

Here you go, Larry.

I'm regularly faced with situations when I need to shape the ball.

Draw, fade, high, low.

Can you show how to play these shots?

Okay.

Now, as I mentioned earlier, I'm going to leave some of these things to the maestro.

All right.

Because.

The goat code is all about following the goat.

And if you go search and read what he says and what he's talked about with shot shaping, I did this a couple years ago.

He's got some mixed signals.

And Tiger does do a lot by feel, as he talks about all the time.

He's kind of feeling what he does with his trail arm.

I'm going to give you three different ways to think about this.

All right, so let's kind of take the draw and fade, and I'm going to base this on what he says, an easy way to do it that will work, and also another way, if you get really advanced, how you can maneuver the ball.

So Tiger talks about this first.

He says that when he's trying to hit a draw, there's two things that he's trying to achieve.

The first thing is that he drops back, and this is for right-handed players, so flip it if you're lefty.

So he takes his trail foot.

and drops his trail foot back that's first is going to start to ensure a little bit more of an inside out path now 85 of initial ball flight is due to clubface angle okay it's not the old 50 50 rule that some people think it is 85 of it's the clubface angle But you still need to try to make sure that your path is erring a little bit more right to left if you want to hit a draw.

So Tiger says what he does is he takes his trail foot and he drops his trail foot back a little bit close to his lead foot right here.

And then he takes the face and he opens it about a degree or two.

Because he wants to ensure that as he's swinging on this path, that the ball starts out to the right.

and curves back to the left.

So we've got an inside path right here, keeping the release and everything the same, but the face being open a little bit of a degree to ensure the fact that the ball starts out towards the right.

And I think that's where a lot of players kind of mess up when it comes to kind of shaping the ball is they delete the initial, where is this ball starting?

And they try to get the shape of it.

But they forget, okay, well, if I'm aiming here and I'm hitting a draw, well, that's finishing over here.

You're trying to use the draw to bring it into the pin.

So typically it's going to kind of start a little bit right at target to get yourself to do that.

So when Tiger's hitting a draw, that's how he talks about how he maneuvers it is he drops his trail foot back, he opens the face a slight bit degree, and he really makes sure that he swings a little bit more along that body line, making sure that he releases the club to get it to start to the right, come back to the left.

Now, conversely, it's the same thing for when he's trying to hit a fade, except for he puts a little bit more feel into this.

And so when he's setting up for a fade, what he's going to tend to do is he's going to tend to open just the tiniest bit, and then he's going to actually close the face.

I know you're saying, Craig, he's closing the face trying to hit a fade.

Same principle.

He's going to take the face and he's going to close it down a degree or two because he wants to ensure that that ball starting to the left and moving back to the right as he's kind of swinging just a little bit more along his body line.

Now, Tiger does a lot of things by feel, and obviously he's hit an immense amount of golf balls, so he knows where his club is and he knows everything that's going on.

What I would err towards if that's something that you struggle with, here's option number two, is that when you're trying to maneuver the golf ball, just kind of starting out, one thing that drove me crazy kind of growing up is that players, they get their body line right here and get the club over here, but they're trying to hit it this way.

So they're trying to hit it at the center of the mirror right here, and everything's moving over here towards the right.

Now, just as I mentioned earlier with the club face and initial ball flight, how I've always done it in the early years, and we'll get to the third one, is I've always taken where I'm going to get my club pointed towards my target.

I don't want to aim offline and hope it comes back if I don't pull off the perfect shot.

So I tend to take my club and get my line on the direction of the pin.

And once I have that, this is going to be where I start to kind of finagle around my setup.

If I'm going to air just a little bit more open right here to hit a cut, or I'm going to close it down, but I don't like, and that's why I'm saying this because Tiger changes his face a little bit.

I get a little wary when players start aiming the club off the golf or off their target because you're trying, if you're trying to maneuver the golf ball, you're trying to work it into a position.

And if you, let's say you want to hit the draw and you get your club face, all right, I'm going to aim at the right side of the green.

My feet are aimed at the right side of the green and the pins over here.

Well, you better hope that when you come down.

that you get that club face closing enough to get it starting back on line because what may happen is you either A, hit the dreaded straight ball, or you do hit a pure draw, but it doesn't have enough on it because you're aimed 15 yards right of the green.

You want to use the shot shaping to kind of feed it in there, keeping it a little bit more on its line than starting it way off line.

Now the third thing.

And I swing from a lead side perspective.

So if you think C4, if you get really advanced and you get really good at repeating your release and repeating your swing, oddly enough, I don't really change anything to maneuver my golf ball.

The only thing I really change is the rate of my rotation with my chest.

What do I mean by that?

Well, when I'm trying to hit a cut, I don't really change a whole bunch with my feet.

I don't really change a whole bunch with my face.

I make my same swing, and I let my chest open up a little bit more through the shot, which is going to delay the face a little bit to give me a little bit of a cut on it because I still want to release the club.

I think players, especially when they're trying to hit the cut, they don't realize you still want to release it.

What's the point of hitting a cut if, let's say, it's a seven-iron shot?

Well, Craig, I can just get up here and I can hold off on it and hit a cut all day long.

Yeah, but now you're knocking 30 yards of it and you're having to go from your seven iron to your five iron.

You're kind of taking away the disadvantage or the advantage that you have of being able to maneuver the golf ball.

So for me, when I'm trying to do something, I really don't even have to change that much unless it's on a severe degree, like you go around a tree.

And so for me, I'm able to have the feel.

that I can allow my chest to open up a little bit more through the golf ball, which is going to delay the club.

And conversely, the same thing for a draw.

If I want to hit a draw, as I start to come down, I feel my chest staying closed for longer.

Because if my chest stays closed, this club is going to come in here and release a little bit sooner.

That's a third way of doing it.

So maneuvering and changing ball flight, especially draw and fade, there's a hundred different ways to do it.

There's a hundred different ways that people teach how to do it.

Tiger changes his stance and ensures the starting line by changing a tiny bit of his face.

For a draw, slightly open, dropping the right foot back, converse for the fade.

The old one that I used to work on.

was getting the club right at my target, setting up my body line so I can still swing and release down my body line.

Nothing really changes, but the ball starts primarily pretty much on target.

And then if you get really advanced, then you can actually start to change the rate of rotation with your chest because you still want to release the club at the end of the day.

And you can get your chest a little bit more open through, which will delay it, or you can let it stay a little bit more closed, which will cause that release to happen on the sooner side.

Now, in that question, there was also a little bit of high and low.

Well, low is also the same kind of issue.

For a low shot, all you're really going to do is you're going to take that ball center or even move it a little bit back of center right here.

And the main thing that you're trying to do is the feel, just even kind of like with the wedge shots, is to feel your chest and your lateral motion staying out ahead of the golf ball, which is going to delay this release.

Watch any of our videos on social media.

Chuck talks all the time about how when Tiger's up here towards the top, he's got a really good lateral motion to the lead side so that as he moves down, he doesn't run out of right arm.

Well, the more I keep moving this way, the more I can keep that face delofted.

And even if you combine that with just a little bit more of an open chest this way, it's kind of you can hit a little bit of a squeeze fade.

So with the ball flight, with the low.

Move it just a tiny bit back in the stance, and all you're trying to do is really kind of maintain on that lateral motion and maintain that extension in that wrist as you work into this position because that's going to really deal off the club.

And with high, that one's kind of a little bit easier because you really don't have to do anything with your ball position, and you want to be careful.

I think I see this a lot for players when they're trying to hit it high.

They get the ball way up here, and they try to lift it up.

It's very natural to do that.

But what ends up happening is they try to lift it up, and they end up bottoming out back here, and they kind of get that drop kick lift.

There's no need if you need to fly the ball a little bit higher to move the ball in any crazy positions.

You can kind of keep it in the same.

And what do we need to do down here?

The only thing that needs to happen, if you've been working on the release and what we've been talking about, the only thing that needs to happen is this release has to happen a little bit sooner.

Getting back into extension, it's going to be adding loft as I come through.

So as I'm trying to hit it high right here and I'm working down, all I'm trying to do is ensure that my trail wrist is working a little bit more under and releasing a little bit sooner so I can get this wrist to work back into extension to add some height to it.

Can you show how to play these shots?

Would you supinate in a fairway bunker?

or focus on controlled body movements only to ensure clean contact well in a fairway bunker you definitely want to make sure that you have clean contact would you supinate yeah you're still going to come in a little bit shallow i don't want you to get into a fairway bunker and think like okay i've got to make a radically different swing right now or i got to get up here and i've got to have this big steep angle of attack And so you don't want to have a big, steep angle of attack.

And a fairway bunker, how I've taught most of my players, is this.

You're still going to supinate, but you don't need to try to force this big, shallowing motion.

One, whatever your situation is, take one more club.

So if it's a seven iron, take a six iron.

The reason I say take a six iron is because I'm going to need you to choke down on it.

I don't want you making this big, long, kind of gangly, powerful swing because I really don't want you moving all over the place.

Right now, we need to focus a little bit more on stability and getting this ball out.

So in a fairway bunker, it's going to typically be where I'm going to choke down just a little bit more.

I'm going to play my ball center or maybe even slightly back because I want to make sure I have that ball first contact.

I'm not going to try to come steeper.

or come a little bit more shallow i'm just going to make my normal golf swing and if i move this ball back a little bit right here i'm going to more than likely catch the ball first so i'm going to take one more club i'm going to typically choke down and i'm going to keep it a little bit more into kind of a three-quarter length swing because i don't want to make this big full turn and have this big post up where now i may lose a little bit of my feet as i'm trying to pull some leverage from the ground and i start to slide I'm also not going to have this big kind of wide old stance.

I think that's a misnomer that players have been taught in the past is like get in a fairway bunker and get that stability because you don't want to be moving anywhere.

Well, to me, that still doesn't feel natural.

I'm going to make a little bit more of my normal stance.

I'm going to dig in just enough to where I feel solid.

I don't want to lower too much, just enough where I feel my feet are going to be okay.

I'm going to play the ball center.

or just slight bit further back, I'm going to choke down on the club.

I'm going to typically take one more going from a seven to a six iron, and I'm going to focus on a nice controlled three-quarter motion and let that kind of get the ball out for me because not that a fairway bunker is a big -time hazard or anything like that.

Are we back?

That was weird.

All right.

My apologies.

That was different.

See, this is why we do all the audio tests.

Where did I leave off?

Anybody know the last thing that you heard?

Yes, you know the last thing that I heard.

Three-quarter swing.

Okay.

So I'm going to make a little bit more of a three-quarter controlled swing because my whole goal is to get this puppy out of the bunker, and I don't want to shoot myself in the foot or compound the mistake.

It's okay to make bogeys.

It's okay.

Get it out of the fairway bunker.

Even if you don't catch it, make sure it gets out.

Even if you're 20 yards short and there's no trouble right there, pitch it up, maybe make par, maybe make bogey.

Don't walk away with an eight.

It's something that I see players all the time do that drives me absolutely nuts when they're trying to play and they're trying to score.

The goal is to score as well as you can.

Get out of the trouble.

Get out of the hazard.

You don't need to hit any type of miraculous shot.

So just in case for the camera, ball center, slightly back, choke up, take one more club.

Three-quarter controlled, nothing crazy with the stance, nothing crazy with the swing.

Same old standard swing.

You'll catch it a little bit sooner.

All right.

On to the next.

I feel that my weight gets stuck forward on the downswing, and I don't release the club properly because it feels cramped, and I chicken wing.

The ball starts on the correct path and then continues right.

So you're probably, as you're getting that, you're probably getting the face square because as you're pushing through here with your trail hand a little bit too much, you're probably getting the face square.

But if you feel like your weight's getting stuck or too forward on the downswing, what do you think's causing that?

Now, yes, as we move through our cycle right here and I use my core and I coil up into here and I get my pressure, I want that to be snappy.

As soon as I get my pressure back, I want to start getting my hip.

I don't have time to sit here and kind of be lazy.

I'm never going to get posted up in time.

That's why as soon as I feel like I get my pressure and I get that lateral motion back, I'm going.

I'm getting this hip out of the way.

But think about all the errors and things and problems that can happen in the golf swing.

If your weight is getting stuck forward, you're cramped and you're chicken winging.

What are you probably doing?

If you're up here at the top, what do you think you're just pushing?

I used to tell people in the clinic when we were doing lead side, if I asked them what they needed to do in the swing, that if they fell asleep during the class and all they said was pull when I asked them a question, they'd more than likely be right.

No matter what topic we were talking about.

Well, push.

is more than likely going to be your answer to all the faults that you're making in this swing.

If you feel like your weight's getting stuck forward and you're getting cramped and you're getting the chicken wing, it's more than likely because you're pushing with this trail shoulder down or you're pushing and firing this right tricep a little bit too soon.

So with all this momentum and energy driving from here, this person doesn't have a chance to work.

When you think of what the brain is trying to do in everyday golf and everyday life, but just in general, all the brain's really trying to do is keep you upright.

Like as I'm standing up here talking to you, all it's trying to do is just make sure that I don't fall over.

So in the golf swing, it's kind of the same thing.

It doesn't really care that you want to play golf.

It doesn't really care that you want to make a really good golf swing or shoot your score.

All it's saying is, all right.

My host is holding this stick and trying to move it from here to here.

I don't care what happens with that.

Just don't let the host fall over.

So as you start to move and you start pushing from the upper half too soon, what are your legs going to do?

How would your legs react?

Your legs are going to say, oh, no.

All right.

He's got all this momentum and inertia coming down from the top and everything's driving forward and losing balance.

Well, is the brain also going to be like, hey, let's post up for power?

Or is it going to say slam on the brakes?

If you start pushing too soon from the top and you start driving too hard from the top, your legs are going to take a nap.

Period.

Because they're going to say stabilize.

Don't let host die.

Don't knock head on floor.

So more than likely, the simplest explanation is that you're pushing with your shoulder or pushing with your arm coming down.

And that's why you can't do it.

So the first thing that I would do is I would go look at that and I'd make sure that as you start to coil and get back, that your chest or your shoulders feel like they're staying back to the target a little bit longer as you're making this motion, which should allow you to start shallowing out and clearing your hip.

we'd have to see it but i guarantee you that's the problem okay so number number my main struggle with the instruction and goat code is getting my upper body and my lower body to do two different things i have a hard time getting my right leg and hip to drive forward to make room for my right arm at gdp while at the same time getting my shoulders to tilt backwards rather than turn forwards as my right leg pivots so i'm taking that as as you start to drive with your right you're driving with your shoulder this way and this is the struggle even when i do execute this move correctly there are times when i tilt my shoulders too much and consequently block the shot way to the right.

Well, remember when you're right here and you move into side, Ben, it's not about taking your head and moving it away.

You're not just going to be able to immediately go like that.

All right.

That's not what we're looking for with that.

I'm sure I'm not the only person to struggle with this.

What is the best way to attack this problem?

And can you give me a drill to work on this specific issue?

It's a little bit tough to kind of.

piecemeal this problem together.

It's tough to piecemeal it together because they're all kind of in sync with one another.

Because this motion right here of taking my trail shoulder and moving into side bin, this is exactly how my legs react.

My legs don't stay here.

That kind of puts a little tightness in my back right there.

So as I start to move this down, i allow my pelvis to shift just as if i was skipping the stone or throwing an underhanded softball so this motion right here it's hard to say okay well let's do this let's they're all kind of one piece as we're doing this because this right hip's driving and moving down into gdp and if you're tilting your shoulders too much consequently well as you're going in the backswing So you start from here and you start to coil and you get into the takeaway.

And as you pass the takeaway and your trail shoulder starts moving towards the target, you're going to start shifting a little bit before you start completing the backswing.

You start moving back laterally that way.

This motion of taking the trail shoulder into side bend in this hip has to work as a unit.

Now you probably, I'm guessing this question was because of that live lesson.

that Chuck had, if anybody's seen it, where he put the stick on his hips and he put the stick here and said, okay, well, when you get down into impact, this should be what happens is that the shoulders don't turn in the downswing, they tilt, right?

There really isn't any kind of turn in the swing, they tilt.

And so as I tilt, this is how my hips work.

This is how I would practice it if you really struggle seeing the visuals.

Taking a club, and the only reason I'm not holding this against my chest, I got this mic right here, and I don't want to just be pop, pop, pop, pop.

Is take this and then start getting in front of a mirror.

I'm going to use this one right here.

And focus on, okay, as this hip clears, my trail shoulder is going to go down.

I think players are trying to make this move way too dramatic.

Way, way, way too dramatic.

Where they start kind of getting almost like this S curve as they do that.

If it doesn't feel good, don't do it.

If your body's telling you something doesn't feel right, if I can give you any advice today, don't do it.

Your body's telling you that for a reason.

But this motion, as I get up here towards the top and my trail shoulder blade gets into position, I can't just immediately move into this.

Like that's not how it works.

As I move laterally, my shoulders are going to start to unwind and move into this tilt position.

And so reading that question, what I'm thinking is, is that you're trying to get such a dramatic side bend immediately.

so either the head stays back and you get a lot of bend and you can't get the weight over there because you're trying to make such a dramatic motion with it i would take two sticks an alignment rod a club whatever and i would get up here towards the top and then start practicing this where the this tilts down we've got one motion like this this kind of goes back if you think of the old dead drill Like these mirrors right here, we used to have players do that all the time.

We'd have to put their arms and hands across the chest.

And without fail, my over-the-toppers, I'd say, hey, send me a dead drill.

Well, that's not the dead drill.

All you did was just spin your shoulders.

They all had to practice, oh, here are my shoulders.

Here are my shoulders.

Here are my shoulders.

I'm not trying to actively push or fire them coming down.

And then the biggest pet peeve is they wouldn't do it any faster.

Well, you've got to be able to do that at pace.

So I would take the sticks.

I would get in front of a mirror and watch yourself.

And when you get really proficient at it, start to add some pace to it.

And I think what you're going to find is that you're probably just trying to make the moves way too exaggerated.

especially with the side bend and the tilting.

You're trying to do that to such a degree that nothing's really wanting to respond.

Hopefully that answers.

All right.

Can you discuss how the lead side works in trail side transition and move into GDP?

Well, I mean, The lead side works as we get to here.

You're still going to have your adductor, ADD, not AB, Your adductor is still going to be helping as you're moving laterally, pulling the weight over here into position.

So the lead side, you're still going to feel a little bit with this oblique.

You're going to feel a little bit with this adductor as you start to pull the weight into GDP.

I think that it's easy to get locked into getting the right side or trail side too active in those phases of the swing and lose the awareness.

I tend to hang back and spin out too much from the trail side and have power and speed loss, at least for me.

Specifically referencing the muscles in transition video and how it would relate to both, the transition and the post-up move.

In a lead side dominant swing, we try to keep the left shoulder Are lead shoulder lower than the trail?

Correct.

Does this still apply in the trail side dominant swing or do we just let the lead shoulder rise in response?

Let the lead shoulder move in response to your trail.

Remember, when you're a trail side dominant swing, your trail side is kind of controlling the swing.

And this kind of goes back into the question that was prior to it.

My shoulders are here.

At the top.

All right.

So let me wish I could find a sticker on here, but I don't know.

I think somebody took my alignment right.

So my shoulders are here up at the top.

Now, what I want you to notice is that there's a plane to these shoulders or my shoulders.

There's a plane to this.

As I start to move back into the lead side, well, as I'm moving to here, my trail shoulder is still higher than my lead right now.

I don't get to here.

and then go like this so you can see where my head goes you can see i actually got more extension in my spine now as i start to move into my side bend and crunch this motion my shoulders move like this they're not going to go here and go like that i mean obviously you can see you know some early extension and that's really putting a lot of stress on my lumbar spine so when i get into this position your lead side your adductors your oblique they're still working to help with that lateral motion and getting stability in that lead leg because you're going to really pull on those downs maybe especially as you start to post up vertically to create a real firm lead leg but as my shoulders are here and i start to make my scat move so if you watch the end of the goat backswing where chuck talks about as you're here you kind of make that scap move well as i'm doing that now i'm moving into side bin i can't i can't go like this like that's not what you're trying to do right here so lead sidewise yes you're going to keep lead shoulder down you're going to focus on sitting in the left side and getting over this way trail sidewise as i move into side bin you can see my pelvis is starting to shift laterally as this is starting to drop But it doesn't immediately, like I don't yank it down like that and then hope everything works.

I'm moving into this position.

I'm moving into this position.

So that kind of goes back to the prior question where this may be just a little bit rushed 1000 right there.

1001 Let me make sure I cut all this.

1002 Tend to hang back and spin out too much 1003 from the trail.

Yeah, and that's probably 1004 due to the same thing, is that you're 1005 trying to do it too much.

all on this side 1006 and get that rotation for power.

You don't 1007 really need to think about trying to force 1008 a ton to the lead side if you're getting 1009 the backswing correctly.

Because as this 1010 trail scap starts to work up a little bit 1011 right here, you can see.

So I'm making 1012 that motion.

What's happening?

So I start 1013 to get into extension.

If you watch the 1014 four pressure shifts video, it'll really 1015 explain it to you well.

I move into this 1016 side.

1017 As I get into extension, this is going to 1018 start to help my pressure shift back to 1019 the lead side.

And now as I start to make 1020 that scapular motion, that's going to be 1021 how I pivot in the side bend right here.

1022 So I'd A, make sure that you're getting 1023 the backswing so that you can start 1024 getting back to the lead side kind of soon 1025 enough.

1026 But I don't think you need to think about 1027 a ton.

Let that shoulder react to the fact 1028 that you're dropping your scap and your 1029 pelvis are pivoting that lead leg's 1030 posting.

1031 Uh-oh, here's a J-release one.

1032 When Chuck first started teaching a trail 1033 side pattern, he talked about widening the 1034 angle of the left hand.

So for those of 1035 you that don't know, there's a section 1036 talking about how when you're trying to 1037 kind of throw from the top is that the 1038 feeling would kind of be like widening the 1039 lean hand as this arm came down.

Instead 1040 of trying to get like a massive down cock 1041 right here, it'd be this kind of widening 1042 and swinging coming down.

1043 The right hand was used to support speed 1044 up this action.

1045 He later then talked about the J release 1046 where the right hand seems to be the main 1047 focus.

True.

And if you look at those 1048 videos, they're probably going to be in 1049 the lead side patterns section.

1050 Then he talked about supination.

1051 J release, he says, body needs to react to 1052 the J release in a throwing pattern.

And 1053 the goat drill body movements are the most 1054 important.

And he mentioned supination 1055 almost as an afterthought.

and the first 1056 seminary says you need to combine 1057 supination side bend pressure shift to the 1058 left can you confirm the widening of the 1059 left hand is now redundant yes is the j 1060 release exactly the same as supination i 1061 wanted to say it's exactly the same as 1062 supination i think that people are trying 1063 to make these motions completely different 1064 you know just by watching the questions 1065 and you know getting the feedback that i 1066 get from students 1067 that you know there this the j release 1068 pattern if i'm right here and i'm making 1069 you know the j release i mean if i hinge 1070 forward am i in a supinated position i'm 1071 100 in a supinated position i'm not take 1072 the j release isn't taking this and 1073 steepening the pitch of the shaft in the 1074 supination video chuck talks about really 1075 making sure that this goes this way well 1076 you don't need to be that dramatic with it 1077 unless it's something that you you know 1078 you really struggle with it but you don't 1079 This doesn't happen just independently.

1080 As I'm making that motion, I'm moving to 1081 this side.

I'm not going to be able to get 1082 that way under plane unless I'm just 1083 solely kind of doing it with my arm right 1084 here.

And so my body is reacting to the 1085 fact that this is supinating and I'm 1086 trying to snap it down here.

So, yes, 1087 there's still that supination motion is 1088 still happening as I'm doing that.

And so 1089 you don't need to think about trying to 1090 widen the lead hand.

That would be a 1091 little bit redundant right there.

1092 And in a J-release pattern, the body is 1093 reacting to the motion.

1094 It is reacting to the skipping of the 1095 stone analogy or the throwing the ball.

1096 Because what you want to feel is that you 1097 can throw it hard from the top and that 1098 your body is going to kind of brace for 1099 impact.

And as it braces for impact, it's 1100 going to fire all these muscles to really 1101 slam on the brakes so you can get the 1102 speed transfer through this conduit.

1103 All right.

1104 On to the next.

1105 I'm trying to keep my head a little more 1106 still on the backswing, but it still moves 1107 quite a bit back.

Okay, I like where this 1108 is going.

Good question.

1109 And then up and high.

1110 So you're saying that your head's going 1111 back and then up and high.

1112 When I lift my hands to the top of the 1113 swing, are there any exercises or thoughts 1114 that I should focus on to keep my head 1115 from moving so much?

Well, the first thing 1116 is if your head's moving a ton in the 1117 backswing right here, you're just pushing 1118 with this side.

All you're doing is just 1119 moving your spine into flexion.

And that's 1120 kind of the first place that I would take 1121 you is think of the swing from the inside 1122 out.

1123 So if I'm right here and I'm starting to 1124 make my backswing and my head's going this 1125 way.

my spine's moving into flexion i'm 1126 pushing with my lead side right here and 1127 this goes for a lead side or trail side 1128 swing so as you're moving into this 1129 position what i would put a lot of focus 1130 on is thinking about i've got to get into 1131 extension i've got to move my back into 1132 extension to where i have this kind of 1133 lordosis right here this curvature because 1134 that's going to be what really kind of 1135 gets my set joints to line up not only for 1136 safety purposes but making it all the good 1137 magic happen and so the first thing i 1138 would do is if my head's going a ton this 1139 is a great tool because you can take a 1140 mirror you can put a piece of blue tape on 1141 it like painter's tape and you can put 1142 your head on the and watch how you're 1143 doing or you can use something fixed in 1144 the background like like i've got that 1145 frame right there 1146 But the first thing that I would do is I 1147 would focus on watching myself and 1148 practice letting my trail shoulder work a 1149 little bit up and then move into 1150 extension.

1151 Because you've got to get this push out 1152 first.

The core is winding back, 1153 scapula is going up slightly, not 1154 shrugging, scratching my ear, but it kind 1155 of moves up a little bit this way as I 1156 move into extension.

1157 You're saying this is happening when 1158 you're lifting your hands to the top.

And 1159 that's probably because you're solely just 1160 lifting your hands.

1161 Is that you move from push to here.

You 1162 kind of run out of real estate to be able 1163 to keep going this way.

So as you start to 1164 finish the backswing, because pushing from 1165 this side is going to do what?

1166 So if we were to think about this kind of 1167 logistically, if I push from my lead side 1168 and move into flexion, what's the club 1169 going to be?

1170 The club's typically going to be inside 1171 and low.

And so as you're making this 1172 motion, your save is, uh-oh, I'm going 1173 inside a little bit low.

I better get my 1174 arms up.

And so as you start kind of 1175 lifting your arms too independently of 1176 your body, now here comes your head.

1177 Pushing over here, now here comes my head 1178 because I've got to get this club up.

I 1179 would focus first on watching yourself, 1180 letting the scapula move a little bit up.

1181 and making sure that you get into 1182 extension and then doing the same thing 1183 especially even if you just take your 1184 trail hand right here and you wind 1185 yourself and really feel like you're 1186 getting a good kind of deep stretch from 1187 your toe all the way out to your hand 1188 right here and as you do that for me as i 1189 start to do that i actually feel not only 1190 the tension right here but and the coil 1191 but i almost feel like i'm wanting to prep 1192 to go this way because it's it's wanting 1193 me to kind of go down it's wanting me to 1194 get into this so i can start to move back 1195 this way that's what i would do we got 1196 that little bit of problem with the head 1197 as i would first check with push and if 1198 i've said it once i'll say it a million 1199 times get one of these 1200 If you don't have an iPhone, if you don't 1201 have a camera, if you don't have any of 1202 that stuff, 1203 get one of the.

A mirror's invaluable.

1204 When I was back in my heyday, I used to 1205 have to wait in my condo until the sun 1206 went to a certain level around like 3 or 4 1207 o 'clock in the afternoon.

But that would 1208 create a perfect mirror image in the 1209 backsliding door.

and i'd have like two 1210 hours to get really good practice and find 1211 anything you can to see yourself need to 1212 figure out how the trail wrist works from 1213 gdp to impact in slow motion don't 1214 overthink this one the wrist is an 1215 extension so the wrist i'm going to start 1216 to have some deviation and some rotation 1217 right here 1218 The elbow pit of the trail hand is facing 1219 straight.

You can see my elbow pit right 1220 here.

I'm in GDP.

1221 I'm not taking my elbow and going like 1222 this.

I'm not adding internal rotation of 1223 my arm.

I'm in this position with this 1224 extension right here.

I'm going to start 1225 to lose because I'm going to get into 1226 deviation right here.

And this is going to 1227 start to rotate and square up.

But you can 1228 see I'm not doing that with my elbow.

1229 All right.

I'm not taking my elbow and 1230 rotating it internally this way.

1231 Could you show us in slow motion what the 1232 trail risk does between GDP and impact?

A 1233 little confused about sequence.

Maybe I'm 1234 overthinking.

I think you are 1235 overthinking.

And that's okay.

We all do 1236 that in golf.

I mean, every time you hit a 1237 bad shot, you probably go down your 20 1238 list of what could have caused it.

We all 1239 do that in golf.

But if you were to put 1240 yourself into GDP right here, think about 1241 this.

How am I going to get this club, or 1242 here's a golf ball.

How am I going to get 1243 this club to this golf ball right here?

1244 Well, first, I'm going to have to lose 1245 angle at some point.

And at some point in 1246 time, this club is going to have to be 1247 square.

So all it is is deviation right 1248 here and rotation.

1249 That's all that has to happen right here.

1250 So as I go from here to here, that's going 1251 to be what gets the bat on the ball.

1252 Also, we'd like to see how to better take 1253 away the club.

for pitch shots and short 1254 wedges without rolling it open but also 1255 not leaving it super shut by having the 1256 trail hand start to feel like it's pushing 1257 it closed why are you feeling like you 1258 have to push it closed why are you feeling 1259 like you have to push it closed if the 1260 club face says i'm taking if i'm making 1261 the pitch shot swing as i go back let me 1262 grab a wedge 1263 Making it closed, I would actually be 1264 turning my wrist down like this.

If I go 1265 into this position and I add extension 1266 right here, what's my club face relatively 1267 doing to my spine right now?

1268 It's pretty darn close to it right here.

1269 Rolling it open, we don't obviously want 1270 to do that, or push with the lead arm.

1271 But not leaving it super shut by having 1272 the trail hand start to feel like it's 1273 pushing it close.

Well, to me, that sounds 1274 like, and it's kind of like, because 1275 you're looking at video and you're looking 1276 at different parameters to check your 1277 swing with.

As I'm right here and I get my 1278 core going, I'm making takeaway and pitch.

1279 Remember, my lead wrist is still going to 1280 have a little bit of set in this.

there's 1281 still going to be a little bit of cocking 1282 right here because it's got to set up 1283 plain.

So as my lead wrist has a little 1284 bit of cocking right here and my trail 1285 wrist goes back, the only way for me to 1286 have this shut would be what?

1287 Well, now if I bring this back down to the 1288 golf ball, I mean, my face is 35, 40 1289 degrees closed right now.

If I were to 1290 actually do that, you can see this is 45.

1291 30 degrees closed and ton closed right 1292 there.

So it's this little bit of set and 1293 it's this little bit of hinge.

It 1294 shouldn't be overly shut.

And if it's 1295 overly shut, then you're more than likely 1296 turning it down this way.

Because if I 1297 just take this and I hinge my wrist, that 1298 club overly shut, it's still pretty darn 1299 square.

Think about it from this 1300 perspective.

Maybe this will be the kind 1301 of light bulb with it.

If my club face is 1302 square right now.

And all I did is solely 1303 just hinge my wrist.

1304 Okay.

All I did was solely just, it's 1305 still square.

I let it go and it's square.

1306 If it's shutting down, then you're 1307 manually doing something.

This arm is 1308 going to be internally rotating or you're 1309 adding flexion to it or you're turning 1310 down this hand.

It's a little bit of blend 1311 of the lead wrist.

letting this hinge so 1312 you don't need to have it super shut 1313 that's not the goal I don't want it super 1314 shit it'd be great if you discussed 1315 exactly the shaft of the putter should 1316 point for instance to the belt or even the 1317 belly button 1318 In addition, we'd love to know how to 1319 choose correct putter length.

1320 Well, two things I've never really thought 1321 about that much.

1322 I don't try to aim the putter.

1323 Let's see.

1324 I want to use that.

Oh, here.

Perfect.

1325 Got an old 8802.

1326 So as I'm getting set up to the putter, 1327 I want to make sure that my putter lie.

is 1328 set correctly so that I can get the center 1329 of the face sitting on the ground.

I don't 1330 try to necessarily make sure that it 1331 points perfectly towards my belly button 1332 or towards my belt buckle because I'm kind 1333 of letting that be adjusted by what I'm 1334 doing with my body.

And so when I think of 1335 kind of getting the correct length and the 1336 correct sitting of the putter, I want to 1337 get this to where the putter is sitting 1338 flat, 1339 right?

So this putter is sitting flat 1340 right now.

And if I set up to it, In this 1341 position, you're going to see that my eyes 1342 are way over the golf ball right now.

1343 Well, that's not where I want my eyes in a 1344 putt.

I need to bend this putter.

1345 This one's way too upright for me because 1346 as I get into position right here, my eyes 1347 are way too far over the golf ball.

I need 1348 to make sure that my eyes are on the golf 1349 ball or slightly inside it.

I prefer 1350 slightly inside.

1351 And so that's going to help me dictate 1352 when I get into position whether this lie 1353 and where this putter is going to be 1354 aiming because.

1355 I don't really try to think about aiming 1356 my putter head at a certain specific body 1357 point.

Everybody's got different length 1358 torso or arm.

1359 But arm wise, this is always what I've 1360 done.

I don't want you up here like this 1361 where your arms are super duper duper 1362 bent, nor do I want you stretching for 1363 dear life.

If you think about the goat 1364 grip and what you're doing.

So I'm trying 1365 to get this in the fingers correctly right 1366 here.

And you can see that when I get into 1367 position.

1368 This isn't locked out and that wouldn't be 1369 comfortable to putt with right there.

I'm 1370 letting my arm hang.

1371 Now when I get over here and get my grip, 1372 this is in a nice comfortable position 1373 with my elbow pit facing out right here 1374 where I can get my eyelet.

And when I set 1375 up right here, I can see that this toe is 1376 sitting way too far up.

So it's definitely 1377 not the right lie for me.

But this is kind 1378 of how I'm gauging.

If I were to grab this 1379 putter right now and say.

1380 You know, if I put my arm down and the 1381 putter's right here, that putter's too 1382 short for me, right?

Because when I'm 1383 essentially kind of like clapping hands 1384 right here, this is where I'm balanced.

1385 This is where, 1386 okay, I'm in position right here.

Now let 1387 me get my goat grip.

Let me get my fingers 1388 on, get into this position.

For me, this 1389 is a perfect length putter.

The lie is not 1390 very good.

But this is a perfect length 1391 where I can get my arm straight, I can get 1392 my goat grip on, and I can use my core to 1393 swing it back and forth.

1394 you don't want to see where you're getting 1395 like this so let this hang see where your 1396 eyes are relative to it okay this is kind 1397 of length that i need for me you know i'm 1398 5 '9 was 5 '10 at one point but now i'm 5 1399 '9 and so for me like 33 and three 1400 quarters is my length putter because i've 1401 got very long arms for my height and 1402 that's where i need to have it set But I 1403 don't try to aim it at any specific body 1404 part.

I like to be where if I want to have 1405 connection to my core, I get my goat grip.

1406 I get it connected to my core where I'm 1407 doing this.

If I'm bent like this, I'm not 1408 going to feel a good connection with my 1409 core.

This thing is going to kind of want 1410 to swing out on its own.

Let the arm hang.

1411 Get the grip.

Get it straight.

1412 Elbow pit's facing away.

I got the grip 1413 right here.

I can feel this connection.

1414 It's kind of where I need to be.

1415 Oh, well, 1416 I went over time.

1417 So we now know where to start next time.

1418 Okay.

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1432 As I said earlier.

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1442 I don't think there was a whole bunch of 1443 fireworks this week on the questions, but 1444 I think we had some good questions, 1445 especially kind of like with the right 1446 shoulder blade and working the ball 1447 because there's a lot of different 1448 information out there.

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1471 I'm going to answer a couple questions, 1472 and I truly, truly, truly appreciate 1473 everybody giving me an opportunity to help 1474 you all out with the swing and with these 1475 questions.

1476 So without further ado, I'm going to kind 1477 of go to the screen right here and see 1478 what's going on.

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1480 I'm going to have to scroll just a little 1481 bit.

1482 Donald.

1483 Whoa.

My screen just jumped.

Like crazy.

1484 Donald, does the left shoulder move down 1485 on the backswing?

Yes.

1486 So as you make the backswing, this lead 1487 shoulder is starting to work down.

So as 1488 my trail shoulder is working up, my lead 1489 shoulder is working down.

It's something 1490 that I see all too often is that as 1491 players start to go back, they push with 1492 their lead shoulder.

The trail shoulder 1493 goes this way.

Lead shoulder gets high.

1494 Now they're in a whole world of problems.

1495 David, also, is it the chest turning 1496 through to get to impact?

1497 Turning through impact or turning to get 1498 to impact?

1499 Because as I move up here towards the top 1500 and I move my pressure back and move into 1501 position, you can see that my stomach is 1502 opening up as my core is rotating through 1503 right here, as I'm starting to post up.

By 1504 the time I get down into here, 1505 everything's starting to fire and decel so 1506 I can transfer the speed.

You don't keep 1507 trying to rotate through the shot.

If 1508 you're getting here and you keep rotating 1509 through the shot, you're not going to 1510 release the club, and you're going to tie 1511 your club head speed to the rotation of 1512 your body, which that's going to kind of 1513 be the slowest way to do it.

1514 Thank you, David.

Thank you, Chris.

I 1515 appreciate it.

1516 David, do the arms get closer together at 1517 the top of the swing?

1518 Well, if this is my arm length right here, 1519 I'll bring out trusty rotary connect.

1520 You tell me.

If my arms and hands are 1521 right here and I get up here towards the 1522 top, where are my arms relative?

Are they 1523 closer or further away or kind of the 1524 same?

1525 Kind of the same.

1526 Not really celebrating or celebrating, 1527 separating, or I'm not trying to get here 1528 and then.

squeeze them together as I get 1529 to the top of my backswing.

1530 Lee, can you cover the exact sequence of 1531 the trail side release?

Is it right hip, 1532 right shoulder, and right arm?

It seems to 1533 hurt some when I try to do it, so I want 1534 to know exactly to make sure I understand.

1535 Well, are you doing it a little bit more 1536 in a squish the bug fashion or a J release 1537 fashion?

1538 If it's hurting, 1539 I think to me, just reading the note, if 1540 it's hurting, then to me, you're taking 1541 this.

It's going back to the exaggeration 1542 that you're going to the extreme and 1543 you're not letting your hips pivot.

1544 I guess a better way to kind of answer 1545 that question is I'll use this right here.

1546 If you think about like the tennis stroke.

1547 If I'm moving into position and my core is 1548 rotating through and clearing, this is 1549 going to be how I'm protecting my spine.

1550 If everything's staying kind of overly 1551 closed and shut this way and I'm going 1552 down here, that's going to cause a little 1553 bit of the problem.

So what I would check 1554 to make sure is that as your right hip 1555 drives, your trail shoulder starts to work 1556 down, your trail elbow works down into 1557 this position, is make sure that you are 1558 getting it through.

Because if you're not 1559 letting this move enough and you're kind 1560 of staying here, you are going to get a 1561 little bit excessive in that side bend and 1562 secondary tilt, like where you're getting 1563 a little bit of pain.

1564 Could you show the two sticks with the 1565 hips and the shoulder one more time?

1566 Sure.

1567 So if you take.

An alignment rod or golf 1568 club, whatever you want to use.

1569 Put one on your chest right here.

1570 I've got to kind of align with my 1571 shoulders.

I've just got this mic here.

1572 I've got one on my hip.

1573 So as I start to move in the downswing, 1574 you can see how this upper one is tilted 1575 as my hips are open right here.

The down 1576 the line will give you a better visual of 1577 1578 So you see how I'm tilting as my.

hip is 1579 working open i'm not trying to rotate 1580 these sticks together i'm feeling the side 1581 bend and feeling the tilt as my hips open 1582 and that's kind of going back to the prior 1583 question that's how i'm staying safe 1584 because i'm allowing the hip to open uh i 1585 keep hitting short iron and wedges to the 1586 right and can't figure it out send in your 1587 swing david we'll be happy to take a look 1588 forum community swing review 1589 If you're hitting it to the right, face is 1590 open right there.

There's a ton of 1591 different things that can cause your face 1592 to be open.

1593 But more than likely, you're just spinning 1594 so much that the club isn't squaring up 1595 right here.

So you're getting a little 1596 steep on it.

1597 Trying to motor it through with the body 1598 too much or your upper half.

1599 Going back to the question on the pitch 1600 shots, I tend to lose them right.

1601 Any suggestions I want to look for?

I 1602 don't do this with full swing.

I tend to 1603 pull full swing slightly left.

1604 Going back to the pitch shots, I tend to 1605 lose them to the right.

What should I look 1606 for?

Nick, if you're losing them to the 1607 right, there's a lot of different things 1608 you can look at right here.

You may be 1609 filleting the face open a little bit, and 1610 as you're using your core, it's staying 1611 open.

But what I would check for is make 1612 sure that you're getting your core 1613 rotating through enough to bring this back 1614 to square.

You could be adding a little 1615 bit of push from here, from your trail hip 1616 towards the golf ball, which is pushing 1617 your lead arm and hand out this way.

And 1618 so you're hitting that little bit of push.

1619 And the reason I say that is because of 1620 your next one, is because you say that you 1621 tend to pull the other ones.

Well, if you 1622 start to make your iron swing and you're 1623 starting to come down and you start adding 1624 some early extension right here, the 1625 tendency can be that you add early 1626 extension, you leave this face open.

but 1627 it can also be where you kind of get this 1628 underneath hand action.

So to me, it's 1629 still, what I say earlier, 1630 it's probably going to be push of some 1631 sort, but I would think that you're 1632 probably pushing with your trail hip 1633 towards the ball a little bit.

1634 Let's see.

1635 Still slightly over the top.

Should I feel 1636 a slight pause in the right shoulder drop 1637 at the top to help?

While you're training, 1638 you can do that.

1639 You know, you can make your goat 1640 backswing, let this trail shoulder rise 1641 and then let it drop, you know, and just 1642 kind of get that feeling of making that 1643 transition.

But if you're struggling with 1644 over the top, I think in the second 1645 session or first session, 1646 live a little bit how the other people 1647 live for a second.

Same thing I told the 1648 players when we were doing Axiom.

If you 1649 struggle with getting this.

Live with some 1650 drop kicks for a little bit.

Take the 1651 magic of supination video and get out 1652 there and make some big ones.

Make some 1653 large clockwise motions.

Get out of being 1654 over the top.

Now you can get up here and 1655 you can feel doing this.

I have zero 1656 problem with that.

You can train that.

But 1657 make some motions where you're 1658 exaggerating it a little bit.

I guarantee 1659 you the first couple of times you do it, 1660 you're going to feel like you make this 1661 big whirly bird.

1662 But when you look at it on film, you're 1663 going to be like, 1664 well, it felt like a big whirly bird, but 1665 I barely did it, especially if you're so 1666 used to being over the top.

1667 Daryl, thanks, Craig.

Your classes are 1668 what I wait for.

1669 Daryl, you got to have better expectations 1670 than that in life.

1671 Come on, my friend.

I truly appreciate 1672 that.

But life is.

Come on.

1673 I'm new.

What app do you use here to video 1674 our swings and how can we send them in?

1675 Most people, Jim, use just whatever their 1676 camera is on their iPhone.

1677 And then you just upload it to the Swing 1678 Review Portal.

1679 But most people just use that.

If you want 1680 to use any particular app, I use Swing 1681 Catalyst, 1682 Coach's Eye, V1, OnForm.

Those are a 1683 couple good ones out there if you're 1684 looking to draw lines and stuff.

1685 Do you feel like wrist rotation happens 1686 before or after impact?

1687 Wrist rotation in relation to what?

1688 If you're meaning like the squaring of the 1689 club?

1690 If I'm right here and I'm deviating, I'm 1691 going to feel my release doesn't feel like 1692 a big crossover, but I feel that little 1693 bit of squaring up right here.

Just the 1694 tiniest bit.

It's not very big in a trail 1695 side pattern.

1696 You're going to see it, and maybe that's a 1697 better way of answering your question.

1698 You're going to see it a heck of a lot 1699 more on that side of the equation, but it 1700 has to happen a little bit sooner.

You've 1701 got to get that club square.

1702 Thank you, Mitchell.

I appreciate it.

1703 Steve, thank you, thank you.

1704 All right, I'm going to take this last one 1705 for Lee, and then I'm going to get out of 1706 Dodge.

1707 I think I was under the impression that 1708 the right shoulder could not turn any 1709 through the release, which is probably 1710 where the pain came from, as I think you 1711 alluded to.

So after the right hip, right 1712 shoulder, you can use the right arm, 1713 right?

What do you mean by use the right 1714 arm?

1715 Like, I don't want you to think like using 1716 the right arm, like you can sit here and 1717 manually.

1718 I mean, technically, if you get a lot of 1719 lateral motion, you can kind of guide it a 1720 little bit with your trail arm this way if 1721 you're putting a lot of.

uh onus on 1722 trying to hit it straight and taking away 1723 power but as you're working from here to 1724 here think about the pattern and maybe j 1725 release is the easiest way to see it as 1726 i'm going from here and this is squaring 1727 my arm i'm not staying like this at some 1728 point in time this has to widen so my arm 1729 if i'm throwing from here and i start to 1730 throw from the top 1731 My arm is going to get longer right here.

1732 It's not bent like this for still having 1733 the flexion that I have with the 90 1734 degrees here.

1735 All right.

1736 Well, that's it for tonight.

That was the 1737 last question.

Nick, thank you, thank you.

1738 David, 1739 thank you.

David again, thank you.

That 1740 was very informative.

I appreciate it.

1741 I hope it was.

1742 Felt like a couple of questions were 1743 helpful.

1744 But with that said, 1745 Thank you.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

1746 Thank you for stopping by.

1747 If you have any further ones, go to the 1748 community.

Put them up there.

I will do 1749 them.

We got the rest of the month to do 1750 this together.

1751 Let's make the last three sessions 1752 awesome.

All right.

1753 So thank you again.

Enjoy your evening.

1754 We'll get the replay up as soon as we can.

1755 And I will see you all next Wednesday.

1756 Hey, Steve, no problem.

I appreciate it.

1757 Good to hear from you, my friend.

1758 Stanley, no problem.

1759 Thank you.