Knuckles Down - Logo Down

The typical amateur golfer has no idea how to control the trajectory of the golf ball. They hit weak, high floating golf shots that get beat up by the wind and make it harder to control distance. In this video I reveal the SECRETS of how to hit low penetrating missiles with any club in the bag.

  • Left hand position controls most aspects of ball flight - shot direction, shape, trajectory, etc.
  • Left knuckles roll down into impact
  • The logo of the glove feels like it's pointing down at the ground at impact - the left wrist is slightly arched
  • To hit a higher shot, the logo should feel like it points at the target
  • Let the wrist go slightly to the right for a fade, rotate a little more for a draw

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William
What's the advantage of turning a 7 iron into a 3 iron rather than just hitting a 3 iron?
May 10, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. When delofting the club you can be more aggressive. You can produce optimal spin/launch for the given shot. Delofting a 7 into a 6 or 5 still gives you great launch and needed spin for the shot (to hold green, etc.) Shorter swing with 3 iron for the same yardage would be a lower flight and spin making it difficult to hold the green.
May 10, 2021
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William
Sounds like it would take a pretty advanced player to choose whether to turn a 7 into a 6, a 5 or even down to a 3 iron. I'm afraid all I can do is dream of becoming that good. Thank you for the explanation.
May 10, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. Doesn't take much. I wouldn't recommend turning it into a 3 iron for most occasions. Just a few degrees of bow to deloft the club. No need to get excessive.
May 11, 2021
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Jeff
I have been practicing this move and it seems to be bringing back tension in lead wrist and hand when you execute this rotation. Also when exactly does this take place after you release during or before.
April 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jeff. It will start when you begin releasing. A little more tension is normal in the beginning. But, I would like for you to soften the wrists as much as possible once you understand how to do it. Take a look at Fix Your Release.
April 28, 2020
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Jeff
Craig i received to emails about 1.5 hours apart saying i had a reply. i only see the first response please advise.
April 28, 2020
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Jeff
Hi Craig, Yes i have and just did again looked at this video and it indeed helps a lot. Where i need assistance is after release/rotation,Chris says you should see finger nails and the Knuckles video Chuck says you should see your knuckles. Now if it is the knuckles closest to the fingertips than they are saying the same thing. But I believe Chuck is saying the knuckles in the middle of your fingers? I am obviously only talking about the last 3 fingers in lead hand.
April 28, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jeff. Not sure where the other reply is, but I will put here. You want to see almost all the way to the middle knuckles. You should be able to see the ones closest to the fingernails. This is a slight more exaggeration.
April 28, 2020
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Kevin
Hi Craig - I watched the video you told me about and also a similar roadshow video where Chuck talks about pulling the hands down with the weight shift (similar to the down cock move) because the arms have to travel so much further than the hips. When I practice this I find it much easier to get my chest and shoulders closed. I am a little confused though on how we say “let the arms get pulled down with weight shift” and “let the arms fall” vs this very deliberate pull down move? I feel before my arms were being left behind without this more deliberate pull down move discussed in the roadshow https://youtu.be/tTSksUX2ayM
November 26, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. The downswing will be a blend of pull/gravity. Some players yank the club down needing to feel far less arms/hands. Others restrict the arms and don’t allow for the pull/gravity. You may need to feel a little pull because you are leaving the arms behind. That is player dependent.
November 26, 2019
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Kevin
Hi Craig - in my last review you mentioned how I need have my hands drop more in front of my chest while keeping it shut. I hear a lot on TV about shallowing out the shaft and closing the face with a bowed wrist as well during this point. Trying to understand the difference between that and this vertical drop (steeper) move you describe?
November 19, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. Some players will need to start rotating the club more in front to shy away from getting too far underneath the plane - like me (Trace the Plane Line Video). Others need to start focusing on arms and hands doing less to get the club to shallow out more - like Tom (https://youtu.be/gR0AO8KXYdw?t=2044) . It all depends on what a player tends to do with push vs pull, how the change the pitch of the shaft, and rotation of the face into the strike.
November 19, 2019
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Kevin
Wanted to submit one more picture to show the in to out path and open club face with the driver to add to the previous comment
August 9, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. The trail foot is pushing a little too much. And, the trail arm is over working. You look like you quit with the lead and the trail is starting to throw the club out to right field. Getting more into a trail hand pro flip instead of the lead continuing to pull and the face rotation happening more on it's own. Throwing the club head early.
August 9, 2019
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Kevin
I’m experiencing some toe contact (especially with the driver) due to my club face being open. My wrist appears cupped at the top. Should I work to improve that position at the top (more now) or close the face down better with my release as mentioned in this video?
August 9, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. I wouldn't worry about the cupping too much. The hands are still getting behind the chest. Your hands should be over the trail shoulder at this position. Perform a 5 Min to Perfect Backswing Drill and compare to this position. You will see the difference.
August 9, 2019
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Alistair
When I concentrate on having knuckles down, it seems to create a controlled shot with swing velocity dominated by how fast I can rotate my torso. Ie. When I focus on knuckles down it seems to slow or inhibit lag release.
April 16, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alastair. It sounds like you might be de-lofting with the wrist, but holding off at the same time requiring torso spin for power. I would ease up on how much bow you are trying to add and shoot for more of a flat lead wrist. See if that helps with proper rotation.
April 17, 2019
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Nolan
Also, I seem to be hitting a lot of hooks when I focus on getting the knuckles down. Any changes in my set up that I should do?
January 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nolan. The hooks sound like steerage to me. I think you are overly controlling the face. Slight bow and knuckles down. Not a quick flip with the knuckles down.
January 10, 2019
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Nolan
I’ve been working on this with the 9-3 drill and have started developing some left wrist pain (if you know anatomy, it seems to be the triangular fibrocartilage complex). Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
January 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nolan. Sounds like you are overdoing the bowing and getting into a major bow while in full ulnar deviation. I would back down a little from the move and allow the wrist/club to release a little freer. Use the Moving the Fulcrum Video and Flip vs Release to make the move more gradual, soft and feeling like it is pivoting properly from the lead shoulder socket.
January 10, 2019
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Lyndon
I been working on this for a couple of days. I thought I was doing it right but was actually flipping. I do try and grip with my last three fingers and roll my knuckles down and I get to impact position. Is it common that immediately after hitting a bucket of balls, I feel my inside of my forearm is a little sore along with my wrist from the Bowing .....would that be a common thing after you first start rolling your knuckles down in your swing? I felt like I was getting through the ball better and hitting a little further without trying but just a little sore immediately following range time.
January 7, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Lyndon. That seems on par. You are more than likely using new muscles. Training the lead hand to release properly may create some soreness in the beginning.
January 8, 2019
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Marc
When I do this, the ball feels compressed but flight is incredibly low, not just a couple clubs lower. Any reason for this?
November 16, 2018
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Chuck (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Marc, you've just overdone it a tad. So, this means you've got it, just tone it down a little to achieve the trajectory you're looking for.
November 17, 2018
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Aaron
Somehow by user error I have imputed that I have done over 200k of this frill. I should be at roughly 760ish. Can we have this adjusted?
September 25, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Aaron. I'm sorry about the error. Please contact customer support. They should be able to correct the issue.
September 26, 2018
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Frank
Love this video and see big difference in my contact. However I really struggle with directional control: push right or hook left. What drills do you suggest to help train the left wrist to control direction with knuckles down?
September 20, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frank. Take a look at the 9 Days to Amazing Ball Striking Section. You can work on the knuckles down flight control and direction. Low with Draw, or Fade.
September 20, 2018
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Frank
Trying to understand difference between knuckles down and square early video. Is the the bowing of the wrist while squaring the difference? The knuckles down has two moves: squaring AND bowing?
August 23, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frank. Knuckles/Bowing is controlling more the loft of the face into the shot. Square the Face Early is trying to get you to allow for the rotation to keep the face from being too open.
August 23, 2019
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Cy
Just want to take this opportunity to thank you for these reminder videos. They have meant a lot to me and for my game. In the past, I have tried to follow many instructors, but you have been the one to provide the basic information to help me rather than teach me how I should try and emulate what you do. Keep doing these video reminders to help us remember the points that we may have missed or forgotten. I have always said that not that I do not know how, I just don't do it!
August 12, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Cy. Thank you for the post. We appreciate your positive comments and will continue to send out those friendly reminders.
August 13, 2018
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Hector
This function with the woods , driver and hybrids
December 7, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. The knuckles down is more of an iron type move. With the driver, you wont want as much bow.
December 7, 2017
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Frank
How about 3 wood and longer hybrids?
July 22, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frank. Flat lead wrist will suffice. Unless you want a stinger to shot. But, that would start to hurt overall distance with those.
July 22, 2019
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Kevin
Working on this combined with left elbow toward the target at impact is causing me to lower the toe of the club so the toe end of the divot is deeper. I am not hitting hooks, but it doesn't seem like contact is optimal. Any suggestions?
October 11, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kevin. Take a look at the Moving the Fulcrum Video and Flip vs Release. Sounds like some tension in the shoulder joint and trying to speed up the hands at the last second.
October 11, 2017
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Martin L
This has been working well for me especially after seeing the recent shot shaping videos. Any suggestions of exercises to strengthen my left wrist and forearm for golf?
September 13, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Martin L. Plenty of lead arm only practice will get that lead forearm/wrist built enough for golf. However, plenty of the typical forearm exercises on the web will be sufficient.
September 13, 2017
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Hector
this is easy to say it than to do it. I have been trying to do this for months without success. any suggestion ? any help ?
June 30, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. I've seen you do this. You just get really tense. Decent grip pressure, soft wrist and slow down. Make the smallest movements possible to get the feel back. Even if its only 10 yard shots. Also, practicing lead arm only chipping can help for the feeling as well (for impact).
July 1, 2017
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Hector
to do that it is really difficult, logo down or bow wrist at impact it is almost impossible for me, any suggestion? any drill ?
April 26, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. Take a look at Fix Your Release. Try the drill Chris talks about with seeing a "hole" through your hand.
April 26, 2017
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Colin
If my ball position is correct can I always attempt to hit the ball with a bowed (arched) wrist and should my wrist be bowed at the top of the backswing to shallow out the club?
April 11, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Colin. You can always add more or take away more bow depending on the ball flight characteristics you are looking for. At the top, the lead wrist should be flat and not bowed (Using the Wrist Effectively and Efficiently).
April 11, 2017
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Jay
I've read many of the questions and responses and noted that many members are having a problem with the face closing when trying to bow the wrist for lower ball flight. My contact has improved tremendously over the past six months or so and is directly related to Chuck's video, so I hope what has helped my game can help others. I'm sad to say that for many years (due to poor instruction) I misunderstood the most effective way to rotate my lead forearm. Coming into contact, I would use the large muscles just below my elbow. While this feels powerful it can lead to all types of disasters.....and yes, over-rotation resulting in a shut club face is one. Further this results in the lead elbow turning down prematurely resulting in leading arm collapse. I would often actually feel the inside of my elbow slapping into my left side. From this condition follow through extension is impossible. I did two things to correct this problem. First, I made certain that at address my arm was connected higher and slightly on top of my pec. I also felt this position was pretty much maintained through contact. Secondly, and most importantly while keeping my arms and wrists relaxed I now feel that forearm rotation originates from my wrists and hands from my wrists and hands. This allows me to bow my wrist very late in the down swing to whatever extent my shot calls for. Two keys: an extremely light grip and an absolutely neutral grip. I now feel that I simply allow my hands to get into proper impact position and let the club itself maximize speed. I now am surprised when my ball flight heads left. Invariably it's a result of not taking care to square my grip at set-up. I think this is the effortless swing that Chuck often refers to.
April 9, 2017
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Frank
Great comments! Your ideas really helped me put the knuckle down idea to work without large pulls and hooks left. I really needed a more neutral grip and light grip! Thanks for the suggestions. I love the results.
August 15, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jay. Thanks for the post. Your comments could definitely help out some of our players.
April 10, 2017
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jim
How do you stop from having the club really shut at impact; when i rotate down it has the club really closed at impact?
April 9, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. You may be over doing the move. Adding more rotation, than lead wrist bow. It's still a gradual move (Flip vs Release). Go to the 5 Minutes to the Perfect Release. Practice impact, then some slight bow and allow for rotation.
April 10, 2017
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Scott
Surely focusing on hand and knuckles breaks down the concept of centrifugal forces and allowing the arms and hands swing freely from a central point ? Chucks pole with a swinging weight at the end does not break down with a delayed hinge i.e. holding club head back and off ? Scott
April 9, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Scott. The hands and arms will still freely swing you are only softening the wrist to allow some more bow effect to de-loft the club. If you held off that would delay the release. You still want to release the club, but all for the de-lofting. Think of Day 4 Video (9 Days to Amazing Ball Striking Section). But, releasing some tension to allow more gradual release of the face through.
April 10, 2017
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Scott
Thanks Craig ..will give it a go
April 10, 2017
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Shane
When do u start rotating the knuckes down from top of the down swing or when?
March 20, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Shane. It depends on your swing and the intentions for the shot. But, as you start to enter the trail thigh is when the majority of knuckles down will take place.
March 21, 2017
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Rong
Why would we want to de-loft a club this way instead of taking a lower loft club?
December 15, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rong. Remember the Tiger Stinger? When Tiger would use a 2 Iron off the tee, but flight it very low and almost hit it as far as his 3 wood. This method above is a great way at squeezing a little more yardage out of a club with lower ball flight. Giving you more of a penetrating flight in the wind. You most certainly can take more club. This is just an another way of controlling ball flight.
December 16, 2016
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jeff
I'm guessing that for a driver swing, we want to have the same movement with the left hand, except that we will be hitting the ball a little bit further along in the swing, slightly on the upswing. But still with the left hand controlling the face of the club glove logo down, but coming up. Correct? Thanks, Jeff
October 12, 2016
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Micah (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Jeff. This is essentially what is happening to a small degree. I wouldn't really have a the thought of this because it could make you prone to trying to assist the club to start its way up in the swing. The ball placement is forward of our stock shot ball position just for that reason. So we can swing normally and catch the ball on the up swing naturally.
October 13, 2016
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Tom
Hi Craig, When I try to roll my 3 fingers on my left hand down (I'm working on getting more of a penetrating flight with my wedges as I mentioned in my swing review.) my club face tents to close and I pull everything left. What am I doing wrong? Too much right side of too much lower body? Thanks again!
August 3, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. 2 Possible Scenarios. 1) Trail side push - Make sure you aren't spinning the shoulders open or pushing trail arm. 2) Not maintaing proper lead arm alignment. Curing Elbow Pain and Left Elbow Position Impact Video.
August 4, 2016
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William
This is a fantastic video that I'd completely forgotten about seeing and I think should be emphasised throughout the whole RST teaching process. Being a long time 'flipper', this is just the best way of understanding and overcoming the most difficult problem many golfers have in their game...! Thanks! William
June 26, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. Thanks for the post. This definitely is the anti-flipper move.
June 27, 2016
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Andrew
Do we deloft every club like this? It seems to work fine with wedge through six or seven iron, but is much more difficult with a five iron through three.
May 24, 2016
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
You may be taking in the hitting area too much lag and delofting the club too much. How are your 9 to 3 swings with the long irons looking? Ball flight good and tight? How much forward shaft lean are you seeing with these clubs???
May 25, 2016
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Konstantin
Why don't you start the golf swing in a stance similar to impact position? Wouldn't it be easier to find the same position during down swing? (Just interested. I did the 'square to square' method before and it was easier to hit the ball when the start position was similar to impact position.)
May 20, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Konstantin. If you started at impact you would take away the dynamics of the impact position. Address is static and impact is dynamic. You don't want your impact position returning back to a set static position. Also, there would start to be a whole lot of head movement.
May 20, 2016
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Konstantin
Thank you Craig. I didn't mean exact impact position at start but something similar that we can see with the penetrating wedge shots (https://rotaryswing.com/videos/short-game/wedge-play/penetrating-wedge-shots). For example the club is tilted towards the target, the weight is on the lead leg at start... Although I might not do it properly I enjoy this shot from lob wedge (59 degree) to pitching wedge. I honestly wouldn't mind to hit longer irons like this. Actually, I used to do a similar shot with my 2 iron (bought in a set of second hand clubs...) I feel that STS was pretty similar to this wedge shot. So with penetrating wedge shot the initial stance and club position is much more similar to the impact position and I do not feel lot of head movement or lost dynamics.
May 23, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Konstantin. With the longer clubs head movement and weight shift would still kinda worry me a little. Shorter clubs no problem. For older players with restricted mobility it may be an option. But, you have too many good things in your swing. I think this method would limit a little of your potential.
May 23, 2016
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Konstantin
Thank you, Craig! I do not want to go back to my old swing; I love my new one! I am purely interested.
May 23, 2016
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Virgil
With a driver and 3 wood, should can the lead wrist be "flat"? The only other alternatives would be cupped, which assumed is not a good impact position and bowed which would severely de-loft the face. Is the goal at impact is for the hands to slightly be ahead of the club head, assuming a "stock driver" set-up?
February 22, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Virgil. For stock 3WD and Driver the lead wrist will be flat. Take a look at the Driver Launch Angle Video for more info on ball position and how to maximize the delivery of the club head.
February 22, 2016
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Mike
Hey guys. I've been struggling with this also where any time I really compressed the ball I had a really shut face and hit big draw or pull-draw. Hit it a mile but way left. I finally think I figured out the culprit: I was coming into impact with my wrist neutral from the standpoint of the hinge. In other words it was like I was just reaching out to shake hands. When I focused on hinging left wrist down more at Impact WOW, all of a sudden compression with straight ball flight and lower trajectory. So to get knuckles down with a square face (vs closed) I had to really focus on letting wrists unhinge all the way at impact instead of just returning to setup position. Does this sound right?
January 19, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mike. That sounds like you are moving in the proper direction. Address (Setup) and Impact Position are 2 completely different animals.
January 20, 2016
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Marc
Hi Craig, which videos would you recommend that talk about the rotation of the lead hand / wrist from the top of the downswing. Best, Marc
January 12, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marc. The Square the Face, LADD, Trace the Plane Line and The Big Picture (more about lead arm). These all pertain to from the top. Not necessarily impact.
January 12, 2016
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Patrick
Hey Craig, I can't find the Square the Face video. Link?
April 1, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Patrick. I apologize. The video title has been changed since that post. Squaring the Club Face.
April 2, 2017
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Jim
what is the role of the left hand in chipping and pitching?
August 22, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jim. The left hand (right handed player) will still be the so called driver of your car. For chipping it will stay ahead in the strike for the proper blow and limit a little of the face rotation.
August 24, 2015
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Ryan
What is the best thing to focus on or feel with your lead hand and knuckles when you want to hit a high shot with your driver or long irons?
August 22, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ryan. Take a look at the 9 Days to Amazing Ball Striking Section to learn controlling your trajectory up and down.
August 24, 2015
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Evan
Do you do this with the driver?
July 15, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Evan. I definitely don't want you to start adding massive cupping to the driver. But, it is unnecessary to add a lot of bow/turn down with the driver.
July 15, 2015
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John
I know that good players have a flat left wrist at impact, but I don't understand this drill. If I try and turn my knuckles down, I'm going to have a dramatically closed club face. Dynamically, what else is going on between the set up or address when the club face is square and the left wrist is cupped and impact? That is what happens dynamically to keep the club face from being shut?
June 22, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. This drill is to really de-loft the face coming through impact while still releasing the club. The knuckles down or bow will keep the face from being shut. Just as you described the dynamic from address to impact. Slightly cupped to bowed. If your face is shutting you might be over doing the wrist turn or flipping. Take a look at Exaggerated Hands Ahead in the Advanced Downswing Section to learn more on the bow.
June 22, 2015
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Robert
OK, I'm still getting stuck here. At address, with my clubface pointing at the target, the logo of the my glove is mostly pointing away from body, slightly towards the target. But if I focus on logo pointing towards the ground "logo down" at impact, my clubface is way strong pointing to the left of the target. If I focus on squaring up clubface at impact, then the logo is back to pointing away from my body, again towards the target but definitely not towards the ground. Is my grip screwed up? what am I missing?
June 16, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. It could be a grip issue. But, the main thing I see from your swing is the lead wrist doesn't bow. Don't think so much rotation right now, but the lead wrist bowing into the release.
June 16, 2015
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Frank
After doing this drill many days I improved my play but also developed serious soreness in back of left hand. I am right handed. The soreness is serious and limits my play. Is there some move/ position I need to avoid? Are there stretches or strengthening exercises to prevent the soreness?
May 24, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frank. You are using new muscles in your swing and it sounds like you over did it a little. Try and soften up a little in the hands. I don't think you are doing too much improper. Anything forearm related strengthening wise should alleviate some stress.
May 25, 2015
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rodney
AS we begin to square clubface is it the proximal knuckles we want to face the ground? Hands kinda feel low coming into impact and at impact the snap of the left wrist or (vijay taper picot point) incorporated with the straightening of left leg. These feels sound correct in what I'm feeling?
May 19, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Rodney. Sounds good to me.
May 20, 2015
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Stephen
Hi Craig, chuck also states about seeing the left hand lead knuckles, does he mean the distal knuckles?
May 11, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. Yes.
May 11, 2015
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Stephen
Hi Craig, im performing this drill slowly at first like chuck says in this video. However, when I let my knuckles roll down the club face points to the left of the target. I also feel that I have to exagerate shaft lean past my lead leg to get the club face square to target and my lead hand flat or bowed at the same time. What am I doing wrong? is there a drill to fix this problem?
May 11, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Stephen. The excessive lean is actually a good thing for you with what we are training. That will help it be square and not turnover too quickly. You might be flipping the arm. Take a look at the Left Arm Impact Alignments Video in the Downswing Section.
May 11, 2015
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Stephen
Sorry Craig, do you mean left elbow impact video? As I can t ring one for left arm impact alignments. Thanks Stephen
May 11, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Yes. My apologies.
May 11, 2015
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Stephen
It looks as if it might be my elbow not pointing down the target. Should I perform the LADD drill to prevent this?
May 11, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Yes. The LADD will help. But, this should keep that face from being too closed.
May 11, 2015
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Stephen
Thanks
May 11, 2015
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Stephen
Thanks for speedy reply. Stephen
May 11, 2015
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Terry
As I will typically do, I watch some of the videos a number of times to pick up on things I missed previously. In this video, the last time I watched it something clicked for me. That was the bowing of the left wrist at impact. To get the bow, you have to get the knuckles down. Everything about lag fell into place. I work each night on the impact bag going thru the steps to improve lag and this revelation enabled me to properly execute all the lag drills. By bowing the left hand, it pulls the right hand into the right position. I've been working at the range and have been able to improve on my distance. As an example I typically hit my lob wedge in a full swing around 75 yards - yesterday I hit it from 95-100 yds. Same with the pitching wedge - used to be 130 yd max- yesterday it was carrying around 145. The ball flight is lower and is now typically on line as opposed to the pull I did consistently. Still working thru all the clubs so that I can hit them when the situation dictates it on the course. This is where I expected to be at this time. My swing has been altered dramatically from setup to followthru and my playing partners have commented on it. One other comment - I'm sold on this approach- the last video showing the truck pulling a cart is the theory that got my attention. I know I have a ways to go but now I know I have a consistent source for any explanation of the swing problems that I have. Thanks Terry
May 5, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Terry. Thank you for the post! I'm glad to hear the game is getting better. Love the low flighted wedges. Keep it up.
May 5, 2015
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Terry
As I work thru this process, I find my ball flight is lower but ends up in a slight pull with some draw spin added in. What am I doing wrong?
April 21, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Terry. You could be shutting down the face or a little steep. Make sure you shallow out properly in the beginning (Ladd Video - Downswing Section). Also, work on the Impact Portion if the 5 Minutes to the Perfect Release in the Downswing Section. Make sure you can get the face square.
April 21, 2015
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Terry
Is this the same approach to use when hitting a driver?
April 21, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Terry. You typically don't need to hit a stinger Driver. The wrist still rotates, but you wont need as much bowing/lean. The driver will be more a stock release.
April 21, 2015
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Nguyen
Hi Do we need to see all the 6 knuckles of the three last fingers or just the three one close to the nails?
April 7, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Nguyen. You will see the ones closest to the nails and just a little bit of the other 3.
April 7, 2015
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Robert
I'm having a mental block on this drill. It feels like if I turn my left wrist to get the back of my hand pointing down and I can see my knuckles that my clubface is way strong, pointing to the left of the target. i guess i'm rotating my left hand too much. but if i don't rotate that much, the logo is pointing to the target and i can't see my knuckles. what am i doing wrong?
March 3, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. This is what it feels like to have the knuckles turning and bowing down at impact. At pace there won't be as much of a shut club face. Put more emphasis on bowing the lead wrist versus the face rotation.
March 3, 2015
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Robert
Thank you, Craig! that makes sense...
March 3, 2015
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David
I read the comment that the the Logo Down concept is mainly aimed at the irons rather than also with the woods. Is it like a standard procedure to be applied all the time with all full iron shots including up to a 56 degree wedge?
October 30, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
David, You want to do this with every club, except for the driver. You don't do it much with the fairway woods but you still do it a little bit. Getting the logo of the glove down allows for forward shaft lean which allows us to hit a steeper angle of attack which allows for a low, penetrating shot, compressed shot that will spin and hold the green. With the driver, you want to hit with a shallow, ascending blow to get the least amount of spin and a high launch. R.J.
October 30, 2014
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Bengt
Exactly when should i set my left hand in knuckles down mode, preset it when i am at the top or gradually in the downswing? Thanks.
October 25, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
You should feel like you are actively doing it as your hands pass your right thigh, in all actuality, it will gradually happen as your arms move into position. R.J.
October 25, 2014
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Fred
When I work on keeping the knuckles down the ball goes low and left. I understand the low part since I'm de-lofting the club. The left part is the problem. Do my hands need to be further ahead at impact, and if so, how far in front of the left thigh. Thanks.
September 7, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Frederick. You might be losing your elbow position and/or over rotating. I would focus on the maintaining the Left Elbow Position at Impact (Advanced Downswing Section). And, the 5 Mins to the Perfect Release in the Downswing Section to focus on bowed, but square face and wrist at impact.
September 7, 2014
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Jim
I hit my fairway woods very low I hit them pretty solid and relatively straight but low. I'm reluctant to play them when I have to carry water. Help.
July 21, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Jim. Typically to low of a 3 wood is from ball position and trying to hit it higher. Make sure the ball isn't too far forward. Left Ear. Hit down on it. Down to go up. Make sure you aren't adding too much secondary axis tilt and catching it off the bottom of the face by it being too forward.
July 21, 2014
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David
i think Chuck got off topic during his explanation How do i practice bowing my left wrist? i feel as though it is not bowed enough?
July 10, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey David. The logo of the glove will feel like it's pointing down at the ground at impact (the left wrist is slightly arched). You can also take a look at the Day 4: Low Trajectory Shots Video in the 9 Days to Amazing Ball Striking (Bonus Series) for real control of the left hand and hitting it low.
July 10, 2014
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anthony
Good video but no matter what I try to do, the ball still flies quite high. Wonder if it is more the swing or the shafts or something else. But I simply can not fit the ball low. See some friends doing this right but can't see to do it myself. Any thoughts?
July 10, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Anthony. It could be an issue with clubs, or not de-lofting it enough. Take a look at the Day 4: Low Trajectory Shots Video in the 9 Days to Amazing Ball Striking Section (Under Bonus Series). Try some excessive hands forward and shaft lean. That should flight the ball a little lower for you.
July 10, 2014
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john
Do you have that same feeling with a driver or three wood?
June 3, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
This is more for controlling the trajectory and de-lofting of irons. If you would like to hit a stinger with the woods, this drill will help attain that. Nevertheless, you wouldn't be maximizing launch angle with the woods.
June 4, 2014
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michael
My biggest problem is my grip pressure . I completely understand what you discussed here and when I was at my dad's member guest in Naples I hit the ball so pure. Now I get home and I lost it. what I felt when I was down there was that my arms were floating in my swing and my lower body was stable. So my question to you is how relaxed should my arms be and grip pressure from the beginning of swing and through the entire swing. I was basically in a relaxed state in Fl and wasn't thinking of anything but turning the shoulder blade back . I am a 3 handicap and I felt like I did when I was 25. I'm now 48. So if you could help me out with the feeling I should have over the ball with regards to arms and hands pressure from start to finish. I felt in Florida like my arms were spaghetti. Thanks
May 7, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
You want the hands and the arms to be as relaxed as possible at the address position. On a scale from 1-10 (ten being the firmest) you are looking to be at about a 3. Keep in mind that grip pressure regardless of how much you will try to keep it relaxed in the hitting area will increase by 80% or more. Try to keep the wrists and hands as passive as possible all the way through the backswing. You will get the feeling back when you learn how to keep it relaxed up to the top and in transition. Hope that helps get you back on track to pure striking.
May 7, 2014

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