Golf Grip's Effect on Lag

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As you've no doubt seen, my golf students have been picking up some serious distance through my unique driver fittings that combine instruction and technology to help golfers gain 30+ yards in one session. One of the things that gets attention during these sessions is the grip and how it affectes that amount of lag the student has in the downswing as well as the tension level during the transition. In this video, I discuss some of the key points about the left hand grip and how it affects lag and tension. It is critical to understand the biomechanics of the wrist joint and the bone structure allows you to create leverage for maximum power with minimal effort.

  • In a weak grip, the V of left thumb & forefinger points off to the left
  • A strong grip, with the thumb over the center line of the club, helps preserve lag
  • Hold a club 90° to the ground to feel the difference - it is easy to hold the angle with a strong grip - the meaty part of your hand sits on top of the club
  • Allow your hands to go very soft at the top of the swing to allow for downcock, which creates lag
  • It may take a few weeks to become comfortable with a new grip, but downcock plus a proper grip will increase your driver distance

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Jesse
Craig, which video is it where Chuck swings with the lead arm only, then says to swing from the trail arm only to get the feel of it from both sides?
April 7, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jesse. Old, or New? Reshaping Your Swing for Lag, Tape Drill, How Swing Speed Affects Compression, etc. I can add more if these aren't the one you are trying to find.
April 8, 2021
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Jesse
Thanks! I think it was old, but let me check these out and see if it is one of these. It started out by using only the lead arm, and then doing the same one-arm drill with the trail arm, but I can't remember the drills that came after that. BTW, yesterday I was letting my trail arm come off at point of impact as a pre-shot routine, and it really helped me with the actual swing.
April 8, 2021
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jesse. No problem letting that trail go. I used to hit balls that way.
April 8, 2021
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Chuck showes this 90 degree position with the driver to check the right driver grip. Would this also be an option for an iron? Thanks for helping!
October 17, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcel. Yes, you can check there. But, the lead wrist flatness/cupping may vary a little depending on the strength of the grip.
October 17, 2019
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M. (Certified RST Instructor)
Thank you Graig! Am I correct if I say that, no mather if wrist is flat or little cupped, the face must be in line with flat or cupped in that 90 degree position?
October 18, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marcel. The lead wrist will typically mimic the club head positioning when referencing it for open, square and shut. Overly cupped the face will tend to be open, and bowed it will tend to be shut.
October 18, 2019
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Ron
I'm trying to understand the sequencing of what happens with the lead wrist. It's slightly cupped at address, flat at the top, cupped again when the lead arm is parallel in the downswing and flat at impact. Is that right?
October 15, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ron. It will only cup for excessive lag in the downswing. However, most players don't need that. The lead wrist will go from cupped -- flat -- bowed. You can have plenty of lag with a flat lead. Cupping would be for monster lag, but it will have some limitations.
October 15, 2019
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Robert
the video talks about using a strong grip with the driver ,does the same apply to Irons.
May 10, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. Preferred is slightly stronger than neutral with all clubs. This is for the player that wants a lot of lag. If you are striving for that much then yes it would need to be stronger for the irons as it is above.
May 11, 2019
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Timo
Great videos, but the loudness is always different in every video. Can you do something about it?
April 7, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Timo. Thank you for the compliment. Unfortunately, we can't adjust some of the older videos. But, all the new content has corrected the issues. Apologize for the inconvenience.
April 7, 2019
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richard
using the mirror, I notice my backswing with my irons is only less than 90 degrees I don't see my right shoulder getting to a full turn do I need that much shoulder turn, I can turn fully standing straight up, relaxing my shoulder blades but when I get into full posture shift my weight and pull my right shoulder back I don't get what chuck gets ,actually feel some tension if I push it further
October 26, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. Ideally, getting a 90 degree shoulder turn would be best. You may have a slight flexibility issue where you need to allow for a little more hip turn to reach said position. Work on Play the Best Golf Of Your Life in 6 Weeks Video 1 of 6.
October 26, 2018
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richard
so what i gather, the soft hands allows the club to drop, its the transition of the downswing, but still initial movement caused by the beginnings of weight shift
October 25, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. Exactly. Soft arms/hands being brought down by initial weight transfer to the lead side.
October 25, 2018
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wolfgang
Hi, this confuses me a bit. As I understand, you are suggesting a stronger grip with the left hand leading to a cupped position of the wrist. However, you have been stressing on various occasions the importance of a flat left wrist at the top of the backswing. This sounds like a contradiction to me. Or are you suggesting to amend the position of the left wrist from a flat position at the top of the backswing to more of a cupped position during the downswing? Wolfgang
November 21, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Wolfgang. The drill above is for players that have a sole purpose of gaining lots of lag and speed. However, that will come at a cost for ball striking control. Some of our students just want to learn how to hit it far without worrying about the consequence of direction. If you strengthen your grip to a certain degree it will have to be slightly cupped at the top. But, with the stronger grip and more lag you are getting into a somewhat law of diminishing returns with other items.
November 21, 2017
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Alan
But that doesn't answer Wolfgang's question. You have me trying to get a flat wrist at the top also Craig, and your response to the question seems to be "if you want to hit the ball far, cup the wrist", but "if you want control, keep the left wrist flat". I thought the outcome of RST is hitting the ball farther with a lot more control. Now I don't know what to work on, flat left wrist at the top or cupped wrist at the delivery position. But I don't think RST has ever put forth the notion that these outcomes are mutually exclusive. Chuck says here in order to maintain lag, the left hand needs to be on top of the club just before delivery which looks to be a cupped wrist. I guess my question is how much lag can I get with a straight left wrist at the top? I guess want both. Effortless power and pinpoint accuracy. Any insight would be appreciated.
October 14, 2018
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Alan. If you want to hit the ball far with control. Work towards a flat lead wrist. The issue is you may have a stronger grip allowing for a sharper angle coming down due to the cupping. But, the issue is you really don't need that much lag. With a flat lead wrist you can attain plenty of leverage from the wrists. Unless you are wanting to go for long drive competitions. I wouldn't suggest too strong and lots of cupping. You can gain speed, but at a cost of having a few more foul balls. Long and not in play is kinda pointless. If you want effortless power with pinpoint accuracy. Flat lead and lag. Myself, Chuck, Tiger, etc. all use the flat lead. Sergio has a cupped wrist to have all of his angle. But, it affects a lot of his AOA and ball flight. To see how your wrist position affects ball flight. Look at the 9 Days to Amazing Ball Striking Section. You can see how changing the lead wrist at impact (bowed, flat, cupped) alters flight.
October 15, 2018
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William
Hi, great video as well as comment section. I have 2 questions. #1. Do I understand correctly that the grip for the driver should be strong while my iron grip should be less strong? I use the same strong grip for both which might finally, finally explain why I have a little draw with my driver and more of a hook with my irons. #2. Is my grip pressure supposed to be lighter through the transistion than during my backswing, to the point of my hands partly coming off the grip at the top into the downswing, or should my grip pressure be fairly constant throughout the whole swing? I am afraid I grab the handle at the top significantly increasing my grip pressure, which might close the face and explain hooking my irons? What do you think? There was some great teacher who said something to the effect of, "to gain control of the clubface you have to first lose control", which might be describing exactly what Chuck is talking about in the video. Sorry for the length of this but these are 2 questions I have wondered about for a very long time, and I would love to finally get them resolved in my mind. Thx very much in advance.
November 6, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. There isn't a need to change the grip between irons and driver. We prefer a slightly stronger than neutral with every club. A good balance for lag and face control. You must give up control to gain control. Grip pressure will increase slightly throughout the swing without you thinking much about it. The key is too have enough pressure to still hold onto the club, but the wrists staying supple enough to increase lag and allow for a snappy release.
November 7, 2017
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Konstantin
Hi, I am a bit confused here. When starting the downswing the wrist should get flat or slightly bowed (flexion) to start to square the club face, shouldn't it? Chuck's wrist doesn't seem to be flat (at 2:35, 3:21) it is in extension. Could you, please, explain it?
October 18, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Konstantin. Yes, you can see the slight arch in Chuck's wrist at those positions. What Chuck is describing is if you have a strong grip to help preserve the lag and making sure your face doesn't open be adding more cup. More due to the strong grip. For a typical RST player you will have a grip that is just slightly stronger than neutral and you will see more of a flat wrist to bowed at impact.
October 18, 2017
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Antonio
Is the advaice also for irons, or just for the driver?
September 13, 2017
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Chuck
For all clubs
September 18, 2017
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GC
I thought during the downswing the left hand naturally flattens and the cup is lost - yet Chuck can keep some cup at that 90 degree - how does he does acahieve that?
June 27, 2017
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GC
I have a strong grip but still is weak at that position and lose lag compared to Chucks 90 degree natural arch / cup coming down. How does Chuck maintain that natural arch / cup coming down? I suppose that's why it is easy for Chuck to maintain the lag?
June 27, 2017
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GC
Rewatched this video - I have a strong left hand grip - even then I cannot get to Chucks 90 degree hold. How does the thumb position preserve the lag?
June 27, 2017
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GC
When the downcock is achieved and the hands are near or in front the thigh, the purpose of the right hand - is it to preserve the lag position from downcock? Otherwise I feel the clubhead is simply too heavy for my left hand alone to hold and the club just drops and I lose the lag naturally (even standing still that is difficult to hold with just the left hand).
June 26, 2017
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GC
Especially at impact for right hand - how does it work?
June 16, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi GC, watch the lose the right hand at impact video for further information.
June 20, 2017
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GC
The forefinger vs the forth finger - how do they work in the downswing? Pressure-wise. Thanks.
June 16, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi GC, see my comment below and try to keep the trail hand as light on the club as possible.
June 20, 2017
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GC
On the grip pressure for the right hand, which fingers need to put more pressure?
June 16, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
try to keep the pressure light and evenly distributed with all the fingers on the trail hand.
June 20, 2017
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Matt
I tend to always have my club face open at impact. Is this correct? I have played around with a very strong grip, to a slightly strong, to now more neutral. Could it impact why I tend to shank my pitches and chips?
May 26, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Matt. The grip can definitely impact your pitches. We prefer a slightly stronger grip than neutral. That gives you the best option to maintain optimal lag and release the club with ease. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video. If the grip gets too strong. You will feel you have to flip to get the club face square.
May 26, 2017
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GC
On the left hand, the grip pressure is on 3,4,5 finger. How about the right hand?
March 16, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello GC. Across the proximal phalanx of the index and middle two fingers. The bone at the base of the fingers.
March 16, 2017
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Hector
my question is , do I have to maintain the cupping in my left wrist all the time from the takeway and backswing ? I'm a 14 handicap and when I try to keep my left wrist cup I hit the ball better , but i feel a lot of tension in my arms and shoulders, any suugestion
February 11, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Hector. If you grip the club stronger you will tend to maintain a little cupping throughout the backswing. With a RST Standard Grip (slightly stronger than neutral) the cupping will gradually be lost by the top. You might be trying to keep the cupping too much versus what would naturally be there from the grip.
February 11, 2017
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Yuefeng
Hi Craig, in my last swing review, you mentioned my grip appeared neutral at address but then stronger at impact, I wonder how could that happen or is that normal as a way of preserving lag and releasing later? Thanks.
January 3, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Yuefeng. Some players will actually re-grip in the swing. However, I think it was more of you trying to preserve more lag.
January 4, 2017
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Yuefeng
Thanks Craig. Could you elaborate a bit on how the re-grip happens? Is this detrimental to the golf swing?
January 4, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Yuefeng. I don't believe you re-grip. But, some players keep such light pressure going back that on the downswing when they clinch the hands. They actually will re-grip in a different position. Re-gripping to an extreme can be detrimental. However, this affects only a handful of players.
January 4, 2017
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Krishna
I meant neutral grip
October 30, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
No worries. I figured that.
October 31, 2016
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Krishna
hi Chuck, if a strong grip helps with driver lag, there must be a good reason why you recommend a neutral grip instead, for irons -- is it because a neutral head helps bring the wrists in at impact in a way more conducive to compressing the ball when you are playing irons? which does not apply to a driver where you are trying to sweep the ball away at a high launch angle?
October 30, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Krishna. We recommend a slightly stronger than neutral grip for irons. With the grip being closer to neutral. It helps you control trajectory and lead wrist positions easier. Making compression and workability more user friendly for the swinger. Driver's are more for speed and as you noted there is a difference in Angle of Attack (More positive, than negative like an Iron).
October 31, 2016
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John
I have been having big trouble with left arm pushing at the takeaway, leading to all sorts of issues, including getting stuck inside and coming way over the top, leading to anything between a huge pull, a huge size, and a total duff. I really liked the idea in this video of letting the hands go very soft at the top of the swing, and I am thinking that maybe having the hands feel soft or dead during the entire swing could help prevent my left arm push. It seems to work while swinging a club outside in the back yard without hitting balls. Does this sound like a good idea to you? All my efforts to remove my left arm from the takeaway seem not to work, but maybe if I feel like my hand isn't even there it will have the correct effect.
September 13, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello John. Keeping the hands quiet may help with your lead arm push. You don't want to go completely limp. Enough control or pressure that they will react, but not be the force of movement is okay.
September 13, 2016
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Richard
I have a strong grip as per the site. I'm trying to feel like my wrist angle increases during the downcock but, every time i increase that angle past 90, the club is coming away from the ulnar part of my palm. Is that normal, or is this perhaps a flexibility issue? Thank you.
September 7, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Richard. You might have it too strong or not properly in the fingers. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoint Tips Video. You may use interlocking or overlap. Chris prefers interlocking. I prefer overlap.
September 8, 2016
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Mary
I have small hands and have a problem pinching my thumbs and index fingers together can you help with this? Thanks, Mary
July 12, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mary. Take a look at the Golf Grip Checkpoints Video. See if you can get as close as possible. Report back if you still struggle after the video.
July 12, 2016
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Mary
Hi Craig, have checked out the video, am just wondering if my grips are not small enough?
July 12, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Mary. Do you use mid-size or over sized grips? If you believe the grips are too big. You can always ask them to use standard grips with a single layer of tape.
July 13, 2016
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Greg
So there is no square the club face from the top like the irons? Is the grip slightly stronger with the driver than the irons to compensate? Do we still have the flat left wrist at the top of the backswing? Do we have the logo facing the ground? At the halfway point is the club face slightly shut or more pointing to the sky? Does the site have a down the line view of the driver swing?
April 26, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Greg. A DTL View for the Driver is located in the Self Analysis Section. With a stronger grip the lead wrist will have the tendency to be cupped at the top of the backswing. The face will be squaring from the top as the club is always rotating. But, like your post under another video I fear you might be trying to over do that video. With the stronger grip it will be hard to get the logo completely facing the ground or aiming at the target line at impact. Halfway down getting into the trail thigh the club shouldn't be facing the sky and will tend to be square or a hair shut. Personally, I think you will be fine with a normal grip and adjusting the setup for great lag and speed with the driver. Work on taking the trail side out with the Frisbee or Orange Whip Drill. You can really feel the lag that way.
April 28, 2016
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William
Got it. Thanks. Very good illustration.
April 15, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
No Problem William.
April 15, 2016
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William
Should the grip of the left hand be in the third joint and under the pad or in the first and second joints and under the pad or is it one's preference? I have large hands so both ways feel comfortable.
April 15, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. You will be going across the last three fingers of the left hand. Slightly diagonal from the base of the pinky joint to the middle finger joint.
April 15, 2016
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William
I can use either the third joint of the middle finger (the joint just before the palm of the hand; a much stronger grasp) or higher up in the middle finger between the first and second joints (a weaker grasp). To which middle finger joint are you referring?
April 15, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Bill. I sent you an email.
April 15, 2016
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Jay
I should add to that last comment...This is when I keep my left index and thumb pinched together. Thanks.
April 6, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jay. I answered below.
April 6, 2016
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Jay
I have a question about the top of the backswing. Once the club starts lagging my wrists, should my left thumb ( RH golfer ) feel pressure? I actually feel the club load on the right side of my left hand thumb---making gravity pull the weighting my right hand during transition. Is this incorrect?
April 6, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jay. You will feel a little pressure because it will help you control the club on the way down. However, the key is not to push against the club with it. (Left Thumbnail Pain Video). I don't think you are making a major error because you want gravity, soft wrists, and weight to help increase the angle.
April 6, 2016
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Jay
Craig, sorry I didnt phrase my question properly, Im only talking about where I feel pressure on my left thumb. I meant to say, at the top of the backswing, depending on where I place my left thumb, I can feel pressure on the left side of my thumb, or the right side of my thumb. 1) If I pinch my index and thumb together, the clubshaft pressures the right side of my thumb, feeling like the club will roll off into my right hand ( at the top ). 2) If I grip with a small gap between my thumb and index finger, the club falls back into my left hand at the top, because of the pressure on the left side of my thumb. In all honesty, grip #1 shallows the shaft during the transition, because the club is actually falling behind me. Id like to know if this is kind of a "false lag."
April 6, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Jay. The pinch between the Lead Thumb and Index Finger is crucial for a good grip and swing. It would be hard to sway me to allow a gap between them. With that said, it doesn't sound like false lag too me that you are creating. If the Right Hand is on properly. It will also help with support and that roll off feeling won't actually be a roll off, but allowing the right wrist too increase angle coming down. False Lag would be more of not using any weight shift or pull to have a change in direction to increase the angle.
April 6, 2016
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Jay
Thank you Craig. I used to be stiff wrists, this feeling is new to me.
April 6, 2016
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Scott
At the top of the back-swing for most Pro's I've noticed that all their lead wrists are flat. Is this something that we should do?
March 8, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Scott. Yes, you want the lead wrist flat at the top of the backswing. Take a look at Using Your Wrist Effectively and Efficiently Video and the Winter Series Backswing Video.
March 8, 2016
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Robert
I've always had the thumb separated in the past, and as Chuck said I would lose the grip and club (very sloppy at the top) would spin shut on impact. I have a real problem when I put my left hand on the club. I have the proper position, V pointing to my right ear, but when I close the gap between the thumb, my left thumb is on the left side of the shaft. No matter how hard I try to put it on the right side the clubface closes. I am square at impact with the thumb left. Am I losing anything here? Clubface is perfect in the backswing. Now I'm good.
January 15, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. It would be hard to tell without seeing your swing. Follow up this video with the Golf Grip Tips Video. Are you saying "just to be sure" that when you get the thumb placed properly the club is closed at setup or at impact?
January 15, 2016
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Loran
My hands are small, so I am missing the meaty part of the palm in my left grip? Should I compensate for a stronger grip like the baseball grip?
January 7, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Loan. Depending on the size of your hands. The baseball grip or slightly stronger could help.
January 8, 2016
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William
Great video. Can you give some drills or suggestions for how to avoid tension at the top of the swing? I can think and mentally try to maintain a loose feeling in the hands/wrists at the top and through the downswing and can do it during a practice swing, but inevitably I tense up tremendously every time that I am hitting a ball, range and more on the course. Thanks for your time.
December 15, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. You need to think of the swing as a whip. You don't want to crack the whip straight from the top. You crack it at the last possible moment for max whip. The Frisbee Drill, Re-Shaping Your Swing for Lag and Lag and Speed Drills should help with some tension with proper delivery. You only get one speed burst in the swing. You need to wait till you get in the hitting zone before you gas it.
December 15, 2015
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Ronald
Solf wrists at top
October 25, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ronald. Do you have a question about soft wrists?
October 26, 2015
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Michael
Hey! I'm a little puzzled as to the strong grip with the driver . If I take such a strong grip as shown in the video , and then address the ball so becomes either the club closed sharply or if the club will be square , I see all five knuckles of the left hand . Does this really work? Should I really have to have a much stronger grip with the driver ? Feels really weird in the backswing and usually results in a quick hook . Grateful for answers. // Michael from Sweden .
August 17, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. Allow for the face to be square at setup and then place your grip on the club. It sounds like you are gripping the club strong and then trying to manipulate the face to square. If you have a slightly stronger grip with soft wrists you will have the ability to maintain some lag longer for more pop at the ball. I think you just over did it a little.
August 17, 2015
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Loran
So...lighter grip for the pumpcock drill? And then a tighter, stronger grip for the 90 degree lag? Does this drill rely on timing and deliberate aim of a narrow path lag down to the thigh?
August 3, 2015
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Loan -- You want to try and keep the grip pressure and tension as constant as you can and then allow for the weight shift to help create the increase in angle. You should not try and hit positions in the swing and do your best to move through them. If you do not have the wrists at full ROM and then you have some room for increase downcock, that is great. Just make sure you preserve it by allowing the lower body to pull the arms down into the hitting area for the release.
August 8, 2015
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Tony
Does the left wrist at address bend down (ulnar deviation)?
July 14, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tony. There is a little cupping in the lead wrist at setup and a touch of ulnar deviation.
July 14, 2015
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robert
Christopher, thanks that's useful, get some sleep!!!!
June 2, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. No sleep for RST. All go and no quit. I will relay to Chris. Glad he was able to help you more.
June 2, 2015
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Dane
I've always been a "handsy" player with a grip that is too weak. I'm trying to switch to a stronger grip. My question/problem is when I use a strong grip and release the club by rolling the knuckles of the left hand under ( like is promoted in the knuckles down video), I end up with a severely closed club face at impact and all the miserable smoother hooks that go with that position. Any thoughts or suggestions?
June 2, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dane. You have to maintain the angle longer coming down with the stronger grip. That's why we advocate just slightly stronger than neutral because it is tough to not have to hold off a little to keep the face from smothering shut when releasing. You could practice a lot of your Face On Impact Alignments to help though.
June 2, 2015
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robert
Craig, sorry, but to add to my comment, even a suggestion of a shaft(s) to try would be appreciated Rob
June 1, 2015
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Robert, see my response below. Shaft selection is really important these days and it's super important that you get something that will work for you and not against you. Also, we have an instructor listed in the worldwide instructor listings by the name of Tim Overman. He used to work on the mizuno tour van and has some good up to date knowledge on this stuff.
June 2, 2015
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robert
thanks Craig but with due respect, Chuck's statement is pretty clear, "unique driver fitting + instruction + technology = +30 yds in one session" !!!! I'll settle for +20!!. I've been down the fitting path a lot, including twice with Hot stix but no gains, I guess what I'm asking is "what's different about your process", I'm even willing to come to Orlando in the middle of the summer to benefit from it. Rob
June 1, 2015
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Robert, Chuck is due to head back out west for the summer in the next few days. I would navigate to the RST instuctor and send in a request with your questions above to see if you can arrange some time with him for a fitting.
June 2, 2015
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robert
Hi Chuck, Hi, your comment about getting students 30+ yds with proper instruction and FITTING has caught my attention. I have 80-85 sp and have been looking for yrs for a driver that will increase my distance. I like a 44", lighter rather than heavier shaft, can you save me the trip to Orlando by making any suggestions?? I currently have the "07" Burner with the stock shaft in reg. Thanks Rob
June 1, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Robert. Its hards to say without knowing your angle of attack and a few other parameters. With 07 Burner and stock. You are probably missing some yards with newer technology. Look for a good fitter in your area. Could be well worth the investment.
June 1, 2015
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Norman
When I keep my wrists soft and flexible my hands seem to break down at impact and I flip the club head ahead of my hands....any suggestions for stopping flipping and chicken wings????....my previous instructor wanted me to keep my wrist flat throughout the swing which is at odds with your suggestion to cup the wrist to retain lag....right now I am trying to keep my elbows close together throughout the swing.....
January 25, 2015
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Jared (Certified RST Instructor)
Norman, Most people flip/chicken wing at impact when they have a early release or they cast the club at the top of the swing. There club be lots of reasons, but check that first.
January 27, 2015
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Christian
strong grip. Check.
December 8, 2014
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Matthew
With driver shots, should my left hand be cupped and leading clubhead at impact? (similar to iron shots compressing ball)
December 2, 2014
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james (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Matthew, You'll want to make sure that your left hand is always leading the clubhead at impact - otherwise we won't be squaring up the clubface by rotating the left arm into impact and or struggling with controlling the height on our shots. Sorry for the delay on your question
January 23, 2015
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Matthew, Yes, for a standard golf swing, the grip will be the same each time with each club. The grip taught by rotary swing will make your club face such as it will require a lot less rotation of the face to be square at impact thus, you'll be relying a lot less on timing. R.J.
December 2, 2014
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Mark
I am trying to understand the progression in the position of the left had during the swing. At address there is a small amount of cupping in the left hand. In this video there is cupping of the left hand to create lag prior to the release. But at the top of the swing the left hand is straight and at impact the left hand is straight if not pronated. Can you help me connect those positions? Thanks.
October 29, 2014
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R.J. (Certified RST Instructor)
Mark, The left wrist is cupped at the stance through the takeaway in order to help keep the hands and club in front of the body, in conjunction with keeping the right arm straight, to ensure the club stays on plane and gets the maximum amount of width in your swing. As the right elbow pulls the left arm across the body and the left wrist is now above the right elbow, it will naturally pull the cupping out of the wrist and make it flat at the top of the swing. But to answer your question, you transition to a flat wrist during right elbow flexion. This lack of wrist flexion maintains as the body pulls the arms down in the swing. As your hands start to pass the back leg, you start to rotate the logo of your glove towards the ground (away from you), this creates the palmar flexion of the left wrist. After impact the arm externally rotates to allow the wrist to turn to complete the release of the club, at this point, the wrist should be flat again. This is how it will feel during the swing; however, it will be gradually rotating throughout the swing as you attempt to produce these feelings with the wrist. R.J.
October 29, 2014
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Andrew
Great! I'll send you a video tomorrow and hopefully here back from yas before worlds next week!
September 20, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
All good Andrew. Look forward to helping you!
September 20, 2014
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Andrew
Thanks Craig, I do tend to tense up a little sometimes under pressure. If I uploaded my swing to you guys how long would it take for feedback? Thx
September 18, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andrew. We typically try to have returned reviews within a 48 hr cycle.
September 18, 2014
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Andrew
I am a longdriver that competes in longdrive events...any helpful tips for guys that swing over 140mph? Your feedback would be great as I'm heading to the world longdrive championships next week!
September 16, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Andrew. Without seeing your swing or more specific numbers it would be hard to give you much advice. Especially for your swing speed and long drive event we would need to know more about your launch angle, path, spin, etc. We could then tell you some places you are losing distance. With that said soft arms and hands won't hurt. Tensing up can be a speed killer for you and inhibit the proper release for max speed.
September 16, 2014
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Dennis
Is the softening of the hands at the top something we should be consciously aware of when we're on the course,or is this something we should concentrate on on the range for muscle memory and then forgotten?
August 10, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Dennis. Not something that should be forgotten, but don't go to the course and give up control of the club. Maintain good grip pressure, supple wrist. Don't force total relaxation of the hands and wrist. Allow the momentum change, supple wrist and pull from the lead side to get more angle.
August 10, 2014
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Christopher
Very confused about this video. A strong grip at address has some cupping. OK. Then, Chuck demonstrates how this same strong grip (again, essentially cupped) adds leverage and helps maintain lag. BUT ..... we continue to talk about the left wrist being FLAT at the top of the swing. So, from address to the point where we start releasing lag, the wrist goes from cupped (address) - to flat (top) - and then back to cupped (just prior to lag release). This can't be correct. What am I missing?
July 18, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Chris. Address will start slightly cupped. Flat at the top. Due to proper forearm rotation and flexion of the right arm. On the way down as the angle increases it will tend to cup slightly. If you started to bow from the top you would lose lag. It is just returning to its natural position once the arms start rotating in a different direction. Don't focus on it too much. Just make sure the grip is correct.
July 18, 2014
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chris
do you want the same feeling with your irons in the backswing where your hands go soft or do you want to keep them more firm?
June 25, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Chris. It's a happy medium. We don't want the hands too soft or we lose control. Keep the wrist supple, but still allow enough pressure to control the club in the hands.
June 25, 2014
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James
It would be nice if after viewing one of the video's that I could save them and not have to relooked them up to review. James Pence
June 21, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey James. Have you tried putting them in your favorites folder? Or, are you asking to save them to your hard drive?
June 21, 2014
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Bunsun
Hey Craig, I have a similar comment. I've got a bunch of videos in my favorites folder, but it sure would be helpful if there was a way I could manage them. That is, ordering them in priority or marking a few of them as "must watch" favorites. I've created my own list on a word document, but it's a pain to have to go back and look at that each time. In other words, all favorites are not equal. Help please.
October 10, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
I am unaware if we have the ability to set the order right now. I apologize for the inconvenience of switching between word and web. I will submit this to tech support. Always looking for suggestions to enhance user experience.
October 10, 2014
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Jim
Where do I find videos that I have made favorites?
May 25, 2014
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Click Member Tools --> My Program Home Page --> Practice Plan (On the Left) --> Favorites (On the Left). Hope this Helps
May 25, 2014
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ALPHAS
When I try the strengthen my grip, my left wrist tends to cup; not bow. Is this correct?
May 10, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
With the grip that we outline and the strength of it, you will see some cupping in the left hand at the address position. It will work to a flat position at the top of the backswing and stay flat to slightly bowed at impact.
May 11, 2014
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patrick14
The part where you show the left hand on top of the club. This I think is going to really change my game. Not only was I having trouble creating lag, I was not able to release the club without flipping. I hope I am right in using this grip for all my clubs and not just the driver. Please advise, and thanks a million. This golf sight is second to none
April 28, 2014
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
That is fine, you want to keep things as consistent as possible from one club to the next.
April 28, 2014
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Tom
Sorry for the barrage of questions here today, but I always thought the left hand gradually moved the clubface from open to square at impact to released after impact. This video seems to be counter to my understanding; the left hand goes soft at the start of the weight shift, holds the lag until the left hand hits the left thigh, squares at impact, then releases. Is that true or is it something else?
April 6, 2014

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