RSA Webinar 2 - Golf Back Pain Fix

Have golf back pain? Is it crippling your ability to enjoy the game and play your best? Well, I've got great news for you! This webinar touches on literally every "pain" point that causes most golfers back pain, and teaches you how to fix it!

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Talking about back pain today, it's going to be a big one.

I know many of you struggle with back pain.

It's a bad thing to have to deal with in the golf swing.

We're going to get rid of it today.

Distance, 186 yards.

So I'm going to take this in a few different segments.

So the first part is going to be setup issues that cause back pain.

Believe it or not, a lot of back pain is caused from two common setup issues that we're going to address today.

And then we're going to do some backswing discussion on what typical faults and mistakes that we make that lead to back pain.

And then, of course, the big one at the end is going to be the downswing stuff.

That's where the majority of injuries happen.

So we're going to talk about some prevention stuff and understanding how to get your back to work the way it was designed to to keep you from being in pain.

Because as we just saw in these questions, a lot of us out there have a lot of back pain.

In fact, back pain is one of the issues that I struggle with that encouraged me to really take this deep dive into developing rotary swing the way that I did.

Because I was hurt every single time I played golf.

I didn't realize it until I finally started taking a break.

Man, I feel good if I don't play golf.

That's not a good sign.

If I take a few days off, I feel great.

And then after a round of golf, I feel terrible.

I'm tired.

I'm fatigued.

Shouldn't be tired after a round of golf.

It's not that physically demanding.

So when I started understanding what was causing my back pain and using our medical panel to help us understand from a biomechanical perspective, anatomical perspective, what issues we could address in the swing.

That's when rotary swing really started taking shape as really being a way to swing the club that is spine safe.

That is huge to me.

And I know it's obviously huge to so many of you out there.

So, first things first.

I'm going to talk about setup stuff.

I'm going to open up to some questions.

Then we'll do the back swing stuff.

Open up to a few more questions.

And then down swing, I'm going to open to a few more questions.

So, setup.

The number one thing that we see in setup is a little bit of lordosis.

A little bit of extra curvature in your lower back.

And this happens for a lot of reasons.

One is we sit all day.

We kind of tend to let our bellies pooch out a little bit.

And so, that's all great for yoga breathing.

But in golf, we need to keep our abs in.

You need to imagine that you're pulling your belly button in towards your spine.

Now, not so much that it's tight.

You don't want your abs to be tight.

You don't want anything to be tight, per se, in the swing.

But they need to be supportive because that's really a primary role of your abdominal muscles is to hold your guts in.

Just as silly as it sounds, but it's true.

And then, as that's happening, that's providing support for your lumbar.

So, for those of you that have a lot of lower back pain, the first thing that you want to do is check setup.

If you're setup, and you can see kind of this extra curvature in my low back here versus my spine being in neutral, and the simple way to check that is to grab a club, put it against your head, pull it against your middle of your back, and down here around your belt, and hinge forward to get in your setup.

Now, your lower back, you should have a little gap here.

I can stick my hand in between it.

It's just really sitting against my belt.

There is curvature in your spine that we want to maintain.

Then it sits up here high in my thoracic, and then my head.

This is the safest place for you to put your spine in as you hinge forward.

But the tendency is a couple things.

One, we just kind of get lazy, and we let our back kind of sag, and instantly I feel discomfort here.

So, make sure you're standing up and doing this along with you so you can feel this so that you recognize when you start to have issues.

So, set up and just kind of let your belt line tilt forward like you're sticking your rear out and letting your back curve, and you should notice pain right away, especially as soon as you start to move, you'll start to feel some bunching there.

So, first things first, just make sure your back is nice and neutral.

You can hold that club against your back like I just demonstrated.

Hinge forward from your hip socket.

Don't round your lower back.

That's another common issue that doesn't necessarily lead to back pain as much as the first.

But this leads to a lack of mobility, which then leads to compensations in your swing, which then leads to back pain.

So, that's the second thing.

You can have too much curvature in your spine this way.

And you can also, then a lot of golf instructors used to use the term bend from your waist.

And what they were doing is actually telling you to curve your lower back.

Which again, now as soon as you do this, and if you're standing up with me, put your arms across your chest and try to rotate back and forth.

You lose a lot of mobility.

So, curvature in your spine.

We want to maintain the natural curvature in our spine, making sure that it's nice and neutral.

And as we hinge forward, we maintain that.

Don't let your belly stick out.

If you need to, feel like you're pulling your belly button in because gravity is trying to pull your intestines and everything else forward.

So, those are the two most common set of mistakes.

I want to talk about one more that I just did this week talking about tiger's back issues and talking about setting up on the left side.

This has become a pretty popular thing for a lot of golf instruction out there.

And so, as you're setting up on the left side, you begin to turn.

If you don't allow your hips to turn a lot, if you're hanging on that left side, you start running into the same stuff I showed you with tiger, that you're pivoting from your sacrum.

And so, now it's really difficult.

You've got to be really flexible, but also you're just putting a lot of torque on your spine.

So, make sure as you set up, when you're set up with any club in the bag, be roughly 50-50.

And then as you go back, allow your weight to shift to the right.

This is critical because now you're moving your balancing joint to your hip socket.

And you can turn on your right hip socket all day and keep your spine completely out of the mix in terms of putting stress on it.

Versus if you're hanging here and trying to turn like this, it's uncomfortable just doing it in slow motion.

So, those are the three most common setup issues that we see.

The first two are more from down the line, and the last one is when you're looking from face on.

Make sure you have axis tilt, and then as you go back, you let your weight shift into the right.

Let me open up to a few questions here.

Any questions on those setup issues?

Ralph, I have L3, L4, L4, L5 fuse.

Most likely I have sacrum fuse.

Am I done playing golf?

No, not necessarily at all.

So, for those of you who already have back issues out there.

Now, first of all, I'm not a doctor, obviously.

So, consult with your surgeon, talk to them first, physical therapist, any other things other than your golf instructor for advice on your spine.

I'm here to help you move your body in a way that's safe for the golf swing, but certainly you've got to consult with a medical professional on this stuff.

But, if you're fused in the lower part of your spine, it doesn't mean your life is over.

You can't play golf anymore.

It doesn't mean that at all.

What it means is that you need to be extra careful to do things.

To make sure that your spine stays in neutral throughout the swing, so that you're not putting extra load on your lumbar.

When you're bent over in a way that's putting stress on that and then you're not allowing your weight to shift to the right, you're putting a tremendous amount of stress on your lumbar area.

So, it's really important that you keep your spine in neutral, which shouldn't be too terribly difficult because half of them are going to be fused already.

So, I'm just like for me, I'm fused at one, two, and three.

I don't have any choice what position they're in.

So, your spine, your lumbar is probably going to be where it's going to be.

It's already fused there.

But then as you go back, it's really important to let your weight shift so that you're balancing and shifting more on this right hip socket than staying fixed or worse, hanging on the left side and trying to turn.

So, any other questions on the setup stuff?

These are really simple things to get right, but you really want to stand up and feel them doing them wrong.

Let your belly bulge out and then pull your belly button in.

And this is often times one of the quickest fixes for back pain in the swing.

Alan, good question.

Does axis tilt affect back pain when we do it?

It can, for sure.

So, just like what we were looking at from down the line and I was hinging forward this way, trying to keep my spine in neutral.

The same is true when viewed from face on.

So, You've seen me do my little axis tilt drill, where I hold a club against my sternum and my belt buckle and then slide my hips to the left until the club hits me in the knee.

That's the proper amount of tilt.

What a lot of golfers do instead of doing this is they do this.

That's not axis tilt.

That's spine bend.

That's side bend.

And so, right away, now I'm taking my spine out of neutral from this direction.

So, it's important that you let your hips slide.

And notice that my spine, represented by the club shaft, is still roughly 90 degrees to my pelvis.

That's what I'm trying to maintain it in neutral in.

My pelvis has to tilt and the belt line is going to drop slightly.

But the big thing is that my spine from face in, face on, is still standing in neutral.

So, that's the goal when you're getting set up face on and down the line, is to keep your spine more or less in neutral as best we can.

If you start adding a side bend, then absolutely it's an incorrect way to get axis tilt and you will experience some low back pain there or can't.

How flared out can your right foot be for mobility?

Robert, good question.

So, knowing it does actually impact what you may experience and feel in your back, I always tell people that you can flare your foot out however much you need to achieve the goal, the positions that we're looking for.

So, in the downswing, obviously, we know that we need to get our hips roughly 90 degrees to the target.

So, if you can't have your foot square, it feels very strenuous in order to get there, then you flare your foot out until it's comfortable to be in this position.

The same is true in the back swing.

Whatever we need to do to get a 90 degree shoulder turn, for you that might be 30 degrees of hip rotation, for somebody else it might be 50 degrees of hip rotation.

Whatever it's going to take to get that full turn and not feel a tremendous amount of strain and load on that right hip is what you need to do to flare out your foot.

So, if you can get a full shoulder turn with having your foot square without having to have your hips over-rotated, then that's the amount of foot flare that you need.

Any other questions on setup?

Simple enough.

All right.

Back swing stuff.

So, now we're going to start moving.

And this is where stuff starts really going off the tracks really quickly, is when we actually start moving our body rather than just sitting there statically.

And it's really easy to start making really simple mistakes very quickly that lead to a multitude of back issues.

So, the first one, again, I want to go back to that video I just did on Tiger, Just because it demonstrates perfectly how subtle the differences are between having a back that's going to feel really good after a round of golf and a back that can be in a lot of pain after a round of golf, and that is weight transfer.

Every hitting and throwing sport in the world involves weight transfer.

You're never going to see a pitcher wind up like this.

He's going to load to the right, step, transfer, turn, so on and so forth.

So, hitting and throwing sports involve weight transfer.

It's critical for momentum, for power, for sequencing, et cetera.

So, by Tiger hanging a little bit more on this left side as he was taught, now again, your pivot point becomes more or less your sacrum, your pelvis, instead of the hip socket, which is designed to do this.

So, it's really, really important and really simple to make sure that as you go back, let your weight go to the right.

You should almost be able to comfortably lift your left foot up.

It's not 100% on the right side, but you should feel like, oh gosh, in order to be able to lift my left foot up, I've got to make a big body movement in order to get this thing up.

As you go to the top, you should feel maybe transfer 20%, 25% more weight, and you can pick it up very quickly and easily.

That is a simple check to ensure that you're pivoting on your right hip socket, which is safe and easy to do, versus just staying centered.

So many golfers fear the term sway so bad.

What's funny is over the last 20 years of teaching, I've seen sway become kind of like the ugly redheaded stepchild of the golf swing.

No matter what we've got to do, we've got to get rid of your sway.

And here's what's ironic about it.

There's been such a pervasive change in the message that comes out for the bulk of golf instructors that I hardly ever see anybody sway anymore.

In fact, it's probably been five or ten years since that's been a really common problem that we've seen in our in-person lessons.

That doesn't mean that people don't sway still.

Of course they do.

But it's not like it used to be where everybody was convinced that they had this huge head movement and they had to fix it.

In fact, what I see more often than not is the opposite, is that people tend to stay too centered and don't allow themselves to move at all.

Obviously, I don't want your head moving way off the ball, we allow a little bit of head movement, inch and a half max is really pushing it any more than that and then you're starting to add too many variables to the swing.

But if you can shift your weight onto the right hip socket without your sway, without a head movement happening and without a hip sway, this would be a hip sway as your hips are sliding this way and then sliding this way.

In the swing, when we're pivoting on the hip socket, that right hip should look like it stays exactly where it started the entire time.

But in order for that to happen, I have to shift weight laterally.

If I don't and I just turn, this is what's going to happen.

Now I'm pivoting around this base of my spine and you'll see that my hips have to move away from that line.

If I was to stay against this right hip line, I have to shift laterally while I'm turning, and that creates the illusion that my hips never moved at all, when, in fact, it's actually moving diagonally back this way while I'm turning.

So it's really important to get this right because you should feel, if you're doing this right now with me while standing up, that you can stand on your right side very lightly and pivot back and forth and feel no strain on your back at all.

If you have a tendency to let your hips actually slide while you're doing this, this is a hip sway, and then you're turning this way, well now we're running into big problems because now we're putting our spine not only in a rotated position, a twisted position, but a side bend as well.

And that's the quickest way to get a bulging disc.

So you want to keep that in neutral, maintain your axis tilt, we're in a healthy spine position.

A lot of times people start getting into this tilted position where we have side bend and twisting when they start lifting the club with their arms.

This is a really common fault to start going like this.

So from down the line, we see this quite a bit.

People trying to stay centered and they lift their arms straight up in the air and that causes you to tilt as a result.

Again, the core movements are nothing more than a little bit of hip shift to the right and pulling that right shoulder behind my head.

And the whole backswing is pretty much done.

I've kept my spine in neutral, I've shifted my weight and made this really, really simple.

So backswing stuff, the easiest way to fix it is just to do the simple little things right.

A little bit of weight transfer to the right, pushing pressure on that right side, pulling the right shoulder behind your head, and all your back pain issues will then have to be a result of something you did with your arms.

But if you get your body to move correctly and being controlled during the backswing, then the arms don't have a chance to take over.

So backswing stuff should be really, really simple.

It's usually revolving around not transferring your weight correctly, either letting your hips slide, sway to the right, or not letting your weight shift at all, and that's causing your body to rotate around the base of your spine.

All right.

So let's dive into the downswing stuff, because this is where the vast majority of your injuries are going to happen, and why?

Probably most of you tuned in today.

In order to fix this stuff, this is really the critical thing that we've got to do.

The thing I want you to practice today, so if you have a club, I want you to get up and do this with me, is that we're going to learn to be in a fixed impact position and then release the club.

Now, most golfers don't ever quite get the release just right for one of two reasons.

One, either their arms are doing too much in the swing and the body is just kind of responding to what the lower body is doing, or the lower body just doesn't get out of the way in time.

And what I mean by that is a lot of times golfers get into impact and their hips are still turning, their shoulders may be turning, and everything is causing the club to work to the left.

So this is a really common follow-through position or release position that is taught these days, is the handle is working to the left.

Now, as I'm doing this, I want you to do this with me while you're watching and following along.

So take the club, get down into the delivery position where your club shaft's about parallel to the ground, hands are about in front of the thigh, and now I want you just to turn your whole body and hold the club face in that same position.

And I want you to see what you feel in your back as you do this to move the club to parallel to the ground on the other side.

So do this a few times, then if you feel something, put it in the chat board.

So I wanted to discuss this with you.

So clubs parallel to the ground roughly, and now just turn and move the handle to the left, like you see so much golf instruction out there today, to where the club face is actually more or less matching my spine angle.

This is so common, but you should start to notice if you're doing this, that you feel a lot of load in your lumbar area.

That's where you're almost trying to twist from to get that extra rotation to hold the release of the club off.

If you release the club properly, you won't feel any strain in your back.

Lower left back pain, definite strain lower back, exactly.

So this stuff, man, this is one of those things I just wish people would stop teaching.

It just shocks me, and I understand the reasoning behind it.

The reason why this came out was to keep the club face constant through the hitting area.

So it's not slamming shut or staying open because so many golfers try to save the shot with their hands.

We obviously don't want you to do that.

Nobody can time that consistently.

So they said, hey, let's just take the face rotation completely out of the swing and make it move at the back, and then, gosh, as you guys feel for yourself, you instantly start feeling back pain.

Now you're doing this slow motion, and you're only doing it a couple times.

Imagine doing this thousands of times or tens of thousands of times over and over and over again at speed, while hitting the ball, while hitting the ground, taking divots.

All of that's putting a tremendous amount of load on your lumbar at a point where you're extremely vulnerable.

Your pelvis is not in a stable position.

Your spine is no longer in neutral, and it's not designed to bear a bunch of load in this position.

This is how you get bulging discs.

The worst thing you can do for your spine is to be in a rotated or twist your spine and add side bend to that.

So that would look like rotation and now side bend.

And if you can feel this again for yourself, you can do rotation side bend.

This way, either way, you're going to start to feel all of that strain in your back.

So what I want you to practice today is we're going to do this together.

I want you to drill getting into an impact position.

So what I mean by that, I want you to get your hips open by straightening this left leg.

From base on, make sure it's in neutral.

Just drop a club down from your first belt loop, give or take a little bit.

And that should go straight up and down.

Right foot's on the ground, rolled in.

You're hinged forward, so your spine has axis tilt, but very little rotation and side bend in it.

As little as humanly possible.

And I'm going to show you in a moment with my swing while I step through it frame by frame in just a moment, what we're talking about here.

So I'm going to get into this impact position and now I'm going to have my hands in the delivery and I'm going to move them from here to impact.

To the release.

And my body's not going to move one bit.

Did you see that?

Watch it again.

So I'm going to go for the delivery position.

I'm posted up.

My left glute is totally engaged.

My right glute is engaged.

My left quad is engaged.

I'm posting up.

I'm done moving.

Impact, release.

What did you see happen to my hips?

Delivery, impact, release.

My body is barely moving at all.

That is how you protect your spine at the point that is most vulnerable.

The last thing you want to be doing is having everything shifting, moving, turning, twisting, tilting, all while you're doing this at 100 miles an hour.

You have to make sure at the point of impact where the club's moving the fastest, we're getting ready to release the club, that your body is stable.

And that's what we're practicing today is getting anchored to the ground.

So if I'm down the line, I'm going to preset myself.

I'll look in the mirror and make sure my left hip is in neutral.

My right leg is relaxed.

It can be rolled in slightly, but all the weight and load is coming down to the left side.

I'm going to get my hips slightly open, come down into the delivery position, impact, release.

And all I'm trying to do is just squeeze my glutes together as I feel this.

So that now the club gets the feeling of releasing past my body and my body is chilled out, nice and safe.

So, any questions on how to practice this drill?

Because this drill is really going to teach you, it's basically the 9 to 3 drill, which is about making a backswing right now.

We're just presetting ourselves in impact and then letting the club release from there.

And as we do that, you can start to get the feeling of how stable your lumbar is and your hips are when you release the club the way Rotary Swing is teaching.

So, let me answer some questions here.

I'm doing something incorrectly that is causing this.

Glenn.

Glenn, my first guess, if you're experiencing right hip pain, those two wouldn't necessarily relate directly to each other.

There would be something else most likely that's going on there.

So, typically, again, when I see axis tilt, hardly anybody gets it perfect on the first try, even though it's really simple movement.

Everybody wants to add side bend.

Now, as far as that affecting your right hip, There could be something else going on that you've got a disc out of place or something that could impact the right hip, and there's nerves going through there.

But as far as that goes, I want to see your swing to see what's going on there because it really shouldn't be directly related to each other just as far as axis tilt.

So, there's something else definitely going on in your swing.

So, any questions on how to do this drill?

This is a great drill to practice.

You can hit balls.

You can go through like I just did a minute ago where it's just stopping here and getting yourself an impact and releasing, and then you can slowly start adding momentum to it and going back and starting to make your turn.

But the key is making sure that you're posted up and your hips essentially stop moving before we get to the impact area when you're doing this drill.

And let me share with you, if I don't have any questions, I'm going to share my screen with you and show you what I'm talking about, what we should look at here.

All right.

So, here's me just a few minutes ago before we started this doing this drill.

So, this is actually a full swing.

So, but as I'm coming down, my goal and my vision is from right here, I'm going to feel like my hips are done now because they're still moving a little bit.

So, again, the drill is going to be a little bit more exaggerated where we're going to preset ourselves into this impact position and then move through it.

And then the goal from there is I only want the club to release, not my body.

So, in the swing I was demonstrating earlier, the handle would start going hard left here.

But instead, you're going to see my handle rotate and my right arm look like it's thrown straight down my toe line.

So, when I look down the line, if I release the club well, my right arm is going to be right over my toes and fully rotated and released over due to the momentum of the club, not me trying to flip the club face over.

I'm just stopping, slamming on the brakes with my hips as best I can.

There's all this momentum in the club that wants to rotate the face over, so I let it.

Now, if you look at my lumbar, my lower back has very, very, very little side bend in it.

And a lot of times you can see Rory, as an example, will have a lot of side bend.

So, I saw that in his swing a long time ago, And you could see where he really is going to risk some ribs coming out of place or some low back pain over his career.

Because he creates a lot of side bend in this lower right-hand side of his body because he's pushing really hard and a bunch of other things.

But anyway, the gist of it is that this drill is feeling like from right here, and the club's roughly parallel to the ground, as you release the club, your body doesn't move.

It's just the club releasing, taking over past your body, and that's the fastest, safest way for you to move that golf club.

All right.

So, Larry, having trouble getting into that position on the full swing.

You've got to slow down.

This is not something that you.

Let's go back to this.

I can't make it any bigger.

So, you're having trouble getting into this position in the full swing.

The reason is that you're just not able to understand all the pieces that are causing you trouble in the first place.

So, in the downswing, you're probably firing your arms or whatever it may be.

Let me see if I can get this screen sharing thing off here.

Ah, there we go.

Okay.

So, you can't do this at full speed.

Makes perfect sense.

Most people won't.

That's why I gave you this little drill to start out with and slowly start making a little.

Getting into this position will be impossible if you're doing other things wrong, like throwing your right arm from the top, pushing hard off the right side, all these little things.

That's why it's really important to start really slow to where we're actually stopped, posted up, so we can get the feeling of it, and then we slowly start making it a little bit bigger and a little bit faster from there.

This has to be your priority, especially if you have back issues.

To slow it down, get into this position correctly, take yourself some time.

Give yourself some time to work up to swing at full speed.

If you just go straight to full speed and expect to achieve this position and you don't have all these other things in place, it'll be impossible.

Let's see.

So, the feeling of squeezing the glutes and delivery to the past impact?

Yes.

So, my goal in the swing is that from basically right here, my glutes are fully contracted.

They're holding me stable, and then it's just the club releasing from there.

That's it.

Let's see, Rob.

I find easier to do when I keep my head back.

When my head comes up too early, my chest opens.

Absolutely.

Where your eyes go, your head goes, your head goes, your shoulders kind of go.

So, it's very, very important that your body is moving correctly in order to do that.

My problem is to set up with too much weight on the right side and inability to get to my left side.

Well, Frank, that sounds like a simple fix, though, right?

If you know that you're setting up too far on the right side, let's balance it out, right?

You've got to be set up correctly in the first place in order for your body to be able to move efficiently and correctly in the swing.

If you're hanging on the right side in the setup, then it's obviously going to be very difficult for you to shift back to the left.

We want that momentum of shifting into the right side, loading the muscles, And then shifting back to the left, that gives us good rhythm and tempo in the swing.

That also helps us conserve energy because we don't have to expend the leverage we have in our arms until very late in the swing.

So, any other questions on this drill?

This is one you can take home.

You can hammer a million balls doing this.

You can't do it enough to get the proper feeling of being posted up and releasing the club down the line.

Not that you're trying to.

I'm not certainly trying to move my arm in a certain way.

My arms are simply releasing because I've got the club with leverage back here, and I just let it go where it's trying to go, and that pulls my arms into this position.

My goal is to protect my spine, so I'm making sure I post it up, spines in neutral, and let the club release, and it's the safest way for your body to release the club, and the fastest, because my arms are just freewheeling through.

I'm just letting the club go.

Any questions on anything I talked about today with back pain?

It's a little 30 -minute brief on everything that we typically see that causes the most back issues.

Let's see.

Is this going to be used as the perfect impact drill alternative?

Five minutes per.

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

All of these drills can be stacked on top of each other.

They can be combined with other drills.

They can take things away and do other things.

We're always just trying to get our body to do the same thing.

At impact, this is what really the king of the castle really is getting into this impact position with your body, and the arms and hands will take care of themselves.

If you want to do this drill as just its primary drill to learn an impact position and release, absolutely.

It's a great way to do it.

Can you go over the feel of the release?

Sure, Mike.

Tell me a little bit more about what you're specifically looking for in terms of the feel of the release.

The simplest way I can describe it is the release is called the release for a reason.

Release means to let go.

The last thing I'm trying to do is hold onto that club like I demonstrated earlier.

When you see people who move the handle hard left, you're literally making a check swing and holding off the release of the club.

You have to do that with tight hands and then rotate your body.

I'm doing the exact opposite.

I hold the club with my two fingers and just letting it go.

I'm trying to feel what that club wants to do at this point.

I have leverage, so it wants to release, go down, and the toe is rotating, so it wants to do that as well.

So the release is really freewheeling release.

It's kind of difficult to do the tension.

Yep, absolutely.

If you're holding onto the club tight, you won't be able to release the club.

Remember, it's literally saying the exact opposite.

The release means to let go.

So literally, I'm essentially trying to let go of a club head at impact and release it.

So take that definition almost literally.

Don't throw the club down the fairway, but it is really important to get that release My teacher Tim has tried to get me to throw clubs down the fairway.

Yeah, that's a little bit of an exaggeration.

I used to do that, too, until I had a guy throw a club on a tee box.

And then he threw it about 50 yards behind him and almost killed somebody on the range.

So we don't tell you to throw clubs anymore.

But the idea is essentially the same.

You're just trying to let it go.

You will never feel this if your body is doing a bunch of things incorrectly.

If you're pushing from the top of the right, your hands have to tighten up.

If you're ripping your shoulders down, your hands have to tighten up.

So it's why it's more important to get the core body movement stuff down first, to get into this impact position.

When the release happens just completely automatically, more or less.

Larry, is the weight more on the front heel when you follow through?

Front ankle is where I would describe it.

So not quite back on the heel.

That's too far back.

But the middle of your foot to the middle of your ankle is where you want to pivot.

You don't want to be on the ball of your foot.

That moves your primary balancing joint to your knee.

You don't want to be back on your heel.

That's too off balance there.

So right over the center of your ankle where you want to drive that force to the left.

Ian, it's not perfectly static because my body is still turning.

If I kept it totally static, then that would put a lot of stress on my spine.

So there's a little bit of movement going through, but it's way less than what most people do and realize it's happening in their swing.

Most people we see are doing this, a lot of chest rotation, a lot of hip rotation where their foot's coming up in the air.

And more importantly, we see more often than not, especially in older golfers, they do this where the left knee never straightens up.

And we have to really harp on getting that leg straight because that's a critical part of posting up and engaging.

That glute and keeping your hips from continuing to move laterally or continuing to rotate that aggressively.

So you really want to feel that your hips are slamming on the brakes, but there absolutely will be some movement still in the swing.

Does the release your limbs are different if you're trying to keep the hands in front of the ball?

Absolutely not.

My hands are in front of the ball.

In fact, I'm hitting a seven iron and I can launch it as low as 19 degrees.

That's a two iron lock.

So my hands are obviously still in front of the ball at impact.

It doesn't change anything how you're releasing it.

Your hands are still going to be in front and then the club's releasing.

Any other questions on what we just covered on back pain?

Does it all make sense?

So you've got homework.

I'd love to see your next swing reviews out there, guys.

When we're doing this, we're totally posted up and that club is releasing with free speed and effortless power.

As long as you're posting up, you're going to protect your spine, get your joints in neutral, and you'll be a much more powerful ball striker with way less effort.