Golf Back Pain Webinar (RSA)

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And now, I'm going to have my hands in the delivery, and I'm going to move them from here to impact, to the release, and my body's not going to move one bit.

Did you see that?

Watch it again.

So I'm going to go for the delivery position.

I'm posted up.

My left glute is totally engaged.

My right glute is engaged.

My left quad is engaged.

I'm posting up.

I'm done moving.

Impact, release.

What did you see happen to my hips?

Delivery, impact, release.

My body is barely moving at all.

That is how you protect your spine at the point that it's most vulnerable.

The last thing you want to be doing is having everything shifting, moving, turning, twisting, tilting, all while you're doing this at 100 miles an hour.

You have to make sure at the point of impact where the club's moving the fastest, we're getting ready to release the club, that your body is stable.

And that's what we're practicing today, is getting anchored to the ground.

So if I'm down the line, I'm going to preset myself.

I'll look in the mirror and make sure my left hip is in neutral.

My right leg is relaxed.

It can be rolled in slightly.

But all of the weight and load is coming down to the left side.

I'm going to get my hips slightly open.

Come down into the delivery position.

Impact, release.

And all I'm trying to do is just squeeze my glutes together as I feel this.

So that now the club gets the feeling of releasing past my body and my body is chilled out, nice and safe.

So, any questions on how to practice this drill?

Because this drill is really going to teach you, it's basically the 9-to-3 drill, which is about making a backswing right now.

We're just presetting ourselves in impact and then letting the club release from there.

And as we do that, you can start to get the feeling of how stable your lumbar is and your hips are when you release the club the way Rotary Swing is teaching.

So, let me answer some questions here.

I'm doing something incorrectly that is causing this.

Glenn.

Glenn, my first guess, if you're experiencing right hip pain, those two wouldn't necessarily relate directly to each other.

There would be something else, most likely, that's going on there.

So, typically, again, when I see axis tilt, hardly anybody gets it perfect on the first try, even though it's really simple movement.

Everybody wants to add side bend.

Now, as far as that affecting your right hip, there could be something else going on.

You've got a disc out of place or something that could impact the right hip and there's nerves going through there.

But as far as that goes, I want to see your swing to see what's going on there because it really shouldn't be directly related to each other just as far as axis tilt.

So, there's something else definitely going on in your swing.

So, any questions on how to do this drill?

This is a great drill to practice.

You can hit balls.

You can go through like I just did a minute ago where it's just stopping here and getting yourself an impact and releasing.

And then you can slowly start adding momentum to it and going back and starting to make your turn.

But the key is making sure that you're posted up and your hips essentially stop moving before we get to the impact area when you're doing this drill.

So, let me share with you if you don't have any questions.

I'm going to share my screen with you and show you what I'm talking about, what we should look at here.

All right.

So, here's me just a few minutes ago before we started doing this drill.

So, this is actually a full swing.

So, but as I'm coming down, my goal and my vision is from right here, I'm going to feel like my hips are done.

Now, because they're still moving a little bit.

So, again, the drill is going to be a little bit more exaggerated where we're going to preset ourselves into this impact position and then move through it.

And then the goal from there is I only want the club to release, not my body.

So, in the swing I was demonstrating earlier, the handle would start going hard left here.

But instead, you're going to see my handle rotate and my right arm look like it's thrown straight down my toe line.

So, when I look down the line, if I release the club well, my right arm is going to be right over my toes and fully rotated and released over due to the momentum of the club, not me trying to flip the club face over.

I'm just stopping, slamming on the brakes with my hips as best I can.

There's all this momentum in the club that wants to rotate the face over, so I let it.

Now, if you look at my lumbar, my lower back has very, very, very little side bend in it.

Now, a lot of times you can see Rory, as an example, will have a lot of side bend.

So, I saw that in his swing a long time ago, And you can see where he really is going to risk some ribs coming out of place or some low back pain over his career.

Because he creates a lot of side bend in this lower right-hand side of his body because he's pushing really hard and a bunch of other things.

But, anyway, the gist of it is that this drill is feeling like from right here, and the club's roughly parallel to the ground, as you release the club, your body doesn't move.

It's just the club releasing, taking over past your body, and that's the fastest, safest way for you to move that golf club.

All right, so, Larry, having trouble getting to that position on the full swing.

You've got to slow down.

This is not something that you – let's go back to this.

So, if you're having trouble getting into this position in the full swing, the reason is that you're just not able to understand all the pieces that are causing you trouble in the first place.

By firing your arms or whatever it may be, let me see if I can get this web screen sharing thing off here.

Ah, there we go.

So, you can't do this at full speed, makes perfect sense.

Most people won't, that's why I gave you this little drill to start out with and slowly start making a little bit bigger back swings.

Getting into this position will be impossible if you're doing other things wrong, like throwing your right arm from the top, pushing hard off the right side, all these little things.

That's why it's really important to start really slow to where we're actually stopped, posted up, so we can get the feeling of it, and then we slowly start making it a little bit bigger and a little bit faster from there.

This has to be your priority, especially if you have back issues, to slow it down, get into this position correctly, take yourself some time – give yourself some time to work up to swing at full speed.

If you just go straight to full speed and expect to achieve this position and you don't have all these other things in place, it'll be impossible.

Let's see.

So, the feeling of squeezing the glutes from delivery to the past impact?

Yes.

So, my goal in the swing is that from basically right here, my glutes are fully contracted, they're holding me stable, and then it's just the club releasing from there.

That's it.

Let's see.

It's easier to do when I keep my head back.

When my head comes up too early, my chest opens.

Absolutely.

Where your eyes go, your head goes, your head goes, your shoulders are going to go.

So, it's very, very important that your body is moving correctly in order to do that.

My problem is to set up with too much weight on the right side and inability to get to my left side.

Well, Frank, that sounds like a simple fix, though, right?

If you know that you're setting up too far on the right side, let's balance it out, right?

You've got to be set up correctly in the first place in order for your body to be able to move efficiently and correctly in the swing.

If you're hanging on the right side at setup, then it's obviously going to be very difficult for you to shift back to the left.

We want that momentum of shifting into the right side, loading the muscles, And then shifting back to the left.

That gives us good rhythm and tempo in the swing, and it also helps us conserve energy.

Because we don't have to expend the leverage we have in our arms until very late in the swing.

So, any other questions on this drill?

This is one you can take home.

You can hammer a million balls doing this.

You can't do it enough to get the proper feeling of being posted up and releasing the club down the line.

Not that you're trying to.

I'm not certainly trying to move my arm in a certain way.

My arms are simply releasing because I've got the club with leverage back here and I just let it go where it's trying to go.

And that pulls my arms into this position.

My goal is to protect my spine.

So, I'm making sure I post it up.

Spine's in neutral and let the club release and it's the safest way for your body to release the club.

And the fastest is my arms are just freewheeling through.

I'm just letting the club go.

Any questions on anything I talked about today with back pain?

A little 30-minute brief on everything that we typically see that causes the most back issues.

Let's see.

Is this going to be used as the perfect impact drill alternative?

Five minutes per.

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

All of these drills can be stacked on top of each other.

They can be combined with other drills.

They can take things away and do other things.

At the end of the day, we're always just trying to get our body to do the same thing.

And at impact, this is what really the king of the castle really is getting into this impact position with your body.

And the arms and hands will take care of themselves.

So, if you want to do this drill as just its primary drill to learn an impact position and release, absolutely.

It's a great way to do it.

Can you go over the feel of the release?

Sure, Mike.

Tell me a little bit more about what you're specifically looking for in terms of the feel of the release.

In the simplest way I can describe it is the release is called the release for a reason.

Release means to let go.

So, the last thing I'm trying to do is hold onto that club like I demonstrated earlier.

When you see people who move the handle hard left, you're literally making a check swing and holding off the release of the club.

You have to do that with tight hands and then rotate your body.

Doing the exact opposite.

I hold the club with my two fingers and just letting it go.

I'm trying to feel what that club wants to do at this point.

I have leverage.

So, it wants to release.

Go down.

And the toe is rotating, so it wants to do that as well.

So, the release is really freewheeling release.

It's kind of difficult due to tension.

Yep, absolutely.

If you're holding onto the club tight, you won't be able to release the club.

Remember, it's literally saying the exact opposite.

The release means to let go.

So, literally, I'm essentially trying to let go of a club head at impact and release it.

So, take that definition almost literally.

Don't throw the club down the fairway, but it is really important to get that release feel.

My teacher Tim has tried to get me to throw clubs down the fairway.

So, yeah, that's a little bit of an exaggeration.

I used to do that, too, until I had a guy throw a club on a tee box.

And then he threw it about 50 yards behind him and almost killed somebody on the range.

So, we don't tell you to throw clubs anymore.

But, the idea is essentially the same.

You're just trying to let it go.

You will never feel this if your body is doing a bunch of things incorrectly.

If you're pushing from the top of the right, your hands have to tighten up.

If you're ripping your shoulders down, your hands have to tighten up.

So, It's why it's more important to get the core body movement stuff down first, to get into this impact position when the release happens just completely automatically, more or less.

Larry, is the weight more on the front heel when you follow through?

Front ankle is where I would describe it.

So, not quite back on the heel.

That's too far back.

But, the middle of your foot to the middle of your ankle is where you want to pivot.

You don't want to be on the ball of your foot.

That moves your primary balancing joint to your knee.

You don't want to be back on your heel.

That's too off balance there.

So, right over the center of your ankle is where you want to drive that force.

Ian, it's not perfectly static because my body is still turning.

If I kept it totally static, then that would put a lot of stress on my spine.

So, there's a little bit of movement going through, but it's way less than what most people do and realize it's happening in their swing.

Most people we see are doing this, a lot of chest rotation, a lot of hip rotation where their foot's coming up in the air.

And more importantly, what we see more often than not, especially in older golfers, they do this where the left knee never straightens up.

And we have to really harp on getting that leg straight because that's a critical part of posting up and engaging.

That glute and keeping your hips from continuing to move laterally or continuing to rotate that aggressively.

So, you really want to feel that your hips are slamming on the brakes, but there absolutely will be some movement still in the swing.

If the release your limbs are different if you're trying to keep the hands in front of Absolutely not.

My hands are in front of the ball.

In fact, I'm hitting a seven iron and I can launch it as low as 19 degrees.

That's a two iron lock.

So, my hands are obviously still in front of the ball at impact.

It doesn't change anything how you're releasing it.

Your hands are still going to be in front and then the club's releasing.

Any other questions on what we just covered on that thing?

It all makes sense?

All right.

So, you've got homework.

I'd love to see in your next swing reviews out there, guys, that when we're doing this, we're totally posted up and that club is releasing with free speed and effortless power.

As long as you're posting up, you're going to protect your spine, get your joints in neutral, and you'll be a much more powerful ball striker with way less effort.

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Paul
This is interesting for me a a senior golfer with back and right side pain (I'm a Lefty). Given a new knee just before Covid a lot stronger but won't go past a right angle as before. Chiropractor says right side pain is due to the knee replacement, I'm not so sure as had a bad virus off everything for several weeks and guess what no back pain. Last golf lesson my instructor wanted me turning body through towards the target but more importantly wanting my belt buckle to extend forward of the Post line I think you call it. This does seem more dynamic but is not too good on the back. As a new member (days ago) I'm realising this maybe bad advise? Any comments much appreciated.
May 5, 2024
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Paul. If I understanding the notes that may put undue stress on the spine. The hips need to clear and provide opportunity for the release. But, excessive usage and belt buckle extension beyond post would have a tendency to create a lot of side bend which the spine would not like.
May 6, 2024
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William
It is a real challenge for me to get my left hip 35 to 45 degrees open before or at impact. However I've never had my left foot open as much as Chuck does here. This would seem to aid in opening the left hip. Is his left foot the amount we should have our left foot open at address?
August 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William . Take a look at Should You Splay Your feet Video. If you have some limited internal hip mobility. You can splay as much as needed to get those hips open into impact. As long as you don't go so far you start to sacrifice proper weight shift.
August 9, 2019
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William
Thanks, that makes sense. Does that mean Chuck needs to splay his left foot at address at the very beginning of the video as much as he does to open his hips as much as he wants them to be opened? He seems too young to have limited internal hip mobility.
August 9, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello William. Chuck is half made of rebar and spare parts. He was told at a very young age he needed to have hip replacement from all the trail side pushing he did in his younger career/swing. He needs a little help
August 9, 2019
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William
Rebar and spare parts; while not funny for Chuck I must admit this description cracked me up.
August 9, 2019
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kenneth
i have a question about my setup which is frustrating me-- i am bowl legged and i cannot get my lead knee over my foot (for neutral joint alignment to set stance width ) unless my knee and foot are both outside my hip joint. so what should i do? use that and go 2 inches wider front and back or just stay there and only widen two inches for the back leg stance instead of 4 inches?
July 31, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Kenneth. If you can't get the knees stacked at setup to measure out stance width due to the bow-legged issue. Drop a club down from the center of your hip socket and move each foot 2 inches outside the hanging club. You can use a club, alignment rod, etc. The more you practice it the stance width will become your new standard and you won't have to do that every time.
August 1, 2019
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James
Where is Part 1 of this series? I can’t seem to locate it.
July 30, 2019
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Nicholas
Part 1 is actually on the Rotaryswing youtube channel!
August 8, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello James. I believe Part 1 is for RSA Members Only. If you have an RSA Membership the video will be located in the side bar to your left (desktop version) labeled RSA Webinar 2 - Golf Back Pain.
July 30, 2019
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Michael
when practicing the drill Chuck talked about in the video, after I have posted up, if I simply let the club head guide itself and not push against the handle in anyway (or roll my left wrist) , I felt like the club head isn't travelling fast enough for make the ball go anywhere.
July 27, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. The sequenced drill the ball shouldn't travel very far. The goal is to start gaining awareness of letting the release work independently of the body versus continuing to spin/push through impact.
July 29, 2019

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