Q-n-A Webinar 7: June 18

Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, seventh webinar, June 18th 2025

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

How are we doing today?

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Anthony, how are you doing, my friend?

Mark, hello.

I'm assuming that means you can hear me.

Ed, you can hear me.

Fantastic.

Audio is good.

Fantastic.

Hey, David, James, Bill.

Bill, I hope we do better than we did the other day when the computer cut off.

It looks like sound is okay.

All right.

So I'll get up from my proverbial chair.

Well, good evening to session seven of the Q&A webinars.

Same host, same humble instructor, RST Craig Morrow.

For anybody that's done a swing review, you've probably heard that a couple times.

How are we doing tonight, everybody?

Everybody having a good week so far?

As usual, I'm going to let people get in the room and bounce back and forth.

Make sure you can hear me.

I hope everybody enjoyed the U.

S.

Open.

Had a great Father's Day for the fathers out there and the fatherless people.

I hope you had a great Father's Day as well.

I only have dogs, so I had to take care of them.

They didn't give me a card or anything.

I was kind of disappointed in that.

What are you going to do?

So I hope everybody's doing well.

I'm going to let this ticker come through here.

Hey, Stan.

How are we doing tonight?

Chris?

Anthony, enjoyed the carnage at the U.

S.

Open?

Yeah, I was hoping for a little bit more, to be honest with you.

I'm sure everybody kind of has, hey, Ray, I'm sure everybody has kind of mixed opinions on what happened there.

I was hoping for a little bit more.

Um, what everybody think about?

The big topic conversation's been the casual water, or non-casual water for burns on that hole, that everybody basically could see, that it was casual water.

So how could they?

And I have my own thoughts on the speaking.

What are you going to do?

My thing is I had people texting me like crazy, and I rarely watch golf, but major turns on and it's raining outside.

I'll flip it over.

I had people texting me like crazy over that, like my thoughts and opinions on I've always been the big believer that if your playing competitor agrees that it the playing competitor is catty.

If everybody gets together, just like when you hit it in a water hazard.

When you hit it in a water hazard, you're like, OK, well, this is the line of sight that it went in.

I've been in tournaments before.

I'm like, hey, but your ball actually crossed right here.

It didn't cross 50 yards up right there to where it's like, OK, this is a fair place for you to drop.

So everybody was on the consensus that it was casual water.

And obviously you could see the practice swings.

I think you should have got an adjustment.

But going back to my point, everybody texting me.

You get bad breaks in the U.

S.

Open.

Regardless of whether it's a ruling or a bounce, he let that mentally get to him.

And if it was that bad, then I'm going to take a different club and I'm just going to get it up there.

And at worst, I'm coming away with bogey.

Because as I told you all in the first one, don't shoot yourself in the foot.

All right?

Don't compound mistakes.

If it's really going to be that bad because it's that wet, that's not the shot to hit at that point in time.

You can see everybody just on the leaderboard.

Straight downhill.

Steve, I didn't love how the weather decided to open.

That being said, Spong.

Yeah, I mean, you got to give it to JJ.

I mean, he went out there.

Nobody was taking it.

It was like, who's going to step up and do something?

And, you know, that T-shirt that he hit on 17, you got to give it to him.

He said, I'm going to do this since apparently nobody wants this trophy.

Personally, I was rooting for Scott.

Just me.

But I'd be happy either way.

Who would?

Unless it was Rory, but that's another story.

Hey, Charles, how are we doing today?

Burns got burned.

I agree.

And see, that's the thing.

I'm definitely not the type of person that says, hey, everybody's jumping off a cliff, so I'm going to go jump too.

That's not me, if anybody knows me.

Literally everybody's of the consensus, other than the two people that were making the ruling that it was, that's, that's casual water.

And I loved all the, like the Instagram posts later where players are like walking to the same spot, like five minutes later and being like, uh, so it's a little wet here.

All right.

I'll give it about one more minute and then we'll get started.

Charles, Scott, me too, but happy for Spahn.

Yeah, Spahn seems like a big journeyman.

I'm happy for him.

He was definitely dealing with a lot of mental stuff, but I was rooting for Scott.

Who would have picked Spahn to win after five bogeys?

Exactly.

I mean, that goes into something that I told a student that sent me a text during it.

I said, you don't win.

or lose on the first hole.

You don't win and lose on the first hole.

It's 18 holes for a reason.

And especially in a major, excuse me, you're going to have ups and downs.

And if you can take the blows and you can take the blows, you got to give it to him.

I mean, his betting odds were fantastic at the turn.

So for anybody that's into that, if you took Spawn, you're able to double up on your money pretty easily.

Scott, 100%.

I've met Burns and spoke with him.

He took a lot of time to talk with my son when he was young.

Yeah, Burns is a good dude.

I don't know Scott, but I've heard Burns is a quality character.

When you know it's wet, shouldn't you hit to the high ground?

Hey, David, how are we doing?

Well, Ticker's slowing up, so we will get started if I can figure out where I put my list.

So we had a few more questions start to pop in today.

Probably won't get to them because if they get posted three hours before this, I'm still on the, uh, catch up, all right.

So, with that being said, I'm probably at this point thinking about how many that are left.

I'm probably going to be able to clear tonight and Wednesday everything that's up to this point being posted, uh, and if not, then, you know, I'll try to go back and answer people.

So, without further ado, number one, number one.

The video of Chuck throwing the medicine ball down the line kind of threw me off in terms of weight shift.

When I tried to feel like I threw a medicine ball down the line when I swing the club, I find excessive lateral movement and I rotate with a little bit of early extension when I feel like I shot my left hip back and rotate.

So throwing the medicine ball down the line when you swing the club, you find excessive lateral movement, Which is natural because you're swinging something with a little bit more weight as you're doing this.

And a little bit of early extension, and it's probably because you're just firing it a lot from the right side.

I think if that goes into that eight iron video, so let me just I'll demonstrate it.

So if I'm here and I'm taking this medicine ball and I'm firing it down the line.

What you're more than likely doing is, as you're getting here, you're trying to heave it.

Okay, you're trying to basically use your entire body and heave this thing through, which is creating early extension.

And when you start pushing that way, you're going to start to get a lot of excessive lateral motion.

To me, that's not dialing it down to what you're actually using.

Because if I was focused solely on just using my core and even kind of just letting my legs react to this motion.

If I was going here and solely using my core, how would I?

How would I create early extension?

Right now?

The only way that's going to happen is if I'm trying to add all this force from something that doesn't need to fire.

So I've seen people take the medicine ball and go up to here.

And then they're like, Okay, let me throw it this way and they start pulling themselves off their spot.

Because that's what feels powerful.

I think the main thing with that question and that problem, dial it down to what you're really trying to use.

That's why you go all the way back to putting and trail chipping when Chuck's like, you know, make the claw and hit yourself in the stomach.

Really isolate.

What am I trying to use right here and in that motion?

the core?

if I'm just if I'm literally just using my core right now, how would I create any early extension?

The only way I'm going to early extend is if I'm thrusting and shoving my hip this way.

But is that?

Can it be powerful with a medicine ball?

Absolutely, but let's think about this.

We need power and accuracy, and I think that's where players start to get it a little bit askew when they're doing the drills.

Because they're like, oh, power, power, power, power, power.

And I'm like, well, you got to fit on both sides.

I not only want you to be powerful, but I also want you to be straight.

There's no point in having the long ball if you're three counties over after your tee shot.

So to me, That's trying to have excessive force for speed instead of really getting down to what you're using, to have the combo of accuracy and speed.

Number two, please talk about the importance of Chuck's video, counter torque, and the right and left foot.

Talked a little bit about the counter torque last time.

The one where he uses the towel to demonstrate torque, and also the video where Zach Johnson doesn't move his hip backward like Rahm does, and many others.

Players are going to use and have different types of hip rotation or how hard they're really driving through the shot.

There's still counter torque in both.

As I'm starting to move through here, at some point in time, there's going to be some type of deceleration.

So take the snapping of the towel, the towel is not going to snap if I had a towel.

Well, we'll use animal, so animal right here is not going to snap.

Unless I start going back the other direction, that's going to be the only way for him to snap is for me to go back the other direction.

So something has to happen.

There's going to have to be some type of decel or some type of change of direction.

And that's in any motion.

Even if I'm sitting here and I'm trying to add a little bit more squish the bug.

Squish the bug I'm going to use as a power move.

I'm trying to use a little bit more rotation for force.

But even if I'm squishing the bug, I'm fully contracting my glutes.

And this is still acting as kind of a breaking mechanism.

As I get into impact, I'm not manually like just trying to like, you know, drop a lead anchor right there.

But there's definitely still going to be counter torque in it.

So, you know, to further the point from last week, I think when players start to see Chuck drive the hips hard, or use an example of a player that really uses a lot of his hips, they think Gary Player.

They're like, oh, I've just got to keep going like this.

Like that's that's what.

they're still going to be counter torquing.

I'm still trying to get here and let that towel snap.

And so both of them, they're still going to be counter torquing.

With the left foot, same thing in the eight iron video.

If you're getting this rotation right here to where your leg starts to internally rotate this way, this is creating that brace for you.

As this keeps externally rotating, you're just, you're never going to get posted No matter what I do, Unless I do a large hip turn, almost feels like a reverse pivot, I get stuck on the downswing.

Any tips on takeaway or sequencing that are coming flaws?

No matter what I do, unless I do a large hip turn, almost feels like a reverse pivot.

Well, I can understand why it feels like a reverse pivot.

And I get stuck on the downswing.

The first thing is the backswing can definitely feel like a reverse pivot.

So as I'm starting to make the backswing, the backswing is going to be this blend of rotation, side bend, and extension as I kind of start to get into this lordosis position with my spine.

And it can feel like a reverse pivot because so many players are used to staying in flexion and swaying off the ball this way, or more importantly, pushing with their lead shoulder this way.

So feeling a little bit more like reverse pivot isn't a problem, but unless I do a large hip turn, well, maybe you have to do the large hip turn.

We want to create a stretch.

When you think of your fascial lines, we want to create the stretch from this left foot all the way across, winding around my ribcage, all the way up here to the top of the club.

And so as I'm doing that, if I were to just swing back my arms, I'm not going to move anything except my arms.

That's about as far as I can move.

That's about as far as I can move my arms.

Now, for me to keep going, I would have to start to let my body rotate.

And my hip, let me do this from down the line, and my hip would start to facilitate getting that turn.

So to me, It sounds like that you're just actually starting to feel what it's like to actually get the hip deep, as Chuck says.

Hip deep, shoulder steeps.

You're starting to get the feel of actually letting your body move.

Because you're so used to swinging your arms and staying in flexion and getting tight that that's your trigger to start coming back down.

You're not used to staying that centered and allowing your body to pivot for so long, especially even the X-factor guys.

Yes, there is a difference and there is some separation between your lower half and upper half, but there's also a reason why they got sued.

For so long, it was taught, your hips stay right here.

Don't let them rotate.

Don't let them do anything.

You rotate against this.

Yes, that does create tension to start rebounding this way.

But I think for this question, unless I do a large hip turn, it almost feels like a reverse pivot.

Probably because you start to swing your arms and you get a lot of tension.

And instead of.

All right, well, my head's going to start to go this way.

You probably feel like you have to heave it and it's okay to have the hip turn now.

The getting the stuck part to me, okay, I've now gotten to here.

And what more than likely you're doing while you're getting stuck is because you start pushing off.

This way, you get a deep hip turn, you get this glute loaded, you get this right side loaded.

But you're not used to transitioning and recentering correctly.

Because as you start to get up here towards the top, my scapula starts to move this way, I'm going to start to recenter, then move down and move into my side bed.

And you're probably not used to making that recentering motion and then moving into your plane.

You're probably used to creating a ton of tension and then just pushing off this way.

Now my right arm's stuck, and the only thing I can do is flip at it with my hands.

I could be wrong.

I saw a note pop up.

Maybe it was your question.

Okay.

So hopefully that answers that one.

Number four, what causes the lead leg to remain bent when posting up?

Pushing.

I'm telling you, if you can't answer your own question, just say push.

You're probably going to be right.

So the lead leg, remaining bent when posting up, is because you're pushing with this side incorrectly.

This has got too much pressure, or it's got too much weight on it, and you can't get it to post up.

This motion has to be fast, all right?

More often than not, players, when they start to move over to the side, They're so concerned with that recentering, or with that weight that they jump all their weight to the side, and now they can't get it to fire because it's just too heavy.

It's this heavy lead lead.

And so this motion, as I get here, that's quick.

I mean, for me, as soon as I feel that pressure, I'm getting done with it.

Like I'm going right into post stuff.

I don't take a whole lot of time because the more time I take with it, the more I'm going to keep getting this way and the less chance I have of this posting up.

And if I'm pushing, okay, pushing with my arms, pushing with my shoulders, if I'm driving this way, my leg is being told by my brain to not post.

When I have a lot of momentum and a lot of force coming from my top half in the downswing, it is going to tell my legs to turn off.

There's literally nothing I can do about that.

That's built into your DNA.

So hopefully that answers that one.

And if you're stuck with that lead leg, the first thing I'd check to make sure that you're not pushing.

Your right shoulder, right arm, which is driving all this weight into your lead leg.

And that's why you can't get it posted up.

Number five, I'm confused about effortless power.

Do I need to put some effort into my swing from my core?

I don't want the swing to be lazy or non -intentional.

Or is it truly whatever amount of core activation I want to develop the shot I desire?

Well, I think that effortless power or effortless is.

There's only one way for, I think it's a little bit overused.

I think it's a little bit kind of bastardized in golf.

It's one thing to get a lot of speed by not doing a whole bunch.

Take the leverage, for example, with your wrist or using hammer.

All right, I can do this pretty easily and I've got a great force multiplier of leverage.

I'm still creating flexion in my arm.

Letting my wrist get into some radial deviation and still releasing this as I can.

I'm still providing some type of effort right here.

Now I'm getting a force multiplier because of the leverage delivery.

But I think that there's a difference between getting a lot of speed and being effortless, that you're still working and being dead.

I think players, when they start hearing this effortless term, because it's used so much in golf, they think like, oh, all I got to do is just be like this.

and I'm going to hit it a mile.

That's not what effortless power is.

Think about it more like this.

I'm not really doing a whole bunch, but I'm getting a whole lot out of it.

So do I need to put some effort into the swing from my core?

Yeah, you do.

I'm not saying you have to lift 100-pound weight, but what I'm saying is you have to get the core engaged.

Even right here, if I punch myself in the stomach, I'm creating effort to get this engaged.

As I start to load and rotate back and start to feel the stretch, I'm still providing some type of effort.

It's just the thing, you don't want the powerless effort, just as I was talking about with the medicine ball.

You don't want to be swinging out of your shoes and trying to lift 100 pounds, and now the club's moving slower.

It's the same adage when you think about how the club, if the club was tied to me, the club could only move as fast as I'm going right here, and that's a lot of effort.

For a little return now, if I start letting this club release with that.

Now, I'm not having to provide as much effort and I'm getting more return out of it.

So, yes, you do have to provide effort from the core.

You can't be lazy with it, all right?

And it is a good way to feel, kind of how much you're going to give a shot or not, I'm gonna.

The core has to load dynamically, has to stretch, it has to be able to fire.

And it's a really good way to be.

Like, Hey, I'm going to kind of hit a little bit of a lazy shot right here, but this is going to be engaged.

I can kind of govern my pace with the feel, the rotation of my core and letting my legs react to this motion.

So I really, I do like that question, because I think effortless is a little bit overused or misunderstood.

You're going to have to provide some effort.

You can't be dead.

Seeing myself on video, I see that my stance is relatively narrow compared to Chuck and the guys playing TV on the weekends.

How do you determine good width and what are the benefits of a wider stance?

Okay, so the first thing is, is your stance width is still predicated based on your body.

Okay.

So stance width is not determined by your shoulders, by your arms, by your head.

Your stance width is determined by your pelvis, right?

And more importantly, your hip sockets.

Okay.

So if your stance is narrow compared to Chuck, I think Chuck's probably a 32 inch waist.

So if you're like a 28, 26 inch waist, you might need a narrower stance than Chuck.

But our stance width is determined by our hip sockets.

I'm not going to get into all of it because for most of the people here, they understand neutral joint alignment, but basically took away all my skin and left me down in the bones.

You want your body balanced, and you want a stance with where your body has the ability to be able to shift weight, but not have to move so far laterally.

So if you, you can do the technical way where you can take two fingers.

And find your hip socket right here, or your hip bone right here, which reminds about right there.

All right, and what you want is two inches outside of that for any standard shot, all right, so two inches outside of my hip socket.

Which for me?

If I just drop a line down from this belt loop for the first one that I have, it's roughly right around where your hip socket is.

If I drop a line down from there, you can see how my foot is just on the outside of this club, same thing with this belt loop.

That's where you want it.

So you want it two inches outside your hip sockets right here.

And the purpose being is if my stance was like this and I'm trying to hit a seven iron, what's my problem going to be?

I'm going to be really stable.

So this is a nice, good, stable position, but that's the problem.

I'm going to be too stable.

If I try to move any weight, where's my head got to go?

My head's going to go all over the place or I'm going to really start doing some.

Extraordinary motions with my spot.

My stance is too narrow.

Like this in your case, then what am I not going to be able to do well now?

I'm not going to be able to use weight shift, I'm not going to be able to use any kind of lateral motion to help create any momentum, to help create some free speed in this way.

So the stance width is very important for us to be in a spot where we can shift our weight without moving our head too much.

So we can generate power and be in a position where we're stable enough.

So two inches outside of neutral.

Find your belt loops, both feet, two inches outside.

Good question, though, because I'd say it's at least once a week where somebody's like, I was taught stance width, shoulder width apart.

And I always ask them the same question that I've always asked them.

What do your shoulders have to do with your feet?

Number seven, can you please describe lordosis as you transition into the downswing and through the strike?

Does it increase, decrease, remain the same?

It's going to increase and then you're going to lose it.

So as you move up and.

To your position at the top.

And I'll do this from both views, because it might be easy to see the Lordosis on camera.

I'm not sure the monitor is too far away, but as I move up into the top, I'm going to get into this position, Lordosis.

So you can I start to get this curvature at the base of my spine right here?

And this is the position you want to get into as you're moving into extension.

Because it starts to kind of lock all your facet joints, and it's it's trying to protect you as you're doing something dynamic.

So as I move up into this position, I start to move into this little bit of lordosis as I get towards the top.

The question is, does it increase, decrease, or stay the same?

Well, in transition, if you're being really dynamic, it's going to increase.

So as I'm going from here and I'm going into extension and I'm getting into this lordosis, well, what's the first move that's going to happen?

Well, this scapula is going to start to drop down as I transition.

And I start to kind of move into my lead side.

Well, as this happens, my lordosis is going to increase a little bit.

But now as I really start to drive my hip, I mean, if you watch it from the down the line, maybe up the line's the best.

So if I'm right here and I'm in lordosis, as I start to get back into this position and start to get the scapula, it's going to slightly increase.

But now as I start to drive my right side, you can see how my back is starting to get a little bit flatter right there.

So I'm going up to here, getting into extension and lordosis.

As I start to move into the lead side, it's going to increase as my scap starts to drop.

I start to really try to get prepared to pull those ground forces up, moving into position here.

But now as I start to fire, You can see that I'm still working into side bin and I've got my curvature right here, completely safe, as long as my hips are opening right here.

But my spine definitely isn't in as much.

So I'm going to.

Increase lordosis in the transition.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna warn you, don't try to do that.

Your body has all these built-in safety mechanisms, I mean, you know, especially with when you shift weight, with how your hips move, how your knee moves, your body knows what it should do.

When it's trying to support a weight, sometimes you can start to override what it's naturally trying to do.

And that's what I think you have to be careful of.

So I don't want you to get up here and then be like, all right, increase my lordosis.

Like that's, I wouldn't tell anybody to ever do that.

That's a byproduct of just making the transition correct, making it dynamic, starting to take that stretch.

Because think about, it's a good way to do it or a good way to think about it.

If I'm here, what typically happens for better players that most amateurs don't do?

Better players tend to, in transition, they're already going back towards the target.

All right.

So professionals always have the tendency is as they're starting to finish the backswing, they're already going down towards the target, which is creating more stretch.

And as I do that, that's going to be that motion of finishing the backswing.

Getting a bigger stretch and starting to move back and transition right there, that's a that's a byproduct.

It's nothing you'd ever want to try to create.

Because I could see somebody right now saying, Okay, CRaig.

Well, I loaded into my trail side and now I'm going to try to increase my Lord.

And that's let the body do that naturally, by making it dynamic, let the body do what it wants to do, or it's designed to do.

Just checking the screen, sometimes when I see a little text pop up, I get a little bit worried.

Everybody did help me out in the one webinar when the mic cut off.

I have no idea.

So hopefully that answers the lower doses question.

Number eight, I have to force deviation in the downswing.

So for those that don't know what deviation is, that's going to be the uncocking of the wrist.

All right.

Older deviation.

Radial deviation If I don't, rotation happens way too early and I pull, hook the ball.

What I'm working on is sequence supination first deviation, and rotation happens by itself.

This is what I experienced.

Does this sound correct?

I have to play on the course to see if this will work.

But my assumption is the harder that I deviate, the longer I can hit the shot.

Well, the snap is still a byproduct.

yes, can you get down here and try to add more snap?

I mean, if you're if, if you think about it, if you're intending to throw, so I'm throwing for the top, yeah, I'm gonna feel adding more throw, just like the hammer I'm gonna feel, but it's still.

The snap is a little bit more of a byproduct of your sequencing.

You want it to be very natural and fast on its own.

Because the more you start trying to muscle something, you're going to walk a fine line of.

Okay, now I'm using my muscle to make this happen.

Versus.

I'm allowing the club to speed up because of my sequence, which Newton's going to always win the argument on these things.

So I have to force deviation in the downswing.

If I don't, rotation happens way too early, well, if rotation happens way too early like this, which I'm assuming you're meaning you're pronating too soon.

Well, how is the?

This is kind of what I'm confused on.

This isn't going to rotate unless you're trying to make it rotate.

Because as I start to supinate, I start to pivot this way, and my core is leading.

If my core is leading and I'm moving into this position, the club's not just going to naturally start going like this.

As long as this is still leading the way, It's going to wait till its point of diminishing.

Returns to where I start to slow down, and this starts to kind of speed up right there.

So this is still manual.

If you're getting here and you're releasing the club back here, you're doing that.

It could be that you get here and you quit rotating and so the club kicks.

There's 100% could be that the case, that you get up here to the top and you don't use your core or you don't use your legs.

And so the club says, all right, well, I've got no reason to supinate anymore, so I'm going to start pronating.

I'm going to start to release all that energy.

There's a hundred things that can happen with that.

But if this is happening too soon, that's you doing that.

And so what I would do, if you're pronating too early, all right, I would first check your body sequence.

All right, make sure first.

that you're getting back to this lead side and your core is driving through.

And just as I'm doing right here, my core is driving and leading the way right here.

My arm is not going to do this unless I make this do this.

But I'm here and I just let my arm relax and I start driving this way.

That doesn't happen on its own.

So I'd first check the sequencing of your body and then I would do it trail arm only, right?

Same thing I tell all my lead siders.

If you're going to be a lead side golfer, Make lead arm only swings.

You're going to be a trail side golfer.

This is a really good way to get the feeling of why you're doing something at some point.

Are you stopping?

Are you trying to square the club?

Most pronation comes from because you're worried that the club face is going to be open.

People don't trust the fact that the club will square itself.

It's a very hard thing to accept that this club is designed.

To square itself.

It is.

Swung and incline plane, the weight balance between the toe and the heel.

This is designed to rotate.

And a lot of people feel like they have to do something into it.

So you might be getting a little bit of a false sensation, but first check your body sequencing.

Do it trail hand only.

And if you can't figure out why it's doing it too soon, reach out to me.

Reach out to Anthony.

Reach out to Chuck.

Reach out to one of us.

We'll tell you why.

But that's probably what's going on.

Okay.

Numero nine.

Craig, can you talk about tournament golf and swing thoughts?

Is it okay to have one or two?

I might get fired over this answer.

Are there certain swing thoughts that are better than others in terms of brain being able to process during the swing?

Or should you forget about any swing thoughts in a tournament?

Just pick your target and let it rip.

Well, I think there's going to be a mixed kind of answer on this.

I'll tell you my two cents.

Is it okay to have one or two swing thoughts?

If a pro told you that they ever played a tournament, or ever played around, or ever did something in competition, where when they're struggling, they didn't have a swing thought or something.

They're like, no, still didn't think about anything.

They'd be flat out lying to you.

You're going to have those days where you're sunshine and rainbows.

Everything's just flowing.

You're just thinking target and everything's just great.

But especially when you're making a swing change or you're struggling with something.

I don't like for players to have swing thoughts.

I don't like it.

I want them to be focused on what they're doing target wise, what they're feeling wise.

But even feel is some type of thought.

I want to feel.

a little shot shape of right to left.

So how am I going to feel that?

I'm going to feel like I'm just swinging out a little bit more to right field.

That's still a thought.

That's still your brain telling you, oh, I want to feel this.

That's still a thought.

So I try to limit swing thoughts on the golf course to not being a mechanical one.

I try to kind of limit them to being a feel one.

I try.

I'm going to tell you, I mean, I've won tournaments where I've gone out and I've been like, well, I'm rolling the takeaway inside today.

I've got to start setting it off the ball.

My whole thought the entire day, Craig, when you get off the ball, set the club.

I mean, I can remember the tournament I did that in.

I shot 66 and I didn't look like it, but I had to have something to get my swing going.

Okay.

Are there certain swing thoughts that are better than others in terms of the brain being able to process them during the swing?

Yeah.

When you limit them to kind of high level components, let's just take back shoulder.

All right.

So if your thought is, okay, I want to get my shoulder behind my head, that's something that you can feel pretty easily.

That's something that the body can achieve pretty easily.

so keeping it on kind of high level things, if you're like, oh, I want to feel the proper pivot off my middle knuckle on my middle finger as I come down, because that's the fulcrum position, that's probably not going to happen, but keeping it kind of big, like get my shoulder behind my head or, you know, make sure plant my foot.

I mean, there's tons of pros where, Hey, I just, I got to make sure like that.

I know I'm going to trigger the downswing if I'm emphatic about planning my foot.

Ideally, yeah, forget about any swing thoughts and just play target and let it rip.

But I wasn't born yesterday, unfortunately.

And there's no way that you're just going to go out there and just be like, I would love to be as aloof as Dustin Johnson, where I'm just wandering through life like, what's that?

But I'm not that way, and especially the way that my brain works.

Having a little something, it's not going to kill you.

But try to, you know, when I worked with, oh, what's his name?

Coach Mo.

I can't think of his name right now.

You know, there are a lot of things about, hey, You're doing everything in the present, and you're doing everything pre-shot, so that by the time you get over the shot, you're just in autopilot.

Like I've already done all my pre-flight checklist.

All I've got to do now is pull the trigger and let the ball get in the way.

I worked on that.

I worked on getting to a point to where by the time I got to the golf ball, I didn't have any thought other than what do I want to see on this?

Where do I want this to land or what have you?

But I know there's going to be rounds where sometimes you need something.

You need to, like, I got to feel a little bit more out to right field or today I just, I'm really tight and I got to get this back shoulder over here.

So I'm not that naive.

I'm not having one or something just to kind of help you mentally get over that hurdle.

I'm not going to fight you on that.

Chuck, I know, thinks literally nothing.

Definitely doesn't think about his backswing.

But depends on where you are in your game.

As you initiate the downswing and incorporate side bend by tilting your upper body towards your lead side.

So, as you initiate the downswing and incorporate side bend by tilting your upper body towards your lead side, shouldn't it be bend to the right side?

How can one drop the right shoulder vertical?

On the right side and have side bend to the left at the same time.

I don't get it.

Or are we talking about two different things here?

There's some kind of fall to the left side at the end of the backswing, but in the downswing, the side bend must be to the right.

As I see it, yeah.

So when you get up here towards the top and you start to recenter, it's kind of depending on which one you're doing.

But as you get up towards the top right here, you're going to have this kind of falling motion into the lead side as you recenter.

Like something.

Your pressure's got to start getting back to this side, okay, has to, it's got to start getting back to this side.

And then now, as I start to move into my lead side and my pelvis starts to shift, I'm going to start to move into right side bend.

You know, feeling that tilt away from the target.

So maybe maybe I don't know where that question came from, maybe something was written correctly on the site.

But yes, I'm going to feel like I'm falling into this side, or I'm moving dynamically into this side as I'm recentering.

And then I start to pivot and move into right side bend right here.

Oh, you want some Dustin stories.

I can 1000 tell you some.

1001 I was in Myrtle Beach for a long time.

1002 Let's see.

Craig, forgive me if I missed 1003 you covering this point.

1004 It involves sequencing of clearing the 1005 hips.

I really don't understand how 1006 clearing the hips make room for the arm, 1007 hand, and club unit.

If the trail elbow 1008 is pronated and attached to the hip, it 1009 wouldn't take clearing the hips to take 1010 place simultaneously to the turn.

I don't 1011 see any new space for the arms like when 1012 I consciously turn and drop into the 1013 hitting area.

1014 This is the way I see in Chuck's heavy 1015 punching bag.

The hips don't go first, 1016 followed by the uppercut, but they are 1017 connected.

1018 So I really don't understand how clearing 1019 the hips.

Okay, so I think the best way 1020 to phrase this is that's.

Give me two 1021 seconds.

I think clearing is not the best 1022 word for it.

How's that?

1023 Clearing of the hips and providing space 1024 for the release as you come down, there's 1025 two main points.

One, you're trying to 1026 make sure that the hips are leading the 1027 way, all right?

So the term clearing the 1028 hips is making sure that I'm getting the 1029 hips leading my upper half.

Because you 1030 don't want your trailer overtaking the 1031 truck, all right?

So clearing the hips is 1032 making sure that they get out of the way, 1033 which will help you not only with your 1034 swing plan and path, but make sure 1035 that your hips are providing the 1036 opportunity to get to impact.

Now, what 1037 I'm assuming this question is, is saying 1038 of space.

1039 The clearing of the hips right here is 1040 providing me to be able to swing through 1041 my target on my proper plane and path.

1042 All right.

And let me, it might be easier 1043 to kind of demonstrate.

Now I can 1044 understand why clearing the hips may not, 1045 you're like, well, if I clear this hip, 1046 like I haven't really changed a whole lot 1047 of space.

1048 Because if I'm standing right here, I've 1049 got space, and now, Craig, all of a 1050 sudden you had hip turn, it doesn't look 1051 like there's a whole bunch of space, but 1052 I'm also going to be up here at impact 1053 swinging through my target.

So the 1054 clearing of the hips is trying to make 1055 sure that my lower half is leading so 1056 that I can get down here and have a 1057 proper shallow club, but also so I can be 1058 dynamic and swinging through towards the 1059 target.

1060 If the hips don't clear, when you're 1061 trying to create speed, and you're trying 1062 to create a proper plane and path, if the 1063 hips don't clear, think about what I was 1064 just saying about the truck and trailer.

1065 If these stop, this force of motion is 1066 going to happen.

1067 Okay.

1068 I'm going to start to pronate.

I'm going 1069 to start to do something with the pitch 1070 of the club because I'm trying to create 1071 speed.

1072 If I start to shallow out the club and my 1073 hips are just staying right here and I 1074 get down into this position and I'm 1075 adding side bend and I'm not letting my 1076 hips.

start to move laterally and get out 1077 of the way, I'm going to run into my 1078 side.

1079 So the clearing of the hips is really 1080 trying to make sure that as I'm going 1081 this way, I'm trying to get that hip out 1082 of the way so that I can keep this on a 1083 shallow plane and path, but also be able 1084 to get to impact and swing through it on 1085 the correct plane and path.

1086 So it's kind of a, this isn't the proper 1087 word, but a misnomer, you know, Like, 1088 you're clearing the hips because 1089 an element of spacing, it is an element 1090 of spacing, but the space would still be 1091 there.

But you're not going to utilize 1092 it.

Because if this isn't moving, this is 1093 going, you're going to get down to that 1094 golf ball.

Somehow, if I go up to the top 1095 and I don't move my legs, I'm going to 1096 get down there somehow.

So the clearing 1097 of the hips mechanism is to make sure 1098 that they're leading.

So that as I come 1099 down on a shallow plane and path, I can 1100 now release this on the shallow plane and 1101 path.

Because if I get here, 1102 I'm not going to have the space to be 1103 able to do this.

I'm going to typically 1104 take my right side and go this way.

So I 1105 can understand why the word clearing is a 1106 little bit kind of confusing.

1107 But it's more clearing is leading.

1108 My hips are leading the way so that I can 1109 get my arms and hands up to the proper 1110 impact on the proper plane.

So good 1111 question, though.

1112 As we know, some of these golf things 1113 are.

1114 A little bit wonky sometimes.

1115 As seen in most golfers' swing, it's not 1116 enough to call the hands of the boss and 1117 think that the swing will be in order by 1118 itself.

We golfers manage to mess it up 1119 anyway.

1120 Why is it that we let our arm shoulders 1121 do too much on their own and not cores 1122 and legs and doing enough?

And nobody is 1123 in charge and there's chaos and no order?

1124 So the hands roll must be defined at 1125 once, and the body must work accordingly.

1126 But how to get this done like Tiger?

1127 Well, let's go back to the prior 1128 question.

1129 Why is it we let our arms and shoulders 1130 do too much on their own and not the core 1131 and legs?

It's very simple.

You grew up.

1132 So I've got a student.

I've got an 8-year 1133 -old.

1134 in my group, and he's got a fantastic 1135 swing.

1136 And he does all the things that he does 1137 because he lacks the strength.

That's the 1138 first thing.

1139 As you start getting older, and you start 1140 developing muscle mass, and you start 1141 doing everything with your upper half, 1142 lifting weights, lifting a pencil, 1143 lifting the computer, whatever it is that 1144 you're doing, you start to override how 1145 your body would naturally swing that 1146 weight.

And let me kind of phrase that to 1147 you.

If I gave somebody 200 pounds to 1148 swing, what do you think would happen?

1149 Would they all of a sudden try to 1150 overpower it like this?

If I had, if I 1151 was trying to say, Hey, throw this 200 1152 pound weight.

Or would they start to 1153 naturally move a little bit of weight and 1154 try to get their body moving to generate 1155 some momentum to try to throw it?

You 1156 give them a couple tries, they're also 1157 going to start using their body versus 1158 using their arms and hands.

So the first 1159 thing is, It's because as you start to 1160 get older, you get muscle mass, you feel 1161 that's the way, the most powerful motion 1162 that you have, but that's not the way it 1163 is in golf.

Watch a kid, a kid that has 1164 no strength in their arms.

You can see it 1165 all the time, where their body and their 1166 sequence and all that is perfect, because 1167 their brain knows no other way.

To try to 1168 move that thing at speed until you start 1169 getting older and do this.

The other 1170 thing is you sit down in a chair, your 1171 glutes start to get lazy, your hip 1172 flexors start to get tight.

They don't 1173 know how to fire anymore.

1174 They're like, well, you use these things 1175 all day long.

Let's just use those.

They 1176 seem pretty cool.

And so you start 1177 changing as you get older, and you start 1178 kind of molding into this upper half 1179 Chasey golfer.

1180 That's just what happens.

Because what do 1181 you hold the club with?

1182 Hold the club with your hands.

So 1183 everybody's trying to do something with 1184 that.

Everybody's trying to motor it 1185 because that's where they're getting the 1186 feedback and feel from.

1187 So the hands roll must be defined at once 1188 and the body must work accordingly.

1189 Well, I think that's why the first 1190 component, when we start working on goat 1191 code or we start working on these 1192 principles, What's one of the first 1193 things we start doing is we start trying 1194 to retrain you to use your body again.

1195 That's why in the chipping and all that, 1196 it's, hey, we're not going to use arm and 1197 hand right here.

We're going to get in 1198 the setup and we'll get our core and have 1199 a little bit of lateral motion, our core 1200 going through.

1201 Learn how to not use it.

That's why we 1202 first start you trying to get you to get 1203 your body awake again.

That's why we have 1204 the medicine Ball or the kettlebell or 1205 anything like that.

It's because we're 1206 trying to awaken the beast, we're trying 1207 to get you to move how your body is 1208 designed to move.

Because as we get 1209 older, we don't resort to that stuff 1210 anymore and our brain starts to override 1211 it.

So that's why the first thing is is 1212 we focus on the sequencing and how we're 1213 using our body and getting the arms out 1214 of the equation.

And now once our body's 1215 alive and awake, then we start talking 1216 about, okay, well now as we start to 1217 throw or we supinate or deviate, whatever 1218 it is that you're working on in your 1219 swing, now you can start to let your body 1220 still lead, still be the engine, but now 1221 it can work with some intent.

1222 Some people lose that feeling, especially 1223 as they get older because they don't do 1224 1225 All right.

1226 That's a lot of what happens, but the 1227 body still has to be the engine of it.

1228 Think of the 160 yard eight iron video.

1229 So what's kind of the first component in 1230 that is just working on release, getting 1231 these arms and hands soft.

All right.

1232 Just getting this thing soft and 1233 releasing and letting your wrist kind of 1234 be supple.

And re-hinge and hinge, and 1235 just getting a feel for swinging the 1236 club.

So that once you start going into 1237 motion and you start activating weight 1238 and core and drive, that your arms and 1239 hands can react a little bit more to your 1240 body's motion.

Versus, hey, I'm going to 1241 take this stick, put it here, put it 1242 here, put it here, put it here.

Because 1243 we're holding it with our hands and 1244 that's the thing that we're getting the 1245 feedback from.

1246 We could get long winded and very 1247 philosophical on this.

I could.

1248 But a lot of it is because you grew up, 1249 you got stronger.

1250 You're a kid, you're not developed.

1251 So your brain naturally figures out how 1252 to do it.

And as we get older and we get 1253 stronger and we start doing things, the 1254 upper body all day, we're sitting like 1255 this at a computer, we're sitting down, 1256 our hip flexors start to get tight, our 1257 glutes.

1258 Non-existent.

Well, 1259 let's use the thing that we always use 1260 for power and override it.

1261 Hopefully that answers the question.

I 1262 try not to get too zen on you.

Golf zen.

1263 I think that's it.

Yeah.

1264 Next question.

1265 Next.

1266 Can you explain the difference between 1267 shoulder turn and shoulder tilt?

Is it 1268 more shoulder tilt and core turn?

Yeah, I 1269 mean, you have to think about, you know, 1270 shoulder turn, right?

1271 A shoulder turn is predominantly, you 1272 know, thinking about here and here.

1273 That's going to be a shoulder turn.

1274 All right, because my spine really isn't 1275 doing a whole lot.

This is going to be a 1276 shoulder turn, a shoulder tilt is going 1277 to be.

As I'm moving from this position, 1278 my core and my side bend an extension.

My 1279 shoulders are essentially in the swing, 1280 and you can do it with this.

My shoulders 1281 essentially in the swing, feel like 1282 they're tilting.

Like, that's why, as I 1283 go this way, if you watch my hips right 1284 here, so watch my lines right here.

1285 So you can see how my right hip's kind of 1286 getting deeper and higher, and so is my 1287 right shoulder.

See how everybody's going 1288 this way?

This really isn't, this would 1289 be a turn, 1290 all right?

You know, kind of on a 1291 horizontal plane like this, that would be 1292 a turn.

1293 My right hip's tilting back and up.

There 1294 is a little rotation in it, don't get me 1295 wrong, but it's rotating and tilting at 1296 the same time.

As I'm moving into this 1297 side bend, extension and lordosis right 1298 here, so shoulder turning is going to be 1299 predominantly what you see.

Like this.

1300 And I can say center and do it, I mean, I 1301 can go like this.

Think of the old, um, I 1302 think it's the old push versus pull.

1303 Video where Chuck has, you know, the 1304 instructor or student, and he's like, 1305 Hey, like, if you don't want to move your 1306 head, pull your shoulder behind you, 1307 create a shoulder turn this way.

But now 1308 when we add the element 1309 of hinging forward this way, What we see 1310 all too often is that players rotate like 1311 this because they hear.

I got to rotate 1312 my shoulders, or I got to get my left 1313 shoulder under my chin.

1314 I'm sure Anthony's seen it today too.

1315 I've seen it today where players go like 1316 this.

And so the feeling and the motion 1317 is more that the shoulders tilt.

1318 They don't turn.

1319 They tilt.

My right shoulder's getting 1320 higher.

My right hip's getting higher.

1321 And now as I start to transition, my left 1322 hip's starting to work down.

Everything's 1323 starting to get back level.

I'm moving 1324 into side bend.

Now my left hip's working 1325 higher.

My right shoulder's working down.

1326 So the feeling isn't trying to go like 1327 this.

1328 It's actually trying to go like this.

1329 Because it's a combination.

Because you 1330 have to have.

Remember, you got.

You 1331 got your lumbar.

You got your thoracic.

1332 You got your cervical.

And you're not 1333 trying to, like, take your lumbar spine 1334 and rotate it like crazy.

I don't want 1335 anybody blowing out their backs.

It's a 1336 combination of everything that's going on 1337 with the spine, especially with the 1338 thoracic mobility.

1339 So this is the shoulder tilt, 1340 which tilting the shoulders with the 1341 combination of my core rotating.

And my 1342 trail hip working back.

That's what 1343 creates the shoulder turn.

All right, 1344 it's just, I think that you can't really 1345 use that, the terminology shoulder turn 1346 with it.

Because it's a combination of a 1347 ton of things, combination of rotation, 1348 tilting.

What have you?

Let's see what 1349 time is.

It watches it, right?

Okay, I'll 1350 do one more and then we'll, and then I'll 1351 open it up for questions.

Everybody seems 1352 to be liking that one.

1353 All right.

I have two big issues 1354 remaining.

Only two?

Let's solve them.

1355 I'm having trouble with stopping 1356 overswinging.

Club pass parallel in the 1357 backswing.

Don't let your right arm bend.

1358 And I can't stop coming over the top.

1359 Probably linked to the first one.

The 1360 right arm is bending too much and getting 1361 loaded, so you're wanting to use it 1362 coming down.

1363 I'm carrying my eight arm between 150 and 1364 160 consistently.

But I know there's more 1365 in the tank and I know shallowing 1366 correctly will get me there.

Yeah, 1367 that's, I think one big thing that people 1368 kind of discount is that when you start 1369 shallowing correctly.

Just like if you 1370 watch the conveyor belt video or the 1371 magic assumption.

Like, as soon as this 1372 starts to shallow out, the the potential 1373 for so much more speed in there.

With 1374 little work, you get a lot of return from 1375 it, not effortless, no, you get a lot of 1376 return for it.

1377 Launch angle is too high.

Spin number is 1378 too high.

1379 Peak ball height is too high.

All factors 1380 from coming over the top.

Yeah.

I really 1381 struggle with getting side bend in the 1382 downswing.

So let's tackle the first one.

1383 Club pass parallel in the backswing.

It's 1384 not necessarily the worst thing in the 1385 world, depending on how you're getting 1386 there.

But here's the first thing.

1387 What would I tell?

I mean, I already said 1388 it.

But what would I tell anybody?

1389 Their club's getting past parallel on the 1390 backswing.

1391 I'd say you're swinging with your arms.

1392 Period.

1393 It's going to be really darn hard without 1394 me moving my arms.

So I'm going to keep 1395 both.

It's going to be really darn hard 1396 for me to get past parallel if I don't 1397 move my arms.

1398 That's about as far as I can go.

1399 So the first thing is.

Why are you 1400 moving your arms?

1401 Why are you overworking your arms and 1402 your backswing?

1403 Is it a setup issue?

Is it a grip issue?

1404 Is the fact that you're not getting back 1405 over here, 1406 working from here and getting your core 1407 moving, getting rotation going, moving in 1408 the side bend?

So the first thing I try 1409 to figure out is why are you using your 1410 arms?

1411 Okay.

And more than likely, it's just 1412 because you've always used your arms and 1413 you've never really made kind of the 1414 correct backswing.

And so what I would do 1415 is I'd put a lot of onus on the sequence 1416 of weight and rotation and making it 1417 dynamic.

If I'm getting here and I'm 1418 really making sure okay, weight and 1419 rotation, I can really feel my core 1420 ramping up right here.

Well, I'm going to 1421 get to a point where I start to get the 1422 stretch where my body's like, I don't 1423 want to keep going this way.

I want to 1424 start going the other way.

So one, the 1425 stretch is going to keep you from going 1426 too far like I just showed you.

But two, 1427 starting the downswing before finishing 1428 the backswing is going to keep you from 1429 overswinging.

And how to get there is 1430 because you get this so loaded, it wants 1431 to start going the other direction.

But 1432 you have to figure out why you're using 1433 your arm.

Post it up in the community.

1434 Send in a swing review.

Post it up in the 1435 forum.

1436 There's a hundred ways to get to us, but 1437 you have to figure out why you're using 1438 your arm.

I can't stop coming over the 1439 top because you're pushing, because 1440 you're using your arm.

1441 All right.

So this kind of goes back to 1442 the clearing concept with the hips.

1443 If, say I do a nine to three right here 1444 and I don't use my arms.

1445 I'm gonna get my arms straight, not using 1446 my arms and wrists, and I'm just gonna 1447 use my core right now.

So I'm just gonna 1448 kind of go nine 1449 How would I get over the top?

1450 Only way I get over is if I start doing 1451 so.

If I start pushing something with my 1452 right shoulder, start pushing something 1453 with my right arm, That's gonna be my 1454 only way to change that pitch of the 1455 shaft.

My arms can't do anything.

They're 1456 They're tied 1457 They're locked.

They can't do anything.

1458 They can't move anywhere.

There's going 1459 to be some type of push that's causing 1460 that.

And that goes to your prior point.

1461 If you're over swinging and using too 1462 much arms, This is probably getting 1463 loaded and you're feeling like I've got 1464 to do something to get it back out in 1465 front of me.

1466 I've loaded my arms.

Now I've got to use 1467 my arms.

You need to prioritize.

Let me 1468 load my core and my body, get my arms out 1469 of the equation.

And just like this nine 1470 to threes, I'm sitting here showing you 1471 without using my arms.

I can't come over 1472 the top.

1473 It's like I had a, I told somebody the 1474 other day, like when I'm driving at the 1475 best, I literally feel like I'm coming 1476 over the top.

Like I literally feel like 1477 my downswing is like this.

1478 I'm nowhere near that.

If anything, I'm 1479 still under playing by like four degrees.

1480 But that's the feeling that I have.

I 1481 can't come over the top.

I physically 1482 can't come over the top because of my 1483 sequence.

As I get here and I start to 1484 load up into this position, and because 1485 my core, because my legs are leading the 1486 way, and I'm not doing anything with my 1487 right shoulder and right arm, I shallow 1488 it out every single time to a fault.

1489 That's why players that you see back in 1490 the day, Tiger or anybody, and they get 1491 this massive hip drive, what do you see 1492 most players do with massive hip drive?

1493 They ever come over the top?

If anything, 1494 they're all too shallow under plane.

They 1495 have to save it kind of, you know, with 1496 their hands and a little bit of a flip 1497 hook.

1498 So I wish I want to give you like a magic 1499 bullet, but that is the magic bullet.

1500 Your arms are swinging.

It's the only way 1501 you're getting across the line in 1502 parallels.

You're swinging too much arms.

1503 Why are you swinging your arms too much?

1504 Is it a setup issue?

Am I not shifting my 1505 weight?

Am I not?

Getting my core 1506 engaged.

Am I not moving dynamically 1507 enough to make my downswing want to start 1508 before I finish my backswing?

1509 Maybe everything's just kind of too lazy.

1510 And so you just keep going, because your 1511 brain's not getting a trigger to start 1512 going the other direction.

So you're 1513 like, well, I don't feel like I'm at the 1514 top right now, so I'm just going to keep 1515 going.

1516 You have to have some type of trigger to 1517 start going the other direction.

1518 That's where I'd start first because 1519 you're not going to fix the over the top 1520 if.

You're just using your arms because 1521 you're going to load them and you're 1522 going to fire them.

It's going to be the 1523 only way you're going to feel you have 1524 any power.

1525 All right.

Let's see.

What time is it?

1526 All right.

Yep.

1527 There you go.

I'm always going over.

1528 So we got some good news.

1529 We got some good news.

Looking at my list 1530 right here, I think that's there.

1531 So I'm down to the last page of 1532 questions.

1533 Now, I know that there were a couple 1534 posted today that aren't on this printout 1535 because I printed this out last time.

So 1536 that means that I should be able to get 1537 through all of them.

So if there's 1538 anything that I haven't answered, 1539 you know what that means.

That means go 1540 to the community page and put it on, 1541 because it probably means it's going to 1542 be answered in the next session.

1543 That's my thoughts and feelings on it.

I 1544 don't know how you feel about it.

1545 But with that being said, thank you, 1546 everybody, for joining me on your 1547 Wednesday evening.

1548 As per usual, with my friendly helper, 1549 I'm still running this special through 1550 the webinar series that half off my 1551 unlimited group, you can take a live 1552 lesson with me, you can join my group, 1553 you can get yelled at by me all day long.

1554 It's what I do.

My students probably have 1555 a lot of PTSD by now.

1556 They can tell you about it.

1557 But thank you again for joining me on 1558 your Wednesday night.

I truly appreciate 1559 it.

I'm going to do as I did last time.

1560 I'm going to stay after for about five or 1561 ten minutes.

Try to keep the questions 1562 limited to what we talked about tonight 1563 so we don't get too off subject.

I hope 1564 tonight's session was helpful.

Hope you 1565 learned something.

Looking at my list, I 1566 think everybody's going to get answered 1567 because I should be able to finish that, 1568 I'd say, within 30 minutes next time.

And 1569 I know there's a couple that were posted 1570 today, so they'll get on the list.

So if 1571 there's anything I haven't mentioned, 1572 get up on that community, post it, get it 1573 answered before I get out of here.

All 1574 right.

So thank you again.

1575 And I'm going to take a couple minutes, 1576 see if anybody has any questions, and I 1577 will go from there.

1578 Mary, Fred, thank you, Roth.

Appreciate 1579 1580 Steve, you're welcome.

1581 Let's see.

1582 I'm going to go.

1583 Bill, thanks.

Waiting on your next 1584 critique.

I don't yell at you that hard, 1585 Bill.

1586 Andrew, no problem.

Charles, 1587 Bob, you're welcome.

Bill, always.

1588 All right, let me go up here.

You just 1589 answered my question.

I agree 100% that 1590 I'm way overusing my arms.

Body movements 1591 actually look really good.

Clearing the 1592 hips, post-up, et cetera.

Just way too 1593 much arms slightly over the top.

Get your 1594 arms out of the equation, Steve.

Do 1595 literally what I just did right there.

1596 Go to the GOAT 9-3 video.

The first thing 1597 that Chuck's going to have you do is not 1598 worry about face rotation, not worry 1599 about swing plane, not do anything, and 1600 take your arms out in a 9-3.

Tell me what 1601 your swing plane's doing from there, and 1602 then we're just going to make it bigger.

1603 Kenneth, how much wrist cock is too much?

1604 Wrist cock in the backswing.

1605 Is that what you mean, Kenneth?

1606 Ideally, you don't fully load your wrist 1607 in the backswing.

And if you look at the 1608 hack motion data, You're going to see 1609 that players don't really change that 1610 much in extension, and they don't change 1611 that much in radial deviation.

So as I'm 1612 working from here and I get up here 1613 towards the top, I'm going to show you at 1614 the top of my swing, I still have this 1615 much wrist cock left.

1616 All right, Because I want to be able to 1617 move dynamically in the downswing and 1618 have some angle, be able to be created, 1619 especially for me being lead side because 1620 I need a lot of lag or kind of require a 1621 lot of lag.

I would say the vast majority 1622 of players tend to try to overdo wrist 1623 cock because they feel it's powerful and 1624 they feel that's what they need to do.

1625 But if you start going in your backswing 1626 and you start loading your wrist too 1627 soon.

You are not going to maintain that 1628 throughout the swing because as soon as 1629 you load these wrists and you load these 1630 muscles, they're going to want to fire.

1631 So if you get excessive wrist cock in the 1632 backswing, let's say like right here, or 1633 if my hands are in line with my trail 1634 pocket and this club's almost vertical 1635 right here, there's no way I'm going to 1636 maintain all of this angle throughout the 1637 swing.

All it's going to take, one, is 1638 the muscles loaded, it's going to want to 1639 fire.

Or if I add any type of centripetal 1640 motion in the downswing, the effect is 1641 going to be centrifugal force and those 1642 wrists are going to start firing on their 1643 own.

I won't be able to stop it.

1644 Let's see.

1645 Manny, what does snapping the wrist look 1646 like?

1647 So I talked about this a couple webinars 1648 back.

If you're thinking about snapping 1649 the wrist, it's a good way to get the 1650 feeling.

Just grip it down on the grip 1651 right here to where your button in the 1652 club right here would hit your forearm.

1653 And just start first getting this 1654 feeling.

1655 Moving into extension and back into 1656 flexion.

1657 All right.

So you get this feeling first.

1658 Now, once you have that feeling, 1659 make that same motion and let that button 1660 in the club miss your forearm.

So you're 1661 feeling it go from a supinated.

1662 Deviated pronated position.

This is going 1663 to be your most powerful motion, and now 1664 make that same motion and let the button 1665 in the club miss your forearm.

So it kind 1666 of feels like it's coming from 1667 underneath, it, almost kind of feels like 1668 a swat.

So you're not trying to get here.

1669 And then just like, make the face go like 1670 this, like, really get that toe rotating 1671 like crazy, you don't need that.

Snapping 1672 the wrist is going to feel more like a 1673 swat.

With the button of the club missing 1674 your form.

1675 And that's going to be creating the snap.

1676 Worked on cue.

1677 Chris, this was amazing.

Thank you so 1678 much for your thorough and helpful 1679 explanations.

It really resonated with 1680 me.

I appreciate that, bud.

1681 I enjoy working with you too, my friend.

1682 So thank you so much for the compliments.

1683 Manny, at what point during impact do the 1684 wrist snap?

1685 I'm moving from here all the way to here, 1686 all the way to here, and that snap is 1687 right here late.

1688 All right.

I don't want to start losing 1689 that angle and start snapping it from 1690 here.

My throwing motion and my intent of 1691 throwing it from the top starts there, 1692 but the snap happens just right before 1693 the ball.

1694 All right.

I want to save all of that to 1695 right before impact.

That's where I want 1696 the snap.

I don't want it to happen back 1697 here.

1698 You look at the data, I think, don't 1699 quote me exactly on this, because my 1700 brain's a little fried.

But if you look 1701 at the typical tour player.

Like their 1702 six iron, um, they're going to be going, 1703 you know, between 15 and 20 miles an hour 1704 all throughout their swing.

Until the 1705 last two feet, that's going to be where 1706 their six iron is going to go.

From 1707 basically 20 miles an hour to 90 miles an 1708 hour, that's literally right here.

The 1709 last two feet that the club's going to 1710 travel on is going to go from 20 to 90 1711 miles an hour.

So it happens very late.

1712 Let's see.

1713 Steve, 1714 you so much, 1715 Craig.

1716 Okay.

1717 Not sure what you so much means, Steve, 1718 but thank you for that.

1719 So for the last one, could you do a quick 1720 15-minute summary, start to finish of 1721 Goat Code Takeaway Transition Release 1722 Feels?

1723 We have been given such an enormous 1724 plethora of information from hands 1725 movement, core movements, lower body 1726 movements, endless conveyor release.

Can 1727 you, from your perspective, break it down 1728 in simple terms from GoCoat?

I will try.

1729 It depends on the amount of questions I 1730 have, Steve, because I still want to get 1731 to everybody and their questions.

1732 Maybe we can do that at another time if I 1733 can't get to it.

1734 As amazing as all this information is, I 1735 feel we veered from the focus on how 1736 Simple's Tiger Swing was.

Well, see, 1737 that's the.

That's a biggie on that.

1738 And I might actually bring that up next 1739 time because that's a very telling point.

1740 All the detail and the breakdown and all 1741 this that we're doing, it's very easy to 1742 take something simple and make it 1743 complicated.

1744 It's tough to take something complicated 1745 and make it simple.

1746 We throw all this stuff at you about core 1747 and release and snapping the wrist and 1748 fascial stretch.

And it is super, super, 1749 super easy to get lost in these things 1750 versus just like an eight-year-old with a 1751 kid in my group.

This swing's fantastic.

1752 He hasn't done all the stuff that I've 1753 done in mind to build my swing to this 1754 point.

1755 And so I know it's very easy to get lost 1756 in this.

1757 The over swinging, or the over using the 1758 arms, going back and all that.

When 1759 you're working on all these things that 1760 we're doing, I know it's kind of simple 1761 then to say, stick to the fundamentals.

1762 But there's a reason that we have it 1763 structured, the way that it's structured.

1764 Why?

Why?

Do you think our first video is 1765 putting it's not Hey, go blast your 1766 driver?

1767 It's because I want you to make this 1768 simpleton.

What do you think Tiger's 1769 first thing was?

Just going out and 1770 blasting drivers?

What do you do when 1771 you're a kid?

1772 I know at least where I grew up, the only 1773 thing I could do was chip and putt.

I 1774 wasn't allowed on the golf course.

That's 1775 all I did.

1776 And that's what developed my feel 1777 throughout the rest of my game.

1778 So I know it's very easy to kind of get 1779 lost in the weeds with all the terms and 1780 all the technical stuff and all that.

1781 But leave that to us.

1782 Leave all that stuff to us.

That's why we 1783 know that stuff.

I mean, you need to know 1784 that stuff.

1785 But it's structured the way that we have 1786 it for a reason is so you don't get lost 1787 in the weeds.

1788 It's kind of like there's a comment.

If 1789 you go to the homepage, I think it's 1790 literally the homepage where the replays 1791 of these webinars are.

You'll see a 1792 comment that a student made that, He 1793 said, I think for three years, he was 1794 trying to get the movements of the swing 1795 down.

And he felt the same way as you 1796 did, like kind of get lost in the weeds 1797 with all the stuff like this drill, that 1798 drill, that drill, that drill.

And as 1799 soon as he started getting back to doing 1800 trail handed only chipping, even though 1801 it was very tough at first, as soon as he 1802 started doing that, the light bulb moment 1803 happened.

1804 The moment of like, oh, OK, I get what 1805 it's like to feel my core.

and maintain 1806 club stability through here, not doing 1807 anything, that starts the journey of 1808 going through it.

1809 That's why there is no cheat.

I tell this 1810 to my human students all the time.

1811 There is no cheat to this.

1812 Chuck wasn't just born with a perfect 1813 golf swing.

I wasn't born with a perfect 1814 golf swing.

Anthony wasn't born with a 1815 perfect golf swing.

Neither was Tiger 1816 Woods.

1817 Don't get me wrong, his swingers look 1818 pretty darn good when he's a kid, but 1819 that's because he's swinging like a kid.

1820 He didn't have the upper half strength 1821 and his body figured out like, oh, I 1822 can't pick this thing up because it's too 1823 heavy.

How do I do it with speed?

Let me 1824 get my body moving.

1825 So just stick with the process of it.

1826 I said this in one of the webinars, like 1827 when I switched from a trail side to a 1828 lead side release, 1829 I told this to a student that I had this 1830 week.

1831 I got here.

I went to the driving range.

1832 I went here, here.

1833 What do you think I did next?

I went 1834 here, here.

1835 What do you think I did the next day?

I 1836 went there, there.

1837 What do you think I did the next two 1838 weeks?

I went there, there.

You know what 1839 I don't have to think about anymore?

You 1840 know what I don't have to worry about 1841 anymore?

1842 How to release the club.

1843 I don't have to think about it anymore.

I 1844 just went ahead and fixed it, got it 1845 down.

1846 But players get off track and they start 1847 like, oh, okay, well, I've done that.

Or 1848 they do one of two things.

They either do 1849 that and they don't give it enough time.

1850 So they can't get it down.

Or the second 1851 thing is they do it for like a day and 1852 they're like, oh, well, I'm not hitting 1853 it better anymore.

Let me go to YouTube.

1854 Let me figure it out.

1855 It's not how it works, unfortunately.

1856 All right, Vinny, I'll answer your 1857 question, and then I don't know what I'm 1858 going to do.

I'm going to get back to 1859 work and do something.

1860 I agree 100% that I've done so well with 1861 the following program last fall, but 1862 definitely jump in the full swing this 1863 year as I want to play.

Yeah, and that's 1864 the thing.

1865 People want to play, and they want to 1866 play now, and I'm not going to tell 1867 people to not go and play and to not go 1868 enjoy golf.

1869 I think that is the tough thing.

1870 But as you're working on it, as you go 1871 play, stick with what you're working on 1872 and get it down before you jump to the 1873 next thing.

If you just started with 1874 trail hand chipping, if you just started 1875 with trail hand chipping and you're like, 1876 I've got my club championship in two 1877 weeks.

I would never recommend a swing 1878 change before a big tournament.

1879 But let's say you've got to play in two 1880 leagues.

1881 Just stick with your trail of hand 1882 chipping for right now.

That movement 1883 pattern will start to bleed into your 1884 game.

You don't need to go off into the 1885 weeds.

Don't lose the forest through the 1886 trees.

I want you to have a swing for a 1887 lifetime.

1888 Vinny, is it not a feel game, not so much 1889 as a do game, but the doing teaches the 1890 feel?

Well, it's a feel game, period.

1891 All right?

I mean, that's all this is, is 1892 feel.

1893 The whole entire golf swing is feel.

I 1894 think the problem is that players try to 1895 overwrite their feel with their brain, 1896 and they're searching for a feel that 1897 they don't know what it feels like.

1898 Especially, like, I teach somebody a lead 1899 side release, and they're like, that 1900 can't be right.

That feels like it's 1901 doing all.

I'm like, how do you know what 1902 it feels like?

1903 Because you've never done it before.

1904 But, yeah, I mean, there is a thing to 1905 sometimes you just got to do.

And you got 1906 to let things react to it.

But our brain 1907 gets in the way.

1908 Especially as you get older.

This thing 1909 is a killer.

1910 I'll answer one more.

Anthony, the 1911 Mountain Dew is right here.

1912 It's actually a Mountain Dew Zero today 1913 instead of a Diet Mountain Dew.

So don't 1914 worry.

Don't worry.

1915 Last question, Kenneth.

1916 It seems like a lead side swing would be 1917 less likely to swing over the top.

1918 Oh, that's a good question.

Would be less 1919 likely?

1920 I'm not going to play favorites one way 1921 or another on that because I think 1922 players that have grown up trail side 1923 dominant, especially like hitting it.

1924 feeling this, once you get the feel of 1925 this, like that's super, I mean, you 1926 should, once you get the feel of this, 1927 you should never come over the top again.

1928 Because you can feel how much more 1929 powerful that is.

Just go like this.

1930 The problem I would say with lead side, 1931 is it easy to shout out the club lead 1932 side?

Yeah.

But the problem is, is 1933 getting somebody to be lead side 1934 dominant.

1935 because I can sit here all day long, 1936 swing up my left arm.

Well, I can feel 1937 the weight of the club.

My arm go down as 1938 my hips go, shout out all day long.

But 1939 now the problem is, is everybody's right 1940 side dominant.

So they feel that this is 1941 what they have to do to create power.

So 1942 their right side starts to overtake 1943 because they use it in everyday life and 1944 everything that they do.

So you can't 1945 really say one's easier than the other.

1946 I think trail side is probably a little 1947 bit easier to feel for a right side 1948 golfer.

1949 But lead side, once you understand it and 1950 can do it, you ain't coming over the top 1951 because you're pulling it.

1952 Other than that, I'm going to get out of 1953 here.

1954 All right.

Sorry if I haven't answered 1955 anything, but I'm toast.

1956 I work a lot of hours.

1957 And so I got to get this thing done so my 1958 helper can get out of here.

1959 David, Kenneth, you're welcome.

Steve, 1960 thank you for your patience with us and 1961 time.

No problem, no problem.

1962 Thanks to yourself and Chuck and Anthony 1963 and everyone.

1964 Glenn Toast, next session.

1965 Thank you, Glenn.

1966 Okuma, thank you, thank you.

Jack, thank 1967 you.

1968 Other Jack, thank you.

Vinny, good job.

1969 Tommy, thanks.

No problem, I appreciate 1970 it.

All right, now you know where to find 1971 us, right?

1972 You know where to find us on the website.

1973 I'm not talking to you about any more 1974 hand path, David.

That's not your 1975 problem.

1976 I got to rip David a little bit.

It's 1977 okay.

We have a history.

1978 You know where to find us if you need us?

1979 Stop by.

1980 Thank you again.

I will see you all next 1981 Wednesday.

And if you have any questions, 1982 put them up.

1983 Might be the last time.

1984 Might be the last time.