Q-n-A Webinar 8: June 25

Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, eigth webinar, June 25th 2025

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

Can you hear me out there in cyberspace?

Hello, Mark.

Yes, thank you.

You're usually very punctual, too.

I appreciate that.

Eric, hello.

David.

Prior.

Daryl.

Mine.

Chris.

Fantastic.

All right.

Well, seems like things are working.

Job at the desk is done.

Hey, Bill.

I just clicked something.

Loud and clear.

Perfect.

All right.

Well, how are we doing tonight, everybody?

Same instructor.

Same rules apply.

I think, what is this, session eight?

How are we doing tonight?

Loud and clear.

Fantastic.

Well, for those of you that don't know me that maybe are jumping into this session for the first time, I'm RST instructor Craig Morrow.

I will be your humble guide today through Q&A.

And as usual, I'm going to stay up here for just a couple minutes as I watch my ticker for people that are trying to catch the show live, make sure they get in.

Might be just getting home from work or waiting for the internet to kind of catch up.

Once we get that, I will get started on the list.

I'm not going to say it's a short list because it is about three pages, but about half of them, I just looked at them when I was signing in or previously discussed about topics.

I'll just briefly cover those.

And then at the end, I'll do the same thing.

The last five or 10 minutes, I will leave the forum open for discussion and try to give you some live help.

But in the meantime, What's going on with everybody?

How we You want to do golf today or?

See, chipping's easy.

Fred, how many more sessions will there be?

Well, this is the final one for this cycle.

Hey, Stan, how you be?

Hey, Charles.

So, Fred, this is the final one for this cycle.

We started this, well, it actually started with Chuck the last weekend, last.

Wednesday and April, and I've been doing this since the first week of May, so I'm going to probably take a couple weeks off.

Well, I'm still going to be working, but I'll probably take a couple weeks off.

And then, as you know, we'll come up with something new.

We'll figure out what the people want, and we'll try to give it to them.

Chris, too hot in Augusta for golf.

Yeah, I mean, well, I don't know.

Is Augusta hotter than Atlanta, Chris?

I don't know.

Hotlanta, it's kicking right now.

I mean, I guess you're just the tiniest bit more south and east, but let's say we're pretty much on the same playing field.

Sometimes, yeah.

I got to figure out what this is that popped up on my screen.

I don't know what this is.

Because I can't see half of y'all.

I have no idea what this is, and I can't get it off.

So we're just going to have to go with it.

If something breaks down, I'm going to leave it to you all to tell me that you've either lost audio or lost video or something.

Because there's some pop-up on my screen, I can't get off.

Other than that, let's see.

Ticker's climbing, so that's why I'm just giving everybody a couple minutes.

As I said in one of the sessions, you know, what I do if I'm not doing golf stuff.

Did a little cooking this weekend.

Sunday, did three racks of ribs, or smoked three racks of ribs.

Had a little bit of an accident.

Not my fault.

Gust of wind slammed it on me.

So I had a little bit of an accident with my lead hand.

But I did three separate racks.

Did a dry rub.

Did a basic, normal kind of sauced one.

And then did an Asian one.

Tell you what, it came out pretty darn good.

Paul, One of the instructional videos talked about using the visual eyes to overlay one string for another.

I tried doing it, but ran into problems.

Do you have any instructions on the website how to do it?

Not to my knowledge, Paul, I don't think.

I haven't really used it, so I can't really elaborate a ton on that.

Maybe one of the other members in this forum can elaborate.

If anybody knows how to use the Visualize app really well, Paul, put something on the community.

And anybody has any answers for Paul, please go help them out.

That's what we have that forum board.

Maybe that could be a little bit of what I'm talking about.

On the community where you can post your questions for this live Q&A session, remember, that's for you all.

That's why we have the different categories and everything.

Go in there, talk to each other, help each other out.

It doesn't need to be just me answering all the time.

Go in there.

Chit-chat a little bit.

Hello, Louis and Jonathan.

All right, I'm going to give it about 30 more seconds, then we're going to get rolling.

And I don't know, Augusta's hot.

I know Atlanta's hot.

We had three weeks of rain, and then all of a sudden it's like, well, we're going to turn off the rain.

Uh, turn off the AC, we're going to turn up the humidity and make it 95 and boiling.

It's kind of how it works.

All right.

Two more just jumped in.

But with that being said, let's get started.

I know It's been Africa hot here in Canton, Georgia.

Hey, I know where that location is in Canton.

Let's see.

Last time, where did we stop?

I think it was that over the top.

Okay, so I believe this is where we left off last time.

What's the best way, or best, what's the best goat way?

To get down from the top via GDP.

To snap whip the release, make a downswing with no muscular arm pushing motion, only working with the core and legs where everything is working dynamically, effortlessly as a unit with good flow.

Describe and explain and show us what it takes to get all this done to perfection, more or less naturally.

what's the best goat way to get down from the top via GDP?

Well, as you're trying to move into GDP right here, The main thing that you're trying to achieve is starting to get that scapular press as you move laterally this way, because there's still going to be lateral motion this way.

You're trying to get that scapula drive down.

So essentially, Chuck talks about using punching.

or thinking about a punching metaphor into the golf swing.

You would never throw a punch and kick your foot and try to drive and throw a punch at the same time.

There'd be no power in it.

Same thing as if you were just throwing your arm.

You would want to get some body into it.

So if I'm going to get here and throw a punch, you can see how there's a little bit of drive.

There's a little bit of muscular effort right there.

Okay?

And so.

As you're going down from the top right here to get into GDP, the main thing is, is you're trying to take this side.

So I've got my trail oblique over here.

I've got my scap, which is going to be raised just slightly.

And I'm trying to dynamically drive.

All right.

I'm not trying to push with my arm or push with my shoulder or spin or do anything like that.

I'm trying to feel.

Then I'm taking my scap, letting it depress as I'm moving laterally this way and dynamically drive.

So I can really feel my obliques.

I can feel my abs really crunch right here because I'm trying to get into this position just like a punch to where now I can kind of explode, punch through the wall, okay?

So what I'm really feeling right here and what you're really trying to do, is not really trying to power it.

Muscular with the arm.

You're trying to feel just as.

And maybe just do this, like, if you're here, like throwing a punch, what would it feel like?

Well, now I'm on a hinge forward position, I'm trying to drive this down so I feel my scapula, my oblique.

This is a dynamic motion right here.

All right.

I don't want to get here and be like, Okay, well, I'm just going to kind of float to here, then try to get everything going.

If you want speed, you got to swing with a little bit of speed.

It's got to be dynamic.

You've got to get this core stretched and moving, and then this has to fire so that we can get down into GDP, finish the race through.

So for me, I'm really feeling that trail shoulder, trail scap, oblique, abs, drive, drive.

And let me do it from down the line because it's not this.

This is what I see on a day-to-day basis.

I mean, 90% of my job.

wouldn't be here if nobody did that.

So what it is, is this right here, it's a little bit raised right here, and now I'm firing this down.

You can see, and so you can see how my abs are contracting.

I'm kind of getting into a crunch right here.

I'm contracting and firing.

I'm not doing anything with my arm right now, so I hope that answers that question.

The golf robot has given me the answer while the phrase right hip goes deep, shoulders go steep, which we talked about, I believe, in the last webinar, captures a significant element of the golf swing.

It is essential to integrate this with other aspects such as pressure shifts, true, spine positioning, dynamic movement.

And weight transfer for a comprehensive understanding of effective backswing and overall swing mechanics.

Maybe you can elaborate and show this what it should look like.

Well, the right hip deep and shoulders steep, that's all this is.

I mean, it's the same thing if you were going to take these lines, my shoulders are going to rotate around my spine.

And I think that some players are taking this a little bit too far.

Because I've seen a lot lately where players are saying, Oh, I've got to get my shoulders steep.

Then all of a sudden their head starts going this way, all right, and they're like, I don't understand what's going on.

And it's because they're actually trying to steepen their shoulders pushing with this lead shoulder right here.

So you want the shoulders rotating around the spine as your hips are working in an upward motion as well.

This starts to get us into that spiral coil thing that we know, the pressure shift, Spine positioning.

Your spine's not really doing a whole bunch.

Your spine's going to stay pretty steady here.

Move into extension.

A little bit of side bend.

Pressure shift.

You're going to start shifting early.

And by the time you're done with your takeaway, you're already going to be focusing on what you're doing going this way.

So I'm going to kind of leave that at that because we got videos kind of detailing that.

But the right hip, deep, shoulder, steep.

This is all that we're looking for is rotating around your spine.

It's not trying to increase it.

I'm not trying to get you to get your spine.

Because look at what's literally happening with my head as I'm doing this.

An active throwing motion from the top and the right shoulder drive from the top, what do they have in common?

Everything.

If anything.

Elaborate and show us what's going on.

We need to get this right.

Think about what I was just saying with the punch.

And that's why.

I don't like to do things so much in a vacuum, because I think if you try to separate things too much, you lose a little bit of the force through the trees.

So an active throwing motion from the top, you have to think about golf as more like an underhanded softball pitch.

So as I'm supinating and starting to feel.

Like I'm throwing from the top, I'm actively, just as we just talked about, driving my trail shoulder down.

The same thing as if I was doing a punch.

My shoulder just doesn't stay back here, and I wind my hips and now go like this.

As I'm doing this, this is driving with my core to help provide that extra little bit of punch.

So the throwing motion, if you're to think, and let's just separate it.

So the throw would be, This all right, so I'm getting here, I'm supinating, I'm deviating, and then I'm pronating.

So this would be just solely arm motion.

Now what I'm going to do is not make just solely our motion.

I'm going to drive with that scap and make that same motion with my arm and look at where I'm at.

I'm right here at impact, I literally haven't done anything but drive this down and supinate, I'm right there.

Bink.

So it's the combo of using that all together, just as if I was going to throw.

You can't be like, okay, I'm going to get here, click this, click that.

It's dynamic.

It's a motion that way.

So hopefully that helps out or simplifies Is it accurate to feel like my trail oblique and especially my lat are doing a lot?

Of the heavy lifting, Yeah, your rhomboids are involved.

There's a couple other little things.

But I'd say the the main thing people feel is their trail oblique in their lap when bringing the club down to GDP.

Yeah, that's the main thing.

If I, if I had to map out what people are feeling, which, you know, feel isn't real, and some people feel different things versus others.

Uh, the main thing is you're feeling that kind of lat pull down, because remember the lats, especially the lower fibers of the lats, are really responsible for how that scapular movement works.

So when I get here and that lat starts to pull down right there, that's what's really taking that big triangle and driving it down and into my spine, Because now that's going to give me the connection so that my core rotational speed can be transferred.

And you really feel in your trail oblique too, because This is a trail side driven golf swing.

I'm not saying that this side isn't involved in adductors and all these things, but I'm driving from my trail side right here.

So I'm going to really feel that lat and that oblique drive.

This is a very natural motion to make that way to create power.

I feel like I have more control of speed and have more speed when I want it and have less back fatigue.

when using side of core instead of abs and back?

Well, those things are happening, okay?

So as I'm going from here and I make this motion, I may feel a lot of my trail oblique right here, but what did I just show you from down the line when we're talking about the first question?

My abs are really contracting right now.

I really feel, to me, I feel like I'm crunching.

So they are doing that because the abs are going to do what?

The abs right here, as I'm getting lower right here, are now protecting my lumbar spine because I'm going from this big extended position.

So I'm going from this big extended position down.

And when I make that dynamically, I don't want to hurt my back or anything.

So your abs are really contracting right there to really provide some stability in your lumbar right there, even though you may not feel you're doing it a ton.

When using this, it feels like my hips naturally move laterally to the lead side, and I post up without thinking about it.

Am I on to something, or is this not the right source of speed swing sequence?

Thank you.

You guys are the best.

Well, I appreciate that part.

Yeah, you're on to something.

Think about it.

I was about to say if I'm a little teapot, but let's go with it.

If I'm a little teapot, all right, and I just move this way, where do my hips go?

It would be very unnatural.

To stay on this side because now I'm starting to create some compression in my spine, it's going to be very natural as I start to go this way.

Where's my pelvis shift?

So now if I get into hinge forward position and I'm going to do this dynamically, what my pelvis is automatically going to get out of the way?

Right here, that's part of the safety mechanism of what happens when you start to add side bed.

That's why when I see players and they're working on supination and their head starts to drop this way, I'm like, why would you do that?

Like that hurt, like that literally just hurt me.

Like why let your body react to it.

This is natural.

That completely takes all the pressure off my spine by letting my pelvis go this way.

So I'm going to put an addendum on this.

If you're struggling with a little bit of, pain or you feel like when you're adding your side bend and all that, make sure you're moving.

Make sure that when you're getting here and you're working to extension, as I start to move down, look at how I'm allowing, I'm not thinking anything, look at how I'm allowing my pelvis to move.

I'm allowing it to react and respond to how I'm moving and adding side bend.

A lot of people that struggle with back pain when they start doing this, And they're like, Craig, I don't understand what's going on.

I'd say eight out of 10 times.

I see them go up to the top like this.

And then they're trying to add side bend.

But they're doing it like this.

Or they're staying back here.

And they're like, oh, this doesn't hurt.

And then they really start pushing off that foot incorrectly.

I have a Rapsodo launch monitor.

They just added club path.

Okay, so club path, and let's think of club path, the direction that the club is traveling in.

So just picture swing plane.

I mean, that's, and attach angle.

I'm going to go with attack angle.

Can you explain the importance of club path and attack angle and the suggested values?

Those values are going to be a little bit different for everybody.

Attack angle, I'm going to typically tell everybody to kind of err between three and seven.

When you look at most players across the board and you can look up the PGA tour averages, you're going to see that they don't really fluctuate that much.

Now, you know, some people hit one degree down on a driver, three plus up on a driver.

And so those are more specialty, but with typical basic iron shots, You're going to typically see a floating between three and seven degrees down with an iron and club path.

Typically.

Track man a long time ago said if you're plus or minus five within zero, if you're plus or minus five, you're doing okay.

And the big main thing for me is like, when I'm looking at somebody's club path and attack angle and all these things, I'm really focusing on kind of their club path relative to their face angle.

That's what I'm looking to see.

Like if you've got a club path that's two degrees positive.

It's like, all right, great.

You're almost to zero.

Not that you need to be at zero, but then somebody's club face angle is nine degrees positive.

I'm like, all right, well, your face is wide open to your path right here.

So you're always trying to get that margin of error between your face to path pretty tight.

That's within a margin of error, plus or minus five.

The typical rule of thumb with that club face angle is usually you want half of whatever your club path is.

So hopefully that helps out a little bit.

It shouldn't have to be necessary, but the golf robot has me confused.

We got a golf robot?

I want to meet him.

Describe the terms cupped and bowed as the player sees it in front of him for the LW.

I'm going to just say that's left.

Which terms are used when the LW is bent sideways to the left and right?

So in front of me, so if I'm looking down at my hand right now, so let's try to think of like a PO view, okay?

A POV.

Thank you, Mark, for the left wrist.

Come on.

We're golf instructors.

We can't be that bright.

cupped and bowed as he sees in front of him.

Okay, so let's first talk about that.

This is a very quick one, all right?

This would be cupping of the lead wrist, okay?

And this would be called extension.

This would be bowing of the lead wrist, and this would be called flexion, okay?

So from my view or my perspective, when I'm looking down at my hand, see if I can do this.

So when I'm looking down at my hand, this would be an extension where I have this cupping right here, and this would be inflection from my perspective.

So we're used when the lead wrist is bent sideways to the left and to the right.

Yeah.

So that would be bowed.

This would be cupped.

That would be flexion.

That would be extension.

A lot of these angles are really kind of controlling right there.

Um, as you're coming through, if your lead wrist is in extension like this a lot before impact, what?

How is that going to affect the loft of the club, like, what is this literally doing?

that's adding loft, this is de-lofting?

That's why you're going to most commonly hear like, hey, you want to deal off the club.

You've got to get your lead wrist bowed or inflection at impact to deloft it.

If you want to hit it higher, you've got to get it in extension or feeling cupping.

Explain the difference between right shoulder drop and right shoulder drive and why we should do one or the other.

They're both the same thing.

The right shoulder scapula is dropping and I'm dynamically driving it down.

Because I want to hit it more than 100 yards.

So I'm trying to make this dynamic right here.

Just like if I'm throwing a punch, I'm getting ready to go with that mustard through.

The right shoulder drive from the top to start the downswing and get in GDP.

We covered that.

How much is shoulder action?

Well, it's more just driving down.

It's not driving out.

It's not working on this kind of horizontal plane.

It's not working like you would typically think of rotation.

This goes back to our shoulder tilt versus shoulder turn, where the shoulders are tilting, they're not turning.

So it's not really doing a whole bunch.

How much hip and core action, core and hips are going to be involved with it?

The more I draw that way, already discussed that.

Does one of these start before the other or do they happen simultaneously?

Now that's a good question.

do one of these start before the other or does it happen simultaneously?

It's almost simultaneous, but you have to think about when we're doing this dynamically.

As I get to here, let's kind of take like the eight iron version.

As I get to here and I'm getting my weight and I'm moving back up into extension, what's happening first right here?

Like I'm getting so wound that I'm already starting to shift back kind of laterally right here.

So you can see how I'm kind of maxing out and moving that shoulder there.

And so this motion of driving my shoulder down is allowing me to start driving with my hips and core.

So it feels almost simultaneous.

So I'm moving here.

Like this almost feels as soon as I, and this goes back to what I was talking about with the back a second ago.

As soon as I start driving this, my hips want to go.

My core wants to go.

It doesn't want to hang out there.

It doesn't feel good to do that.

I think that answers that one.

I'll answer you at the end, Manny.

Come back, just don't let me forget.

I guess GDP promotes a more efficient delivery since all goats use it.

Yeah, one thing, I mean, I can't tell you, you can see in the room right here, but I can't tell you how many swings I've looked at, Chuck's looked at, you name The common thread is that position.

the GDP spot.

And what way it promotes an efficient delivery.

What does a less efficient delivery look like?

I mean, I could give you a million of those.

How does a good golfer go from a bad one to a good one?

What does it take?

Like pro level or just in general?

Just in general, I'm going to be honest with you.

It does take work, but it doesn't take a bolt of lightning.

I had this talk with one of my students a little while back that people that do this for a living or play golf for a living, we're not doing anything that much more special than everybody else.

We're really not.

One of the things that we're truly doing is we're eating our vegetables.

And that we take the notion of what we need to fix and we fix it.

We don't work on something five times, hit five bad shots and be like, well, that didn't work.

And then go try something else.

We look at something and say, okay, I'm pronating into impact right here too soon.

I'm activating much.

Something's going on right here.

So let me get into position and figure out what's going on with this.

Okay.

Well, I'm not adding enough supination on the downswing.

I'm pushing with my trail shoulder.

Well, I'm going to stay here.

And I'm going to work on supinating and driving my trail shoulder down and into position until I can't do anything else.

How am I going to worry about what the ball does for a second?

I'm going to go ahead and fix this problem.

So how does a good golfer go from a bad one to a good one?

Get a swing review.

Let us tell you what's wrong with the swing.

And then prioritize what you need to do.

You may see a hundred different flaws in your swing.

You may see 100 different flaws in your swing.

But there's usually only about a few that are the real big ones that are keeping you from being a good golfer, and the rest of them is just kind of fine -tuning to make things a little bit faster, a little bit better.

But I think people have a little bit of ADD, ADHD, when it comes to the golf swing or, you know, ooh, there goes a chicken.

Is they either take a lesson, or they watch one of our videos, or they get a swinger view?

Or they get a quick tip from their buddy at the course, or their pro, or whomever?

And they do it and it clicks and they're like, oh, this is great.

And they come back out the next day.

It's like, that's not working for me anymore.

Why is that?

Then you just found a feel.

You didn't really fix a problem.

Or they do something after watching a video and getting a tip and like, that didn't work.

I'm going to go see what so-and-so is teaching on YouTube.

I think people look first at the ball as the barometer because that's what you see.

You get out of the driving range and you see this big white marshmallow, you know, hopefully going where you want it to go, but going all over the place.

You're like, how do I fix that?

And then somebody says, oh, well, it's this problem.

And you try that, nothing happened with the marshmallow.

Let me try.

That's just, it's not how it works.

especially when you're changing movement patterns.

That's why I always, I've given it in this webinar, I give it in lessons all the time.

I'm not saying you have to wait for results.

If you start doing something better, you should start seeing a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel.

Like, hey, I'm doing 10 shots, one of them, two of them.

Hey, that's what I'm looking for.

And I know I can get there with doing the proper reps.

But I think people far too often, Just abandon things like, oh well, then diet and exercise.

You can't go run 10 miles and cut your calories by a thousand and expect to look different the next day.

That's what.

That's where golfers, the vast majority of, mess up, regardless of their mechanics.

If you're working with rotary, you're working with another instructor, that's the biggest problem that happens.

They like to do this and they think tomorrow, like, Okay, I'm gonna have 200 mile an hour ball speed.

And that's not the way it works.

Just like diet and exercise.

Now, if you did the same thing for 30 days, yeah, you're going to look a little bit different.

And that's just what it really takes.

It's about eating your vegetables.

I told you all about when I worked on my lead hand release, like what I did for.

Can we think of supination and GDP as anti-over-the-top mechanisms?

A thousand percent.

There's absolutely no way.

There is no way that if your arm and hand and pitch of the shaft's going this way, you can get over the top.

You can't.

Even, I mean, I don't want you to do this, but if my arm and hand are going this way and I'm spinning my shoulder, I'm still extremely shallow right now.

I don't want to do that.

But if I'm going this way and I'm moving into GDP, it's going to be really darn hard to get any type of.

unfortunate or bad steepness or over the top.

So for all those players that struggle with over the top, always do that.

What's the difference or likeness between wrist cock?

Okay, so wrist cock is this.

So let's just think hammer.

This would be wrist cock.

That's down the line.

This is face on.

cocking up of the club.

Wrist set, that would still be wrist setting.

Okay, so cock and set are typically the same nomenclature.

Wrist hinge, wrist hinge is this way.

Okay, so that would be the flexion and extension that we talked about earlier.

It'd be going from a cupped position to a bowed position.

This would be wrist cock or wrist set.

Some instructors like Martin Hall say that wrist cock is a vertical motion.

True.

And is only made by the left hand.

The left hand, left wrist, is typically going to be the one kind of doing that.

That doesn't mean that the right doesn't do I mean, let's, if, you know, I, while the right, let me finish the thing.

While the right wrist bends horizontally, therefore, isn't a wrist cock and uncocking, but it's called a wrist hinge or wrist set.

Well, the trail wrist is going to do the opposite of whatever the lead wrist is doing.

All right.

So it's going to be hard for me.

If I was right here and I start setting my lead wrist like this, my trail wrist is going to do the same thing.

I can't leave my trail wrist like this and then like, leave my trail wrist like this and then try to cut that.

That doesn't work.

So I understand where he's going with this because he's trying to say that as you go back, if you focus on this hand cocking and setting up, and you focus on this hand allowing for wrist hinge, And that's going to help you kind of get it on plane right here versus being this way or too much this way.

If you go back to, I think it was the hands webinar Chuck talked about, It's why the left hand grip is so important, because once you start feeling a little bit of the weight of the club, it's going to start to set it up.

Most players, most players overdo their wrist.

Now I have players in my group that underdo their wrist.

There's also something called a wrist action.

What might that be?

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know what Martin's exactly referring to, but the wrist action in the swing, how I'm going to answer this, is.

As you go back, this lead wrist is going to have some cocking or setting so you can see.

It's going to do this to support the weight of the club, trail wrist is going to mimic this right here, as I'm going this way, that's my wrist action towards the top.

It's not a ton, but it's just enough to support the weight of the club.

So I start to rotate to here and then as I start to come down.

I mean, I move into supination.

That supination is going to help me retain that angle correctly coming down, And then I'm going to let that wrist action go.

In the hands webinar, when Chuck is demonstrating his forward press trigger pivot, he alludes to how not getting.

Remember, I'm like Ron Burgundy up here.

Just read it how it's written.

He alludes to how not getting the trail hip deep enough.

can be a cause of early extension.

Would you elaborate on this issue?

Yeah.

So not getting the trail hip deep enough in the backswing.

As I'm going back right here, What I'm trying to do is I'm really trying to get this dynamic core stretch right here in this line of power.

So as I start to drive, I've got something to use.

I'm taking that rubber band and stretching More often than not, when players lock, their lead knee or their lead hip, and they start to go back, their arms start to load too much because they don't have enough mobility to reach the top.

And as they start to get here, all they've done is load their arms and hands.

They haven't done anything with their body, but now this leg and this is extremely loaded as well because it hasn't moved.

Think about it.

That's why if I just go like this, not only are my arms loading, but this is really getting tight right here.

What's the first thing that I want to do?

I want to get rid of that tension.

So it causes this not to load correctly for the golf swing, and the first initial sensation is to get rid of it.

As we talk about with wrist set, loading of muscles and tension, all that fun stuff, when you load a muscle, it wants to fire.

So as if you don't allow this hip to work, it kind of works back and up this way to get this proper stretch, well, I've got to move back over to here at some point in time.

If I leave this here, I'm going to typically get too much tension in my upper half right here, but this is also very stagnant.

It's also loading as well.

And so my first move is going to typically be to push right off that foot and drive my hip towards the golf ball.

All right.

The hip work and the core work and all that is of the utmost importance.

I want to stress that.

Because more often than not, because we're always chasing this golf club, we're always trying to find, we look at Tiger, we look at Chuck, hopefully nobody's looking at me.

And we're like, oh, the club's supposed to be there.

And we get so enamored with trying.

to get to said position.

Get to said position up here at the top.

And we start kind of chasing the club.

And so what ends up happening is our body starts getting really lazy when it really creates all this stuff.

It might even be up here.

When I was in Long Island, I worked with Michael Hebron, and he's wrote a lot of different books and all this, but one of the titles of one of his books, without even reading the information or before I started working with him, the inside moves the out.

Well, think of our hub and wheel analogy.

Think of that's exactly what happens.

If you focus on what's going on in here, this stuff's going to take care of itself.

I never think about this little thing.

Ever.

And that's not because of talent or anything like that.

It's because I used to think about that thing all the darn time.

And then I realized that by focusing on that, I could never repeat anything.

I could never achieve what I wanted to achieve.

By trying to make the club go, so to speak, where I thought it needed to go, I was constantly chasing my tail.

versus like, okay, there's one way for me to get this club here and get it there repeatedly.

And if I do this, the club has no choice to go there.

So if you can change your focus and realize that this stuff, the inside stuff, if I get that taken care of, this guy's going to be okay.

And the right shoulder drive from the top is the goal to drive the club directly into GDP with the help of the body.

Yeah, that's all you're trying to do.

Try to drive it right into GDP.

So that when you get down here, you can have your little deviation, rotation, you're right there.

You can see there's not a whole lot going on right there.

Tiger Woods wants a lot of speed in his swing.

Why?

So he can hit it far.

That's pretty much it.

How does he get that?

He does a lot of things.

That also means that he has a pretty fast takeaway as well.

Yeah, he has a pretty dynamic backswing.

The typical ratio that most players are taught is kind of a three to one, backswing to downswing ratio.

Roy's is a little bit different.

Everybody's a little bit different.

When I see people struggling with distance, and I see this a lot.

Their ratios off, like it may be a six to one or even a ten to one.

They're, they're so consumed with getting the proper backswing that their takeaway and everything's just too slow.

It's not dynamic enough and you're not going to be able to create the speed without moving like you've got to move.

And so just for everyone at home, that's a that's a big one.

That I see on my end is that people's backswings are too slow, too slow.

How much does his takeaway influence the speed of his downswing?

He has a lot of influence on it.

If he's not dynamic stretching back, no speed coming down.

Tiger is known for his hand speed in what way?

Tiger is just known for his hand speed that as he's working through here, he literally throws that club as hard as he can.

So his hand speed initially is going to be quick right here.

But I think what you're referring to in this question is his club is snapping right here because he's so good.

At throwing this.

And that's why when you look at the tape on his hand, the fulcrum position, he's just so good at letting his hands, just giving up control and letting the hand 1000 snap.

How does he release the club?

GoAT 1001 release video Tiger releases the club.

1002 Because he works from that supinated 1003 deviated rotation position, so this is 1004 all that he's doing.

And that's why we 1005 start up with the chipping, 1006 keeping the face under control.

And then 1007 as we add speed and we get to the 1008 conveyor belt, 1009 now he's doing the same thing, 1010 supination, 1011 deviation, 1012 rotation.

1013 That's all he's doing.

1014 I've heard that his six iron at GDP will 1015 have speed 20 to 30 miles an hour, but an 1016 impact has risen to 90.

What is the cause 1017 to get that so much faster in a short 1018 space?

Okay.

So what, 1019 This person's asking, the typical tour 1020 pro with a six iron, when they move down 1021 into this position, the club's only 1022 moving 20 to 30 miles an hour.

Then by 1023 the time that they get to impact, the 1024 club's moving 90 miles an hour.

1025 Well, how did that happen?

1026 It's not because he got here and then he 1027 pushed his arm or pushed his shoulder or 1028 anything.

It's because the whole addition 1029 of this whole thing as he's driving, 1030 This is the end of the conveyor belt.

1031 He's snapping the club.

So if you think 1032 of like a car accident, 1033 it's not the crash.

It's the sudden 1034 stopping, which is the bad part.

You've 1035 got all of this built up, and then now as 1036 we start to move down into this position, 1037 it's snapping.

1038 It's because now everything else is 1039 starting to decelerate a little bit.

And 1040 this is accelerating independently.

I 1041 think people try to manually put on the 1042 brakes too much, you get in trouble.

If 1043 you look at Instagram, we get a great, 1044 great visual of a player with a baseball 1045 bat that's sitting here like this.

And 1046 then flinging the bat into the screen.

1047 Because you can see everything's firing.

1048 This is dynamic intent 1049 and then throwing the bat this way.

It's 1050 the same way with the golf club, except 1051 you're holding on to it, that's why it 1052 almost feels like it's ripping out of 1053 your hands.

Give up control, that's just 1054 because he's releasing it.

I was 1055 wondering if you could describe what you 1056 feel right before and during transition.

1057 I'm not sure that this is something 1058 easily described.

True.

1059 But hope you can try to share.

1060 Do you feel the weight of the club start 1061 to drop?

1062 Is your body starting to rotate?

1063 Or is there a feeling of just letting 1064 gravity get your downswing started?

Do 1065 you feel that is an actual downswing or 1066 more of a fall and then release?

Do you 1067 feel like you give up control of the 1068 swing?

1069 When you get it back to release properly, 1070 I feel like I give up control down here, 1071 but not at the top.

1072 I feel that from the takeaway to impact, 1073 I'm forcing my swing and losing a lot of 1074 speed doing it.

1075 To me, it sounds like you are forcing it 1076 with your arms.

1077 I think that if you could explain what 1078 you feel, I might have a better 1079 understanding and hope this makes sense.

1080 Well, This still kind of comes back to a 1081 little bit of feeling real, because what 1082 I feel may not be the exact same, but 1083 I'll relate it to you this way.

1084 This is, I don't know what this is.

It's 1085 a pitching wedge.

I'm going to move this.

1086 So I've got a pitching wedge right here.

1087 Let's say I'm trying to hit this 50 yards 1088 with a puller sling.

So I'm setting up 1089 right here and I'm getting set up.

1090 I really don't feel.

This to me feels 1091 like falling.

1092 I don't feel a whole bunch right there.

I 1093 mean, obviously, I've got a few reps 1094 under my belt.

But as I start to load a 1095 little bit and rotate, I'm kind of just 1096 letting my arms, my trail shoulder, I 1097 feel a little bit of supination right 1098 there.

But I literally feel like it's 1099 just kind of falling as my core is 1100 getting out of the way.

1101 Now, I don't want to motor the swing with 1102 my arms.

And I don't want to motor it by 1103 pushing on my trail shoulder or anything 1104 like that.

1105 But if I was going to take even the same 1106 stance, if I was going to take that 50 1107 -yard wedge and hit it a little bit harder 1108 like that, I feel more of an active drive 1109 this way to get my hips to get a little 1110 bit more snap.

1111 Now, that's creating that extra speed.

I 1112 think I just burnt the rubber.

1113 That extra speed isn't because of me 1114 being big and strong.

I can promise you 1115 that's not the case.

It's just with me 1116 doing it with a little bit more intent.

1117 I'm sitting making lazy swings and all 1118 that.

1119 I'm still doing this.

1120 I just don't feel it a whole bunch.

I've 1121 done it enough times, but I literally 1122 feel like it's almost just falling as my 1123 core is getting out of the way.

If I'm 1124 trying to put some mustard on it, I can 1125 promise you I'm not getting here and just 1126 being la la la la la la.

I can't get the 1127 speed on it.

I'm going to be doing it 1128 with intent, so just like with the punch.

1129 Okay, 1130 I don't really feel like I'm doing it, 1131 but as soon as I go like that, I can feel 1132 some dynamic activation right there.

1133 So hopefully to answer your question, I 1134 think by reading your notes, you are 1135 trying to force it too much by reading 1136 your notes.

1137 I think that you start a little bit 1138 getting the feel of the supination and 1139 conveyor belt, so you get a little bit of 1140 that effortless power.

And then as you 1141 start to make the body more dynamic, it's 1142 still staying pretty chilled, but you'll 1143 start to feel how this moves a little 1144 quicker, this moves a little quicker.

1145 Everything just kind of picks up a little 1146 bit more.

It's not because, just like 1147 when I was picking up the speed right 1148 there, it's not because I went from zero 1149 to 100 just trying to drive my shoulder.

1150 I could feel activation and it wasn't 1151 crazy.

1152 So I would start with getting the feel 1153 and feeling the speed and feeling the 1154 rotation, and then gradually add it in.

1155 More often than not, you're probably 1156 overworking the arms because that's what 1157 everybody does.

They overwork the arm and 1158 that trail shoulder.

1159 So I would lean a little bit more towards 1160 getting up here, getting that pressure.

1161 This needs to be a movement, but it 1162 doesn't have to be.

1163 especially at first, like this.

1164 I'm going to blow something out.

It 1165 doesn't need to be like that.

1166 I'm struggling with really defining the 1167 wrist set on chips and pitch.

1168 I maintain the same position with my 1169 hands for both of these shots.

After a 1170 slight forward press, 1171 Chuck mentions an early set at the top of 1172 the backswing for these.

Can you really 1173 define this or really show it?

Well, all 1174 Chuck is saying the difference in the 1175 pitch and the chip.

So in the chip, You 1176 really, there's really not a whole bunch 1177 going on.

So when I get set up here and 1178 hit a chip, I get a little forward press.

1179 This angle and this structure are staying 1180 the same in my trail rest right here, so 1181 if you're looking at this from face on 1182 right here, this structure really isn't.

1183 There's nothing changing with this.

As I 1184 start to go to a pitch, different type of 1185 shot, different distance, there is going 1186 to be more of the cocking or setting, or 1187 radial deviation, if you want to get, and 1188 more of the wrist hinging extension or 1189 cupping.

1190 All right.

So there's going to be a 1191 little bit more of this and a little bit 1192 more of this because you've got to get 1193 that club to work up.

All right.

So 1194 you've got to get that club.

1195 To work up.

Because what you don't want 1196 to do in a pitch is start taking your 1197 arms way up here.

Because now you've got 1198 to get them back down.

What you're trying 1199 to do is you're trying to get that club 1200 or keeping your arms and hands relatively 1201 low, And you're trying to get this up, so 1202 you have a lot more leverage to work with 1203 as you come down.

Because this is going 1204 to allow you to really get your hands 1205 forward so you can hit a proper pitch 1206 shot.

1207 This is a couple.

Months ago, uh, 1208 somebody wanted a short game lesson.

And 1209 when I was sitting there showing them 1210 that and I'll just do it right here, it 1211 goes to the wall, goes to the wall.

Um, 1212 and I was showing them that as I was 1213 going through here with my little pitch.

1214 They're like, well, as you're doing that, 1215 Like, you're pretty aggressive.

I'm like, 1216 yeah, I want to have a little bit of 1217 speed in there because that's going to 1218 help me get good spin.

It's going to help 1219 me have a lot of good control in there.

1220 But if you want good spin and 1221 compression, you got to do it with a 1222 little bit of speed.

I'm not really lazy 1223 about that.

So once I have that leverage 1224 in my wrist, I really get that going 1225 through.

But if I started to lift my arms 1226 up this way, now I can't be aggressive.

1227 Now I can't, I've got to wait on getting 1228 back down here and doing that.

I'm trying 1229 to get my wrist.

1230 cocking, Hinging back sooner?

So that now 1231 I can take that core and drive it through 1232 and really get some good compression on 1233 it and do it with some speed.

So I can 1234 get a good spin-off.

1235 Could you walk through what actually 1236 initiates it?

1237 Is it the lead shoulder pressing down and 1238 into the trail hip?

And how should the 1239 arms move with that just going along with 1240 the turn?

You don't push the lead 1241 shoulder down.

The shoulder just rotates 1242 around the spine as the trailer is going 1243 this way.

I don't think that was part of 1244 that question.

1245 I used to get my hands stuck behind me, 1246 so I'm trying to keep them more in front.

1247 When I do it, it either feels like I'm 1248 just lifting the arms or losing depth.

It 1249 can feel like at first when your arms are 1250 staying with your chest.

When I first 1251 started keeping my arms in front of my 1252 body, it literally felt like I was just 1253 lifting them straight up.

1254 Because I was so used to swinging them 1255 across my chest that it literally felt 1256 like I was just taking it straight up.

1257 I've tried the wall drill, glass plane 1258 feel, but it hasn't clicked.

Any other 1259 feel of drills?

1260 Okay, so I'm going to take that as being 1261 with kind of the feel takeaway-wise.

1262 If you solely.

Just use a little bit of 1263 weight shift and a little bit of core 1264 rotation.

You're going to be 90% done 1265 with your takeaway.

1266 I mean, I think that's one of the big 1267 things is when I'm right here, when I'm 1268 setting up and getting ready to go, if I 1269 get a little bit of weight and I get a 1270 little bit of core rotation right here, 1271 not pushing, not doing.

1272 This right here, look at how far I 1273 haven't done anything yet.

All I've done 1274 is just shift weight and use my core.

I 1275 haven't moved my arm.

My wrist hasn't 1276 changed.

My elbow has nothing's literally 1277 changed this point, and I'm literally 1278 almost saying to my takeaway there's that 1279 little bit of set that's going to happen 1280 now that my hand has felt a little bit of 1281 the club.

Like, I haven't done anything 1282 to here.

I'm not trying to do anything.

1283 I'm just a little bit of weight and 1284 rotation, that's it.

And I'm not trying 1285 to get this here.

I'm not trying to force 1286 this.

I'm trying to first get some 1287 weight, get some lateral motion, Get some 1288 rotation in there.

If I literally do 1289 nothing, just get a little weight in 1290 rotation.

That's where my club is.

I'm 1291 not trying to force this down.

I'm not 1292 trying to push it up this way.

I'm just 1293 rotating around my spine.

And more 1294 players tend to push and flatten out 1295 their turns.

That's the only reason we 1296 say keep that left shoulder down is 1297 because we see all the time players just 1298 take their lead arm and push across this 1299 way.

1300 This is just working down as this 1301 shoulder is working up and this hip is 1302 working back.

Takeaway is done.

Don't 1303 have to do anything.

1304 Having trouble with overswinging, 1305 collapsing wrist at the top?

I think this 1306 is because I'm trying to keep my wrist 1307 and grip loose.

Any clarification on how 1308 to prevent both?

Don't be too loosey 1309 -goosey.

1310 The wrists aren't dead in this one.

1311 There's a difference between being dead 1312 and loose.

1313 So you want your hands.

There's going to 1314 be pressure here, and it's going to 1315 naturally increase for everyone.

I don't 1316 want to have pressure initially right 1317 here.

The pressure spikes at different 1318 points in the swing.

1319 But this pressure right here, that's why 1320 you'll hear most players say, like, keep 1321 a constant pressure.

It's going to 1322 change.

If your grip is too loose and 1323 your wrists are too loose, these things 1324 are just going to be too floppy around 1325 here.

I still want a little bit of 1326 control here.

That's why when you get 1327 your trail grip on properly right here, I 1328 feel some control over that.

Like I kind 1329 of have a little bit of sense of 1330 awareness of where my club is.

If it's on 1331 correctly and if it's in the right 1332 pressure point, I would really check out 1333 that middle finger.

1334 But overswing, all that's going to be 1335 coming from is pushing from this side.

1336 And you may be too loose with your wrist 1337 where you're just letting them kind of 1338 dangle like this.

1339 Whereas you're not maintaining any 1340 structure.

And what I would do is I'd 1341 really focus on the right hand goat grip 1342 portion.

1343 And I would make a lot of trail hand only 1344 swings and see what happens.

If you get 1345 up here and you're like this, You've got 1346 to work on kind of increasing a little 1347 bit of pressure in here as you're moving 1348 your body to maintain that structure.

You 1349 could be a little bit too light, as they 1350 would say.

1351 Last one on my list.

And then I will go 1352 to the.

Screen.

No matter what I try, 1353 rotate with the core.

1354 Read this way.

No matter what I try, 1355 rotate with the core, pull the left leg 1356 back, 1357 shift laterally.

Well, hopefully we're 1358 shifting laterally before you're pulling 1359 the left leg back.

Just saying.

1360 I seem to early extent.

Any common causes 1361 and secrets to help that?

That might be 1362 what it is if you're not getting back 1363 over there laterally.

I mean, there's a 1364 lot of different causes from early 1365 extension.

I mean, we'd be here for a 1366 long time.

1367 But most of the time with this early 1368 extension devil is first going in the 1369 backswing, as we were talking about 1370 earlier.

1371 A lot of the players that I see struggle 1372 with early extension.

1373 They don't get proper hip turn here.

1374 So loading this correctly, that's the 1375 first thing.

Let's get this loaded 1376 correctly as we go back.

It's kind of 1377 like if I load this correctly, why would 1378 I naturally go like that on the 1379 downswing?

That wouldn't make any sense.

1380 My brain's not going to do that.

That 1381 wouldn't make any sense.

I'm going to 1382 really lose my balance.

Your brain's 1383 always trying to find some type of 1384 balance.

The first thing is getting this 1385 depth here.

1386 Once you have that depth here, what's 1387 causing that early extension?

1388 Well, if I got the depth here and I start 1389 to shift back laterally and I'm moving 1390 into side bend, now this hip's working 1391 back behind me.

1392 I'm not pushing this way.

1393 And so I think there was the old adage of 1394 kind of the dropping the ball.

1395 And where players are here, drop the 1396 ball.

Like, you know, get this wide right 1397 here.

1398 I want to feel like everything's getting 1399 tighter.

I want to feel like as I'm 1400 moving, I'm getting this deeper.

My legs 1401 are getting tighter right here because I 1402 want to get these adductors firing, and I 1403 want to get this hip open to create a lot 1404 of speed.

1405 So if you're struggling with early 1406 extension, you know, said question 1407 person, the first thing I would check is 1408 your lines here.

You're loading this 1409 correctly.

So that you're not doing just 1410 the arms, or getting this too front 1411 loaded, or getting that too loaded and 1412 just wanting to push that way.

I would 1413 just make some air swings like this.

Get 1414 your trail hip going this way.

1415 Put your hand on your left hip right here 1416 or in front of your lead hip.

1417 Start to move back laterally and just 1418 push it back.

1419 That's the feeling to not have early 1420 extension.

I'm going to more often than 1421 not see players, they're already going 1422 like this in the backswing or They're 1423 taking over with their arms.

This is so 1424 stagnant and gets so loaded that the only 1425 thing that wants to happen is this.

1426 Because it didn't feel right.

1427 Okay?

1428 So hopefully that helps out a little bit.

1429 So that was actually the end of the list.

1430 Eight weeks got to the end of the list.

I 1431 knew I could get there.

I just had to 1432 speed it up just a little bit.

1433 So with that being said, I'm going to 1434 take five or ten minutes, help out on the 1435 forum questions.

I thank you, everybody, 1436 for joining me in these sessions.

I hope 1437 that you've enjoyed them and learned a 1438 lot.

1439 Don't copy my golf swing.

Copy Tigers or 1440 Chucks.

Don't watch mine too much.

But I 1441 hope you've learned a lot.

I hope for the 1442 players that.

Ask questions.

They got 1443 their answers.

If not, I'm still going to 1444 be around on the community.

I'm still 1445 going to put a pop-up on the screen.

This 1446 is the last session.

I'm still offering 1447 half off my unlimited group for the first 1448 month.

1449 Discount on a live lesson if you want.

1450 I'm going to put that up on the screen.

1451 And I truly appreciate everybody for 1452 stopping by.

1453 I hope you enjoyed it.

I hope it was 1454 worth it.

1455 I hope that everybody got something out 1456 of it.

1457 And feel free, if you still have any 1458 questions, 1459 you know where to find me.

Check out one 1460 of those pop-ups.

1461 As I tell everybody, I truly appreciate 1462 the opportunity to help teach you.

1463 And we're going to definitely do some 1464 more sessions.

I don't know how they're 1465 going to be structured or what they're 1466 going to be.

We're going to take a little 1467 bit of a break, or I'm going to take a 1468 little bit of a break.

And I'll get with 1469 the mad scientist and see what's going on 1470 in that neck of the woods.

But thank you 1471 again.

I truly hope that you've enjoyed 1472 these.

And I truly hope that everybody's 1473 gotten their question answered.

If you 1474 haven't, we're still here.

I'm not going 1475 anywhere.

1476 I'm going to hang out.

If you've got kids 1477 or want to go eat or go have a drink, go 1478 have that.

You can watch it on a replay.

1479 But for right now, for those of you that 1480 hunkered down staying live.

1481 What do you got for me?

1482 Let's see.

1483 I'm going to have to scroll up back up 1484 here on this.

1485 Where are we right here?

1486 All right.

I'm going to start.

If I 1487 didn't get to you, Just remember, this is 1488 where I started because you all see this 1489 much better than I do, because I have 1490 this thing on my screen.

1491 Mark, this has been the best session yet.

1492 Thank you.

I appreciate that.

But Carol, 1493 can you go over the trail arm?

Pit to the 1494 sky.

Does this help from keeping from, 1495 does this help keep from taking the club 1496 inside extension?

I remember Chuck going 1497 over that.

Can't remember which video.

We 1498 have the right elbow pit.

We got a ton of 1499 videos.

Yes.

This elbow pit and this 1500 trail arm needs to be facing out away 1501 from the golfer and towards the sky when 1502 you get this grip.

But I see.

All too 1503 often, as players are pronated like this, 1504 where their elbows are going this way.

1505 And so when they start to use their 1506 swing, they kind of get this lawnmower 1507 motion going.

This helps a keep the arm 1508 straight, helps you keep the connection, 1509 so as you rotate right here.

But now I've 1510 got this structure, all I've got to do is 1511 move a little weight and move a little 1512 rotation.

This is going to go here every 1513 single time.

Now the structure is here.

1514 So I want this trail level pit facing 1515 away, I want to maintain that all the way 1516 to the top.

It's going to help me get 1517 into proper external rotation, proper set 1518 position.

1519 No problem.

1520 Richard, thank you very much.

Fred, thank 1521 you.

1522 Brian, I appreciate that.

1523 Tim, thank you, thank you.

Jack, you're 1524 welcome.

1525 All right, Lee.

1526 When I try to do the eight iron drill 1527 video, I found that my lower back started 1528 hurting.

Can you show me some things that 1529 could be causing that?

I'm sure I'm doing 1530 it wrong.

If your back's hurting, you're 1531 doing it wrong.

You know how we are.

And 1532 thank you for the compliments, Lee.

1533 Let my boss know.

1534 Mad sciences.

1535 So as we go from here, if your back is 1536 hurting, if you're working the 8-iron, 1537 And I'm trying to, I mean, I'm kind of 1538 picturing your swing right now.

I think 1539 that's going to really go into what I was 1540 talking about earlier.

As you're moving 1541 from here and into this position, you're 1542 probably going this way.

So you're 1543 probably getting here as you're starting 1544 to shift, and you're probably tilting 1545 your head back away from it, which is 1546 creating excessive side bend right there.

1547 And your pelvis doesn't have enough time 1548 to get back here open.

Think about like 1549 the tennis shot to kind of keep you safe.

1550 But if I were to go like.

1551 This from here, that's going to create.

1552 So I'd imagine you're probably getting 1553 here.

And as you're doing that, you're 1554 going like this.

That's going to create a 1555 ton of pressure on the spot.

It's got to 1556 be more like that.

See how I'm still kind 1557 of stacked, essentially?

Like my head 1558 isn't back here over my trail foot.

It's 1559 probably what's going on when you're 1560 making that transition.

1561 Let's see.

1562 Stan, thank you.

I appreciate that.

Bob?

1563 Thank you, thank you.

1564 It's been my pleasure.

In teaching myself 1565 how to draw the ball, I set up with a 1566 closed stance leading to a flat back 1567 swing and over-the-top downswing.

You 1568 have to still supinate and swing along 1569 your feet.

So what happened is when, 1570 Kenneth, when you try to hit a draw, this 1571 is why it gets a little dicey adjusting 1572 your setup too much.

As you set up your 1573 stance like this, you're looking at your 1574 target that way, and you don't see how 1575 this is going to get the club there, so 1576 you started swinging.

Down this target, 1577 line towards the target, instead of 1578 supinating and staying on your footpath, 1579 coming down and trusting that it'll 1580 square.

It's a very common thing.

1581 Can you send the half off?

Live session, 1582 I think, is a discounted one.

It's half 1583 off for unlimited.

1584 It's somewhere.

It should be on the 1585 screen somewhere.

1586 Anything that somebody can't click or 1587 it's not working, I'll get it to you.

1588 Somehow this thing just jumps straight 1589 down.

1590 Hi, Chris.

Craig, same thing.

1591 It says it can't be reached.

1592 Huh.

1593 Well, my apologies on that one.

For 1594 anybody the link isn't working, my 1595 apologies.

I'm just the golf guy.

1596 Please email cs at rotary swing dot com.

1597 All right, cs.

1598 Half my initials.

CS at RotarySwing.

com.

1599 They will get you the link.

My apologies.

1600 I only know what I'm doing.

1601 Kevin, thank you, thank you.

You know I 1602 can't say that in this area.

1603 Fred, in phase four, is Chuck working his 1604 way up the bag of the driver?

Absolutely.

1605 Everybody wants goat driver.

I promise 1606 you it is coming.

But the mad scientist 1607 does not like to release things that he 1608 does.

That he doesn't have all the bells 1609 and whistles perfect for the members.

1610 I've been trying to make a longer 1611 straighter takeaway and a shorter 1612 backswing, which seems to reduce over the 1613 top.

Am I in the right direction?

A 1614 longer straighter takeaway and shorter 1615 backswing.

Or a shorter backswing will 1616 help.

1617 Longer straighter takeaway.

Just remember 1618 that the takeaway isn't straight.

1619 You're feeling the club going this way, 1620 but I think this is where some players 1621 get in trouble.

1622 So I'm going this way.

1623 Here's my takeaway.

1624 You're feeling like your club's going 1625 that way, but you don't want to actually 1626 push it out that way because now I'm 1627 going to move too much this way.

Now I'm 1628 going to struggle.

Now I'm going to get 1629 flat.

Now as I start to go this way, I'm 1630 going to have to really do something, but 1631 that's not going to feel normal.

I'm 1632 going to typically go this way.

But yes, 1633 if you get your takeaway balanced out and 1634 this is nice and buttoned up, well, now 1635 all you got to do is just tip the shaft a 1636 little bit as you drive down.

1637 Really shouldn't come out with that.

1638 Paul, Can you provide any insight on 1639 reasonable expectations for distance 1640 increase in driver and how long it takes?

1641 My present distance is 200 yards.

Pretty 1642 frustrating.

1643 Depends on what you're doing, Paul.

1644 I wish I could give you a better answer 1645 on that.

1646 Depends on what you're doing.

1647 The most common things I see from getting 1648 that big jump.

1649 It's lack of release or lack of proper 1650 release, and it's lack of getting proper 1651 wind in the backswing.

So I'd go take a 1652 look at those two things.

If you're not 1653 getting, you know, starting to get the 1654 jump that you want, make sure that you 1655 are coiling correctly and make sure 1656 you're releasing it.

That's a lot of the 1657 battle.

1658 But that's tough to answer on.

There's 1659 age, swings, all sorts of things that 1660 kind of go into that.

1661 Jonathan, thanks.

Good stuff.

Thank you, 1662 thank you.

I do have a question about 1663 this particular 80-yard wedge shot where 1664 Chuck introduces supination.

1665 Without supination, I can get my 60 1666 -degree wedge out there 100 yards with a 1667 similar backswing as Chuck, which has 1668 been great.

1669 Am I just being too aggressive, or is 1670 that everyone has a different speed?

1671 Without supination, does that mean with 1672 supination you're not getting the 1673 distance?

1674 When you're hitting a wedge, 1675 Jonathan, I mean, 1676 as I'm going, let me grab a wedge.

1677 Like I don't need, so I start to work 1678 down here from the top.

I don't need a 1679 big, like I don't want to be going this 1680 way.

All right.

I just don't need it 1681 becoming that far inside.

So as you're 1682 going from here, this tiny little bit of 1683 supination as you're doing that should 1684 come down.

The only thing I'm worried 1685 about is how you phrase that question.

1686 My brain works.

She said without 1687 supination, you're getting it 100 yards.

1688 Well, Does that mean that you're getting 1689 here and you're getting a little steep on 1690 it and you're kind of cheating it through 1691 there?

1692 So that would kind of be my only, that's 1693 where my brain takes me.

1694 Fred, yay.

1695 Yay.

1696 Tom, 1697 trail elbow faces out.

How about the lead 1698 elbow?

Depends on where.

1699 You want both elbow pits facing away at 1700 setup right here.

I don't want you to try 1701 to block this out like that.

This is 1702 natural, just facing away from the body.

1703 And as we work down into GDP and into 1704 impact right here, this lead elbow is 1705 going to point down the target line.

You 1706 don't want to be like that.

1707 Trying to keep back turn to target.

1708 Fantastic.

Kevin.

1709 I loved Craig's journey back.

Well, thank 1710 you.

Can you go over that short 9-3 1711 swing?

Well, that 9-3, Kevin, 1712 was a lead side base.

1713 Some tiny tweaks with that.

1714 But in a 9-3, as we're working on it from 1715 right here, we get the grip.

1716 All I'm essentially doing right here is 1717 I'm getting a little bit of weight shift 1718 right here.

Just a little bit of weight.

1719 45 degrees of shoulder rotation, or if 1720 you're looking at me from down the line, 1721 or even if you're in front of me, you can 1722 still see this rotary swing logo right 1723 here.

So I'm trying to get a little bit 1724 of weight, 1725 roughly 70% of my weight.

This time, 45 1726 degrees of shoulder rotation right here.

1727 Tiny little wrist set, club out in front.

1728 And then all I'm trying to do is get 70 1729 to 80% of my weight back so that now I 1730 can post to help pull.

My lead hand into 1731 impact and let it rotate over.

So I'm 1732 trying to get weight, let me go here, 1733 trying to get weight.

Take away here, 1734 dog.

I mean, just keeping it simple.

Uh, 1735 Jonathan, can you talk about ball 1736 position for club changes with GOAT code?

1737 I know he talks about it in the video.

1738 But how much does it change as we change 1739 clubs?

It all depends, Jonathan.

1740 It doesn't really change that much.

I 1741 mean, obviously, 1742 short game and driver are specialties.

1743 But the difference in an 8-iron and a 5 1744 -iron, it's the exact same spot.

1745 Now, if I'm trying to flight something 1746 different, like I'm going to have it just 1747 ahead of center right here in standard 1748 stock.

1749 But it all depends on what I'm trying to 1750 do with the ball.

Standard stock, I'm 1751 going to be just ahead of center right 1752 here, where you kind of have that kind of 1753 leader logo of the chest, look right 1754 there.

1755 It doesn't really need to change from a 1756 wedge to a three iron unless I'm trying 1757 to do something with it.

1758 Brent, since I'm struggling with early 1759 extension, 1760 please show the finger on the hips motion 1761 again, having a hard time getting the 1762 front foot to rotate clockwise or plan.

I 1763 gave you that last night with that foot.

1764 That one's a little bit tricky.

I can 1765 understand that one.

1766 I can understand that one, Brent.

But for 1767 you, your early extension is so perfect 1768 example.

So Brent's tendency was his arms 1769 to load.

1770 All right.

And so as he started to bring 1771 his arms down to try to get some speed 1772 and shallow out the club, it'd be to push 1773 too much from here.

So all I'm saying is 1774 as you're here and you're working on this 1775 field, let your right hip work deep.

1776 Just take your lead hand, lead finger, 1777 just put it on your hip right here.

1778 And I'll just kind of make it because I 1779 know what you're working on right now.

As 1780 I'm going from here.

And I'm going to 1781 make that motion right there, that little 1782 bit of foot motion like with the eight on 1783 her.

So I'm here planting, and now all 1784 I'm doing is just pushing that back.

1785 If this hip, all I'm doing right here is 1786 just pushing that back, that's going to 1787 be early extension.

If this left hip, 1788 lead hip, is getting deeper, I'm 1789 exaggerating to kind of show, if this is 1790 getting 1791 deeper.

I have to, I got to be 1792 maintaining something right here.

1793 I just, I still think everybody just kind 1794 of, they try to make things so extreme 1795 like I did right there because that felt 1796 really weird.

1797 Trail hip deep, 1798 plant this back, 1799 push your lead hip back.

1800 Trail hip deep, 1801 plant this back, push this lead hip back.

1802 Let's see.

Thanks for the answer, and I'm 1803 glad I joined.

Well, thank you, Jonathan.

1804 I appreciate that.

1805 Thank you, thank you.

All right, I'm 1806 going to do, I think there's two more 1807 left, and then I'm going to be vamonos.

1808 Had a great day on Sunday, hitting tee 1809 shots over 50 yards further than typical, 1810 per the 168-iron video, then played 1811 yesterday trying to have the same feels, 1812 hooked the ball to another county.

1813 What would be the cause of this?

Okay, 1814 so.

We had a big jump in speed, which is 1815 awesome.

1816 But we started getting the hooks in 1817 there.

1818 Sounds like, to me, you started doing it 1819 with your arms.

1820 Somehow that club had to start shutting 1821 somehow.

1822 So what I think happened, I wasn't there.

1823 I wasn't there.

But what I think happened 1824 is you started loading.

1825 And you started getting the spine and you 1826 started shifting.

But instead of letting 1827 this drive and snap happen, because 1828 you're driving your core coming through.

1829 What I think happened is that you got 1830 here.

You planted, this stalled, and then 1831 you took over with your arms and hands 1832 because it felt really powerful.

So you 1833 started throwing your arms and hands with 1834 this.

Stalling out too much.

And remember 1835 when you get here and you plant.

The core 1836 has to keep leading as you get into your 1837 snap position.

The core is still driving 1838 right there.

Yes, I'm posting up and 1839 doing all this stuff, but my core is 1840 still working through here.

My core still 1841 has to outrace my arms.

What I think 1842 happened is you probably got here and you 1843 started throwing your arms and hands 1844 early, without this still going, which 1845 still creates a ton of speed, but it's 1846 going to cause that club face to be dead 1847 shut.

1848 So that's probably where your hook came 1849 from.

1850 Think about like what I talked about.

1851 I don't know when, when we're talking 1852 about working the ball.

1853 If I'm getting way out ahead of it like 1854 this, ball's probably going to go that 1855 way.

1856 So more than likely you got here, 1857 everything stayed overly kind of closed.

1858 You started trying to motor it with your 1859 arms or your shoulders, getting that 1860 thing flipping over versus the core 1861 leading the way, just like you would with 1862 the medicine ball or kettle ball.

That's 1863 more than likely what happened.

1864 I'll pay attention to that.

Yeah.

1865 If you think about it, that's why if you 1866 watch these two kind of belt loops right 1867 here.

1868 So I go from here and I start to plant 1869 and I move into here.

Well, 1870 my core is still working through right 1871 here.

If I get to here and this stalls 1872 out and I just take over my arms and 1873 hands, that's an easy way to kind of hit 1874 a quick hook.

1875 Is that it?

All right.

1876 Okay.

Well, with that being said, I think 1877 that's all the questions.

Unless you want 1878 me to work on my baseball swing or you 1879 have anything else, that's it.

1880 I guess we'll leave it at that.

1881 I guess I'll have to start working on my 1882 swing now.

1883 Get a couple of these puppies.

These will 1884 really change your life.

1885 All right.

I'm not talking about clubs 1886 and stuffed animals and all that.

Get a 1887 couple of these big guys.

1888 Put them here.

1889 So you can see I got this one face on 1890 right here and this one down the line.

So 1891 I can sit here and be like, okay, 1892 where does it look?

Was it this right 1893 here?

That is the fastest way to make 1894 some changes.

1895 David, no problem.

1896 Kevin, awesome.

1897 Got one.

Okay.

1898 Kenneth, you're welcome.

1899 Kevin, is there a video on the site that 1900 addresses getting stuck right elbow in 1901 the downswing?

1902 There was an older video, like really 1903 old, that talked about getting stuck.

But 1904 what do you, 1905 are you getting, as you come down, Are 1906 you getting stuck because your body's out 1907 ahead this way, or are you getting stuck 1908 because you're adding more tilt and 1909 you're pushing with your right hip that 1910 way?

1911 First one.

What did I say the first time?

1912 It's been a long day.

First one was your 1913 body's getting out ahead of your trail 1914 arm this way.

Is that the first one?

1915 Okay.

1916 So let's logistically or logically think 1917 about this.

1918 If you're getting stuck in your downswing 1919 because your body's racing out ahead of 1920 your arm right here, 1921 okay, 1922 as you're loading and rotating this way.

1923 You're spinning and this is getting 1924 trapped behind you.

Well, my arm is no 1925 longer in front of me right here.

1926 What do you need to put more of your 1927 focus on?

1928 Now, let's just logically think about 1929 this.

You're trying to get too much from 1930 your body.

So what I would do, I'm not 1931 getting in the arguments of J-release or 1932 squish the bug or anything like that.

But 1933 what I would do is I would get up here, 1934 load and rotate, and I would start 1935 focusing on.

Throwing the arm in hand, 1936 as this is staying relatively quiet.

1937 Because all that's happening is you're 1938 just driving so much, so soon, your arm 1939 can't catch up to it.

That's all that's 1940 happening, you're disconnecting right 1941 here.

That's kind of like that punch that 1942 I was talking about earlier.

You're 1943 trying to punch it like this, and so your 1944 arm's getting trapped right here.

And so 1945 what you need to prioritize if you think 1946 of the eight iron video, first 1947 prioritize.

I'm shifting laterally and 1948 I'm crunching right here, all right.

If 1949 I'm crunching and I'm shifting, I can't 1950 be in a stuck position.

1951 I can't be like this already.

I can't 1952 spin that much.

So I'm getting here and 1953 I'm focusing on that first motion.

I'm 1954 crunching.

If I'm crunching, I'm not 1955 spinning.

I'm not getting stuck.

1956 Focus on the crunch and then the throw or 1957 the release into the bag.

But I would put 1958 a lot of priority on, hey, if I'm right 1959 here and I just, okay, I'm stuck.

I'm in 1960 trouble now.

1961 Focus on your crunching, being quiet, 1962 getting these abs, 1963 getting this to work down.

Now that I'm 1964 down, now I can give it the juice.

Now I 1965 can have some fun.

1966 Focus on the crunch.

1967 Yeah, it's because the right arm's 1968 getting behind you because you're just 1969 spinning too much.

1970 Or in the backswing, if you.

Let me 1971 throw one more out for you just in case.

1972 If you made your backswing.

Everything 1973 collapsed this way, but I'm going to 1974 assume that you did the backswing 1975 correctly.

As my wife told me, never 1976 assume.

1977 All right, Kevin, I appreciate it.

With 1978 that being said, I am out.

1979 I've got swing reviews.

I've got other 1980 people to yell at, answer, you name it.

1981 Stan, see you in the swing reviews.

I 1982 will see you there, good friend.

And I'll 1983 be back.

I don't know when I'll be back, 1984 but I'll be back.

Don't worry.

1985 Don't worry.

I'll be back.

I don't win, 1986 but I'll be back.

1987 Glenn, time to work on my abs.

Me too.

1988 Me too.

Michael, this has been awesome.

I 1989 appreciate that.

1990 I appreciate that.

1991 Tommy, you're welcome.

1992 Paul, 1993 awesome.

I appreciate that very much so.

1994 Without you guys, 1995 as I always tell my unlimited students, 1996 without you guys, I don't have a job.

1997 So thanks for putting up with me.

1998 Jack, you're welcome.

1999 So I will be back.

I don't know in what 2000 shape or form.

Shape, hopefully more abs 2001 if I start doing some goat drills.

2002 But we will keep this going.

Don't know 2003 when.

Don't know how they'll be 2004 structured.

But I won't disappear too far 2005 on you.

2006 All right.

2007 2008 that unlimited students, not limited 2009 students.

2010 No student is limited with it.

Unlimited 2011 students.

2012 All right.

Thank you, everybody.

I am 2013 out.

I hope you all enjoy your Wednesday 2014 and enjoy the end of June.

Get ready for 2015 good old hot July here in the States.

2016 John, you're welcome.

2017 Let's see.

Where is.

I still can't get 2018 that thing off my screen.

2019 So I might not be able to leave.

2020 All right.

Maybe this button will do it.