Q-n-A Webinar 15: Jan 7

Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, fifteenth webinar, January 7th 2026

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All right.

Good evening, Mark.

As usual, very prompt.

I appreciate that.

Can you hear me?

That's the important part.

I can see the text.

Yes, yes.

All right.

Perfect.

Let's see.

David, good evening, Craig.

Sound is good.

Perfect.

Off to a good start.

It always just goes downhill from here, right?

So, welcome to the umpteenth Wednesday night webinar.

Hello, Anthony.

Hello, Dennis.

So, I appreciate everybody again for joining me on a busy Wednesday after a holiday.

I will be your humble RST instructor, Craig Morrow, up here.

As usual, per protocol, I'm going to let everybody kind of fill in the room, and then we will get going with the shindig.

I tried to make sure that I had some shoes this time, give me a little bit better contrast with the flooring.

That way, when I'm doing some fancy footwork, we can see some of the mojo happen with my feet, because the feet are very important.

I mean, they are important.

They've got to be able to move.

Now, I don't have those fancy kicks like Chuck does.

Yeah, I'm too far down the totem pole for that, but these will do tonight.

So how's everybody?

Everybody have a good holiday?

Hey, Michael, how are you doing tonight?

Everybody doing all well in the golf and the internet space?

Whatever's going on in the world, I try to just not with anything.

Hope everybody had a.

Happy and so far healthy start to the new year.

Hopefully some new insights in golf.

TGL.

I don't watch TV, Mark.

I especially don't watch golf.

I'll check out the majors.

But, you know, unless I'm looking for a nap, that's the one time I watch golf.

Hello, Scott.

How are we doing?

So I think there's pros and cons to it.

I mean, one of the big things, especially in my neck of the woods, Chuck and I had this talk, this might have been, I think this was last March.

yeah, this was at that speed clinic last March when we were talking about this.

Um, I think a lot of players are going to be switching to indoor golf, especially younger players.

You're still going to play golf on golf courses, don't get me wrong, but I mean, if I want to go play around the golf, the simulators we have around us.

You can pay 45 bucks and you can play for an hour and a half, versus having to play $200 in six hours on a golf course.

So I think that's going to keep popping up more and more because it's just getting too accurate.

It's a lot cheaper in my area.

I know that.

Steven, good evening.

Can you use goatee without using a ball and or no club?

You need a club, but you don't have to use a ball.

So you can definitely go no ball.

But I will tell you, I'm not the Goaty Messiah.

I can tell you that.

So that part I do know.

And I don't know if Caden's in here tonight, but I know Caden just took over as number one for Chuck with the help of Goaty.

And yours truly.

He's done a few live lessons with me.

So, hey, there's a little something to that.

A little something to that.

Dennis, looking at 110F this weekend in Sydney.

Holy.

I guess y'all are different than us.

Here in Georgia, we've been actually pretty – it was 72 Fahrenheit today and sunny.

It was darn near perfect.

We almost hit that record high.

Almost hit the record high.

Tell Chuck, I may not get my GOAT score very high, but my golf scores are definitely going down fast.

Was a nine handicap, and now break par three to five rounds.

Awesome.

Awesome, Paul.

Well, I'm glad it's helping.

I mean – I think one of the big things, obviously the technology behind it, but I think one of the big things with Cody is just the objectiveness.

It's not feeling-based.

It's just going to tell you what it sees.

And a lot of people, they just kind of need that direct shot into the vein.

Just give it to me straight, Doc.

What's wrong?

I don't care how good or bad the noose is.

Pat, live from VA.

Where in VA, Pat?

Where are you in VA?

I used to spend a little time in VA.

My wife's from West VA.

But I was up.

Where is it?

Oh, man.

I've been around the bush so much.

Up in Gaithersburg.

So I was up in, I guess, Nova area.

Alexandria.

Okay.

Yeah.

When Club Rio and the TPI Institute was up at the.

in Gaithersburg.

And then I used to get my clubs done in Bethesda.

And there's another guy in this chat that gets his clubs done by the same guy that I used to get my clubs done back in the day when I was actually a golfer.

Happy New Year, Craig.

I appreciate it.

Sorry for the recent radio silence, which will end.

Great seeing you.

Thanks for these meetings.

No problem, Vijay.

I hope you're doing well, my friend.

Hola from Puerto Vallarta.

We are low 80s every day.

Yeah, you kind of get a little spoiled.

You get a little spoiled.

Garrett, Alpha, Illinois.

My brother-in-law is in Chicago right now.

All right, I will give about, it's ticking away still a little bit, so I'll give it just another second, and then we will get going.

So in the meantime, what's going on?

Anybody want to chit-chat while I wait for everybody to get in?

I know for some people it kind of seems strange because like you click and all of a sudden you're in, but some people with different web browsers and I can see like they're trying to, or I can see them pop in and disappear and pop back up.

Let's see.

I had a decent new year, I guess.

Kept it pretty low key.

I had a nice dinner.

Christmas was good.

No golf.

I can't even remember the last time I played golf.

That hurt.

Ever since Goaty told me that I should probably take up fishing, but my golf swing isn't good enough to take up fishing.

Anthony.

Oh, yeah.

I forgot.

Anthony's down close to that neck of the woods as well.

David, any New Year's resolutions?

Win the lottery.

That's my only goal.

Win the lottery.

I figure, speaking of, as Chuck and I were talking about the indoor golf earlier, when Chuck and I get together, we get pretty deep into stuff and philosophical about things.

They're very.

And they're usually not lighthearted conversations.

So like with New Year's resolutions, a lot of people are like, OK, well, I'm going to wait till the new year to start losing weight or I'm it's Thursday.

I'm going to start doing this on Monday.

And Chuck and I have always been like, why don't you just start now?

Like, if that's what you want to do, why we don't we don't need to set a deadline on this.

Let's just start.

You know, you're trying to quit smoking.

15 cigarettes a day.

Why don't we just go for 14 tomorrow?

Not be like, oh, in two weeks, I'll go to.

So we're an odd bunch.

I can tell you that.

All right, John, I'll answer this question and I'm going to get to the questions.

Can I ask a question?

In a recent video, Chuck says you need to keep your trail arm connected to your side, but he also says keep the trail arm as straight as possible, as late as possible.

Keep the trail arm connected to your side.

But he also says keep the trail arm as straight as possible, as late as possible.

Not sure which video.

I'm thinking maybe the uppercut punch.

But essentially all that we're saying are the scap, how it drops and connects right here.

Your arm is connected as we're moving through here.

And what we see when players get over the top and stuff, they go this way.

They start to protract early or they do the opposite of supination.

They start to pronate too early.

So you want to have this connection, especially as you're driving down here and you're hitting this punch, is you want to have this connection to your core because if you're just out here flailing in the wind, there's no speed transfer from your body.

All right.

And so, yeah, uppercut punch.

So that's – I'll have checked a little bit of that.

We've been talking about that video back and forth.

So, but it's essentially, you want to keep this connection right here so that as you drop down, so if I'm unweighting, getting into this side, about to have this powerful post up and drive and sternum going up, you don't want to have this kind of independent arm swing, all right?

You don't want your arms to have this kind of independent because then the speed's only going to be transferred from here.

So this connection is up here in this kind of shirt seam area.

It's not like we're trying to keep your elbow glued to your rib like this.

I think some people kind of took it that way.

All right.

Makes more sense.

Good.

That doesn't make sense to you.

Nothing makes sense to me anymore.

So let's get rocking and rolling.

All right.

My eye's going here.

Craig.

I'm unsure.

where my leading edge should be at setup.

My habit is to forward press first to feel my impact position.

And in that moment, the leading edge is square to the target.

But when I move it back to address, the face ends up slightly closed around 11 o'clock.

I'm noticing more compression and ideal launch, but also get the occasional hook.

Should the leading edge be square at address or slightly closed?

If that's what helps me get in a better impact position.

deleting it should be square, right?

Should be square to dress.

Now the question slightly closed, if that helps me get into a better impact position.

I mean, if you, if you got to play in a tournament today and you're like, I got to do something, you know, to get around the course.

Yeah.

I mean, I'll allow that.

But to me, that's still, you're putting in not necessarily a bandaid, but you're putting in some fix to fix something.

Well, Keeping this closed actually helps me square the face a little bit more.

But why aren't you squaring the face to begin with?

So any guidance on what the correct go -code pattern is?

Well, this starts very early on.

What you need, you want the leading edge.

And for what anybody doesn't know, the leading edge of the golf club right here, just this place right here, just the leading edge of the club.

You want that leading edge square to the target.

All right.

Now.

This forward press that you speak of, why when you're moving back, is it closing?

That would be kind of my first question with this.

Because the forward press in the swing, I don't want to get here and then just move my hands forward and then kind of move my body back or rock my hand back.

Because if I go like this and I go like this, I can see what you're saying.

I can see how it's kind of natural to let that toe kind of rotate as I'm doing this.

But the forward press in the swing isn't a hand motion.

This is why with putting, chipping, pitching, the early parts of goat coat, it's a fascial forward press, all right?

So the forward press should be almost imperceptible to kind of get things going, but it's the whole unit.

So this face angle and face rotation really shouldn't be changing.

If you're kind of presetting, okay, this is what I want to feel, and go back to position.

You need to get back in the proper square position with the leading edge facing this way.

And then you can use a little bit of the fascial forward press to get everything going back.

Because how much influence does this face angle have?

Well, 85 of initial ball flight is club face angle.

So, With you already kind of starting a little bit off, even though you may not sense it, and this is why I tell people all the time to swing a weighted club or swing a medicine ball or swing a kettle ball, is because the brain is absolutely ridiculous when it comes to making adjustments.

I swing a weight.

It's going to make an adjustment to help me support that weight so I don't fall over.

Even though you may not notice it, you setting up with a closed club face, Your eyes are taking in that information.

Your brain's like, okay, well, as we're going throughout the swing, we may need to keep supination a little bit longer, or we may need to add a little bit more lateral drive, or we may need to spin a little bit of the shoulders because if he makes the proper swing, makes the proper motion with the closed club face, this ball's going left.

So what I would watch out for is.

Making sure that when you're practicing this impact, if you're going to be like, oh, this is what I want.

I want to feel my hands ahead.

Okay, no problem with that.

But reset up and get everything square.

And if you want a forward press, don't do it by kind of just presetting your hand position and impact.

The trigger is a fascial forward press.

That's why, like, when you go back.

To like the chipping or the pitching.

It's this little, you can see how I've got just this little.

I'm making it more dramatic than actually it should be, so you can see it on camera, it's this little, it's got to be.

I'm trying to get this going.

A good way to think about it if you have a weight or one of these things.

If I'm swinging this puppy right here and I'm just nice and relaxed, what do I initially do to kind of get the momentum going?

You see how I kind of move into my left to get going to my right?

I rarely see somebody pick up a medicine ball and just start going this way.

They always are like, oh, it's got a little weight to it.

And they start generating some momentum by kind of going a quick left back to a quick right.

I'd rather you learn that and keep the club face square because of how important that is.

Well, I actually almost answered this question.

Show and explain.

How to get power from our core with the right arm and hand in the club.

Is this done a specific way or not at all?

Well, it's exactly what I just talked about.

So the big thing you have to really realize, and I'm just going to make this a quick one because I think everybody's kind of on the same page with this.

You don't get power.

I'm not trying to get power from my arm like this.

All right.

I see all this.

This doesn't create any power.

Can I could I possibly put a hole in my driveway here?

Possibly.

But if I were to go like this, now not all of a sudden I'm going to put a hole in the drywall.

I'm also going to break my hand.

That's more what I'm looking for.

So when the arm and the scap is down in position and connected to my spine right here, just like an uppercut punch, I've now created a link up this chain of events through my shoulder blade into my arm.

And so I'm trying to use my pivot and my core.

to get that speed.

I'm transferring it through this.

The arm is a passive conduit, not an active conduit, just like with throwing.

If I were to get here and throw a football like this, it's about as far as I could throw it is how hard I can move my arm and hand.

But if I get a little, now I can put some into it.

So you don't get power from your arm, all right?

Period.

Don't get power from your arm.

It's the connection of your scapula.

to your spine as you pivot around using the leverage from the ground, the stern coming up, all these things that we know.

I'm hoping that you know.

It's the connection.

It's the connection.

As soon as this disconnects, as soon as I go this way, all my power is relegated to how strong this arm is.

All right?

That's why this connection right here is so important.

into transferring power, it's keeping this in position.

Okay?

Awesome notes.

Now, this is a good question.

There is no actual lifting the club up with the arms and the backswing.

The only arm lifting is on the right hand upwards, lifting and bending from the right elbow towards the end of the backswing.

Everything else is core driven.

Right.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The question is the answer, which is usually the way it is in life.

So the golf swing is obviously cord -driven.

This is golf swing's cord-driven right here.

The only arm lifting is the right hand upwards lifting and bending of the right elbow at the end of the back swing.

Yes.

So what he's saying, or her saying, is that this elbow and this wrist are creating this effect of creating vertical motion in the backswing.

All right.

As I go this way, you should never be in a position where you feel like you have to try to lift the club up.

If you feel like you're having to try to lift the club up, you're going to be in a situation you don't want to be in.

It's a lot of the pivoting into the hip, the shoulder blade, the rotation, the side bend, the extension of the spine.

That's allowing you to get to here.

Just like in kind of old RST, which still applies, you know, there's, we used to talk about shoulder elevation.

All right.

We used to talk about, you know, there's still a little bit of this arm raising as we do this, but there's no active lift.

That's why if you go back and you think about goat backswing, what does that scapula kind of do?

Just a little bit as we go this way, that scapula kind of moves up a little bit.

Okay.

But you should never be trying to actively lift the arms to the top.

If I'm rotating around my spine, I'm loading and going this way, I'm really not doing anything except my arm like this.

I'm never trying to get the club up, okay?

So if you feel like you're having to lift the club, something's off.

All right.

And what I typically see where it starts from is actually left side push or lead side push.

Because I'll see players, okay, I've got to keep the club out in front of me in the takeaway.

Chuck's giving me the railroad lines.

Craig's told me about my hands or whatever it may be.

It's this.

That's what I typically see is somebody's like, oh, I'm here.

So they start to push with their lead arm and lead shoulder this way.

And all of a sudden it starts to lift the head and it lifts the spine.

And now they start to rotate.

Well, they've already lifted themselves to where everything's kind of flat now in this horizontal plane.

And then they start to try to rotate.

And now everything starts working deep and working flat.

And they're like, I've got to try to lift it because now I'm too flat and I'm too deep.

That's what I usually see on my end is that players are feeling like I've got to lift the club because I'm getting over into that position.

But it usually starts right from the very beginning.

And it usually starts from some type of push down here versus a coil down here being around my spine.

And I keep going.

I really didn't lift a whole bunch there.

I could get a little bit deeper if I was a little.

A little more fit, but if you're having to feel like you're lifting the club, something's off because you really shouldn't have to actively lift it.

It's more just this function.

Remember the old, for people that have been with RST forever, remember the old three functions.

This was all three functions of the right arm.

This is literally all the action of creating any vertical motion in the backswing you need.

There should never be any trying to get it up there.

If you're trying to get it up there, we got problems.

Is the backswing and downswing much like shooting an arrow with a bow?

The bow gets bowed, loaded up, a lot of energy built up, and used in the downswing and finally released.

There's a stretch and unstretching phase where the throw, the right shoulder drive, side bend, crutch, are all part of the downswing.

Is shooting an arrow with a bow a useful thought to have about what's going on?

I don't see why not.

That's the big premise of the acceleration deceleration.

And that's the big premise.

I think there was an email a couple days ago where Chuck was talking about this rebounding effect.

That if you coil correctly in the backswing, then that's how you get the downswing effortless.

That's how you get a lot of these byproducts.

That's how you.

Unwind correctly.

Coming down is that if I?

If we take this bow and arrow analogy, so if I'm stretching that bow back like this, well, what does that bow and arrow have to do?

As soon as I let go, it snaps back into place.

So if you think about the torque bridge drill, you know where Chuck's like, Okay, once you, once you get your spiraling coiling and you get up to here, and once you start to get this, it's It's whoo.

And that's because once you reach center and get here, all this tension, everything built up.

This is quick.

It's a quick snap back.

It's a quick acceleration.

I'm done.

There's nothing that needs to be done.

Now I need the club to start to scream through impact as my lead leg kind of reacts to the fact that I'm trying to release it hard.

That's what you need to do.

All right.

That's the big thing that you need to do.

If you can focus, I know it sounds silly, but if you just get the first part of the torque bridge drill, all right, if you just get the first part, the coiling, all right, that's going to make a lot of things automatic.

RST five-step, dead drill, Axiom, All of these things we still talked about, what is the first thing that needs to happen?

You've got to get your weight or you've got to get your pressure.

You've got to start loading into this side.

You need to give your brain a reason to work.

And you need to give your muscles a reason to rebound.

When you just flail your arms this way, I haven't told my body to do anything.

Oh, well, I flailed my arms this way.

But I know I need to use my body.

I know I need to use my hips.

I see people do it on TV to create speed.

So I'm going to use my arms this way, and, well, I've got to drive my hips.

Now my arms and hands are way too far behind me.

The club's never going to catch up.

I'm stuck wide open or flipping the club into impact.

It's kind of like one of the first basic fundamentals.

If I get step one, if I can load and coil correctly, if I can get this correct, I'm not all of a sudden, I'm not saying it's not going to happen.

I haven't seen it happen.

Just because I hadn't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

If I wind back in a certain fashion, my body only knows one way to unwind it.

I don't wind back this way and then all of a sudden just lose my attention like that.

If I wind this way, it wants to go back this way.

So if you just get that part.

That's a it's a huge leap step and bound forward But I think a bow and arrows is a great way to think about it bows right here.

I don't really know a whole bunch about it, but I'm imagining you know, I'm right here and Getting that tension back now.

I've got my pivot where I've kind of started right here, my left leg, my fascial lines going up here.

And I've got this.

I've got all this tension now.

I've got to let it rebound and that's gonna be what shoots the arrow.

I think that's a great analogy for it.

In the backswing, there is some arm elevation, but how much of this is active lifting?

How much of this is passive?

Meaning it's happening because of what the body core side vent ETC is doing.

How much is lifting?

How much is getting lifted?

It really shouldn't be active.

It really shouldn't be a ton of active lifting.

Now, if you've been a perennial inside swinger, If you've been struggling with your takeaway, I think the difference is, I thought I had an alignment rod around here.

Apparently I don't.

So we'll use this guy.

There really shouldn't be a ton of active lifting.

And I think what players tend to struggle with, let me go this way with it, is the new sensation.

You feel like you're doing a ton of active lifting.

But what it's more of is you're actually doing less.

Let me show you what I mean.

If I'm hearing my takeaway, and I get set up here, and get my hands right here at the end of the stick, and I'm used to going this way.

Well, I'm obviously actively doing something.

Pushing on my left wrist.

Holding my trail arm, doing all that fun stuff.

But as soon as I start rotating and my hands staying inside the stick and the club going down the railroad track, I'm going this way.

That feels like a lot of lifting to some people, but I really haven't actively added a ton of lifting.

It's my hand supporting a little bit of the weight of the club right here, and it's just the fact that I'm keeping the club out in front of my chest.

How, how?

It's not this way.

It's not this way.

So it feels very vertical at first.

I remember when I first changed over to RST two decades ago, my backswing felt insanely vertical.

Like my backswing felt like it was like this.

All right.

Now come down, Craig.

Because I was so used to swinging flat or so used to swinging my arms that this concept of lifting that you need.

It's really just your arm staying in front.

That's all it is.

It's really just staying in front with a little bit of this elevation, a little bit of flexion, but that naturally happens as you support the weight of the club.

So in my opinion, it's really just a feel change for you.

There really isn't any active lifting.

All right.

Let's see.

What do you think of this?

The goats utilize a complex coordinated kinetic sequence that blends body-driven motion with a powerful active arm release.

I don't know if I'd say powerful active arm release.

Is this something you can support or warn against?

Well, coordinated kinetic sequence that blends body-driven motion, true, with a powerful active arm release.

That's the only thing that I would change.

As you advance and go in working on release, there are things you can add.

If I'm trying to throw, essentially, I can add a little bit more snap down here once I have the feel of how to release But the thing that I don't like about this is active arm release, all right?

The release is of consequence.

Now, I may be active in my throwing pattern in making this.

And this is, I don't want to say gray area because you hear what we say or you hear what I say and you hear what Chuck says.

And Chuck says, you know, throw it as hard as you can from the top.

Yes, this throwing pattern is active.

And I guess what I'm saying is, is an active.

squaring up by the club.

That's the only reason I don't like that.

It's a body-driven motion.

I'm actively trying to throw the club or I'm throwing the club at the ball, but the action that's happening right here, I'm not trying to steer it.

That's why I don't like acting.

It finally popped in my head.

I don't like steering.

I'm not trying to steer the club.

Just like when you've seen me do this a million times where I'll just stand right here.

I'll be like, all right, I'm just going to.

this thing's going to release itself all day long.

So what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to coordinate this supination deviation rotation, which I could put a little bit more in with my hand if I wanted to right now.

It doesn't make it right or wrong.

But now as I do this, like I'm still feeling all this.

I'm not actively trying to make this a ton faster or trying to square up the club base.

I'm just actively throwing it with my body.

Helping drive it.

So I just, I think the only thing you can say that.

But just try to shy away from the steering part of it.

Because this thing is the most devilish weapon in the book, right?

But it really is designed to kind of do all the work for you.

That's that's the beauty about it is.

If I kind of get out of this thing's way, It'll sit here and go to the same spot and square up, same spot every single time.

That's the only thing.

I want you to think about it like I'm slinging the stone, so I'm active and kind of slinging that stone.

I'm not really steering.

I'm not overtaking the physics.

I'm not dominating it.

I'm actively feeling these things, but I'm feeling the sling of the stone with it.

I'm not taking over for Newton.

Maybe that's the point I'm trying to get I'll come back to you guys on the screen.

The start of the backswing, is that a left side push or a right side pull or both?

Boy, we could talk about this for a while.

I've had some debates with some figures on this.

So is the start of the backswing a left side push or a right side pull?

Well, if we think about the fascial forward press, and we think about what I was doing with the weight, if I'm starting to the lead side right here, I'm technically using my lead side to kickstart into my right side, all right?

So kind of technically, I'm using my left side or my lead side to get my right side going.

Now, here's the caveat to this.

I'm feeling for me a lot of core and right side going back right here.

I'm feeling my right oblique, my abs, my left oblique.

But technically speaking, it is a little bit more of a left side start.

I'm trying to get this left side going.

I'm not pushing my shoulder out.

I'm not pushing my arm.

But I'm getting this fascial forward press to kind of get.

My left and my right to work together right here.

But it's it's kind of my left kick -starting to get my right side going, or my lead side to get my trail side going.

The problem that it comes down to right here is fields, that's that's the main problem with this.

This argument back and forth is feels, so this is what I would say for this particular individual.

Can't figure out how to trigger the backswing?

Just pick up a darn weight, All right?

This isn't heavy enough for me.

I'd rather use a kettle.

But just pick up a darn weight.

If players would just do that, I would, I mean, other than Goatee taking me out of business, if players would just use a weighted, like a kettlebell or something like this over and over again and just forget about a golf club, that would put me out of business too.

So if I had this right here, okay, what do you feel?

Trying to move this because obviously we don't want to swing it with our arms, I don't want to push them.

What are you feeling to get this thing going, like, what are you feeling right here?

I just wanted to make a little takeaway to get the swing.

What are you feeling right here?

I'm feeling my lead side helping me get into and coil around my trail side, but what are you feeling?

I'm going to immediately feel how my lead oblique is helping me get that trail oblique moving.

I don't feel getting here and then pulling my, I don't feel this side go limp.

I feel this side kind of nudge this side to get everybody kind of working together.

So, you know, it is kind of working like this.

My lead side's getting this to go this way and this is going to go in that way.

All right.

So technically it's going to feel like your lead side's doing it.

That's why if you do it with the weight, you'll immediately feel what I'm talking about.

And you'll be like, well, I feel my lead side and I feel my trail side.

I agree.

They're both doing something.

But that right here, if I'm getting that little fascial forward press start, I feel, oh, okay.

That lead side's kind of getting me into my trail side as I do this.

When protracting the left shoulder and retracting the right, I have.

A feeling of having my arms too much behind me, not having them in front of my chest.

Could that be a problem in the downswing?

If your arms get behind you 100%.

This kind of correlates to the other question.

When protracting the lead shoulder and retracting the right.

I've seen a lot of this lately.

All right.

I've seen a lot of this lately where I think it's been on YouTube.

Or I even had a guy this morning that said like, hey, I need to focus on getting this one protracted and retracting my right.

So I can get to the, well, yeah, technically as I'm going this way, as I start to get this stretch up here, my lead shoulder is going to start to protract.

My right's going to start to protract.

But I'm going to kind of max out right here.

My arms are still in the front of my chest.

I'm just actually leveling out my turn because I'm trying to do it so hard right now.

I mean, my lead is really protracted right now.

I can't see it on camera on my trail.

So if you're getting too much depth and you're going across, then you're probably not doing it.

You're probably actually pushing with something or pulling with something too hard.

So it's more, I think that you're overcooking it.

I'm feeling core rotating, connection, connection.

And as I try to get this extra little bit of stretch up here at the top, my lead shoulder starts to protract a little bit as my trail shoulder starts to retract.

But it's only like this.

To me, it sounds like you're trying to overwork one or the other to try to get 130 degrees of shoulder rotation, which, I mean, you can get more speed out of that.

But what's the point?

It's kind of all diminishing returns.

You'll see like Rory.

I mean, Rory, even if you compare Rory to Tiger, it's crazy how straight Rory keeps his arms.

How, I mean, when Rory gets to, I don't even know if I can do it.

When Rory gets to here, I mean, he's literally like this.

He's actually more like that.

And he almost keeps that.

And so that's what's really getting this protraction and retraction right there.

But it's a byproduct of him actually not doing anything with his arms right here.

All right?

Just to me, that's a little on the extreme side.

If you can do it and have at it, it would be great for me.

But yes, you don't want them to get too deep.

So, I mean, I guess I'm going to be biased on this one.

Just do my two-inch hand drill.

That'll get you the feeling of.

Big rotation, your arms staying in front and not ever needing to really kind of lift them.

Not really, ever, really needing to do anything with it.

And you'll feel the same thing the more you rotate.

All right, this is this one I knew was coming up.

I probably should have thought about it a little bit more, but I've got an answer for it.

Struggling with making improvements I thought I'd make at this stage?

I've been through Goat code, I've done lessons, And I've used goatee.

I get the concept in drills, but they don't seem to be translating.

Should I go through goat code again?

Do I keep just doing the drills?

I'm 65 years young, so my bad habits are deeply ingrained.

Do I keep doing drills or do I go through goat code again because I don't think I'm making the progress that I think I should be at this stage?

I think that's a group question.

It's not just this individual's question.

How do I phrase this?

Other than fat golf is hard, but it's not.

I think New Year's is the easiest way to phrase this.

Everybody's going to come up with these New Year's resolutions of what they should be doing, and the most common one is going to be what?

It's going to be diet.

I'm going to lose 20 pounds.

I'm going to lose 30 pounds.

That's going to be the most common New Year's resolution.

Now, why is everybody going to fail?

There's going to be some successes, but why is the vast majority of people going to fail?

If you have any thoughts, put them up right there.

Why are people going to fail at their diet and exercise?

What's the biggest reason?

I think that we can come up with one or two, three.

Remember, I'm just coming up with this on the floor.

Majority of people are going to fail, A, because it's going to be way too restrictive too much.

All right.

They're so used to eating McDonald's cheeseburgers every single day that all of a sudden, when they see something green in front of them, like a vegetable, they're like, this ain't happening.

All right.

So one's too restrictive.

Stephen, they don't stay with it.

No plan.

Okay, I like that.

They don't follow through.

I'm opening a new gym called Resolutions after two weeks and turning into, that's a goldmine idea.

Not achievable goal, no structure.

Okay, so we'll go with these right here.

No plan, no structure.

They don't follow through.

Not achievable goal.

Don't assess the root part of the problem.

Don't assess the root part of the problem.

For me, it's putting that McDonald's cheeseburger in my mouth.

But let's think about this.

We all just answered this.

You just gave me all the answers to this individual.

How is golf any different than these right here?

The first thing is a plan, okay?

Well, do I start back with GOAT code or not?

You tell me.

Do you need to start back with the beginning of GOAT code?

Now, at first, we said get the putting assessment, then the chipping assessment, then the pitching assessment.

Did you pass all those?

Did you pass them with flying colors?

Were you honest with yourself doing that?

I'm not being hard on whoever this individual is.

I'm just talking.

I want you to succeed, but this is kind of a group conversation.

Did you pass all those, and were you accountable with all that?

Okay, let's say you did.

Did you go from zero to 100?

That's the vast majority of everybody's problem why they don't get this.

I eat McDonald's cheeseburgers for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

It's come Monday.

I'm never having a cheeseburger again.

I'm going to eat Brussels sprouts, boiled chicken, and air.

And by day three, it doesn't happen.

Well, how about I'm going to eat cheeseburgers all this week.

But I'm going to cut it down to one first.

So maybe I'm going to try having an egg white for breakfast this week.

Set a plan of attack of small, achievable goals at first.

We know the overall goal, the building of the pro-level swing.

We know that.

And we know how to get there.

We know all the steps to get there.

But most people do step one.

They do step two.

And they're like, why am I not at step 10 yet?

Because I've worked on my turn here.

I've worked on my lag.

I've worked on this.

I've worked on that.

Anthony can tell you right now in the group how many times we've had a swing review with somebody, and we're like, okay, all I want you to focus on, and I'll just keep this one as simple as I can.

All I want you to focus on is making sure that you make a full shoulder turn, that you get your trail shoulder behind your head because you don't rotate in the back.

All right?

That's all I want you to focus on between now and the next review.

I don't care what's going on with your foot.

I don't care what's going on with your spine.

I don't care what's going on with your club.

I don't care if you're missing the darn ball.

Get your shoulder behind your head.

And Anthony can attest for this, that that person comes back, and what are they doing?

That shoulder's A, not behind their head, and B, well, I was working on my driver trying to get more speed, and Chuck released a video, so I've been working on this in my release.

That's not what we told you to do.

Take a step back here for a second.

This whole answer is set up right here.

I wasn't born with my golf swing.

Anthony wasn't born with his golf swing.

Chuck wasn't born with his golf swing.

Tiger may have been, but Tiger wasn't born with his golf swing.

This is what I would do.

If you feel like you're stuck, All right.

If you feel like you're stuck in a rut, like I'm not getting to where I want to get with this yet because I feel like I've put in a lot of the work.

Let's assess first.

All right.

What's my goal?

I want this pro level swing.

How do I get to this pro level swing?

What's wrong with my swing?

Well, I look at my swing or I plug myself into goatee or I do a swing review and we look at the basis.

All right.

Do I have my setup?

Do I set up every single time without a fault, without screwing up?

Do I nail this without ever having to worry about it again?

Okay.

Let's say you got that.

I got that.

All right.

Now, what's next?

Well, I know I have to move my body correctly.

I've got to get my coil into here.

I've got to recenter, unweight, post up.

I got to get my lower half going because if I don't get my legs and I don't get my core and coil going, I'm going to make up for it with my arms and hands.

These guys are great at making up things.

So let's set the goal.

All right.

This is what I'm going to do.

Come hell or high water.

That's it.

I don't care about my results.

I don't care about anything else.

I'm going to get this down.

This week, I'm going to set the goal that I'm going to walk a mile.

And I'm going to stick with just walking.

There's nothing wrong with trying to push yourself.

But my goal is I have to walk the mile.

All right.

My goal is I have to get this.

The plan of attack, figure out where your problems are first.

All right, whether you do a swing review, go, I don't care what it is, whether you ask your buddy, but figure out where the thing is first.

Set an achievable goal first and get it down.

I don't think people realize how they they learn how to release the club and they're like, Oh, I learned that, let's go on the next step.

That's almost everybody I see from here on out, I mean, from Every day.

And Anthony sees every single day.

And I'm not yelling at you.

I hope you don't take it this way.

I'm a little fired up today.

But I want you all to get better.

And I see that I get so frustrated that people are like, I can't do this.

I hate that.

I hate when people say I can't do something.

It drives me absolutely nuts.

They'll do it perfectly in a practice swing.

I can't do it with a golf ball.

I can't do this.

I just saw you do it.

You can't do it at pace yet with a golf ball.

But I just saw you do it, so you physically can do it.

But going back to my point, set the achievable goal first, get it, and move forward.

I played a high level of golf.

I wasn't born with my golf swing.

I made a lot of different changes.

I struggled with getting weight into my lead side.

Okay, I did.

Because I was a massive trail side spinner off my trail leg.

It took me a month.

A month to get this, just this, to where I didn't have to think about it ever again.

It took me a month.

But I don't have to think about it.

I can do it without it.

But that's all I did.

I didn't worry, is my club laid off?

Do I have tons of lag?

I set a small achievable goal.

If I don't start shifting my weight, I'm never going to get there.

I'm never going to get it.

So that's the first thing.

Now you can start to combine movements.

And I think that's why people get scared of this, because they're like, Well, Craig, you're telling me.

Well, if I struggle with weight that all I should do is this for a month and then move on to the next one.

It's going to take me 10 years to build my golf swing.

Yeah, if you do it like that, it's going to take 10 years to build your golf swing.

That's why I want you to combine movements and you go to the point to where you can do them correctly without them breaking down.

So, let's take just torque bridge for that.

All right.

All right.

I've got coil.

I recenter.

I get here and I post.

All right.

That's the whole lower body movement in the entire golf swing.

Let me get that whole thing down.

Now I can spend a month and I can completely retrain my lower half.

Now that's a lasting change.

That's a bit.

Now I can combine motion just like I might walk a mile today, but I'm also going to eat a vegetable.

So we're all our own worst enemies.

I'm my own worst enemy.

We all are.

We sabotage ourselves.

And we don't know that we're sabotaging ourselves.

We just don't, especially in golf, all right?

I'm no mental savant.

I'm no magic anything up here.

These are just my observations.

But if you feel like you're stuck in a rut, why are you stuck in a rut?

Is it because you're looking at the wrong things in your swing or you're fixing something that's an effect or this?

Get down.

Okay.

What do I need to do?

All right.

I just took a review and Craig says, Anthony says that I don't load into my trail side in the backswing.

So I need to get this down.

Might take me two weeks to do it, but I need to get this down to where I do it every single time and I don't have to think about it.

So I'm going to focus on just getting that regardless of what the club's going.

Well, I can actually focus on getting that.

And also get proper shoulder point at the same time.

I can kind of combine those two moves and I can kill two birds with one stone as I'm drilling this because I do that really well.

Or, you know, now that I know how to do it, I do it with relative ease.

Awesome.

Nice.

Combined.

The more you combine and do it, the faster you're going to get it.

But then everybody tries to do everything but the kitchen sink and they don't understand why they don't get it.

So it's the new year.

It's a new you.

It's your new golf swing.

Whether you use a swing review or not, or goatee or this or that or the other, listen to what it's telling you and say, okay, the biggest complaint I've heard about goatee, goatee told me to do the uppercut punch drill again.

This is the 16th time it's recommended me to do the uppercut punch drill.

Yeah, because you're still doing the problem wrong.

There may be another way it's saying.

How you need to fix it may be another drill, 100%.

But it's objective.

It's saying, no, you're still doing it wrong.

So you need to spend more time on, let's get this portion right.

So for this individual, this student, for y'all in this group, for me, for everybody, all right, we all are our own worst enemies when it comes to golf.

We all flat out are.

Let's all first admit we are our own worst problem in our golf swing.

Okay.

We all are, you know, like this is AA for golf right now.

We are all our own worst problem in our golf swing.

All right.

So now let's figure out what we need to Let's set a goal and let's achieve this goal.

All right.

You know, whether you do a swing review or whether you know what's going on with your swing or whether Goatee told you, Hey, I don't have the proper, let's say stardom drop.

Okay?

So Goaty's telling me my sternum drop isn't working well, and it's telling me that I need to work on torque bridge.

Okay?

Get it down.

Don't worry about anything else.

Get it down.

Get it done.

Move on with your life.

I don't like doing the same drill for six months in a row.

I want to do it for two weeks and then move on to something else.

Get it down.

Do it with some pace.

Start to apply the ball back.

We see it just too often.

I don't know who this individual.

I think I know who this is by remembering when I copied and pasted it from the community.

And I think I know what the problem is in his golf swing if I'm thinking of the right person.

Yeah, we have a lot of ingrained bad habits and stuff.

Pick your battles.

I know for me, like, you know, if I.

This is going to be terrible to say.

If somebody told me I had to quit drinking, I would tell them mama didn't raise no quitter.

All right.

But if I had to quit drinking, I'd be like, all right, how am I going to assess this problem and get over this?

All right.

I'm going to pick my battle how I'm going to do that.

You know, for me, I, you know.

You may have the mental capacity and be like, all right, I'm going to go cold turkey.

How often does cold turkey really work?

There are individuals that cold turkey people can do it.

Not everybody.

And that's what you're trying to do in your golf swing.

You're trying to say, I've been over the top for 30 years.

And all of a sudden, Chuck, Craig, Anthony gave me a drill to supination.

Ah, I got the feel of supination.

I'm never coming over the top again.

Just like, yeah.

I'm never going to have a drink again.

That's BS.

All right?

You're going to falter.

You're going to have to pick yourself up.

But don't self -sabotage.

Get the answers of what you need from go to me, Chuck, Anthony.

It doesn't matter.

You're a local pro.

Hey, this is what's going on in your swing.

Set the goal of how I'm going to get to there.

What drills or what combo of drills do I need to do?

And get.

Good at being boring.

For anybody that watched, for anybody that did C4, that watched any of my journey working on those things after I blew up my entire body.

There was a comment that somebody made, I think it's like the second video I posted, like, Craig, I can't believe how disciplined you are to sit out there and just hit this impact over and over again for an hour.

Yeah, well, I don't want to go back and redo this again.

I don't want to move past this.

But I can do it every single time without thinking about it now, so that's I'll leave that be.

I know we got other questions and I'm talking over time.

Um, not to mention watching YouTube.

Everybody's always looking for this quick, high, quick fix, all right, and we're all doing it and we all do this.

We are our own worst.

I promise you, I hated the phrase, getting out of your own way.

And I'm like, tell me how I'm getting in my own way, and I'll get out of my own damn way.

This is striking a nerve, as you can tell.

Because we all do it.

Chuck's got a great golf swing.

Yeah.

He worked for it.

I've seen the work.

I've seen the reps.

It wasn't just like, oh, I invented this drill.

This works great.

Hey, now I swing like tiger.

If you're not getting to where you want to, let's fix it.

Let's do it.

There's no reason you can't.

We get in our own way.

Let's set a plan of attack, an achievable goal, get it down, move forward.

And don't move forward until you get that.

But the beauty about it is, is you don't have to take 10 years to rebuild a golf swing because you can combine motions.

Hmm.

Uppercut punch drill.

This is teaching me connection.

It's teaching me shifting.

It's teaching me sternum drop.

It's teaching me sternum raise.

It's teaching me power.

That's kind of the whole motion.

Now I can do this whole with the, well, now if I do it with the club, now I'm actually starting to feel like, oh, here, bam.

Oh, I'm actually starting to kind of get the feeling.

All right.

Anyway, Anthony, this is a Perrier Blackberry.

I hope you all don't think that I'm yelling at you, but the people in the audience don't really understand that maybe don't know me.

You just know me as a face on the TV.

I love my students.

I would die for my students.

All right?

For those of y'all that don't know me, I have an absolutely ridiculous passion for the game, as like with y'all.

But I'm on the other end of it.

You guys are swinging the club, and I'm sitting here watching y'all just being like, just do this.

Like, I know you can do this.

I've seen you do this.

Like, I think anybody can understand a teacher-student type situation.

I love you guys.

I do.

I want y'all to get better.

And I see why the people succeed.

And I see why the people don't succeed.

So let's all New Year's resolutions for golf right here.

Let's just stop beating around the bush and let's get this.

You don't need 10 years to redo this.

But let's figure out what's going on.

Let's set a plan of attack and let's achieve it before we jump to the next one.

Until you learn how to jump 10 feet, don't try to jump 30 feet.

Maybe jump 11 feet.

Anyway.

Sorry, I'm up here just ranting.

This struck a chord, man.

What am I supposed to do?

I can't drink on camera, so I'm going to be fired up.

I don't even have a Mountain Dew to keep me calm.

I have to drink this forever Blackberry Perrier.

All right, I'm going to answer this question, then I'm going to get to these notes up here, and then we'll have a good one for next one.

Explain how the body in the backswing has to go from flexion to extension at the top, why is it necessary and what it accomplishes?

So, the spine as the backswing is a combination of rotation, side bend and extension.

Right here, all right, so as I'm moving this way, moving into extension Does a couple things for me.

A, it starts to help me move my pressure back into this side.

But B, I'm aligning my spine into a proper supportive position.

If I move into flexion with my spine at the top of my head and everything, I'm going to change off the golf ball.

And I can't really facilitate proper rotation.

And then I'm going to have to have a lot of lateral motion to get everything to catch back.

The spine isn't this like perfectly straight piece of.

PlyWood All right, it's got a little curve in it right here.

So moving into extension is how I actually get my core, my scapula to align, but my spine to support this fast, active, dynamic motion.

The easiest way to answer this question is this If I swung a weight and I didn't go into extension, What would happen?

I'd go this way.

All right.

Now, as I go to here, my brain's like, oh, well, I don't want him to fall into his mirror and have seven years of bad luck.

Let's go into extension so we can support this weight with the body and the core at the top, which is going to automatically help me start to shift my pressure back this way to start driving in the downswing.

So it's the safe way of supporting it, but putting yourself into a powerful position to make a dynamic motion coming down.

Does this have anything with recircling or falling to the left?

Absolutely.

This is why I see tons of players struggle with weight shift.

They get here, and as they start to go back, because they think rotation is this kind of big horizontal motion with the shoulders, and so they get here, and they go like this, and they get an inflection at the top like this.

And now they're in a position we're getting back to this.

It's such a long journey, but the golf swing happens like that.

If I'm turning a quick two, I'm back on this side and going.

All right.

So moving into this extension is how it's very easy for me to support the club in a safe position, but also start to get my pressure back to drive this way.

All right.

I think I read that question right, but I'll get to that.

Anyway, I think I'm going over time.

My apologies for the people that I did not get to this question for me getting on that rant for a second ago.

But I will get to them in the next one, I promise.

I still have them on my list right here.

And what I might try to do is speed up the turnaround on these webinars when I can do them since we're kind of still in the off season.

This will be the last time I kind of do this for a few months.

For anybody still in here, I'm going to give you a discount for Unlimited if you want me.

Half off my group, but this is the last time I'm going to offer it.

It's New Year, so I always do it around the holidays, and then I'm kind of out from there.

So I'm going to put up on the board right now.

Half off if you want it.

I'm a terrible salesperson.

Hopefully, I don't have to be a salesperson once Goaty becomes self -aware.

Might have to be.

But if you want, and then you can always take a Zoom lesson with myself or with Anthony or join his unlimited group.

There's so many resources that you can get us.

But if you want that, I'm going to offer it one more time, but I'm going to kind of give it a few little bits.

I'm a little bit underwater, as they say.

But thank you again for joining me.

Hopefully you learned something.

Hopefully you took something away from I know I took away that I probably have a drinking habit and I care about my students too much.

And I need to make sure that I have Mountain Dew with me so I don't get too fired up.

But I hope everybody had a good time.

I hope that they learned something.

And with that being said, I'm going to go to the tape.

And I'm going to read the questions or answers I didn't get to that are on the screen.

And I will get to those questions that are there on the community.

I truly appreciate y'all posting things.

If it's not there, I got nothing to ask or I got nothing to talk about.

So keep posting those up there and I'll see what I can do about trying to get a little quicker turnover on getting a little bit more of these.

I got to do stuff in my schedule, but I'll try to keep them up.

I know that at least you're going to have them the first Wednesday of the month.

Like we got them going right there.

I'll see if I can try to squeeze in a little faster.

If you put in the questions, I'll do more of them.

Is that fair?

I think that's a fair deal.

If you put in more, or even if you put in more details, it might take a 20-minute explanation.

I'm happy to do that, too.

Okay?

So I'll put in more.

I'll make it happen for you guys and gals.

I want you all to get better.

All right?

Let's see.

Let's go to the notes.

Gary, I'm still stuck trying to master the chipping.

What's wrong with the chipping, Gary?

Master what's going on with it.

You have to tell me what's going on and then I'll answer your question.

David, we live in a world where we want instant validation.

Exactly.

That's kind of the whole problem.

And I think that one of the beauties.

You know, on my side, and I do understand that people get stuck.

Don't, don't get me wrong, I get all that.

But I think one of the beauties on my side is.

I've seen and been around all the high level players.

Not only kind of what it takes, you'll only see the good.

And what I mean is on television.

They're like, Hey, look at this shot, you know some of these guys if you would see what?

Their Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday looked like compared to their Thursday.

You're like, I don't even know how this guy broke 90.

So that's the kind of way it is sometimes.

Agreed, Pete, about the linear.

Older people learn different than younger.

You can't expect to learn at the pace that somebody at 17 does.

A step at a time, small goal or practice, test what we need.

Absolutely, Stephen.

I mean, if you want to get really complicated onto, like neuroplasticity and frontal lobe, and how kids learn versus us adults.

Once we've done something for so long, yeah, it's just but little.

That's Chuck and I and Anthony.

Especially when we're working with students or swinger views or lessons, or what have you?

We try to say, Hey, I know that there's 25 things wrong with your golf swing.

But this is the one that really kind of matters.

And if you just get this one, life and golf are going to be a lot better.

Like, yeah, we still got to get to that.

But 75% of your problem is because of this.

And the rest of the stuff is just kind of the, I always tell people, you know, like a house, like sanding, drywalling and all that.

Like, this is your foundational problem.

We get the foundation, we got a chance to build a house.

We don't have a foundation.

What's the point?

So it's not easy.

I get it.

Jack, do I stay with goat process and putt and chip or just goatee?

That's up to you.

I always tell people, if you're trying to completely rebuild your game, like I'm a crappy putter, I'm a crappy chipper, I'm all the fans or butts when it comes to short game.

Start with there.

For me personally, I would never.

touch my putting or work on my putting ever.

That's me.

But I think you have to take your own assessment of that.

If you're like, hey, my short game and all that, it's where I need it to be.

I'm looking for more consistency in my iron player, more consistency with my driver.

I'm not looking to try to.

Going from the GOAT code start to finish is a complete rebuild.

I'm going from scratch and working my way through.

GOAT is like, hey, I can learn to build.

It's a competent fundamental swing.

I can, I can increase my whip score.

I can learn how to move like a golfer.

That's what, you know, goatee is great for a lot of people.

Cause they're like, I don't, I don't want to, I don't, I'm not looking to rebuild, but I want to start to swing like a tiger or swing like a goat and learn what it feels like, you know, to move like them.

Then goatee is your thing.

I mean, that's, you know, that's kind of teach its own.

I've been at this since COVID and it's finally starting to click.

Goat was a big help.

Had to rid myself 40-year bet.

Well, that's awesome, Peter.

I'm glad.

And that's the thing.

I mean, for me, some of my biggest wins in golf have been not when I've tried to get it.

And I don't mean like winning a tournament.

I mean like figuring the whole process out.

Like how to release the club or fight the ball or shift my weight.

Uh, my takeaway.

It's been where I've kind of I've gotten out of my own way and just been like, all right, I'm going to do the wait a minute.

That kind of felt a little different than that.

Let me, okay, that was my old way.

That's what this one felt like.

Let me look at the camera, that is kind of different.

Well, I've never felt that before.

I kind of have a new insight.

Maybe that's, and you know, these light bulb moments to kind of get going.

And YouTube golf, yeah, that's, that's.

That's ruined literally everybody.

And it's funny, I say that, because we obviously we have YouTube videos, but it's I always call it like when I'm scrolling on Instagram or something and somebody gets pulled over by a cop and they're like, oh, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And the officer's like, no, you're going to jail.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It's like, hey, your social media influencer didn't go to law school, as my father always said.

Now, obviously, I know he has a little bit different with this, but my father for the last how many years is like, look, Google didn't go to med school.

All right.

I've been doing this for 40 years.

I'm happy that Google said like, oh, you got cancer.

No, it's not really that you have cancer or you're dying or anything like this.

This is what's actually wrong.

My dad, he's a physician, been practicing physician for 50 years.

Still to this day.

So I'm not seeing much in the community about Goatee.

Are people emailing directly or is there a separate community?

I'm not seeing.

Most people are contacting directly, Dennis.

Feel free to go to the community and I'll make sure all that gets the people it needs to get to.

But most people are contacting directly.

On the 17th uppercut message, I figured out I was using the lead arm and not enough trail arm or rotating the shoulders enough to get the uppercut.

Cool, Kemper.

And one of the big things with that too, just like that right there, on the 17th uppercut, I figured I was doing it with this versus this.

It's the same thing we like with the trail side.

Why?

I was trying to overwork my lead leg, but I completely forgot about, well, Chuck said, I need to have this trail side drive.

And I completely forgot about that.

Not me.

I'm saying that this is what I see on a daily basis.

And that all of a sudden is what it clicked.

Gary, 40 years ago, I decided to give up.

40-a-day smoking happened, and I did just like that.

I could afford to smoke or have a wife.

God, how I missed those cigarettes at first, but now I've got a great wife.

Shame about the golf swing.

Well, you can do that same thing, Gary.

What's wrong with your swing?

Now, if this is the same, Gary, with the mastering chipping, we'll get to that if you send anything in.

But it's the same thing.

I can commit to stopping today.

Now, quick question.

40-year-go habit, did you quit that day and never have one ever again?

Ever, ever, ever again?

No, I'm going to just hang out in the guy's locker room, maybe get a couple secondhand smoking here just to kind of get going.

That's very high level.

That, for most people, is not achievable.

It's just not.

But there are people that can do it.

I've done certain things like that before in my life where I've completely just quit like that.

It takes an absolute insane amount of discipline to do it, though.

All right.

But like right there, he's got a big motivating factor.

But did you ever do it again?

Slip up just once.

Now, think about that for the vast majority of people.

They're going to have little falls and slips up.

And that's the same thing as building a golf swing.

David, you're never afraid to keep it real.

Unfortunately, that is the truth.

Um, it's probably what keeps my bank account low is because I just I'm gonna tell people how it is.

I've, I've been in this game, in this business and all that way too long.

Um, I, why not?

You can, you can agree with me, you can disagree with me.

I, I.

I like debate, I like the talking, I like to spurn conversation, I like to spurn new thoughts and intelligence, whatever you want to call it.

But is there any other way to live?

I think that's not to get on life, but that's kind of the problem with everything today.

Just got to keep it real.

Got to shoot people straight.

Sometimes people can't handle the truth, but sometimes you got to hear the truth.

Steven, you've been with RST for 10 years.

I appreciate that.

Very much so.

Carrie, when going into extension in the backswing, doesn't that cause the sternum to raise up?

If you go into crazy extension, yeah.

So how do I keep my sternum during the backswing while going into extension?

Well, what should your head be doing as you're going into extension?

If I was getting here and I was losing connection with coiling and I was going into extension, then I'd be going up.

But what's my head doing in the backswing?

So that's torque bridge drill.

What's my head should be doing right here?

As I'm going into extension right here, What's my head doing?

My head's going down because I'm coiling and going deeper, so it's actually keeping my sternum going more like this.

So what I would say is I would, and this is going back to the thing, assessing the problem.

To me, it's not your extension isn't your problem.

It's how you're coiling into your hip.

That's why your sternum is going this way.

You have to go into extension, but you're not coiling correctly, which isn't allowing your Third, I'm going to stay down here as you do it.

Do you use rotator cuffs when exploding in the downswing?

I mean, your rotator cuffs, I mean, I blew mine out.

They're involved.

I mean, I don't think I can, I've never really tried to isolate feeling my rotator cuffs.

They're a ball.

Pat, I'm always four to six behind impact with the ball, fat, fat, fat.

Well, Pat, what's the vast majority of what causes fat?

You need to look or use me or Anthony or Chuck to remember, why are you hitting it fat?

Is it because of lack of weight shift?

Is it because of lack of post-up?

Is it because you're getting steep?

Is it improper setup?

That's why you have to get some information on what you're swinging, whether you're asking Godie, myself, whatever.

Get me my information.

What's causing my fat shot?

Am I pushing with my thumb?

Once you figure out the problem, okay, this is what I'm doing.

I'm getting fat.

It's because of this.

What's causing that?

All right, come hell or high water, I might shoot 95 today, but I'm not going to push on my thumb.

I gave up on so many golf rounds to commit to making the movement to get it down.

Even when Tiger was making his changes, I don't know if you all remember back in the day when he made a bunch of different changes, he had some rounds where he was just like, what the hell is he doing?

He doesn't care about the Perrier Open.

He's trying to get this down, so by the time he gets to the Masters, he doesn't have to think about this anymore because he's done it in context at speed under pressure.

Can you demonstrate what the uppercut drill looks like when you translate it into the golf swing and what your thought That's going to be a little tough for me, Steve.

Can you demonstrate what the uppercut drill looks like when you translate it into the golf?

It's tough because you have to do it with two arms.

I think.

Chuck and I have been talking about this on the side, but that one might have a version two of a reshot because when you think about the uppercut drill, here I'm coiling, this is getting back, and now I'm having this explosion and impact.

So as Chuck says, I'm here, like this is, I'm trying to load the ground.

But if I look at that in context of a golf swing, it doesn't look any different than a golf swing.

I'm here coiling.

As I start to get my rebound and my lowering and I get this loaded right here, I think the easiest and best way to show you or to answer this question is that once I get here and I kind of have this unweighting, this is my field.

Remember how the sternum graph works.

It doesn't work like just this and this.

It's got this dropping back up.

All right, he's got a boom.

So to me, the uppercut punch is, get it over here.

Now.

I'm not going anywhere and I'm getting my punch because I'm not trying to move this one.

I've, I've, I've made my plant, I'm not going and I'm punching because I'm, I'm here.

Or even like an along driving, I'm going back away from it, so that's.

It's just tough to show with two hands.

It's kind of like a pull-up jumper.

Like, I got here, and now I'm.

That's kind of the way I think about it or see it.

Steven, how do you email direct?

Chuck had at the beginning.

I think it was chuck at goatcode.

ai for major problems that were going on with it.

I threw away all the way on that day.

Great, Gary.

That's awesome.

But see, this is what we would call an outlier.

So if you're the chipping person, why the hell are you stuck mastering chipping if you did this?

But you're what we would call an outlier.

There are not many people that could do that.

It takes a high level of discipline to do that.

Or your goal is different.

I mean, you said a wife.

I'm going to lose my wife if I quit smoking, if I don't quit smoking.

But I love my wife more than anything in the world.

That's a hell of a motivating factor to have some discipline.

But you're still an outlier.

But if you have that kind of discipline with the chipping, there's no reason you shouldn't have the chipping.

By consistency, I mean trajectory and distance go together, of course.

Well, trajectory is distance, just like speed is line.

Derek, can you explain, demonstrate the positions, the hands at the top of the backswing to ensure the club face is square on impact?

Can you please explain and demonstrate the position, the hands at the top of the backswing?

Well, the hands really don't do a whole bunch.

I think that's the bigger context to this is that as you're making the backswing, the lead wrist and the trail wrist, I'll do it from both views, don't really change that much.

As you're going back.

So the lead wrist is maintaining its extension right here, as the trail wrist is maintaining some of its flexion.

And there's not really a big change up here towards the top, all right.

So my, my wrist, even though I've lost a little bit cupping, I probably started to address with that and now it's about to here.

Because it's some natural setting of the wrist.

So when I get up here, I'm still going to have just a slight bit of extension in my trail wrist, it's not going to be both, or my lead wrist, not going to be both.

It's not going to be like this.

My trail wrist is going to be back in extension a little bit right here.

And then as I start down, there's going to be a slight increase as I supinate in the extension of my trail wrist.

I'll keep it this way then.

And as that happens, that's what you can see my face right now.

As I'm increasing right there, what's my face doing?

It's actually staying square.

So when I get down here and I get into position, my wrist is quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet, not really doing a whole lot, not really doing a whole lot, going into supination.

Supination is taking my trail wrist into extension.

Look at my club face.

It's square.

I didn't really have to do a whole bunch.

There was no, like, major, like, to get that thing going back.

Hopefully that helps.

And if you do the sound effects with it, it really makes a difference.

Exploding.

Yeah, I mean, they're involved, but I've never tried to isolate using my rotator cuff.

Can you show the helicopter drill at GDP and then the follow-through?

The helicopter drill at GDP.

So you're saying, well, if I got the helicopter drill right here, like that's.

I'm assuming that's what you're meaning is like in the J release version.

So if I'm helicoptering, so I'm supinating, deviating, and rotating, then as I'm doing this, the easiest way to do it is think about this, which is essentially the same thing as this.

So if I'm here, and I'm in GDP.

So as I'm going from here, my club face doesn't really have a whole bunch to do.

You can see it right there.

So if I'm here and I'm supinating and I'm pivoting, and I think that's some of the big, everybody's just going like this.

Like they do J release and they go like this.

Or the helicoptering and they're like, I can't hit GDP.

Well, you have to let your body react to the throwing of the club or the supinating and helicoptering.

So that should still be GDP right here and into the release.

GDP doesn't change with it.

I think the big thing is people forget to pivot.

So can you show the drill at GDP and then follow through up?

So if I'm in GDP right here, what's going to happen is I've still got some residual straightening right here.

It's not active.

I've already hit my peak with my post.

It's just residual energy left right here.

And as that's happening, this is squaring up right here.

And then as this is squaring up, I'm pretty darn quiet into this position.

So it's kind of like once I'm here, I'm.

It's really not a whole lot going.

You don't want to go like this.

The shoulder plane is going to kind of steepen a little bit as this is releasing, but you also don't want to just keep pushing through because just like that acceleration-deceleration, I've got to get some snap in here.

Got to get some.

Snap.

So I'm going from GDP, got some residual motion right here.

The club's snapping through.

Now, that's why if you think like the 160 speed video, Chuck's sitting here at the start saying, hey, look, just get these soft and get used to that.

And now wide plant.

Once it's wide plant, now you get that.

And this is just slinging the stone or skipping the rock.

All right, I'll take two more before I pass out.

It's been a 14-hour day on this.

Thanks so much for the explanation.

I bet it's hard to explain because it's hard to translate in my mind, but that did help.

Good.

Glad it helped.

I'm glad.

Steve has another one, but something's covering it on my screen.

With Chuck recently talking a lot about letting go of old thoughts and allowing himself to evolve in terms of teaching things to Goatee and AI, what would you say you guys are feeling are the true, absolute best thoughts and movements to achieve the swing of the goats?

Where are you leaning towards in terms of one overarching feel to simplify everything?

Man, that's tough.

I think that's why.

I'm going to leave that one to Bossman, Steve.

I'm going to give you a little bit on this.

What would you say you guys are feeling are the true absolute best thoughts and movements to achieve the swings of the goats?

Boy, that's tough.

One of the big things, or one of the reasons why we put such an emphasis on the sternum drop is because that is one of the biggest overriding thing we've seen.

Across the board, and then when we compared it to amateur swings, or look at amateur swings and all that, that is one giant outlier.

That was massively different is that the goats had a way of not relying to everything on their arms.

The goats had a way of ensuring that they use the ground correctly, and they used their legs.

But they didn't really look like they're working so hard for it because you didn't really see it.

Like if I were to get up here and I see somebody go like this, you can clearly tell I'm using my legs in the ground.

All right.

But in a golf swing, when I'm going like this, do you really see that?

Did you really see like a big sternum drop or anything like that?

You don't really see that, but that's really what's actually going on.

But because of all these functions that are.

you know, moving throughout the swing, you don't see it.

But that's a little bit why that outlier is there with that.

And where are you leaning towards in one overarching field to simplify everything?

We're working on that one.

I know Bossman is.

So I gave the explanation of trying to have a drill.

That wasn't just, okay, sit on the left side.

Craig did that for a month.

Okay, well, I can sit on the left side and post.

Like coming up with a drill board, it's a combo of movements.

Like if I do this, then all these kind of things happen to fall in place.

Just like with J release or helicopter supination.

If I supinate and I deviate, the club at some point is going to pronate right here.

I can feel when it wants to do that.

And that's a very full overarching motion for the entire swing.

So with that being said, I'm going to leave that.

We're working on trying to see because we can see like the sternum in these things.

And I know I know boss man is trying to like, you know how he is, you know, take a 30 ,000 foot view and then try to get it down to its absolute sand pebble of what's really matter.

So we're still having to dig right now.

It's advancing every single day.

I know it's not the answer you want in terms of simplifying everything, but just think of everyday motion of slinging a stone, throwing a ball, swinging a weight, using this thing right here or kettlebell or something like that.

A lot of these things you kind of already do, and you don't know that you're doing them.

Like a lot of the problems that I see in players' golf swings daily.

That Anthony sees daily.

They would not do in anything other than golf, like if I, if, if I.

If somebody that struggles with weight transfer in golf, you know myself.

Or Anthony said, Hey, I've done this in a lesson before or been like, Hey, here's a ball once you throw it at me.

Why?

why'd you shift your weight?

Why did you post up on your, why didn't you throw it with your knee bent like this?

Why all of a sudden you, what was that?

What was this?

Why, when you're golf swing, you're here and you're hitting with your knee bent, swinging with your arm like this, but I told you to throw a ball and all of a sudden you did every single thing I need you to do with your lower half of the golf swing.

And it's because somewhere along the way, either somebody told you to do something, confused you, or you saw something and inputted that data.

Or when you started doing it, like, I think this is what weight shift is, so I'm going to start doing it this way, and you refuse to look at yourself on camera.

Well, a lot of these things are very simply getting put to, you kind of already do them in everyday life.

You just don't know it.

David, can you demonstrate the torque bridge drill?

I can.

What is there is there a certain part you're confused on it?

So I mean, essentially right here is I'm, the feeling is I'm, I'm coiling up my leg right now.

I'll do this again, if I've.

I know I've lost about half the room right now and I think that was a question, so I'll do it again, Yeah, I'm trying, I'm coiling up my trail leg right here, and as I'm coiling, what's happening is I'm moving deeper as I coil, which is getting my sternum down.

And I can.

Still, you can see, I'm going into a little extension with my spine and this is allowing me to get up to a position where now I'm building such so much torque that I kind of have to start to shift back to my lead side.

And as I start to build so much torque to recenter, this is where now I can actually start to be snappy.

I've because I've started to unweight my trail leg.

And now I can use all that torque and coil and be snappy to get my legs and get into the position where now I can post up and get my sternum and all that through impact.

So, I mean, essentially I'm going down, down, through.

And don't be afraid of the fact that you've got to drive.

The big thing that I've seen on Torque Bridge is that as players are doing this, they're afraid to drive with their trail side.

Once you start to unweight right here, you have to.

We're not saying early extend and push off your toes this way, but you've got to drive with it.

Turning the right foot out and hip going back.

Well, David, I'll just give you a quick one.

Take your position like this.

Turn your foot this way.

Without your head going everywhere, load into your trail side.

So without my head going this way, load into your trail.

Hip, What do you feel?

Do you feel this kind of internal femur rotation?

You start to feel a lot of tension and tightness right here.

What does my hips want to do now if I don't, and now if my head goes over here?

I don't?

But if I'm staying centered right here and I'm trying to push into my hip, like, push my hip deep, I can feel it.

So now if I go back like this, okay.

Now I can feel my butt and all that engage room.

Hopefully that helps.

All right.

That's good.

Hey, awesome.

I just, I mean, I didn't come up with that, but I just came up with that on the fly, so to speak.

But that's how we all do things.

All right.

I'm going to end up with this last one right here.

Thank you, sir.

Sorry.

I know.

Hard to answer.

I was just really intrigued when Chick, remember, I'm Ron Burgundy.

I read it how it's wrote, said he's really learning to let go of old thoughts.

So I was curious if he had an aha.

There's an aha moment every day.

Thanks for all you guys do, and always thanks for your time.

I appreciate that.

I really, really do.

I don't think people in golf space really get that this is my life.

So I truly appreciate that.

Hopefully I can continue to.

Once Skynet and Terminator take over.

So thank you.

I appreciate that.

See, that's crazy, Pat.

David, that's good.

Steven, great night.

Thank you.

I appreciate your thought.

Well, I don't know why everybody thinks it was a good.

I mean, I feel like this is one of my worst nights.

I mean, I grade myself on how I do up here.

Or I remember how I do.

So I appreciate that.

I felt I got on a rant for a little bit too long.

Go Pats.

I can say that now.

I mean, I'm not rooting for them, but my team's gone.

And they're cleaning house.

Thank goodness.

I mean, that's – they're finally cleaning house.

John Go Pack.

I've got Packers.

I've got all sorts of people in my unlimited group.

I've got Bears fans.

I've got Packers fans.

I've got Pats fans.

My Jets fans have crashed and burned.

I've got people in all sorts of neck of the woods.

College football obviously was not fun for me last week, but.

I think that we way overachieved for this season because it was definitely supposed to be a down year for us.

So I think it was a hell of an achievement this season.

Commander, hey, you know what?

But there's hope for you, Pat.

If you look at last season, we know this season didn't pan out, but you don't have Snyder.

You still got a franchise.

I'm assuming he's going to still be the franchise quarterback.

So anyways, the left coast Niners.

That's a tough one out there.

I got my thoughts on them.

That's a tough one.

But good luck to everybody's team.

If they're playing, if they're gone, then hopefully you're getting the right elements in place so that next season will go good.

All right.

So thank you again.

I appreciate everybody for stopping by.

Cowboy, yeah, we don't talk to you people, Anthony.

You're just delusional.

So thank you again, everybody.

I know practically everybody's left, but for the ones that stayed around, I truly do appreciate it.

We will do this again.

I'll try to get to more of these.

If you post your questions in the community, we have more of these.

I have less questions.

We have less of these.

It's a self-fulfilling philosophy, so you want to put up with me more.

Jerry says they'll win next year.

Yeah, they've been saying that the last 30 years.

aaron thanks for your time we appreciate it uh no problem no problem all right that's it perfect all right well everybody have a good evening i will see y'all again if i can find the end button this is my problem with updates anytime there's an update and it's worse where is the end button now