Fix Overswing/Across the Line - Flying Right Elbow

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If you want to cure your overswing/across-the-line swing, you first need to diagnose the cause. This video will show you the 4 main causes and get you started on your path to correcting yours!

  • 4 Main Causes Over Swinging:
  • Right Knee Bent and Forward
  • Limit Hip Rotation to 45 Degrees
  • Right Arm Wide and In Front Of Torso
  • Wrists Do Not Fully Set in Backswing


another really common cause of the overswing and getting across the line and for those of you that aren't sure if you do this look in the mirror look at your video when you look at your swing and if you see that club pointing to the right of the target you're in trouble because the club has to try and reroute itself or you're going to reroute the club from back over here and it needs to somehow get back on the target line and so not only is it going to lead to dramatic inconsistency with ball flight direction but also with the quality of the strike because most golfers who swing way across the line tend to come way from the inside and the club comes in really shallow now if the higher handicapper who gets way across the line then starts to come way over the top too so we don't want to do that if you're at that level we really need to focus on just some really critical fundamentals that are going to get you getting the club on plane at the top because it makes everything so much easier coming down if you're not trying to make all these compensations from the top of your backswing after all the backswing is the easy part to get right the downswing is the part where stuff is really happening very quickly and there's a lot more moving parts that are happening a lot more explosively so if we're in a bad position at the top that's going to make it really hard unnecessarily difficult to get the club down into a good position coming down to impact so how do we get this club from going way across the line well we need to understand what would allow the club to get into that position the first one that i want to talk about here is what this right arm does if you're a left right -handed golfer during the backswing now if you've watched the five minutes the perfect backswing video you know that really the arms only do this during the backswing but if your arm does this guess what's going to happen to that club the arms should never ducked away from the body during the backswing like this because guess what that does to my wrist it makes it point in now looking at the camera from this perspective this looking from the camera this would be on plane as you're doing this drill this would be across the line now notice what happens to my left wrist it gets into this cupped position and how i'm doing that is taking my right arm and moving it away from my body and that is what's going to get you into this position so if you go to the top and you look like this check your right elbow first if it's getting into this position you know for a fact that you need to go back and watch that five minutes the perfect backswing video because you're doing way too much with your right arm and what you need to do is take your body get the club up to the top with your left arm and bring the right arm up to support it underneath so that it's not swinging out away from you the right arm you should feel that your bicep is still touching your chest at the top of your swing it shouldn't be pushed way out like this there's no reason for it to ever go there so that's the number one thing that you're going to check now from there you could still get pretty floppy with your wrist and so what i want you to then look at is the position of your wrist let's just pretend that your elbow is in the right spot but you still have the club across the line at the top is your left wrist cupped if so flatten it out now notice just making one little change from a cupped wrist to a flat wrist look where the club goes moves it several feet just by making that one little tweak so if you put those two checks together the right arm staying in front and the left wrist staying flat the club will have a really hard time going across the line at the top so as far as the going across the line check the arms first and if the arms are going wrong then you need to go back and look at that right leg video where i'm talking about loading up the right leg so that you don't straighten up your right knee and let your hips slide because that will also allow you to get across the line at the top

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Ton
I want to add a fix that might be overlooked, at least for me it's been an eye opener. The grip. I struggle with over swinging and going across the line and although I was guilty of both; cupped lead wrist and elbow flying away, my feeling of not getting loaded enough (and therefor could not really fix my over swinging) did not disappear until i came across your (Chris) video on the perfect grip. Seemed like I had a way too weak grip and looking back at it, did give me a feeling going to the top that something was wrong (weight of the clubhead not being in the right spot and therefor not feeling natural) This caused me to 'seek' for that feeling in the top of the backswing, which made me come across the line and over swing. Maybe I'm the only one doing this wrong and I am still looking for a shorter backswing but strengthening my grip significantly has helped me a lot. Is this a common fault or not? I would have wanted to come across the grip video sooner, for me it did more than just affect ball flight and easier release, it gave me a more natural feeling of the whole backswing.
August 19, 2020
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ton. A weak grip can lead to a lot of problems for sure. However, most players are just way too active with trail arm causing the over swing. Nevertheless, the proper grip probably helped you attain what it is like to steer the club less which allowed you to keep the arms more in check.
August 19, 2020
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Ton
Hi Craig, thanks for your quick reply. What u said is so true, feels like my arms and club don't need to do so much to get the proper feeling of 'little hands and arms / much lower and upper body movement'. It even gives my 'mind' the probability to soften arms and wrists for I don't have to think about keeping it short and compact.
August 19, 2020
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Walter
How do I maintain contact with my chest and bicep and still achieve keeping a straight right arm as long as possible in the takeaway?
October 5, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Walter. Upper Bicep and Upper Pectoral. The only way to achieve is you have to gradually add some elevation. Take a look at 4 Square Drill, or Pool Noodle Drill.
October 5, 2019
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Ronan
Hi, Chuck talks about two things for a club across the line at the top, the right elbow flying out and the left wrist that needs to be flatten out. I Think that i'm more onto the second option. I' have a tendency to have a stiff right wrist (stays straight, like on the image), so a cupped left wrist. I've worked on my way to the top and its now pretty decent, so it doesnt come from that. How could i cure this problem? Should i consciously try to flatten the left wrist? Its another thought to add to the other so it could be confusing... or coud it be cured another way? I'm pretty aware of the problem and i've watch all the videos on the subject, but it remains something i fight to cure Thanks !
April 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ronan. It does look like the wrists are a little bit stiff. But, more that you are missing some lead shoulder socket rotation. Take a look at the How to Keep the Left Arm Straight Video and the Winter Golf Program Training - Backswing Video. I would make some lead arm only backswings. If they tend to be on plane with the club pointed in the right direction. The you know the culprit is your trail arm interfering. If it tends to cross the line lead arm only. Then, you know you are allowing for enough rotation and flat lead wrist.
April 1, 2019
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Ronan
Well left arm only my swing is in a good position at the top. So it means my trail arm interferes right? but how can i cure that ? Actually even when i want to have the feeling my right wrist is loose, it is still across the line at the top... And I have no idea if my lead shoulder socket miss rotation, i don't really feel it during the swing !
April 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Ronan. Yes, that means your trail arm is interfering. Sounds like you need a little more external humeral rotation of the trail arm. Take a look at the 3 Functions of the Right Arm and Creating a Swing Plane Video.
April 2, 2019
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Thomas
looks like to me that he also has too much hip rotation. You can see a big gap between the knees at the top. That means the right knee has not maintained the flex it had at address. I know it will straighten some but if the hips rotate too much the club goes across the line. It only took me 3 years to fix that and most of it was the hip rotation and some was also the the wrist positions.
May 31, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. Hip rotation isn't that bad. It's the trail knee flexion loss. One of the reasons I referred him to the Winter Backswing Video to deal with the flexion loss. Chuck emphasizes loading the trail glute and keeping the knee more secure to not over swing. Thanks for the post. I agree over rotation of the hips and knee flexion leads to a lot of over swinging and bad issues.
May 31, 2019
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Thomas
You work too hard if you replied to my stuff so quick, especially at night. I work with Chris Tyler and this across the line stuff was a battle for me, but I finally beat it with Chris's help. After trying to do it with other non RST teachers I didn't think I would ever do it! In my case the trail knee flexion loss allowed my hips to over rotate and across the line the club went. Now I activate the hell out of right glute (right handed), the knee flexion stays in place and I can't over rotate the hips. Sound right?
May 31, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. No worries. I haven't had a day off since the first Bush was in office. . Don't forget proper elevation keeping the arms in front. I met you one time when you had a lesson with Chris. Exactly. That trail glute loaded and knee flexion staying in place. Pretty darn hard to over rotate! Now, I gotta go eat. Have to get up at 5AM to teach the clinic tomorrow .
May 31, 2019
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Thomas
I remember meeting you surprised you remembered me. Sorry for adding to that work load. I don’t know how you do it.
June 1, 2019
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. Sadly, I have a brain like an elephant. Probably why I don't sleep much . No worries. Sorry for the late reply. The clinic ran a little over yesterday. Have a great Sunday.
June 2, 2019
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Thomas
Nice short and sweet video. I think I have been guilty of all of the causes, especially the poor right arm position and the straightening the right knee resulting in too much hip rotation. One question: Is it ok to have the right upper arm get a little behind the body with the driver?
September 24, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Tom. You don't have to keep it glued. But, try to maintain some awareness that the upper bicep and pectoral are staying pretty close.
September 25, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Hi Andres -- There are several factors that attribute to the club getting across the line. Sounds like you are dealing with a big lead arm push in your backswing and yes, this can be a big fault as it causes the swing plane to become very inconsistent and makes it harder to get things perfectly lined up on the way down without some sort of compensation. Check out the 3 functions of the right arm video and the rotary connect backswing video as well as 5 mins to a perfect backswing video for more info that will help you get the problem resolved.
July 18, 2017
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Andres
Ok I will do that thanks. I definitely take the club too much inside and I'm working on taking it more outside. How can I know if the take away it's too much outside ?
July 18, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
No problem. You can check by looking at where the clubhead is at the completion of the takeaway. It should be in line with your hands when the shaft is parallel to the ground and the butt end of the club is down the target line. Making a perfect takeaway without having to worry about where the club is, can be made really easy by focusing on weight shift and body turn by pulling your trail shoulder towards your center. Hope that helps.
July 18, 2017
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Andres
Thanks it does help. But seems like no matter what I do or how I take the club back I end up with a flying elbow. What are the main causes of the flying elbow ? How can I correct this ?
July 18, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
The main cause is a push from the lead arm in the backswing. You can correct it by doing lots of slow perfect reps at first and then gradually add speed the more you become proficient with the correct movements. You need to get 3000-5000 reps.
July 19, 2017
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Andres
Is it ok to think of keeping the right bicep attached to my chest during the whole backswing ? It seems that thinking that instead of thinking of keeping the elbow In front helps much more
July 19, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
Only the very top of the bicep connected to the top of the chest. Do not keep the arm buried into the side or you will be sacrificing width in the swing. I talk about this very thing in the 3 functions of the right arm video that I mentioned above. Did you watch that video by chance???
July 19, 2017
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Andres
I'll watch it as soon as I get home! Yes more like the shoulder attached really. Thanks a lot
July 19, 2017
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Chris (Certified RST Instructor)
My pleasure.
July 19, 2017
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Yuefeng. That video is no longer on the site. However, the same items discussed in that video are the same in the Over Swinging Video and the 3 Functions of the Right Arm.
July 20, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Loan. Winter Series Backswing, Using the Wrist Effectively and Efficiently, and the 3 Functions of the Right Arm.
June 25, 2016
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Michael. Thanks for your input. Appreciate the compliments of the site.
August 26, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Loan. I answered below.
May 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
The lead knee needs to stay as stable as possible going back. Now, some players with limited flexibility can struggle with this. Therefore, it can move a little back. Nevertheless, take a look at the Left Knee Laser Beam Drill in the Backswing Advanced Section. Don't think about it as how far the left hip should slide, but the trail hip maintaining its position. You will roughly shift back 1 inch with some hip rotation. Take a look at the Weight Shift Video Part 2 in the Weight Transfer Section.
May 8, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hello Marco. I am unsure how far clay can hit his 9 iron. I would assume average is around 150-55.
March 23, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Hey Francis. Tiger's right knee remains flexed. Snedeker's is more pronounced though and easier to see. Maintain that flexion all the way to the top. It will help build a solid foundation and some torque.
March 17, 2015
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Craig (Certified RST Instructor)
Make sure the right hand is on the club properly. If the grip is incorrect with the right, it will be hard too support a powerful set position at the top. Check out the 3 Functions of the Right Arm Video in the Backswing Advanced Section. Check to see that shoulder elevation is only to the base of the pecs, right arm not folding more than 80 to 90 degrees, and that you have a touch of external humeral rotation.
June 4, 2014
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