Q-n-A Webinar 12: Oct 1

Q-n-A with Craig Morrow, twelfth webinar, October 1st 2025

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I appreciate that.

I'm assuming that means you can hear me as well.

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My height and my width.

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I got to get this saved because somebody just signed up for a live lesson and I don't want to forget to do it.

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Good evening.

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Thank you, Dennis.

I appreciate that.

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So let me get this chair out of the way.

We are still.

Where can I put this?

Let me put it that way with it.

Try to keep it out of y'all's view.

I don't know if that's going to work.

So let's go this way.

I'm still in the hyper-zoomed view.

My apologies.

I could get on a rant, as I have with a couple students today, about construction work, but I'm not going to do that to you all and bore you.

So anyway, in the meantime.

For those of you that are new tonight, I'm RST Instructor Craig.

I will be your humble swing guide tonight.

As usual for protocol, I will let everybody get in the room.

I can see the counter increasing right now.

I give everybody that little bit of window and then we will get started with the questions.

And at the end, I will open it up to the group.

Now for newbies and returnees.

If you want any questions answered, you got to post them up in the community.

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Get over there.

Get your questions in.

All right.

If you ask the question, I will answer it.

It doesn't even have to be about golf.

It can be about anything.

I'll get up here and answer it.

We can talk about all sorts of things.

So I hope everybody's doing well.

I hope everybody's goat drills.

Goat performance and swing is coming along.

Hopefully these sessions are helping kind of clean up the last little what-nots you need.

And if you're just out starting out, maybe something will be enlightening tonight.

So with that being said, I'm just going to give everybody just a couple minutes and we will get started.

If you want to talk about anything in the meantime, I got nothing to do but sit here and talk golf or we can talk college football or we can talk construction and we can talk.

We can talk all sorts of stuff.

So, all right.

Tom, hey, how you doing, bud?

My question is what body movement creates the shallowing at the beginning of the downswing?

What body movement?

So you can't put it so much into a vacuum.

It's the lateral motion and it's the scap drop.

So it's this trail arm moves into external rotation as the scap starts to drop.

And the lower body moves laterally.

So if you think about it, it's moving this way as the scap drops and the arm externally rotates.

Because this lateral motion increases your spine angle.

And let's not get too crazy because I know where you are in your swing right now.

So let's, this doesn't exactly pertain to you.

I'm just speaking about swing plane and shallowing in general.

Think about it.

I've never seen a player come over the top that's in this position.

Have you ever seen anybody come over the top like this?

It's going to be really darn hard.

So as I move laterally, it increases my secondary tilt, which shallows up the club because your spine angle is going to be kind of directly linked to your swing plane.

If you think of how the goats train their lead wrist or the footwork video, Chuck talks about the swing centers.

So think about it.

The more this kind of chest center gets behind this, the more you're going to go this way.

The more it goes this way, the more you get on top of But for your case, Tom, for your case, It's going to be that lateral motion and it's going to be feeling a little bit of external and a little bit of scap drop as you're sitting there doing that pitching motion.

All right.

Do golf socks make you achieve better scores?

It depends on the sock.

I mean, if it's a really good moisture wicking sock, yes.

A good moisture wicking sock will help out the golf swing all day long.

All right.

Don't go out there barefoot or in sandals.

All right.

I've been struggling with the role of the arms in the swing.

They do nothing.

Understand that they effectively do nothing.

You answer your own question.

I long for the ride, but whenever I try to make the swing with that in mind, I kind of get floppy noodles.

How do golfers have structure with their arms and remain tension-free?

Well, Will, it's kind of the same thing like, you know, I've showed this in a couple other webinars.

And I agree with you, Glenn.

Good socks, too.

If I'm moving from my body and I have structure in my arms, all right, so if my right arm is staying straight and my left arm is staying straight and I'm moving from my core and I'm moving my weight, Where's my tension right now?

It's not in my arms.

It's in my body.

Like my core is tight right now.

My arms are pretty chill, to be honest with you, because they're moving with my body.

You don't want to get floppy.

Like you don't want this kind of that.

That's not maintaining structure.

That's actually using the arms.

OK, so an answer to your question, how do golfers have structure with their arms are remaining tension free?

Because this is what's working.

As I'm loading and rotating, my arms can stay chilled out.

But think about it.

I'll give you two examples and then we'll get started on tonight's agenda because this may help somebody else.

And Joe, I will get to your question.

Just remind me at the end.

So, well, let's think about it this way.

If I were to just swing my arms like this, that creates a lot of tension.

But I feel a lot of tension.

In this shoulder, I feel a lot of tension in this shoulder.

In my arms, I don't, this isn't healthy tension.

My arms are really tense right now.

Well, if I go like this, I'm exaggerating.

I don't have any tension in my arms.

All my tension right now is actually in my spine because that's not how you want to turn.

But all my tension is now in my body because my body has moved my arms.

Not my arms have moved my arms.

That's creating tension in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So to maintain structure, it's about moving that tension somewhere else.

There's something that, for anybody that's ever done a swinger view with me, especially in lead side pattern, something I've always said, and I will say it forever.

If you don't use your lower half, you're going to use your upper half.

If you don't use your upper half, you're going to use your lower half.

You're going to use something to get that golf club to the golf ball, all right?

You're going to use something.

So the tension in the arms, if I don't swing the arms and I create the tension here, I'm shifting the tension from my arms to my body.

So they remain tension free.

If I'm swinging with my arms, my arms have the tension.

My body doesn't as much as you.

So tension kind of shifts.

And what you're trying to do is you're trying to shift the tension inward to keep it out of these.

And more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more.

Often than not, the reason people's arms are tense.

Is because they're using their arms, they're not using their body.

If I get here and I load and rotate, my arms are chilled and I can keep them straight with relative ease.

But if I don't move my body and I try to get my arms up there, that's a lot of work, all right, that's a lot of work.

Um, and and Joe I, I will get back to you, all right, just just remind me, just remind me, Will, are you saying you actively try to keep the arms straight?

No arms doesn't mean limp.

No arms doesn't mean limp arms.

Correct.

All right.

No arms doesn't mean lift arms.

Now, some players are going to have to keep a certain amount of tension in their arms to keep them straight.

That doesn't mean no arms doesn't mean dead arms.

It doesn't mean you're just sitting here like, you know, like a dead fish.

All right.

You still have to maintain some structure with them.

All right.

But you can maintain the structure by moving your body so that their tension level is here versus here.

Make sense?

Somewhat, maybe, don't know.

Have you had a Mountain Dew today?

That will help you.

For returnees, you'll get that joke.

So without further ado, let's get to the questions.

All right.

I can't even read this printout.

Describe and explain the out-to-under move.

What is it, when, and why is it used, and what purpose it has?

The out-to-under move was basically the concept and axiom, which is still the same concept with supination or anything like that.

So this is how I'm interpreting it.

If it's not how you're wanting this question, then this is how I'm interpreting it.

The out to under move is basically that as you go back in the backswing, that the club stays outside and then works under on the downswing.

So basically an outside club playing, an inside club playing.

The reason why that's so important, I could get on a whole laundry list of things, but it's so the physics of the golf club works correctly.

All right.

So this club.

is swung on an incline plane with a toe that's designed to rotate around the heel.

All right.

And so when I start making a move or a physics move where this club starts to supinate and goes out and under, it puts the club in a position where it wants to do its rotation itself.

So I'm starting to balance out the club where it wants to rotate itself.

As soon as I start going under and out, I've now taken away how this club is designed.

It doesn't want to rotate, all right, it doesn't want to rotate now.

It's already done everything that it wants to do, all the energy and everything's already been expended this way.

And so what happens is you get forced having to speed it up.

So let's take the prototypical over the topper, all right, the prototypical over the topper.

Hits what kind of ball shot perfectly straight?

Or do they hit big slices?

they hit big slices?

Because what happens is they start going under in the takeaway and then out this way.

They have to manually square up this club because the club's not balanced on plane to be able to square itself.

So as they start coming down, they start screaming with their hands to try to get the toe to catch up, but you can't do it.

Once.

This pitch of the shaft is already on this side of your hands, all right, or this side of the earth, however, you want to look at it once it's on this side.

You have to scream your hands as hard as possible, and once you start having to scream your hands as hard as possible.

Now you start getting to where, you know, you start hitting toe slaps this way, getting the gear effect, you're getting all sorts of things.

But as soon as the club starts moving out, you are in control of this golf club.

You're going to be required to do everything for it.

When this club is working from under, the club is balanced to where this toe wants to rotate around the heel.

So to square up the club and hit nice little baby draws all day and have speed.

I don't have to do anything.

But as soon as I start changing it to, I mean, if you want to really understand the concept, you can literally just do what I'm doing right here.

All right.

If I'm like this and I'm just spinning it with supination, that's coming under, releasing out, coming under, releasing out.

And you can feel how the club wants to release itself.

Now do it opposite.

Go this way.

Try to make this circle going this way.

I can't get it to go back.

I'm really having to, but as soon as I go like this, I can do this all day long.

As soon as I go like this, now I'm having to speed that up.

This is speeding up on its own.

This is me having to speed it up.

So it goes into where over the toppers, I had this discussion with, I actually had this discussion with Tom earlier.

One of my biggest pet peeves when players are making full swings and they've struggled with over the top their entire life, is you got to get ugly for a second.

It's okay.

We got time to tighten it up.

Get a little out, get a little under, get used to getting the feeling of the club being balanced and shallowing out and coming through.

Do I want your swing to be like this?

No, I don't want your swing to be like that.

But if you're so used to going like this, I want you to live that way for a little bit, and then let's tighten the screws.

You've got to get used to what it's like to hit some big right-to-left shots.

There are so many things I wish I could give my students.

I wish I could give them just for a second my feel or just step in their body and be like, hey, this is what it feels like, so that they could own it immediately.

Like, oh, that's what Craig's trying to tell me to do when he's saying, hey, keep my elbow pit this way or do this or do that.

That's the only way to get new feels.

You have to live a little bit how the other half lives for a second.

Because if you've been like this your entire life, and then all of a sudden you start going like this, it's going to feel really awkward.

But as soon as you start doing it, you're going to be like, oh, wait a minute.

I'm starting to kind of get a feel for the club head and how the club head kind of wants to start to.

Move and rotate on its own.

I'm not having to force it so much like when I was going this way.

So the out to under move is to start to give you the feel of how to swing the proper balance of the club and to get the club to actually work for you.

Golf's hard enough, right?

So why make it harder?

Why not just follow the physics of this?

And it does the vast majority of the work for you.

This one I was reading, this looks like a loaded question.

I saw it as I was reading the first one.

How much mobility in the right shoulder should we allow us?

Should we restrict how much sideways mobility we can permit ourselves in the right shoulder?

Should we avoid flying the right shoulder a la Nicholas?

Or should we just let the right shoulder go back as far as it wants as it feels natural?

What are the consequences of this right shoulder motion, restricted or free -flowing?

What do the goats or tiger do?

Okay, so there's a lot of questions in this.

How much mobility in the right shoulder should we allow for?

Should we restrict the sideways mobility we can permit ourselves to have in the right shoulder?

And should we avoid the flying right shoulder?

So let's start with that.

So how much mobility should the right shoulder should we allow?

Well, you don't want to start shrugging your shoulder up to the sky like this.

You don't want to start being able to scratch your ear.

There's going to be a little bit of a play here.

It's got to be able to move this way.

It's got to be able to move this way.

I'm taking this from a right-handed perspective.

From a left-handed perspective, it's going to be going the other way.

But it's got to be able to have some mobility back and forth and to the side.

This shoulder socket, this shoulder joint, all this whole stuff is very, very important.

Okay.

Very, very important.

So it has to have some mobility, but you don't want it to be where you can literally scratch your ear like this.

You want it to just be able to have some play in it.

Just like if I'm just sitting here, just like a little baby shrug and moving it back.

It's got to be mobile.

It's got to be allowed to move so that you can swing.

You can allow for a little bit of sideways.

You can allow for a little bit of up.

Should you avoid flying the shoulder like Jack Nicklaus?

Well, Nicklaus had a big flying right elbow.

Can you do that technically?

Yes.

But this gets into kind of the law of diminishing returns.

If I get up here, the more I let my arm and elbow kind of fly, what do I have to do?

At some point in time, I've got to get it back.

All right.

The shoulder is going to have to come down to be able to connect to my body.

And at some point, my arm's got to get back out in front.

So can you allow for a little bit of a fly to get a little bit more turn?

Absolutely.

All right.

I forgot.

It might be goat backswing or one of the videos.

But Chuck talks about this.

In a lead side pattern, You really focus hard on keeping this kind of down and in because you're using a little bit more of your left hip.

And slinging the lag or slinging the leverage for power.

But in a goat swing, you want to allow for a little bit of mobility of the shoulder because as you start to move back, that scap drop into your spine makes that supination move much, much easier.

And it's like if I'm here throwing a ball and I'm dropping it down this way versus if I got the ball here, I don't really have a drop.

So this allows you to use a little bit more of the elevation and leverage versus just solely saying, I'm already right here.

My scap's already pressed.

All I've got is rotation left.

So having a little bit of mobility is okay.

Having a little bit, a little bit of fly is okay.

But the more I allow this to fly, the deeper it gets.

At some point in time, I've got to get this back out in front.

Or let's take a daily or Fred Couples.

If I let this thing go like this, well, most of us out there, me included, aren't patient enough.

So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait for that scap to get all the way back connected and then start to go through the shot.

So having a little bit of mobility, having a little bit of fly is perfectly normal, but you don't want to do that to an extreme.

It's not really going to do anything for you.

You still want to keep it in front because you don't want to be chasing, trying to get your arm back in front coming down.

Should we let the right shoulder go back as far as it wants, as long as it feels natural?

I want you to turn as much as you physically can.

I don't want you to get to the point where you're hurting yourself or you're pinching a nerve, but the better you can coil, take the rubber band.

The more I can torque that rubber band back, the more potential I have coming back down.

But you don't want it to be as a consequence of everything else.

It's kind of like a lot of players will get caught up on certain points of the swing like, oh, I've got to get this part of my takeaway or I've got to get this part of my downswing.

And they spend so much time trying to do that, that it's at the consequence of everything else.

It's kind of a whole picture you have to have in the golf swing.

There's a lot of things going on right here.

So like, say for me, right?

I'm a perfect example because I've broken everything in my body and I've got anchors all up and down here in my trail shoulder.

So when I get up to here and I get up here towards the top, that's about as far as I can go, all right?

Because I can feel it in my shoulder right now.

Now, back in the day, I'm going to do it.

It's not going to feel good.

Back in the day, I can really kind of get that back shoulder look right here.

But that's a strain for me now.

Could I allow for a little bit more hip turn to get a little bit more of that turn?

Absolutely.

But for me, when I start to do that, My arms start to go a little bit behind me.

I don't like my arms behind me.

I want my arms in front of me.

The one thing that I didn't want to have to do in my golf swing was ever get stuck.

If I'm not stuck in my downswing, I can hit whatever shot that I want.

And so the more my arms start to move across, that's what happens.

is that when my arms start to move across, I've got to get them back out in front.

So for me, that's about where I'm maxed out.

It's about right here.

That's all I got.

Could I get more?

Yes.

Do I need more?

Got to get a couple more yards?

Probably.

But not trying to get this extra bit right here doesn't wreck my hip turn right here.

It doesn't wreck my arms having to get back out in front.

So I'm not doing it so much to wreck the fact that.

For me, I'm like, oh, GDP.

I have zero problem getting to GDP.

My arms and hands are in front.

My shoulders are right here.

Like, literally, look at how hard it is for me to get into GDP.

I go here.

I go here.

So why would I sacrifice hitting the most important position for five extra degrees?

I wouldn't.

Some people do, though.

And then they're like, I can never get to GDP.

Like, well, it's because you can't.

What are the consequences of the right shoulder motion restricted or free float?

Well, if it's free flowing, you've got to wait, wait, and wait.

If it's too restricted, then your swing becomes too rotational.

What did the goats or tiger do?

Well, the goats and tiger, I mean, Jack had a little bit more free flowing, but he had enough lateral motion to wait long enough for his arms to get down.

Tiger was more like my version of the swing where he kept his.

Trail arm a little bit more nice and tidy up here.

He allowed for just a little bit, but not much.

But he allowed for just a little bit right here, so that when he dropped down, it was very easy.

That's that's where I like to be.

I don't, I don't like to be boxed in personally, I like to have options.

Um, and so the goats, they never really were in this.

I'm already Stuck down here to press.

They were a little bit more kind of lifted, had a little bit more depth.

Roy's a really good example of that because he's got a little bit more lift, and so he's got a little bit more depth right here.

But he is ridiculously patient in the transition if you've ever watched his downswing.

I mean, his arms and hands literally just come like this.

So hopefully that answers the question.

Unlike many sports where muscles and fascia, question mark, yeah, fascia is important, are primarily used in a more direct or forceful manner, golf emphasizes a technique that involves stretching muscles before they're activated.

Other sports do it too, allowing for a more efficient and powerful swing.

Talk more about this and show us how and where in the swing it's done.

Well, it's done all over.

I mean, I think that the, let me try to get to the root of this question.

In golf, it's all about speed.

Okay.

In golf, it's all about speed.

In some other sports and other things in life, it's about power.

All right.

I'm powerlifting.

It's about power.

But if you take tennis and you take baseball, there are a lot of similarities in those motions to the golf sport.

What's one big difference in those sports versus this sport?

Well, in baseball, one ball is moving at 90 miles an hour that you're about to hit.

Same thing in tennis.

Where's this ball?

Well, hopefully it's not moving at 90 miles an hour before you hit it.

But hey, you may be into some speed golf.

But the difference is, is our ball isn't in motion right here.

So if I'm trying to hit a 90-mile-an-hour fastball, I can use some more brute force.

I've got a greater error than I can have.

I can use more brute force, But my arms are going to tend to be a little bit more against and with my chest right here.

Because I'm bracing for the fact that I'm hitting a 90-mile-an-hour fastball.

The thing is, is this club, what's the difference between this and a racket and a baseball bat?

Well, a baseball bat just spins like a cylinder.

A racket's kind of the same thing.

This is only designed one way, all right?

If I hold the club up, toe up like this, and I let it go, what does it do?

The toe goes down right here, all right?

So what we're trying to do is maximize being able to get this to snap as hard as we can.

I'm not saying a baseball bat, you don't snap.

I'm not saying tennis, you don't snap.

But the physics of this club are completely different.

So in the golf swing, If you just think about it, kind of like a big rubber band, all right.

What we're trying to do in the golf swing is we're trying to take this big rubber band basically from our left foot to our right hand and stretch all the way up as much as we can.

So that as we come down, instead of having to manually push, manually muscle it, we're trying to stretch that rubber band.

Because we know that we can get this to snap.

Like, this club has some weight and some mass to it.

I can get that to snap.

In a baseball bat, I'm going to have to manually make, it doesn't have, it's not forced to rotate over.

There's nothing in it that's making it say, hey, I want this thing to rotate over.

But the club needs to snap to have some speed because it's designed.

So when we think of, you know, I call it the push versus pull issue with this question.

We need speed.

We don't need power.

It's the same example I used to use in the clinics all the time.

If a car was stuck in the mud, would I get up and try to pull it from the front bumper out, or would I go behind it and push it?

I'd go behind it and push it.

I can get a lot more power, a lot more force into getting that out.

The problem is, is if I start pushing too much with the golf club, I'm now going to override the physics of this.

To what it doesn't, it's designed of which what it wants to do is rotate.

It wants to square.

It wants to transfer speed.

All right.

I can't push that club faster than it can move itself.

That's why we have to stretch our muscles.

That's why we have to wind them up.

That's why we have to kind of have this crescendo.

And it's also why we have to, you know, have the counter torquing.

Because I'm trying to transfer all of this speed into this.

Right here, okay, because I need speed, well in baseball, I can drive hard.

Yeah, I mean, my bats can extend and do things of that nature, but I'm not trying to make the bat rotate like this or rotate and transfer that speed.

So I don't.

I can't get to the point where my pushing and my brute force is defeating the physics and the design of the club.

So I've got to get that speed another way because I need to transfer my power.

So that's going to be why we're stretching and we're driving into speed, why we're essentially, quote unquote, because I know somebody's going to say something about this, slamming on the brakes to transfer the speed.

So hopefully that kind of answers it a little bit.

I mean, you can take the long drivers.

I mean, look at, who is it?

Borgmeyer or whatever.

He's ginormous.

Think about.

It takes 32 pounds of muscle to create 100-mile-an-hour speed.

If I got more muscle, I can create more speed.

But how many times have you seen the 5'6 guy that weighs 120 pounds?

I mean, I grew up playing with Charles Howell III.

I mean, that guy literally is as big as his golf club.

He hits it an absolute mile, and he hits it further than my college roommate who was 6'4", 220, with relative ease.

That guy's swing was awesome.

So it's just the difference in speed versus power.

You need speed in golf, not power.

All right.

Why should we release after impact?

I think I answered this one in the last one.

That seems a bit strange, but probably has a good explanation because you can't transmit force.

I feel like I answered this one, but I'll go ahead and do it again.

Just do it briefly.

You release after impact because you need to be able to transmit force to the golf ball.

The fastest the club is going to be moving is going to be just after the strike.

But as I'm coming down into here, what are the couple parameters I need coming down into impact?

Well, one, I need my scapula down into position against my spine so that as my rotation goes, I can transfer core rotational speed through my arm, through my hand to the golf club.

You know, I said that really fast, but hopefully you got it.

And then as I move into impact right here, my trail wrist is still going to be an extension because I want my lead wrist inflection.

So I'm de -lofting the club, but also want to be able to have some snap down here.

If I were to come into impact.

And I already released it like this.

Well, now I'm adding Loft to the club, that's first, I'm adding Law B.

I've already deployed that speed so that potential speed and connection has already been fired.

You're trying to get You're trying to get almost to the point to where when you make impact, it's the last possible moment of delivering that speed to where it maxes out and then decels.

Because you have to be able to transmit force.

It's kind of like if you're throwing a ball.

I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm throwing.

But as soon as I make my wrist motion, after I do that, all the energy is gone.

I've got no way of transmitting any more energy.

So if I start to get down here and I start to release it.

or I try to make sure that my release is right at the moment of impact, I'm actually doing it in the slow, not slowest manner, but I'm actually slowing it down at that point in time because I need to be able to transmit this force through my trail arm from my body.

And as soon as my arm's fully extended and as soon as my wrist has already lost all its angle, there's nothing here that this can transmit.

There's no, the snap has already happened.

I can't have this.

I'm adding loft.

The club's already now two square, probably.

But there's no, I can't transmit force anymore because that connection is now gone.

That's why right after impact, it's just the safety acceleration.

Think about it.

Right after you release it, there's nothing in here.

It's because all the amount of energy has already been transferred through that.

That's why in the olden days in the clinics, we did it for more than just this purpose.

We did it for players to start getting face control and understanding de-lofting and things of that nature.

One of the big things that we used to do in the clinics all the time, or you saw me do in the C4, is we used to practice all the time where it'd say, okay, we want you to get here, set up a little bit of an impact position, get here, and then maintain impact to start to get a feel for de -lofting the club, for being able to transmit.

Through the shot this way.

And then once you get that, Start allowing for it to release a little bit, which will get a little bit more speed.

Because one of the biggest problems I see on a daily basis, Players get here and they release it early.

So they're scooping, flipping and they're like, I don't understand why I don't have any power.

While you're adding loft, You're adding too much spin, and you're releasing all your energy at the wrong time.

You have to be able to be in this extended position to be able to transfer power.

As soon as you lose this, it's gone.

Ben, loving the live Q&As.

Awesome.

Thank you for whoever this is.

When playing, I have a million thoughts going through my head.

Me too, but I never play golf, so I don't have to worry about it.

What do you focus on when playing?

That's tough.

I think it all depends.

As I said in another seminar, it all depends on what your purpose is.

Are you going out there to work on your swing?

Are you playing tournament golf?

Are you shooting for score or are you working on your swing?

That's two different animals.

If you're working on your swing, you still can't go out there with a laundry list of thoughts.

Pick one, maybe two.

And just put it in your brain, whether it's weight shift, whether it's shallow about the club, whether it's counter torque, whatever it is, just commit to yourself, come hell or high water, wherever this ball goes.

If I shoot 90 on the front nine, I'm going to counter torque on every single swing or I'm going to shift my weight on every single swing.

That would be playing with a purpose to make the swing change in real time.

So that you don't have to think about it because you're forcing yourself to kind of do it under the gun.

Now, tournament golf, there's lots of different theories on this.

Even Chuck and I are different when it comes to this.

And I've worked with some of the best psychologists out there, or golf psychologists, and even every single one of them have a different theory on it.

So when it comes to playing golf, You got a million of thoughts through your head and you're trying to play tournament golf.

One of the first things that you have to realize is there's literally only so much you can control.

You can't control the weather.

You can't control what your opponent's doing.

You can't control.

You can only do swings only two seconds.

So you can only do so much.

You can only think so much in one time.

But the first thing I think is, is you got to give up control.

And it's more than just like giving up control to release and all that or up to the golf gods.

It's more, there's only so much I can handle.

I can't do anything about the past shot.

I can't do anything about the future shot.

The only thing I can take care of was what's white in front of me.

All right.

Can't control the wind.

Can't control this.

Can't control that my competitor I'm playing against just made three birdies in a row and I'm coming off three bogeys in a row.

All I can control is what's in front of me.

So the first thing is, it really is about being in that present moment.

All right.

What can I do right now to execute this shot to the fullest capability?

Because I have literally no control over anything else.

Now your mind's going to pick up and sense everything else that's going around, but you have to really get to the moment of being like, I've got this shot in front of me.

Just use this as an example.

All right, 150 yards out and I've got the wind, I've got rain, or I've got a slope to deal with, or anything like that.

So let's say that's a nine iron for you, I got my nine iron.

What now?

Well, you know, Dr.

Mo, which I think he was the best at kind of describing this in my opinion.

And nothing against Rotella, nothing against any of these other guys.

I know all of them.

But he always talked about, you know, doing all your planning right here.

And as soon as you get what your plan is, you set it in your mind.

And then it's just about execution.

And so I've got this 150 yard nine iron.

Okay, wind's coming a little bit right to left.

So I need to favor a little bit of the right side of the green.

I'm a little bit on a right to left side slope.

So I know it's going to turn a little bit more.

So I'm going to adjust my aim.

All right, this is the feel of the swing that I want right here.

All right, that's the swing that I'm looking for.

And once I kind of get all the data and once I kind of get, okay, that's the, I'm always looking for the feel.

Like I'm never really kind of searching for the mechanic.

You know, you've seen like Justin Rose get up there.

He's like this and here.

And, you know, he's rehearsing kind of what he wants to feel in the swing.

He's not thinking like, oh, I need to shallow out the club.

It's like, this is what I'm trying to feel.

So I pick out my shot, and I'm like, okay, what am I trying to feel?

Okay, is that it?

I don't know if that's it right there.

All right, yeah, that's the feel that I want.

All right, so I get my feel.

I got my shot in my head.

Now when I step up to the golf ball, all it is is I've got a picture in my head of what I'm trying to do and feel.

To me, it's all about feel at the end of the day.

I can't.

Go and think of all these mechanics.

You can't do it.

I do that work on my swing when I'm playing nine holes and I'm trying to implement weight shift and all that.

I'm trying to get here and get the feel for the shot.

Because at the end of the day, that's the only thing I've got that I can really kind of go with is my feel.

So what do I do?

I do it by feel.

Figure out what the shot's going.

I can only control what's in the.

I can't control that my tee shot put me on this side hill slope.

I can't control that, you know, the pin's on the right side and I've got a very small window to try to hit it into.

This is the best shot I can do from here.

These are my data points.

I usually take one, maybe two swings.

That's the feel I'm looking for in the swing.

All right.

Got in my head exactly what I want to do.

And that's why.

Like slow golfers, I don't want to say drive me nuts, but drive me nuts.

Because as soon as I get that in my head, hopefully I don't hit one of these pictures.

But as soon as I get that in my head, where I'm like, okay, I'm here.

Oh, I got the field.

All right, I got it now.

I'm ready to go.

And then I get through.

And you can see I made a shorter swing and held off on it because I didn't want to kill Jack there.

So for me, it's all about controlling the only things you can control.

I like to do it by feel, all right?

I don't like to think.

There's so many.

I play the game.

I think that's what people have really lost in golf.

I think that's why there was kind of like a resurgence in golf, in my opinion.

Everybody went way too instructional and mechanical.

But it's like, how come all these homegrown swings are beating everybody with the pretty swings?

Because they learned how to play golf.

And they're not thinking about it.

They're hitting shots.

These people are thinking swings.

If you think swing and try to play golf, you're dead.

You have to play golf.

You have to play the game.

And playing the game means.

only playing the hand that you're dealt.

You can't take care of the next hand.

You can't take care of the hand beforehand that you just lost half your chips on.

So please discuss how to sit into your right side.

All right?

Right there.

And the feeling you have with your right hip as you increase pressure on the right side.

Well, I mean, for me, weight shift, 50-50, my weight's in my right leg, my weight's in my left leg.

All right.

So I don't try to make this like, oh, I've got to get way over here.

I'm like, all right, well, I'm 50-50 right now.

Now I'm 80%.

I didn't really have to do a whole bunch.

So the feeling I have as I start to increase pressure is all I'm really feeling is my right hip going back.

Like I'm really just feeling my hip going back this way.

Okay.

And so I can start to feel my glute a little bit right here.

I can feel my quad engaging a little bit.

And so I think.

Players take this loading concept way too literally.

They're like, oh, I've got to get loaded in my glute in the back swing.

I want the muscles to be alive.

I want them to be able to engage and work.

I'm not trying to do a one-legged squat press in my back swing.

Think about it more as you're loading.

You're just trying to recruit and engage.

You're not trying to.

Do a 200-pound one-legged squat press.

As you move your club back on the takeaway, is the motion pulled by your trail side obliques pushed by your lead shoulder or something else?

It's definitely not pushed by my lead shoulder, all right?

So for me, in the takeaway, my weight is starting to move this way.

My hip is starting to move behind me.

In my obliques, Or moving my arms and hands.

Now, as I do that, the lead shoulder needs to work down.

But that's not because I'm pushing with my lead shoulder.

That's just because my shoulders are rotating around my spine because I'm hinged forward.

All right.

But I'm trying to just take my right hip behind me, which is allowing my lead shoulder to work down.

And I'm taking it back with my obliques.

Definitely not pushing with the lead shoulder.

And so that's why there was an old video.

Uh, of Chucks, where he was talking about the takeaway.

And he's like, Look, and I know this is lead side, but it's the same kind of principles with it.

He's like, Look, if I just shift my weight and I rotate, I haven't moved my arms and hands yet.

I mean, I'm kind of at a takeaway right here.

I could.

I just said, a little wrist right there.

I haven't, I haven't swung my arms and hands, I haven't done anything.

A little bit of weight and a little bit of rotation, I'm already done.

My arms and hands have done literally nothing.

So that's why all I'm feeling is my right hip increasing a little bit in pressure.

Nothing crazy, but I feel an increase right here because I've moved a little bit of weight.

But I really feel my obliques doing all the work right there because I don't want to use my arms and hands.

When you finish the takeaway, your lead wrist is still cupped, correct?

And when you get to the top of the backswing, your lead wrist is flat.

Technically, there's a couple degrees of extension still in the lead wrist at the top.

It's not perfectly flat.

What is the movement of the wrist that accomplishes this?

So as you start to get towards the top, my arms are doing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

The trail arm is going to fold at some point.

So as my trail arm starts to add flexion, okay, my trail arm starts to add flexion.

You can see my club's getting a little bit more on this side.

So as my trail arm starts to add flexion, it starts to bring my hands across center line.

And the weight of the club starts to increase the extension in my trail wrist, which is causing my lead wrist to lose the extension.

All right.

So as my trail arm folds, the weight of the club is starting to fall back into my trail hand, which is increasing that extension, which is forcing this to start to get a little bit more flat looking.

Now, you don't want it perfectly flat at the top.

There's actually still a little bit of extension, but it happens as the trail arm does its motion.

From this here.

Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

As my trail arm starts to fold, the weight of the club starts to get back on my trail wrist.

That's when it changes.

Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

And then as soon as that starts to fold, that's what kind of Chuckie used to even talk about it.

You know, that coin kind of flipping over the shoulder.

So the weight of the club starts to get there and starts to set back on the trail wrist right there.

That's what changes your wrist angles because they work counter to each other.

Would you say that goat coat is actually a pull from the left weight transfer while also throwing from the right, just trying to get my sequence right?

It's both.

Same thing I said earlier about the moving components in the swing.

You can't put everything into a vacuum so much.

The trail side is driving.

That doesn't mean that these muscles on this side aren't doing anything.

They're having to react.

They're having to do something.

So as I'm moving down and go and I'm driving with my trail, my trail hip, trail sides, making all this motion happen, My abductor is still engaging to help pull a little bit of my weight over here and help me start moving into this correct post-up position.

As I kind of get into that pirouette spot.

Now, in a lead side swing, I'm not doing crap from this side in my transition.

I'm doing all of that.

with my lead leg pull.

But as I do that, that doesn't mean that my trail adductor isn't firing to keep me from pushing from this side too much.

I think one of the big things is you have to let your lead side react to this.

So as I'm getting here and I'm getting pressure, and just as a side note, Chuck's got this three-part series that's coming out on this soon.

All right, all on this left side stuff with the right side to kind of clear up this confusion.

Um, so as I'm starting to get into this position, that as I start to drive my trail, my lead, I can feel it right here, my lead is reacting to that motion.

All right, doesn't mean this side isn't doing anything, doesn't mean you may not need to train.

Feeling your adductors right here, but the whole goal is to kind of get it to where your trail side is controlling here, your trail side is controlling here.

But my legs already very well trained from lead side, but I can still feel how my adductors are firing right there.

And if I was lead side, I ain't doing crap with this.

I mean, this thing as soon as I get here is literally dropping.

Anchor should see.

I knew this was going to happen is from the question I said earlier.

Should by body.

Slow down through the hitting area to allow my hands to catch up and then release, then continue on the follow through and finish.

I can't remember where I saw it, Instagram, but I know Chuck posted that you continue to rotate through, but if I don't slow down, I'm hitting block shots to the right.

That's because you're still pushing through the shot.

That's not what Chuck said, all right?

I'm not yelling at you.

He didn't say continue to push through the shot.

What he said on the Instagram video and what he said in the 160-yard speed sequence swing is that the core continues to go through.

If my core continues to go through and driving this way, well, how come Chuck's foot and Tiger's foot and Royer's foot and my foot, they're still dragging like this?

Because I'm creating counter torque this way.

What he's saying is that as you're going this way, not that you continually push, push with this side through.

It's that if we're maintaining this position right here, my core is continuing to go through.

Okay.

My core is continuing to rotate through.

Not that I'm pushing and driving and still trying to get more power.

I'm trying to keep my core whipping around as I'm slamming on the brakes into the snap.

So more than likely, because I've seen this.

I want to make sure.

Yeah.

I'm hitting block shots to the right.

You're turning into Justin Thomas.

Still don't know why the hell he's on the Ryder Cup.

because you're pushing.

Okay.

And what I mean by that is you're getting here and you're like, okay, Chuck says trail side drive, keep going.

And so you're getting down here, you're starting to drive, but then you're still driving.

And so if you keep driving everything through the shot, the club face not only stays under, but it stays wide open, has no chance to get there.

All right.

So as I'm going this way, I'm here.

My core is still going to be pivoting through, but I'm not still driving through.

Like I'm not trying to, oh, let's get my foot even more up off the ground as I do this.

It's just my core going through this way.

I'm still slamming on the brakes, dropping anchor, whatever you want to call it, so I can get the club to snap.

So you're probably still pushing through too much.

It's just the core has to keep clearing to keep this elbow down the target line before it's time for this club to snap.

Damn you, club.

Trying to steal my thunder by falling in the back room.

Is the anti-over-the-top drill, anti-over -the-top drill, DEP, okay, drop, extend, pivot, in many ways similar to throwing the club from the top?

That's the exact.

Can those two things be combined in a meaningful way?

It's the same thing.

If you watch the Instagram video or you watch the driver video that Chuck was talking about, he was saying like, hey, when he gets up here towards the top, he's throwing it this way.

The drop, extend, and pivot, that is how you would throw it.

It's the same thing.

It's just players tend to get up here and spin as they throw versus throw it.

And now their core goes.

Now, you can see right here.

I look at, I'm literally like, right now, I'm throwing it at the camera, all right, so I'm getting up here towards the top and I'm throwing it at the camera.

As I pivot, what position am I in?

I'm going to throw it at this mirror.

I'm up here at the top, I'm throwing it at this mirror and now I'm going to pivot hard.

Where am I?

So, it's the same thing, but for players that are so used to spinning from the top, pronating too soon, getting into internal rotation, coming over the top.

Letting your arms kind of relax and getting the feeling of them dropping, extending, and then pivoting is a really good way to get them to start to feel the proper kind of throwing motion.

Because that's what the arm does, and when you throw a ball, your arm just doesn't stay here like this.

And then at the end, you're like, Your arm goes through this whole motions, where it starts to extend and go like that.

And golfers tend to have the feeling that they got to be like this the whole time.

All right.

No.

If my arm's here at setup, at some point in time, it's got to get back to this.

Unless when I get to the golf ball, I'm going to hit it like this.

All right.

So I'm going to be like this.

So this throwing motion.

It's the same thing.

It's just really sped up.

It's just speeding it up.

Let's see.

I can answer this in a minute.

Where will the ball usually go when hit with the toe and the heel of the club face and why?

Well, I don't want to get crazy into gear effect and all that, so I'll just keep this pretty simple.

If you hit the ball off the heel because of gear effect, the off-center strike, it's going to put side spin on it.

The heel strike is going to tend to a right -hand golfer create a fade.

When you tend to hit the off-center strike of hitting the heel, it's going to tend to create the side spin to create a little bit more of a fade.

The toe is going to tend to create a little bit more of a draw.

You've probably heard of somebody saying a toe draw.

Because of the off-center hit on the toe, the club Kind of technically still stays open.

But as the toe comes into here with the toe trying to rotate around the heel, that's why you can kind of hit those toe slappers.

So the heel tends to be more of a fade.

The toe tends to be more of a draw.

That's why, especially when drivers started getting bigger, players were really screwed up because a lot of players for a lot of time just try to hit it out on the toe.

All right.

And then it's like, oh, let me get a couple extra yards by trying to hit a little bit of toe draw out there.

But then when the driver head started to get bigger, the power spot essentially might not have been out a little bit more towards the toe.

You didn't have to worry about that anymore.

Like the Callaway thing is like the FT5.

Like the FT5, the actual power spot on that club, this is an old exotic CB4.

But the actual power spot on that was like right here.

It was like halfway between the center and the heel, like right in the middle, just up right here.

All right.

But that was the ideal point for you to, you know, hit that shot.

So heels tend to fade, toes tend to draw.

All right.

Simple as that.

We can get into all the science of it if you want.

Repose the question and say, Craig, I don't want all the science behind it.

We'll talk about the science.

Two things, all right?

Number one, we've got five minutes left, so I'm going to open it up to the forum, and I appreciate everybody for stopping by tonight.

Hopefully you learned something.

I don't know.

I learn something every time I do this.

I want to say to Nick, subscriber in the UK, Customer service sent this over the questions.

Sorry, I didn't get to it.

You will be first up next time, all right?

So I got an email, like, right before this started, that somebody sent the questions in the customer service.

Instead of putting on the community, Nick, you know better than that if you put them on the community.

I'd have had them tonight, but I will put you on the list first next time, so I hope you enjoy the replay.

I did not forget about you, you will just be in the next one.

But with that being said, thank you everybody for joining.

Yeah, I might, you know, the next couple ones as we're getting in the winter and I want people to start getting their swings in the off season, might open up a little bit more spots in my unlimited stuff of that nature, because a lot of people like to do their swing in the off season, understandably.

So we'll have some promos and stuff coming out soon, probably in the next webinar.

And I appreciate you spending your night, spending your evening with me or spending your morning with me, wherever you are.

It's evening here, eight o'clock.

So with that being said, thank you.

I appreciate it.

For those of you who don't want to stick around, ask a couple questions, I will be here.

Hopefully you learned something.

I learned something.

I learned not to try to fully rotate.

My shoulder is killing me now.

I know that I had a question back by the socks.

Joe.

I'm having a problem supinating the club at the top of the swing and getting the club squared up.

I feel like the club will be backwards and then I use my shoulders to square the club.

All right.

And now I'm going to scroll all the way.

Okay.

Okay.

So Joe, put it right there.

So if you've posted a question, if you can just copy your things and put it back on the board right now.

All right.

So I can start right here and I can just watch it in a scroll so I don't get all discombobulated.

So Joe.

So your problem, you don't want to try to square up the club with your shoulders.

Period.

Flat out.

Your problem is when you're supinating.

If you're supinating correctly, what's the trail wrist doing?

Trail wrist is going back on itself.

What is extension doing to the club face?

Look at my club face right now.

What is extension?

If I go into flexion, what is that doing?

It's opening it.

If I go into extension, it's closing it.

So if you're supinating and you're opening it, okay, you're not doing it right because supination doesn't open the club face.

So if I'm getting up here and I'm supinating properly, getting back into the extension right here is actually keeping my club face square.

That's why I don't have to make this rotate.

So what I would do is the same thing I showed earlier.

Get right here and then make a supination motion, all right?

And then do the same thing.

And then see how, like, Oh, okay, well, if I let this club kind of spin in the circle.

With the supination, it goes into extension, then it starts to get an ulnar deviation, then it starts to pronate.

I don't have to do a whole lot to get that club square.

So, more than likely, as you're doing this, you're either changing your shoulder plane, changing your spine angle.

Or when you're trying to supinate, you might actually be opening up the club, you might actually be going into flexion.

I've seen this too, where players are getting cupped as they're trying to supinate, they're getting here, And they're cupping their wrist, this one.

And they're like, oh, the club face is wide open.

Well, watch what happens if I change my wrist positions.

See the difference?

So now, I mean, think about it.

The club's actually closed right now.

I don't have to do anything to square it up.

Mitchell, much appreciated.

Jack, much appreciated.

Ronald, as always.

Pleasure.

John, my question is, how do I bring my trajectory down?

With the Irons for windy days, well, there's a couple different things.

I mean, the first thing is is one you got to delete.

Spin, all right, so when you're playing in windy conditions, spin is your enemy.

The more spin you put on it, the more it's getting up in the air, fluttering around all over the place, all right.

So how are we going to take spin off of it?

That's essentially what you're looking for now.

You can change clubs, you can choke down, Choking down on the club, changing clubs, all that, that helps.

You can move it back slightly.

I'm not a big proponent unless it's like a 40-mile -an-hour gust, but I'm not that big a proponent of changing my ball angle that much.

How would I kind of extend the play on this?

So what I'm not trying to do is have this big old post up because I'm not going for power right now.

I'm kind of going for less spin.

So I don't want to get down here.

have this big old post up in this big old snap because I don't want a whole lot of spin.

So what I'm doing down here is I'm deleting, deleting a little bit of my post and I'm focusing on a little bit more of my lateral motion.

So for me, when I'm trying to take that, I start to feel a little bit more kind of like the wet shot where I'm focusing more on my lateral, my hip, my sternum, all getting out ahead of the ball because the more I move laterally through the shot like this right here, the more I'm extending the play of keeping my club de-lofted right here.

All right.

The more I start getting into my post, the more this guy wants to release and the more I want to add spin to it.

So just know that you're trying to take off spin.

You can take one club more, choke down on it.

You can move the ball slightly back.

But the big thing is, is you're trying to stay out ahead of the ball because you're trying to extend the play.

Which is keeping the club de-lofted so that you can delete the spin off the shot because you don't want this club to come in here.

This big post up, big release and snap and create a lot of spin, you're trying to take that spin off.

Chris, how high should the hands be at the top of the back soon?

However high you want them, John makes perfect sense.

thank you.

appreciate that, however how you want them, Chris.

So elevation, even in goat swing, is still a variable.

All right.

Most of the goats, you take Tiger, Chuck.

Most of the goats shoot for the elevation kind of being just above the sternum area right here.

All right.

So if we're thinking about this from kind of a 2D point right here, right around in this area where my arm's kind of parallel to the ground right here, that's where most of the goats kind of are.

They're right there with their arm parallel to the ground.

That's kind of the hand height that they are.

You can get a little bit more if you want.

You can have a little bit less if you want.

Some players can't get that much higher.

Visibility, life.

But most of them kind of shoot for the elevation just right or above the sternum right here.

But if you're here or if you're here, there's pros and cons to both.

So it doesn't matter which.

But there's pros and cons to both.

I don't care which, but most of them are about right here.

Where your arms kind of right here at the start of.

And so you can see with my flexion, these are where my hands are right now.

And then the real goats, unlike the non-goat right here, even though I probably should be in a pasture.

You know, they're like this at that same position, but that's that's a little work for, uh, the unhealthy kid, Kevin, I had the pleasure of an in-person lesson with Chuck a couple weeks ago at his tiny mountain shack in Colorado.

Yeah, he's got to do something about that.

It is definitely too small.

That's the problem with his location.

It's too small.

He had me stretching the fascia, keeping it stretched and releasing like you showed earlier in the session.

Cool.

So at least I'm staying on message.

Sometimes I go off kilter.

He also had me releasing at my right hip.

Pocket or right pocket?

So far, my ball flight is high and I feel like I'm losing some distance.

Well, maybe you are releasing it a little bit too soon.

I mean, this is, this is why there's still golf instructors.

I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've yelled at Chuck about his own golf swing.

Especially like, even when we're developing cocoa and all these things, I've constantly yelled at Chuck in clinics.

I'm like, when we're back with lead side, I'd be like, Chuck, you're pushing off your right foot like, you're better than that.

You literally just got done yelling at people, charging them $100 for lifting their right foot, and you're doing the same problem.

That's why we still have jobs.

I don't know if I still have a job for these sessions, but you may have gone a little bit to the other end of the spectrum.

So thinking about what we were talking about earlier, Kevin, with getting the fascia stretch, And then as you get your, you know, Chuck talks about it, as in like this.

So if we get up here, get our faster stretch and we have that feeling where this is coming down into here.

What you may be doing is exactly what I was talking about earlier.

You may need to be getting this core driving through a little bit more because you may be stopping early, thinking it's powerful right here and releasing this early, which is creating a little bit higher ball flight.

You may need to focus on not quitting that core as you're releasing it at that right pocket, because that's what it sounds like to me.

If it's high and you're losing distance, you're probably releasing it early.

So you're probably getting that big stretch and you're getting here and you're firing it too soon, you're not finishing the race.

There was a Instagram video and I use it on like my Swing reviews, too, where Chuck's doing, you know, hitting one -handed, supinated shots.

And he gets here and he starts to move into it.

And you can see how he really gets all the way like this into it, hitting, you know, trail arm only shots.

But what you might be doing is you're getting the stretch and getting here, and then you're quitting it because you're trying to get that speed, but you're doing it too soon.

Instead of finishing the race with your core, and you're not getting the snap out of it.

If you're going to get the snap, you can't quit early, right?

That's why the core has to keep coming through if you're going to get it snapped.

You know where to find me.

You know where to find Chuck now, but he's at elevation, all right?

He's got high ground.

That's what I always say.

He's got high ground, so just be careful.

Community, swing reviews, forum.

If you've got a question, if you're struggling with it, just send me a video.

Say, hey, Kevin.

Yeah, you keep it going.

Chris, helpful?

No problem, Charles.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Let's see.

Mark, favorite Mountain Dew.

diet.

Original diet.

All right.

Yeah, but I don't have to get crazy and all that stuff.

Just OG diet formula.

All right.

Even regular Mountain Dew has got too much sugar in it for me.

It always has been.

It's regular diet Mountain Dew.

All right.

I don't get into the Baja Blast and the high voltage and all that.

Just give me the OG.

Now, it's kind of tough being where I live in Atlanta because I feel like I'm a traitor to my city because, you know, it's not a Coke product.

But Mellow Yellow didn't come out with anything for a long time.

They didn't come out with good diet Mellow Yellow.

I would have gone that route.

So I think that's Coke's fault.

And most people in Atlanta look at this and they see Georgia and then they see Patriots and they're like, Craig, you can't be.

I know.

I get it.

Roy, I'm a lefty and make no excuses for it.

Occasionally, my trail shoulder moves forward in my downswing, causing an in to out.

My trail shoulder.

OK, now I'm really confused.

All right.

So we're going lefty.

All right.

My trail shoulder moves forward in my downswing, causing an in-to-outswing, but that should be out-to-in.

What causes my trail shoulder to move forward?

Okay, I should have just read one more line.

So what causes that?

Well, one, you're trying to power it from your shoulder.

So you're trying to get the power by driving this shoulder.

So there's kind of two things that I would look at.

First, make sure that you are moving your hips.

This is really weird seeing myself on camera lefty.

First, you've got to make sure that you're moving laterally enough this way.

Because just as I was saying earlier, it's going to be really hard to come over the top if your spine's back this way.

So you're losing your spine more than likely because this isn't moving this way.

So I would check to make sure that you're moving laterally enough with your lower half towards the target and transition.

And then I would practice that kind of scap drop.

Feel like your scap drops down into your spine.

If you move laterally and your scap drops, there's no way I could come over the top from here.

And I might switch to left-handed.

Actually, pretty good.

It's better than my right-handed swing.

All right.

Kevin will check it out.

Cool.

Mark, great job.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

And stop by.

I hadn't seen you in a while.

All right?

You got to have something to yell at me about.

How often do you get loft adjustments on your club since you're hitting indoors or on mats?

I never play golf, Joe.

I'm not the person to ask that.

But I can say when I was playing golf, especially if I did a lot of mat work, I mean, I obviously didn't really have to do a whole bunch to get my lofts checked.

But every couple months, because if you're doing a lot off of mats and turfs, you've got concrete underneath it, right?

Unless you're picking the ball every single time.

I mean, even going to your PGA Tour Superstore, they're not going to charge you an arm, and I'd like to check some lies and lofts.

Or you can just buy a lying loft machine.

But every couple months, I mean.

Or like seasons, like after your winter, fall, check them.

After your spring, summer, check them.

But I wouldn't go, this is me, I wouldn't go at least one cycle, one year, without checking them if I do a lot of indoor hitting.

Very helpful, Tom.

It's very helpful to watch you move through the Swing ETC.

It gives me a better framework.

Cool.

And your move's looking great too, bud.

You were right there on the precipice of having that, okay?

Eric Landry, steep swing or shallow?

Me or elaborate a little bit?

Anthony, switch your hands if you go left.

No, no, I'm going cross-handed.

Heck no.

100% going cross-handed.

More powerful, man.

I got to do less work.

Stanley, thanks, Craig.

That lefty question reminded me to check my scap drop.

Cool.

You just need to get your tush line, and I'll stop yelling at you.

Joe, appreciate it.

Roy, how much is too much lateral shift?

So taking specialty shots out of the equation, all right?

So the goal is you want your hip stacked over your ankle right here.

You don't want your hip to start breaking this.

So as you start to move down into the downswing, I'm still going with the lefty.

All right.

So as you start to move down into this position, you're going to shift a good six to eight inches.

All right.

You've got a good six to eight inches right here, but you don't want your hip to start getting out this way because then you're going to blow out your hip.

And then you're going to bring Craig that you have to get a new hip.

I'm going to say, no, I told you, don't push your hip outside your knee right here.

You're going to blow it out.

Which is preferable, shallow or steep?

Ooh, kind of depends.

I mean, everybody really wants a shallow strike.

I mean, I prefer a shallow strike.

Chuck is more on top of playing, so he almost looks like he's coming over the top, even though he's not.

I personally, I prefer a fade, so I don't like being super shallow.

I don't like it because I hit the ball pretty much straight.

I prefer going a little bit to the right.

So I, for me, I like kind of being on top of the plane, kind of a little bit more zeroed out.

But they're, they're pros and cons to everything.

I mean, if I'm going to air and you air a couple degrees under plane right here, it's going to be easy to hit little baby draws all day long.

So I think it's a personal preference.

I mean, I prefer being zeroed out and, you know, moving it this way.

You know, talk to a fade yellow the hook type thing, Steve, what can be causing most of my misses from driver to wedges to the left?

What could be causing most of my misses from drivers to wedges to the left?

Well, if the ball is going left, the club face is closed.

So what's causing you to be closed?

You're either A, releasing it too soon, B, quitting your turn, which is forcing you to release it too soon, or C, all of the above.

You start to rotate too soon.

getting yourself steep, and you're manufacturing the release, which is now going to be the pull left.

So you're releasing early.

So the big thing is you have to figure out what component is it.

Is it my weight?

Is it my hip?

Is it my shoulder?

Is it my hands?

What's causing this club face to close too soon?

So you kind of have to go through that.

And you know I'll help you with that if you need it.

John, best way to work on lag.

Why do you need lag?

Are you lead side or trail side?

Because you don't want a whole bunch of lag in the trail side.

So the best way to work on lag is supination.

Remember, if I supinate correctly, it's going to help me maintain the proper owner deviation.

So when you're starting to come down, remember lag is a byproduct of what?

What is lag a byproduct of?

I'm going this way and now I start going this way.

So lag Is because I'm going this way and I start going this way.

So the change of direction is what creates lag.

So if you don't have good lag, you need to start looking at your change of direction You may not be shifting to this side soon enough.

We're getting to that side, but it's the It's the change of direction.

That's more than likely what's killing your lag Mark, why do we keep losing Ryder Cups?

Very simple.

Wrong players.

Very simple.

I mean, I'm not going, you know, Anthony says because they got paid, no pride for the country.

I think some of them have pride for the country.

I know a few of them.

But for me, it's pretty simple.

What do you see?

chemistry-wise on both sides.

Everybody in the USA is an individual.

Europe plays as a team.

Team USA needs more drinkers.

I mean, if you want me to give you the real thing, it's because they need more drinkers.

All right?

My bar buddies and all that?

My bar buddies and all that?

We would die for each other from back in the day.

They need.

These guys don't go out and have a beer together.

These guys don't call each other up and say, hey, how's the weather?

You want to go play a quick night?

The European guys are like, hey, let's go have a couple pints of Guinness.

It's okay if I put on a pound or two.

I'm not going to lose 10 yards of distance.

But in my opinion, that's the problem.

They don't have any drinkers.

It's not a team.

That's the problem.

And I think, like, coaching-wise, Keegan's way too close with the players.

Like, you need an old, nasty Riley vet that's going to be like, look, not me, but I've won a lot of majors, or I've done this, or I've done, like, you don't have to tell me what.

Like, obviously, everybody keeps saying Tiger right now.

I don't think Tiger's the answer.

But if Tiger walks in a room, and says like, hey, do this to a Ryder Cup person that's never won a major.

Dude, I've won 15 majors.

I kind of know what I'm doing.

But they need a Nick Saban.

They need somebody in the room that says, you ain't as good as you think you are.

You might be as good individually, which is why we do okay in singles, but you ain't a team.

You don't know how to play together.

There's no meshing.

I've won a lot of two-mans before.

Four-mans and actually five-mans.

But everybody that I played with, it wasn't because they were the best golfer or anything like that.

We were a unit, all right?

But we're not a team.

That's the problem.

And to get ourselves to be a team, we need Herb Brooks, Nick Saban.

Tiger's not the answer.

They need somebody to come up.

You need a father figure.

You need somebody to come up there and be like, you guys suck.

And I'm going to whoop you on the behind.

Like there is none of that.

So what?

But the Europeans think about it.

Think about every time they win.

Think about it.

They all are.

They're one.

We haven't been one for a long time.

Even just look in this country right now.

Even people that aren't golfers.

We're more invited than ever.

So that's the problem.

All right.

That'll fix it.

I promise you.

I'm not saying I should be the next captain, but it'll fix it.

Let's see.

I'll do two more, and then I'm going to have a beverage myself.

Gerald, wait.

You said we don't want a lot of lag of trail sighted.

Well, you don't need a big, massive downcock.

Pushing quote unquote.

For a lot of power lag, a big down cock and a lot of lag is preferable.

So you have a lot of leverage to swing when you use your hips in a trail side swing, you still have lag.

But you don't need to get up here and bounce the club off your shoulder with angle, because you can add more rotational force for your power, so you need lag.

But you don't need to be creating these, you know, 90 degree ain't?

Sergio angles on the downswing.

Because you're going to have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it.

Do you want to get that little bit of lag and you want to start getting rid of it?

It's kind of like Kevin talking about earlier.

Stretching the fast and feeling like he was releasing at his right pocket.

It's because you're trying to throw that.

If you're throwing it correctly, you can't throw away your lag too soon.

But you don't need this big, nasty, gnarly downcock like you do with lead side.

One more.

Mark, love those answers.

I know we've got to come down to where you live.

We've got to get them.

We don't have no boozers.

We don't have any fighters.

We just don't have it.

I mean, these guys, they have a bad round, and it's like, okay, well, I'm going to go to the gym for 45 minutes, and I'm going to talk to my sports psychologist, and then I'm going to do this, and then I'm going to do that.

When's the last time they've had a bad round and said, like, hey, you know what?

Or you're playing with your playing competitor.

Hey, let's go to the 19th hole and have a beer and let's talk about it.

Because you're swinging great, dude.

You're just getting in your own way.

Or, hey, let's go talk about your putting.

I noticed something in your putting today that I think can kind of get you over that hump.

There's no team.

It's all I.

It's all I.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how lightly do you hold the golf club?

In a trail side pattern, I'd say I'm an eight, but I'm a lead side swinger, so I hold it at about a three relative to my feel.

Plenty of booze in the keys.

I know.

That's why I was saying that.

My wife's going to kill me if I don't get off this thing.

When asked why I was so emotional after winning singles mass, Bryce immediately, because I love my country 100%.

I'm not doubting they don't love their country.

It's a different style of golf.

Why do you think we always dominate in singles?

Think about it.

Think of Brookline.

Why are we always dominating singles?

Because it's not like our players are bad, but that's how they're trained every single day.

Play for me, play for me, play for me.

But team, foursomes, alternate shot, all of that is a completely different animal.

It's like.

I mean, this is behind the scenes.

It's like arguments behind the scenes about certain balls to be played.

Just give me the damn golf ball.

I'll play whatever you're playing.

I don't care.

There's not that much difference.

There is no team.

There is no we.

I don't know.

I think it's a tough, simple fix, but they need an actual coach in there.

Somebody that's actually coached a team, I think that would be a really big thing.

They have to.

It's never going to get any better.

We've got to hang on until singles.

All of my golf life, family, you name it, it's got to be something greater than me.

Has to be.

Has to be something greater than me.

And all these guys put me first.

So I got to do it.

It's not how it works.

Phil Jackson.

I don't know if the triangle offense is what we need.

But it's the same premise.

It's the same premise.

Pat Riley.

See, maybe Pat.

Maybe Pat.

Maybe Pat.

Not James Franklin.

Big time thing.

I know there's probably Penn Staters out there.

I'm not picking on y'all.

One of my college roommates from just outside, he was down here on this weekend, this past weekend for a wedding.

He's just like, oh, God, here we go again.

Another one.

I would do it.

I'd whip him into shape.

I'll tell you that.

So anyways, I don't want to get a divorce because my wife is going to be like, you've been working 14 hours a day.

So thank you again.

I hope I answered everything.

If you have questions, go to the community page.

Put in the question.

I will answer it.

But if there's no questions, there's no need for Craig.

So it's kind of double fold.

It gives me a reason to exist.

You guys.

You all have a good evening.

Have one for Maybe send in something to the Ryder Cup people.

I got nothing to do in two years.